WEBVTT - Dear White People Cast / Meek Mill Interview and More 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.079 The Thread is a new hit podcast from Azzi Media 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.640 that explores history surprising connections in order to discover how 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.480 one thing leads to another, like how movie moguls in 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.959 early Hollywood helped spark the Me Too movement. Today, get 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:19.319 it on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen anywhere else. So 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:24.759 your brother over right, the world's most stagers want to 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:33.559 show the camera agree? Is this the city dry? The 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.040 captain on the speech we usually eat the only one 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:44.320 who can keep these guys in chest the breath, Wake up, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.880 wake up, wa This is your time to get it 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.760 off your chest. You man blessed. We want to hear 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:56.840 from you on a breakfass glove, Hello, who's this? What's up? Broke? 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.360 Get it off your chest? Man, Man, We're going on. Man, 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.120 I'm so happy be one of the best things that 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.400 I love. Man, it's for grission. And I just got 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.640 some of the visit this morning man from this girl. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.080 And she used to suck man in like you don't 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.320 know if it chance eight hundred five eight five one 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.920 tho five one, if you upset, you neither vent here 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:22.400 to something, pick up the mother mother phone and died. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.600 This is you're trying to get it off your chat 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.480 shore your man. We want to hear from you on 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.520 the breakfast club, so we better have the same energy. Yeah. Hello, 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.520 who's this Joe? This is Barshi man coming out of 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.280 a tassing man out here in the morning, heading out 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.720 a three. What's happening? I need you to slow down 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:40.920 or you sound like you had a lot of park 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.320 this morning. Calm down, many your your DJ Envied and 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.040 and angel Lee. This is a true story. I kid 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.480 you not. I'm coming out of the joint. I was 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.160 talking to a cat and he hooked me up with 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.160 Sharlo Made the guard and Sharlo Made talked to me. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.559 Before he got that platform, he didn't have no money 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.640 or nothing, and he was dead broke and he was 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.760 amazed at the story. Soon as he got that platform, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.840 this is the green nineteen need to create a hip hop. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.839 They all pioneers know it and now everybody they're doing 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.000 the movie on me and here Charlomie didn't have no money, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.440 Jo didn't even know him, DJ Envy and Angela Lee. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.560 He didn't have no money or none of that. Soon 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:26.840 he got that platform. Goldie's my man, Chalomte, your best friend, Goldie. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.640 He put you on the phone with me when I 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.760 was driving the trolley bust in Charleston doing a million 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.120 dollars weddings taking everybody to the plantation that was coming 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.480 from all over the country. And you talked to me 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.799 for a now thirty minutes, and I told yo, I 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.040 was the creator. You didn't have no money. He was 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.240 dead broke. Soon as you got that platform, like many 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.400 black people do. You flip, got a book deal, move 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.440 your family out it there. Now you're in Jersey, Goldie 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.399 me and gonna be talking about you all the time. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:59.280 Train he may and then me and Ben Boy driving 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:00.959 the mount in the band with Grant what it said 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.880 or in Shootout nineteen seventy five, nineteen seventy six, seventy seven, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.280 seventy eight, I'm in the marsh, you asked him, and 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.519 out the faint thirty five years in the marsh you 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.120 art and we're over here. I'm bringing this culture to 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.720 all the five bubbles. Nobody knew no hip hop. You 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.120 have nothing. You will come out the country or some 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.200 March corner first living that in Chalston, Challeston. All of 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.040 that back then was all bummy and thirty. Now you 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.480 get a platform. You don't know the history. You don't 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.959 know the life, but you know what's about it. It's millions, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.120 just like you Charlotte made. So I'm not gonna even 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.920 hate on you right now, you little I don't know. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:41.760 I well, listen, Goldie is my guy. That's not my 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.440 best friend, but that's my guy. And number two, I 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.800 don't understand your point. Yeah, I was broke at one point. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.840 Broken people come up. I don't understand what your point is. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.680 I don't get it. I don't like you spoke to 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.720 me back in the day and then now what he 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.040 sent number thirty minutes that was pretty good. You know, 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.320 you fucking South Carolina. He was broken. You got a 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.200 job in New York. You're working, you know. I don't 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.560 see the problem. I mean, sound like a great come 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.680 up story to me. I don't know. I was proud 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.480 of you. I mean, hey, slew to my dude, God, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.640 Golden Eyes. I still talk to Golden. I don't know. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.200 I don't I don't know. I was in South Carolina. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.360 That'd be a long drive every morning. I don't get 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.160 the point of the whole story. He just told you 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:20.800 to be like, why are you putting me in it? 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:26.920 But good morning, goodness, gracious, He was mad, Hello, who's this? Hey? Man? 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.360 This Davey roughughing again. Man, I'm back. I'm trying to game. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.240 I feel I'm already doing this morning. I'm blessed, like 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.880 y'all thing we team yourself. It's been a weird morning. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.520 But what's up, bro? I'm alright, man, I've been on 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:36.920 you know, I got away two days ago. You know, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.800 I'm just an outcomings to media. But what I really 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.599 wanted to get off my tracks? Why I ask six 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.320 in the morning, and I'm certain people I think they 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.520 forgot about hygiene. You see, I'm bad of me. There's 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.599 no reason that six in the morning. You seem like 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.640 the back of a trans truck and the ship just thoughted. Man, 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.920 But if you do garbage, if you're a garbage person, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.560 it stays in your pos though. Come on, it might 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.359 have been it might have been trans from the day before. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.280 And to the guy that called U right before this, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.720 it's ine, he kept saying. Anyone does that. Man is 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.400 clearly eating park early in the morning. Man, don't tell you. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.320 Just want to say, sometimes people smell because of their clothes. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.080 You ever noticed that sometimes people if you shower and 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.840 you put on dirty clothes, old dirty coat. You're still 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.920 gonna smell, So make sure you watch your clothes. You 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.480 don't if you cheap the turgeon. Sometimes cheap the turgeon 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.479 don't work. That's why you got it from breeze everything. Okay, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.839 get it off inches he ain't broke no more showing 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.680 me you ain't got to breeze everything always. I'm always 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.599 live like broke. You got from breeze, get some, get some. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.440 Wasn't sure what he wanted, like nobody. I don't know. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:41.440 I don't know. The breakfast club wanting everybody is DJ Envy, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.560 Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We all the breakfast club. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.560 You got some special guests in the building. The show 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.160 I'm Happy is coming back. The cast of Deal White 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:56.560 People say their name theself. Okay, hey guys, I'm Logan 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.480 Browning man at the White Yeah, okay, Sam White, I'm 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:05.040 Ashley Blamed Featherson, Joel Brooks, a man's when at Robertson Coke, O'Connors, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:11.800 good morning, Good morning about Dan. White People, explain to 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.599 him what it is Dar. White People is a series 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.919 that follows several students of color on the landscape of 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:22.560 an Ivy League predominantly white university, and racial tensions get 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.960 to like an all time high when a black face 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.479 party is thrown. So we follow each student individually and 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.400 kind of see their lives and how they deal with 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.279 racism and social injustice being a black face and a 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.760 white place. YEA, what letters this show writing to write 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.560 white people? Um? I think it's saying see us, acknowledge us, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.440 hear us. Um. You know what we're saying about how 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.200 we're we feel that we're treated at times is valid um, 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.560 and we're being unapologetic about it. One of the best 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:59.600 examples of that is when Sam White's boyfriend, actually Gabe, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:07.440 calls the cops, right, and boy Gabe was scared. He 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.720 was scared, y'all we do when we're scared, it's called 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.920 the cops, right. Yeah, that's he's scarier. Yeah. And you know, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:15.600 there was a whole debate and we've been having this 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.880 debate about white people using the N word and songs 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.800 when they're singing along to Okay, trap and words and 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.480 he's saying the word like it's okay, not Gabe. For clarification, 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.240 I thought Gabe can't do that either. No, and he 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.360 knows that right, and it turns into a whole debate 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.640 and they get into an argument about that, and then 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.200 Gabe is the person that actually caused the cops and 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.200 he's white and he's your boyfriend Sam on the show. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.560 Have you guys ever been around somebody white using the 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.200 N word that's singing along? Not I said the fly, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.960 not me. Nobody's doing it with me, And if they were, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.800 they wouldn't still be right. Nobody to come out with yawn, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.600 doctor SEUs? Did white people book something? Even Like if 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.320 I'm in the car and like I hear people like 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.520 blasting rock music and they're white, I'm always like looking 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.920 to be like, are you about to say it? No, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.800 you don't see it at a club or the time? Yes, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.760 just to play white devil's advocate. Can't you see what 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:13.600 it's a little confusing for them? I can't do. That's 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:18.720 what I understand why it might be confusing, But I 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.040 still don't get why people use the word. Like you're thinking, oh, 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.200 I like the song, I can sing it. I'm like, yeah, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.520 but that's still a line you can't cross. So I 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.840 feel like some people like debating that it's not a debate, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:35.959 like you can't use this word no by the same token. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.720 I just kind of feel like that's like if a 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.680 black person said, you know, we endured slavery for so long, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.960 we should be able to call white people like, I 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:53.640 don't know, crackers or something. No, man, no. But my 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.160 point is that I don't think that you're not walking 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.480 around being like, well, just because of slavery, I'm able 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.319 to say it like I guess, I don't know. I 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:01.840 just don't think I say it out of a reaction 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.400 for the way that my people have been oppressed. Now, Logan, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.360 your character really intrigues me because she's sold militant on 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.240 the show, but she does date a white white guy. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.800 You know, you think that people lose a level of 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:17.800 blackness when they date outside of their race. I don't 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.960 want to think that. I think that there is a 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.400 part of your blackness that you get to explore deeper 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.120 when you are in a relationship with another person of 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.840 your same ethnicity. Um, it's a choice. It's a choice 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.440 that everybody gets has to make. Have you guys have 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.839 dated a white boy? I did. I did, and it 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:43.440 was an interesting bring you home to family. I have 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:54.960 a Jamaican mother. Like little conversations were like that went 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.320 over his head, like he was like, wait, so what 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.760 are they talking about right now? And I can't do it. 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:05.120 I not cut out for it. A differences, but no, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.000 bring him, bring him home would be fine. It's just 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.520 that was irritate. I want, I need you to understand 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.280 what I'm talking about. I need you that. I don't 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.560 want to have to He's not gonna understand. I don't 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.080 know even if it's just like I wouldn't even want 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.880 to be in a situation where he's like, oh, like 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:24.000 you guys are eating like damns and how do you 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.720 where does that come from? You know? And I have 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:32.000 to be like well when we were slay me, I said, 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.719 I just don't want to be I just I need 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.480 you just get it, you know, less dating Asian men. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:45.920 I'm sorry what you said. Why have you said? Yes, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.800 that was based off of what you said put in 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.520 her book that all of a sudden everybody got mad 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.360 at that educated black women should just get with Asian 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:58.760 men Asian man to serve plus of men in China, 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.520 they do like they out number women like twenty seven 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.640 one or something crazy, because they used to get rid 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.120 of it when they of the baby girl. Yeah, I mean, 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.880 I think that educated black women should date whoever they 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.280 want to. You know what I mean, Um, on an 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:18.520 opposite spectrum, black women or men, that it's important to 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.520 them to be with someone else that's black. I feel 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.040 like sometimes we're shamed for that too, or like when 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.000 I say that, like it is important to me that 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.440 I marry a black man, because I've said that many 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.920 a time, I'll continue to say it. Um, that's important 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.280 to me, particularly from where we come from and how 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.040 that was prohibited. We were pulled apart. I want to 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.559 pull us back together. That's less likely when, especially when 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.520 you go to school that's so mixed, you know, because 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.120 I like, I get my daughter now, she goes to 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.040 a mixed school where I don't really see her dating 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:47.840 a black person right now. That's why I want her 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.560 to go to HBCU so bad, because she doesn't see it. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.200 So to Howard, that was so Howard. Being a Howard 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.640 just changed my life. It's interesting you went to Howard 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.040 because you know, so it a scratch to play a 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.000 black women going to an Ivy League school. No, it's 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.360 not a stretch because I so I grew up like 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.160 in the DC area, but I went to predominantly white 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.640 schools growing up. So that was a huge reason why 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.120 I went to Howard because I wanted that experience, because 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.320 I my experience prior to that was more like Winchester UM. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.920 But as far as like, my college experience is completely 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.040 different than Joel's and you having no white women walking 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.160 up to you asking about your hair. I did not. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.200 I did not. I did not that. Yeah, that was 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.079 my experience. I didn't realize, like I But you almost 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.640 don't even realize it until you do. Like I was 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.960 the only black girl on my entire hall in my building, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.079 and I really didn't realize it until one thing would happen, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.880 you know, one little thing somebody say something to you 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.760 and you go, oh damn, like or you realized myself, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.640 but you realized can you talk to you about? You 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.199 can't be like, yeah, you ain't got nobody to talk 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.000 to you about. Yeah, but there is. But still on 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.520 a on a predominantly white campus, just like Winchester, there 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.800 are pockets of black people and they sit together you 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:00.200 that you hang out at your own little men. The 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.160 black guys on my school, they would have like a 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.199 black girlfriend, but then they would go to the sorority 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.439 and the fraternity parties and the white the white ones, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.559 and it'd be like a whole different world. So they 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.440 cheat on their girlfriend with these white girls. But it 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:16.360 was so segregated. They never even pads, would never even crush, 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.680 nobody would know because it was like having a whole 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.400 different world. Just I just want to raise my hand 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.920 and say, this is a lot of guys who if 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.640 you're a black man, you date a black woman, if 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.480 you cheat with a white girl, they don't consider it cheating. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:34.120 But don't worry about that. I've I've heard that before. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.160 Give me. I've just heard that they consider just like 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.360 exploring a fetish or white is out of sight. So 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:44.679 it's just like that's what I've hearned. Goodbye. It makes 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.480 it okay, right, that's not only anything about that. Does 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.199 that mean a black women cheat with a white man? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.719 It doesn't. Yeah, how you feel about that, that's just 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.480 that's just wrong. Why be a sellout? Why you want 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.840 to be a cellout? I wanted to sell people want 0:13:54.880 --> 0:14:00.760 to want to sell like that. Why We'll be back 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.800 with the cast of dear white people. So don't move. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:08.240 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast club. Well, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.880 and everybody's DJ Envy Angela yee shawl. I mean the 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.760 guy we are the breakfast club. We got a special 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.199 guest in the building. Welcome home, Meek, Millyeah. I appreciate it, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.320 appreciate it. Congrats to me coming home. I saw your 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.720 dateline special man in your Andy interview. It seemed like 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.680 you're moving with purpose. Now, yeah, I've been moving with 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.040 favorite for us, but it's different kind of purpose though. Yeah, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:32.800 the support I got when I was in prison, I 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.840 feel like I should be reaching back and giving out 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.040 the same support because even a lot of people on 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.560 social media, y'are scamming free Meek. They've got family members 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.400 in prison this day. You know, I'm just reaching back 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.840 the same way people supporting me. It really gave me 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.960 a different outlook to see that many people support me. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.680 At one time. Of course, I know a lot of 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.200 people was like supporters of my music and stuff like that. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.200 But when it came to real life, people standing outside 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.760 the rain, protesting and actually being a part of helping 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.320 me back on the streets, you know, I mean, I 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.120 felt like I'm entitled a step back, get back. You've been, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.920 you've been, You've been to jail before the why why 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.000 was this time different? Like like what hit you this time? Like, God, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.880 I guess I don't know. I don't know why people 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.560 came out and stood up for me this way with me. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.480 With me, it always was like I didn't have a 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.960 platform to really speak, you know, when you speak on 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.640 stuff and you might just come find a prison. People 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.000 don't really take it the same way, even the platforms, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.400 like the interviews I'm going down, the platforms I'm getting down. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.960 It wasn't available to me white white media. It wasn't 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.880 available to me a year ago. It wasn't eye opening though, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.760 when you went to jail this last time, I think 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.920 for a lot of people, because at first the narrative was, oh, well, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.160 why why should we feel bad for him? He violated 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.080 his probation And some people were saying that, and I 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.120 was like, well, he popped up Wheelie and he ended 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.640 up violating his probation for something he didn't even get 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.280 charged with. Yeah, And that's what everybody say, though, And 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.240 then you do you make one thing that don't look 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.480 right Before people find out the real story, they're gonna 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.800 judging any But then the real story comes out and 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.640 we're like Wow, there's a lot more layers to this. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.400 And that's the case I think with a lot of people, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.600 not even just with you, but a lot of people 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.960 that are in jail for violating probation. And that brings 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.840 light to a lot of other people. They got some 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.280 money like me that got seven lawyers, that can't get 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.200 out of a situation. Imagine someone who don't have the 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.920 type back and that I got going on, you know, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.920 the destroy their life and equipments, and they would never 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.400 get relief from a situation like that. Basically right now, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.040 I'm on the street. I got a two year sentence 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.680 right now, well four year sentence right now. So for 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.000 the average person to get relief from a situation like that, 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.840 it's like slum to zero percent. We talked about it 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.320 a lot because you know a lot of times from 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.240 the beginning, they give us these horrible deals, but we 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.280 look at it like we'll take this time before we'll 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.800 take this want to go to jail. I was watching 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.640 this special. Damn. I did a decade on probation too, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:55.520 but from seven it's Commonwealth probation is too. It's it's 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.960 it's different levels to it, like you see out here, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.760 Like I had a Willie and the bike kids, they 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.920 charged me would have fellony. They knew I was on probation. Really, 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.240 it's not an F one felony to Willie a motorcycle. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.440 I went to court, it got threw out, it got 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.520 turned into a traffic ticket with it what it really was. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.280 But even though I got it throughout in New York, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.720 I still had to go back to Philadelphia and face 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.879 another judge about Willie and a bike, a case that 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.159 got throughout and still got sentence on that. You know 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.159 what they say, um, if O. J. Simpson admitted to 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.199 committed to the murder, he wouldn't be able to be 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.720 charging because it's double jeovity on these situations about how 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.560 the laws are set up in Pennsylvania. Even if you 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.719 be the case like I always say, the Starbucks and Starbucks, 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.520 I could have got the same sentence. It was nothing different. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.840 They would have't like he violated he got locked up 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.760 in Starbucks. They wouldn't have said in the media what 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.160 I got locked up in Starbucks for? Like you got 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.800 locked up in Starbucks. He volley probation in jail, and 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.680 people would have been like, so, what he violated the probation? 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.960 You understand what I'm saying. So, like any interaction with 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.919 the place. You had an incident in the airport too, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.520 and from my understanding, I don't know exactly what happened, 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.520 but they were trying to get a picture. You know. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.520 It ain't letting nobody punch on us like touches. I can't. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.159 I don't really want to like incriminate the god to 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.840 that level. But we ain't letting nobody really do nothing 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.080 to us, you know what I'm saying. So even if 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.360 somebody harasses you and then the police are called, that's 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.520 to interact him with the police. And yeah, like I 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.480 didn't get charged with that. I didn't get a crime. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.520 I got a side tation because it was an incident. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.639 But of course we're in an airport, is on camera. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.359 I didn't get locked up for a reason. You know, 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.640 if you fight in the airport, you ain't making your flight. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.560 I still made my flight. I kept moving. I actually 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.960 was violated for that too. Now we've seen you talk 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.840 to tr and T. I was like, I told you 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.520 ten years ago to do the time. Would you have 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.280 done it differently if you knew what was going to 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:40.480 happen now, if you'd just say you know what, I 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.280 ain't taking a ten year probation. But if I would 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.119 have did the time back then, I probably wouldn't be 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.160 here today and had this platform, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.160 Even when I was dealing with Tip, he was going 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.919 to jail, He'll get out, I'll go to jail. He 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.240 was going to jail. It was back and forth because 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.000 we was both fighting our processes like and it wasn't 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.440 We was catching new cases of volley And that's just 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.399 the process when you got good lawyers that get you 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.040 back out when you get sentenced and get you some 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.600 grace period and then now you get sentenced. So we 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.639 was going back and forth like that. And then the 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.800 last time you went to jail, I was like twenty 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.240 I was probably like eighteen nine. I probably was twenty one. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.040 The streets was getting real like I had to like 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.600 make a move to get out the streets. I felt 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.120 like if I didn't make a move, probably would have died. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.280 Have been in jail for a long time because when 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.040 I was coming up coming up that at the time, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.440 it was like getting more ruthless in the area. So 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.159 I had to make a move. Is that why that 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.879 situation with grandhust will never worked. Yeah, basically it was. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.560 It was other little things too. It it it was other 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.200 people in the middle trying to get you know how, 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.760 you got managers of stuff like they want they want 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.359 to label del you like, I'm just trying to get 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.480 a deal. You want a label deal. I ain't trying 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.240 to you trying to be baby. I'm trying to be 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.040 a little Wayne right now. Just let me get in 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.399 the door, do what I got doing with or I 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.080