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Speaker 3: Good morning, Cowboys Nation. Welcome into Girls Talkboys Talk, presented

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Speaker 3: your host, Nicole had just sent alongside Brianna Aldridge and

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Speaker 3: Christy Scales Isisham Morrison is currently on the plane heading

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Speaker 3: back to Dallas. So safe travels to our girl, Aisha.

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Speaker 3: But the Rams Canada, Oxnard and the Cowboys finally got

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Speaker 3: that first test that they needed, you know, finally going

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Speaker 3: to go up again another team other than themselves. And

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Speaker 3: I just want to get y'all's overall thoughts before we

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Speaker 3: dive into the takeaways from practice. Christy, I'll go with you.

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Speaker 4: I'll say there's a lot of good coaching tape. Yes,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot to evaluate. We should say that we

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Speaker 4: had a little bit of a division of labor yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I concentrated more on the offense. You guys concentrated more

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Speaker 4: on defense. So we'll talk about that in different segments,

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Speaker 4: but the main thing was it was a chance for

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Speaker 4: the ones on both sides to get the work because

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Speaker 4: you know, the Dacks, the Pickens and the Tyler Smith's

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Speaker 4: and the CD Lambs, they're not going to be playing

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Speaker 4: in preseason games, so it's just so important to get

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Speaker 4: reps against another team because that's all they're going to

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Speaker 4: see against another team until they line up in the

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Speaker 4: Thursday night opener at Philadelphia. But some of the young

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Speaker 4: guys I think got a little bit of a baptism

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Speaker 4: and that's a good thing. And like coach Schottenheimer said,

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Speaker 4: well they all say, you know, some good things, some bad.

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Speaker 2: But he talked.

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Speaker 4: About errors and the run offense with the blocking Blitzer's

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Speaker 4: coming through. There were a lot of flags thrown yesterday,

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Speaker 4: but that's something that the coaches asked the officiating crews

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Speaker 4: to do. And the other thing was half of the

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Speaker 4: practice was scripted both sides McVeigh and Schottenheimer, and then

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Speaker 4: the last half was unscripted where they were just calling

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Speaker 4: what they wanted. So I think we got a nice

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Speaker 4: balance that way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I will say the good thing about joint practices,

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Speaker 5: there's no winner or losers. There's just a lot of

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Speaker 5: lessons basically what Chrissy just said, A lot to learn.

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Speaker 5: I know Brian Schoenheimer is probably going through the film

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Speaker 5: and scratching his head on a few things, but I

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Speaker 5: feel like this is what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: It's early.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, we got to see some players that

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Speaker 5: were not going to see these next three preseason games

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Speaker 5: going up. I think overall, my biggest takeaway was the physicality.

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Speaker 5: That's something that Shatnenheimer's been really adamant about, right. I

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Speaker 5: felt like the rams on both sides of the ball

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Speaker 5: and the trenches was brought the physicality. I feel like

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Speaker 5: that if anything, that was worrisome, if you will, because

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Speaker 5: that's been the theme of what you know, Oh this

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Speaker 5: is a physical team and what have you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see a lot of that, at least early on.

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Speaker 5: The biggest thing I did see, like positive wise, we've

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Speaker 5: been talking about Cavante Turpin being utilized. I saw a

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Speaker 5: lot of that yesterday. That was exciting. To see Hunter

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Speaker 5: Lipke we've been talking about. I saw him do some

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Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of tough decisions to be

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Speaker 5: the man on the roster. So, like you said, Christy,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of things to pull from from this one.

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Speaker 5: But my biggest thing was the physicality was just a

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Speaker 3: From Yeah, I mean and everything physical starts with the trenches,

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Speaker 3: I want to go more offensive line first because this

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Speaker 2: To you on that offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Well, the first thing I was like, Man, I wish

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Speaker 5: he was at. So obviously Nate Thomas was getting was

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Speaker 5: It was more of the schematically the timing, and that's

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Speaker 2: Right, timing is everything.

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Speaker 5: I Usha always talks about that, which she'd be she'd

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Speaker 2: The starting core would be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the front is different than what the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: And I talked to Tyler Booker, well, he spoke to

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Speaker 3: Was you know, when you're giving so many different looks

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Speaker 3: So he said that sometimes I'm out on an extra

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Speaker 3: So it is a little bit harder for those offensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's something that'll obviously come with time,

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Speaker 3: and hopefully it does. But moving on to the running backs,

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Speaker 3: this is an identity that you know, Shaddy wants to establish.

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Speaker 2: The run game. Did anything stand out to you.

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Speaker 2: That was Javonte Williams for me.

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Speaker 5: I know the unofficial depth chart doesn't really mean anything

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Speaker 5: not totally fair cause Miles Sanders, of course, is you know,

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Speaker 4: It was just kind of disappointed. You mentioned Miles Sanders

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Speaker 4: really did. In terms of the running backs just happened.

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Speaker 4: Two of them not available.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Phil Maffa, I mean, I think there were

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Speaker 2: He kind of couldn't see the whole quite well.

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Speaker 2: First team reps.

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Speaker 3: But the receivers, that's kind We're just going to go

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Speaker 2: But other receivers.

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Speaker 2: And I would not want that job.

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Speaker 5: But I was like, I was like, Nicole, let me

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he's all out there for a few series yesterday and.

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Speaker 4: There's no practice today, so that's even more time for you.

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Speaker 3: before we talk defense, real fast Galante Turpin earning some

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Speaker 3: more opportunities. Why do you feel like that is so

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Speaker 3: obviously a speed But why do you feel like that

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Speaker 3: is so? Is it is confidence and maybe his route

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Speaker 3: running ability?

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Speaker 2: What have y'all seen, ladies that has kind of struck you? Guys?

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Speaker 4: Well, why is it important? Is that it's one more

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Speaker 4: headache for the defensive coordinators and time that they have

478
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Speaker 4: to spend planning and on the practice field, So you

479
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Speaker 4: don't have to play that card a lot. But the

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Speaker 4: fact that you have the card means that the opponent

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Speaker 4: has to be ready for it. So there's value just

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Speaker 4: in the threat of what he can do.

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Speaker 2: But I think that.

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Speaker 4: One of the reasons why camp has been so much

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Speaker 4: more fun to watch this year is we're getting to

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Speaker 4: see more of it now. I'm not saying you're going

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Speaker 4: to see any of that in preseason. Why would you

488
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Speaker 4: risk him and why would you show anything cool? But

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Speaker 4: just take our word for it that you know, if

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Speaker 4: you don't get to see training camp in person and

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Speaker 4: you only watch the preseason games, you know it be like, huh,

492
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Speaker 4: don't see a lot different. Well, there's a lot different

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Speaker 4: going on on the practice field, but you're never going

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Speaker 4: to show it in a preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he says it's gonna be pretty vanilla, so oh absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And guys like Terp, I mean, you know exactly what

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Speaker 4: they can do, so why would you why would you

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Speaker 4: even play them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I think last year proved he proved that

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Speaker 5: he could be a threat, that speed is something that

501
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Speaker 5: is God given talent. You can't you can't teach that,

502
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Speaker 5: and he did some amazing stuff. I think there was

503
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Speaker 5: frustration even from the fan base, like you know, this

504
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Speaker 5: offense is struggling. Why why are they not using Comante

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Speaker 5: Turpin more? And they're doing it now and they're doing

506
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Speaker 5: it a lot. Like I was looking at some rankings

507
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Speaker 5: that some of the writers had did well on what

508
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Speaker 5: receivers had won, and some of them had Kvanti Turpin

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Speaker 5: at the top of the list.

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Speaker 2: That's how many reps he was getting.

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Speaker 5: Like I was kind of in and out doing some

512
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Speaker 5: stuff for a different show, and every time I looked up,

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Speaker 5: it was Turping, you know, getting the reps.

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Speaker 2: Just in the play action.

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Speaker 5: He was getting some handoffs, open space and he was

516
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Speaker 5: now he.

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Speaker 2: Was getting taken some hits. I will say that as well.

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Speaker 5: But oh my goodness, prepared to see the Cavante Turpin show.

519
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Speaker 5: Like Chrisy said, when you have the CDs out there

520
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Speaker 5: able to read this defense throwing up the finger without

521
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Speaker 5: looking at Dak, you got the dak in Pickens chemistry

522
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Speaker 5: picking up and you just throw Turpin in there.

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Speaker 2: That's just it's a nightmare for the other side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't take our word for it. And I

525
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Speaker 4: have so many little stars in my notebook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: From Schottenheimer press conferences, Turpin on offense, the inside runs

528
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Speaker 4: are more like a punt return. And I know a

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Speaker 4: little guy like Turpin, we don't think of inside runs,

530
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Speaker 4: but he's getting those opportunities. And then another time, this

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Speaker 4: is back on the twenty third, so just the second

532
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Speaker 4: day of practice, Shaddy West asked about Turpin and The

533
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Speaker 4: first thing he said was no fear. Even though he's

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Speaker 4: the smallest guy on the field, he has absolutely no fear.

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Speaker 4: And with all that speed, he doesn't need a lot

536
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Speaker 4: of space. He's dynamic. We want to move him all

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Speaker 4: over the field.

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Speaker 5: I would even argue that Turpin is the number three

539
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Speaker 5: wide receiver on this team. Like nothing to take nothing

540
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Speaker 5: away from Tolbert, but that's the usage that I expect

541
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Speaker 5: and that I'm seeing that he's that's the role he's

542
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Speaker 5: basically going to look like when you.

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Speaker 3: Put him out there, he and run into Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think his disadvantage is just his size. But when you

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Speaker 3: have speed like that, I mean, it creates different mismatches.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully the size.

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Speaker 3: Kind of I won't to say doesn't matter, but it

548
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: But one last thing on Turpin. Just keep in mind

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Speaker 4: that one of the really big rules. We don't have

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Speaker 4: a lot of rule changes this year, but one of

552
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Speaker 4: them is on this dynamic kickoff return that got carried

553
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Speaker 4: over to this year. They did make a couple of

554
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Speaker 4: adjustments and the main one is if and if you

555
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Speaker 4: you know, don't kick it to the returner, then the

556
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Speaker 4: touchback is not going to be the thirty yard line.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be the thirty five yard line. That

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Speaker 4: is big, a big advantage. So that means that teams

559
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Speaker 4: are we're going to see a lot more returns this

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Speaker 4: year because you're not just going to touch send a

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Speaker 4: touch back if the other team's going to get the

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Speaker 4: ball with the thirty five yard line. So Turpin's going

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Speaker 4: to get even more opportunities as a as a kickoff

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Speaker 4: returner this year. So that rule change really benefits the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys more so than any other NFL team.

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Speaker 3: All right, ladies, we're gonna switch over to defensive side

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Speaker 3: of the ball. Christy biggest takeaways? Would you see what

568
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Speaker 3: stood out? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Lots of coaching tape. Well, here's the thing. Your Your

570
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Speaker 4: secondary was of course without Trayvon Diggs and Josh Butler,

571
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Speaker 4: Kaylen Carson, without Revel and without jan Ye Thomas. So

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Speaker 4: the first team cornerbacks were Abram Elim who still is

573
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Speaker 4: having a great camp, and Deron Bland. But Rams, just

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Speaker 4: like everybody else, there's so much time that you play

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Speaker 4: nickel that he when Bland moved inside to play nickel,

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Speaker 4: Andrew Booth was playing outside. So we got to see

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Speaker 4: a lot a lot of Andrew booth yesterday. That's one thing.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing when I say there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of good and a lot of bad, I'm gonna use

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Speaker 4: Troy Pride as a couple of examples here because we're

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Speaker 4: going to see a lot of Troy Pride, who's a

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Speaker 4: backup cornerback and number thirty two when he was with

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Speaker 4: the team. He got some playing time for the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: towards the end of last season, but there were a

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Speaker 4: couple of things where he had like a couple of

586
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Speaker 4: really really good plays, right Troy Pride, And then you

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Speaker 4: get into the last the final session of the joint

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Speaker 4: practice where he tackled DeVante Adams and there was a

589
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Speaker 4: hurry up and they throw a quick out to DeVante Adams.

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Speaker 4: He tackles him and bounds, meaning the clock is running,

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Speaker 4: and then gets a pass breakup on the very next play,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Whittington another one to the right side, but the

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Speaker 4: previous session had given up a big play. So it's

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Speaker 4: one of those mixed bags, but it's one where the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys coaches can build the confidence and say, hey, you

596
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: didn't do it here, but you did it here. And

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Speaker 4: there are about four or five players that I have

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Speaker 4: notes where it's basically the same thing. You missed a play,

599
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Speaker 4: but then you came back, so you know, coaching points,

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Speaker 4: but then able to point out positive things to build up.

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Speaker 4: But there were a couple of times Kyrone Williams, they're

602
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Speaker 4: really fine running back who signed a three year extension

603
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Speaker 4: for thirty three million dollars. So it was in a

604
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Speaker 4: very very good mood yesterday. There was there were some

605
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Speaker 4: times where like Jack Sanborn, DeMont Clark came down, there

606
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Speaker 4: were some good run fits, but there were other times

607
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Speaker 4: where Kyron was running past and pasted the second level.

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Speaker 4: So there was one where he got through on the

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Speaker 4: right side for a thirty five yard touchdown. And then

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Speaker 4: on the very next play, Sam Williams, stuff's in the

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Speaker 4: back backfield. So good and bad. But the red zone

612
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Speaker 4: defense I think left a lot to be desired. The

613
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Speaker 4: Rams were scoring a lot on that kind of some

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Speaker 4: miscommunication kind of things, letting some guys get free. How

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Speaker 4: do you let Puka nikoua free? And they well, well

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Speaker 4: they managed to do that yesterday. But and then Perry

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Speaker 4: On Winfrey had a couple of good good plays there.

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Speaker 4: He's a UFL guy Birmingham Stallions, so It's interesting because

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Speaker 4: some of the guys who've been very under the radar

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Speaker 4: stepped up and made a big play and that was

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Speaker 4: in the run game, and so we'll see if they

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Speaker 4: can carry that into the preseason action.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to ask about the defensive line, specifically

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Speaker 3: the edge rushers, because this is a group that has

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Speaker 3: stood out through camp so far, with guys like Donovan Azaraku,

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Speaker 3: Dante Fowler, Sam Williams himself. Just talk about those guys

627
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Speaker 3: and were they able to kind of create any havoc

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Speaker 3: at all, any problems.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one Donovan in particular there where he came

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Speaker 4: around the edge and of course, even though it's a

631
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Speaker 4: joint practice, you're still not going to sack the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to touch him. And it was a

633
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Speaker 4: it was a long pass to DeVante Adams, but Donovan

634
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Speaker 4: pulled up. So would he have affected the quarterback if

635
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Speaker 4: he were if it were real game actions. So kind

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Speaker 4: of hard to tell on that, but I thought as

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Speaker 4: Roku looked pretty good. Mozzie actually did some snaps yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He had been pulled out of the previous walked off

639
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Speaker 4: the field with the trainers uh the previous practice. So

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Speaker 4: it was good to see.

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Speaker 2: Him out there.

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Speaker 4: But Sam Williams was very active and so, but it's

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Speaker 4: just kind of hard to tell with the pass rush

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Speaker 4: because they just can't follow through.

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Speaker 2: They have to pull up.

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Speaker 4: And we didn't see as we've seen in previous joint practices,

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Speaker 4: not just with the Rams, but with other teams where

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Speaker 4: they have specific pass rush drills where the offensive and

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Speaker 4: defensive lines are separately. You know, it's going against each

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Speaker 4: other in specific pass restrats. We didn't have that.

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Speaker 2: Hanging out. I was enjoying the show, but I know

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Speaker 2: I need to be on the defensive side.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like there's a lot of moving pieces happening

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Speaker 5: on over there.

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Speaker 4: Hooker continued to show up. Yeah, he's had he's had

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Speaker 4: a really good camp, and I'm going through my notes

657
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Speaker 4: and just looking at some of the some of the things.

658
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Speaker 4: But yeah, just some miscommunications after you know, ships and

659
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Speaker 4: stacks in the end zone and things like that. That

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Speaker 4: and it's against second and thirteen guys. So but again,

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Speaker 4: the main thing is it's the coaching points that the

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Speaker 4: staff can told off.

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Speaker 3: Of this cornerback room. Still a lot of concerns there,

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Speaker 3: just you don't have digs.

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Speaker 2: The one Rebel Josh Butler and.

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Speaker 3: Kayln Kayln Carson just talk about where do you guys

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Speaker 3: feel this cornerback room is. Guys like Troy Pride has

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Speaker 3: stood out, Andrew Booth had a couple of good days

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Speaker 3: in camp a couple of not so good days in Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Where do you guys feel like it stands right now?

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Speaker 4: I think it's huge these three preseason games for Keemon

672
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Speaker 4: Hall guys like that, and it's so huge because you

673
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Speaker 4: got to remember it's not just Pride versus Booth or

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Speaker 4: it's the thirty one other teams that have four or

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Speaker 4: five cornerbacks who are on the roster bubble. I'm not

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Speaker 4: convinced that you know, our third, fourth, fifth cornerbacks are here.

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Speaker 4: They may be on other teams and being brought in,

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Speaker 4: you know, once roster cuts are being made. So that's

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Speaker 4: you can imagine the immense pressure on these guys who've

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Speaker 4: been in the league for a couple of years and

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Speaker 4: know the drill that just because you beat out the

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Speaker 4: guy who may be in front of you on the

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Speaker 4: depth chart on your own team, you're not safe because

684
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Speaker 4: the scouts are watching all these preseason games and you

685
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Speaker 4: know there'll be a board up there of players. There's

686
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Speaker 4: professional scouting as well as college scouting, and right now

687
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Speaker 4: the professional scouts this is this is a very tough

688
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Speaker 4: time for these roaster bubble guys because you got to

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Speaker 4: beat guys on thirty one other teams as well as

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Speaker 4: your own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the secondary, the cornerback room.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've been talking about that all off season,

693
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Speaker 5: and I was surprised that there wasn't the urgency.

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Speaker 2: I love saying urgency on just because, but the.

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Speaker 5: Urgency to add some depth there, especially with all the injuries,

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Speaker 5: with the unknown time table when Trayvon Diggs the number

697
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Speaker 5: one is coming back, right, Kyrie Elam has been having

698
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Speaker 5: a great camp, But I just didn't think that was enough.

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Speaker 2: And then was it Christian Matthews. I believe that they did,

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Speaker 2: and you.

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Speaker 5: Know, there's yea, It's just it just felt like more injuries,

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Speaker 5: inviting more injuries to the team with more unproven talent,

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Speaker 5: if you will, in that area. If we if we're

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Speaker 5: noticing it in joint practices, what's going to happen when

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Speaker 5: we get to the regular season in and you have

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Speaker 5: teams that's that's that's gonna be the liability of this

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Speaker 5: of this team.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit scary.

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Speaker 5: I think Jerry was asked about it yesterday after practice,

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Speaker 5: you know, like, hey, your secondary was clearly struggling.

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Speaker 2: Is that something of an issue? Are you looking to

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Speaker 2: add there? And he's nope.

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Speaker 5: You know so, I mean, obviously it's not gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 5: we're freaking out, but just the fact that they're not,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't seem like there's interests and there's faith in

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Speaker 5: that group right now. I know Andrew Booth, like you said,

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Speaker 5: was having a lot of reps. That's someone who struggled

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Speaker 5: a lot.

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Speaker 4: But that's because of the injuries in front of him exactly. Rochelle,

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Speaker 4: who they brought in, was working third team on the

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Speaker 4: right side outside cornerback. And then should note that Israel Mukuamu,

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Speaker 4: who's shown position flex throughout his career, not just safety

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Speaker 4: but corner. He got a little bit of work both

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Speaker 3: I think it's also important for them to figure out

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Speaker 3: to do with him, because they'd be working him at

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Speaker 3: nickel and also boundary corner, and that'll kind of trickle

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Speaker 3: down to the rest of those that the tone will say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's around like a Michael Parson situation.

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Speaker 2: In that room.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we're gonna take our second break though and

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into Girls Talk, Boys Talk persenter in biz

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Speaker 3: line here live from Oxnard, California. Before we wrap up, though, ladies,

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Speaker 3: is there anything.

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Speaker 2: And you could say nothing, I'm just asking the questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is there anything that you feel most confident confident in?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me? Heading into the first preseason game.

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Speaker 5: I am most confident that Dak Prescott is going to

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Speaker 5: have less pressure, meaning that his wide receivers it felt like,

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Speaker 5: and Christy, you could attest to this if you feel

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Speaker 5: the same, But I feel like CD's growth this year

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Speaker 5: is just doing this and I don't mean skill level,

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Speaker 5: I just mean uppear mentally and being able to read.

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Speaker 5: And I just don't feel like they were getting that

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Speaker 5: last year. I don't know if it's the coaching. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if it's just maturity. I don't know what

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Speaker 5: it is, but it just feels different. And I think

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Speaker 5: that is huge because, like you mentioned, now we just

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Speaker 5: added another piece with George Pickens. Now we got a

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Speaker 5: Cavante Turpin in there, We're utilizing Lippy a bunch more.

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Speaker 5: Somebody else might pop off that, you know, as a surprise.

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Speaker 5: But I just think that is going to be a

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Speaker 5: relief because I feel like Dak had to think too

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Speaker 5: much before it.

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Speaker 2: Was all on his shoulders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this time last year he didn't have CD

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Speaker 4: because CD wasn't participating in training camp. But yeah, it

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Speaker 4: has been surprising how quickly George Pickens is just fit

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Speaker 4: right in with this. And the other thing is once

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Speaker 4: you get to the regular season another thing. Yeah, you've

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Speaker 4: got all those weapons, and if Jake Ferguson didn't have

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Speaker 4: the banged up need like he did last year, now

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Speaker 4: he's got the fat contract. I mean there are so

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Speaker 4: many weapons with this, but specifically for the preseason game

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Speaker 4: coming up, and I know that Friday we'll talk more

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Speaker 4: about some of the players that we want to see.

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Speaker 4: I think it's clear that with our injury situation, we

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Speaker 4: had a lot of backup guys or young guys going

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Speaker 4: against the Rams ones. Yep, Nate Thomas versus Jared Verse.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 4: He's a fine player for the Rams. He's their starter,

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Speaker 4: and it was rough early in practice yesterday for Nate.

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Speaker 4: Who's going to be starting at left tackle, especially if

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Speaker 4: Guidon's not one hundred percent to play him, Well, Nate'll

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Speaker 4: be going against versus isn't going to play in preseason,

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Speaker 4: just like the Cowboys don't play their first team guys.

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Speaker 4: So let's let's see Nate going against that and build

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Speaker 4: up that contients through these preseason games. And I think

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Speaker 4: it's going to look different. I hope it looks very different,

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Speaker 4: especially with the run game than what we saw in

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Speaker 4: the joint practice.

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Speaker 2: What about defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm just curious as to who's going to

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Speaker 4: be out there. I think that that it'll be better

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Speaker 4: for the secondary in the preseason games, just for what

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Speaker 4: I mentioned before like Ezraku and these guys who are

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Speaker 4: getting a good pass rush, but you can't go through

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Speaker 4: with it, and the quarterbacks know that, so they're you know,

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Speaker 4: stay on their spot and delivering the ball because they

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Speaker 4: know they're not going to get hit by the pass

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Speaker 4: rush when they're being moved off the spot. The other

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Speaker 4: thing is Jimmy Garoppolo, because Matt Stafford has the sore back.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo and then Stetson Bennett are the quarter where

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks working against this Cowboys defense yesterday. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if Garoppolo is going to play the preseason games,

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Speaker 4: but didn't Stetson Bennett throw what four or five interceptions

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Speaker 4: last year against the Cowboys. So again, we'll preview more

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Speaker 4: the preseason opener. But that's what I kept telling myself

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Speaker 4: yesterday was Okay, some of these guys they're going to

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a little more equal when it

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Speaker 4: comes to the preseason competition Saturday, as opposed to sometimes

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Speaker 4: you have your third and fourteen guys going against the

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Speaker 4: ones I know.

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Speaker 2: We talked about.

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Speaker 3: I think goes Monday. There's guys whose stock has kind

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Speaker 3: of risen over the course of camp. I want to

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Speaker 3: ask the opposite question. Whose stock was risen through the

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Speaker 3: past two weeks of camp and now it's kind of like, hmm, okay,

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Speaker 3: you kind of like took a little backstep a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Who is that for you guys?

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Speaker 3: If anyone after joining now, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If anyone's doing anything to the point where I think,

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Speaker 5: like the competition the decisions are actually going to be

864
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Speaker 5: hard across the board for some of those key positions.

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Speaker 5: I will say, not that it's not having a strong camp,

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Speaker 5: but I just see someone that just seems that's kind

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Speaker 5: of plateau and not making the jump. Would be the

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Speaker 5: Mazzie Smith situation. I just you know, at this point

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Speaker 5: in his career, I feel like the expectations have because

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Speaker 5: of being a first round, former first round draft pick,

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Speaker 5: continuously behind. But I think if if there's anything you know, worrisome.

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Speaker 2: If you will, it's, Oklay, what is he?

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard of him making any type of big

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Speaker 5: jump right now, and I think that's you know, a

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Speaker 5: little bit concerning in that aspect. But I don't I

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Speaker 5: don't know if anyone has like that major drop off

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Speaker 5: just from from here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have a guy like awesome Richards getting

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Speaker 4: leap frauged for at left tackle by Nate Right. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know that that means that there's like a

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Speaker 4: loss of faith in him. You know, Richards was still

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Speaker 4: out their first team when they were doing jumbo and

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Speaker 4: he has a position flex to do guard. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's like hmmm, yeah. The first thought was when Tyler

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Speaker 4: Guidon leaves practice, it's like, oh, well, certainly it'll be

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Speaker 4: awesome Richards, and it's no, it's Thomas. So yeah, that

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Speaker 4: could be that they need to see Thomas Moore and

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Speaker 4: he had been you know, he'd missed last year due

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Speaker 4: to a knee injury, and so now he now they

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Speaker 4: get a chance to see him, so they want to

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Speaker 4: give a shot and know what they have, and they

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Speaker 4: know a little bit more about awesome.

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Speaker 5: That's what I felt like it was because it happened

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Speaker 5: so quick to the point it was like, well, what

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Speaker 5: could Austin Richards could have done in that you know,

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Speaker 5: one day span. So I feel like more on the

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Speaker 5: hint of okay, let's see what this young guy can do.

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Speaker 5: Maybe his body type is more built for what they're

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Speaker 5: looking for in that position.

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Speaker 2: Because it just happened so fast.

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Speaker 5: I didn't really hear like, oh, he was just you know,

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Speaker 5: getting rent or anything like that. And he's made it

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Speaker 5: known that he's more comfortable on the other side as well,

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Speaker 5: so that is something to keep an eye on, though

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent.

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