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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear that both the next big.

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Speaker 5: Job the Cooktopia prett.

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Speaker 6: Rock.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 7: Oh, nothing going on as usual in this year mixed

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Speaker 7: Martial arts space. Great to be back in your life,

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Speaker 7: and thanks for supporting the two shows a week. Some

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Speaker 7: people don't even remember the time we were doing just

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Speaker 7: one episode a week. It's Monday, March twenty seven, twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty three, episode three ninety nine of the Anak and

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Speaker 7: Florian Podcast, presented by DraftKings. We're full. Episodes can be

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Speaker 7: found on their YouTube channel and if you consider the

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Speaker 7: like a way they should populate for you nicely. Kem

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Speaker 7: fill a lot of self defense and set in a base.

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Speaker 7: I believe a big part of your last two days,

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Speaker 7: is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yeah, we did a little seminar actually well

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Speaker 5: two days the seminars which was nice and yeah it

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Speaker 5: was great. It was great, man. I had a good turnout.

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Speaker 5: People learned a lot of good stuff and it was

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Speaker 5: a good time. Almost four hundred episodes, huh, Johnny for.

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Speaker 7: Almost four hundred episodes of the podcast, and Kenny reluctantly

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Speaker 7: got on board April of twenty fifteen, and I've taken

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Speaker 7: up a part of his week ever since. But we

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Speaker 7: thank everybody for the support. Yes, our four hundredth episode

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Speaker 7: will be coming up later this week, might even be

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Speaker 7: an exclusive with Michael Bisbink, so we'll see what comes

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Speaker 7: of that. But if you do follow at Kenny Florid

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Speaker 7: on Instagram, and I strongly recommend it, Base in space, right,

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Speaker 7: So you know, I'm going to pick up my kids

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Speaker 7: later today and I don't think I'm going to confront anything,

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Speaker 7: but just in case, you know, I got those two

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Speaker 7: words the front of my brain stem. Have a good base, right,

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Speaker 7: So even here in South Florida, if your parents in

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Speaker 7: South Florida are listening, don't wear flip flops to pick

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Speaker 7: up your kids. Folks wear sneakers and socks, right, because

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Speaker 7: otherwise you got no fucking base. Just askt you car

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Speaker 7: close right, how that worked against Jeremy Stevens. You miss

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Speaker 7: a big set of your career. Base in space. So

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Speaker 7: sneakers in socks ideally and keep some space one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: Don't let someone get too close to if you don't

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Speaker 5: know who they are. Don't let them in your space. Man,

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Speaker 5: Like I see guys all the time again, don't know

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Speaker 5: how to fight, and they want to step to each other.

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Speaker 5: They get right in front of each other's face. You

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Speaker 5: can head button, you could punch, you could push, you

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Speaker 5: could take them down a ton of things. Don't let

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Speaker 5: someone in your space always, you know, have you have

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Speaker 5: your legs stabilized to the floor and uh, that will

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Speaker 5: kind of set things right from there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, imagine someone out there mistaking Ken Flow's kindness for

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Speaker 7: weakness one time, invading his space.

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Speaker 6: Fuck around and find out, you know, run up, get

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Speaker 6: done up? All right.

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Speaker 7: Lot coming up today, and again, thank you for being

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Speaker 7: with us. We really do appreciate that. Ray Longo coming

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Speaker 7: up in about a half half an hour. We're also

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Speaker 7: going to talk to Brendan Locknane. Sounds like you might

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Speaker 7: be wheels up to Vegas here in a few days

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Speaker 7: if my research is accurate.

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Speaker 5: You are correct as always on your research. Thursday, I'll

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Speaker 5: be heading out to Vegas man for pfl one. Locknane

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Speaker 5: will be fighting Marlon Maria so excited to excited to

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Speaker 5: talk to him.

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Speaker 7: Could you imagine if I didn't know where he was fighting,

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Speaker 7: if I hadn't done that research, I don't know if

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Speaker 7: we would have gotten to four hundred episodes. We are

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Speaker 7: going to recap Corey Sanhagen's big win over Marlon Cheeto Vera,

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Speaker 7: talk about all that means for the one hundred and

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Speaker 7: thirty five pound division and we'll see what comes of

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Speaker 7: all of that, And just personally been a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a crazy week. Want to thank all the fighters

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Speaker 7: and all of the mixed maschall lots fans for their support,

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Speaker 7: and I think you know what I mean on that front.

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Speaker 7: So let us get into Corey Sandhagen, and this is

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Speaker 7: one of the more interesting fights for me to dissect

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Speaker 7: with my guy Kenny Florian, who by the way, abstained

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Speaker 7: from making a main events selection so longtime Tampa Bay

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Speaker 7: Ray now Arizona diamondback Evan Longoria, who has made millions

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Speaker 7: of dollars playing Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 6: God love him.

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Speaker 7: One of my dear friends. Now big UFC fan, listens

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Speaker 7: to this show every week. He says, here too, four

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Speaker 7: on the main event challenge, Kenny, it's okay for you

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Speaker 7: to not pick a fight, but he says he needs

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Speaker 7: you to pick the main event, and I think he's

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Speaker 7: kind of right, right, Like I do think a lot

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Speaker 7: of people they have action on the main event, and

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Speaker 7: when you didn't give a pick last week, I think

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Speaker 7: a lot of people felt short change.

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Speaker 6: What do you think about the name?

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Speaker 5: Hey, that's fair. That is absolutely fair, and here too.

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Speaker 6: Four. I will not avoid main events. I listen, You're

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Speaker 6: absolutely right.

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Speaker 5: You know, those are the fights that most people are

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Speaker 5: looking forward to, whether it's a fight night or pay

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Speaker 5: per view. So I totally understand that that viewpoint, and

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Speaker 5: I will change that. I will change my ways. I

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Speaker 5: think you're right, and will I will not do that anymore.

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Speaker 7: See what we do here, listener. However, high profile Evan

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Speaker 7: Longoria chimes in, we consider the request and it affects change.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just it's not a one way street

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Speaker 7: here on the anticanmploring potdcast. But part of the reason

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Speaker 7: why I'm excited to talk to you about a fight

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Speaker 7: like this is because I know you admire both of

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Speaker 7: these athletes. And there's a lot to unpack here, a

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Speaker 7: lot on the cheeto side, right, But Corey Sandhagen Man,

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Speaker 7: and I'm going to read directly from his Instagram page

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Speaker 7: if you didn't see the fight split decision for Corey

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Speaker 7: Sandhagen over Marlin Cheetoverra and that's another conversation fifty to

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Speaker 7: I'll open it up to you, Ken Flow, this one

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Speaker 7: felt like I was surfing on the clouds, all energies

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Speaker 7: So awake to it all. I love this sport. Sounds

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Speaker 7: like something you could have written yourself in your prime,

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow, What do you make of Corey Sandhagen ending

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Speaker 5: You're in that state of flow, and there's nothing better,

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Speaker 5: It seems like everything is just effortless, and it seemed

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Speaker 5: he won every single round. Really, you know, there were

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Speaker 5: the way that he was moving out there was the difference.

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Speaker 5: Israel Asanya Bolkanovski. You know, it adds such an other

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Speaker 6: So I was blown away by Cory san Haagen's performance.

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Speaker 7: Vera was trying to jump out a guillotine. Ryan Hall,

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Speaker 7: Ryan Hall was in his corner. You know that Cheeto

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Speaker 7: And why was he seemingly in no danger whatsoever early

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Speaker 6: He's been putting in the work.

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Speaker 5: He's been putting in the work both he said, you know,

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Speaker 5: being humbled by al Jamaine Sterling. I think was a

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Speaker 5: And people forget, you know, everyone talks about, you know,

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Speaker 5: really putting in the work. His grappling has got so

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Speaker 5: much better. And as a fighter, you always have to

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Speaker 5: the mistakes that you make out there in fixing them

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Speaker 5: and clearly Corey Sanhagen has fixed a lot of those

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Speaker 5: issues with grappling, because I think grappling was responsible for

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Speaker 7: So we've had both of these athletes on the show.

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Speaker 7: We've had Cheeto Vera on the show multiple times, and

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Speaker 7: there's going to be some criticism obviously coming his way

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Speaker 7: today just based upon this performance. And I don't quite

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Speaker 7: understand as technically nor as deeply as you do why

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Speaker 7: he didn't necessarily go for it until the fifth round.

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Speaker 7: But I want to talk about rounds one and two

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Speaker 7: and particularly the ground stuff gets back to the corner

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Speaker 7: and Jason Pirillo's like, what's going on on the ground, Like,

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Speaker 7: you're not you're not fighting, You're not grappling. He very much,

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Speaker 7: to me, looked like he was just in training, fighting

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Speaker 7: off of his back. I've never known Cheeto to be

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Speaker 7: so inurgent on the ground.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was funny.

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Speaker 5: You know, Chino's good on the ground, man, He's a

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Speaker 5: good Brazilian jitsu black belt. But you know, if you

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Speaker 6: It's crazy.

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Speaker 6: And I'm sure Cheetah would probably say the same thing.

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Speaker 7: Corey Sandhagen's skill for skill, you can argue is the

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Speaker 7: But Corey I always think has insight when he speaks

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Speaker 5: You know, san Haagen has made the right moves, He's

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Speaker 7: we congratulate on a huge effort. On the other side,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, listen, this is gonna happen, especially if you

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Speaker 7: Have the inside lane on that. Corey Sandhagen really quick

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Speaker 7: A lot of people felt short short changed by that

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Speaker 7: So do you how would you handicap what I'm getting

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Speaker 7: he talks, the way he carries himself. I mean, he's

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Speaker 7: a little bit less of a dick than dom but

433
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Speaker 7: he shades of Cruz at the podium and even with

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Speaker 7: some of the movement. Congrats of Cory Sandhagen.

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Speaker 6: Really good, dude.

436
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Speaker 7: What'd you make of the co main event Holly Holm

437
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Speaker 7: over Yana Santos Pretty clear unanimous decision thirty twenty seven

438
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Speaker 7: times two thirty to twenty six from the third judge

439
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Speaker 7: and Holly Holm at forty one years of age nothing

440
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Speaker 7: if not dominant. I know she didn't get the finish

441
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Speaker 7: that she sought, but she looked great.

442
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Speaker 6: I thought, oh, you mean Holly Holm the grappler. I mean,

443
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Speaker 6: how about that?

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Speaker 5: That was pretty cool seeing those takedowns and her ability

445
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Speaker 5: to really dominate on the ground was passing the guard

446
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Speaker 5: with ease. She's clearly showing that she is way more

447
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Speaker 5: comfortable now in the grappling realm, in her ability to

448
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Speaker 5: control and mix up ground and pound and mix up

449
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Speaker 5: her long range strikes to get on the inside. I

450
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Speaker 5: thought it was a very smart performance from her. What

451
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Speaker 5: she forty one years old, is that correct? And seeing

452
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Speaker 5: her go out there and execute like she did there

453
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Speaker 5: against Janna Santos, what was a pleasure to watch.

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Speaker 6: Man.

455
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Speaker 5: Not a whole lot of people have that level of longevity,

456
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Speaker 5: and people forget that she was a multiple time boxing

457
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Speaker 5: world champion and to still be going at it and

458
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Speaker 5: doing it at that level was awesome. I loved everything

459
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Speaker 5: about the fight. What she said after the fight, She's impressive.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: She's only a couple of fights over five hundred in

462
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Speaker 7: the UFC, but she had a huge swing fight against

463
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Speaker 7: Germaine durandomy early twenty seventeen, and had she won that fight,

464
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Speaker 7: she would have become the first she would have become

465
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Speaker 7: the first two division champion in UFC women's history. She's

466
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Speaker 7: already going to be the first boxing and UFC Hall

467
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Speaker 7: of Famer. Henry Sahudo I don't think is in the

468
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Speaker 7: well that'd be wrestling, but I don't think that. I

469
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Speaker 7: don't think there's any doubt that Holly Holm is going

470
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Speaker 7: to get a UFC Hall of Fame nod to go

471
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Speaker 7: with her International Boxing Hall of Fame nod. But yeah,

472
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Speaker 7: I mean she really is the ultimate competitor in so

473
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Speaker 7: many respects. And you know, I'm a broken record when

474
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Speaker 7: it comes to an appetite for training and no negative

475
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Speaker 7: emotional response to training whatsoever. It's just built for this,

476
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Speaker 7: all about that life. No children, let's go.

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Speaker 6: Has she ever looked like she's out of shape?

478
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Speaker 5: I mean she looks like she now even she looks

479
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Speaker 5: at she's in shape, she looks like she's in insane shape.

480
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Speaker 5: And every single fight that's dedication, that's consistency.

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Speaker 7: And she's still right there at thirty five. I mean,

482
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Speaker 7: this is not gonna get her title fight, but this

483
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Speaker 7: is she's still right there. And I gotta say about

484
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Speaker 7: Yana kunitskay A Santo's right, how tough man? Just how

485
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Speaker 7: much tougher is she than me?

486
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Speaker 6: That's doubt for it.

487
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you see Nathan train Land where pretty easy. Gotta

488
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Speaker 7: do what I would think over over Austin Lingo there

489
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Speaker 7: by the rear naked choke. What are your thoughts on

490
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Speaker 7: the uh the emerging force Nate the train.

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Speaker 6: He's fun man, he's fun. He's fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: Every time I see him fight, I just kind of

493
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Speaker 5: giggle inside and just be like, man, this guy is

494
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Speaker 5: a beast.

495
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Speaker 6: He's fun, he's fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: He's got some skills, man, and he is as tough

497
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Speaker 5: as they come. I think there's gonna be some bigger

498
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Speaker 5: fights out there for him in the future.

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Speaker 6: He continues to entertain, continues to execute.

500
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Speaker 5: Very well, racking up those wins, and I can watch

501
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Speaker 5: Nathan Train fight all the time.

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Speaker 7: Man, Macy Barber over Andrea Lee. Some people had it

503
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Speaker 7: the other way. It was a split decision win for

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Speaker 7: Macy Barber. There are a lot of people out there

505
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Speaker 7: in the scoring space. Aaron Bronstetter sean, shean very adamant

506
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Speaker 7: about certain rounds and how this fight was scored. You know,

507
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Speaker 7: I still have my issues when it comes to effective

508
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Speaker 7: grappling and how we are supposed to interpret what constitutes

509
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Speaker 7: effective grappling. Largely, I agree right that Macy Barber deserved

510
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Speaker 7: round one because when Andrea Lee got the takedown, really

511
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Speaker 7: didn't have duration, necessarily wasn't dominant, no damage was doled out.

512
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Speaker 7: But I do believe in a broad scope this fight

513
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Speaker 7: is another example of damage and effective striking reigning supreme

514
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Speaker 7: over effective grappling.

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Speaker 6: At least in twenty twenty three. Yeah, I'm with you

516
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Speaker 6: on that.

517
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because we're hanging out all

518
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Speaker 5: the time we talk about these fights, but we definitely

519
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 5: share similar views on this, and I think you got

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Speaker 5: it right there. I think also there's something to be

521
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Speaker 5: said about, you know, the faces you make during a fight,

522
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Speaker 5: your body lane, which you know, I think those also

523
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 5: help a lot to score a fight, you know. And

524
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Speaker 5: Andy Lee, even when she was in side control, she

525
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 5: had like one arm tied behind her back in some

526
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: kind of funky move that Macy Barbara was trying to hit.

527
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Speaker 5: She never even looked comfortable even when she was in

528
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Speaker 5: these you know, what are known as dominant positions from

529
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Speaker 5: side control, but she wasn't doing anything with it, and

530
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Speaker 5: I think that's what was hurting her. In this one.

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Speaker 5: Macy Barbara was just a little bit more active, you know,

532
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Speaker 5: just her body language seemed a little bit more confident

533
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Speaker 5: out there, you know. Unfortunately I didn't watch it for

534
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Speaker 5: a second time to really score it with a keen eye.

535
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Speaker 5: But I don't have a problem with Barbara at all

536
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Speaker 5: winning that fight. But I do agree with you in

537
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Speaker 5: regards to what effective grappling is what are we talking about?

538
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 5: Are we talking about your ability to control? Are we

539
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 5: talking about your ability to attack with multiple submissions? Are

540
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: we talking about my ability to control you from position

541
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Speaker 5: and use ground?

542
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Speaker 6: Didn't pound?

543
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Speaker 5: So I think a judge, and I think rightfully so

544
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Speaker 5: should defor should defer to the kind of damage that

545
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Speaker 5: you that you can create on the ground, whether it's

546
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 5: on the on your back, or on top. I think

547
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: that's going to play a major factor because if you're

548
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: just sitting there holding someone down that's not going to

549
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: win the fight. You're not doing anything to that person

550
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Speaker 5: to take away their will from winning that fight or

551
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Speaker 5: damaging them in any way mentally, physically or spiritually. You

552
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 5: have to land damaging stuff from there. So combining the

553
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Speaker 5: ability to let's say, pass guard and smash the guard

554
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: with punches and elbows, I think is huge for people

555
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Speaker 5: right now in today's UFC.

556
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Speaker 7: I think our production assistant Will Berger should cut up

557
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Speaker 7: those last ninety seconds analytically out of you. Did you

558
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 7: microdos on mushrooms before the program?

559
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Speaker 6: I did not.

560
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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, Gus on fire today. This guy is absolutely on fire,

561
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Speaker 7: and I did want to ask you. We have Ray

562
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Speaker 7: Longo but we don't pay you enough. By the way,

563
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 7: to go back watch Macy Barber Andrea Lee twice. I

564
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 7: thought it was a great fight. I really admire both women,

565
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 7: and I really think they're both tough. And I love

566
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 7: Macy barbera at the post fight presser, and I thought

567
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 7: Andrea Lee fought valiantly in her home state. But we

568
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 7: don't pay you enough money. I mean, you got enough

569
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 7: going on you like you know you go back and

570
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 7: watch that fight twice. All right, let's uh, let's get

571
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Speaker 7: to the Ray Longo.

572
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Speaker 1: Man, it's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

573
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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna push a hole in this fucking chefs.

574
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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted, the Ray Longo Minute the John

575
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Speaker 1: Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Hey, can you do what I do? Just wing it?

577
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Speaker 9: What are you going back and looking at fights for?

578
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: Look?

579
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Speaker 6: You and I got nothing better to do. Ray? What's up?

580
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 6: You look a little sweaty there.

581
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Speaker 2: Oh I'm freaking. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm

582
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: hanging in there. What's up, guys? Another? Well?

583
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 9: Back in the shitter again with these guys. How was

584
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 9: the he happened?

585
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: This weekend?

586
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 6: I was talking about you today, right right, you're still

587
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: holding back? How old are you? And are you still

588
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 6: holding pads for all? Like? What weight are you? Like?

589
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 6: You know what? I'm not holding pats for you?

590
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Uh oh wait wait wise, no above above one fifty

591
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: five not good anymore, you know. So I'm gonna I'm

592
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: gonna be sixty five. I'll call Gal Joe's back in town.

593
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Speaker 2: I'll give him a couple of rounds. Not what I

594
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: used to beat. I'll tell you one thing. If I

595
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: get my hip fixed, I'm I'm better than I was

596
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: ten years ago. Because mentally I feel great. It's just

597
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: that I can't do the movement I want. But I'm

598
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: still taking a beat, and.

599
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Speaker 5: You're a savage. I was holding pads for a dude

600
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty eight pounds. Shout out to Ben Cash,

601
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty eight pounder, And dude, my whole

602
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: body is sore as hell. My elbows are killing me,

603
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: my legs, my back. I didn't really grapple or do anything.

604
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: It's just I'm sore's house, so I can't. You're a beat,

605
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: I tell you.

606
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Speaker 2: You know. You know what's funny, Like there's a couple

607
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: of fighters that you know, they'll do a couple of privates,

608
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: make some sidekish they hold one time to I'm not

609
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: doing it again.

610
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Speaker 6: I'm like one.

611
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Speaker 2: No every day, I literally hold every day. No, No,

612
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Speaker 2: it's right. Think I'm just used to. My shoulders do

613
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: hurt a little bit. But yeah, I don't know. It

614
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: is what it is.

615
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 9: What are you gonna do?

616
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 6: John?

617
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Speaker 2: You gotta get running water to never go stale? Baby,

618
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: we just got.

619
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Speaker 7: To you look like you're in a caloric deficit today,

620
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 7: that's for sure.

621
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Speaker 9: Really, so what do we need to do?

622
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: What do we need to do to fix this hip?

623
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: No?

624
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 9: I need a hip replacement. I had the I had

625
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 9: the PRP shot about two months ago.

626
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: Nothing.

627
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Speaker 9: Really, I don't know a hip replacement.

628
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Speaker 8: Hip replacement?

629
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 7: And uh all right, well Anikemploring Podcast certainly happy to

630
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 7: sponsor any sort of hip replacement if we need.

631
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Speaker 6: To get that done.

632
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 7: But no, I mean anything you can do to continue

633
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 7: your career as a medium mogul when you don't have

634
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Speaker 7: to hit pats let me tell you.

635
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's that's the other thing. I don't

636
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: even know what I'm doing anywhore.

637
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Speaker 9: It seemed like you.

638
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 7: Were you were going to lead the Dance with uh

639
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 7: with some issues with the judges instead of talking about

640
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 7: Corey Sandhagen versus may Rob Dwallace, Willie.

641
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Speaker 2: Oh Man, Well, let's there's a lot to talk about.

642
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: But first of all, the judge that scored that fight

643
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Speaker 2: for Cheeto Verre, I mean, it just doesn't get any

644
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you like again, it's how do

645
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: you look at that fight and think that guy won?

646
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: The fight? Is insane to me. And I'll tell you

647
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: if the guy thinks he's going by the judging criteria,

648
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: then change the fucking criteria, because I don't know what

649
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: that I don't know what to say. That guy Santa

650
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: can put on a beautiful, masterful performance and to have

651
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Speaker 2: to stand in the center of that octagon and the

652
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: first thought they read is that the other guy won

653
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: has got to be so disturbing that I'm just glad

654
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: you know he's a grounded, nice kid man, because what

655
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: a great performance. And man, if you're listening, I had

656
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: that like Salamadol, I had a fifty forty five. If

657
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to be leaning, maybe forty nine forty six.

658
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: But I was kind of scoring the fight when you

659
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: know with Aljoe, like on the on the phone, I go,

660
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: dud these this is a shutout. Like I don't know,

661
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: I think Alja wanted to give them one round after

662
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: the first three. Maybe I forget I have to go

663
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: back and look. But I'm like, just he's not doing anything.

664
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 10: You know.

665
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: It's like the guy we were talking about in the gym,

666
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: and there's the one theory is that the guy did

667
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: so little in the first two rounds that the first

668
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: time he did anything, he lands on one to two

669
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: and everybody's going crazy, look at it. What the hell?

670
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you think that guy won the fight?

671
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not going to

672
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: go on another rant because I've been doing this for

673
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: like ten years. I'm getting sick of myself. But I

674
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: think you got to start looking at the commissions now,

675
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: because if you look at the commissions and who's judging

676
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: for these commissions, I think you're going to find something

677
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: that you know will help you, you know, maybe get

678
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the problem, because they it's not

679
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: even the judges now that have to be held accountable.

680
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: It's the commissions that put these guys in there. And

681
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: there's a lot I'm not saying nepotism, but a lot

682
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: of friendship stuff, which I get. Man, I would do

683
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: the same thing, I guess, but it's it's not going

684
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: to the to the proper guy. It's going to the

685
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: guy and who they like, who they have a relationship with.

686
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: It's I think you look into the commissions and who

687
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: they using all the time, You'll come up with a

688
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: lot of good stuff.

689
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 7: I'd said to Kenny off the air before the show,

690
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 7: I shouldn't even take this on the air, but I said,

691
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 7: maybe I need to find a new sport. At times,

692
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 7: I feel like with my issues with the criteria and

693
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 7: how after these shows it doesn't even become about the

694
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 7: martial arts.

695
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 6: It becomes about.

696
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 7: Scoring and judging and criteria and misinterpretation and open to interpretation.

697
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 7: And I agree with you. For Corey Sandhagen even have

698
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 7: to stand there and deal with that. Like if I'm

699
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 7: Bruce Buffer, if I've been watching the fight and not

700
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 7: fucking hobnobbing with everybody, if I've actually watched the fight,

701
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: I probably take the liberty even if I'm not supposed

702
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 7: to do it and read the fifty to forty five

703
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 7: san Haagen first or the forty nine to forty six

704
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 7: Sandhagen first, just so he can understand that one person

705
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 7: actually understood what the fuck they watched court.

706
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, And if I'm Bruce Buffy, you know

707
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 9: what I do.

708
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: I read the forty eight forty seven for Sandtagen.

709
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 9: I just go right above the guy.

710
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: And who who's going to say anything That idiot's gonna

711
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: come out and say I didn't score a fight like that.

712
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 9: He's getting crucified. That's what I got.

713
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: Just what I got out of all this is that

714
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: Annik thinks that Bruce Buffer hob knobs during the fight.

715
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: That's Bruce Brucey. Listen. Kenny Brocey is the best.

716
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 9: Forget that time we like him. There's no like Australia.

717
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: When we were hanging out like by at the airport,

718
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: he goes flying bias like flying, and Kenny goes Bruce

719
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: loves Bruce.

720
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 6: Hey I did. I'm just gonna say no.

721
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: He's a great guy though, but he's uh, you know, look,

722
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something, John, I'm with you

723
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: when you get to the point where the sport that

724
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: you absolutely love starts to make you question certain things

725
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: and go, well, it's just it's like a lot of things.

726
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't know why people aren't jumping

727
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: on the vandwigon and doing something about it. I think

728
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: that's where I get frustrated. I mean, there's just so

729
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: many known characters that just shouldn't be around that nobody cares.

730
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know, but that that was pretty bad.

731
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 7: So al Jamine Sterling was standing next to Marob Dwallas

732
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 7: Willy and you can read Aljoe's lips just saying that's

733
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 7: perfect right the way all of this played out, Because

734
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 7: Morob needs a dance partner at least right now. Henry

735
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 7: Shudo beats your guy in seven eight weeks, so Whodo's

736
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 7: not going to turn around and fight Morob at twelve

737
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 7: weeks thereafter? Right right, Corey Sanagen Morob Dwallish Willy as

738
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 7: a main event just makes a ton of sense as

739
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 7: a true title eliminator. And yeah, based upon what we

740
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 7: saw this weekend, what are your what's your appetite for

741
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 7: cornering against Cory Sanahagen?

742
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Again? Well, first off, if you if you notice, those

743
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: guys just came from an audition for the Mod Squad.

744
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: They're trying out, they're doing a mod Squad three. I

745
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: don't know what he's even looking at, but I thought

746
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: it was. I thought it was hilarious. Uh man, great fight.

747
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: And you know I always had Corey pegged as the guy,

748
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: like four or five years ago, like this guy he

749
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: gotta watch out for. So so much respect for San Haigan,

750
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: love his attitude, love his look on you know, his

751
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: outlook on things. I thought the call out was you know, appropriate,

752
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: nice and it'll be a great fight, man, That's all.

753
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 9: That's all I can say. It would be a great fight.

754
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: Morob. You could see how to talk about being amped up.

755
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: I mean he's just happy somebody mentioned his name. I

756
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: mean it was great. I mean that's that is.

757
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: Name.

758
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean organic and sincere.

759
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 9: He was like, holy shit, man, you gotta be let's go.

760
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: Let's I think he would have did it like you're

761
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: talking about tomorrow we jump in there, you know, but uh,

762
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: what a great fight that would be. What I love

763
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: about that fight is, you know, he spars Aljoe all

764
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: the time. If anybody has similar movement and uh attributes

765
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: like Sanhagan has its alja, so it's not something he's

766
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 2: going to be unused to. I thought the Yon fight

767
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: was going to be tougher because he's such a terminy

768
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: to come and forward and he hits hard. You know,

769
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: I think Corey did what he had to do. I

770
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: really thought he just fought beautifully. I can't say enough

771
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: about that. But I don't know if he'll be able

772
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: to hurt Morob, and I think that's going to be

773
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: the difference in the fight. You know, he kind of

774
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: pity pats for his style still great. You know, he

775
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: still can land some big shots, but you know, Morob,

776
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: you gotta really get him out of there. And man,

777
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: what an exciting fight.

778
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 7: I just love that Morob Dwallas Willie is the name

779
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 7: on the tip of somebody's tongue, and he's done it

780
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 7: all organically, all the right way. And I'm not going

781
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 7: to go down the road of his zero to two

782
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 7: UFC start again, right, but like you can be sure

783
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 7: after he beats Pyotr Jan Dennis Bezuoka and some of

784
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: his other teammates are like, yeah, I mean, I'm not

785
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 7: going to get into it, but like you should be

786
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 7: fucking eleven to zero the UFC and she probably probably

787
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 7: should have his flowers and might even have a belt

788
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 7: by now if his teammate wasn't the champion, So yes,

789
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 7: agree doesn't even begin to describe it. He's a credit

790
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 7: to his nation, to the sport, to your gym, and uh,

791
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 7: it's just great to see him start to get his flowers.

792
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: So yeah, and John as we move, I mean, I'm

793
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: just so happy and.

794
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 6: I'll go blackout.

795
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Oh So I'm so happy the way they're handling their friendship,

796
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: I really am. I think it just you know, speaks volumes,

797
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: and I think as time goes on, people really appreciate

798
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: what they did and how they held their ground. And uh,

799
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: they're both gonna do great. They're gonna get what they want.

800
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 9: They were already.

801
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: I think what people don't realize if it ended tomorrow.

802
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: They're both really happy, satisfied, grateful, And that's a great

803
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: position to be it because then you can't be bought,

804
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, it's not like you're

805
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: coming up and blah blah blah. These guys are really

806
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: just in a great spot, like having a great time.

807
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: And you know, now Morob's confidences. I thought it was

808
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: crazy before this. After the on fight, you could see

809
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: he's got a little different swagger. He's got the sunglasses,

810
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: on you know, like again, he came from humble beginnings,

811
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: from nothing. He's at the big show. He's enjoying himself.

812
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: This is this is an American dream. This is awesome.

813
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they both are going to have financial freedom

814
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 7: and hopefully they take care of their chief corner Ray Longa.

815
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: But out of know those guys, I've got no complaints

816
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: with either of them. They are they do it.

817
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 6: Sounds like some other guys don't pay it, though, Huh.

818
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: Everybody does the right thing.

819
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: I got a great look.

820
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: I've been blessed, but really really great guys starting with Sarah. No, no,

821
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: not a not a complaint out of me in the world.

822
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 9: I'm just in the spot there and I'm grateful for

823
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 9: everything I have.

824
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: And if it stopped tomorrow, I'm fine and it's all good.

825
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 6: So justin the kid Montavo pays on time.

826
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 7: That's for goddamn sure, the kid.

827
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 6: What about the Quiet Man? What about the quiet Man?

828
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: So we got look, we have Anthony de len Me,

829
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: the Quiet Man, and the Kid will fighting this weekend,

830
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 2: two on this same night, and one you know, one

831
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: too Friday, one Saturday. I'll be in California. Obviously, I

832
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: wish I could be everywhere at the same time, but

833
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: that's not happening. So uh yeah, we got some big

834
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: fights for him.

835
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: What was that?

836
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: Who's fighting in California? Which fight is that? You're going

837
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 6: to the Belotore fight?

838
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's justin Montabo against I think Archie Colgan.

839
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: I think his first term is really tough fight. Man,

840
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: it's going to be a great fight.

841
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 6: All right.

842
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 9: Who Well, what else?

843
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: What other disasters were there?

844
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 7: Well, there was a disaster at Fury FC the night

845
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 7: preceding this event, Kenny, do you know what we're talking about?

846
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: No?

847
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: Oh, Kenny, go ahead, Ray please scary Kenny.

848
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 9: The guy I think was he was put to sleep

849
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 9: in a triangle.

850
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 5: Oh I did see that, and then he then he

851
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 5: got the armlock after he's like breaking the dudes.

852
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 6: I did say that, Benny.

853
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine being unconscious, dude and having a guy

854
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: snapping your own.

855
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 6: He literally woke up and someone's just like breaking his arm.

856
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: I mean that was bad.

857
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: It's hard to watch.

858
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 6: Really was a wad.

859
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 9: And then they could that guy as a judge the

860
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 9: next night.

861
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is insane.

862
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 9: Allude to the Texas Commission sheets.

863
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 7: So there was another fight that we didn't get to.

864
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 7: But Kenny and I were talking about it before we

865
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 7: hopped on the air. Albert Durayev over Cheaty and Jakawani

866
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 7: by split and close fight, but Kenny and I both

867
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 7: had it for Cheaty and Jikwani. Kenflow, you thought that Cheaty,

868
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 7: based upon our interpretation, did enough to win.

869
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I thought it was clear. I thought it was

870
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 6: clear for in Chikawani. I don't know. I mean, it's

871
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 6: very confusing.

872
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: It's very confusing if you're a coach, if you're a commentator,

873
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 5: if you're a fighter. I mean, if I was a

874
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 5: fighter right now and I fought that night and I

875
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: saw that, you know that Duriah won, I would I

876
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 5: would be shaking in my boots. Now what the hell

877
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: do I gotta do? I gotta kill this guy in

878
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 5: front of me to show that I want? I mean,

879
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: it is uh, it was a little disturbing. I'll be

880
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 5: honest with you. I get fights can be close, but

881
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 5: they can also be clear. And I thought this was

882
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 5: a clear win for En Jikawani, and I don't know. Again,

883
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: I feel bad for Cheati, who is gonna have that

884
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: l by his name for the rest of his life,

885
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 5: and you know what, in six months a year, everyone

886
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: forgets about what happens during the fight, you know, or

887
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 5: or further.

888
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: You know. It's just it's gonna be an l.

889
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: And that affects not only his pay that night, but

890
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 5: it affects the fights that he could potentially get in

891
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 5: the future. So, uh, it just has that snowball effect,

892
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: and I feel really bad.

893
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 6: I thought it was pretty clear Fenchikwani Man.

894
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that I watched literally as a fan.

895
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna say I watched the whole fight.

896
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: I I it didn't jump at me like that, you know,

897
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: but I can't really I don't know what I'm thinking

898
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: about that. I think after the Cheetoh thing, I think

899
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: I think that judge saved everybody from going back to

900
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: that was so right, you.

901
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 9: Know, like even the Andrea Leap Barba fight was close.

902
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 6: U right. I believe Dan Hergliatta was judging that fight.

903
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: And is that normal to judge in and jump in

904
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: as a ref I mean, well funny.

905
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 7: I mean I actually think, you know, I get told

906
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 7: all the time by John McCarthy and others that they're

907
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 7: only eight or so elite judges in the world. These

908
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 7: refs have a pretty keen eye. I am not suggestive

909
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 7: that he should be the guy, but I think you

910
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 7: can do worse. You can do a lot worse than

911
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 7: having Jason Herzog turn around and sit in that chair.

912
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 6: You know.

913
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, or I'd like to see that.

914
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 7: I would too, I would love to see that. Hey,

915
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about Leon Edwards. Can I

916
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 7: ask you about Leon Edwards? Because of course Griffin was

917
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 7: on the show last week and was sort of intimating

918
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 7: that he doesn't like that a champion gets to call

919
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 7: their shot, and he wasn't referring to Leon specifically, but

920
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 7: we've had a lot of champions try to call their shot,

921
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: and Israel lot of Sonia is the best in the

922
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 7: world because he perpetually asked for the guy who is

923
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: the CONTENTSUS toughest fight and the number one contender. That

924
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 7: isn't always the case. Now, Leon Edwards doesn't care about

925
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 7: Kolbe Covington's wrestling. That's not why he doesn't want to

926
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 7: fight him. He didn't want to fight him because he

927
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 7: hasn't competed and he doesn't believe that Colby, in a meritocracy,

928
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 7: has earned a championship opportunity?

929
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 6: Where do you stand on all of that?

930
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 7: I know Al Jamaine Sterling has been intermixed in some

931
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 7: of that at times. Where do you stand in terms

932
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 7: of how much a champion should be able to call

933
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 7: their shot? In terms of who is the number one contenter?

934
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 10: Uh?

935
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, man, that's tricky because who is the

936
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: number one contender? That's where it gets crazy, like they

937
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: do you have faith in who the number one contender is?

938
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 9: Like?

939
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: Does Kobe deserve that shot? Do we all think Kobe

940
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: deserves that shot? So? I don't even know if it's

941
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: so much Leon calling his own shots as much as

942
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: it is Leon saying I don't call the shots, but

943
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: that guy definitely doesn't deserve to fight, you know what

944
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying? And you know I don't know.

945
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 7: I mean, well, Dana White came out and said it's

946
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 7: gonna be Colby right, that he had that altercation with

947
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 7: Moss feed all and he served as the backup, and

948
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 7: Dana White's gonna control who gets the championship opportunity exactly.

949
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 7: Edwards has come out and said that he's not gonna

950
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 7: sign a contract to fight Kobe sou Something's got to

951
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 7: give and usually in that tug of war, kendflow smirking

952
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 7: because he knows promoter usually wins.

953
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm gonna go out on a limit. Say it's

954
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: not gonna be Colby.

955
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 6: Wow.

956
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say the guy holds his ground or they

957
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: really make it worth his while to fight, and I

958
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: think that's probably you gotta remember it. There's a lot

959
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: of posturing in this business. John, So he comes out

960
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: and says, I'm not going to fight this guy. Next thing,

961
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's I'll give you another five hundred ground.

962
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 8: Yeah right, rout.

963
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we blocked out again, but you know.

964
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 6: What I'm saying.

965
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: So I think there's you got to realize everybody's juggling

966
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: for more money and just like, uh, you know Kobe's

967
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: out in that way. First, let me address one thing

968
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: with you and Kobe too. If I hear one more

969
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: person say it's just an act, stop with it. I

970
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: don't have a fuck if it's an act. Like again,

971
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: we had a count. You do have young kids, right,

972
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: and an eleven year old and a twelve year old.

973
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: They don't have the defense mechanisms to determine if it's

974
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: an act or not. So you can have your fucking act,

975
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: but leave the fucking kids out of it. You're a

976
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: fucking complete idiot. And just for people saying it's an

977
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: act and yeah, you don't give a shit. We know

978
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: the guys a joke.

979
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 9: He ain't shown up, yes, But for your kids to even.

980
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: Be remotely remotely affected by that, John and when my

981
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: kids were young, I was really overprotective, that's a goddamn shame.

982
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: And I don't care if it's an act or not.

983
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: Get your act together and change it then, but just

984
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: clean off a different thing. And for that alone, he

985
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: doesn't get the title shot. How's that?

986
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 6: Well? Thank you?

987
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'm sort of it's sort of weird

988
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 7: for me to be sort of thrust into the middle

989
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 7: of all the promotion, right, And there's two sides of it.

990
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 7: I mean, certainly, uh, you know, I don't really feel

991
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 7: like there's any sort of legitimate threat there. But yes,

992
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 7: my eleven year old daughter obviously is going to come

993
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 7: across that SoundBite, either on Snapchat or somewhere else, and

994
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to.

995
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 6: Have a conversation.

996
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 7: So no, I think even Colby would admit to me

997
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 7: privately that he crossed the line. But no, I appreciate

998
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 7: your I mean support from the collective and.

999
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 10: No, because I just like, well, I tell you, kids

1000
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 10: don't know what's in act. Like, I don't imagine somebody

1001
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 10: tells your daughter, you know, there's a guy you're going

1002
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 10: to be fatherless.

1003
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: How's that going over? Right?

1004
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 10: Right?

1005
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 8: No? No, I think my kids are in their twenties.

1006
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 10: If somebody told them that, they'd be have an anxiety attack,

1007
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, Like, that's what.

1008
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 8: You want to do to a kid.

1009
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 10: All right, tough guy, good job, really good, good, good

1010
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 10: call on that one.

1011
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 8: Well, thanks, thank you man, anything.

1012
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 7: And blackout Kenny has I'm can you hear me?

1013
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 8: I know, yes, God when when I started hearing that having.

1014
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, I keep getting the Skype notifications for some reason.

1015
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 10: I don't know why.

1016
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1017
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're on your yard.

1018
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: And which is weird.

1019
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 8: Well, hey, I appreciate because this is absolutely.

1020
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 10: Oh man, we got to leave on a bad note,

1021
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 10: all right, No, no, no, I'll let you guys go.

1022
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 10: You know, it's almost like you feel like guys are

1023
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 10: trying to get ready and you.

1024
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Go, no, no, no, I'll come back.

1025
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 10: Definitely not I'm leaving guys.

1026
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 6: Look, man, it's been great.

1027
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: I hope.

1028
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 10: I hope the judging gets squared away some some in

1029
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 10: the next decade.

1030
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: And uh, that's it.

1031
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 10: I got nothing else to say. Hats off the core

1032
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 10: and look forward to the fight with Morob and great

1033
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 10: call out, honorable call out and man five zero beautiful performance.

1034
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 10: I hope that judge doesn't affect your day one bit.

1035
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 10: Luck Asta la vista, guys. Thanks.

1036
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 7: All right, there he is and just like that, all

1037
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 7: the audio issues go away.

1038
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 6: Am I wrong? It sounds perfect now?

1039
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, So I appreciate raised support and again

1040
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 7: from the fan base on the Colby Covington thing. Now,

1041
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 7: when I first saw it, and I didn't plan to

1042
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 7: address it, but Ray brought it up, so I'm just

1043
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 7: going to adjus it really quickly. So I didn't really

1044
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 7: think much of it when I first saw the clip,

1045
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 7: right because I just see it as Kolby Covington in character.

1046
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 7: He and I have always been on good terms. All

1047
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 7: I did, as far as I was concerned, was give

1048
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 7: Bala Muhammad a platform on the anticonflor and podcast YouTube

1049
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 7: channel to state his case because I do believe in

1050
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 7: a meritocracy that below Muhammad is the number one contender deserves.

1051
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 6: The championship opportunity, and that's it, right.

1052
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: But obviously my phone started bl up last Tuesday, something

1053
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 7: that I had never experienced before, and so I understood

1054
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 7: maybe the gravity of this perceived threat. Now Colby and

1055
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 7: I have since connected privately. Obviously for my kids, that's

1056
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 7: a discussion that'll be had at a later point in time.

1057
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 7: But basically, I have to look at it in two

1058
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 7: different ways, Kenny. First, I have to see if I've

1059
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 7: said or done something that upset the athlete, right, separate

1060
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 7: that from whatever venom is coming his way that might

1061
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 7: be unkind to my wife or children, or my kids

1062
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 7: growing up without a dad.

1063
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 6: Right.

1064
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 7: So first I have to determine if I've said something

1065
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 7: either analytically on the post show or on the pay

1066
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 7: per view that has set him off. And when I

1067
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 7: determined that that wasn't the case, then I can move

1068
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 7: on and deal with the second part of it. And

1069
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 7: you know, I understand that Ray and a lot of

1070
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 7: people are upset that the act could cross a line

1071
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 7: like this, But I don't know, man, I'm just so conditioned.

1072
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 6: I guess to the noise in the fight game that I.

1073
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate this. I guess I just didn't feel

1074
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 7: particularly threatened. If Horay Motsfeedal had come at me, I

1075
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 7: would have been worried.

1076
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 5: Well, dude, I mean, you always handle handle yourself like

1077
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: a true professional man. That's why you're one of the

1078
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 5: best in the business in any sport. But yeah, it's

1079
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 5: unfortunate though, right because let's let's say he is playing

1080
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 5: a character.

1081
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 6: Keep it about you, don't.

1082
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 5: Don't keep it about anybody else when you get family involved,

1083
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 5: or you know, when you have a family member that

1084
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 5: might see that, they don't know, they don't know what's

1085
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: going on. And and Colby does play this certain persona,

1086
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 5: but I think it's important to understand when you do

1087
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 5: cross that line as as a character, as an athlete,

1088
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: as a fighter, and you know, hopefully he has reached

1089
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: out and you guys have squashed that.

1090
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Speaker 7: And if you reveal Kenflow's hometown, there's hell to pay.

1091
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, right like, you just be careful folks

1092
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 7: out there, all right. So, and Cody Merrow or executive producer,

1093
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 7: if you can clean whatever that up was with long ago,

1094
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 7: you'll be my hero forever. All right, Big things coming

1095
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 7: up for the PFL this weekend. You were off to

1096
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 7: Las Vegas. It looks like maybe the Virgin Is that right,

1097
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 7: the Virgin.

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00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 6: Right, that's right. You guys were there just a couple

1099
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 6: of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, all right.

1100
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 7: So this Saturday, Brendan Locknane Marlon made regular season opener

1101
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 7: they're calling it PFL one as the PFL featherweight champion.

1102
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 7: Brendan Locknane gets back to work. Let us get to

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 7: Brandon lockeany.

1104
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 9: Well.

1105
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 6: This is very exciting.

1106
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 7: It's very rare for us to get a guy during

1107
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 7: fight week, and especially a guy like this, a champion,

1108
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 7: a fighter on this level. This Saturday, of course, Brendan

1109
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 7: Locknane Marlon made regular season opener for the PFL live

1110
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 7: in Las Vegas, and we are now joined of course

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00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 7: by Brendon Locknane.

1112
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 6: It's good to see you brother.

1113
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 9: How you doing.

1114
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: Hey, Fanks for having me. It's about time, fellas.

1115
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 7: It is about time, and you know, we go way back.

1116
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 7: I was doing my research today and just have huge

1117
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 7: respect for your overall body of work, which we're going

1118
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 7: to get into. But Ken Flow and I were there

1119
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 7: December fifteen, twenty twelve, Gold Coast, Australia, Mike Wilkinson at

1120
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 7: the Ultimate Fighter smash this finale, and obviously you know

1121
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 7: that I've been following your career from Afar ever since

1122
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 7: and just relations man on everything. It's really cool to

1123
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 7: see you sort of in a lot of respects realize

1124
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 7: the dream become a world champion and get all the

1125
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 7: fruits that come with it.

1126
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 6: Brother.

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00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 11: I'm glad you brought that up because I was hoping

1128
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 11: you guys didn't forget that you actually did commensate together

1129
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 11: on my first UFC fight. So yeah, when I say

1130
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 11: guys have been there from the start, you guys have

1131
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 11: literally watched it from the start from there all the

1132
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 11: way through this crazy PFL journey, all the way to

1133
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 11: getting the belt and then you know, now defending the belt.

1134
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 11: So well, defending, I'm a defending I'm a champion. I

1135
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 11: don't know what I am right now. I heard that

1136
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 11: I lost it the data I want to I don't

1137
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 11: know how this works. Well you know I'm back here again,

1138
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 11: I'm in Las Vegas and we're ready to go again.

1139
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 6: Well keep you hungry, man.

1140
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No one's taking the money out of your

1141
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 7: bank account, nobody's taking the belt away. It was a

1142
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 7: huge twenty twenty two for you. Many people you were

1143
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 7: the fighter of the year. You compete in June, August,

1144
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 7: and November go into a fourth round against Bubba Jenkins

1145
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 7: before knocking him out. I guess I'm just curious how

1146
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 7: the body's holding up after the successive back to back

1147
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: to back training camps and ensuing fights.

1148
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 11: Last year funnily enough, all right, like better than it's

1149
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 11: ever been. Like I don't know, maybe it was made

1150
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 11: for tournaments, because I mean I was banged, very, very

1151
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 11: very banged up last year, Like in every one of

1152
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 11: them fights, every single one, I had a different injury.

1153
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 11: And it is a marathon, not a sprint. It's really

1154
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 11: really difficult to get through that season. I feel like

1155
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 11: I've approached it a bit different this year. I feel

1156
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 11: like I've approached it as a marathon. And I'm a

1157
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 11: veteran now I really am. And it's my third season

1158
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 11: in a row. I know how to do the quick

1159
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 11: successive fights.

1160
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 10: Now.

1161
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 11: You know, you've got to take you seven days off

1162
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 11: after and you start easing back in. You've got keep

1163
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 11: your weight low all year. There's a few different things

1164
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 11: that come into the factory. You've got to try and

1165
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 11: take as least damage as possible in each fight because

1166
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 11: this is its own entity. This isn't the UFC or

1167
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 11: bellator or yeah, have a fight. Maybe you pick up

1168
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 11: an injury, have surgery, then your next fire. You miss

1169
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 11: one date, it's over. So I'm like fighting conservative now

1170
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 11: I'm on the job, and like then when you see

1171
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 11: the final come along, I'm ready to go, like, let's

1172
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 11: fight now, because i know I've got a break after this.

1173
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: So it really is its own entity.

1174
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 5: Brendan, I want to talk about you winning the million

1175
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 5: dollars man. Has that changed any of the way that

1176
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 5: you train? Has it changed your life any in any

1177
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 5: big way?

1178
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I did ask myself this question, Kenny.

1179
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 11: I thought, you know, the silk sheets are out. Now,

1180
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 11: I'm like, I'm still gonna be able to train to

1181
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 11: that level. So I got myself to Thailand. I was

1182
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 11: amongst Peter Yan for Ze. I have all these guys

1183
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 11: that I'm trained with for ten years and still competing,

1184
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 11: still beating personal bests, still getting the eighth and and

1185
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 11: I will sleep the nutrition. The weight's still the same

1186
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 11: as what it was. I just feel like, yeah, my

1187
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 11: story's not written yet. Like the money's in the bank now,

1188
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 11: the belts on the side well, Mylon all these other

1189
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 11: guys that I want to secure my legacy. So when

1190
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 11: it's over, it's really over, and I'm like, I beat

1191
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 11: this guy, that guy, that guy. And if you look

1192
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 11: at the run that I've been on, beating Shaman, Tyler Diamond,

1193
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 11: Chris Wade, Buba Jenkins, and to add Mylon to that,

1194
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 11: it's going to be a great little streak.

1195
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 4: That one.

1196
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: I want to talk about Marley because he's one of

1197
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 5: the most dangerous fighters in the world. In round one, right,

1198
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: I mean round one, he comes at you. You know,

1199
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 5: how do you approach someone like that, you know, mentally

1200
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 5: and technically for this.

1201
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 11: One experience kind of it's just going to take a

1202
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 11: lot of experience. I mean if you have if you

1203
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 11: were green, I know Malon will blush you straight out

1204
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 11: there because he's like about out of hell. Because I

1205
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 11: call him the best free three minute fighter on planet

1206
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 11: Earth because he just goes absolutely wild for three minutes

1207
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 11: and then just slows right down. It's like he almost

1208
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 11: doesn't know how to pace himself. And he's like, even

1209
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 11: at this late stage in his career, he's still doing it.

1210
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 11: It's like even though his chin has deteriorated, he's still

1211
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 11: doing it. So it's like this guy's just got one

1212
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 11: gear and he's straightforward. I'm going to try and kill you.

1213
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 11: If I don't, then I'm probably gonna die myself. And

1214
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 11: that's like that's pretty much how he fights.

1215
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Brandon lockname with us here on the Anakin Flooring Podcast.

1216
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 7: So you're twenty six and four. I went through your

1217
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 7: whole body of work this morning. You've never been finished.

1218
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 7: So the next man to finished you was going to

1219
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 7: be the first to do so in professional mixed martial arts.

1220
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 7: What is it that has led to that durability? I mean,

1221
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 7: I would imagine physical and mental toughness is a part

1222
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 7: of it, but that's a pretty unprecedented statistic.

1223
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, growing up in Manchester, I think.

1224
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, growing up in England and Manchester, we're built different

1225
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: round there.

1226
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: Well, no, I couldn't tell you, John.

1227
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 11: I mean, I've never even been dropped in a fight

1228
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 11: until last season when I fought Kudo. I got hit

1229
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 11: with the left up and I was like, oh shit,

1230
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 11: I just said my first just hit the deck like whoa.

1231
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 4: So they're getting closerf but not yet.

1232
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see if al could do it.

1233
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 7: So your last three losses have all been by split decision. Right,

1234
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, twenty seventeen, twenty fifteen.

1235
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 6: Right. I mean you could be looking at.

1236
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 7: Twenty nine and one and I hear you talk about

1237
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 7: your legacy, and it makes me think about this. Of

1238
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 7: those three fights, whether it was pat Heally dukene Wi,

1239
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 7: which of those three fights did you want to quivocally

1240
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 7: deserve to win. It seemed like a lot of people

1241
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 7: were upset about the dukene Wa fight.

1242
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 11: I mean, I know you've probably not seen him, but

1243
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 11: pat Heally I beat very decisively two rounds, Tom Duke

1244
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 11: and while was a whitewasher on all three rounds, mavel

1245
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 11: haabaalai have he beat me like? There's no complaints there.

1246
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 11: He took me down and he controlled the fight. It

1247
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 11: was still close, but he beat me. I'll put my

1248
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 11: hands up in the air when I lose. But I

1249
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 11: did not lose them two fights.

1250
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: I really didn't.

1251
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 11: The fact that I have to tell people that I

1252
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 11: did and it's on my record, it hurts me to

1253
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 11: this day. Well, you know, we can't cry about it.

1254
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 11: The bank's full. Now, the belt there, let's keep.

1255
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 9: Going, let's go.

1256
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 7: Well, and that's why I think, and you probably sort

1257
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 7: of sense the happiness of fans like me when you

1258
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 7: broke through and won the belt, right, because it's yeah,

1259
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 7: the money is nice, right, but it's about your legacy,

1260
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 7: right because a lot of us thought that it was

1261
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 7: going to be in the UFC, and obviously you're on

1262
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 7: the precipice. And I would imagine that you can, even

1263
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 7: though your legacy is incomplete, sort of as you put it,

1264
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 7: can take a lot of solace in the fact that,

1265
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 7: you know, Ken Flow. I mean, look at this fucking guy.

1266
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 7: He can't say he was a mixed martial arts world

1267
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 7: champion at the highest level, right. He fought for the

1268
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 7: UFC belt three times, right, but I think he'd love

1269
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 7: to be able to look to his right and see

1270
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 7: a gold belt, you know, can't you take solace in

1271
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,479
Speaker 7: the fact that for everything that you went through, those

1272
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 7: split decision losses, the Dana White Contender Series stuff, the

1273
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 7: UFC stuff, when you didn't get as long a leash

1274
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 7: as you should have gotten after the Wilkinson fight in

1275
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 7: twenty twelve, look at you now, not unlike Leon Edwards.

1276
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 6: Fucking look at you now, and.

1277
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 11: No, thank you, John wy You couldn't put it any

1278
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 11: better in your really have done your research, And I'm

1279
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 11: glad to finally come on the podcast where someone has

1280
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 11: done the research and actually knows what they're talking about.

1281
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, listen. That's why I cried my eyes

1282
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: out because I was like, oh.

1283
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 11: My god, I actually did it. Like there was there

1284
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 11: was days and there was hours, like especially when a

1285
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 11: pat healer, Tom Duke and then Bill Algael then getting

1286
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 11: told no, like worked my whole life to get to

1287
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 11: the UFC, That's what I wanted. And I got turned

1288
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 11: away and then PFL opened the door with both arms

1289
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 11: and I said, look, kid, come over here.

1290
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: And now I'm what ten and one.

1291
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 11: With the PFL nine and one whatever, I am like

1292
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 11: ran with it, only lost his some move lead. And

1293
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 11: even when I lost some move lead, I'm like, can

1294
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Speaker 11: I do this tournament again physically? Then I'm picking up

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00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 11: these debilitating injuries like torn MCL first fight grade two,

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Speaker 11: like can I do it? Then broke my toe like

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Speaker 11: John Jones is facing this way for Bubba, like all

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Speaker 11: this shit, and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, keep going, keep going, keep going.

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Speaker 11: So the second that it actually happened and I won

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Speaker 11: and Bubbo was down and the rest locked it.

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Speaker 4: That was a feeling that I would never ever, ever

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: ever be able to put into words.

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Speaker 7: Do you go buy something? I know you've probably been

1305
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 7: asked that a million times, but like kenfe will probably

1306
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 7: go buy a car, go buy anything.

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Speaker 6: When you win a million dollars.

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01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 4: You know what it's for. The you're gonna like this one.

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Speaker 11: So I went apartment shopping in Dubai because that's where

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Speaker 11: I'm a resident at a minute. And then I watched

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Speaker 11: in this one and I'd like the craziest view and

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Speaker 11: I sat in the bed and I was like okay,

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Speaker 11: and I was like I said to the stage, I

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Speaker 11: was like.

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Speaker 4: Do you take cod.

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Speaker 6: Like what?

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Speaker 4: I was like, Yeah, yeah, I'll take it. Amazing.

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Speaker 6: So that's awesome, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd say I'd say that was the big purchase.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I really I can't wait to get back

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 6: Oh I bet, I bet, I gotta send me some picture.

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Speaker 5: I got to see these pictures Brandon when I'm out

1324
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Speaker 5: in Vegas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, We've got a.

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Speaker 7: Couple more minutes here with Brendan Lockedy and you can

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Speaker 7: see him fight live this Saturday against Marlon but Ice

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Speaker 7: from Las Vegas, Nevada. So for those not acutely familiar

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Speaker 7: with the format. As you look at the next three

1330
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 7: four months, what is the expectation. If you beat Marlon

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Speaker 7: and you get through that fight healthily enough, are you

1332
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: turning around in eight to nine weeks?

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Speaker 6: Is that the expectation?

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01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, June eighth, it's a second fight that's already been released,

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Speaker 11: so we can talk about that one that's in Atlanta.

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Speaker 11: So that's a nine and a half, I believe. So, yeah,

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 11: they're giving us a bit of time this time. Nine

1338
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Speaker 11: and a half, Like a.

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Speaker 2: Nine and a half is like a full cupigain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean, yeah, nine and a half.

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Speaker 11: It really is a gift in the PFL, which is

1342
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 11: insane to say, right, like nine and a half week

1343
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 11: like a gift. I mean, I don't know why I'm

1344
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 11: doing this shit together, really, man, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know why I'm spinning the dice in this thing

1346
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: again because it is the wildest ride in the world.

1347
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Speaker 3: But you know, what's the hardest thing I could physically do.

1348
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: Like I was sat there this year like, okay.

1349
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Speaker 11: Well I've done with the tournament now, let's just chill

1350
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 11: out and PFL get on the phone. You know, it's

1351
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 11: coming around together. I'm like, don't really want to do

1352
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 11: this together? And then now it's here, I'm super excited.

1353
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Speaker 11: I'm glad they've give me mile on, bit of legacy,

1354
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 11: bit of name value for me. Well much up, I'm

1355
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 11: looking for Everybody knows I'm a different Brenda now and

1356
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Speaker 11: I want to fight mob Bleed. I want to fight

1357
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Speaker 11: him all five rounds for the twenty twenty three belt.

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Speaker 4: That's what I want.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a fight that people want to

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Speaker 6: see again.

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Speaker 7: All right, before we let you go, just in terms

1362
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Speaker 7: of competing in the US or abroad versus competing in England,

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Speaker 7: do you care?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 7: I know I talked to a lot of Ozzie's and

1366
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 7: you may be surprised to hear you know, they want

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01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 7: to come fight in Las Vegas, you know, and even

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 7: Australian fight fans at times they want to see American

1369
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 7: superstars as much as they want to see Jack Dela Mattetlana.

1370
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Speaker 7: So where do you stand in terms of PFL Europe

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Speaker 7: and your ability to sort of extend your wings in

1372
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 7: terms of where you're competing over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good question. So out of my eleven

1374
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 11: or ten US PFL fight. Sorry, it's had one in

1375
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 11: London and the rest of all been in the States.

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Speaker 4: But Kenny, I'll voutch for me. How good was London?

1377
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: Can I come on?

1378
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Speaker 6: It was unreal?

1379
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Speaker 5: Man, that was electric that night, Man was electric and

1380
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 5: those guys then Now.

1381
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Speaker 11: Honestly, John, it was amazing. So I would love if

1382
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 11: they went back there this year. I don't know the schedule.

1383
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 11: I know the next ones Atlanta. Well, can you imagine

1384
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 11: Brendan Lotney, Marveled Hubbaalai of Manchester Arena twenty twenty three

1385
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 11: for the belt ten thousand, fifteen thousand, whatever it is,

1386
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 11: we guarantee we sell it out now we're talking, So

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 11: I'm just throwing it out there for Pete Murray and

1388
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 11: all the guys behind the scenes, you know, you know

1389
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 11: where you know where the finals should be.

1390
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Speaker 7: Like yeah, Well, and Ken Fla I think gets a

1391
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 7: couple of tickets in his contract, So depending on my schedule, I.

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Speaker 6: Might be wheeled up.

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Speaker 7: I got you, Brendan Lockmane Marlon Rice under the lights

1394
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 7: of this Saturday in Las Vegas. Hey man, congratulations on

1395
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 7: realizing all the success you got. Big fans here and

1396
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 7: we'll be watching on Saturday night. Man, enjoy it.

1397
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me fellas, I'll see you, Kenny, good

1398
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 11: luck brother, great kay guys.

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Speaker 7: All right, there he is the PFL featherweight champion, Brendan

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Speaker 7: Locknane right back in the tournament. Sort of a tricky thing, right,

1401
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 7: They they crown you and then they they take you

1402
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 7: off the throne and throw you back in the tournament.

1403
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Speaker 6: Go do it again, Go do that again. It's tough, man.

1404
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 6: So when do you fly out to Las Vegas? Uh? Thursday?

1405
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 7: Thursday?

1406
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 6: All right? Yeah? And where can people watch that fight?

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01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 6: That's going to be on ESPN, Man, that would be

1408
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 6: on ESPN. Ye.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you want to see Brendan Locke name and

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Speaker 7: billaw last week that is still up for your viewing pleasure,

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Speaker 7: and we'll be back later in the week with our

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Speaker 7: four hundredth episode, perhaps even featuring Michael Bisbing. Thanks to

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Speaker 7: our executive producer Cody Merrow. Thanks to Ray Longo, Brandon

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Speaker 7: Locknane and everybody behind the scenes at DraftKings as well

1432
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Speaker 7: for Kemp Plum John, and thank you all for watching.

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Speaker 7: Talk to you in a few days. Until then, you'll

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Speaker 7: fucking later