Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted Cruz ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you, Senator. Nice to be with you as always.
Speaker 1: And there is new intel coming out that the Biden
Speaker 1: administration may be welcoming a whole lot of refugees from
Speaker 1: Gaza as part of their new plan.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. There's breaking news that the Biden
Speaker 2: White House is considering allowing refugees to come from Gaza,
Speaker 2: which would be an enormous national security thread. It makes
Speaker 2: no sense at all. We're going to talk about that
Speaker 2: and examine what they're talking about. We also now have
Speaker 2: new data on the cities that the Biden administration is
Speaker 2: flying illegal immigrants too all over the country. We've got
Speaker 2: numbers and breakdown. We're going to get into that. And finally,
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Speaker 2: We're going to discuss that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk to you real quick about
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Speaker 1: about this plan. And I'm still trying to get my
Speaker 1: head around what the play is here politically, except that
Speaker 1: they're trying to signal to young people that are on
Speaker 1: these college campuses, Hey, we're not in favor of Israel
Speaker 1: by any means, stick with us. And then while all
Speaker 1: that's going on, they signal that we're going to allow
Speaker 1: a bunch of refugees to come to America.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 2: Look, it is absolutely crazy. The White House has put
Speaker 2: out a store. Here's the CBS headline, quote, white House
Speaker 2: considers welcoming some Palestinians from war torn Gaza as refugees.
Speaker 2: And what CBS reported is quote the Biden administration is
Speaker 2: considering bringing certain Palestinians to the US's refugees, a move
Speaker 2: that would offer a permanent safe haven to some of
Speaker 2: those fleeing war torn Gaza, according to internal federal government
Speaker 2: documents obtained by CBS News in recent weeks, the document
Speaker 2: show senior US officials across several federal agencies have discussed
Speaker 2: the practicality of different options to resettle Palestinians from Gaza
Speaker 2: who have immediate family members who are American citizens or
Speaker 2: permanent residents. One of those proposals involves using the decades
Speaker 2: old United States Refugee Admissions program to welcome Palestinians with
Speaker 2: US ties who have managed to escape Gaza and enter
Speaker 2: neighboring Egypt. According to the interagency planning documents, top US
Speaker 2: officials have also discussed getting additional Palestinians out of Gaza
Speaker 2: and processing them as refugees if they have American relatives.
Speaker 2: The document show the plan would require coordination with Egypt,
Speaker 2: which is so far refused to welcome large numbers of
Speaker 2: people from Gaza. So understand this, Egypt, which is a
Speaker 2: direct neighbor of Gaza, is saying we don't want these
Speaker 2: refugees here. And by the way, the reason the refugees
Speaker 2: don't want the Egyptians don't want them there is they're
Speaker 2: afraid of terrorism. They're afraid that there are too many
Speaker 2: Hamas terrorists that are part of the so called refugees,
Speaker 2: and they don't want them committing acts of terrorism and
Speaker 2: violence in Egypt, and yet the Biden administration is saying, well, heck,
Speaker 2: we'd love to have them here, like like this is
Speaker 2: a level of insanity. In the wake of October seventh,
Speaker 2: and the wake of this grotesque terror attack that murdered
Speaker 2: twelve hundred Israelis, that murdered Americans, that raped women and
Speaker 2: little girls, the reaction of the Biden w light house
Speaker 2: is well, we need to welcome more of these folks
Speaker 2: into America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the timing of this is incredibly questionable. You
Speaker 1: look at what the crackdowns that were finally seeing on
Speaker 1: college campuses right now, Senator, we're saying hundreds that have
Speaker 1: been arrested, for example Columbia, other universities where this is
Speaker 1: happening as well, And the timing seems to be in
Speaker 1: essence perfect, like, hey, we're still with you guys. I
Speaker 1: know you guys are kind of getting rid of your
Speaker 1: encampments and you're getting arrested, but just know we really
Speaker 1: are on your side.
Speaker 2: Well, it really is remarkable how terrified that the so
Speaker 2: called mainstream Democrats are of ticking off the radical left
Speaker 2: in their party. The Democrat Party has a problem right now.
Speaker 2: It has a hard anti Semitism problem. There is literally
Speaker 2: a pro Haamas wing of the Democrat Party. And we've
Speaker 2: talked about this before. It's not just the squad, it's
Speaker 2: not just the radicals. Joe is terrified of them. Chuck
Speaker 2: Schumer is terrified of them. Nancy Pelosi is terrified of them.
Speaker 2: And they are really they're really setting the agendas. Why
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has so so carefully avoided speaking out with
Speaker 2: any clarity on the topic because he wants he wants
Speaker 2: the votes of the anti Israel, the anti Semitic protesters.
Speaker 2: He's trying to to to get support from them, and
Speaker 2: he and the other Democrats view that as a major
Speaker 2: portion of today's Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: What does the oversight look like and can they go
Speaker 1: around Congress completely to allow refugees in from from guys
Speaker 1: as specifically, how many could this be? How big could
Speaker 1: this program get?
Speaker 2: Well, we don't know the answers to that right now.
Speaker 2: I will tell you in the Senate the chances of
Speaker 2: their being meaningful oversight is is really quite low. The
Speaker 2: The White House gave a statement to CBS on Tuesday
Speaker 2: night that said the US has quote helped more than
Speaker 2: eighteen hundred American citizens and their families leave Gaza, many
Speaker 2: of whom have come to the United States at President
Speaker 2: Biden's direction. We have also helped and will continue to
Speaker 2: help some particularly vulnerable individuals, such as children with serious
Speaker 2: health problems and children who are receiving treatment for cancer,
Speaker 2: get out of harm's way and receive care at nearby
Speaker 2: hospitals in the region. The statement went on to say
Speaker 2: that the US quote categorically rejects any actions leading to
Speaker 2: the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank,
Speaker 2: or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza. The best
Speaker 2: pass forward is to achieve a sustainable ceasefire through a
Speaker 2: hostage deal that will stabilize the situation and pave the
Speaker 2: way to a two state solution. So the White House, remember,
Speaker 2: these are internal documents from the government where they're discussing plans. Hey,
Speaker 2: how many refugees can we bring from Gaza to America?
Speaker 2: And you've got US officials going back and forth on
Speaker 2: different programs they can used to do that. It's not
Speaker 2: clear who chose to leak those documents or what their
Speaker 2: motivation was. The motivation could well be what you suggested
Speaker 2: it could have been a political decision by the White
Speaker 2: House to show some love to the pro Hamas wing
Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party, and that may well have been
Speaker 2: part of the motivation. But in terms of oversight, look,
Speaker 2: the sad thing is in the Senate. As long as
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer is the majority leader, he has zero interest
Speaker 2: on oversight on this question. The Democrats have zero interest
Speaker 2: on oversight on this question. Remember, just a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, I forced a vote on the Senate floor
Speaker 2: to block the Biden administration from giving additional billions of
Speaker 2: dollars to Iran to the Ayahtola. And by the way,
Speaker 2: Iran funds ninety percent of a MAAS. So it was
Speaker 2: a very simple amendment, stop giving money that goes to
Speaker 2: Hamas to kill Jews and to kill Americans. And every
Speaker 2: single Democrat at but one voted no. That's where they
Speaker 2: are so on bringing people from Gaza who could be terrorists,
Speaker 2: who could endanger the safety of American citizens here. It
Speaker 2: does not surprise me that's what this administration is talking
Speaker 2: about doing, because it's clear that's where their sympathies and
Speaker 2: their loyalties lie.
Speaker 1: And the rhetoric's going to be exactly what you described, Senator.
Speaker 1: They're going to say, look, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are innocent, you should be compassionate and loving, and
Speaker 1: those that need, you know, for humanitarian reasons. But seventy
Speaker 1: two percent of Palatinians believe quote that Hamasa's decision to
Speaker 1: launch the October seventh attack was correct, which goes back
Speaker 1: to what you were saying a moment ago about other
Speaker 1: countries in the regions, saying we don't want these refugees
Speaker 1: here because we're afraid about terrorism. Well, if seventy two
Speaker 1: percent of Palatinans believe that Hamas's decision to launch the
Speaker 1: attack was the right decision, then we have a real
Speaker 1: concern about who may be coming into this country.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. And by the way, the polling
Speaker 2: your sighting. That's the results of the latest polls by
Speaker 2: the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, and it
Speaker 2: was conducted in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip
Speaker 2: between November twenty second and December second of two thousand
Speaker 2: and three, and that period witnessed the October seventh launch.
Speaker 2: So this was a little bit over a month after
Speaker 2: October seventh, and I got to tell you those numbers
Speaker 2: seventy two percent. The sample size of the poll was
Speaker 2: twelve hundred and thirty one adults, of whom seven hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty were interviewed face to face in the West
Speaker 2: Bank and four hundred and eighty one in the Gaza
Speaker 2: Strip in one hundred and twenty one randomly selected locations.
Speaker 2: And so if you look at this, and we also
Speaker 2: know in the Gaza Strip, residents were interviewed in twenty
Speaker 2: four shelter locations, of which twenty belonged to UNRA, the
Speaker 2: UN agency that Hamas terrorist worked for and for to
Speaker 2: governmental institutions. A total of two hundred and fifty interviews
Speaker 2: were covered in these shelters. Is another twenty one were
Speaker 2: conducted in the homes of relatives and friends of displaced
Speaker 2: people from the North and the numbers findings indicate that
Speaker 2: a majority of respondents believe that Hamas's decision to carry
Speaker 2: out the offensive is correct and believe that the attack
Speaker 2: came in response to quote, settler attacks on the al
Speaker 2: Asqua Mosque and West Bank residents and for the release
Speaker 2: of Palestinian prisoners. Those numbers, and it goes on to
Speaker 2: say the poll says it is worth noting that there
Speaker 2: are significant differences between the attitudes of the residents of
Speaker 2: the West Bank compared to the Gaza Strip in terms
Speaker 2: of the correctness of Hamasa's decisions, as the attitude of
Speaker 2: Gazans tend to show a greater degree of skepticism of
Speaker 2: that decision. I'll tell you the videos I've watched of
Speaker 2: October seventh, when Hamas terrorists are coming back to Gaza,
Speaker 2: and they're coming back to Gaza and they're bringing Israeli hostages.
Speaker 2: They're bringing women, they're bringing children that are beaten, that
Speaker 2: are bleeding. Some of them have gunshot wounds, some of
Speaker 2: them have have, you know, very very serious injuries. They're
Speaker 2: dragging them out of the truck into the truck.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Some of them have have injuries that are consistent with
Speaker 2: with with violent forcible rape. They're they're bleeding, uh from
Speaker 2: from their bleeding from where they would being the victims
Speaker 2: of those kinds of attacks. And the reactions ben of
Speaker 2: Palestinians and gaza Is. You see hundreds of them cheering
Speaker 2: in celebration as they are watching these hostages dragged out
Speaker 2: clearly suffering serious abuse. And and we're not talking just
Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists. We're talking just in the town square
Speaker 2: when they come back that the reaction is cheering. Who
Speaker 2: the hell in their right mind would say, you know,
Speaker 2: what we really need is the people committing these atrocities,
Speaker 2: the people cheering on these atrocities. We need them here
Speaker 2: in America. That sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the other question I have for your final
Speaker 1: question on this is we've seen this administration be incredibly
Speaker 1: deceptive towards the American people, towards the taxpayers. We've seen
Speaker 1: them fly flights at which we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: in a minute, into random cities in America without giving
Speaker 1: notice to those cities. I'm assuming if they want to
Speaker 1: start importing people from Gaza, they would use the same
Speaker 1: exact tactics as they've been using all over the country
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: I think that is absolutely right. They would do it surreptitiously,
Speaker 2: they would hide it. That's how they've handled this border invasion.
Speaker 2: They lie about it. Alojandro Majorca still says our southern
Speaker 2: border is secure. They're perfectly happy to lie about it.
Speaker 2: And listen. From day one, the Biden administration has undermined
Speaker 2: Israel and has sent money to people who hate us
Speaker 2: and people who want to kill us. They've sent billions
Speaker 2: of dollars to Iran, They've sent hundreds of millions of
Speaker 2: dollars to Gaza that in turn has an almost almost
Speaker 2: certainly flowed to Hamas. And they want to continue doing that.
Speaker 2: That that is their commitment, and so I think I
Speaker 2: think this threat is real. These people are zealous. These
Speaker 2: are also people who look at the viciously anti Semitic
Speaker 2: protests at Columbia and Yale and NYU and UCLA and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're with those folks, and we need
Speaker 2: more people like them.
Speaker 3: And it's really.
Speaker 2: I think this is really revealing a divide that is
Speaker 2: frightening and scary, and it's not a divide that normal
Speaker 2: people in their normal lives encounter. It is the radicals
Speaker 2: who are more and more taking over the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2: And Ben I want to dig a little bit more
Speaker 2: into these poll results because they're deeply concerning. So the
Speaker 2: results of the poll, as you noted's seventy two percent
Speaker 2: of the public believe that Hamas's decisions to decision to
Speaker 2: launch the October seventh attack was correct. A majority fifty
Speaker 2: three percent believe that Israel's war objective is to destroy
Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip and to kill or expel its residents,
Speaker 2: and forty two percent believe it is to take revenge
Speaker 2: on Hamas and the resistance and to destroy them. A
Speaker 2: majority believes Israel will fail to achieve these goals. Eighty
Speaker 2: five percent have not seen any videos showing atrocities committed
Speaker 2: by Hamas against Israeli citizens. On October seventh and over,
Speaker 2: only seven percent say Hamas committed atrocities against Israeli civilians.
Speaker 2: Let me repeat that, because that is horrifying. They did
Speaker 2: a poll of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the
Speaker 2: West Bank and only seven percent will admit that Hamas
Speaker 2: committed atrocities against Israeli civilians. So they're truthers who are
Speaker 2: denying October seventh even happen. Seventy percent seven zero percent
Speaker 2: of West Bankers and half of Gazans expect Hamas to
Speaker 2: emerge victorious. That is deeply frightening. And the Biden administration
Speaker 2: is talking about wanting to bring to America a group
Speaker 2: of people of whom ninety three percent of them deny
Speaker 2: that Hamas committed atrocities against civilians, which is indisputable. They
Speaker 2: filmed it and put out the videos. They're very proud
Speaker 2: of it, and yet that this population is so radicalized
Speaker 2: that they don't believe it's true.
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Speaker 1: that was, there's real consensus and the polling data that
Speaker 1: Biden's border policy and specifically when it comes to safety
Speaker 1: and national security issues, is disastrous. But we're learning now
Speaker 1: more about internal Department of Homeland Security data revealing the
Speaker 1: forty five plus US cities that hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: migrants have flown into via the Biden administration's per mass
Speaker 1: parole program that they refused to disclose the public where
Speaker 1: all of these illegal immigrants are being dropped off, and
Speaker 1: you apparently have no right to know who they are
Speaker 1: or even where they're coming from.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right, Ben, and we did a pod
Speaker 2: on this topic when when the story first broke about
Speaker 2: the Biden administration's program that wasn't just dealing with illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants who crossed the border and stream across our southern border,
Speaker 2: but actually was arranging flights to come in for illegal
Speaker 2: immigrants to come into cities all across the country. And
Speaker 2: at the time, the Biden administration's position was, we're not
Speaker 2: going to tell you where they're coming. We can't tell
Speaker 2: you because it's a national security risk, and so they
Speaker 2: refused to tell us. Well, we now have data from
Speaker 2: DHS that that covers an eight month period, so it
Speaker 2: is from January through August of twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: there are about two hundred thousand illegal immigrants who flew
Speaker 2: into the US using the program. And we have the breakdown.
Speaker 2: Let me give you the top fifteen cities and how
Speaker 2: many came. The number one city the Biden administration flew
Speaker 2: people illegal immigrants into was Miami, Florida ninety one, eight
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one. The number two city, Fort Lawerdale, Florida,
Speaker 2: sixty thousand, four hundred and sixty one. The number three city,
Speaker 2: New York City fourteen thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Number four You're in my hometown Houston, Texas seven thousand,
Speaker 2: nine hundred and twenty three. Number five Orlando, Florida six
Speaker 2: thousand and forty three, Number six Los Angeles, California three thousand,
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy one. Number seven Tampa, Florida three thousand,
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty seven. Number eight Dallas, Texas two thousand,
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty six. Number nine San Francisco, California
Speaker 2: two thousand and fifty two, Number ten Atlanta, Georgia one thousand,
Speaker 2: seven hundred ninety six, Number eleven, Newark, New Jersey, one thousand,
Speaker 2: four hundred ninety eight, Number twelve, Washington, d C. One thousand,
Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy two, Number thirteen, Chicago, Illinois, four
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety seven, Number fourteen, Las Vegas, Nevada, four
Speaker 2: hundred eighty three, and number fifteen. Rounding out the top
Speaker 2: fifteen Austin, Texas with one hundred and seventy one. And
Speaker 2: so those are now what's striking. They're sending the vast
Speaker 2: majority of the illegal immigrants in this program to Florida
Speaker 2: and Texas. Florida is getting hammered. Just Miami and Fort
Speaker 2: Lauderdale have over one hundred and fifty thousand that are
Speaker 2: going there. And actually blue cities and blue states get
Speaker 2: relatively few, so they're really hammering Florida and Texas. That's
Speaker 2: one obvious conclusion of this. A second conclusion, Look, the
Speaker 2: White House is trying to spend well, no, no, these
Speaker 2: are not illegal immigrants because we're letting them in using
Speaker 2: legal authorities. Well, I can tell you that that in litigation.
Speaker 2: Here's what DHS wrote in response to a subpoena quote.
Speaker 2: DHS said all individuals paroled into the United States are
Speaker 2: by definition inadmissible, including those paroled under the CHNV processes,
Speaker 2: which is what this program is. And to give you
Speaker 2: a sense of the numbers on this program, CBP says
Speaker 2: at least four hundred and four thousand illegal immigrants have
Speaker 2: flown to the US using this program, and the breakdown
Speaker 2: we know of one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians,
Speaker 2: ninety five thousand Venezuelans, eighty four thousand Cubans, and sixty
Speaker 2: nine thousand Nicaraguans.
Speaker 1: This is again the reason why they were trying to
Speaker 1: hide this. It's also the reason why they have not
Speaker 1: been informing state we're talking about governors or local municipalities
Speaker 1: of who they're bringing in, because they knew there would
Speaker 1: probably be a lot of people that would say, no,
Speaker 1: we don't want to deal with this, No, please don't
Speaker 1: drop them off here.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and it's interesting also, So the number
Speaker 2: three city was New York City, and then the number
Speaker 2: again was fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven, so it
Speaker 2: was a lot less than went to Miami or Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2: What's interesting, though, is is we know that the mayor
Speaker 2: of New York, a liberal Democrat who has declared at
Speaker 2: a crisis, said it's an emergency, said illegal immigration is
Speaker 2: destroying New York City. He has blamed what he called
Speaker 2: that madman from Texas, and as we've talked about, I'm
Speaker 2: actually disappointed that he's talking about Greg Abbott, not me.
Speaker 2: I wonder what I have to do to qualify for
Speaker 2: that insult from the mayor of New York City. But
Speaker 2: Texas has sent to New York City roughly ten thousand
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. So if he's blaming that mad man, well,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has sent fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven
Speaker 2: and that's just using this one program that doesn't measure
Speaker 2: the other thousands that Biden has sent that crossed the
Speaker 2: border illegally on the southern border, and that Biden put
Speaker 2: on a bus or a plane. But yet the Democrat
Speaker 2: mayor of New York can't actually blame the person responsible,
Speaker 2: which is Biden and for that matter, Chuck Schumer and
Speaker 2: every other Democrat in Congress.
Speaker 3: Will this change that moved the needle at all? Do
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 1: Because we know where may Adams has now been saying,
Speaker 1: and we know about even in places like Colorado where
Speaker 1: they're having to get rid of people in law enforcement
Speaker 1: for goodness sakes, and letting people go in New York
Speaker 1: to cover for the cost that it is to take
Speaker 1: care of all of these illegal immigrants. At least seeing
Speaker 1: the disclosures and the number of people involved, could this
Speaker 1: move the needle a little bit?
Speaker 2: Well, ask yourself this, how many of the home newspapers
Speaker 2: where this data were reported actually covered it, How many
Speaker 2: of them covered it on the front page, How many
Speaker 2: of them had a headline. I feel confident that the
Speaker 2: New York Times in New York City does not have
Speaker 2: a headline Biden administration flew fourteen, eight hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: seven illegal immigrants to New York City that I would
Speaker 2: be surprised if you can read it anywhere in the
Speaker 2: New York Times, and if you look at newspaper by newspaper.
Speaker 2: I certainly haven't read it in the Chronicle and Houston,
Speaker 2: Houston was number four. It may have been covered to
Speaker 2: the Chronicle. I haven't searched it. But but you know,
Speaker 2: the media doesn't want to cover these numbers. You know
Speaker 2: that Democrats don't want to admit these numbers, and so
Speaker 2: their plan is going to be the same as their
Speaker 2: plan consistently has been, which is, ignore the crisis, pretend
Speaker 2: it's not happened, count on the silence and complicity of
Speaker 2: the media to cover this up. Because I got to say,
Speaker 2: if you live in any of those fifteen cities, you
Speaker 2: ought to be pissed off. And by the way, you know,
Speaker 2: I gave the numbers of the biggest group that has
Speaker 2: been flown in our Haitians, and it was at least
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians. We've talked about.
Speaker 2: One of those Haitians was flown to Boston, Massachusetts, and
Speaker 2: he was just recently arrested for raping a fifteen year
Speaker 2: old girl who was severely mentally handicapped. And I got
Speaker 2: to say, if you're the parents of that girl, and
Speaker 2: the Biden administration literally flew the rapist from Haiti to
Speaker 2: Boston and then released him where he attacked your daughter,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the frustration at the utter insanity of
Speaker 2: that policy.
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Speaker 1: get into something else. It's a very important piece of
Speaker 1: legislation that you're working on, and I have actually seen
Speaker 1: a little bit of this be talked about on social
Speaker 1: There are some people that don't actually think they understand
Speaker 1: the intent of what we're trying to accomplish when it
Speaker 1: comes to protecting kids on social media. So explain why
Speaker 1: this legislation is something that parents really need to know about.
Speaker 2: Well, this is legislation I introduced this week, and it's
Speaker 2: bipartisan legislation. I teamed up with Brian Shotts, who's a
Speaker 2: Democrat from Hawaii, and the bill is called the Kids
Speaker 2: Off Social Media Act, and it does several things Number one,
Speaker 2: it prohibits children under thirteen from accessing social media. So kids,
Speaker 2: there's no reason for an eight or nine year old
Speaker 2: to be on TikTok or to be on social media.
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of harmful things, I'll tell you. Listen,
Speaker 2: you and I are both parents, and any parent who
Speaker 2: is dealing with I'm dealing with teenagers. Your kids are
Speaker 2: not teenagers yet, but but if you blink, they will be.
Speaker 2: Any parent dealing with teenagers or adolescents out to deal
Speaker 2: with phones and social media is one of the greatest
Speaker 2: challenges because phones are really a portal for kids to
Speaker 2: access all sorts of harmful content. And so this bill
Speaker 2: says if you're under thirteen, you can't be on social media.
Speaker 2: And then it says for kids younger than seventeen, big
Speaker 2: tech companies are prohibited from using algorithmic boosting to send
Speaker 2: messages to them. So we know right now, there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of testimony in the Senate that big tech
Speaker 2: companies send messages to our kids, to our teenagers that
Speaker 2: are really harmful. They send messages that undermine their body image,
Speaker 2: they send messages that encourage self harm, they send messaging
Speaker 2: that increases suicidal ideation, they send messaging that increases increases
Speaker 2: their feelings of depression and anxiety. They send messages encouraging
Speaker 2: dangerous behavior. They send messaging pushing radical beliefs, things like
Speaker 2: Prohamas beliefs. And so this bill says as if you're
Speaker 2: under seventeen, big tech cannot target using algorithm boosting to
Speaker 2: send messages that are addicting and that are harmful. And
Speaker 2: then the bill also includes a separate bill that I
Speaker 2: had introduced previously, and I introduced it with John Fetterman.
Speaker 2: It was also bipartisan, and my separate bill was called
Speaker 2: the Eyes on the Board Bill, and the Eyes on
Speaker 2: the Board Bill, which is now part of this bill,
Speaker 2: says that any school that receives federal funds has to
Speaker 2: block social media on campus. And the basic idea is,
Speaker 2: while our kids are in school, they ought to be
Speaker 2: listening to teacher, They ought to be doing school work.
Speaker 2: They don't need to be posting on Instagram while they're
Speaker 2: in school. For older kids, they can do that when
Speaker 2: they get home, but at school they ought to be
Speaker 2: focused on the school work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should be. And this is legislation that you
Speaker 1: mention is bipartisan. Here what does it look like the
Speaker 1: chances of this moving forward since it is a bipartisan
Speaker 1: piece of legislation.
Speaker 2: So I'm actually quite optimistic. We are likely to have
Speaker 2: a markup in the Senate Commerce Committee next week. I'm
Speaker 2: the ranking member, the senior Republican on the Commerce Committee,
Speaker 2: and I think it is very likely to pass the
Speaker 2: Commerce Committee with overwhelming bipartisan support. I think there's a
Speaker 2: good chance it'll pass unanimously, and I think there is
Speaker 2: a good prospect of this bill being passed into law.
Speaker 2: There are two other bills called Coosa and Kappa, that
Speaker 2: are both dealing with things like online predators targeting kids,
Speaker 2: and I think there's a real possibility of all three
Speaker 2: of these bills being put together and brought to the
Speaker 2: Senate floor, and I'm hopeful we can pass all three
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated on it.
Speaker 1: It's so important, especially preventing children under thirteen from having
Speaker 1: access these social media sites and also, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: programming those algorithms for teens younger than seventeen.
Speaker 3: This is really important.
Speaker 1: Job well done, and we'll keep everybody updated on how
Speaker 1: this looks moving forward.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and you look, I'll say something also
Speaker 2: as apparent. I mean, I mean, these are hard issues.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I talk to a lot
Speaker 2: of parents, I don't know a parent who disagrees on
Speaker 2: this issue. And that's true, right or left, that's true
Speaker 2: regardless of politics. We're all worried about our kids. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's really it's hard to be a teenager right now.
Speaker 2: The pressures on our kids. You and I didn't have
Speaker 2: these kind of pressures when we were teenagers. It's really tough.
Speaker 3: Is what is.
Speaker 2: All of the influences that are pounding our kids. And
Speaker 2: it's hard to be a parent right now. And one
Speaker 2: of the challenges because some people say, well, parents ought
Speaker 2: to just restrict this. Look, it is a hard dynamic
Speaker 2: when your kid when every student in their class is
Speaker 2: on the social media platform, when that's how the kids communicate,
Speaker 2: when that's how they schedule playdates, when that's how they interact.
Speaker 2: No parent wants to socially ostracize their kids. And so
Speaker 2: a lot of parents will talk to each other and say,
Speaker 2: I wish they were all off of it, but I'm
Speaker 2: not willing to have my kid the only one that's
Speaker 2: not able to interact with their peers and have a
Speaker 2: social life, and that's one of the reasons why, you know,
Speaker 2: it's interesting in the Senate the folks that are coming
Speaker 2: together and supporting this bill. So myself and Brian Shots
Speaker 2: and we've all also got Katie Britt. We're all about
Speaker 2: the same age. We're all in our forties or fifties,
Speaker 2: we all have kids the same age. I have to
Speaker 2: say the senators that they're in their seventies or eighties,
Speaker 2: they don't quite get this issue in the same way
Speaker 2: that if you're a parent, you're dealing with it.
Speaker 3: And so I'm.
Speaker 2: Hopeful that that that we'll see some real bipartisan agreement
Speaker 2: that we ought to enhance the tools parents have to
Speaker 2: keep their kids safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great point.
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