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Speaker 2: This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 2: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Heckma,

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Speaker 2: Harrison Everson, Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola And the Road.

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Speaker 4: Super bowls sixty one and Sofi at Sofi Stadium, Inglewood, California.

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Speaker 5: Starts naw wow, this is wow.

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Speaker 6: I mean right, get him ready, Get him ready?

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Speaker 1: Bill does?

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Speaker 5: Get him ready? Bill, how he was gonna get to.

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Speaker 4: So Far Stadium, Inglewood, California, five miles from where Jerry

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Speaker 4: Jones was born. Super Bowl sixty one.

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Speaker 1: That's why you, my man, that's your I do.

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Speaker 4: Know one number Jerry Jones war at the University of Arkansas,

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Speaker 4: sixty one, number sixty one. There it is. So I

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Speaker 4: said it here first, Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: You said it your second?

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Speaker 1: Did you said it last night.

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Speaker 4: On the news?

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Speaker 5: I saw a second, Thank you, thanks Chris.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but I said it here first. Okay. So that

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Speaker 4: established It's time to look back at Super Bowl sixty

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Speaker 4: and look ahead.

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Speaker 5: Stars are a lot, Yes.

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Speaker 4: The stars are look Heckma's got a star on his hat.

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Speaker 8: If I come in here wearing anything else, it's an SOS.

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Speaker 8: It's okay, cowd of people for me. I just know

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Speaker 8: what it is.

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Speaker 5: We like to know.

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Speaker 4: Mickey's got a Super Bowl numbers at super Bowl fifty five?

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Speaker 5: Is that what that is?

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Speaker 4: Forty five? Oh yeah, lv's okay. Kind of here, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago and here we are. We're ready to

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Speaker 4: talk about it ever since.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well. How are you doing doing? William?

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Speaker 4: Doing very well, very well.

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Speaker 5: I had a good time. Uh, most the most unusual

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Speaker 5: circumstances around me watching a Super Bowl. I actually watched

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Speaker 5: it at church. Dude, again, I watched.

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Speaker 9: Last week you went to church? Where what's going on

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Speaker 9: with no think of that fame?

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Speaker 7: Where was the video screen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the video screen was up up on the altar. Yes,

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Speaker 5: And and they didn't have commercials and we couldn't watch

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Speaker 5: bad Bunny what Yeah, yeah, it's the church. Don't come on.

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Speaker 5: Saw those booty shaking up there, man, and on the halftime.

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Speaker 8: So you went back and I saw it this morning

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Speaker 8: on the view.

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Speaker 5: The view was going up.

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Speaker 7: Were they allowed to show Lady Gaga singing too?

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Speaker 5: I didn't see that. I just saw when they turned around,

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Speaker 5: and it was a bunch of uh hindsight. I woke

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Speaker 5: up on that.

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Speaker 7: Hey, okay, I get that it was all in Spanish.

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Speaker 5: I didn't it didn't matter. I like the music.

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Speaker 7: I like music.

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Speaker 5: It was right, bron can't help but love that kind

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Speaker 5: of music. Yeah, the ship, the sympmetry is that the word?

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Speaker 5: Am I using it right? To?

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Speaker 8: Where they to look that one up imagery?

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Speaker 5: I guess we'll go going to the to the fields

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Speaker 5: and how they depicted all of that. Yeah, all of that.

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Speaker 7: Stuff kind of reminded everybody that Puerto Rico was part

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Speaker 5: A good job and all of that. I have it

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Speaker 5: all right here. Imagine that, and that the original color

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Speaker 5: of the Puerto Rican flag, the original blue is really

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Speaker 5: lighter than what we have now. And I didn't know

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Speaker 8: So for those people that don't know, I lived in

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Speaker 8: Puerto Rico for three years and three and a.

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Speaker 1: Half years, so I was then. Yeah, I thought it

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 8: If people don't know, Puerto Rican people are very proud people,

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Speaker 8: so I was very happy. To see that on display

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Speaker 8: last night, and I know, man, there's so much division

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Speaker 8: going on with everything. But again, if you just love,

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Speaker 8: if you love, if you love, a good vibe, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You got it.

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Speaker 5: At halftime. It was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It was a good and it was a great game.

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Speaker 1: It's a great game.

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Speaker 8: Where you guys on the fence about all the lack

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like I didn't.

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Speaker 5: Feel like that because I wanted a defensive Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: You didn't mind that. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 5: still wanted a more competitive game. Okay, I wanted it

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Speaker 5: to be a closer game.

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Speaker 7: I was closed it was until at the end, Well,

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Speaker 5: You could see it coming, Yeah, yeah, you could see

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Speaker 5: it coming. And I think as it built up to that,

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Speaker 5: you could see the frustration in New England's offense. They

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Speaker 5: didn't have anything going. It was six nothing, okay, so

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Speaker 5: all they got to do is just get a field goal.

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Speaker 5: It's nine to nothing, okay, all the guy, maybe they

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Speaker 5: the game. It's twelve. Okay, man, you're not going any

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Speaker 5: let me ask you ever spinning your wheels, Everson.

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Speaker 4: I think that maybe the biggest play of the game

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Speaker 4: might have been the first pass of the game.

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Speaker 7: I say that because that should have been a pick six.

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Speaker 4: Marcus Jones the slot corner jump that route. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: if he catches that ball, it's a seven to nothing

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Speaker 4: Patriots lead right at the start of the game. And

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Speaker 4: it didn't matter that the Patriots. It wouldn't have mattered

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Speaker 4: what the Patriots offense wasn't able to do the next three.

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Speaker 5: That would have to be more interesting. But all the

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Speaker 4: And especially with Donald's history, and I mean he led

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Speaker 4: a playmaker. I mean that guy makes missed it yeah,

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Speaker 4: right and missed it yeah, and if he goes the

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Speaker 4: other way, boom. We got a real close game in yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it was, but it was. I mean, like

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Speaker 4: Mickey said, it was nine to nothing and with a

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Speaker 4: minute left in the third quarter, wasn't it And then

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Speaker 4: they finally got the turnover hack.

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Speaker 7: His second or third pass could have been picked off

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Speaker 5: The one whether the guy went for the hit, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Whether the one in Cooper to cut down the sideline

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Speaker 4: They quickly got to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 7: And do you think he had possession of that?

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Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't get a good look at it.

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Speaker 4: I was busy.

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Speaker 7: I didn't think he got his second busy right were

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Speaker 7: you work?

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Speaker 4: I didn't have time to go back and look at it.

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Speaker 8: Like me at church, I wasn't. I wasn't at church,

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Speaker 8: uh and I wasn't busy. But shout out to Sam

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Speaker 8: Donald and to me. We talked about a little bit

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Speaker 8: last week on you know, I've always said, man, he

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Speaker 8: gives me bubble guts because I know he puts the

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Speaker 8: ball in harm's way a lot. Coming into this game,

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Speaker 8: I just felt like the only way that the Seahawks

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Speaker 8: And you saw that that was front and center and

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Speaker 8: they I know it's a curse word to call any

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Speaker 8: quarterback a game manager, but he managed that game well

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Speaker 8: and although he had those near scrapes, he avoided it.

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Speaker 8: He made the throws when he needed to, didn't turn

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Speaker 8: so that all that meant was all they needed to

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Speaker 8: takes a lot of that clock off and it put

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Speaker 8: just ran out of time, didn't have it, didn't have

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I never saw any promise at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they had seventy eight yards total offense through

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Speaker 4: in that game, obviously all in the fourth quarter. And

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Speaker 4: but it was this total domination by the Seattle I mean,

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Speaker 4: when when a team has to punt eight straight times.

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Speaker 5: That's where the frustration came in.

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Speaker 7: And I think that when I was watching six of

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Speaker 5: See what I'm saying, you couldn't see it. You could,

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Speaker 5: you could see it. That was I don't care what

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Speaker 5: they almost did. It was never going to come into

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Speaker 5: fruition because that Seattle defense is exactly what we thought

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Speaker 7: In some point in five hours of pregame show, Jason

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Speaker 7: Garrett pointed out that for Seattle, well I think it

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Speaker 7: started at eleven or noon, right. Uh. Pointed out that

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Speaker 7: for Seattle's offense to function, they had to run the

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Speaker 7: And that's exactly what happened. And you know they did

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Speaker 7: that throughout the playoffs. Walker taken over at running back.

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Speaker 7: He's got some skills, not bad timing to be the

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Speaker 7: m v P. Were going to be an unrestricted free agent, by.

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Speaker 4: The way, Yeah, kind of like Milton Williams last year.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't the m v P, but he was the

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Speaker 4: star for the Eagles and he was the highest paid

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Speaker 4: free agent in football by the Patriots. Now had played

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Speaker 4: in a second straight Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: If New England could have pulled it out, what the

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Speaker 7: cornerback falls little the colony, right, he would have been

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Speaker 7: the m v P should have been right like this game,

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Speaker 7: it could have been Chuck Holly.

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Speaker 5: He was he was the one out. He was one

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Speaker 5: of that was typical of the New England defense. They

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Speaker 5: were just out there, they were scrapping.

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Speaker 8: They sold out, they sold they really sold out to

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Speaker 8: try and stop the run. And it was their head coach.

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Speaker 8: I gotta say this again about their head coach. I

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Speaker 8: couldn't pick this guy out of a lineup, and it's

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Speaker 8: my own ignorance to him. But man, what a way

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Speaker 8: to coach that game. His scheme that he put together.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was masterful because offensively, the idea for

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Speaker 8: Sam Donald was, look, just don't put this ball in

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Speaker 8: harm's way. We're gonna stick to what we do, and

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Speaker 8: like you said, that's what they did throughout the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But defensively, oh my god, they have their mother.

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Speaker 5: When you have that kind of defense, it's kind of

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Speaker 5: hard to dumb it up really. You know, with everything

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Speaker 5: that he did, he knew that the defense is going

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Speaker 5: to cover him for it.

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Speaker 4: So he's able to blitz more than what he normally does.

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Speaker 5: He can, he can, he can go back there doing

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Speaker 5: all of this. He's gonna you know, they're gonna help him.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna get a response from his defense. He's going

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Speaker 5: to get a reaction from his defense. And of course

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Speaker 5: you know, as I sit there watching like, why can't

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys do that? So that was pretty much.

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Speaker 7: But the hand moost you liked all that blitzing.

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Speaker 4: Especially when you got to have smart players on the

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Speaker 7: Guy was coming from left field on those, blitzer was perfect.

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Speaker 5: The timing was excellent almost every time.

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Speaker 4: And so you know what, there's a corner blitz on

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Speaker 5: Too, But the corner bit blitz worked twice to perfection

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Speaker 4: And by the way, that corner Devin Witherspoon was a

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Speaker 4: I believe the Cowboys have two first round picks this year.

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Speaker 4: Perhaps you can learn a little something from teams that

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Speaker 7: Had better be.

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Speaker 5: I told you what I want. What's that linebacker?

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Speaker 7: And a linebacker I want that linebacker, but you want

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Speaker 4: R there was a defensive for the Seahawks. There was

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Speaker 5: Bring him up?

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Speaker 7: Did you did you you heard about his story?

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Speaker 4: I did about his wife, wife.

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Speaker 4: That's why the doctor was at her side.

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Speaker 7: Doctor, but she that was her idea. So do you

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Speaker 7: But the best part was is before the game when

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Speaker 7: pointed out that you know, we got five kids. We

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Speaker 4: This is number six coming.

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Speaker 1: That is not just me.

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Speaker 7: Where's boys is where he's from?

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Speaker 4: He called his shot though last March.

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Speaker 7: He also said players win championships, not logos. That was

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Speaker 4: But you go back to, yes, why the Cowboys did

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Speaker 5: We know.

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Speaker 7: They didn't have a premonition that they weren't going to

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Speaker 4: Right, if the if the Michael Parsons situation would have

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Speaker 7: A Dallas resigned because he got three years thirty two million.

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Speaker 7: I believe it was he's not going to pass that.

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Speaker 5: Uh okay. So let's say if he Plass would have

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Speaker 4: No, we would not have had Lawrence. The reason why

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Speaker 5: And he'd be pretty upset.

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Speaker 4: Who knows, well this defense.

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Speaker 9: By the way, this is no I'm not saying the defense.

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Speaker 4: The defense would not have been thirty second in the

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Speaker 5: Twenty eight comar. I mean D Law's been here when

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Speaker 5: we've had issues with it. That's not on d Law.

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Speaker 5: But he can't play all sides.

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Speaker 8: So but I mean, if you're the Marcus Lawrence and

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Speaker 5: And the way they played against the Rams, played against

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Speaker 7: In Matthew Stafford, he was a half a step away

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Speaker 7: they counted it as an incomplete pass. He almost and

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Speaker 7: he was pretty good against the run. I know he

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Speaker 4: One play in particular, it was right before that pressure

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Speaker 1: Now, don't pour anything, I don't pour anything.

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Speaker 8: They put the microscope right on side six ahead, no preface.

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Speaker 4: In fact, there were two rookies on the left side

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Speaker 1: Getting at work.

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Speaker 5: Over there, and he.

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Speaker 1: Don't give him out.

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Speaker 4: The point is that you better get your edges sat yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: In fact, that's white and Kansas City have problems last

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Speaker 4: it's well documented who they didn't did or did not

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Speaker 4: you're going to rack up some wins. And they were

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Speaker 5: Atlanta, Atlanta, No, ya, that's right.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, they lost to Vegas earlier in

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Speaker 7: And in a driving snowstore.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the second half.

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Speaker 8: Do you guys think now that you've seen the Super

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Speaker 8: that change the way that you look at rebuilds in

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Speaker 7: Well one year there, yeah, right, he'd been a head coach,

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Speaker 7: right and been successful.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean I'm talking about yeah, the first time

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Speaker 4: Yes, super Bowl sixty one.

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Speaker 1: I'm just.

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Speaker 8: I mean the minds that it used to be, it

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Speaker 8: The defensive system is there. Offensively, you have a system

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Speaker 5: And this Donald's first year with this team.

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Speaker 4: And I at this time, Gino Smith was their quarterback and.

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Speaker 4: The way, and by the way there, and their wideouts

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Speaker 8: And uh was forgotten about in LA. That's right, bushed

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Speaker 4: Well, they brought they brought in DeVante Adams, and they

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Speaker 10: And money, Yeah, I think that mostly the money, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: So I mean I think that's interesting for you know,

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Speaker 8: So I've heard this argument on radio with Signetti guys

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Speaker 8: I think we're getting into a new frontier on these coaches.

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Speaker 5: I mean, why couldn't we be the ones to show that?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question. You know.

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Speaker 5: That's why I never like to go about with tradition,

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Speaker 5: You know, show Okay, I can show you another path.

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Speaker 5: You know, we can do this in one year. Well,

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Speaker 5: well I can do this in two years. Oh no,

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Speaker 5: you can't because that's never been done. So you know,

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Speaker 5: I just I just don't like short sightedness. It just

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Speaker 5: it just leads to complacency.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes it has to do with players.

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Speaker 4: Think about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this team ended up with eight Pro Bowl players,

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Speaker 4: Who played half the season with a different tea. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so that part's good. Now you got to fix

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Speaker 7: the other part. And it proved that you could win

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Speaker 7: a Super Bowl with Okay, they had all these things

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Speaker 7: first time whatever. When do you think the last time

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Speaker 7: in a Super Bowl neither quarterback had an eighty point

451
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Speaker 7: zero rating. They were both like seventy something and in

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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl and you had to go back to

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Speaker 7: Terrell Davis to find the last MVP as a running back?

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Speaker 7: How about that is also you know who was before that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So here's what kind of gets me with this

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Speaker 5: is the Super Bowl. The NFL is going to react

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Speaker 5: to the fans. And if the fans say something like,

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Speaker 5: well this game was boring, it was you know, too

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Speaker 5: much defense, Now they're going to go change the rules

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Speaker 5: now how the referees are going to call games? Right,

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Speaker 5: and now we're going to be looking at Oh, we

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Speaker 5: got to get more offense in here because the fans

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Speaker 5: don't like it. Because the fans came back and told

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Speaker 5: us this is not what we want to see. It's

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Speaker 5: not exciting, it doesn't go for good ratings. You know

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Speaker 5: they'll do that. It has happened before. And so is

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Speaker 5: this what we want or do we want to change?

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Speaker 5: Do we like this kind of football? Do we like

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Speaker 5: defense winning championships like it's supposed to be, or do

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Speaker 5: we want to go back to.

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Speaker 7: If that's the way it turns out, that's the way

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Speaker 7: it turns out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 8: They can't change the rules any more than they already

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Speaker 8: have to favor the offense. I mean, what else could

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Speaker 8: they possibly take away from a defense?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 8: You can't put hands on receivers, you can't touch the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: What what else could you possibly take away? Cornerbacks are

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Speaker 8: just so good these days, man handed out by wise man.

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Speaker 5: They out there balling well. Both sides, both secondaries. I

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Speaker 5: thought played excellent football. I really did so.

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Speaker 7: I was going to wait on this, but.

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Speaker 4: We could we need a break if you want to, Oh,

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Speaker 4: there you go, breaking up a path.

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Speaker 5: I used that when I was posting. American Diabesis was

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Speaker 5: in the super Bowl program and yeah, thanks for telling

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Speaker 5: me last week as soon as we came so we

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Speaker 5: for the show.

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Speaker 7: I didn't have like, hey, I wanted to tell you this.

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Speaker 7: I got a picture of your I got it after that.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that, bro, Absolutely they didn't forget.

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Speaker 4: Okay, when we come back here on mixed shots, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to tell you who the real MVP of this

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Speaker 4: super Bowl was for the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 7: In three minutes. You're gonna do it in three minutes.

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Speaker 4: I met, I'm gonna do it when we come back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, in three minutes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you want to know who the real MVP of

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Speaker 4: the Seattle Championship.

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Speaker 5: Is going to be? On office person, not on the rash,

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Speaker 5: A front office.

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Speaker 4: Person or John Schneider the GM. It would be a

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Speaker 4: start on that. Okay, Russell Wilson, Why would you say that?

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Speaker 4: Go back to the Russell Wilson track with Denver. Here's

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Speaker 4: what they got in that trade. Okay, the Broncos got

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson and a fourth round pick in exchange for

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Speaker 4: tight end. This is their herschel Walker train basically, Okay.

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Speaker 4: In exchange for tight end Noah, quarterback Drew Locke, and

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Speaker 4: defensive end Shelby Harris, they also got a twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: two first round pick, a twenty twenty three first round pick,

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Speaker 4: a twenty twenty two second round pick, a twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: three second round pick, and a twenty twenty two fifth

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Speaker 4: round pick. So in those drafts in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: in the first round, the Seahawks and I don't know

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Speaker 4: which is their own pick and which is the Broncos,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, okay. In the first round in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty they selected Charles Cross. Okay, they did something with

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Speaker 4: the other pick, but boy A Mafe in the second round,

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker in the second round in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: Devin Witherspoon in the first round, Jackson Smith and Jigba

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Speaker 4: in the first round of that draft, and the fifth

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Speaker 4: round pick in twenty twenty two was Riek Woolan's.

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Speaker 5: That's my that's my people, the blood. Yeah, he's forth

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Speaker 5: Worth Arnie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right. So there is where you set

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Speaker 4: the foundation and all those guys I just mentioned, they're

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Speaker 4: all playing and playing well in the Super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 4: That's where you set the foundation for what happened in

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 14: So here we go, then right to the first round picks.

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Speaker 14: Here we got to first round picking that next year.

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Speaker 14: Already here we go, and I already used to get Williams.

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Speaker 8: The train, the building box and cap space. I've had

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Speaker 8: no idea. You were about to say Russell Wilson, but

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Speaker 8: I mean that is a way to look at it.

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Speaker 8: He completely rebuilt that squad for them, and they did

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Speaker 8: a damn good job of some of the other guys

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Speaker 8: that they picked. They came up big on Barron Murphy

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Speaker 8: from from ut a guy that played at De Soto.

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Speaker 8: I called his games in high school. I'm telling you

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Speaker 8: he was just as good in high school as you

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Speaker 8: see now. And it's amazing, man, it's amazing to see

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Speaker 8: these guys take the next step.

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Speaker 1: B pros, Jackson Smith and Jigbu as well.

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Speaker 8: When I saw him go out of the game, I

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Speaker 8: was a little worried about what they were going to do,

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Speaker 8: knowing that they had Cooper Cup. But you know how

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Speaker 8: they you know, concussion protocol goes. Most of the time,

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Speaker 8: when a guy goes on concussion protocol, he doesn't doesn't

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Speaker 8: come back. But just to see that from those guys

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Speaker 8: in Texas, you know Texas, he must negotiating.

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Speaker 5: When they went back to the lock, he begged, he begged.

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Speaker 5: This is the Super Bowl. My people are in the stands.

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Speaker 4: How about their draft this year? I mean Gray Zabel,

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Speaker 4: the guard is one of their best offensive linemen. Okay,

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Speaker 4: and nick em and Warring number three on their defense.

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Speaker 1: That guy is good. Yes, he is good.

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Speaker 7: Well, he's versatile, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a player.

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Speaker 4: He was a second round pick.

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Speaker 7: He was in coverage on wide receivers at times.

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Speaker 5: No, it's a good looking squad.

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Speaker 7: Now what do they list him as a linebacker?

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Speaker 4: No, he's a safety, safe safety, pounds safety. So he's

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Speaker 4: he comes down and it looks like a linebacker. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So and so in today's NFL with a nickel defense,

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Speaker 4: he can come down and be your nickel linebacker. You

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Speaker 4: can cover in the slot. And plus he's got great leadership.

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Speaker 4: You saw what the the NFC Championship game when Rak

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Speaker 4: Wollan did what he did on the sideline and who

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Speaker 4: was the guy that was on the Seattle sideline getting

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Speaker 4: Rik Wollen's act back together again. It was Nick and Worri.

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Speaker 4: You know, a rookie doing that.

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Speaker 7: So that is that safety from Ohio State like that.

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Speaker 7: I haven't studied the guy everybody says is the first

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Speaker 7: round pick or no.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he is talented.

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Speaker 8: I think getting to see Nick do it at the

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Speaker 8: pro level, it already just says like man, that that's

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Speaker 8: a high bard upset. But what he's done in college, heck, yeah,

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Speaker 8: he's that names. No, I'm not gonna put that on,

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Speaker 8: but I mean, yeah, let's hold versatility.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that's safety and go in the slot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah I can't. That's that's where.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I mean he can be that kind of player.

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Speaker 8: I mean he's that physical around the line of the tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: he could play. He could do play the run as well.

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Speaker 8: I mean he's that physical. But man, that's seeing Nick

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Speaker 8: do it is like man coming out of South Carolina.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how many people had him in the

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Speaker 8: vein that he's able to play with with Seattle and so,

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Speaker 8: I mean he's just showing his worth in their scouting

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Speaker 8: department came up big with him.

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Speaker 7: Well, I've seen him go to the Cowboys and mock

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Speaker 7: drafts and as we went through last year, said I

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Speaker 7: don't want a safety in the first round, right like

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Speaker 7: I don't want.

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Speaker 5: To Maybe got two of them since then.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But the other question is, you know, now that we've

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Speaker 8: seen I asked a question about, you know, coaches and

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Speaker 8: their tenure, but also next year's Super Bowl coaches, will

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Speaker 8: they be coaches as we talked about offense, will there

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Speaker 8: be coaches that have great defenses of coaches that have

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Speaker 8: great offenses, because as we saw this season, it was

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Speaker 8: all about defense.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and eight of the ten, eight of the top

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Speaker 4: ten playoff teams were top defenses.

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Speaker 1: And top defenses.

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Speaker 8: And so I mean the question is we know here

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Speaker 8: we've got a great offense, and now we're completely we're

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Speaker 8: trying to find clarity on our identity.

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Speaker 1: It's what that's going to look like next season.

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Speaker 5: It shows that you can have a defense that is

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Speaker 5: good enough to cover for your offensive problems. So to me,

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Speaker 5: if you if the Cowboys, my said could be we

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Speaker 5: might let some offensive guys go that we think, oh

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Speaker 5: we never should let them go, because our defense could

666
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Speaker 5: be if we do it right, as good as the

667
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Speaker 5: Seattle defense as good as New England's defense, I think

668
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: they would take more chances if they're gonna go with

669
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: the trend in the NFL. You know, we don't want

670
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Speaker 5: to lose anyone offensively, of course, but when you start

671
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Speaker 5: talking about salaries and the cap and all of that,

672
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 5: don't be surprised if we have to let somebody go

673
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Speaker 5: that we really love. Don't be surprised. I'm just saying,

674
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Speaker 5: because now, if you're gonna go with the trend, hey man,

675
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Speaker 5: we gotta go with defense eight out of last ten

676
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Speaker 5: or top ten. We got all these top defenses, we

677
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: may not be able to get our defense where we

678
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: wanted unless we let somebody go on offense.

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Speaker 4: Number three. You really love number three on offense, right,

680
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: I do?

681
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Speaker 5: And I really don't want to put that out there

682
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Speaker 5: in regards to him.

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Speaker 1: He hit you, hits it at it for you.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of guys that we got running back

685
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Speaker 5: to the good we got. We got tight good. So

686
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Speaker 5: with somebody offensive, lineman, we you know know who we

687
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: might lose while we're.

688
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Speaker 1: Trying to show up our defense.

689
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Speaker 5: It's not gonna be like, Okay, this is gonna stay

690
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 5: the same over here. Nice ice cream and Candy over here.

691
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Speaker 5: But then once you got over here with.

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Speaker 7: Away, he's not here as if he chooses not.

693
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Speaker 5: Why y'all keep talking about this one guy. I didn't

694
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Speaker 5: say the one guy.

695
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Speaker 4: Well, let me he's beating on the bush. Let me

696
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: give you the free agents. Let me give you the

697
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Speaker 4: free agents to be okay, would he be He could

698
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Speaker 4: be talking about Javonte Williams. He could okay, he could

699
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Speaker 4: be talking about number three. He could be talking about Uh.

700
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Speaker 7: He's gonna get you.

701
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 8: You you opened the doors.

702
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Speaker 4: He talking about Jaylen Tobert Okay, he's a free agent.

703
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: Miles Sanders, Robert Jones, uh Brock, Kaufman, and T. J.

704
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: Bastard restricted free agents, and so is the kicker by

705
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Speaker 4: the yep er, Brandon Aubrey.

706
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Speaker 7: You don't want to spend seven an, I want everything

707
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 7: to Pickens is not going anywhere franchised, And the only

708
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Speaker 7: reason he's not here is if he chooses not to

709
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Speaker 7: play for the franchise thing. And he's not going to

710
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Speaker 7: give up twenty eight million dollars guaranteed. That's more money,

711
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Speaker 7: probably four times as much money as he made in

712
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Speaker 7: his first three years or four years in the league.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think we all can agree that the problem

714
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Speaker 8: with the Dallas Cowboys defense is talent.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 8: And you're talking about talent acquisition, and the way that

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Speaker 8: you do talent acquisition is you may have to let

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Speaker 8: go of some of those big pieces. So if that,

719
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Speaker 8: I'm not going to say a number, but let's just

720
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Speaker 8: say getting rid of or not re signing a guy

721
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Speaker 8: allows you to bring in two or three guys, or

722
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Speaker 8: making a trade for a guy get you to where

723
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Speaker 8: you can bring in a DeMarcus Lawrence type play.

724
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Speaker 5: Say, that's right, that's the Seahawks story. He just laid

725
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 5: it out right there. That's the blueprint. He just laid

726
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Speaker 5: it out.

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Speaker 7: He was a luxury for them because he only played,

728
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 7: if I remember correctly looking up during the regular season,

729
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 7: like forty seven percent of the snaps. So he was

730
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Speaker 7: a rotation player who was productive.

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Speaker 5: Do you think it was a certain situations like, uh,

732
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Speaker 5: maybe he came in on third downs or was he

733
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Speaker 5: coming in on running down?

734
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Speaker 4: No, he was running down.

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Speaker 7: He was in running in running down. Yes, if you

736
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Speaker 7: looked at it, And.

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Speaker 4: That's the value. As we all know, with Lawrence, it's

738
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Speaker 4: not all about sacks with him. I mean, one of

739
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Speaker 4: the huge reasons that the Cowboys run defense was so

740
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: bad this year was that Dee Law wasn't here and

741
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Speaker 4: he was hurt much last year.

742
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Speaker 7: Well, he only played four games last.

743
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Speaker 5: Year and they hardly came his way when he was

744
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 5: out there, They hardly came his way.

745
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Speaker 7: So his value was playing there. He was their best

746
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Speaker 7: run defender on the defense front.

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Speaker 8: I mean, and they had and to Seattle's credit, I mean,

748
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 8: they were deep in their defensive front rotating.

749
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 8: He was definitely a rotational piece. But all of those

751
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 8: guys they fit, you know, like a glove.

752
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But you.

753
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Speaker 4: Think about the interior guys on Seattle's defense, and we're

754
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Speaker 4: talking the likes of Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy and

755
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Speaker 4: Jared Reid. The Cowboys have a start right there as

756
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: they put this thing together for this year with the

757
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Speaker 4: trade for Quinn Williams, with OsO Digezua, with Kenny Clark,

758
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Speaker 4: I mean, Solomon Thomas, even in the mix there where

759
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: you've got the interior that models what Seattle has done

760
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Speaker 4: to build that defense. Now Seattle has the edges, they've

761
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Speaker 4: got the linebackers.

762
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Speaker 8: They've got this yet now rubber hits road. That's right,

763
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Speaker 8: and things start to change.

764
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Speaker 7: And forty one, as Jerry calls, I mean, so.

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Speaker 5: Let's say him and maybe you have and.

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Speaker 4: If you have a healthyter On Bland over Street, over Street,

767
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Speaker 4: over Overshown.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, yeah what was over Street?

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Speaker 5: Yeah you're back in Oklahoma.

770
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and he was assistant coach here, there you go.

771
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Speaker 8: But we got Look, I love Overshown came back too early.

772
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Speaker 8: You saw that, and it's production this season. I think

773
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Speaker 8: a full off season is gonna do him well. But

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Speaker 8: I do believe as we're doing the comparison with Seattle,

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Speaker 8: I mean he's he would he.

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Speaker 5: Would be number three, right, I mean, if you're going

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Speaker 5: to compare, no.

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Speaker 8: I mean number three is a strong He's a better

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Speaker 8: cover guy than I've seen from Overshown personally. And I

780
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Speaker 8: mean even when we're talking about guys like Witherspoon and

781
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 8: wooland guys like that, do you we love Deron Bland

782
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Speaker 8: coming off of the foot injuries. We don't know what

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Speaker 8: we have in the rookie and what he did this season.

784
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Speaker 8: I just there's no comparison. When he talked about the

785
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Speaker 8: back half of their defense, the talent level that they.

786
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Speaker 5: Have, well, now, now let's we're looking we're talking about

787
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Speaker 5: last year's defense. What about this year's defense with the Cowboys.

788
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Speaker 5: We have a defensive coordinator, a new defensive coordinator.

789
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Speaker 7: So he needs something to coordinate.

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Speaker 5: So he might bring in his own type players well,

791
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Speaker 5: and that that might be something.

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Speaker 7: To start with a cornerback, start with a linebacker.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that would be a good A lot of seats,

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Speaker 8: a lot of seats to feel. And that's all I'm

795
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Speaker 8: bringing it up because I think that's the most intriguing

796
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Speaker 8: part about what you do next season is talent, that acquisition.

797
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Speaker 8: As we continue to talk about that and the decisions

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Speaker 8: on who's gonna get paid and who's not gonna get

799
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Speaker 8: paid because of you know, you needing so many different pieces.

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Speaker 5: Are they Are they a bunch of amazing individuals or

801
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Speaker 5: do they just play well as a team together.

802
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Speaker 4: You're talking about seattles.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think they play well as a team to.

804
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 5: So everyone out there. They're not superstars. So you see

805
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 5: where I'm going with this, And you know what, sometimes

806
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: you just got to get the right nucleus of players together.

807
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Speaker 5: You don't have to everyone does be a superstar.

808
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 7: I don't know if you stayed with it to listen

809
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 7: to the postgame interviews. These were really sharp guys that

810
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Speaker 7: Seattle had interviewing, and it was always about the team.

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Speaker 7: It was always about sticking together. And you know, the

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Speaker 7: head coach, that's all he would say. He didn't give

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Speaker 7: himself any credit. He didn't give this guy or that

814
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Speaker 7: guy credit. It was the team. As a matter of fact,

815
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Speaker 7: in the middle of one interview, he's on air and

816
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 7: they're asking him a question and his answers about as

817
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 7: boring as can be, and he interrupted the guy and said,

818
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Speaker 7: you know, talk to this guy because I think the

819
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 7: running back and the quarterback were there. He goes, because

820
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Speaker 7: this is really bad TV meeting himself, right, Eddie was right.

821
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Speaker 7: But that's the kind of the personality.

822
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Speaker 5: Of the culture of the team.

823
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, the culture, and that's what all the guys talked

824
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 7: about was the team. It wasn't about me, It wasn't

825
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 7: about this guy or that guy. It was about the team.

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Speaker 7: And I thought that was pretty indicative of what was

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Speaker 7: taking place.

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Speaker 4: Think of the legion of Boom, the secondary, yes, and

829
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Speaker 4: what was the strength of that cam Richard, Richard Sherman,

830
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Speaker 4: Earl Thomas at safety and so.

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Speaker 8: I thought their safeties was were dynamic the way that

832
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Speaker 8: they play cam in cams right.

833
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Speaker 4: And a lot, and it was such a and I'm

834
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Speaker 4: talking between the years. They knew what each other was doing.

835
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Speaker 4: And I think that is such a huge part of it.

836
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 5: That's kind of why they put that was put Richard

837
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Speaker 5: Sherman as the head of that Stanford you know, intellect

838
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Speaker 5: and all of that, and of course playmaking.

839
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Speaker 4: And Earl Thomas had that same very instinctive.

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Speaker 1: Now he was a dog. I loved him.

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Speaker 8: I guess to your question about these individuals on this team,

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Speaker 8: I just think they have they have a great mix.

843
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 8: And I'm telling you to me, there's about seven guys

844
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 8: on that team that I believe are just dynamic football players.

845
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Speaker 8: That Nick emn Warie guy, I think he could play

846
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 8: for anybody. Devin Witherspoon, I mean just his play style.

847
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 8: To me, it just screams who would you compare?

848
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 5: Who would you say that the Cowboys have that you

849
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 5: just say individually, these guys would impress you.

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Speaker 8: I mean quinnin Williams is one. I take him off

851
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 8: the table. Would oversho one of those guys before the injury?

852
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 8: Before the injury, I mean his speed and just ability

853
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 8: to go sideline, the sideline when he made him an

854
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 8: electric player, just you know that was he wasn't just

855
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 8: like a try hard guy. You could see the talent

856
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 8: in him. Other than that, since Darun Bland the foot injuries,

857
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's limited his production. But before that,

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Speaker 8: I mean obviously set records. Those I mean, so those

859
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 8: are the only three guys that I could point to.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, let me just kid Clark.

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure, yeah, all right, got much more to get

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Speaker 4: to here on this edition of Mixed Shots in just

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Speaker 13: We will do it. It keeps singing the wrong lyrics to

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Speaker 13: a song, even though you know they will you stick

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Speaker 13: with them?

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Speaker 8: So what you're saying is it's I love you, babe,

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Speaker 8: and not lessign.

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Speaker 13: Your babe reminds me of our people might be sticking

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Speaker 13: with the wrong insoors, but switching to Guico can get

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Speaker 13: you the right cover for the right price.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, this whole time I thought fire in my

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Speaker 5: I remember that.

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Speaker 4: So he always was on the sidelight. That's it wasn't

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Speaker 7: So it's been that way the whole show.

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Speaker 5: I don't know I heard him earlier. I don't know. Probably, yeah,

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Speaker 7: All right, all right, only on Mixed Shots.

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Speaker 4: Well, we just got about twelve minutes left here on

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Speaker 4: this episode of mix Shots. So much happened during the

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00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 4: last week that we need to get to. So makey

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Speaker 4: Where would you like to start on the happenings of

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Speaker 4: the last week?

931
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Speaker 7: How about Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we start on Thursday night NFL Honors.

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Speaker 7: Neither Cowboy made.

934
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Speaker 4: It, Jason Witten or Darren Woodson.

935
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Speaker 7: Only four got in. Only four got in.

936
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Speaker 4: Roger Craig got in. Out of the five that were

937
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Speaker 4: finalists from the seniors. You can have as many as

938
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 4: three three, right, they got to do something about it,

939
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Speaker 4: So people didn't they they're getting split. The votes are

940
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Speaker 4: getting split.

941
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Speaker 7: That's what happened.

942
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Speaker 4: And last year of the Modern Day finalists, only three

943
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: got in. And this year, only four got in, and

944
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Speaker 4: those are all deserving getting in two teams.

945
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Speaker 7: With another guy they could have got in.

946
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've missed on three spots here in the

947
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Speaker 4: last two years. Yes, they've got to fix that in

948
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Speaker 4: the voting process. What is it, eighty percent of the vote?

949
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Speaker 4: Eighty percent of the vote.

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Speaker 7: You got to get forty out of fifty.

951
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got to. There's plenty of candidates who are

952
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: worthy of being in the Hall of Fame, and what's

953
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Speaker 4: happening is they're splitting the votes.

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Speaker 7: Two more years, two more years he's eligible before he

955
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Speaker 7: goes into the seniors, so he's running out of time.

956
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Speaker 4: So they're splitting the votes, and so the true vote

957
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Speaker 4: is not happening because people are saying, well, I got

958
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Speaker 4: to vote, I'm going to make this guy wait because

959
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 4: I like this guy over here, and so they're not

960
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Speaker 4: voting truly, and so we're not filling up the class.

961
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Speaker 4: And so now you're creating even more of a backlog.

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Speaker 7: So what they need to do is separate take from

963
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Speaker 7: take the top five votes. Yeah, and with the others

964
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Speaker 7: vote for the three senior guys. Right, that's separate. They

965
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 7: nominate the contributor and the coach. Just vote for one

966
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Speaker 7: for each one's right for each one, and if that

967
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Speaker 7: guy gets eighty percent, you say, yeah, he's in. Right,

968
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Speaker 7: that's the way it needs to be. Now, you've got

969
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Speaker 7: five guys there and the vote for three, and I'm

970
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Speaker 7: sure people are sitting there, you know, they're coming up

971
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Speaker 7: with all the reasons why Belichick we talked about, right,

972
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Speaker 7: why he didn't get in. Well, I'm sure they were

973
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Speaker 7: sitting there, going, well, these other guys, they're getting older

974
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Speaker 7: and we need them.

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Speaker 4: To think about the three player senior finalists. Yes, if

976
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Speaker 4: you're gonna do eighty percent and you can only vote

977
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Speaker 4: for one of them, none of them are gonna get

978
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Speaker 4: eighty percent because everybody's got a favorite among those three, right,

979
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Speaker 4: you know, So just make it one finalist and if

980
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Speaker 4: he gets eighty percent of the vote, he gets in.

981
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Speaker 4: It's easy. Yeah, And on the modern net ones, I

982
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Speaker 4: don't care whether you got seventy percent of the vote, whatever.

983
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Speaker 4: You take the top five until while we've got this backlog,

984
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Speaker 4: and if you get to a point that you know,

985
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Speaker 4: ten years from now, where okay these guys are, I

986
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Speaker 4: don't know if they got the laurels or not, then

987
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: you can go back to your eighty percent. But let's

988
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Speaker 4: get rid of this backlog because, as Everson said, there's

989
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 4: thirty two teams playing. We've been playing this game for

990
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Speaker 4: over one hundred years, and there's three hundred and eighty

991
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Speaker 4: people in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 7: Right like baseball, right right?

993
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: And baseball they're hard pressed to even find people to

994
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: get to vote in because no one's eligible more because

995
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: of the steroids scandal.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's a good.

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Speaker 8: One, guys. I agree with everything y'all just said. I

998
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 8: just want to tell you nothing's going to change. This

999
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 8: convoluted process is going to continue. And the more it continues,

1000
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Speaker 8: the more ticked off people are going to be.

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Speaker 1: Year in And you don't think they're going to change anything.

1002
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 8: And I think when you have a guy like Craft

1004
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 8: and Belichick that are left off, I mean, I mean,

1005
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 8: can you go any lower when you I mean for

1006
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 8: a guy that has had Somebody was reading the stat

1007
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Speaker 8: about the amount the percentage of Super Bowls that Belichick

1008
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 8: had been been in on. I think it was like

1009
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Speaker 8: thirteen twelve percent of all the Super Bowls played that

1010
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 8: he's been He's been on the sidelines for so I mean,

1011
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 8: that's crazy from a coaching perspective and accomplishment for him

1012
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 8: to be not on the list. And so I mean

1013
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 8: we were talking about it last week with Darren Woodson.

1014
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Speaker 5: It ticks me off.

1015
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 8: It ticks me off, pisses me off for him not

1016
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 8: to be a Hall of Famer. And whether you call me,

1017
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 8: I don't know, man, it's a favorite favoritism a.

1018
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: Guy you like, don't. I mean? This is it is getting.

1019
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 8: Passed overkilled and disrespectful for a player of his statue,

1020
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 8: stature and for what he's done and his contribution.

1021
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 7: So especially since there was one open spot that could

1022
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 7: have been filmed and it.

1023
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 8: Doesn't, and it doesn't and again last year, and I

1024
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 8: just I want to be I want to say this.

1025
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 8: When I saw Roger Craig, I said to myself, Hell,

1026
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 8: I can't believe that Roger Craig wasn't already a Hall

1027
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 8: of Famer, Right, What you.

1028
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: Mean to tell me? Hall of Roger Craig was.

1029
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: What he went through twenty years of being eligible and

1030
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: didn't get in.

1031
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 8: What whoa if anybody was watching football in the eighth

1032
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 8: Roger Craig wasn't a Hall of Famer.

1033
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, Everson Walls.

1034
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 5: Is it, you know, talking about Roger You're talking about

1035
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 5: a team that he was a major part of. Yeah,

1036
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: I mean it's a historical team quarterback for super Bowls.

1037
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, man, you're gonna tell me that

1038
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: Roger Craig wasn't instrumental in any of that at all.

1039
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: I'll give you another guy that was eligible last year

1040
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: and this year, and you had two spots last year

1041
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: and you had one spot this year. Carell sucks. He's

1042
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 4: got a one hundred and thirty nine sacks in his career,

1043
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: he's got a super Bowl ring, all right, he played

1044
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 4: like seventeen years in the league and he can't get in.

1045
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 4: And when you've got a spot open right there?

1046
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 5: Always added let me let me say this, who came

1047
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: up with the idea that the media is supposed to

1048
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 5: be ahead of this? Why was it because the NFL

1049
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 5: owners said, we need a connection to the people, So

1050
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 5: let's give the media part of this whole thing that

1051
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 5: we got going on, this NF the growth of this

1052
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 5: NFL is is that why the media is part of this,

1053
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 5: this this process or really a heading this process? Who

1054
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: decided that? Did the owners decide that? So that they

1055
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 5: can get more coverage from the papers.

1056
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: I'm just separate from the NFL. The NFL.

1057
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 7: It's independent of the NFL.

1058
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 4: Which is why like Warren Moon when his Canadian Football

1059
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 4: League stats count for his Hall of Fame candidacy football.

1060
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1061
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: So Cavante Terpin his arena, his indoor football league stuff

1062
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: that when.

1063
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 6: He comes up, well we know who will vote for him. Yes,

1064
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 6: all right?

1065
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 4: Any what other stuff from you know, things going on

1066
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia right now, Jeff Stoutland, they're highly respected offensive

1067
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 4: line coach out there's offensive well it was his own doing.

1068
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: He wasn't happy with their new offensive coordinator comes in

1069
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 4: and he's not supposedly not going to be the run

1070
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: game coordinator in the morning, said well enough of that then,

1071
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: you know, and then there's even talk that Lane Johnson

1072
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: contemplating retirement, maybe even Landon Dickerson as well. You know,

1073
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: Dickerson came into the league with back issues and he

1074
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: hadn't been he hadn't been in the league for very long.

1075
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: But he's got some health issues going on, and so

1076
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: you know some sometimes.

1077
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson would be big, a big blow, ye.

1078
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 7: Right, Jerry say anything from the West coast. That caught

1079
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 7: your attention?

1080
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 4: What about you? Not? Really?

1081
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 7: I was wondering if maybe I missed something. I mean,

1082
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 7: they were making a big eyed deal out of well

1083
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 7: Jerry said that they'll give Pickens the franchise tag. Well, no, kiddy,

1084
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 7: what the hell are you going to let him go in?

1085
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: They got to report something on the Super Bowl week?

1086
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 4: They got to report something, So I'm glad.

1087
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 8: I don't know how we almost got through the show

1088
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 8: without mentioning that the Cowboys have be playing in Brazil next.

1089
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: So I mean, get your passport ready.

1090
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 7: Blame it on reels so.

1091
00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 8: You have another city and I still make it.

1092
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you start trigging, you beat root play.

1093
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 7: Anyway that I think I would have rather seen Paris.

1094
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: But Rio does Paris want to see football? They getting one.

1095
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: The Saints are going. They don't know who they're playing.

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Speaker 5: Of course the Saints.

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Speaker 7: It makes sense, yea French connect New Orleans?

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Speaker 8: So is my question is is that the only because

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Speaker 8: I think the Cowboys that put it off. It's something

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Speaker 8: I was reading the other day. The Cowboys that put

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Speaker 8: off going to take that game, and is either Mexico

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Speaker 8: or just taking any international.

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Speaker 7: Game by giving up a home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by giving up.

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Speaker 8: So is there any other consideration, Uh, dude, because I

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Speaker 8: think some teams is a Jacksonville seems like Jacksonville plays twas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were going to move that team, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think they'll continue to play two games there.

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Speaker 1: Two games okay Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean maybe they would be permanent

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Speaker 7: because they weren't drawing in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: And the commissioner. The commissioner says he wants to play

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Speaker 4: sixteen games a year out of the country, one for

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Speaker 4: each team, for every team.

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Speaker 8: But get your Yeah, that's why, that's why the NFL

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Speaker 8: is king. But you know, it's we may not be

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Speaker 8: going towards a eighteen game season, and it's it's maybe

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Speaker 8: getting close, but at least two bys within the season,

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Speaker 8: because you would have to those teams that are playing

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Speaker 8: earlier in the season, they end up having to take

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Speaker 8: a bye week right after that game. And that's I mean,

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Speaker 8: you try and schedule your bye week late in the season,

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Speaker 8: at least mid season. So maybe that's one of the

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Speaker 8: changes that you make as a rules committee gets together

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Speaker 8: here in the next couple of months.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm the NFL PA, I'm making that I'm not

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Speaker 7: approving it until I get the extra bye and I

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Speaker 7: get a larger fifty three man roster, because I've got

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Speaker 7: to able to supplements the amount of injuries that are

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Speaker 7: a little cur over eighteen games. And I think that's

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Speaker 7: what got to because they were way against it when

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Speaker 7: it came up at the Super Bowl meeting.

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Speaker 5: With all these injuries that we've had. Yes, it has

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Speaker 5: anything to.

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Speaker 4: Do with and I think so. And because we do

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Speaker 4: have a lot of Yes, I mean, we're good hard

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Speaker 4: most important games of the year. You've got guy and

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Speaker 4: literally the ninety man roster you have in August, those

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Speaker 4: guys and everyone talks about all these preseason games don't matter.

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Speaker 4: There are a ton of guys playing in those preseason

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Speaker 4: games who wind up being on practice squads and they

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Speaker 4: are essential players in December because of so many injuries

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Speaker 4: and with the different ways you can use the injured

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Speaker 4: reserve and so forth and bring players back, that sort

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Speaker 4: of thing. But the extra bye week will be helpful

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Speaker 4: and reaching the goal that the NFL has, which is

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Speaker 4: like to play the Super Bowl at the end of

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Speaker 4: February rather than than and they're getting close the next year. Again,

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Speaker 4: it's February fourteenth. It's Valentine's Oh lord, yeah, that's oh okay.

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Speaker 7: Did you plan it that way?

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Speaker 4: Of course you can enjoy it a long way.

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Speaker 5: Life doesn't have to.

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Speaker 4: So you need to take your bride to Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: sixty one, all right, where Jerry will be five miles

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Speaker 4: from his place of birth.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: We'll go there, all right.

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Speaker 7: Do we have to finish on time?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Twelve oh one pastime?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well that's on time for us.

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Speaker 4: That's right, all right, and so we'll shout at you.

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Speaker 4: Not on Monday next week we're going because it's a

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Speaker 4: holiday on Monday. We're going Tuesday at nine am, Go Cowboys.

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Speaker 12: Go