1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Huts pretty accurate. Had one last night back Welcome in 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick from the home studio. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Today is June, and this is our final show before 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: a three week hiatus. The dead zone is here, so 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: we will go away for a while while we can, 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: because once we pick back up and mid July, it 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: is going to be NonStop, hopefully until training camp and 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: preseason games and the regular season go off without a hitch. 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: But over the news the last couple of days, that's 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: certainly up in the air now as well. But we'll 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: get you through this last program today. Here's what's coming 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: up on the show. Analyst Jeff Lockman will join us. 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little ball and see what the Jags 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: are up to this week. Few guys have been out 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: practicing on their own, it looked like on social media. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: NFL Network reporter Steve White discusses the social justice initiatives 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: from the Jaguars that have happened over the last two 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: or three weeks and the league as a whole. He's 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: been very active on social media and in his reporting 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: on NFL Network about what the league has done the 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: reaction to it, and he was the one actually that 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: broke the Colin Kaepernick story of why his kneeling began 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: back in the first place, back in Goshen. So we'll 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: get his perspective on that reaction then as opposed to now. 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Ozier joins us. Also, we'll break down 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: his podcast earlier in the week. He spoke with Terry Robiski, 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: the running backs coach, and Marcus Pollard, director of player 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: development for the Jackson We'll get his thoughts on that 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and four three verses three four that was the talk 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: late last week from defensive coordinator Todd Wash will break 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: that down again. We'll go around the National Football League 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: as well. So quite a show today, our last one 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: for a while. This is we are nearing the three 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: month mark. In fact, tomorrow would be the three month 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: anniversary of our last show in the building at t 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I A. A. Bank Field, that was on March nineteen. 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: Imagine that, Jeff Loghman on the phone with us now 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars analysts logs. That's a crazy three month period about that. 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, I mean it, It certainly is crazy. And 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: uh you would think in three months you might have 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more answers, But I think you still 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: have a lot more questions, maybe than even than you 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: had three months ago. Uh. I think it puts a 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: lot of things up in here. But before we get 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: to that, was I the only one that was listening 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: at the beginning, going, where do you get a hand 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: rolled cuban sandwich? Sandwich? You were thinking, Okay, yeah, I'm 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: kind of hungry. And if we said cuban, I said, 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: oh man, I'd love to have me a cuban right now. 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: And I started thinking, I said, wait a minute, I 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: think he meant a cigar. That's exactly that's true, that 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: maybe a st You like them both, don't I will 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: turn in either one of them down most days. But 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: to get to get back to the conversation about ball 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: or you know, the questions of what's happened in the 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: last three months, I mean, do you do you see 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: in your mind this NFL happening normally when we get 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: around to training camp July August, September. But normally I'm 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: sure you mean, you know, rookies show up a week early, 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: then the quarterbacks are in, and then the rest of 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: the team, the veterans show up at a certain date 62 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and they do two weeks. I mean anything anything being normal. Yeah, 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: I think the definition of normal has changed, and we 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: don't know what that is yet. Yeah. I think we're 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of different things. And 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing. What happens if you're in 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: season and then on Saturday or Sunday morning for that matter, 68 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: you wake up and you're starting quarterbacks not feeling good? 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Okay and uh and and he just spent all week 70 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: in the same room with the backup quarterbacks and with 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback coach, and you you test him. He's positive, 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: whether it be Saturday or Sunday. Um, what are you? 73 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: What are you doing? I mean, do you do you have? 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: Can you? Can you just go ahead and expect to 75 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: play your backups who've been in the same room, have 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: been around. You're starting quarterback who tested positive. I mean, 77 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you handle that challenge? Man? It's 78 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: it's so it's not even that's not even the right 79 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: word for what this is. Yeah, because even they are 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: I mean, what happens, you know, to the game if 81 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: one team does not have quarterbacks available in that scenario? 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Position groups? I mean we're talking, I mean, we're we're 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: seeing where it's you know, you guys, are I know 84 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: that what six players or whatever? That the University of Houston, 85 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: I think it was Texas Today. Texas today had a few, 86 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: and then the Houston Texans in the Dallas Cowboys had 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: some recently as well. All right, but I think there 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: was another university in Texas that had an issue while ago. 89 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm you're sit there and you think 90 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: about that. Okay, Well, what if you get a defensive 91 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: lineman who's positive and he's asymptomatic, and he spends all 92 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: week with his guys. You know, he's doing one on 93 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: one drills. And look, when you do one on one drills, 94 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean you're making contact with people. You know, you're 95 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: you're breathing on people. Uh, you're shedding things. I mean 96 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: that's what the definition what they're talking about how the 97 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: virus passes is through shedding. So what do you do. 98 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if if one guy tests positive, he's been asymptomatic, 99 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: he's been in the same room as everybody else, and 100 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: and you could have an entire room that's out, well, 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: that entire room also has been around the other entire 102 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: rooms in the huddles and on the field and in 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean, how how do you handle this? 104 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, it's so many questions, so many 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: And today, I believe, or yesterday, I think it was today. 106 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Dr Fauci, the infectious disease expert that is in the 107 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: White House and does all that stuff, said that football 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: probably won't be able to be played unless it's a 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: bubble situation like the NBA is talking about and Major 110 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: League Baseball, where basically you quarantine the entire team at 111 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: a place for the season. Well, that's not realistic. You 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: can't do that with you know, fifty three active guys, 113 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: ten practice squad guys, coaching staff, everybody. What are you 114 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: gonna do? Quarantine there, quarantine them and a bubble away 115 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: from their family, and then their family is going to 116 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: be quarantine and a bubble away from anybody else. Right. 117 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: That's tough, I mean, because you can't you can't expect 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: a player to be away from his family. But but 119 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the thing, is that even though 120 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: we were all hopeful that, you know, once we get 121 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the summer, that the frequency of transmission would down, and 122 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: obviously we're seeing some high set and some of the 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: testing procedures that related to an increase in positive tests 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: and and the virus spreading or is that related to 125 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: just the simple fact that there's a lot more testing 126 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: going on right now too. You don't know the answer 127 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: to that. And politics seems to get involved in everything, 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: and so sometimes it's hard to decipher what the truth 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: is going to be. But the boy, it's it's just 130 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: it's just hard sometimes to envisions. We head to this 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a break in the dead zone, you know, 132 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: when we come back, are we going to be out 133 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: of the dead zone or are we going to be 134 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: continuing to exist in the dead zone with a lot 135 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: of uncertainty? You know? So, uh, I don't have the 136 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: answer to that. And I'm sure that there's a lot 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: of a lot of possibilities that are being discussed at 138 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: the league level, at team levels, and and I have 139 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: a feeling that there's a lot of I don't want 140 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: to say indecision, but there's a lot of decisions that 141 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: haven't been made because they just simply don't know the 142 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: answer right now. Jeff Lockman with US Jaguars analyst. And 143 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: even if we do get to let's say training camp, 144 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: right and the players can practice and they figured it 145 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: out and they're gonna test and all that is fine, 146 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote, I don't think we'll be even close to 147 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: their lives to cover it. No, heck no, no, JP. 148 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: We won't be anywhere. We won't be allowed anywhere near it. 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I'll be sitting in this chair right here, interviewing guys 150 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: over zoom or however they set it up. That's how 151 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: that's going. It'll be, you know, if you want to 152 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: watch maybe on some kind of film, thinking that you're 153 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: not going down there to to be on the field 154 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and be around players and and for them to be 155 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: at risk of being around you. I mean, that's uh, 156 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: the the way that the game is covered from a 157 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: media standpoint. Media is going to have extremely limited access. 158 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Everything will be done via zoom or team whatever you 159 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: want to call, uh there or whatever avenue is most 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: available or readily available to to the masses. And uh yeah, 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna restrict everything. I mean, when when 162 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned just before, you know, when you talk about 163 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: having your team traveling, I mean, who's essential you're talking 164 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: about essential personnelity be able to have a football game. 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: But I mean here's the here's the thing. I mean, 166 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: that's assuming you could even have it right, I mean, 167 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: that's and and that right now, that seems to be 168 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, a pretty big assumption, you know, I mean 169 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: being said, I mean, what other what other pro sports 170 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: league is is playing right now? Well, you got soccer. 171 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: So the Premier League in England started yesterday, I believe 172 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: actual games, Bundesliga and Germany has been playing for a 173 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: little bit. Um Nascar, but that's not a contact sport 174 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: at least personal Nascar is about as good as social 175 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: distancing as you can do. Man could have got a car, 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, let him, let him umping grind, but bumping 177 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: grind is six ft or more at least. Yeah, that's right. Uh, 178 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: you're swapping paint, you're not swapping spit. So yeah, so 179 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that's about it. Bugs. And then once NBA gets going, 180 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that's the bubble thing. If there's been a little bit 181 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: of pushback from the players on that as of late, 182 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: to be in a bubble, JP, I mean, and you know, 183 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I mean because I will beyond you that now to me, 184 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: you're asking me sure if that means getting a paycheck, 185 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: I'll say, in the bubble, to get the paycheck and 186 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: then move totally understand that I don't have a family. 187 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: I don't have kids. I don't have any of that stuff. 188 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: So and that's that's where the question gets bigger and 189 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: the answer gets more difficult. And and with football you're 190 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: dealing with man much many, many, many more numbers than 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about with basketball. And I think that's why 192 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the league right now, as you know, I don't want 193 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: to say they've been quiet. I mean they've been certainly 194 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: responsive to some extent, but I think that they want 195 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: to see how it goes with other leagues that have 196 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: started or that are going to start, to see how 197 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: they can proceed and what might work and what might 198 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: not work. Right, but that's probably the last thing to 199 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: do in the Jaguars umbrella under the ownership group of 200 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: the cons Fulham Football Club and the Championship that the 201 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: second league in England. They start on Saturday, so they've 202 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: had some warm ups to get ready, so that'll be 203 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 1: really a first hand look with some of the Jaguars 204 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: folks involved in Fulham business as well over in London, 205 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: so we'll get a little better look there as well. 206 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Logan, with US Jaguars analyst, joining us here on 207 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. Well, the real virtual offseason program is over, 208 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: but on social media this week we saw a glimpse 209 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: into some Jaguars getting out on a local high school 210 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: field here and starting to work a little bit together. Um, 211 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: I believe Gardner Minshew was involved, d J. Chark, handful 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: of receivers, that kind of thing. You know, it's the 213 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: first time I think probably they've been able to get 214 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: together on their own. That's a good thing. I don't know, 215 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get a lot of answers is better 216 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: than not doing it, I guess. Yeah. I mean it's something. 217 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: And do we know that that's the first time they've 218 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: gotten together. No, I mean if yeah, I mean that's 219 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. If you have gotten together previously 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys with with having seen some 221 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: of the criticism that other players have gotten for gathering 222 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: with teammates to play catch or throw the football together, 223 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, some guys might have have done it a 224 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: little bit under the shroud of secrecy, you know, just 225 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: to not expose themselves to criticism for not practicing quote 226 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: unquote social distance team. So but I mean it's good. 227 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean as much as you can try to get 228 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: together and throw I mean, look, Gardner Minshew, even though 229 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: Uncle Rico did it, you know, he can't sit out 230 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: in park a van out in the middle of the 231 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: valley and to start throwing the football over the mountain 232 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: and get loose and feel like he's gotten a lot 233 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: of big workout. You know, you got to throw the people. 234 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: You gotta have speed, you got to have you know, 235 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: your guys and time me and so I mean, it's 236 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: good that they're doing that, and well, you hope that 237 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: they can do as much of that as possible between 238 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: now and the startup camp, just to kind of keep 239 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: things rolling along so that when you do get the camp, 240 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: or if there is a camp, and if there everything 241 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: is going smoothly that I don't want to say you 242 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: can hit the ground running, because I think that's a 243 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: far cry from doing what you need to do to 244 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: hit the ground running. But at least you've had something 245 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: that has has kind of kept you loose and coming 246 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: in feeling like, Okay, I'm not just coming in cold. 247 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman with US Jack Warres analysts the we've got 248 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: the next three shows off, so we're back July. I 249 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: believe is that Thursday will have this show return and 250 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be about a week or so out from 251 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: training camp. What's up in the month ahead for you, locks, Uh, 252 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: just just like what's been up for the last couple 253 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: of months, the ap Lots of family, family time and 254 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: uh and you know, and and a little bit of 255 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: work and other aspects of my life. So it's all good, man. 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Family is good. Life's good. Life's good and uh, you know, 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: as as as it can be with a worldwide pandemic. 258 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: And uh, hey, man, ribs are smoking on the girl 259 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: right now, so's it's not bad. Oh. I can stand 260 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: six ft away from you if you want me to 261 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: taste test those a little uh. Lots good stuff. Man, 262 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time throughout this pandemic, and we'll talk 263 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: to you in a few weeks. Man, J C. C. 264 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: Buddy Jeff lockhaman smoking ribs. It's a pretty darn good 265 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, and it's gonna be a better evening. It 266 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: sounds like at the Logiman household coming up time now 267 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: for the community. Spotlight Publix is helping those affected by 268 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic by buying food directly from farmers 269 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: to donate to food banks. 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One day away from the 342 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: three month anniversary of our last show at t I 343 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: A A bank Fields. We've been doing this show and 344 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: other programming obviously, video interviews and the NFL Draft and 345 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: everything that's come up between now and then from our 346 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: individual homes. So thank you for sticking with us throughout 347 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic here and we're gonna take the next three 348 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: Thursdays away and be back with you in mid July. Time. 349 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: Now to hear from Steve White, NFL Network reporter, analyst 350 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: and host. Longtime reporter in the National Football League for 351 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: a number of different publications in Miami. Harold he was 352 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: an nb A writer for the Washington Post covering the 353 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: Wizards and the league there for a little while in 354 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta with the Journal Constitution, and he's been with the 355 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: NFL Network for a number of years now. Social justice 356 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: causes for the Jaguars, they were really the first team 357 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: to to take a team approach. They were the first 358 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: team to to march. We'll start there and Jack's owner 359 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: Shot con I wrote the op ed piece that really 360 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: set the tone for the organization and a lot of 361 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways the National Football League. You'll 362 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: see the full video coming up early next week with Steve, 363 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: but a little piece of the conversation coming up here. 364 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Steve Whitch of NFL Network starting with Jaguars owner Shot 365 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Khan and his op ed piece back on June three. 366 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that piece when you first 367 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: read him. Yeah, Look, I think it was important because 368 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: as we know, Shan Khan is the only minority uh 369 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: Prince blowner in the NFL, and so for him to 370 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: come on writing op ed talking about some of the 371 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: race is him that he's faced and of course he's 372 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: he's overcome a lot of things financially in business wise, 373 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: but he still deals with it. Um was fantastic, you know, 374 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: and I really thought it was very important for him 375 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: to say he was going to listen to his players, 376 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: because that's something that owners have not necessarily done somehow, 377 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: but others have been more dictatorial and so you're gonna 378 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: do it this way or it's the highway. So the 379 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: fact that that's the tenor he set for the organization, 380 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: I think it's very important because it lets coaches know, okay, good, 381 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: I can give my players maybe some opportunities or freedoms, 382 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: and let's players know that they can seize control of 383 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: the narrative or what is going to happen with the 384 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: players without any type of obstruction. Steeve, do you think 385 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: that will be something that Mr Cohn starts that other 386 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: owners maybe taken and use on their own as well. 387 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Is that something like you said in the past, some 388 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: are dictatorial, It doesn't really work like that a lot 389 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: of places. Can this be a league wide phenomena. We'll see. Um. 390 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: You know, look, some owners are stepped out and they've 391 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: made statements, but you know, are they gonna put actions 392 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: behind their words? And some owners have been very active. 393 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: David Tepper with the Carolina Panthers sever ties with their 394 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: big security agency because they're their CEO of their head 395 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: was very dismissive of some of the things publicly about 396 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: what people are protesting against. So you know that this 397 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: is a wait and see. But I do think Shan 398 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Khan and taking the steps that he's taken, has shown 399 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: significant leadership, maybe to the rest of the owners, but 400 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: I think absolutely to his players and people in the 401 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: community who can see that the influence the Jaguars could 402 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: have and kind of being a guiding hand and measures 403 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: to be taken to kind of make some some repairs 404 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: to what's going on right now, certainly in a town 405 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: like this that the Jaguars are the big fish here 406 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. So whatever happens from this organization makes a 407 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: big impact of the community. We've seen that already with 408 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: the players marches through down town, including the mayor and 409 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: the sheriff. You don't get a lot of work both 410 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: ways in a lot of places, but Jacksonville is a 411 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: place where that has happened so far, it has, you know, 412 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is, you know some of these things 413 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: have been player legs all Leonard for NET and some 414 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: people you know, take take that the hold of that, 415 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: and some of them organizationally led. I mean, think back 416 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: when you were a little kid. I mean, even if 417 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: you've got a chance to meet an NFL player or 418 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: even see one you know on the sideline close or 419 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: in person and autograph signing whatever. Even if you know 420 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: that person said you like, hey, you can be a star, 421 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna think, man, he told me I can be 422 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: a star. And so players understand the influence of the 423 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: voice of the pro athlete or the or the head coach. 424 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: And that's something you know, you're seeing more and more 425 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: players recognized during this situation, this movement, whatever you want 426 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: to call it, that we're in right now. I think 427 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: they're understanding that, yeah, we may not be able to 428 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: change the minds to some people who are older, who 429 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: are ingrained, we can teach these young people or show 430 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: these young people away that we can be better and 431 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: more tolerant and more accepting. And that's what I think 432 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: so many people are forgetting about because maybe the people 433 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: who aren't buying the tickets but would be the next 434 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: generation to buy the tickets, those can be the significant influencers. 435 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Are those to be influenced in this moment. Steve Weisch 436 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: with us NFL Media, one of the highly respected reporters 437 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: on NFL Network, and it's been around the league for 438 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: a long time. You Steve obviously broke the story back 439 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: in August of of why Colin Kaepernick was first sitting 440 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: and then kneeling during the national anthem, And we bring 441 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: that up because his name is again at the forefront 442 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: of the league's I guess awakening is a good term 443 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: for what has happened over the last few weeks. Why 444 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on why it was so controversial 445 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: then and why that maybe has changed and his story 446 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: is moving this forward? Great Quie, And you know, I 447 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: don't think Kaepernick necessarily was simply why things have changed 448 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: with the league this time. I think it changed with 449 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: the nation. I mean, you're hearing news agencies and people 450 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: bring up his name, um in this moment, because he 451 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: told us, you know, when he first did not stand 452 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: and then eventually kneel during the playing of the national anthem. 453 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people got hung up on the fact 454 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: that he wasn't standing for the national anthem when he 455 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: was saying he was protesting some of the police brutalities 456 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: and judicial injustices that we're seeing come to the forefront 457 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: right now. Of course it was punctuated, um with the 458 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: killing of George Floyd. And I think anybody because we're 459 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: all home from this COVID right we're all watching our 460 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: TVs who can't escape it. Anybody who saw the police 461 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: officer with his knee on George Floyd's neck and George 462 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Floyd dying and screaming for his his dead mother. Um, 463 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: that wasn't a matter of black or white. That was 464 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: a matter of right and wrong. And so I think 465 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons for the ground swell. And 466 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: so this is what Kaepernick was talking about. So people 467 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: can harken back. Let's they see he was trying he 468 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: was trying to tell us he wasn't trying to offend 469 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: anybody at that time by not standing for the national anthem. 470 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: He was trying to offend us, to touch the nerve 471 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: that we're accepting too often of black and brown people 472 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: being killed by law enforcement or being or those or 473 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: those law enforcement officers not being held accountable for some 474 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: of their behaviors. So I think that's part of it, 475 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: um and that's why I think you're hearing more and 476 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: more than narrative, especially when it comes to NFL athletes. 477 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: Instead of saying I'm protesting, they're explaining why. And that's 478 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: the first thing I did the first article I wrote 479 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: about this, I explained why he was doing it. But 480 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: of course again that got lost in translation very quickly. 481 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: Steve Whitch with us NFL Network, final thought on Kaepernick here, 482 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a ground swell now for 483 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: him to be signed at some point by an NFL team. 484 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: I think the commissioner even mentioned his name the other 485 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: in an interview. Do you think a team will sign him? 486 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: And what type of team can handle this situation? It 487 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: was interesting first off there, Rodger Goodell said publicly that hey, 488 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: I've encouraged teams to sign Colin Caeferick privately, he's done 489 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: that for years, like, hey, you know he's a free agent. 490 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: You know you guys can sign him. Um, but it 491 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: hasn't happened, Which is why I think at this point 492 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't expect the team to sign him. I really don't. 493 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: It's they've had three years to do it most of 494 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: these teams. That means they've had three drafts to kind 495 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: of come up with their their quarterback development cycle. Even 496 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: though even the fact that calf has been out of 497 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: not play football in three years, you can look at 498 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: some backup quarterbacks and kind of say, you know, he 499 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: could he could probably at least compete. But you know 500 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: a team, you know, like the Jaguars, I mean, Mike 501 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Glennon is there, but there there's someone he could come 502 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: in and compete and be the backup. You know, Gardner 503 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: Minshew is who they're rolling with the starter. But then 504 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, and this is interesting the academy. 505 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: I've had someone you know, bring this to my attention. 506 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Do you bring him into a locker room where he 507 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: could either be polarizing or more popular than your starter? 508 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: And would you even worry about it because odds are 509 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: there aren't gonna be any media in the locker rooms 510 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: at least for the first few weeks of training camp 511 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: and maybe the regular season to ask players consistently about this, 512 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: which has always been something that has been a distraction 513 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: in that conversation. So I don't think it's gonna happen um, 514 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: but maybe some team will do it. And then you 515 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, will Kaepernick be willing to do 516 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: it um? Because he made his view as a patronizing 517 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: gesture instead of this is a sincere attempt, you know, 518 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: to get him a job back in the NFL. But 519 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: he may just say forget it anyway, I want to play. 520 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a shot. We just don't know. 521 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Steve Weis with this NFL network, you touched on a 522 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: little bit of this a moment ago, but the next 523 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: steps for players, ownership, organizations, and the league as a 524 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: hole in this movement. You know, this is the the 525 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: dead period of the off season. Players have been away 526 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: all off season anyway, but they're really away now. Does 527 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: this momentum stay until training camp? And then I guess 528 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: the next question is what this training camp look like? 529 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: And I think you just talked about it. They're a 530 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: little bit without media possibly and then without fans maybe 531 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: at some point the league still holding hope. The next 532 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: steps I think are the big question here. How does 533 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: this momentum caring? Yeah, you know that it's interesting. I've 534 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: got a I just an interview with three Vikings players 535 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: because they felt it was important to talk about this. 536 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna air on our programming this week because they're 537 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: ground zero right there in Minneapolis where the George Floyd 538 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: interne had happened and and this could was kind of 539 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: a trigger point, and they said it is up to 540 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: them as players, right, they've got to do their jobs. 541 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Excuse me, but used the platform ex giving the NFL 542 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Sundays their practices and their their profiles to still talk 543 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: ab out this. Yes, they know the playing games is 544 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: their occupation and that's what they're going to be focused on. 545 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: But that is where being on their Tuesday off days 546 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: or through some private type of pregame projects or whatever, 547 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: a postgame project. They've got to keep that going again, 548 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: we'll see. Um. You know, the football is a tough sport. 549 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: You really got to lock in on. Players have done 550 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: this before. This is nothing new in terms of community service. 551 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: As for how things are gonna look with COVID nineteen 552 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: still still you know out there and you know, not 553 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: really going away. In a lot of places, we still 554 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: don't know. Man, JP, it's there. There's so much unknown. 555 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: Teams are spoken to some folks with teams that they're 556 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: waiting on the lead from the league. The league is 557 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: kind of saying, well, we've got thirty two different markets. 558 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: We've got to see what's going on there. But you know, 559 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: clearly from everything i'm hearing, you know, media training camp 560 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: and there's either gonna be none or it could be 561 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: something where like say media coverage, we're you know, we're 562 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: parked in a tent and the players are here and 563 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: we're not gonna have any even six ft away interaction. UM, 564 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: social distancing and team facilities. You know, how teams are 565 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna work with players. You know, we're we're hearing about testing. 566 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: UM of course training camps are gonna be a team facilities. 567 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: And we get two games. Will there be fans or 568 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: won't there be fans? Because because here's something I think 569 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: about and I'm sure you have to. Let's just say 570 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: the league goes half capacity at stadiums pre game, What 571 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: are those thousand fans likely going to be doing on 572 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: the parking tailgating? So are there gonna be social distancing 573 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: while their tail game? Right? So then so then they 574 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: come into the stadium if you have people every other row, 575 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: but if you've got someone there to your left and right, 576 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: how's that gonna work? So it's it's it's I mean, 577 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's so complex because there's so many different 578 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: things happening in so many different cities. On the risk 579 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: that the NFL wants to put its players and trainers 580 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: and coaches and staffers in and the risk that they 581 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: want to put fans in um because in all honesty, 582 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: who knows if there's gonna be a vaccine or a 583 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: cure for this anytime in the near future. And so 584 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: there's just so many variables, and we've got about five 585 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: or six weeks to figure it out. It's very very 586 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: hard to tell. And I myself, as I'm sure you 587 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: are eager to find out how where this is going 588 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: to go, we certainly are. That's Steve whitech NFL Network 589 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: at whitech eighty nine on Twitter and a really good 590 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: follow there, very active the last few weeks with everything 591 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: going on around the national football again and the country 592 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: early as a whole. A good perspective there from Steve, 593 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: and you know, as the last note there is the 594 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: one we discussed with Logs as well. But we all 595 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: know until we get closer to training camp and and 596 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: see if this thing dies down at all, or if 597 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: there's a vaccine of some sort that comes on the market, 598 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: that's um all up in the air. As of June eighteen, 599 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: we're back. In a moment, we'll hear from John Ozer, 600 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com senior writer. He'll join us over the 601 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: phone line. We're about halfway home. It's Jaguars Happy Hour 602 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's Haymade Vodka is America's 603 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: original craft vodka. 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Was our final show at t I 673 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: A bank Field before the lockdown, of course, all the 674 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: many of the sports shut down the week prior to that. 675 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: On that Thursday and Friday that was players weekend, and 676 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: then um, we were in the office another few days 677 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: after that, and then finally that Thursday night, the March 678 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: nineteenth was our final show. And we haven't been back 679 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: in the office since, at least I haven't. A few 680 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: folks have been the last couple of weeks since they've 681 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: opened up some parts of the organization. Another person who 682 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: has not been in the office since then his senior writer, 683 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: John Osier, who joins us on the phone. Now, John, 684 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: good afternoon. Yeah, I'm kind of picturing Jake my desk. 685 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: Like I used to go down to Miami right after 686 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: Dan marine I retired and they had his locker they're 687 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: just sort of like encased it with glass. And it 688 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: was like it was when he retired. So I picture 689 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: like my in my crappy shirt that he said, sitting there. 690 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of sitting there all all wadded up encasing glass. Uh. Yeah, 691 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: it's um gonna be frozen in time. I think our 692 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: whole office time. Yeah, what was No, it's crazy, it's uh, 693 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's uh, it's the time we live in. It's 694 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: it's an odd, odd time. It sounds like, you know, 695 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: there's probably already dust settled on all of that down 696 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: at the stadium, but it sounds like there's gonna be 697 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: at least double the dust. You know. I don't think 698 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: we'll be in there doing anything for a while. John, 699 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: that didn't seem like it. And uh, I think we 700 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: talked about it last week, J. It just feels like 701 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: and logically, so I was getting questions about it two 702 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Hey, do you feel like the NFL is 703 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: being overly cautious and all that? It just feels like 704 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: they're not in the lock except with everybody else. Well, 705 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: as we've seen the last couple of weeks, I don't 706 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: think the NFL is being overly cautious. I think they're 707 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: being correctly cautious. They realized that the more people who 708 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: were together, the greatest, uh you know, without extreme caution, 709 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: the greater chance there is for flare up or whatever 710 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: you call it. So I expect them to proceed with 711 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: the absolutely most costume because I don't know how else 712 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: they would proceed. I mean, they realized that people together, 713 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: uh sweating, which players will do, is going to be 714 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: an extreme caution situation. They've got to figure out analy its. 715 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: So I don't anticipate being back around them. I just 716 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: said I saw talking Jags and covering the team. But 717 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: how that's gonna play out, how the season is going 718 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: to play out? Um, you know, I wrote today in 719 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: the Ozone, I think or maybe it's for tomorrow. This 720 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: has been a the weirdest, most obstacle filled off season 721 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: that you could possibly imagine, and I expect the regular 722 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: season to be that. Times ten senior writer John Osier 723 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: with us you mentioned the Ozone. How many consecutive days 724 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 1: is your streak of ozone posts? Now? You know it's 725 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: it's uh, I don't really I don't really count it 726 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: in terms of days because you gotta go sort of undoable. 727 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: I started the best in my recollection, and I said 728 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: times to get the original date messed up and I 729 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: to go back and check it either August eleventh or 730 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: four of two thousand eleven, so whatever that adds up 731 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: to one of those days it was. It was a Sunday, 732 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: and unfortunately for me, I kind of started it. This 733 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: was back when there was some doubt over whether Jaguars 734 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: games would be uh blacked out or not. That was 735 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: still a thing, and I sort of made the chronic 736 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: and hey, all, I'll do this every day and until 737 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: it gain is blacked out, sort of making the point 738 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: that I didn't think at that point anymore would be 739 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: blacked out. And I was just sort of flippingly said, hey, y'all, 740 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: well guess what JP put your money where you're math. 741 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: But on a serious now, that's not why I do 742 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: it anymore. As we've talked about, it's not overly hard 743 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: the answer fans questions, and it seems like read it 744 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: every day. Uh, it just for me to sit down 745 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: and answer Jaguar's sans questions. I feel fortunate too write 746 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 1: about football for a living when a lot of people 747 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot frankly and in the industry came from don't 748 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: have the opportunity. So the answer some questions for people, 749 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: and I think most people have a good time when 750 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: they're reading it. To do that really isn't that hard. 751 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: It's not big deal, and you know you're getting questions. 752 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: When you stop getting questions, you know there are bigger issues. 753 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: So there is any no doubt. Um, John, you've started 754 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: the ozone podcast. We've touched on this the last few weeks, 755 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: but this week we visited with Terry Robisky, running backs coach, 756 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: and Marcus Pollard, the director of player development, and those 757 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: are two gentlemen that were instrumental in the march from 758 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: the stadium to the Jacksonville Sheriff's office steps. Robiski has 759 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: been around this league for darn near forty years and 760 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: as an assistant coach starting with the Raiders way back 761 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: in the early eighties after a short playing career that 762 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: was injury shortened. In fact, Marcus Pollard had a long 763 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: career in the NFL as a tight end, was a 764 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: basketball player coming up and then worked his way in 765 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: the NFL a long career there and now on the 766 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: football side, basically as an adviser of sorts for players. 767 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: But UM, these guys were right there in the front 768 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: of this thing a few weeks ago and it was 769 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: what a forty four minute podcast that you had with 770 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: them this week? What what extra did you get out 771 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: of the conversation with him this week that maybe we 772 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't hear a couple of weeks ago. Well, the reason 773 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to have him on UM is, first of all, 774 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: they represent probably close to sixty five cumulative years of 775 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: NFL experience. H Terry has been at it, as you said, 776 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: since seventy seven Marcus started in the league, and he 777 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: hasn't I mean, I think he was out of the 778 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: elite for three or four years between retiring and comes 779 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: to Jaguar. So these guys have seen a lot. And 780 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: it struck me you were there with me JP when 781 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: Terry talked about I thought Terry was incredibly moving when 782 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: he talked during the March, I guess it's been two 783 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: or three weeks now too, and but he talked for 784 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: maybe a minute and a half or two minutes, and 785 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: it struck me that certainly, if he was interesting in 786 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: that regard, if Mark's was interesting on the on the 787 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: steps during an emotional time, that there had to be 788 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot more and some background into what they were 789 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: talking about that they could talk about there. So I 790 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: hoped that by having them on I could get a 791 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: little more of a feel for why. For Terry Robiski 792 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: it was. It was so moving for him to have 793 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: heard what shod Con wrote or to have read what 794 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: shot Com wrote on the website when he talked about 795 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: uh his essay on racism and to talk about what 796 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: Doug Moron's leadership had meant, and he talks about both 797 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: things on the steps, and in talking to both of them, 798 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: they both expanded on that and expanded on a lot 799 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: of the issues as to why what the players are 800 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: doing and why the actions that they are taking on 801 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: the racial equality, racial and social justice whatever we're calling it, 802 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: why that matter to them so much, and why they 803 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: believe in their hearts that this feels different, and why 804 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: it's so important in all the issues. So it was 805 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: as interesting and as insightful, I think as I thought 806 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: it would be, and I thought the most interesting thing 807 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: that came from it. Both of them talked, and both 808 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: of them kept circling back even when this wasn't the topic, 809 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: to how important the Doug Morons approach in terms of 810 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: making everybody feel comfortable talking about this or as comfortable 811 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: as as possible, and promoting the conversation how important that's been. 812 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: So our podcast next week is talking to coach Maron 813 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: about some of the same issues, and I think it's 814 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: taken in total. I think it's a chance if you 815 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: listen to it for about an hour and a half, 816 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: you really get a full feel for how some of 817 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: these conversations started, the tone of it, why that he 818 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: feels like it's important, and most importantly, why they feel 819 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: like it will continue to be an important topic that 820 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 1: everybody takes seriously, but even within the context of the season. 821 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: So long wit answer obviously, but I certainly feel like 822 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: we were able to talk about a lot of issues 823 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: that are really important right now. And this is going 824 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: to be important obviously throughout this season. And you know, 825 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: Doug Moron is going to carve out time in the 826 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 1: weekly schedule to have conversations about this with his football team. 827 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: That's that's really a slam dunk for him. I think 828 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna do that, and um, you know, I 829 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: think the players wouldn't like it if he didn't like 830 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: they were going to talk about it anyway, So make 831 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: the time for it, address it the right way, and 832 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: I think that's the way that Jaguars are going to 833 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: go here. John O's your senior writer Jaguars dot Com 834 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: with us. You know, we we touched a little bit 835 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks on this three four four 836 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: three defense thing. Um we have. It's certainly overblown. It's 837 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: not Madden, You're not like, you know, Todd wash said 838 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: that they haven't changed anything they've taught on their defensive front. 839 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: That you know, they still have the same fronts that 840 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: they've had, but they just have some different personnel and 841 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: they'll move some guys around a little bit. But it's 842 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: not like you're gonna choose the three four defense in 843 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: this on this play and Madden and the next play 844 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: bringing the four three and it's a totally different look. 845 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: That's that's not what this thing feels like at all. Well, 846 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: and so listen to Todd talk about it. Listen to 847 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: Dug talk a a little bit. They will be in 848 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: some front where they line up and it looks like 849 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: a three four when three four defense. What he means 850 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: is they are not a pure I you know, old 851 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers we had a huge nose tackle, and then 852 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: you had to quote defensive ends who were really glamorized 853 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,919 Speaker 1: defensive tackles who didn't rush the past or they weren't 854 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: shooting gaps, and he said, they're not really a two 855 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: gap team because teams that have those kind of players 856 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: asked those guys just to still gaps and not to 857 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: us the quarterback very much, and they're not quick twitch, 858 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: hit gap kind of players. The Jaguars have more players 859 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: who were one gap style, so it sounds like the 860 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: biggest difference is the strong sidelinebacker, who in this scheme 861 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: has been a Leon Jacobs type who plays off the ball, 862 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: whose pursuing side to side. They have more guys who 863 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: from that position can go line up put their hand 864 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: on the ground. And everybody I've talked to, and I 865 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: talked to Jason Rebovitch about this a couple of weeks ago, 866 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to run the story until Tid 867 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: had had a chance to talk. He said the same 868 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: thing to Ti to talk about. It's about versatility, and 869 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: it's about being able to give the offenses more pre 870 00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: snap looks that aren't eight four three looks. So they're 871 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: gonna use these players because Unique can do this, and 872 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen can do this, and Cassius Marsh they can 873 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 1: line up as defensive ends or lineback. That's the biggest 874 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: difference rather than the three or four four three in 875 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: a look. By the way, JP, that is about of 876 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: what they do. So it's it's a lot of talk 877 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: about you know, I've had people actually get mad, Oh, 878 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: Todd wash is an idiot because he's not running a 879 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: three four? What how do you do? You know, they're 880 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: trying to find a steam that fits their person now 881 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: the best no matter what you call, there's no magic 882 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: to a three four. Their defense wasn't bad last year 883 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: because they didn't run a three four. It was bad 884 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: because a lot of the players they had weren't playing 885 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: as well, they were getting old, and now they're trying 886 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to revamp the schemes. Anyway, JP, 887 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: it's a literally it's a little bit of a pet 888 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: peeve of But that's fine. That's why I brought it up. 889 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: I knew it. Yeah, I wanted to get a reaction 890 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: out of you, John. They're trying to figure out the 891 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: best team to fit the players that they've gone and gotten. 892 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: Then that's what they're going to be doing. That's what 893 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: they should do, right, makes sense. Yeah, And I'll keep 894 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: gad you questions about the three four three and and 895 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: that's fine, but it's it's a lot of it's gonna 896 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: be different looks. It's gonna be what this scheme has 897 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: been all along, a hybrid four three three four team 898 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: that depending on the personnel, can change based on the personnel. 899 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: John Osha with us you mentioned that unique and got 900 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: Quay's name in there, and that has been pretty quiet 901 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 1: as of late. You know, there was a lot of 902 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: tweeting going on a month or two ago from John, 903 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,479 Speaker 1: and you know, there's all as we've mentioned in the past, 904 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: there's only a few different things that can happen here 905 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: on this thing. But I'm curious if that heats up 906 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: at some point and if there's a deal done or 907 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: a trade done or what. You know, we just haven't 908 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: heard from that in a while, you know. Yeah, And 909 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: it feels like nothing to be said and nothing to 910 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: say for a while, and that one to I fIF 911 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: team throws around or whatever, this will start bubbling up 912 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: into a topic again. I would anticipate complete from me 913 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: on at some point. It wouldn't surprise me. I I 914 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: just don't know really what's going to change from what 915 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: David called look that after the draft, which is the hey, 916 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: we welcome him back, they didn't get any deals. My 917 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: understanding is they are in no hurry and not of 918 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: the inclination to trade Unique got way. This is not 919 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: a situation where the jag wardor saying we need him 920 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 1: out of the building. They want him in the building. 921 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: So right now, if if he doesn't play for the Jaguars, 922 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't play so and and more importantly, probably he 923 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: doesn't get paid. So is is that just smoke? Are 924 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: they looking to trade him sometime in August? I don't 925 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: think that. I I don't know how it'll play out, 926 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know that. A whole lot of scenes 927 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: from last of the draft and right that's the draft, 928 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: it felt like if he doesn't play here, he's not 929 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna play. Maybe that's why he's being quiet. I always 930 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: has to want to answer this day. I don't really 931 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: like to put words in Unique's mouth because he's perfectly 932 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: capable in tween that on his own. And I'll be 933 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: up front, I don't talk to Unique during the off 934 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: season just because I'm not calling players on that regard, 935 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: so I don't know what he's thinking or why he 936 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: does what he dies. I like covering him. I hope 937 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 1: he plays for the Jaguars, but because of his personality type, 938 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: which is he's his own guy. Now, that's what I 939 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: mean by that, he's gonna do what he wants to do. 940 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: I can't predict what he's gonna play it next year. 941 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: I hope he does well. We got the summer months 942 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: there to get to training camp and then we'll see 943 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: what happens on that front. And uh, you know that's 944 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: a big if obviously, the training camp and all that. Hey, 945 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: thanks man, appreciate you over the last few months here. 946 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: We're taking the next three weeks off, but we'll be 947 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: back about that. We'll Caesch back up with you in 948 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: mid July about that, alright, Retty, thank you? All right, 949 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: Johnny john os Or, Senior writer Jaguars dot Com. Good 950 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: stuff there is always from our buddy. We're back in 951 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: a moment. 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Florida Blues support extent beyond healthcare 1024 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: that they work for the community to provide meals for seniors, 1025 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: masks for healthcare workers and residents, funds for immediate needs, 1026 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: and expertise on prevention. JAP shattered from the home studio 1027 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes from Mandy. Let's touch around the 1028 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: National Football League. You'll get a kick out of this. 1029 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: Bear's quarterback coach John D. Philippo told the Chicago Tribune 1030 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: that he's looking for quote juice from the quarterback room. 1031 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: Mitchell Traviski, Nick Foles are there, and he said, quote 1032 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: we walk around with a little bit of swagger to 1033 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: ourselves in terms of knowing we're the best quarterback room 1034 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Quote from John D. Filippo, 1035 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: former Jaguars offensive coordinator. Take that for what you will. 1036 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: Dr Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of 1037 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: Allergy and Infectious Diseases and part of that White House 1038 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: task force on COVID nineteen, he said football teams we 1039 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: need to emulate plans by the NBA and MLS for 1040 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: a bubble format or consider not playing in the NFL. 1041 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: Chief Medical Officer Dr. Allen Stills put out a statement 1042 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: today saying that the league and the Players Association, with 1043 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: joint medical Advisors, are addressing to mitigate the health risk 1044 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: the players coaches another essential personnel. They will be flexible 1045 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: and adaptable in the environment to adjust to the virus 1046 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 1: as needed. And the league also today announcing that hard 1047 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: knocks will focus on two teams this year. That's right, 1048 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams and the Los Angeles Chargers. A 1049 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: new season of Hard Knocks kicks off August eleven on HBO. 1050 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: Our thanks our three cheers today to all of our 1051 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: guests throughout the last three months on the Jaguars Happy 1052 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: Hour other programming. The full list on on my Twitter 1053 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: bait to run it out of time, but thank you 1054 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: for everyone involved the last three months. We got the 1055 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: next three weeks off. We'll talk to you again July sixteenth. 1056 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: That's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Have 1057 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: a great song.