WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, June 18 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.640 Huts pretty accurate. Had one last night back Welcome in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.400 Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick from the home studio. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:16.080 Today is June, and this is our final show before 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:21.200 a three week hiatus. The dead zone is here, so 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.319 we will go away for a while while we can, 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.160 because once we pick back up and mid July, it 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:33.360 is going to be NonStop, hopefully until training camp and 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.080 preseason games and the regular season go off without a hitch. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.479 But over the news the last couple of days, that's 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.840 certainly up in the air now as well. But we'll 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.000 get you through this last program today. Here's what's coming 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.640 up on the show. Analyst Jeff Lockman will join us. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.160 We'll talk a little ball and see what the Jags 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.880 are up to this week. Few guys have been out 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.960 practicing on their own, it looked like on social media. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.760 NFL Network reporter Steve White discusses the social justice initiatives 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.280 from the Jaguars that have happened over the last two 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.240 or three weeks and the league as a whole. He's 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.800 been very active on social media and in his reporting 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.959 on NFL Network about what the league has done the 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.480 reaction to it, and he was the one actually that 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.959 broke the Colin Kaepernick story of why his kneeling began 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.160 back in the first place, back in Goshen. So we'll 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.679 get his perspective on that reaction then as opposed to now. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.959 Senior writer John Ozier joins us. Also, we'll break down 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.000 his podcast earlier in the week. He spoke with Terry Robiski, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.040 the running backs coach, and Marcus Pollard, director of player 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.760 development for the Jackson We'll get his thoughts on that 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.720 and four three verses three four that was the talk 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.480 late last week from defensive coordinator Todd Wash will break 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.800 that down again. We'll go around the National Football League 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.040 as well. So quite a show today, our last one 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.240 for a while. This is we are nearing the three 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.920 month mark. In fact, tomorrow would be the three month 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.880 anniversary of our last show in the building at t 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.480 I A. A. Bank Field, that was on March nineteen. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.080 Imagine that, Jeff Loghman on the phone with us now 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.560 Jaguars analysts logs. That's a crazy three month period about that. 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.239 Ah yeah, I mean it, It certainly is crazy. And 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.400 uh you would think in three months you might have 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.720 a little bit more answers, But I think you still 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.359 have a lot more questions, maybe than even than you 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.560 had three months ago. Uh. I think it puts a 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.359 lot of things up in here. But before we get 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.720 to that, was I the only one that was listening 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.359 at the beginning, going, where do you get a hand 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:48.240 rolled cuban sandwich? Sandwich? You were thinking, Okay, yeah, I'm 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.600 kind of hungry. And if we said cuban, I said, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.799 oh man, I'd love to have me a cuban right now. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.160 And I started thinking, I said, wait a minute, I 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.560 think he meant a cigar. That's exactly that's true, that 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.760 maybe a st You like them both, don't I will 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:09.000 turn in either one of them down most days. But 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.360 to get to get back to the conversation about ball 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.639 or you know, the questions of what's happened in the 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.400 last three months, I mean, do you do you see 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.799 in your mind this NFL happening normally when we get 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:28.120 around to training camp July August, September. But normally I'm 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.280 sure you mean, you know, rookies show up a week early, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.400 then the quarterbacks are in, and then the rest of 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.680 the team, the veterans show up at a certain date 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:41.560 and they do two weeks. I mean anything anything being normal. Yeah, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.360 I think the definition of normal has changed, and we 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.200 don't know what that is yet. Yeah. I think we're 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.160 we're going to see a lot of different things. And 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.120 here's the here's the thing. What happens if you're in 0:03:54.240 --> 0:04:01.520 season and then on Saturday or Sunday morning for that matter, 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.280 you wake up and you're starting quarterbacks not feeling good? 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.520 Okay and uh and and he just spent all week 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.600 in the same room with the backup quarterbacks and with 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:19.440 the quarterback coach, and you you test him. He's positive, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.760 whether it be Saturday or Sunday. Um, what are you? 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.080 What are you doing? I mean, do you do you have? 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.359 Can you? Can you just go ahead and expect to 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.440 play your backups who've been in the same room, have 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.400 been around. You're starting quarterback who tested positive. I mean, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.800 I mean, how do you handle that challenge? Man? It's 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.960 it's so it's not even that's not even the right 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.960 word for what this is. Yeah, because even they are 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.599 I mean, what happens, you know, to the game if 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:52.120 one team does not have quarterbacks available in that scenario? 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.000 Position groups? I mean we're talking, I mean, we're we're 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.120 seeing where it's you know, you guys, are I know 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.440 that what six players or whatever? That the University of Houston, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.440 I think it was Texas Today. Texas today had a few, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.800 and then the Houston Texans in the Dallas Cowboys had 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.440 some recently as well. All right, but I think there 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.159 was another university in Texas that had an issue while ago. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.840 But I mean, I'm you're sit there and you think 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.160 about that. Okay, Well, what if you get a defensive 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:23.040 lineman who's positive and he's asymptomatic, and he spends all 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.480 week with his guys. You know, he's doing one on 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.799 one drills. And look, when you do one on one drills, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.120 I mean you're making contact with people. You know, you're 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:36.520 you're breathing on people. Uh, you're shedding things. I mean 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.640 that's what the definition what they're talking about how the 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.360 virus passes is through shedding. So what do you do. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.400 I mean, if if one guy tests positive, he's been asymptomatic, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.440 he's been in the same room as everybody else, and 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.440 and you could have an entire room that's out, well, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.119 that entire room also has been around the other entire 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.440 rooms in the huddles and on the field and in 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.200 the locker room. I mean, how how do you handle this? 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.880 You know? I mean, it's so many questions, so many 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.560 And today, I believe, or yesterday, I think it was today. 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.760 Dr Fauci, the infectious disease expert that is in the 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.039 White House and does all that stuff, said that football 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.039 probably won't be able to be played unless it's a 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.480 bubble situation like the NBA is talking about and Major 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.400 League Baseball, where basically you quarantine the entire team at 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.279 a place for the season. Well, that's not realistic. You 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.200 can't do that with you know, fifty three active guys, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.839 ten practice squad guys, coaching staff, everybody. What are you 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.960 gonna do? Quarantine there, quarantine them and a bubble away 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.920 from their family, and then their family is going to 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.799 be quarantine and a bubble away from anybody else. Right. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.480 That's tough, I mean, because you can't you can't expect 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.240 a player to be away from his family. But but 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.600 I mean, that's that's the thing, is that even though 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.840 we were all hopeful that, you know, once we get 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:00.440 the summer, that the frequency of transmission would down, and 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.200 obviously we're seeing some high set and some of the 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.320 testing procedures that related to an increase in positive tests 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.400 and and the virus spreading or is that related to 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.320 just the simple fact that there's a lot more testing 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.320 going on right now too. You don't know the answer 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.800 to that. And politics seems to get involved in everything, 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.040 and so sometimes it's hard to decipher what the truth 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.680 is going to be. But the boy, it's it's just 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.480 it's just hard sometimes to envisions. We head to this 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.160 little bit of a break in the dead zone, you know, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.760 when we come back, are we going to be out 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.920 of the dead zone or are we going to be 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.240 continuing to exist in the dead zone with a lot 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.240 of uncertainty? You know? So, uh, I don't have the 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.120 answer to that. And I'm sure that there's a lot 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.760 of a lot of possibilities that are being discussed at 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.760 the league level, at team levels, and and I have 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.520 a feeling that there's a lot of I don't want 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.640 to say indecision, but there's a lot of decisions that 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.600 haven't been made because they just simply don't know the 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.080 answer right now. Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars analyst. And 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.280 even if we do get to let's say training camp, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.520 right and the players can practice and they figured it 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.920 out and they're gonna test and all that is fine, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:13.000 quote unquote, I don't think we'll be even close to 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.520 their lives to cover it. No, heck no, no, JP. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.320 We won't be anywhere. We won't be allowed anywhere near it. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.400 I'll be sitting in this chair right here, interviewing guys 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.000 over zoom or however they set it up. That's how 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.760 that's going. It'll be, you know, if you want to 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:32.080 watch maybe on some kind of film, thinking that you're 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.439 not going down there to to be on the field 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.120 and be around players and and for them to be 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:42.200 at risk of being around you. I mean, that's uh, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.960 the the way that the game is covered from a 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:49.920 media standpoint. Media is going to have extremely limited access. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.800 Everything will be done via zoom or team whatever you 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.920 want to call, uh there or whatever avenue is most 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:01.840 available or readily available to to the masses. And uh yeah, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.240 I mean you're gonna restrict everything. I mean, when when 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.120 I mentioned just before, you know, when you talk about 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:13.040 having your team traveling, I mean, who's essential you're talking 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.360 about essential personnelity be able to have a football game. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.319 But I mean here's the here's the thing. I mean, 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.920 that's assuming you could even have it right, I mean, 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.040 that's and and that right now, that seems to be 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.880 you know, a pretty big assumption, you know, I mean 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.079 being said, I mean, what other what other pro sports 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.160 league is is playing right now? Well, you got soccer. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.760 So the Premier League in England started yesterday, I believe 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.800 actual games, Bundesliga and Germany has been playing for a 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:43.800 little bit. Um Nascar, but that's not a contact sport 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.440 at least personal Nascar is about as good as social 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.840 distancing as you can do. Man could have got a car, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.080 you know, let him, let him umping grind, but bumping 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.000 grind is six ft or more at least. Yeah, that's right. Uh, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.679 you're swapping paint, you're not swapping spit. So yeah, so 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.240 that's about it. Bugs. And then once NBA gets going, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.160 that's the bubble thing. If there's been a little bit 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.520 of pushback from the players on that as of late, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.160 to be in a bubble, JP, I mean, and you know, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.360 I mean because I will beyond you that now to me, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.040 you're asking me sure if that means getting a paycheck, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.040 I'll say, in the bubble, to get the paycheck and 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.640 then move totally understand that I don't have a family. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.079 I don't have kids. I don't have any of that stuff. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.880 So and that's that's where the question gets bigger and 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:34.080 the answer gets more difficult. And and with football you're 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.640 dealing with man much many, many, many more numbers than 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.160 you're talking about with basketball. And I think that's why 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.920 the league right now, as you know, I don't want 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.160 to say they've been quiet. I mean they've been certainly 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.120 responsive to some extent, but I think that they want 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.040 to see how it goes with other leagues that have 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.600 started or that are going to start, to see how 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.800 they can proceed and what might work and what might 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.400 not work. Right, but that's probably the last thing to 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:08.160 do in the Jaguars umbrella under the ownership group of 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.440 the cons Fulham Football Club and the Championship that the 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.560 second league in England. They start on Saturday, so they've 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.720 had some warm ups to get ready, so that'll be 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.119 really a first hand look with some of the Jaguars 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.760 folks involved in Fulham business as well over in London, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.000 so we'll get a little better look there as well. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.280 Jeff Logan, with US Jaguars analyst, joining us here on 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:37.319 Jaguars Happy Hour. Well, the real virtual offseason program is over, 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.760 but on social media this week we saw a glimpse 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.880 into some Jaguars getting out on a local high school 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:48.240 field here and starting to work a little bit together. Um, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.840 I believe Gardner Minshew was involved, d J. Chark, handful 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.320 of receivers, that kind of thing. You know, it's the 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.600 first time I think probably they've been able to get 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.199 together on their own. That's a good thing. I don't know, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.160 if you're gonna get a lot of answers is better 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.480 than not doing it, I guess. Yeah. I mean it's something. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.720 And do we know that that's the first time they've 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.920 gotten together. No, I mean if yeah, I mean that's 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.160 And here's the thing. If you have gotten together previously 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.560 with a bunch of guys with with having seen some 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.280 of the criticism that other players have gotten for gathering 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.920 with teammates to play catch or throw the football together, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.400 you know, some guys might have have done it a 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.600 little bit under the shroud of secrecy, you know, just 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:40.760 to not expose themselves to criticism for not practicing quote 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.240 unquote social distance team. So but I mean it's good. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.719 I mean as much as you can try to get 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.199 together and throw I mean, look, Gardner Minshew, even though 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.240 Uncle Rico did it, you know, he can't sit out 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.520 in park a van out in the middle of the 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.680 valley and to start throwing the football over the mountain 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.400 and get loose and feel like he's gotten a lot 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.400 of big workout. You know, you got to throw the people. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.120 You gotta have speed, you got to have you know, 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.800 your guys and time me and so I mean, it's 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.480 good that they're doing that, and well, you hope that 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.400 they can do as much of that as possible between 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.440 now and the startup camp, just to kind of keep 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.080 things rolling along so that when you do get the camp, 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.000 or if there is a camp, and if there everything 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.120 is going smoothly that I don't want to say you 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.160 can hit the ground running, because I think that's a 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.640 far cry from doing what you need to do to 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.760 hit the ground running. But at least you've had something 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.679 that has has kind of kept you loose and coming 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.720 in feeling like, Okay, I'm not just coming in cold. 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.640 Jeff Lockman with US Jack Warres analysts the we've got 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:46.040 the next three shows off, so we're back July. I 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.080 believe is that Thursday will have this show return and 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.559 hopefully we'll be about a week or so out from 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.600 training camp. What's up in the month ahead for you, locks, Uh, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.720 just just like what's been up for the last couple 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.680 of months, the ap Lots of family, family time and 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.800 uh and you know, and and a little bit of 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.160 work and other aspects of my life. So it's all good, man. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:11.720 Family is good. Life's good. Life's good and uh, you know, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.160 as as as it can be with a worldwide pandemic. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.600 And uh, hey, man, ribs are smoking on the girl 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.280 right now, so's it's not bad. Oh. I can stand 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.600 six ft away from you if you want me to 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:28.560 taste test those a little uh. Lots good stuff. Man, 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.600 Thanks for your time throughout this pandemic, and we'll talk 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.520 to you in a few weeks. Man, J C. C. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.800 Buddy Jeff lockhaman smoking ribs. It's a pretty darn good 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.200 Thursday afternoon, and it's gonna be a better evening. It 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.000 sounds like at the Logiman household coming up time now 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.960 for the community. 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One day away from the 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.119 three month anniversary of our last show at t I 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.920 A A bank Fields. We've been doing this show and 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:32.840 other programming obviously, video interviews and the NFL Draft and 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.160 everything that's come up between now and then from our 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.840 individual homes. So thank you for sticking with us throughout 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.720 the pandemic here and we're gonna take the next three 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:49.120 Thursdays away and be back with you in mid July. Time. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:52.639 Now to hear from Steve White, NFL Network reporter, analyst 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.200 and host. Longtime reporter in the National Football League for 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.600 a number of different publications in Miami. Harold he was 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.720 an nb A writer for the Washington Post covering the 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.080 Wizards and the league there for a little while in 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.520 Atlanta with the Journal Constitution, and he's been with the 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.240 NFL Network for a number of years now. Social justice 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.280 causes for the Jaguars, they were really the first team 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.960 to to take a team approach. They were the first 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.280 team to to march. We'll start there and Jack's owner 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.400 Shot con I wrote the op ed piece that really 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.560 set the tone for the organization and a lot of 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.800 in a lot of ways the National Football League. You'll 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.600 see the full video coming up early next week with Steve, 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.760 but a little piece of the conversation coming up here. 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:42.720 Steve Whitch of NFL Network starting with Jaguars owner Shot 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.560 Khan and his op ed piece back on June three. 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.320 What was your reaction to that piece when you first 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.520 read him. Yeah, Look, I think it was important because 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.640 as we know, Shan Khan is the only minority uh 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.600 Prince blowner in the NFL, and so for him to 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.639 come on writing op ed talking about some of the 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.360 race is him that he's faced and of course he's 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.200 he's overcome a lot of things financially in business wise, 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.600 but he still deals with it. Um was fantastic, you know, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.399 and I really thought it was very important for him 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.800 to say he was going to listen to his players, 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.160 because that's something that owners have not necessarily done somehow, 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.440 but others have been more dictatorial and so you're gonna 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.399 do it this way or it's the highway. So the 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.000 fact that that's the tenor he set for the organization, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:33.000 I think it's very important because it lets coaches know, okay, good, 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.080 I can give my players maybe some opportunities or freedoms, 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.119 and let's players know that they can seize control of 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.320 the narrative or what is going to happen with the 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.320 players without any type of obstruction. Steeve, do you think 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.320 that will be something that Mr Cohn starts that other 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.360 owners maybe taken and use on their own as well. 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.879 Is that something like you said in the past, some 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.320 are dictatorial, It doesn't really work like that a lot 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:04.480 of places. Can this be a league wide phenomena. We'll see. Um. 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:06.680 You know, look, some owners are stepped out and they've 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.760 made statements, but you know, are they gonna put actions 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.960 behind their words? And some owners have been very active. 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.199 David Tepper with the Carolina Panthers sever ties with their 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:18.360 big security agency because they're their CEO of their head 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.720 was very dismissive of some of the things publicly about 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:25.240 what people are protesting against. So you know that this 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.040 is a wait and see. But I do think Shan 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.280 Khan and taking the steps that he's taken, has shown 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.399 significant leadership, maybe to the rest of the owners, but 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.920 I think absolutely to his players and people in the 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.000