1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted Cruz ben Ferguson 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: with you, Senator. Nice to be with you as always. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: And there is new intel coming out that the Biden 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: administration may be welcoming a whole lot of refugees from 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Gaza as part of their new plan. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. There's breaking news that the Biden 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: White House is considering allowing refugees to come from Gaza, 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: which would be an enormous national security thread. It makes 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: no sense at all. We're going to talk about that 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: and examine what they're talking about. We also now have 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: new data on the cities that the Biden administration is 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: flying illegal immigrants too all over the country. We've got 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: numbers and breakdown. We're going to get into that. And finally, 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about a new bill that I've introduced. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: It's a bipartisan bill designed to limit kids access to 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: social media, and in particular to stop young kids from 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: getting on social media and to protect kids from all 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the negative influences that can be found on social media. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: We're going to discuss that as well. 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk to you real quick about 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: what's happening in is right now. In a way that 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: you can help and have a significant impact. It's been 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: over six months since that first brutal attack by Hamas 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: on our brothers and sisters in Israel, and since then 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: the attacks on Israel have actually increased, with Iran and 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: its proxies launching that massive attack of hundreds of drones 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: and missiles. That is where your help is needed. 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And I'm still trying to get my 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: head around what the play is here politically, except that 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: they're trying to signal to young people that are on 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: these college campuses, Hey, we're not in favor of Israel 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: by any means, stick with us. And then while all 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: that's going on, they signal that we're going to allow 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of refugees to come to America. 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Why. 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: Look, it is absolutely crazy. The White House has put 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: out a store. Here's the CBS headline, quote, white House 56 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: considers welcoming some Palestinians from war torn Gaza as refugees. 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: And what CBS reported is quote the Biden administration is 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: considering bringing certain Palestinians to the US's refugees, a move 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: that would offer a permanent safe haven to some of 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: those fleeing war torn Gaza, according to internal federal government 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: documents obtained by CBS News in recent weeks, the document 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: show senior US officials across several federal agencies have discussed 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: the practicality of different options to resettle Palestinians from Gaza 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: who have immediate family members who are American citizens or 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: permanent residents. One of those proposals involves using the decades 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: old United States Refugee Admissions program to welcome Palestinians with 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: US ties who have managed to escape Gaza and enter 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: neighboring Egypt. According to the interagency planning documents, top US 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: officials have also discussed getting additional Palestinians out of Gaza 70 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: and processing them as refugees if they have American relatives. 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: The document show the plan would require coordination with Egypt, 72 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: which is so far refused to welcome large numbers of 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: people from Gaza. So understand this, Egypt, which is a 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: direct neighbor of Gaza, is saying we don't want these 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: refugees here. And by the way, the reason the refugees 76 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: don't want the Egyptians don't want them there is they're 77 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: afraid of terrorism. They're afraid that there are too many 78 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Hamas terrorists that are part of the so called refugees, 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: and they don't want them committing acts of terrorism and 80 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: violence in Egypt, and yet the Biden administration is saying, well, heck, 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: we'd love to have them here, like like this is 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: a level of insanity. In the wake of October seventh, 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: and the wake of this grotesque terror attack that murdered 84 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: twelve hundred Israelis, that murdered Americans, that raped women and 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: little girls, the reaction of the Biden w light house 86 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: is well, we need to welcome more of these folks 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: into America. 88 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the timing of this is incredibly questionable. You 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: look at what the crackdowns that were finally seeing on 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: college campuses right now, Senator, we're saying hundreds that have 91 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: been arrested, for example Columbia, other universities where this is 92 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: happening as well, And the timing seems to be in 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: essence perfect, like, hey, we're still with you guys. I 94 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: know you guys are kind of getting rid of your 95 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: encampments and you're getting arrested, but just know we really 96 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: are on your side. 97 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, it really is remarkable how terrified that the so 98 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: called mainstream Democrats are of ticking off the radical left 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: in their party. The Democrat Party has a problem right now. 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: It has a hard anti Semitism problem. There is literally 101 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: a pro Haamas wing of the Democrat Party. And we've 102 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: talked about this before. It's not just the squad, it's 103 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: not just the radicals. Joe is terrified of them. Chuck 104 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: Schumer is terrified of them. Nancy Pelosi is terrified of them. 105 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: And they are really they're really setting the agendas. Why 106 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Joe Biden has so so carefully avoided speaking out with 107 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: any clarity on the topic because he wants he wants 108 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: the votes of the anti Israel, the anti Semitic protesters. 109 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: He's trying to to to get support from them, and 110 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: he and the other Democrats view that as a major 111 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: portion of today's Democrat Party. 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: What does the oversight look like and can they go 113 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: around Congress completely to allow refugees in from from guys 114 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: as specifically, how many could this be? How big could 115 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 1: this program get? 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, we don't know the answers to that right now. 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: I will tell you in the Senate the chances of 118 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: their being meaningful oversight is is really quite low. The 119 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: The White House gave a statement to CBS on Tuesday 120 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: night that said the US has quote helped more than 121 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: eighteen hundred American citizens and their families leave Gaza, many 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: of whom have come to the United States at President 123 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: Biden's direction. We have also helped and will continue to 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: help some particularly vulnerable individuals, such as children with serious 125 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: health problems and children who are receiving treatment for cancer, 126 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: get out of harm's way and receive care at nearby 127 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: hospitals in the region. The statement went on to say 128 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: that the US quote categorically rejects any actions leading to 129 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, 130 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza. The best 131 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: pass forward is to achieve a sustainable ceasefire through a 132 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: hostage deal that will stabilize the situation and pave the 133 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: way to a two state solution. So the White House, remember, 134 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: these are internal documents from the government where they're discussing plans. Hey, 135 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: how many refugees can we bring from Gaza to America? 136 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: And you've got US officials going back and forth on 137 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: different programs they can used to do that. It's not 138 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: clear who chose to leak those documents or what their 139 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: motivation was. The motivation could well be what you suggested 140 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: it could have been a political decision by the White 141 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: House to show some love to the pro Hamas wing 142 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party, and that may well have been 143 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: part of the motivation. But in terms of oversight, look, 144 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: the sad thing is in the Senate. As long as 145 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer is the majority leader, he has zero interest 146 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: on oversight on this question. The Democrats have zero interest 147 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: on oversight on this question. Remember, just a couple of 148 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: weeks ago, I forced a vote on the Senate floor 149 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: to block the Biden administration from giving additional billions of 150 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: dollars to Iran to the Ayahtola. And by the way, 151 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: Iran funds ninety percent of a MAAS. So it was 152 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: a very simple amendment, stop giving money that goes to 153 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: Hamas to kill Jews and to kill Americans. And every 154 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: single Democrat at but one voted no. That's where they 155 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: are so on bringing people from Gaza who could be terrorists, 156 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: who could endanger the safety of American citizens here. It 157 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: does not surprise me that's what this administration is talking 158 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: about doing, because it's clear that's where their sympathies and 159 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: their loyalties lie. 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: And the rhetoric's going to be exactly what you described, Senator. 161 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: They're going to say, look, there's a lot of people 162 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: that are innocent, you should be compassionate and loving, and 163 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: those that need, you know, for humanitarian reasons. But seventy 164 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: two percent of Palatinians believe quote that Hamasa's decision to 165 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: launch the October seventh attack was correct, which goes back 166 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: to what you were saying a moment ago about other 167 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,119 Speaker 1: countries in the regions, saying we don't want these refugees 168 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: here because we're afraid about terrorism. Well, if seventy two 169 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: percent of Palatinans believe that Hamas's decision to launch the 170 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: attack was the right decision, then we have a real 171 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: concern about who may be coming into this country. 172 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. And by the way, the polling 173 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: your sighting. That's the results of the latest polls by 174 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, and it 175 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: was conducted in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip 176 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: between November twenty second and December second of two thousand 177 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: and three, and that period witnessed the October seventh launch. 178 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: So this was a little bit over a month after 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: October seventh, and I got to tell you those numbers 180 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: seventy two percent. The sample size of the poll was 181 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: twelve hundred and thirty one adults, of whom seven hundred 182 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: and fifty were interviewed face to face in the West 183 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: Bank and four hundred and eighty one in the Gaza 184 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: Strip in one hundred and twenty one randomly selected locations. 185 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: And so if you look at this, and we also 186 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: know in the Gaza Strip, residents were interviewed in twenty 187 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: four shelter locations, of which twenty belonged to UNRA, the 188 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: UN agency that Hamas terrorist worked for and for to 189 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: governmental institutions. A total of two hundred and fifty interviews 190 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: were covered in these shelters. Is another twenty one were 191 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: conducted in the homes of relatives and friends of displaced 192 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: people from the North and the numbers findings indicate that 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: a majority of respondents believe that Hamas's decision to carry 194 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: out the offensive is correct and believe that the attack 195 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: came in response to quote, settler attacks on the al 196 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: Asqua Mosque and West Bank residents and for the release 197 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: of Palestinian prisoners. Those numbers, and it goes on to 198 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: say the poll says it is worth noting that there 199 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: are significant differences between the attitudes of the residents of 200 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: the West Bank compared to the Gaza Strip in terms 201 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: of the correctness of Hamasa's decisions, as the attitude of 202 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: Gazans tend to show a greater degree of skepticism of 203 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: that decision. I'll tell you the videos I've watched of 204 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: October seventh, when Hamas terrorists are coming back to Gaza, 205 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: and they're coming back to Gaza and they're bringing Israeli hostages. 206 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: They're bringing women, they're bringing children that are beaten, that 207 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: are bleeding. Some of them have gunshot wounds, some of 208 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: them have have, you know, very very serious injuries. They're 209 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: dragging them out of the truck into the truck. 210 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 211 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: Some of them have have injuries that are consistent with 212 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: with with violent forcible rape. They're they're bleeding, uh from 213 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: from their bleeding from where they would being the victims 214 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: of those kinds of attacks. And the reactions ben of 215 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Palestinians and gaza Is. You see hundreds of them cheering 216 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: in celebration as they are watching these hostages dragged out 217 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: clearly suffering serious abuse. And and we're not talking just 218 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists. We're talking just in the town square 219 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: when they come back that the reaction is cheering. Who 220 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: the hell in their right mind would say, you know, 221 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: what we really need is the people committing these atrocities, 222 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: the people cheering on these atrocities. We need them here 223 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: in America. That sounds like a great idea. 224 00:12:59,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 225 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: And then the other question I have for your final 226 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: question on this is we've seen this administration be incredibly 227 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: deceptive towards the American people, towards the taxpayers. We've seen 228 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: them fly flights at which we're going to talk about 229 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: in a minute, into random cities in America without giving 230 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: notice to those cities. I'm assuming if they want to 231 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: start importing people from Gaza, they would use the same 232 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: exact tactics as they've been using all over the country 233 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. 234 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: I think that is absolutely right. They would do it surreptitiously, 235 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: they would hide it. That's how they've handled this border invasion. 236 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: They lie about it. Alojandro Majorca still says our southern 237 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: border is secure. They're perfectly happy to lie about it. 238 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: And listen. From day one, the Biden administration has undermined 239 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: Israel and has sent money to people who hate us 240 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: and people who want to kill us. They've sent billions 241 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: of dollars to Iran, They've sent hundreds of millions of 242 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: dollars to Gaza that in turn has an almost almost 243 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: certainly flowed to Hamas. And they want to continue doing that. 244 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: That that is their commitment, and so I think I 245 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: think this threat is real. These people are zealous. These 246 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: are also people who look at the viciously anti Semitic 247 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: protests at Columbia and Yale and NYU and UCLA and say, 248 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: you know what, we're with those folks, and we need 249 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: more people like them. 250 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: And it's really. 251 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: I think this is really revealing a divide that is 252 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: frightening and scary, and it's not a divide that normal 253 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: people in their normal lives encounter. It is the radicals 254 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: who are more and more taking over the Democrat Party. 255 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: And Ben I want to dig a little bit more 256 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: into these poll results because they're deeply concerning. So the 257 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: results of the poll, as you noted's seventy two percent 258 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: of the public believe that Hamas's decisions to decision to 259 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: launch the October seventh attack was correct. A majority fifty 260 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: three percent believe that Israel's war objective is to destroy 261 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip and to kill or expel its residents, 262 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: and forty two percent believe it is to take revenge 263 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: on Hamas and the resistance and to destroy them. A 264 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: majority believes Israel will fail to achieve these goals. Eighty 265 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: five percent have not seen any videos showing atrocities committed 266 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: by Hamas against Israeli citizens. On October seventh and over, 267 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: only seven percent say Hamas committed atrocities against Israeli civilians. 268 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: Let me repeat that, because that is horrifying. They did 269 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: a poll of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the 270 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: West Bank and only seven percent will admit that Hamas 271 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: committed atrocities against Israeli civilians. So they're truthers who are 272 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: denying October seventh even happen. Seventy percent seven zero percent 273 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: of West Bankers and half of Gazans expect Hamas to 274 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: emerge victorious. That is deeply frightening. And the Biden administration 275 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: is talking about wanting to bring to America a group 276 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: of people of whom ninety three percent of them deny 277 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: that Hamas committed atrocities against civilians, which is indisputable. They 278 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: filmed it and put out the videos. They're very proud 279 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: of it, and yet that this population is so radicalized 280 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: that they don't believe it's true. 281 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point there. I want to talk to you 282 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: real quick about your morning routine. If you are like me, 283 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: you start your morning off with coffee. 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But we're learning now 322 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: more about internal Department of Homeland Security data revealing the 323 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: forty five plus US cities that hundreds of thousands of 324 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: migrants have flown into via the Biden administration's per mass 325 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: parole program that they refused to disclose the public where 326 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: all of these illegal immigrants are being dropped off, and 327 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: you apparently have no right to know who they are 328 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: or even where they're coming from. 329 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right, Ben, and we did a pod 330 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: on this topic when when the story first broke about 331 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: the Biden administration's program that wasn't just dealing with illegal 332 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: immigrants who crossed the border and stream across our southern border, 333 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: but actually was arranging flights to come in for illegal 334 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: immigrants to come into cities all across the country. And 335 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: at the time, the Biden administration's position was, we're not 336 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: going to tell you where they're coming. We can't tell 337 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: you because it's a national security risk, and so they 338 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: refused to tell us. Well, we now have data from 339 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: DHS that that covers an eight month period, so it 340 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: is from January through August of twenty twenty three, and 341 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: there are about two hundred thousand illegal immigrants who flew 342 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: into the US using the program. And we have the breakdown. 343 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: Let me give you the top fifteen cities and how 344 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: many came. The number one city the Biden administration flew 345 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: people illegal immigrants into was Miami, Florida ninety one, eight 346 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one. The number two city, Fort Lawerdale, Florida, 347 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: sixty thousand, four hundred and sixty one. The number three city, 348 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: New York City fourteen thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven. 349 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Number four You're in my hometown Houston, Texas seven thousand, 350 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: nine hundred and twenty three. Number five Orlando, Florida six 351 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: thousand and forty three, Number six Los Angeles, California three thousand, 352 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy one. Number seven Tampa, Florida three thousand, 353 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty seven. Number eight Dallas, Texas two thousand, 354 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty six. Number nine San Francisco, California 355 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: two thousand and fifty two, Number ten Atlanta, Georgia one thousand, 356 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: seven hundred ninety six, Number eleven, Newark, New Jersey, one thousand, 357 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: four hundred ninety eight, Number twelve, Washington, d C. One thousand, 358 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy two, Number thirteen, Chicago, Illinois, four 359 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety seven, Number fourteen, Las Vegas, Nevada, four 360 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: hundred eighty three, and number fifteen. Rounding out the top 361 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: fifteen Austin, Texas with one hundred and seventy one. And 362 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: so those are now what's striking. They're sending the vast 363 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: majority of the illegal immigrants in this program to Florida 364 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: and Texas. Florida is getting hammered. Just Miami and Fort 365 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: Lauderdale have over one hundred and fifty thousand that are 366 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: going there. And actually blue cities and blue states get 367 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: relatively few, so they're really hammering Florida and Texas. That's 368 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: one obvious conclusion of this. A second conclusion, Look, the 369 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: White House is trying to spend well, no, no, these 370 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: are not illegal immigrants because we're letting them in using 371 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: legal authorities. Well, I can tell you that that in litigation. 372 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: Here's what DHS wrote in response to a subpoena quote. 373 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: DHS said all individuals paroled into the United States are 374 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: by definition inadmissible, including those paroled under the CHNV processes, 375 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: which is what this program is. And to give you 376 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: a sense of the numbers on this program, CBP says 377 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: at least four hundred and four thousand illegal immigrants have 378 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: flown to the US using this program, and the breakdown 379 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: we know of one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians, 380 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: ninety five thousand Venezuelans, eighty four thousand Cubans, and sixty 381 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: nine thousand Nicaraguans. 382 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: This is again the reason why they were trying to 383 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: hide this. It's also the reason why they have not 384 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: been informing state we're talking about governors or local municipalities 385 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: of who they're bringing in, because they knew there would 386 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: probably be a lot of people that would say, no, 387 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to deal with this, No, please don't 388 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: drop them off here. 389 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and it's interesting also, So the number 390 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: three city was New York City, and then the number 391 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: again was fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven, so it 392 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: was a lot less than went to Miami or Fort Lauderdale. 393 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: What's interesting, though, is is we know that the mayor 394 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: of New York, a liberal Democrat who has declared at 395 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: a crisis, said it's an emergency, said illegal immigration is 396 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: destroying New York City. He has blamed what he called 397 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: that madman from Texas, and as we've talked about, I'm 398 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: actually disappointed that he's talking about Greg Abbott, not me. 399 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: I wonder what I have to do to qualify for 400 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: that insult from the mayor of New York City. But 401 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: Texas has sent to New York City roughly ten thousand 402 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. So if he's blaming that mad man, well, 403 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: Joe Biden has sent fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven 404 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: and that's just using this one program that doesn't measure 405 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: the other thousands that Biden has sent that crossed the 406 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: border illegally on the southern border, and that Biden put 407 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: on a bus or a plane. But yet the Democrat 408 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: mayor of New York can't actually blame the person responsible, 409 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: which is Biden and for that matter, Chuck Schumer and 410 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: every other Democrat in Congress. 411 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: Will this change that moved the needle at all? Do 412 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: you think? 413 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Because we know where may Adams has now been saying, 414 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: and we know about even in places like Colorado where 415 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: they're having to get rid of people in law enforcement 416 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: for goodness sakes, and letting people go in New York 417 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: to cover for the cost that it is to take 418 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: care of all of these illegal immigrants. At least seeing 419 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: the disclosures and the number of people involved, could this 420 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: move the needle a little bit? 421 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: Well, ask yourself this, how many of the home newspapers 422 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: where this data were reported actually covered it, How many 423 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: of them covered it on the front page, How many 424 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 2: of them had a headline. I feel confident that the 425 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: New York Times in New York City does not have 426 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: a headline Biden administration flew fourteen, eight hundred and twenty 427 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: seven illegal immigrants to New York City that I would 428 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: be surprised if you can read it anywhere in the 429 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: New York Times, and if you look at newspaper by newspaper. 430 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: I certainly haven't read it in the Chronicle and Houston, 431 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: Houston was number four. It may have been covered to 432 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: the Chronicle. I haven't searched it. But but you know, 433 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: the media doesn't want to cover these numbers. You know 434 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 2: that Democrats don't want to admit these numbers, and so 435 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: their plan is going to be the same as their 436 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: plan consistently has been, which is, ignore the crisis, pretend 437 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: it's not happened, count on the silence and complicity of 438 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: the media to cover this up. Because I got to say, 439 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: if you live in any of those fifteen cities, you 440 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: ought to be pissed off. And by the way, you know, 441 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: I gave the numbers of the biggest group that has 442 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: been flown in our Haitians, and it was at least 443 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians. We've talked about. 444 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: One of those Haitians was flown to Boston, Massachusetts, and 445 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: he was just recently arrested for raping a fifteen year 446 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: old girl who was severely mentally handicapped. And I got 447 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: to say, if you're the parents of that girl, and 448 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: the Biden administration literally flew the rapist from Haiti to 449 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: Boston and then released him where he attacked your daughter, 450 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: I can't imagine the frustration at the utter insanity of 451 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: that policy. 452 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I hit forty, and my, 453 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: oh my, is after forty different than before forty. 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So explain why 491 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: this legislation is something that parents really need to know about. 492 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: Well, this is legislation I introduced this week, and it's 493 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: bipartisan legislation. I teamed up with Brian Shotts, who's a 494 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: Democrat from Hawaii, and the bill is called the Kids 495 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: Off Social Media Act, and it does several things Number one, 496 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: it prohibits children under thirteen from accessing social media. So kids, 497 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: there's no reason for an eight or nine year old 498 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: to be on TikTok or to be on social media. 499 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of harmful things, I'll tell you. Listen, 500 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: you and I are both parents, and any parent who 501 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: is dealing with I'm dealing with teenagers. Your kids are 502 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: not teenagers yet, but but if you blink, they will be. 503 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Any parent dealing with teenagers or adolescents out to deal 504 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: with phones and social media is one of the greatest 505 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: challenges because phones are really a portal for kids to 506 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: access all sorts of harmful content. And so this bill 507 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: says if you're under thirteen, you can't be on social media. 508 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: And then it says for kids younger than seventeen, big 509 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: tech companies are prohibited from using algorithmic boosting to send 510 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: messages to them. So we know right now, there's been 511 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: a lot of testimony in the Senate that big tech 512 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: companies send messages to our kids, to our teenagers that 513 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: are really harmful. They send messages that undermine their body image, 514 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: they send messages that encourage self harm, they send messaging 515 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: that increases suicidal ideation, they send messaging that increases increases 516 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: their feelings of depression and anxiety. They send messages encouraging 517 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: dangerous behavior. They send messaging pushing radical beliefs, things like 518 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: Prohamas beliefs. And so this bill says as if you're 519 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: under seventeen, big tech cannot target using algorithm boosting to 520 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 2: send messages that are addicting and that are harmful. And 521 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: then the bill also includes a separate bill that I 522 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: had introduced previously, and I introduced it with John Fetterman. 523 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: It was also bipartisan, and my separate bill was called 524 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: the Eyes on the Board Bill, and the Eyes on 525 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: the Board Bill, which is now part of this bill, 526 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: says that any school that receives federal funds has to 527 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: block social media on campus. And the basic idea is, 528 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: while our kids are in school, they ought to be 529 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: listening to teacher, They ought to be doing school work. 530 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: They don't need to be posting on Instagram while they're 531 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: in school. For older kids, they can do that when 532 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: they get home, but at school they ought to be 533 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: focused on the school work. 534 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they should be. And this is legislation that you 535 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: mention is bipartisan. Here what does it look like the 536 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: chances of this moving forward since it is a bipartisan 537 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: piece of legislation. 538 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: So I'm actually quite optimistic. We are likely to have 539 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: a markup in the Senate Commerce Committee next week. I'm 540 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: the ranking member, the senior Republican on the Commerce Committee, 541 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: and I think it is very likely to pass the 542 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Commerce Committee with overwhelming bipartisan support. I think there's a 543 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: good chance it'll pass unanimously, and I think there is 544 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: a good prospect of this bill being passed into law. 545 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: There are two other bills called Coosa and Kappa, that 546 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: are both dealing with things like online predators targeting kids, 547 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: and I think there's a real possibility of all three 548 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: of these bills being put together and brought to the 549 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: Senate floor, and I'm hopeful we can pass all three 550 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: of them. 551 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated on it. 552 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: It's so important, especially preventing children under thirteen from having 553 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: access these social media sites and also, as you mentioned, 554 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: programming those algorithms for teens younger than seventeen. 555 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: This is really important. 556 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: Job well done, and we'll keep everybody updated on how 557 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: this looks moving forward. 558 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and you look, I'll say something also 559 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: as apparent. I mean, I mean, these are hard issues. 560 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: And one of the things I talk to a lot 561 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: of parents, I don't know a parent who disagrees on 562 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: this issue. And that's true, right or left, that's true 563 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: regardless of politics. We're all worried about our kids. I mean, 564 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: it's really it's hard to be a teenager right now. 565 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: The pressures on our kids. You and I didn't have 566 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: these kind of pressures when we were teenagers. It's really tough. 567 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: Is what is. 568 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: All of the influences that are pounding our kids. And 569 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: it's hard to be a parent right now. And one 570 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: of the challenges because some people say, well, parents ought 571 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: to just restrict this. Look, it is a hard dynamic 572 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: when your kid when every student in their class is 573 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: on the social media platform, when that's how the kids communicate, 574 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: when that's how they schedule playdates, when that's how they interact. 575 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: No parent wants to socially ostracize their kids. And so 576 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: a lot of parents will talk to each other and say, 577 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: I wish they were all off of it, but I'm 578 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: not willing to have my kid the only one that's 579 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: not able to interact with their peers and have a 580 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: social life, and that's one of the reasons why, you know, 581 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: it's interesting in the Senate the folks that are coming 582 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: together and supporting this bill. So myself and Brian Shots 583 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: and we've all also got Katie Britt. We're all about 584 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: the same age. We're all in our forties or fifties, 585 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: we all have kids the same age. I have to 586 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: say the senators that they're in their seventies or eighties, 587 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: they don't quite get this issue in the same way 588 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 2: that if you're a parent, you're dealing with it. 589 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: And so I'm. 590 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: Hopeful that that that we'll see some real bipartisan agreement 591 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: that we ought to enhance the tools parents have to 592 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: keep their kids safe. 593 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, great point. 594 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: We're going to keep you updated on this legislation as 595 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: it moves forward. 596 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: Don't forget. 597 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: We do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and a week 598 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: in review on Saturdays. 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