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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast as misplaced It's mirth. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of them Be Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas. I'm joined from a virtual

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Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Was

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Speaker 1: it a merk? Said I can almost you didn't hear it?

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Speaker 1: Said they've misplaced their mirth like you guys anymore? That's

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Speaker 1: very different. Yeah, I don't know where you got Merkin.

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Speaker 1: And for listeners out there, if you don't know what

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Speaker 1: that is, just google it. Oh you don't know. You

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Speaker 1: don't know how I got Mrkin out of mirth. It's

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Speaker 1: not that far off. It's but American is according to

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Speaker 1: Google search, and artificial covering of hair for the nether regions.

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Speaker 1: It's used a lot in show business production and for

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Speaker 1: certain scenes. And uh and that's what I thought the

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Speaker 1: bit was. So we are flying here on a Wednesday

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Speaker 1: hump day. You know that's not true, Dan, No, he

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Speaker 1: Dan keeps his you know, right by the desk. That

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Speaker 1: was a real lot peek behind the Hollywood curtains right there, Dan,

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Speaker 1: for like a real stage hand. This is this is

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Speaker 1: your wife. Being in the BIS really paid off everywhere

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Speaker 1: you go in my house. You open up any draw

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Speaker 1: you will find a market that is just that's just

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Speaker 1: what when you live in Los Angeles and you have

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Speaker 1: a spouse that works in the entertainment business, merkins are

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Speaker 1: literally everywhere you look. Dan, I was at your house

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Speaker 1: last night for Emily's birthday, and actually I was playing

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Speaker 1: with the boys and I was like, oh, let's get

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Speaker 1: a board game. And we opened up the drawer and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, what is that. And

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Speaker 1: you're four year old was like, oh, that's daddy's merkin.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, it's normal to them. Greg

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Speaker 1: and I obviously not invited to Emily's birthdays. A birthday.

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Speaker 1: My gift to my wife for her birth day, for

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Speaker 1: her twenty ninth birthday, we'll call it that. Um was

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Speaker 1: Erica came by for a visit, came by the babysit.

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Speaker 1: I gotta find out where you ate some some dinner

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Speaker 1: down there. We went to Mercado. What a place, great

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Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant. All right, we're in the weeds right off

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Speaker 1: the bat Big Show Wednesday show that I mentioned, It's

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Speaker 1: hump Day, merking Day, and hump Day, the rare Merkan

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Speaker 1: hump Day and we have a new guest that's coming

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Speaker 1: on a little bit later, um, a new member of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network family, Cameron Wolf, who is a reporter

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Speaker 1: for US and he does a lot of work down

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Speaker 1: in Miami with the Dolphins, which is good because the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are an interesting team at this moment in time.

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Speaker 1: He also has been over in Panthers camp. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Cam on. I don't know if it's Cam acceptable,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna yeah. I mean, I've heard him referred to

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Speaker 1: as Cam like on another and also another Sea Wolf

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Speaker 1: with the same spelling of the last name, Colleen is

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Speaker 1: Colleen is a class act all the way. But you

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Speaker 1: you have to wonder if it annoys her just a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I call her celebrating it, like she was

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Speaker 1: saying that it added to the Sea Wolves that she

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Speaker 1: apparently knows other Sea Wolves. Maybe not totally honest, Be

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Speaker 1: totally markcause I know your answer, Greg, you be totally honest.

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Speaker 1: If a Gary Rosenthal started working at NFL Network, would

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Speaker 1: you be not mad or even annoyed, but just a

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Speaker 1: little bit like, Oh, I wish he had a different

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Speaker 1: name if it was Gary. I want all the Gary's

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Speaker 1: I can in my life, so I would be g

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Speaker 1: I do like being confused for Ken Rosenthal occasionally on

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. You know another domin diminutive man in sports

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Speaker 1: media who's done very well. You know, baseball man. You're

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Speaker 1: basically Ken without the bow tie. That's how I always

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Speaker 1: That's how I know which one is which, without the

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Speaker 1: without bank account, I think maybe the airtime to bank account. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coming on out today's show, I mentioned cam Wolfe. Also, yep,

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Speaker 1: it's back. I gotta tell you our editor Ali, we

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Speaker 1: had a phone call the other day. I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: load management, ever you here of it. He had me

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Speaker 1: write a Hard Knocks preview. He had me drop an

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Speaker 1: entire Power rankings column. Uh. And last night I'm up

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Speaker 1: until one o'clock in the morning writing the Hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: save it Mark eight. Sorry Boux do not um. But

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Speaker 1: before that, we love doing it. Greg. You know, this

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Speaker 1: and share some of our own analysis. It was time

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Speaker 1: it going. What are you hearing? Greg here to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Where should I start? Let's let's go with the Ravens camp.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Ravens are quietly having an annoying

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Speaker 1: And you just like look at all the different little pieces.

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Speaker 1: he's just coming back to practice. People forget you know,

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Speaker 1: And you know what, It's funny because doing the power

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Speaker 1: of a hiccup in their season preparation. Anything calling it

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Speaker 1: not typical for the Ravens. But Jimmy Smith is another

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Speaker 1: give us a whisper. I've been focusing on rams camp

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Speaker 1: But if you go back and look at what Darryl

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Speaker 1: shim m mmcveigh has said, we're riding with these guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there's some sort of hiccup, yes, funk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Mark loves the the scrappy white

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Speaker 1: Laffrey was too good. He was the first round pick

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Speaker 1: do you have to have a cool name like Zack Zenter, Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's his name? Jake Funk, Toby Gerhardt, But that was

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Speaker 1: that I just think it's almost undersold how many weapons

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Speaker 1: But if he's their number four receiver and Tyler Higbee

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Speaker 1: that is a loaded group. I'm not worried about their

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Speaker 1: the Beat reporters saying that number five overall picked Jamar

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Speaker 1: as advertised, everything changes. Marvin Jones D J. Chark. I

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Speaker 1: know he's going through something right now. Leaviscus Nult who

427
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be great. Those are solid white outs,

428
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: better than some of the wide out rooms around the league.

429
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: James Robinson obviously last year rookie Travis E. T N

430
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: who has been described as you know, moving all over

431
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: the field and totally uncoverable as a running back, catching

432
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: catching passes out of the backfield. I think they're gonna

433
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: be a run heavy one of the remost run heavy

434
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Speaker 1: teams in the league. And I kind of just can't

435
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,239
Speaker 1: wait to see it because it's the Urban Meyer factor too.

436
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: I these things sometimes they work out, sometimes they're total disasters.

437
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: If you're a college coach that figures out I don't

438
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: want to do this NFL thing. But he has said

439
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: over and over this is not a four year rebuilding plan.

440
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: We are here to win right now and inside that division.

441
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're a playoff team at all.

442
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: There are a lot of issues and some weaknesses there,

443
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Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised to see them go

444
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: from one win to like seven or eight. I really

445
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: have a feeling that they're gonna be one of the

446
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: bigger stories of the year. Well, while the as the

447
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: Texas have devolved into force and the Colts having all

448
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: their issues of course um, and even the Titans now

449
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: adjusting to life without their play caller, Um, the AFC

450
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: South really needed some juice. And yeah, I think that

451
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: that's what Trevor Lawrence and Urban Meyer provide. I I

452
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: totally I could see that. I mean, it really does.

453
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: A lot of it goes back to Lawrence. Not to

454
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 1: oversimplify it, but if he is as special as people say, um,

455
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: they are going to make a leap. And they lost

456
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: fifteen straight games to end the last season and they

457
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: went in the tank. Um, so it's gonna be hard

458
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: not to be better. But how much better will be

459
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: interesting to say. First season they went they became a

460
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: playoff team after being a complete disaster the year before.

461
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: It's not impossible. There's a lot of money in the

462
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know if it's a great offensive line.

463
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's great. They drafted Walker Little, who's

464
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: my son's new favorite player, just like saw his name

465
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: on the draft and has been asking about him. I'm like, yeah,

466
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: and I and his report. They look a good uh

467
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Speaker 1: good in Jaguars camp over there. But I do wonder

468
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Speaker 1: about like the urban Meyer ringing some of the college

469
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: stuff to him. I'm fascinated by this thing he's been

470
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: doing in practice where it's like they have this winners

471
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: and losers session and like they have an announcement it's

472
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: like Robinson versus Jack, and then like that, you know,

473
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: they have the matchup and they declare a winner and

474
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: a loser after each one, and they keep they keep

475
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Speaker 1: track of it, and urban Meyer was like, well, this

476
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: is too important. These are like people's livelihoods. I want

477
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Speaker 1: to keep track and like that. He's saying that the

478
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Speaker 1: winds and losses metric as you know, as he was

479
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: referring to the data will inform him in terms of

480
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Speaker 1: like who makes the team and the depth charts and

481
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Speaker 1: all this, and it's like it's a big raw rack

482
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Speaker 1: college thing. Uh. Every day at Jaguars camp makes it

483
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: sounds like it'd be fun camp to go to and watch,

484
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: at least per listen. I'm not going to panic about

485
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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. I have a different outlook on the Jets

486
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situation that I've had in the past, certainly different

487
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: than Sam Sam Donald, who I was all in and

488
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: on and truly believed in and it didn't work out.

489
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know about Wilson. We'll see. Let's say I've

490
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: always been kind of a I wouldn't say on the

491
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: fence about Zach Wilson, but it just felt like a

492
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: gamble when it happened. And Um, maybe he'll turn into

493
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: a superstar and be the Mormon Mahomes, but I'm fully

494
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: prepared put it that way for this to go the

495
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: other direction. With that in mind, Um, he has not

496
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: played well in recent practices. And it started. It started

497
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: with the Green and White scrimmage, which they hold every year.

498
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Speaker 1: Well they didn't last year, But last year didn't happen,

499
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: you hear me. It never happened, um where they have

500
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Speaker 1: twenty thou people in MetLife Stadium. And Wilson struggled mightily

501
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: through that scrimmage eleven and twelve yards two picks. And

502
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: then he took those struggles into practice. Um, And as

503
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: the week went on, and he's been having some issues

504
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of this ties back to where they're

505
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: at in the the install of the offense, which they

506
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: are completing now. And once they started live play calling

507
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: in the seventh practice, Wilson went from being this really

508
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: bright spot in camp to all of suddenly struggling. And

509
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: my overall takeaway, and this is maybe a message to

510
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: fellow Jets fans that are listening right now, is like,

511
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: just chill out, don't freak out. This doesn't mean that

512
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: Wilson is a bust um, but it does remind you

513
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: also that this is going There's gonna be a learning

514
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: curve here. Hopefully there's more highs than lows. But the

515
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: idea that Zach Wilson at twenty two years old, coming

516
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: out of that program at b y U, against that

517
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: level of competition, was ever gonna step right in and

518
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: be a dominant force in the NFL. There's gonna be

519
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: some really bad days and I'm prepared for that, and

520
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: the hope is is that there will be good days

521
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: as well. So once he gets more comfortable, the install

522
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: is complete, he gets more into the vibe of things.

523
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he's making progress heading into week one. My concern

524
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Speaker 1: here is if he if he kind of falls into

525
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: some mental funk here in addition to the physical, and

526
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to overthink the Jets don't have a plan

527
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: B here, and he could potentially go into Week one

528
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: uh in a not a great place mentally and preparation

529
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Speaker 1: while and then things can snowball, and you know the

530
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: New York media is gonna be all over that if

531
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: that happens. So keep an eye on the situation. Hopefully

532
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: next time this week there will be reports that he's

533
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: bounced back. But this has not been a good week

534
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: for the number two overall pick. I mean we also

535
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: live in in sane times where first round quarterbacks, because

536
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: this has happened a few times, are expected to come

537
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: in and look like the world savior right away. I mean,

538
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: it just seems so natural that he'd go through some

539
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: ups and downs. It's probably a tough offense to learn,

540
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: but the Shanahan offense is also great for quarterbacks. Um

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Speaker 1: the one thing that you mentioned because this is where

542
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: you kind of lose some of these guys, and I

543
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: think it happened at Donald to some degree. I can

544
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: think of a billion Browns quarterbacks that had happened due

545
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: all around the league to where if that first season,

546
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: they don't have someone that can kind of put in

547
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: to give him a pause if he needs a week

548
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: just to regroup. If he's got to go in there,

549
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: there's good things that can happen for seventeen games, battle tested,

550
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: but also it could just shake you for for years

551
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: to come. And I like, I think this Jets regime

552
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: regime though you don't see that happening. If it were

553
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: the past one or the past I'd be concerned. And

554
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: I think that's on the quarter Like if the quarterback

555
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good pro, I think they can

556
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: shake that stuff off. Alex Smith Eli Manning two of

557
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: the worst rookie quarterbacks I've ever seen, and took it off.

558
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: I think had the careers that they were they were

559
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: destined to have. I do think Zack Wilson will be

560
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: supported by a much better offensive line, could be very good,

561
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: pretty good weapons around him, and in a potentially good defense.

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: I do look at that schedule that you're right, then

563
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: all the other rookie quarterbacks have you know someone they're

564
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Speaker 1: competing with or even in Lawrence's case, I'm not that

565
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence isn't gonna play every game, but like you know

566
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: a quality backup, and the Jets, you know James White

567
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: or James Morgan, they might want to they might want

568
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: to look into that, and they might, And they play

569
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots in the Broncos weeks two and three. So

570
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: those are two defenses that will be ready to send

571
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: a lot at Zack Wilson and see how he responds.

572
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: And I was saying that, you know, two months ago

573
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: that it felt a little off to me that they

574
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Speaker 1: have not built than any any security blanket behind him.

575
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: And but I think a big part of that goes

576
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: back to an overall organizational above the tree tops of

577
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: viewpoint to use some corpo corporal jargon, that this is

578
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: the new era of the Jets and it's gonna be

579
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: with the new head coach and the GM who's fully

580
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: in control and this young quarterback who's picked by the

581
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: people that are in the building. Um, but maybe it's

582
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: better to have a little nuanced to your organizational game plan.

583
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Speaker 1: Do you want to go around one more time? Sure?

584
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I got a lot, Um what should I go with?

585
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I think about Patrick Robinson retiring with the Saints. Um.

586
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a whisper as much

587
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: as a transaction, but I think if you want to

588
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: put the Saints changes on defense and perspective, they cut

589
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: this guy Ken Crawley a few years ago because they

590
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: were so deep at cornerback that they didn't need him anymore.

591
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: He had killed them in multiple situations in the playoffs

592
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Patrick Robinson at that time was

593
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: probably like their fourth or fifth quarterback. They came into

594
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Speaker 1: this UH treating camp with Patrick Robinson starting basically on

595
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: the outside, which he hadn't done and played a full

596
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: season and like almost nine years. Then he retires halfway

597
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: through camp. Michael Thomas isn't returning their calls on your

598
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: mata is suspended. Suddenly Crawley, the guy that was like

599
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: seventh on the depth chart just a year or two ago,

600
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: is number two. Now they're playing their their young kid Adebo.

601
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: I think at linebacker some to who we thought he

602
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: would play quarnerback. It's like, I don't know, man, there's

603
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: some weird stuff going on in New Orleans and they

604
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: are there. I know the way Mark talks about England,

605
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: you talk about New Orleans. I love the city and

606
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: I think Jamis Winston is gonna is a better player

607
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: than people get him credit for it. But I'm I

608
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: think the downside of this team is quite low. It's

609
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: last place total team in transition material. I mean, I

610
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, they've been through so much, but if they

611
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: won seven games, I wouldn't be surprised, all right. I

612
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: mean a starter retired in the middle of hamp at

613
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: their worst position too. And it's just like things like

614
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: this just weird things keep happening. I keep thinking back.

615
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: I keep thinking back to that year where Sean payton

616
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: um was suspended for the year and they had a

617
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: poster of Sean payton looming over all their practices. I

618
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I just keep thinking of that.

619
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: My favorite, It's one of my favorite stupid football things

620
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: of all time. It was like, listen, we got jobbed

621
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: and they stole our coach from us. But we know

622
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: how to straighten this out. Let's build a like a

623
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: mural of like the dictator of North Korea and put

624
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: it up in the practice with giant lettering that says

625
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: to your jobs. Right. It was foot flag that was

626
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: hanging over everything. It's not even their monica was crazy.

627
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: It really was like a North Korea thing. That's well,

628
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you can I think we could all see them. If

629
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: the wheels fall off going six and eleven this year,

630
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: does anybody here see them? Going to eleven and six.

631
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: I think if like a million things went right, Sean

632
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Payton's old some magic out over the years that are like,

633
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you can totally take it off the table,

634
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: but it seems pretty darn unlike, very unlikely. They could

635
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: have wins inflated if like, for instance, the Falcons never

636
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: got started and the Panthers and Sam Donald totally crumble

637
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: as a duo. They like winning from Caesar Ruiz, who

638
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: was their first round pick last years now at guard.

639
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: If he was good, their offensive line might be the

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Speaker 1: I would probably be might pick as the number one

641
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Speaker 1: offensive line in football. So that is something that doesn't

642
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Speaker 1: tend to get mentioned. And they are they could be

643
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Speaker 1: incredible upround and they you know, since they had a

644
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Speaker 1: huge draft class, I believe it was um. They've been

645
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, money in the bank as a double digit team,

646
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: a true playoffs, super Bowl contender, they made deep runs

647
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Speaker 1: of the plaoss that got ripped off on a Super

648
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Speaker 1: Bowl bid by that Nicole Robie coleman Um play um

649
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Speaker 1: And it makes you think, oh, they're like the Patriots,

650
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Like they've gone ten and six or eleven and five

651
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: or twelve and four. Every year for the past eighteen years,

652
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: so though they year out, but no, they actually before

653
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: that big draft, they went seven and nine three years

654
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: in a row. So it's not like and people are

655
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: talking to Sean Payton's job saving all this other stuff.

656
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: It's going to the Cowboys. Like, so it's not inconceivable

657
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: that the Saints could take a step back under Sean Payton.

658
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: It's happened before. They feel like Patriots, except now it

659
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: is seven and ten and except instead of seven and nine.

660
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Speaker 1: Uh Mark, alright, a little off the field, um nugget

661
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Speaker 1: from the Chargers, who I think one of the things

662
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: about the Charges that was kind of put on put

663
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: on ice last year was with no fans, we don't

664
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Speaker 1: have to worry about, you know, the optics of the

665
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Speaker 1: Chargers having seven thousand people in their stadium and eighty

666
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Speaker 1: thousand Raiders fans, and so now it's like, where are

667
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Speaker 1: we with that? And I read this little nugget this

668
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Speaker 1: morning that the Chargers actually they according to the team,

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Speaker 1: they have blown past the average season ticket sales from

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Speaker 1: their final twenty years in San Diego. The number right now, um,

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Speaker 1: that number average back then about forty five thousand. It

672
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Speaker 1: is well beyond that. They say, at this point, at

673
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Speaker 1: least you know, tangibly beyond it, and that means that

674
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, from a visual sense, it's not going to

675
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: be as bad as we thought. Um, this was just

676
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: always on my radar because I never thought that l

677
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Speaker 1: A should have two football teams, And had this been

678
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a total disaster, it would be a huge talking point.

679
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: The NFL wants nothing to do with that, and you know,

680
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: you're still probably gonna get fans from the other team,

681
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: which happened to them in San Diego. But it doesn't

682
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: sound like a white hot disaster, you know. I I'm

683
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: glad you, brother, Sup, because I saw this last week

684
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: and I had the same initial reaction as you. I mean,

685
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: they're not out of the woods yet, because first of all,

686
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: this is a very fickle town. Um. I mean, the

687
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Lakers are always gonna draw, the Dodgers always draw extremely well. Um,

688
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: the King's I have a really fervent fan base, and

689
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Speaker 1: you could point and then of course the college teams U, S,

690
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Speaker 1: S U, C, l A. I mean, it's it is

691
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: a really good sports down but you can get lost

692
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: in the shuffle, and if the Charges get off to

693
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: a bad start, all those people that bought season tickets, Well,

694
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do. They're gonna turn around and say,

695
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go see these guys. I'm not gonna

696
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: spend the money and you know, pay eighty dollars to

697
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: park at the new stadium and then watch them lose

698
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: in the last minute. I'm gonna sell this to some

699
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Speaker 1: insane Steelers fan and make a profit. So I don't

700
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: think they're out of the woods, but it is promising.

701
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like I don't know. I haven't

702
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: met anybody yet. I don't have a lot of Charger

703
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: fans in the Los Angeles area that I've interacted yet with,

704
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: but this data tells us that they're out there. I

705
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: know one. I know one. I know one why I

706
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: met at the bar when we watched the soccer friend

707
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: of yeah, dad of a of one of my kids friends.

708
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Speaker 1: I um, I think they would not which the pandemic

709
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: on anyone. But if any team's sort of uh benefited find,

710
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, from the pandemic in any way, it was them,

711
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, avoiding last season that which would have been awkward.

712
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there was much build up and but

713
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: then suddenly you have. Herbert is most one of the

714
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: most exciting young quarterbacks in the league. And I think

715
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: we've seen had a lot of sporting events in the US,

716
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: the pent up demand to just be back among people

717
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: and route on live sports is different than it was before.

718
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this across sports, is not just the NFL,

719
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the NFL is going to get a

720
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Speaker 1: little bit of a boost from that, assuming you know,

721
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Speaker 1: things don't get totally dark in the coming weeks. And

722
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: you could see the Chargers being a team because they

723
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: are a buzzier because of what happened last year where

724
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Speaker 1: you get like the guy, the dad that moved to

725
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Speaker 1: l A and like he was a let's say, a

726
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: Dolphins fan or a Jets fan or something probably not Jets,

727
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: so too loyal. They moved to l A. They reboot

728
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: all their loyalties and like bring their kids in because

729
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: they want their kids to watch football live, and they

730
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: all become Chargers fans. I mean it's like the Rams are,

731
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: by the way, don't have the roots they claim to

732
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: in this city either right now. I mean it was

733
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: thirty years ago they they don't. I mean, I think

734
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: they're both coming find us saying the Chargers. The Chargers

735
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: were the Chargers cue rating was so low a year ago.

736
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Speaker 1: At this time, I think it's vastly changed, and it's

737
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Speaker 1: gonna I think you're gonna get people curious about that

738
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: team if they get if they stay hot, Herbert was

739
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: a godsend. And and let's see if he continues on

740
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: his trajectory. I'm gonna do a quick double banger out

741
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: of the NFC East and n J Advanced media as

742
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: Mike k reported that Jalen Hurts his quote heavily targeted

743
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. Of course he's a tight end on the rise,

744
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: but also zach Ertz in training camp. You remember zach Ertz,

745
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl hero. He'll never have to buy another

746
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: meal in insert city here, like he Arts is in

747
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: that club. His game winning touchdown catch against the Patriots.

748
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Um and I just thought that was interesting after an

749
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: offseason of speculation that Arts would be leaving town and

750
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe you still will. They could still trade Arts hypothetically

751
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: before the season starts. Without the fact that he's having

752
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: a good camp does add a little bit more credence

753
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: to the idea that, okay, he's still just thirty years old.

754
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he just banged up last year. Maybe he's still

755
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: a player. And the fact that Jalen hurts through to

756
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: his tight ends a third of the time and his

757
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: playing time last year, maybe it's a good idea to

758
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: have to tight ends that can play the guitar and

759
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: then over in Dallas and we'll get to them more

760
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: thoroughly with hard knocks. But I just want to mention

761
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: here that Michael Gallop, according to the Dallas Morning News,

762
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: is seeing more work in the slot, which I like

763
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: because Michael Coppy it's almost like, I don't know if

764
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys know what to do with him, and he's

765
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: such a great talent, and it seems like they just say,

766
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: go run deep and every once in a while, we'll

767
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: throw out your way. If maybe you could carve out

768
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: a more nuanced niche to him in the game plan,

769
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: I think he could be a real stud receiver. He's

770
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I think one of the more underrated UH wide outs

771
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: in the NFC. They're gonna be so hard to cover

772
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: because if Cooper is healthy, I can't think of a

773
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: trio in the NFL that can all do everything like

774
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: those three. They're all very they're all diverse, especially if

775
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Gallup is moving outside. He probably would be the one

776
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: of the three that you know you you think he

777
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: has mostly one trick, which is going deep down the field.

778
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: He's a great boundary guy. But the three, I mean,

779
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb can do everything. Amari Cooper can do everything.

780
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: You got gallop cross training like good luck trying to

781
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: come up with a defense to stop that. And by

782
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: the way they did it, we saw him do it

783
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: for the first month of the season before Dak Prescott

784
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: went down. I mean, he was on route to an

785
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: m v P type season. And if you'll allow me,

786
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Speaker 1: just because I think it's very important given the status

787
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Speaker 1: of the world right now. UM Tampa Bay Buccaneers running

788
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Speaker 1: back Leonard four nette Um, who told reporters a couple

789
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Speaker 1: of weeks back that he wanted to learn more about

790
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: the vaccine, he has now updated his stance. He said,

791
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: we're almost there. So Dr Fournette is almost there in

792
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Speaker 1: in the research and deep research the digging on the vaccine,

793
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Speaker 1: and this podcast will keep you up to date. UM

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Speaker 1: four nets research and when it's complete, the number of

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Speaker 1: skyrocketed of the of the league has gotten at least

796
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Speaker 1: the first job. That's pretty high. I mean it was

797
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: like fifty on June were almost good whispers. I was like,

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Speaker 1: do I have a speed round whispers? Or did you

799
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Speaker 1: want to throw one in there? I don't want to know.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. It is Cam Wolf here, let's

801
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: stock to Cam. Let's welcome him in. He is, of

802
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: course the newcomer at NFL network or reporter, and hopefully

803
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: the hazing hasn't been too rough. I know he did

804
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Speaker 1: some work with rap sheet and you know rap report.

805
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Speaker 1: He could be real rough town of Newvies. So hopefully

806
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Speaker 1: we'll check in on that. How is the great Cameron

807
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: Wolf who has been doing a lot of work for

808
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Speaker 1: us at the network? First of all, welcome aboard and

809
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Speaker 1: his rap She had been cool? Or was he a jerk?

810
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: To be honest, he was good, man. I can't I

811
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: can't complain. I was preparing for everything they were told about.

812
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: I was prepared to curryous Mike and do all kinds

813
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Speaker 1: of rookie hazing. But he was actually pretty good. You know.

814
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was just trying to trying

815
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: to figure me up the first day, but you know,

816
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: he just let me take lead on on the air

817
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: and not tripping over me. And all types of things.

818
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Speaker 1: So he gave me a good welcome cool man, Well,

819
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: welcome aboard. And I know you're you're based in Florida

820
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: and you're doing a lot of Dolphins coverage for us.

821
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: You've also done some Panthers coverage. But let's start with

822
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: the Miami football team. And they got the deal done

823
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: with Xavier Howard. I imagine that was a huge relief

824
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: for the entire organization and it allows them to kind

825
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of move forward. What is the vibe around the team

826
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: post Xavian drama? Man, I was a big weight off

827
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: of everyone's shoulders, especially if you're Dolphins fan. You know

828
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Xaving Howard is the best player on the team. I

829
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: don't think there's really any question. And you know they've

830
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: already seen this happen two or three times over the

831
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: last few years. You know, make if this actor gets traded,

832
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: every tuncil gets traded. It's like, man, we can't teet

833
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: our best player every year, can we? So I think

834
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, early in off season he had requested to trade.

835
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: He wanted this new deal, but the reality was he

836
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: never truely wanted to trade. He just wanted to respect

837
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: that comes with money, and you know, he didn't feel that,

838
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: so I think that there is a lot of ease

839
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: attention over the last three or four days with with

840
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: him being sort of satisfied. I don't know if it's

841
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: fully finished. I think maybe if he has another great year,

842
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: we revisit this next offseason. But at least for now,

843
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: it seems like everyone's on the same page. The way

844
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Brian Flores defenses, they need man and man shut down corners,

845
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Speaker 1: and Xavian Howard is one of the best in the league,

846
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: so I think that helps everyone the team. His teammates

847
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: love them, and it's a lot easier when you don't

848
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Speaker 1: have to tiptoe around questions about why X isn't here,

849
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Speaker 1: you know, try to pick sides and whether you're with

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Speaker 1: the team or you're with X. So that was their

851
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Speaker 1: biggest maybe hurdle coming into camp. It seems like they've

852
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 1: overcome it. Are you wearing like a self branded shirt?

853
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I rap sheet didn't give you any

854
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: of the business, Like if you come in that's a

855
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: power move, like I'm at the new company. What if

856
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: your shirt say the wolf Pack, So you're you're like

857
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: another Sea wolf, You're like en is you know, a

858
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: regular on this show. That's another sea Wolf. Any like

859
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: tension there, like what's going on between YouTube? Please? Oh no,

860
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: oh no, that's that's no. No, We're we're a wolf pack.

861
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: We're a family. Um you know, of course of course

862
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: she's she's the she's the highest ranking sea wolf and

863
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: the wolf pack. You know, I'm just a new cup.

864
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: But we wolves, we stick together, so it's gonna be

865
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a stronger. As you guys know, when

866
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: wolf packs are together, they're stronger in pairs than they

867
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: are as singles. So, um me and are you talked?

868
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: You know, you guys are not gonna hear the last

869
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: of this this wolf brand, and we're gonna we're gonna

870
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna hte this. They tell us about to stop

871
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: the worst in their own names too. I think it's

872
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: a strong it's a strong move. This is the worst podcast,

873
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: by the way. It's just like all our questions, who

874
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: are Dolphins and Panthers reporter right now? Are just like

875
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: do you hate this new guy you work with? You

876
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: hate this new person? Are they nice to you or

877
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: they mean? Mark? Give us, get us on track, give us,

878
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: I do have it. I have something about the Dolphins

879
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: that on our show I've raised many times as just thinking,

880
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: So I just want to know how it's gonna work.

881
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: You've got two offensive coordinators, Eric Studsville George Godzi and

882
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm hearing that the offense has changed

883
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: a lot. Miles Gascon had comments saying, you know, it's

884
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna look real different, more motion, there's more deep passing,

885
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: it's more flexible. I mean, what is it gonna look like?

886
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: And can you just tell me how did these two

887
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: guys work together? And like who gets the blame if

888
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: like the offense crumbles, and like who the fans decide

889
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: to point fingers? That just feels a little bit atypical

890
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: to me. Is there a Batman and a Robin in

891
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: this mix? How does it? How is it truly going

892
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: to break down here? Again? Yeah, I think they're gonna

893
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: thumb Russell every game so you can call plays and

894
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: the winner is now I'm just guys, I'm just kidding. Um. Yeah,

895
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Now they they've defined the roles. I think I think

896
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: what helps is that, you know, George Garsie coming from

897
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: more of a path background, U Eric Studiensville is coming

898
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: from more run background. So although they have pass game

899
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: coordinator run game coordinators. You can kind of look at

900
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: it as maybe something of that help. We've seen that

901
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: in the past with teams who've had hey coaches that

902
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: are offensive offensive coordinator quote unquo, they'll have run gamelayers

903
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: the officers coordinators. So um, I think that they'll they'll collaborate,

904
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: but I think you'll see them fall a lot in

905
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: their lane. You know, George will probably have the heavier

906
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: hand on the passing games. He's worked with quarterbacks in

907
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: the past. He spent all of last season, the second

908
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: half of last season working with two of being the

909
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: guy who's directly in his here, So I'd anticipate that

910
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: George Gods would have a lot more contact in the

911
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: quarter room and in the passing game where Eric He's

912
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: been a running back coach his whole career, so he's

913
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna be having a lot more impact and in the

914
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: running name as with the offensive line and the protection.

915
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: So they haven't quote unquote named the play caller. I

916
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: have an idea of who I believe the play caller

917
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: will be, but I can't confirm that yet. So I'm

918
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: just gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna good reporters just kind

919
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: of let it free for now, sit on it until

920
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: I can get it come from. But I know who

921
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: the guy is. There's gonna be one play caller. There's

922
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be you know, a back and forth for hey.

923
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: But I think that that what helps them. And we

924
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: saw it last week because George Gotzi techt the positive

925
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: for COVID and he was out for a week. You

926
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: have two instead of one. So in this COVID era,

927
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: it probably helps you just in case something happens that

928
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: another guy can step in. And also it double helps you.

929
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he got doubles and it helps

930
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: with a little versatility, right because you know you're you're

931
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: playing your game playing is the Patriots one week you

932
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: want to run the ball forty times, it's probably gonna

933
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: be at Eric Scutisville game plan. You know, when you're

934
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: playing Kansas City and you gotta keep up with Hatrick Mahomes,

935
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: you know you're probably gonna have a Georgian Garzi led

936
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: game plan. So I think that's probably how it's envisioned. Um.

937
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: But to kind of jump off what you were talking

938
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: about earlier, it is going to be different from what

939
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: I've heard the three words I've heard have been flexibility, motion,

940
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: and deep balls, which are three things that are pretty

941
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: simple to us. But if you watch the doffense offense

942
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: last year, they're bare of all those things. So that's

943
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: probably a good word, good way to start for them

944
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: to try to get this uh get to uh in

945
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: the offense in in a better situation. I'm started done

946
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: doubting them, like you were there for the fish Tank season,

947
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: as we dubbed it a couple of years ago, and

948
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: they ended up being any more competitive than anyone thought.

949
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: I went into last season thinking they were like a

950
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: bottom five roster just in terms of talent, and then

951
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: if you actually look at the big free agent money

952
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: that they spent, most of it went terribly. And yet

953
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: somehow they show up on Sundays and they're like dynamic

954
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: and there's something there that seems like it's greater than

955
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: the some of their parts. You've been there for the

956
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: for the Brian Flores era. I guess, just from your perspective, like,

957
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: what is that? Because I think they've really overachieved back

958
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: to back years, and I have doubts about them again

959
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: this year. Yet now I've been learned from the last

960
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: couple of years. I'm kind of done doubting them and

961
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: figuring that that they'll look a little better than they

962
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: do on paper. Must be something in the fish change,

963
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: to use your word, But I think that when you

964
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: look at all of it, it's got to start with

965
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: the head coach, you know. And I think that they've

966
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: made a good hiring Brian Flores. I think he's a guy.

967
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: A lot of people were afraid when you hire these

968
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: Patriot assistance, who are they gonna be? Are they gonna

969
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: be copycast for Bill Belichick? And so far he's been

970
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: his own guy. I think he's owned a lot of

971
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: respect and I think he's maximized those teams. That year

972
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen UM, that first month, month and a half

973
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: of that year was miserable. I'm walking in the locker

974
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: room and guys are just you know, it's it's somber.

975
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: It felt like somebody in funeral walking there every someday.

976
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: And there was so much turnover that I had guys

977
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: asking me, you know, where where's the restroom? Where how

978
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: do I go? They just showed up on a Saturday

979
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: and they gotta play playing and expect there was a

980
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of stuff going on, But I

981
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: remember halfway through that year that was a big focus

982
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: point for them when I think Ryan Fitzpatrick came in

983
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: that game, and I think bran Flores earned a lot

984
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: of respect and that team sort of earned respect that hey,

985
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: we could be better in our talent says so on

986
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: paper this year, I think they're an average team. Like

987
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: you said, I think on paper, you look at him,

988
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a playoff team. Maybe you know, maybe

989
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: he's seven and ten aid and how do you want

990
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: to kind of rank them? But I think that they

991
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: have a little bit of magic in this defense and

992
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: particularly how they scheme this defense up, and really it's

993
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: all on to a to a plays better than he

994
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: did last year, Um, which is you know, obviously it's

995
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: a low bar. Then I think there's no reason why

996
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: they can't push for the playoffs. One of those Walker

997
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: spots in the ANFC. Man if the if the Dolphins

998
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: go in a positive direction this year and the Patriots improved,

999
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: and we know what the Bills are, that's gonna be

1000
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: a really interesting division, especially if the Jets are also

1001
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: competitive at least. Um, before you go, Cam, you were

1002
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: also at Panthers camp and I wrote a little about

1003
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: this recently, and I saw you reported it on as well.

1004
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: You when you take a step back and you look

1005
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: at the Carolina offense, Um, it's actually you don't have

1006
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: to squint to see it as a as a unit

1007
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: that can move and score points and make them potentially dangerous.

1008
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: What were you seeing when you were boots on the

1009
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: ground there. Yeah, you know, I'm a big fantasy football guy.

1010
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: So you start looking at the roster. If you start

1011
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: seeing some CHRISTI mccaffrees he helped, If he's helping top three,

1012
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: top five back in the league. You know Robby Anderson,

1013
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: d J. Moore, both of those guys had a rousing

1014
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: yards last year. You know. Um, and you bring in

1015
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: saying Donald and he's a question great. You know he's

1016
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: the to quote unquote of the of this offense where

1017
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: we just don't know what we're gonna get. Um and

1018
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: their big thing for that for him is kind of

1019
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. You guys, have you have weapons.

1020
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to be Superman. You don't have to

1021
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, throw all these interceptions you through with the Jets.

1022
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: You know, a dump off isn't to the Christiancaffrey isn't

1023
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: check down, Charlie. It might be a touchdown, you know.

1024
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: So I think they're am and I don't know if

1025
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna be effective or I can't sit here and

1026
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: tell you that that the same Donald experiment is gonna work.

1027
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: But I think their focus is, let's simply things for him.

1028
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Let's maybe hope that he can have a Ryan Tannehill

1029
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: tight turner where we put him in the system with

1030
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: Joe Brown. We make things, you know, from what I heard,

1031
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: the Jets kind of through through the book at him

1032
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: and said, hey, learn, learn and learn. So maybe they

1033
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: simplify things. Maybe they tell him to focus on Europens.

1034
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: They've got a good defensive front. There's no reason why

1035
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: they can't be the second best team in that division

1036
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Who Mark is loving this, He's that

1037
00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: real corners. Very good cam again, welcome aboard. It's great

1038
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: to have you and the best of luck uh in

1039
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: your maiden voyage here with NFL Network, and I'm sure

1040
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: we'll be in touch down the line. We gotta get

1041
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: both wolves on at the same time. That's their thing,

1042
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: that's their thing, seems friend on their I P But

1043
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: that's up to them. Ultimately yeah, all right, yeah, well

1044
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get something together. But I appreciate what

1045
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: fun there. He goes Cam Wolf actually never asked him

1046
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: if he's okay with Cam, but Cameron Wolf didn't seem

1047
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: not okay. Dan Arnold was another guy that's getting some

1048
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: pop a little abbreviated whisper here at the tight end

1049
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: that the Panthers brought in You. Yeah, but it all

1050
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: goes back and you gave I think Donald a negative

1051
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: forty seven point three mark greg and our division power

1052
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: ranking segments. So if Donald can't play the guitar, none

1053
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: of this matters. But they're hoping for the post gaze

1054
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: bump basically, I mean the Tannehill post gaze bump. That's

1055
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: exactly right. I will say that there's been some very

1056
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: clunky Sam Donald to Dan Arnold tweets. It's just like

1057
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: the most predictable, um you know, flurry of like kind

1058
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: of clunky wordplay stuff going on out on Twitter. Dan

1059
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Arnold is, I think an interesting player, but the the

1060
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: the way the tweets have come out to me because

1061
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Donald and Arnold is simply in the same sentence, there

1062
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: both things, both things. Yes, alright, everybody out there. You

1063
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: heard Mark clean it up, get that get that murkin

1064
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: out of there. Not the mirth all right before we go,

1065
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: and this is spoiler alert now to um all the

1066
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: UK listeners and and other international territories that haven't had

1067
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: access yet to the Hard Knocks premier. I did connect

1068
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: with Handsome Hank, our UK ambassador and all things here

1069
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: at NFL Media. He said that you could Hard Knocks

1070
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: will be up and in your UH screens Thursday afternoon

1071
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: or Thursday night on the game Pass app and UM

1072
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: I believe Sky Sports will also be airing it on

1073
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday, so check that out. As for the

1074
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: rest of you, let's dig into it. The premier Tuesday Night,

1075
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and UM I'll start here the Cowboys. Yes,

1076
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: it has been a twenty five year drought, um actually

1077
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: since they've been to the Super Bowl. And you could

1078
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: say that's gonna take some of the shine off the organization,

1079
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: and some ways it has, But in other ways, the

1080
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys are as high profile as they've ever been. And

1081
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: I think it's it's just fun to have them because

1082
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: even if they're not successful, they're always interesting to me

1083
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: and they and they have star power and that's that's

1084
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: important for Hard Knocks. So when the show opens, I

1085
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: think it was I think it was a noted it

1086
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: was something that was a calculated move by Hard Knocks producers.

1087
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: When the cold open of the show is we're in

1088
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: tight with Dak Prescott, one of the most recognizable figures

1089
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: in pro football, and he's speaking intimately about the struggles

1090
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: of twenty with the death of his brother and then

1091
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: the the horrible injuries to stain against the Giants six

1092
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: months later. Um, we're often running. And that was what

1093
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: I took away from the premiere episode that this is

1094
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: just gonna be fun with all these big stars right

1095
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: all the way up to the top where Jerry Jones,

1096
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: who's gonna obviously be a big presence. All through the

1097
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: five weeks. There wasn't even an episode one. There wasn't

1098
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: the here's the underdog and that's coming because it always

1099
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: comes in Hard Knocks, here's the underdog, seventh round pick

1100
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: or the street free agent who's trying to make the team.

1101
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: They said, no, this is the Cowboys, this is the star,

1102
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna lean on this premiere. UM

1103
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: and I like that. Um. So that was an initial

1104
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: takeaway I had Greg, what did you think about the premiere? Yeah,

1105
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: it was different format. Everyone says it's always like the

1106
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: same thing every year. It really wasn't. It might have

1107
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: been COVID impacted or they made They also just consort

1108
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: of made a decision. There's no build up to it.

1109
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: It was just like, let's get on the practice field.

1110
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of news here. Usually there isn't. Number One,

1111
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott says he had two surgeries now, one right

1112
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: off the bat. No one knew that. Uh number two,

1113
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: we see, we see what Jay Glazer had sort of

1114
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: reported about that. It was this, you know, this muscle

1115
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: injury that's more common in baseball, which, by the way,

1116
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a good thing. It's like we're

1117
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: we're calling the Rangers medical staff because we don't know

1118
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: how to handle this. I thought it was very telling

1119
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: when Troy Aikman said on the Fox broadcast, like, uh yeah,

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00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a little more serious than people think.

1121
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: When everyone everyone, you know, working for our company and

1122
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: everywhere else immediately all they said about Dak's injuries like, oh,

1123
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: it's not a concern at all. Well, you saw what

1124
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: a concern it was like to Dak Prescott and I

1125
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: to me, it makes me a little concerned about what's

1126
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: coming up. You saw how it important it was to him,

1127
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: to the coaches, to everyone like that he's on the

1128
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: field or not. That the fact that like him and

1129
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Zeke are like best buddies and they're trying to they're

1130
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: like making a buddy comedy out of it, and the

1131
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: biggest stars are totally fine with the cameras there, and

1132
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: that you know that starts with Jerry Jones. I mean,

1133
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna make it I think more fine. Well, how

1134
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: about to that point, Mike McCarthy and one of those

1135
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: coaches meetings, they have this very I mean hard to

1136
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: understand as an outsider, but they have this GPS tracking

1137
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: data that it's a metric that tracks how much activity

1138
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: a player has in a given practice, and Dak like,

1139
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: where is Dak at five seventy six? And McCarthy's like, WHOA,

1140
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: that's way too much. And then they reeled them back,

1141
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: put him on a pitch count, and and das frustrated.

1142
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: But then sure enough he shows up a couple of

1143
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: practice later with a bad arm, and market did and

1144
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: make me think all these things in the in the

1145
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: edit can make things a look like b when that's

1146
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: not necessarily case. But it did at least insinuate on

1147
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: some level that the Cowboys maybe brought him back too

1148
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: fast initially and that led to the injury. By their

1149
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: own words, I think you're exactly right, And you know,

1150
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: I think the thing, the thing that is great about

1151
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: this show is even though we have an impression of

1152
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and we kind of know how rough life

1153
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: has been for him over the last two years. You

1154
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: mentioned losing his brother in the injury. Um that I

1155
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: just came away knowing him and feeling like I had

1156
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: a whole different experience with Dak Prescott. I mean, first

1157
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: of all, I wanted to watch the show with my children,

1158
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: but um, Dak Prescott is a quarterback who drops about

1159
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: seventy two F bombs in this episode. McCarthy to y, Yeah,

1160
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean there was there was There was a lot

1161
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: of language, but you know what, like I kind of

1162
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: loved um him pushing back on not wanting to be

1163
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: put out of practice, like just I think he came

1164
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: across to me as far more determined and fiery than

1165
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: I imagine I think and Zeke Elliott is sort of

1166
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: a wonderful foil for him because Zeke Elliott. I remember

1167
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: I once talked to his mom about a Mother's Day

1168
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: piece in their relationship and she sort of said candidly like,

1169
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Zeke is a big boy like he you know, we

1170
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: saw he had never really wrapped a present before that

1171
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: He's operating in a bit of a different world than

1172
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: other adults too. I thought that was really good. Um.

1173
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: The part that gripped me and I know, Dan, I

1174
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: think you maybe we're not is one over this by

1175
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: this was John bones fastle Um digging into the process

1176
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: of having a vasect to me and then having it reversed.

1177
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand um personally why anyone on the planet

1178
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: is having that operation to begin with, But then I

1179
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: want to know why it was reversed. But I thought that,

1180
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, bones fastl is a guy that's kind of

1181
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: seems like UM hired by the studios to show up

1182
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: in Hard Knocks every couple of years and like steal

1183
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: the scene. And to me, I loved it. I think

1184
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: the kids players were fascinated by it. They think I

1185
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: think some could not figure out what was going on.

1186
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I thought it was just striking.

1187
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we cut to the scene and

1188
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: Bones is like talking about the surgery on his balls

1189
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: and he and he's and he goes into it in

1190
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: the players because they're a bunch of twenty three year

1191
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: old dudes. It's a last thing there ever thing about

1192
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: his best sectimies. When you get to be our age,

1193
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: you become you know, people that have had the procedure done,

1194
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: and you might get you might get some actual heat

1195
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: from certain people in your life to undergo such a procedure. Um,

1196
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: that's a dishes decision that people need to make. But

1197
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: after all that, and I thought the players, some players

1198
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: were kind of interested in it and like kind of

1199
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: making sense of the players are just looking at him

1200
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: like he had a third elbow growing out of his forehead,

1201
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: and I thought that, And then just the bomb at

1202
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: the end, the twist, It's like, oh yeah, and then

1203
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: you know they had to put me under it again

1204
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: when when they reversed it, and it was like everyone

1205
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, you think of Michael Scott in the office,

1206
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: snip snap, snip snap, Like what happened? What's the backstory?

1207
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I need to know more about because it was just

1208
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, my my guests would be that he wants

1209
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: to have children again, you know that would that would

1210
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: be the guess, I know, maybe a situation who who knows? Uh.

1211
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: The coaches though, like I don't know. I've had a

1212
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: very very somber and he's like, listen, this is what

1213
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: really happened. He mean, you guys are making it like

1214
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: a big mystery. What's the story w after He's probably

1215
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: was controlled the first time around and then he retook control.

1216
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: I think there's more to the store. I would like

1217
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: to know why that's a big decision to get the

1218
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: surgery and then to reverse it. Is also I am

1219
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: I've always had like an image of Mike McCarthy and

1220
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: I was I was prety hard on him, I think

1221
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: towards the end of the Packers or just the way

1222
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: he ran the offense, and just like, is he connecting

1223
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: to the this to his team? And I don't know

1224
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: when he started going with the mojo moment and when

1225
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: he started and the players seemed to like it, But

1226
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: when he started talking about Charlie Chuck around and Harry

1227
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: high school, I'm just like, this dude's corny. Let's listen

1228
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: to a little bit of the Mojo moment, which is

1229
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: the motivational employee that he's building into the camp experience.

1230
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: But whatever point in practice, okay, will be a Mojoe

1231
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: moment when it's time traditional confidence, chrisma performance, no matter

1232
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: what the situation. Like a smaller mojo, Mama, come, let's

1233
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 1: the announcement, Mojo, give me the defense on the wall

1234
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: side offense over here. Yeah, you look like your fire.

1235
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: I will behave. That was another thing like McCarthy, such

1236
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: a dad move. You know when that Austin Power sequel

1237
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: was huge. Uh, those guys were in diapers almost everybody

1238
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: in that room, and it's like, I don't know if

1239
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: that's the target audience. Uh, but I actually liked he

1240
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: won me back a little bit with Charlie Round and

1241
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: high school Harry I was gonna into that. I don't know.

1242
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: I do think though, Dan was a huge victory for

1243
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: you because, for the first time ever, I guarantee on

1244
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, the character Fat Bastard was put into

1245
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: a write up um by yourself, which I thought was marvelous.

1246
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm just I'm just saying like, at some level,

1247
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: like you see him at the beginning, McCarthy and Jerry

1248
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: Jones is tearing up and talking about coming back to

1249
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: football and what it means to him, and they just

1250
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: sort of so show McCarthy next to him, and he

1251
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: seems to be looking over thinking, like what the He

1252
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: looked to be fuddled. To me, he was like, what

1253
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: the hell is happening right now? And it's not like

1254
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: he's running the offense. Kellen Moore's running the offense, and

1255
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: like he's coming up with with the mojo moment. I

1256
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: don't I just don't know what's happening there. Mojo moment, Ricky,

1257
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: can you can you bring up the mojo moment? What

1258
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: it means? Also? I mean, and coaches do this stuff

1259
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: all the time. I just was fine. It was more

1260
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: than Charlie that. Charlie was like, nothing else matters. We're

1261
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: in this for a championship. Charlie Brown, he's out of

1262
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: the building mojo amojo moment, according to Mike McCarthy, And

1263
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: he has all the coaches yelling at also. And that

1264
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: was the p a guy at practice yelling it out too.

1265
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: So this is a major initiative for the Cowboys. Uh.

1266
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: This is what it said on the power point presentation.

1267
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: When it's time for additional confidence, charisma, and performance. This

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Speaker 1: one I got a little confused. So mojo moment is

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Speaker 1: established initially here that there's a time for a mojo moment, okay,

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Speaker 1: and it's like when that time hits, it's time for

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Speaker 1: the mojo moment. But then the second part of this

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Speaker 1: um the slate says, no matter the time, the place,

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Speaker 1: the situation, kick in your mojo, which makes me think

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Speaker 1: that you should be having your mojo at all times.

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Speaker 1: It feels like wasted energy undercuts what the initial thought,

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Speaker 1: which is when the moment calls for it, that's when

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Speaker 1: you need the mojo. Anybody, No, I think it's I

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Speaker 1: think number one. Um, it's probably I guarantee he's probably

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Speaker 1: run this mojo moment thing like six summers in a

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Speaker 1: row in Green Bay back in like the like two

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Speaker 1: thousand eight region. But um, it feels like he has.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a certain number of he maybe winning

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Speaker 1: up from different angles. But on that graphic he smushed

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Speaker 1: two angles together and they're almost they clash a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You're you're constantly in your mojo, but then you need

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Speaker 1: to know when the mojos finally needed, please finally, like

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Speaker 1: Kyle Sayingahan or Vic Fangio or Bill Bell. It's like

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Speaker 1: watching this and being like, well, we're gonna kill them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But he is also the only coach I've ever got.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodger is over the mountain top. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I find him, even though I don't think he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: he inherited Aaron Rodgers and he was the head coach.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I think he's an interesting figure

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Speaker 1: to track just because he's been around for so long

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Speaker 1: and you get this. I'm not saying he's the leader

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Speaker 1: of men that you want one, but for the cowboys,

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Speaker 1: he is right now. Finally, Jerry Jones, um Mark, this

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Speaker 1: had to be the low point for you. The episode

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Speaker 1: his Breakfast seventy eight years old and get a shout

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Speaker 1: out of this Ricky seven eight years old. And Emily

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Speaker 1: was watching it with my wife and and she said, oh,

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Speaker 1: she thinks it's a brioche bun with what looked to

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Speaker 1: be a cheese and a sausage. And I said, no,

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Speaker 1: look at the consistency of the bun. I think, first

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Speaker 1: of all, I think it's an egg in there. I

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Speaker 1: think you probably have cheese. You definitely have the sausage patty,

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Speaker 1: and then I think it might be like pancakes, a riddle.

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Speaker 1: It's a mcgriddle, And in fact, I thought there was

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Speaker 1: you could see. I thought McDonald's um packaging. But I

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Speaker 1: looked up what is in a mcgriddle and this is

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Speaker 1: from their website. It is griddle cakes. That's the breadish

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Speaker 1: item that it's I think it is like a sweetened pancake, UM,

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Speaker 1: a folded egg, pasteurized, processed American cheese, thick cut applewood,

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Speaker 1: smoked bacon. In this case, it could be sausage, clarified

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Speaker 1: butter um. We see him pouring salt on top of it,

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Speaker 1: but just would like to point out to Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: that it already comes packed with thirteen hundred sixty milligrams

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Speaker 1: of sodium. So the extra salt uh okay. He put

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Speaker 1: so much salt on his macgriddle that they actually cut

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Speaker 1: away from it when he was already like deep into

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Speaker 1: the process. We have no that were watching. They were like,

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Speaker 1: this is a bad example. You guys can frown upon it.

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Speaker 1: I actually made me like him more too. Now I

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Speaker 1: would I would open the morning. He's seventy eight years old.

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Speaker 1: He's gone. I'm gonna eat a macgriddle. Well, you guys

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Speaker 1: have been up in Oxnard, right, and that like that's

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Speaker 1: set up that the Cowboys staying to me is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd you get a reflection of that in

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Speaker 1: training camp. It's not it's it's not fancy. It's like

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Speaker 1: a huge you know, no no slack to the Renaissance brand,

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Speaker 1: great great hotels, but it's pretty much the worst hotels

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Speaker 1: those players are going to stay in all year for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty low key, very chill scenario and everyone's

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Speaker 1: staying in it. There's no like special house. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has someplace on the beach. I don't know about,

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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure they're all just like staying in

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Speaker 1: this little hotel complex. It's not a big deal in

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Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, and there is something to that

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Speaker 1: that I like that. Very few NFL teams still keep

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Speaker 1: up with that like old school nineteen fifties, sixties tradition

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: of like we're all going to camp and we're in

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Speaker 1: it together. It's cool they do that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: They're in the dorm rooms and I don't know it

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Speaker 1: just said it just feels like, like you said, old school,

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: because as as the sports world, the bikes around and stuff,

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Speaker 1: everything is so much more high glossy and everything else

1347
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: has done at such a high level now that you

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Speaker 1: kind of lose some of that innocence of what the

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Speaker 1: sports sporting world was like even years ago. Gassie is

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Speaker 1: not something I would attach to the Dallas Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: any level. So, I mean, there were moments it felt

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Speaker 1: like a bit of a like I could almost feel

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Speaker 1: West shuddering. He would not have liked. There were felt

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Speaker 1: like it was like a pr video for the one Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: There was a little bit of that. But I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the moment that is. And John Gonzalez tweeted this,

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Speaker 1: and this is a part of Hard Knocks as well.

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Speaker 1: You come out of these episodes you're like, oh Man

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Speaker 1: Steave looks pretty good. Yeah, I mean they do have

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Speaker 1: a ton of talent. I mean, they are they are

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Speaker 1: a fascinating teams. Gonna lose. I don't know, I'm worried

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Speaker 1: about that. I'm I'm a little I'm a little more

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Speaker 1: worried I think than must. Yeah he's throwing lightly now,

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Speaker 1: by the way, but that will be You know sometimes

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Speaker 1: that these things dovetail together nicely. When Hard knocks sinks

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Speaker 1: up with an actual big NFL story a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago with Antonio Brown, that comes to mind his

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Speaker 1: contentious hold out with the Raiders and the foot issues

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Speaker 1: he had after going in the cryogenic cham What is

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Speaker 1: that guy was nuts? Um, but we're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: good coverage of the stack thing that otherwise they would

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Speaker 1: be able to shield in secrecy. Um. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: This is my tenth season, by the way, at NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com writing these recaps. I started two thousand twelve

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Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and have done it every year since.

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Speaker 1: I've only missed two episodes when Harrison was born and

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Speaker 1: gret no no when Jack was born in two thousand

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Speaker 1: uh fourteen, and Greg you had jumped in for those

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Speaker 1: two apps. Otherwise, every recap every year sands man sands

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Speaker 1: through the hourglass, I mean, but conversely, when Greg leaves

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Speaker 1: the set to go pick up a child, he's land

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Speaker 1: based id by you and myself. Well, the birth of

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Speaker 1: a child, I mean, got to be there with the

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Speaker 1: white in the house. Mean, I think we should all

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Speaker 1: be flexible, you know, with with things. We started the

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Speaker 1: show a little late because the lawnmower is making a

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Speaker 1: lot of noise. It's like we're beginning end of the show,

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Speaker 1: changing times. What is I don't there was no lawnmower.

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Speaker 1: There's something like that. I don't remember. There's no lawnmower.

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Speaker 1: We have a slide at handsas manor a pool slide.

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Speaker 1: It had to be sanded down. Very loud process, very

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Speaker 1: loud process, very expensive process. By the way, this home

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Speaker 1: ownership thing, you gotta watch out. And but you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned you had a pool man Sandy in the slide.

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Speaker 1: But he also brought a pool boy with him. Very intriguing.

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Speaker 1: Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? A pool man and a

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Speaker 1: pool boy. Yes, and I'll send them your way next Mark.

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Speaker 1: There won't be anything for them to do in my place.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you need them for. We'll put

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Speaker 1: them to work getting weird. All right, good stuff. Hey,

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Speaker 1: NFL Network program is back Friday. Hey, we got a

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Speaker 1: great time time and we're right before Washington Patriots six

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern. That's that's as good on a Thursday. That's

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: as good a time as we've ever had. So it

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: keeps you to watch it. That's great. So we're the

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Speaker 1: lead into the preseason action. That's good. That's a good

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Speaker 1: time slot. Please check that out. UM. We are very

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Speaker 1: excited about things that are happening over on the network side.

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Speaker 1: UM and we will be back with this program UM

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Barring any type of crazy news, you won't

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Speaker 1: hear from us on the podcast again until Monday. But

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Speaker 1: thank you to everyone for listening, thank you to Ken Wolf.

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Speaker 1: UM and we will be back on Monday. Until then,

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Speaker 1: He's the car s