1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Welcome in. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: It is a new year and a new time here 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: in Houston. I am Indy Kalou. He is Mark VanderMeer, 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: and this is Texans All Access Players Edition, and no 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: better player to start with than one of the Ogs, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: one of the former Pro Bowl offensive linemen that we 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: wish was still suiting up. Wade Smith in the house. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: What's going on, Wade? It's game week, baby, I'm excited. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here. 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: It's an opportunity for us to discuss these Texans and 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: what we have going on this week against the Colts. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: I'm excited and looking forward to it. Man, Mark, I 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: know you're excited. 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: Well, you guys know, Look, you played against the Colts. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: I've just done the games on the radio. But to 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: open the season up there, it's never happened before in 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: the history of the franchise. And I thought that there's 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 4: no bigger game you can open with than at Indy. 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 4: I don't care who's on the schedule, Ravens, Chiefs. I 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: know it's a tremendous schedule, but are you guys with 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: me on that there's no bigger game than at Indianapolis. 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: I'll say because of the ramifications of not just it 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: being a rivalry, but it's a divisional game, and when 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: we start talking about wins and losses for playoffs, we're 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: gonna look to this game. 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: So in that sense, absolutely, yeah, I would agree with that. 27 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: I would say there could be a bigger game if 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: they're playing the Chiefs or maybe the Ravens or something 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: like that Week one on the road, that'd be a 30 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: pretty big game. But when you're talking about the division, 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: you're talking about the team that it went down to 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: the wirew Withis last year where it was a play 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: and get in situation and Texans came out on top. 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: There's a lot of storylines that go behind it, and 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: you know they've made moves in the offseason. Of course, 36 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: there have been a bunch of moves that we've made 37 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: in the off season. So it's something to definitely look 38 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: forward to. 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's big about this. One reason I'm excited. 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the preseason was awesome, coming out to the practices. 41 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: You know, you see all the positives. But I always 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: remind people because if you ask me, especially during the press, 43 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: this team's gonna seventeen to no. But you have to 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: remember there's thirty one other teams out there, and of 45 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: those thirty one and way correct me if i'm you know, 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: if you think the numbers off, I would say about 47 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: twenty of them feel as good as we feel about 48 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: the Texans right now. So now you're about to go 49 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: play a team that probably feels pretty good about their 50 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: team with their stud second year quarterback coming back. So 51 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: now we're really gonna see like, okay, where is this team. 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be in the NFL, you have to be 53 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: delusional and so that and delusion is not a bad 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: thing when you're talking about playing at the professional level. 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: You know, Indy Mention's twenty teams believe that they're going 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: to be really good. There's probably more than that that 57 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: actually they truly believe that they're gonna be actually good. 58 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: But there's probably fifteen or twenty teams that legitimately, if 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: they put things together and stay healthy, they feel like 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: they have a legit shot and you can make it, 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: you can make a case for it. And the Texans 62 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: are definitely one of those teams that, you know, last 63 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: year there were just somebody that people looked at. It's 64 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: just like, hey, you got a rookie quarterback head coach. 65 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: That's to see what happens now. The expectations are so 66 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: much higher based off of what was done last year, 67 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: based off the different moves that have been made an offseason, 68 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: so that the Texas are definitely one of those teams 69 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: that are in the mix. 70 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, yesterday, Demiko at his press conference, he was not 71 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 4: having any of oh, last year, this and oh everybody's 72 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: hunting for you. Now you're the hunted. He said, it's 73 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: the NFL man every week is huge. He was not 74 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: having any of it. He is in total lock in 75 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: regular season mode. 76 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: I just saw him walking into the studio, and when 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: I say that, there is he all always excuse me, 78 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: always walks with that pevenist death. But he was almost 79 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: skipping like and not like a punk, skipping like like 80 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, skipping like he's about to jump onto the field. 81 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: And you can just tell that everyone around here just 82 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: understands that it's game week. 83 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: All right. 84 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: I'm a little y'all know, I have ad Ac and 85 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm thrown off where in the new studio everything looks good. 86 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't first of all, who designed. 87 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: It, so Steven Overturf did the backdrop, but I had 88 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: to beg him for it. I said, give us a backdrop. 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: I wanted to be, you know, something that looks great, 90 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: specific yet nondescript at the same time. So we have 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: this Houston Texans lettering and the new colors and everything, 92 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: and the deep steel blue is so dark it's almost black. 93 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: You know, everybody's seen it by now. And then we 94 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: have the new logo on the screens, the ALT logo 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: I should say, with the H Town blue outline and 96 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: the red star. I love that one. I almost wish 97 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: that was the full time logo now, but are we 98 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: on the air. It's awesome looking, you know, you see 99 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: it on a lot of gear. 100 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: And the three helmets so and I know for those 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: listening they can't see what we're what we're saying, but 102 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: there's three different helmets. 103 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Well they wear all of these, yes they will. 104 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: You got the big H for the H Town blue 105 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: that's against Buffalo, right, you got the battle red that's 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: for Detroit that's Sunday Night game in November. And then 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: you have the regular deep steel blue home uniform home helmet. 108 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: And I wonder at some point they'll get another ALT 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: helmet and I guess white. I don't know what they're 110 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: gonna do, but it'll be cool. I think white would 111 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: be the next step. White helmet, you know, that'd be nice. 112 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: I think that would be a nice, nice little change up. 113 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: Just looking up what I've seen from the preseason games, 114 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: the regular white jersey and the regular you know blue jerseys, 115 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: Like they look amazing on on TV, they look amazing 116 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: in person, Like, I'm really excited about those two jerseys, 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: And then now when you got the battle red I 118 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 3: want to see what those horns look like viving in person. 119 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Like. 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: The team that put together the branding for the new 121 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: uniform reveal did an amazing job. And so now this 122 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: this studio is tricked out and and it's matching that 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: same feeling brand. 124 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that as well. 125 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: All Right, favorite helmet for each of y'all if they 126 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: could only wear one for the entire season? 127 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Which one are you? 128 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: Are we talking about fashion wise or we're talking about 129 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: actually playing in, playing playing in? 130 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Give me that that that battle red. 131 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: With the horns does look cool? Yeah, the battle red 132 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: probably is it. I like the h too. I don't 133 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: know about all year, but I like the h a lot. 134 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: The h is really cool. You can do so much 135 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: with it. We have this darker H that you use 136 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: with H town that you see around some of our stuff, 137 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: and that's in some of the branding. It's a secondary 138 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: kind of logo look if you will. The original logo 139 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: is still the logo, right, but the blue is darker, 140 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: the red is brighter. And when you look at that 141 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 4: helmet up there right now, as we're looking at it 142 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: on the radio, you're seeing it in your mind. Yeah, 143 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: the blue is a lot darker. But that looks like Texans, 144 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: you know. That looks like the look we know so 145 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: well when you guys played, was it? What was the 146 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: favorite uniform? Because I always thought the white tops liberty 147 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: white tops and the deep steel blue pants on the road, 148 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: that wasn't a real intimidating look. We won't a lot 149 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: of games in those, but it wasn't really intimidating. I 150 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: like the new white. I think the new white is 151 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: badass and it's gonna look awesome all year long. 152 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: I always liked when you have the same color top 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: and bottom, so I never really cared for mixing the colors. 154 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: I always just felt like, if you wear all white, 155 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: that looks cleaning on its own, or if you're going 156 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: all dark. I didn't like the mixing, but I will 157 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: say this. We played Denver on Thursday Night football and 158 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: we were wearing all red. I thought that was sweet. Yeah, 159 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: but won and we won and certain people are like, oh, 160 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: we looked like a ketchup bottle. But I thought that 161 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: all red was sweet. I completely agree with you. My 162 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: favorite was the battle Red, but it was red on red. 163 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: We've done battle Red whar it was red on white before. 164 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: After I left the Texans, they did battle Red where 165 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: it was red on blue. 166 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: To me, that was the best looking one that I 167 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: got to see someone wear. But red on blue, yeah, 168 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: that was like right after I left. They started doing 169 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: the red on blue and I was like, oh, that's 170 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: so sweet, Like I wish I was there for that. 171 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: But the red on red those were that, and then 172 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: like the deep still blue and I think we might 173 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 3: have did blue on blue. 174 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe it was blue on white. 175 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: I can't remember, but when we were playing against the 176 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: Falcons in twenty eleven, I had a black visor with 177 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: the deep still blue if you just go go because 178 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: I had an eye injury like a couple of weeks 179 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 3: before that, so I got clear to wearing a dark 180 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: black visor. 181 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Bro. 182 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: When I'm talking about clean, I'll put it up for 183 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: you after this over like that that look in that field, 184 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: that was the best. And so what they have going 185 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: now with the with the darker blue and almost looking black, 186 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: it kind of gives that same feel. And it was 187 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: against the Falcons, so that that was Those were say, 188 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: my favorite, but the battle red is definitely on point. 189 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: Have you seen the Colts uniform? I have not seen 190 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 4: Indiana Knights. It's a black helmet with the horseshoe. I 191 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: think the horseshoes a little brighter blue or something. I'm 192 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: trying to describe it off memory here, but Indiana Knights, 193 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: come on, Indiana Knights. Us is Tom Petty come on? 194 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Yehia? 195 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: Well it's a line from a Tom Petty song. Okay, 196 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: Last Chance, Last Dance with Mary Jane. He goes Indiana 197 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 4: something with the Indiana Knights. I'm not doing it justice, 198 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: trust me, but that's a theme for them. They want 199 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: to get dark and mysterious and badass and come on, 200 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 4: you're the Colts. In fact, I'll support them in this. 201 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: You have this iconic NFL uniform. That's one of those 202 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: you really shouldn't do too much with because you've been 203 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: around Johnny Unitis and the nineteen fifty seven overtime game 204 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: against the New York Giants that changed the history of 205 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: the league. You know, they have a lot of history, 206 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: obviously most of it in Baltimore. But that's an iconic uniform. 207 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: So is it Nights with a K? No? 208 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: No, it's Knights, will Nights go out Tonight? 209 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 210 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: Now that feels like that was one hundred percent the 211 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: owner because that whole classic rock thing. You're right that 212 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: because I don't think any of the players will know 213 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: who Tom Petty is or I. 214 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 4: Don't think a little Pink Houses with John Cougar Mellancaps. 215 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah, they would know something off twenty 216 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: one Savage or NBA young Boy. So but you know what, 217 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: if you own the team, you could absolutely do what 218 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: you want when it comes to that. All right, Speaking 219 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: of to play on the field, once we decide what 220 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: uniform is gonna be worn, and they're playing against the 221 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Colts or the Knights, whatever they want to refer to, 222 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: what's your biggest I'll say fear, Like when you look 223 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: at the different position groups of the opponent, like what's 224 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: the one position group you say, you know what, for 225 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: the Texans to win, blank has to happen. 226 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: What's the group that they have to stop. 227 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: Well, I definitely wouldn't say fear, but there's definitely something 228 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: that would be concerned with is the run game of 229 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: the Colts. And it's the run game not just Jonathan Taylor, 230 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: but it's the combination of Taylor and Richardson running the 231 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: ball as a quarterback. That's to me the biggest challenge 232 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: that the Texans have on Sunday, and that's going to 233 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: be the determined effector if they come out with the 234 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: w Like if they're able to limit Jonathan Taylor to 235 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: where you know, you maybe he's averaging you know, three 236 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: point eight, you know, yards per carry and Richardson doesn't 237 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: have any explosive plays like that. I think that's going 238 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: to lead you to where you're going to be controlling 239 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: things defensively and then your offense can go and do 240 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: what it wants to do. But you know, Jonathan Taylor, 241 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: if they get rolling and then Richardson that combination, you know, 242 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: he doesn't really strike much fear of me throwing the ball, 243 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: yet I have to see it. I haven't seen it yet, 244 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I've seen him make some 245 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: plays here and there in college, and he's been injured 246 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: a bunch in the league. But you know what he 247 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: can do with his legs in that plus run run game. 248 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: That that's that's scary. That that could be concerning, and 249 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: so they're gonna have to make sure that you're on point. 250 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: Would stopping that for. 251 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: Me, it would be I agree, Wade. The Jonathan Taylor 252 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: factor is not being discussed enough. I think it's almost 253 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: like this week, a lot of the media that gets 254 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: to talk all the time finally discovered, hey, wait a minute, 255 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor still on this football team. Because so much 256 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: offseason talk has been about Anthony Richardson. And I get 257 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: that too, because he could be really dangerous, and he 258 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: was dangerous here in that Week two game last year. 259 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: But to me, Jonathan Taylor, can you slow him down? 260 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: That Week eighteen game, it was tough to slow him down. 261 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: He had that ankle injury whatever it was, came back 262 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: into the game, was still running the football. That to 263 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: me is a big problem. Plus a lot of people 264 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: talk about, well Richardson, he gets hurt a lot. This 265 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: that the other thing hasn't played that many games. Yeah, 266 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: but it's Week one. All he has to do is 267 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: run wild and he can make plays. And then all 268 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: of a sudden, they're putting points on the board and 269 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: you've got to match that, and you got to match 270 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: it against that front with the Forest Buckner and Grover Stewart. 271 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 4: That's tough to puncture holes in. So I think it's 272 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 4: both sides of the line of scrimmage tight, where you 273 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 4: got to stop the run and you gotta be able 274 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: to run on them. 275 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Look. 276 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: CJ should be able to if he gets some times, 277 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: should be able to make a lot of plays. But 278 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: it puts a lot of pressure on your passing game 279 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: if you're not running the football. We still don't know 280 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: how effective they're going to be doing that. 281 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: And as funny as we're talking, because during the preseason, 282 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: you know you're preparing and you're talking about guys hoping 283 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: they make the team and who had a nice practice 284 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: the Forest Buckner. Now you're bringing up real names and 285 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: real guys, and I'm like, uh oh, oh, yeah, that's 286 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: gonna be tough to stop. I don't care who's lining 287 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: up on the offensive life side of the ball. The 288 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: one position group that you you know, a fan on 289 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: the outside looking in. I don't know if it's concerned fear, 290 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: but you want to make sure they stay healthy. It's 291 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: a position group that you excelled on for a long time. 292 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: What do you see with the Texans starting five with 293 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: the guys up front? 294 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: Well, from what I've seen, like, I really like the 295 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: progress that I've seen out of Kingon Green this offseason. 296 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 3: He's growing into being the guy that they thought he 297 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: would be drafted him in the first round. Juice Scruggs 298 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: playing at center, I think that's a better position for 299 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: him as opposed to playing He had to play left 300 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: guard last year and he did a good job. But 301 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: now he's in the spot that I think he'll be 302 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 3: able to thrive in as a center. Shaq Mason and 303 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: Shack Mason, he's one of the better guards in the 304 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: league and he's been that way for a long time. 305 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: He's continued to do that. 306 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: Titus Howard, I think is in his best position now, 307 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: going back to being the right tackle, even though he 308 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: played left guard last year before he got injured. And 309 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: then and then you got leerm Me Tontel, who is 310 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: arguably the best left tackle in the NFL. So when 311 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: you put all those pieces together, I like what I 312 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: see and I think being healthy it's key. But I 313 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: do think that some of the guys that played last 314 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: year and got some experience, I think that gives them 315 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: some quality depths. And so if a guy does miss 316 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: a game or two, you know, knock on wood, that 317 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. But if it does happen, you have 318 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: some guys that have had some experience. And you know, 319 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: you mentioned the run game, and I tell you what, 320 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: it's one thing that I know a lot of people 321 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: are concerned about, but I know Joe Mixing is running 322 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: this style offense before. I feel like this is the 323 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: second year of these guys blocking in that in this 324 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: run scheme, and it's something I'll be honest with you, 325 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: I'm not really concerned about the run game. I feel 326 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: like they're gonna have a lot of light boxes. I 327 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: think because of the receiving core that you have around them, 328 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: that you're gonna have great numbers up front every time 329 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: Mixing is getting the ball, and so Joe Mixing in 330 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: a light box with the offensive line we have, I 331 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: think they're gonna have a tremendous amount of success. So 332 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: although we haven't seen it yet in the preseason because 333 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: a lot of guys weren't mixing, wasn't playing, Tonto wasn't playing. 334 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: A lot of guys weren't playing. That's that's one of 335 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: the things that I'm really not that concerned about because, 336 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: like I said, it's the second year of the offensive 337 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: lineman blocking in the scheme is Joe Mixon that is 338 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: played in a scheme like that with the offensive line 339 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: that I don't think is as good as the one 340 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: that we have here. And he had a bunch of 341 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: success and he didn't have I mean, he had a 342 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: really good receiving core in Cincinnati, but it's not as 343 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: good as what I think this one he's gonna hear 344 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: in Houston. So I'm looking forward to them running the 345 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: ball effectively and then being able to put a lot 346 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: of points up on the board. 347 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: Well, this affects everybody. This affects all teams. But what 348 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: about the factor This is often discussed early in the season. 349 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: Offensive lines starting five units have not played much in 350 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: the preseason, if at all. Now they play, and they 351 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: have to play the full game, and they got to 352 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: go the first few weeks until they really get that 353 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: rhythm according to many, is that a real thing? And 354 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: what goes into that? How do you see it? 355 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: It's hard to say because back in my day, I'm 356 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: get on my line right here. We did play in 357 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: the preseason, and so you know, we didn't play the 358 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: last game of the preseason, but we got our first 359 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: quarter in the first game and halftime in the second game, 360 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: and then into the third quarter the third game, and 361 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: then the fourth game didn't play at all, and that's 362 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: how we did things. 363 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: So you're able to get your rhythm. 364 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: Like I said, I think that what's going to help 365 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: them tremendously is that they're going to be in a 366 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: lot of favorable situations running the ball. When when we 367 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: were running the same scheme ten years ago, you know, 368 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: I guess it's about ten years ten twelve years ago. 369 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: There were games where we didn't have a light box. 370 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: There was a games where we were going to have 371 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: to get an extra guy in a box, and we 372 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: knew that and still had success. I think we didn't 373 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: have We had good receiving course, but we didn't have 374 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: a receiving corps like I think the one we're going 375 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: to have this year and going forward, so I think 376 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: that's going to help them kind of offset some of 377 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: that lack of continuity and the fact that this. 378 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Is the first go around. 379 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: I will say this too, it's the first time that 380 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: the defensive line that they're facing and the linebackers that 381 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: they're facing are going to go sixty and seventy plays 382 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: as well. So it's not like it's just the offensive line. 383 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: It's their first time playing together for an extended period 384 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: of time. It's going to be the same thing for 385 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: the coach defense. So I think a lot of that 386 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: stuff kind of bound itself off. I think the fact 387 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: that they have experience in this scheme. I'm talking about 388 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: mixing doing that in Cincinnati, same stuff, and then you 389 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: know the guys that are here this being their second 390 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: year to it. I think that's going to help them 391 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 3: kind of offset the fact that they haven't played as 392 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: much in live action quote unquote in the preseason. 393 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: To get a little technical, you and I have talked 394 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: about the different schemes upfront with the blocking, but always 395 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: hear about like, oh, this running back he runs better 396 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: in this game. That schame right for the average not average, 397 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: I hate the word average. For the casual fan who's 398 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: like running back, just hit the hole. Can you kind 399 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: of explain like why certain running backs are better in certain. 400 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Systems, Well, certain guys. 401 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: I would just say that to be a zone outside 402 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: zone running back to run the ball effectively, you have 403 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: to have great trust, and you have to have great vision, 404 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 3: and you have to have a great burst. And so 405 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: not all running backs possess those traits. Some running backs, Hey, 406 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: if you tell me there's going to be a hole 407 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: right here, I'm gonna hit that whole one thousand an hour. 408 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: But if you're telling me, I have to press the 409 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: hole and press it, press and press it until I 410 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 3: can and then put my foot on ground again north 411 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: and south. Sometimes they see go. Sometimes they don't have 412 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: the feel for it, and so you're you're chopping your 413 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: feet in the backfield, and so you're having issues with 414 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: actually hitting the holes. That start to unfold because with 415 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: the outside zone scheme, the holes will be there, the 416 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: gases will be there. You have to set up your 417 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: blocks with the way that you're pressing the whole, forcing 418 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: the defense touse. You know, as a defensive player, your 419 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: linebackers are going to mirror the route of the running back, 420 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: and so if the running back is still running at 421 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: a forty five degree angle to the outside. That's where 422 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: the linebacker's going to go. And so you're going to 423 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: bring the linebackers into the offensive lineman the block if 424 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: you keep doing that. But if you stop too soon, 425 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: then now the linemen can't get up to their second 426 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: level blocks, and so now you have guys free in 427 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: the hole and you're not having success to the running back. 428 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: And so some of the great ones have issues outside 429 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: running schemes because it just they don't have that feel 430 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: for But a guy like Arian Foster, you know, he 431 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: had great vision, a great vision. Could put his foot 432 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: in the ground getting north and south, and there were 433 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: times that he didn't. He didn't press the whole too 434 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: turn around, hey, come on, two three, pressed the whole like, 435 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: let's set the block up so that you can till 436 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 3: you can do your work. And so it's not an 437 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: easy thing to do, but he did it so often 438 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: and he was so consistent at it. 439 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: He was very difficult for defenses to slow down. There's 440 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: another running back. I can't believe his name's escaping me. 441 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: He played for Pittsburgh not too long ago. But he 442 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: was so patient. There'll be times I'm watching the game 443 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: and I'm like, what is he doing? Oh, that's what 444 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: he's here talking about. Le'Veon Bell, That's exactly what I'm 445 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: talking about. He was like he really trusted his linemen 446 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: and what they were doing, because the would be games 447 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: where I'd watch and I'm like, like, what is he doing? 448 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: Did he forget where to go? And then once that 449 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: hole opened up he would just. 450 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Hit it home. Yeah. 451 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: And he his patience was was he had more patient 452 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: than any running back I've ever seen. And the blocking 453 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: scheme that they had was kind of it's called duo 454 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: where they're trying to get a double team on the interior. 455 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: Guys are on the down line as many double teams 456 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: as possible, and so in order for those double teams 457 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: to work and get guys off the ball, it takes 458 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of time to work them off the ball. 459 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: And so you know, Le'Veon was perfect for that type 460 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: of scheme because he was patient and when he saw it, 461 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: he was able to hit it. And so even those 462 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: two different schemes a lot of the same principles of 463 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: being patient, being able to wait to see the whole 464 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: open up and then hit it. Those things are are synonymous. 465 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: You know, Andre Johnson talked about running the same route 466 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: or running most routes the same way to disguise what 467 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 4: you're going to do. 468 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Correct. 469 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: You guys had to do that too as a line. 470 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: And I can't help myself. If Wade Smith is here, 471 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: I'm going to go there. So twenty ten, that was 472 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: your first game, the two hundred and thirty one yard 473 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: Arean game. 474 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Right, beautiful, beautiful j debut. 475 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. We always talk about Arian having that great day. 476 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: It was this guy's debut on the old line. And 477 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 4: I know all that. You know, it's five guys, but 478 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: that was a hell of a debut for you, paving 479 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: the way, helping pave the way for that historic afternoon 480 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: for area. 481 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful thing. Man. 482 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: I remember at the end of the game, you know, 483 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: looking up at the at the scoreboard, and I think 484 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: the score was like thirty one twenty one if I 485 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: remember right, Yeah, And we ran the ball up and 486 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: down the field of Remember those guys tapping out, you know, 487 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: they had a Dwight Friendan who's now a Hall of Famer, 488 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: and Robert Matthis on the other side. Those guys were 489 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: tapping out. They didn't want any part of what we 490 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: were doing. And I thought to myself at that moment, 491 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I made the right choice because I 492 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: was a free agent. I had all these different visits, 493 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, I knew this is the right 494 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: place to be. We ran the ball. How many carries 495 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: we had probably forty something carries, but we we we 496 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: gave it to them and it was it was a 497 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: beautiful feeling because it was a lot of outside zone stuff, 498 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: but we also ran a lot of gap trap stuff 499 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: where I was able to pull and get out in 500 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: front of Arian and you know, you got to full 501 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: back like Vonte Leech, who was just a terror for 502 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: safeties and linebackers on that second level and third level, 503 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: and so yeah, yeah, you know, playing against the Colts, 504 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: that was something that we kind of held, you know, 505 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: hung our head on of, like, hey, we're going to 506 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: be more physical and then we're going to run them 507 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: out of the field. And so I'm looking forward to 508 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: seeing some of those similar things. I think, like I said, 509 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: I think I'm a lot higher on the run game 510 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 3: on what the Texans is going to be because I 511 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: understand in this offensive scheme what it's like for a 512 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: defense to try to figure out what they're going to stop. 513 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: If you have the offensive line and everything looks the 514 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: same and the shifts and motions looks the same. In 515 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 3: one play it's an outside run, the next play it's 516 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: a it's a it's a power to the front side, 517 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: the next player is a play action, and we're going 518 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: over your head and you're hitting Nico deep. As a linebacker, 519 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: how do you play that? You know, as a linebacker 520 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: and as an offensive lineman, you have a direct effect 521 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: on how that linebacker sees what he's seeing, and so 522 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: you can give them false reads to where there's plays 523 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: that were called in the huddle where you knew Dre's 524 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: gonna get a twenty fifth. It's going to be an 525 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: exposive play, like you know in the huddle. If I 526 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: sell this right, it's gonna be supposed to play. And 527 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: when that linebacker comes up and Danier touches you on 528 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: that play and you and you just kind of look 529 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: at him like, yeah, I got you. And the ball 530 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: is and Andre is wide open over the middle. He's 531 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: got two safeties over the top, but he's settled down 532 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: in the little zone. Catches is gonna turn up and 533 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: get him an extra five ten yards. It's a beautiful 534 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: feeling because you know it's an offensive lineman. You had 535 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: a direct, You were a direct. A reason why there's 536 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: such a big gash in there because you're gashing and 537 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: running the ball and then it still looks the same. 538 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: And so so that's how you did that because you 539 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: ran that. Andre Johnson O d caught a few of those. 540 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: Darry and caught a few of those. Yeah, so that's 541 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: how you did it. 542 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there'sertain there's certain plays in a huddle where you 543 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: know where if coach casts some some some throwback, it's like, oh, oh, 544 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: they're about to have a this is gonna be a touchdown, 545 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 3: you know, because we're gonna everything's gonna start going to 546 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: the right. 547 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: He might he might start an overwrop and then. 548 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: Bend it back into the to the corner and he's 549 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: gonna be wide old. 550 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: So that's like the Schultz play in the Cleveland playoff game. R. 551 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly what it was. And it was just 552 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: like it was like deja vu, but it's not deja vu, 553 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 3: but you know the play that was called, and you 554 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: know that feeling of being in the huddle like oh, 555 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: this is gonna work. We've been gashing them, you know that. 556 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 3: There's it's very difficult for you to see a scenario 557 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: where the safety is going to play this play right, 558 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: or the linebackers are going to play this play right 559 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: because they have people yelling in their ears too, Hey, 560 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: we got to stop the freaking run. These guys are 561 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: gashing us for six yards, ten yards, you know, all 562 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: that stuff, and then you hit him over the head. 563 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: And so then now at that point now when they're 564 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 3: playing defense, everything is hesitation. And if you make a 565 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: defense hesitate, you got them, especially when you have guys 566 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: like we got guys, So that that is the excitement 567 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: when it comes to and you've seen it with a 568 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: bunch of teams. You see the forty nine ers do 569 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: the same things. The Lions are doing the same thing. Now, 570 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: the Bengals, a lot of these teams out there run 571 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: the same stuff that we were running back in twenty ten, eleven, 572 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: and twelve here in Houston. 573 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: I tell you it was cool the way you break 574 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: it down to give props to the offensive line for 575 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: that play to work. Because even as a defensive player, 576 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: I remember playing with Od and playing with Andre and 577 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: they'll be plays where we're watching and the defensive players like, 578 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: why is od wide open? We'll take it, you know, 579 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: we're happy, but we're like, it's a defensive player that's 580 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: not the tight end that you leave wide open. But 581 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: like you said, because of the way you sell certain 582 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 2: places as an offensive lineman, the linebacker is going to bite. 583 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool to you know, obviously see and 584 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: hear from the offensive lineman's perspective, like, hey, it's not 585 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: just a good route that was being run, it's because 586 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: we also sold it up front. All right, quick time out, 587 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: there's some things that need to be sold. Texans All 588 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: Access Players Edition, don't touch that dial. Welcome in, Welcome back, 589 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: Texans All Access, the Player's Edition. I am ind Kalu. 590 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: He is Mark Vandermer Wade Smith, the player player sitting 591 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: in with us. Always appreciate you y'all listening, and definitely 592 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: appreciate our guests for getting in with us. Texans All Access. 593 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: You know what, I want to step away from football 594 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: real quick, and I'm going to put the guy to 595 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: my right on the spot. Vander Kid moved to Austin. 596 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: Oh he did, Yeah, Vander dropped him off. Very interesting tears. 597 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 4: Look, it hit me several times in the last few months, 598 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: you know, graduation, just knowing that, oh, this might be 599 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: the last ping pong. We have these epic ping pong battles, 600 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: you know, and he's eighteen. Now you beat men. It's 601 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 4: not fun. And you know, it's just so much fun 602 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 4: to be around him. And John Lopez says it best. 603 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: You know, what's the best age? Every age, you know, 604 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: they get older, but you enjoy them in different ways. 605 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: But leaving home and I know you've been through this 606 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: and you've both been through this. Yeah, it's I've never 607 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 4: been through it, you know. And I'm a late bloomer 608 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 4: as a dad, you know, a little older as a dad. 609 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: But that is a gut punch man dropping them off 610 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 4: and that whole thing. 611 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Now. 612 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: I didn't get to drop him off the first time 613 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: last week as I had the final preseason game against 614 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: the Rams. That was that day you get to move 615 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: in between eight and nine am. Well, I went this 616 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: past Labor Day and we saw the Longhorns play Colorado State. 617 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: So it was just he and I went to the 618 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: game and that was cool and it was just great 619 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: to see him. You know, he's in college and I've 620 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: never really been a long horned sports fan, but now 621 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 4: he is. So it's like, okay, I'm longhorned dad, let's 622 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: let's go for it. But it's very impressive. You know 623 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: what they have there and everything. It's very cool. So 624 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: thanks for bringing it up. He's he's at my Comb 625 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: School of Business, doing great so far. But it's early. 626 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 4: You know, he's got he's got a hunker down here. 627 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh he'll be fine. When you was his father, he 628 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: will be fine. And I will say, this is very impressive. 629 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: We talked to him during the production meeting, and I'm 630 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: always impressed with teenagers who can actually speak to adults. Yeah, 631 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: you know, and carry a conversation. He definitely could do that. Yeah, man, 632 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: I'm be honest with you. 633 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: It makes me feel kind of old man because Vanderkidd 634 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: being a freshman in college now it's like wow, like 635 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: I really remember him being around all the time back 636 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: in my time here with the Texans, and now he's 637 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: he's in college. It's crazy, but that's a cool feeling 638 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: to be able to drop your kid off and know that, 639 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: you know, all the stuff that that they've been able 640 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 3: to do over the you know, over their scholastic career, 641 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: high school, middle school, whatever that they've gone through, it's 642 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: paid off. And now they're at their higher educational situation now. 643 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 3: And you know, Indy's got a got a son at 644 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: Baylor and a daughter in school now too, and and 645 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: now vander kid is at Texas and I have a 646 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 3: daughter in Mississippi State. So it's definitely a good point 647 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: and you're like, man, Okay, I'm not going to see 648 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: my baby for like a few months like this, it's 649 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 3: going to be a few months. But then when they 650 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: come back, it's it's a good feeling. 651 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: You know. 652 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: Then they come back during those breaks, and those breaks 653 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: come a lot faster than you thought that they would 654 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: come when you drop them off because time goes by fast. 655 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: We all have other kids and so that that helps 656 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: the time kind of go by faster to but you 657 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: you really appreciate it when they are around after they've 658 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: been gone. So it's it's it's really cool and they 659 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: start a genie and maturing and you kind of look 660 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: at them more of it's like, hey, this is like 661 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: this is a grown adult that is really handling their 662 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: business and doing cool things. So it's it's a fun 663 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: stage in life. 664 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: I would say, I feel like I've texted with him 665 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: more now than we were in the previous few months, 666 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: because once they get a car, yeah, access to a car, 667 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: you feel like they've left already. You know, you don't 668 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: see that much. And he's got a girlfriend. He's out 669 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: all the time, and he doesn't stay out Lady's a 670 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: good kid. You know, he handles his life pretty well. 671 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: But now we're going back and forth and stuff because 672 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: he asks all these questions. So it's kind of cool, 673 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: it's fun. 674 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing that up, Indian, No, No, for sure. 675 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: I mean we're all dads here and I it hit home, yes, 676 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry last week when I saw you with 677 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: him and we were talking about you dropping him off. 678 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: I want to ask both of you guys a question though, 679 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: before we get off this dad thing. In a way, 680 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: sort of because Demigo Ryans at his introductory press conference 681 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: talked about, Hey, I want the guys to be better men, fathers, husbands, 682 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. He said it again in a 683 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 4: recent press conference, and it's a bit I deal with him, 684 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: and I really feel like, look, I've heard talk like 685 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: that before, and I know we've had good coaches here 686 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: and there are great coaches all around the league and everything, 687 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: but there's just something about him that's really special that way. 688 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: And you guys played with him, but how do you 689 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: see it the effect that he has on these young 690 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: men who are playing for him right now. 691 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: For me, it's a little different because I get a 692 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: chance to talk to the guys, you know, during production 693 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: meetings and just podcasts, and they all bring up something 694 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: he said or he did, or the way he lives 695 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: his life and how it rubs off on them. And 696 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: that's just how he was even as a guy. I 697 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: believe I'm ten years older than him when when we 698 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: played together and I was in the latter part of 699 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: my career and he was a rookie, second year player, 700 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: and he just had this way about him like I 701 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: would come in early because I needed early treatment just 702 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: to be able to practice, and he would be the 703 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: first one. This isn't made up for the sake of 704 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: the podcast. He would always be the first one in 705 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: the locker room excuse me, reading the Bible. And I 706 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: was all, okay, why do you do it at this time? 707 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: And he said, well, I have to get it in now, 708 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: because you know, once the day gets started, it gets harder, 709 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: and he was so dedicated to that, and you knew 710 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: that he wasn't just a special player. He wasn't just 711 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: a special linebacker. You know, this is a special dude, 712 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: and that's how he lived his life. So I think 713 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: not only is it affecting them as football players on 714 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: the field, I get the sense that a lot of 715 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: guys that are playing for him also just want to 716 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: be better men because they see the benefit of being 717 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: a good man. 718 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 719 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it just shows that he's a genuine person 720 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: and he genuinely cares about his guys and what they 721 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: strive to become, whether it's on the field or off 722 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: the field. I think, you know a lot of times 723 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: people can pay lip service to that sort of thing, 724 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: but he lives it. He walks that way as well, 725 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: so that that translates to the to the guys. And 726 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: so you want to play for and you want to 727 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: have you want to put your best foot forward for 728 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: somebody that you know genuinely cares about you as a 729 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: person as opposed to just as a player, like as 730 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: opposed to what can you do for me? It's like, hey, man, 731 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: what what can I do for you to help you 732 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: become a better father, become a better husband, to be 733 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: better a person in the community. All these things matter 734 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: to guys because when you're when it, when it comes 735 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: down to it, you're playing for one another. Like I said, 736 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier, the culture good football team. 737 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: You're gonna play a lot of good football teams. They're 738 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: gonna be talented too, but there's gonna be there's only 739 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: gonna be slight, you know, little inchest here, and there 740 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: are only slight differences between winning and losing ball games. 741 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: And when you have great players that play for one another, 742 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: that care for one another genuinely, that's very difficult to 743 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: overcome four opponents. And so I think that's the culture 744 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: that people talk about that that has been created here 745 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: in Houston with Demko as a head coach. 746 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: There is a story and I don't know if we 747 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: had a chance to talk about it during the game, 748 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: but when we met with Aziz al Shire, yeah, and 749 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: when Demiko was a defensive coordinator in San Francisco, Azi 750 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: said that he has some things going on with his life, 751 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: and Demigo sat in the car with him for two hours. 752 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: Do you remember just talking life? And I remember thinking 753 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: like that's amazing because one, I know how busy coaches are, 754 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: and coaches with a young family, Like it's hard for 755 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: me to spare ten minutes to talk to a friend, 756 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: and I feel bad. And for Demigo to sit in 757 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: the car with the guy, even if he was exaggerating 758 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: and it was an hour, like that's a long time 759 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: just been on one guy, and that's just the type 760 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: of person that he is. 761 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: So that that's worth bringing up the conversation we have 762 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: with disease. I was blown away. I mean, I've met 763 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: a lot of great people. You guys are among the 764 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: greatest athletes I've ever talked to. That was riveting to 765 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: sit down with Aziz al Shire. He is a very 766 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: compelling individual. And John Harris said, when you look at 767 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 4: the mirror, do you see Tomiko Ryans? It was like 768 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: he's the Miko on the field, you know, And it's 769 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: just it's awesome to hear and and I just think 770 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: we have a lot of guys like that. You know, 771 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: Jimmy Ward has some of that, and you know they're 772 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: different people, but there's a theme that runs through a 773 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 4: lot of the guys on this football team. That's very 774 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 4: very nice. 775 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 2: I was getting back to the field. I'm very excited 776 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: to see disease. You know, that's one guy I've heard 777 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: a lot about. You know, I've seen him. I saw 778 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: him when he was in San Francisco, played and started 779 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: every game for the Titans last year, and I thought 780 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: he played well. But he said he never felt comfortable 781 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: in that scheme. So I'm like, wow, if you didn't 782 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: feel comfortable and you played the way you played for 783 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: the Titans, I can't wait to see what you do 784 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: when you're comfortable here with the Texans. But that is 785 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: one position, because there are so many talented guys, and 786 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: this is a good problem to have. I feel like 787 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: he has not been given the attention during the preseason. 788 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him play. 789 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think about all the different editions that have 790 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: happened with the team, and you say, like, asese might 791 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: be you know, the seventh or eighth guy on the 792 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: list when you're talking about just as far as marketability 793 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: and the guys that pop, like, oh, we got Stefan Diggs, 794 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 3: we got n Neil Hunter, We've got all these different 795 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: guys that have come into the building, and it's like, now, 796 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: but this guy is key, this is this is you know, 797 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 3: hard and soul of your defense, type of guy that's 798 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: been with Demko for a long time. 799 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: He took the year off. 800 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: You know, they both went, you know, they were in 801 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: San Francisco for their their starts, and then you know, 802 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, as he's went to Tennessee and Demico came here. 803 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Now they're back together again, and so. 804 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what he's able to do in 805 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: this scheme and leading, leading the guys, and how he 806 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: rubs off on some of the younger players that are 807 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 3: going to be playing on the defense for for years 808 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: to come. 809 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch, all right. So 810 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: a couple of things that I wanted to get your 811 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: thoughts on, gentlemen. Pe Tree at the nickel, you know, 812 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: these things that we've been seeing in training camp. Now 813 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 4: it's go time, right, So we're gonna see how this 814 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: works out. Pe Tree playing a lot of nickel. We 815 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 4: assume that's gonna be the case. Maybe they change it 816 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 4: going in, but I think that's gonna be their guy there, 817 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 4: and they'll go with Eric Murray and Jimmy Ward at 818 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 4: safety in all likelihood, because that's what they were doing 819 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: with the first team reps. You're starting lasseter rookie at 820 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 4: one of the corner spots. We know Stingley's excellent, but 821 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna see all this fleshed out. What do you 822 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 4: make at the defense end as you look at the lineup? 823 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 4: Possibly what we think it's gonna be when they play 824 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 4: India on Sunday. 825 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm excited, but you brought up Jalen Petrie. I'll 826 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: tell you what I'm excited about. With Jalen Petrie. I'm 827 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: so excited, I'm knocking things all over the desk. He's 828 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: a football player. And you might say, well, everybody on 829 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: the team's a football player. That's true, but he's one 830 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: of those guys. You know what, Okay, if the coverage 831 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: isn't working like it was his rookie year, let's just 832 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: move him closer to the line, and he's gonna make plays. 833 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: And we saw that like when he's close to the 834 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, he has a linebacker mentality. And if 835 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: you have a creative defensive mind and you understand Petrie's strengths, 836 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: he could be valuable. It's not like he's gonna be 837 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: a guy like, oh, we can only use him here, 838 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: but he's a versatile player, he's physical, and I like 839 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: that there's a coaching staff that hasn't given up on them, 840 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: but they thought to themselves, oh, you know what, let's 841 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: move them around and really utilize what he can do. 842 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 3: I tell you what I do like the fact of 843 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: who the Texans defense has been practicing against each and 844 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: every day. When they're practicing against Nico Collins and against 845 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs and practicing against Tank Dell. All these guys 846 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 3: are matchup problems for other teams, all other thirty one 847 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL, And so those are the guys 848 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: that they're seeing day in and day out. And then 849 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: when you practice with the Rams, you know, now you're 850 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: seeing Pooka Nakool, You're seeing Cooper Cup. You're seeing a 851 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 3: lot of really high end, elite players at those skills positions. 852 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: So it's not going to be a shock when they, 853 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: you know, the coach roll out there out of Dia 854 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 3: Mitchell and Michael Pittman and Jonathan Taylor, like these are guys. 855 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: They've seen guys of that caliber each and every day 856 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 3: and practicing. So you always want to make it to 857 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: where the games are much easier than the actual practices. 858 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 3: You want the practices to be a lot harder in 859 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: the game. Just so the Iron has been strapping an 860 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: armed each and every day throughout this training campus. So 861 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully that pays pays dividends on Sunday against 862 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 3: the Colts. 863 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: All right, quick time out. This is Texans All Access 864 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: Players Edition. Leave it right here, Welcome in, Welcome back 865 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: Texans All Access the Player's Edition. 866 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: I am Indy Kalu. 867 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: He is Mark Vandermer Wade Smith, the player player sitting 868 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: in with us. Always appreciate y'all listening and definitely appreciate 869 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: our guests for getting in with us. 870 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. 871 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: You know what, I want to step away from football 872 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: real quick, and I'm going to put the guy to 873 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: my right on the spot. Vander Kid moved to Austin. 874 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: Oh he did, Yeah, vandermir dropped him off. Very interesting 875 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: tears question. 876 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: Look, it hit me several times in the last few months, 877 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 4: you know, graduation, just knowing that, oh, this might be 878 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 4: the last ping pong. We have these epic ping pong battles, 879 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: you know, and he's eighteen. Now you beat men. It's 880 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 4: not fun, and you know, it's just so much fun 881 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 4: to be around him, and John Lopez says it best. 882 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 4: You know, what's the best age? Every age, and you 883 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: know they get older, but you enjoy them in different ways. 884 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 4: But leaving home and I know you've been through this, 885 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 4: and you've both been through this. Yeah, it's I've never 886 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 4: been through it, you know. And I'm a late bloomer 887 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 4: as a dad, you know, a little older as a dad. 888 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: But that is a gut punch man dropping them off 889 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 4: and that whole thing. 890 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: Now. 891 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 4: I didn't get to drop him off the first time 892 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 4: last week as I had the final preseason game against 893 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 4: the Rams. That was that day you get to move 894 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: in between eight and nine am. Well, I went this 895 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 4: past Labor Day and we saw the Longhorns play Colorado State. 896 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: So it was just he and I went to the 897 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 4: game and that was cool, and it was just great 898 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 4: to see him. You know, he's in college and I've 899 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 4: never really been a long horned sports fan, but now 900 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 4: he is. So it's like, Okay, I'm longhorned dad. Let's 901 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 4: let's go for it. But it's very impressive, you know 902 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 4: what they have there and everything. It's very cool. So 903 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 4: thanks for bringing it up. He's he's at Macomb School 904 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 4: of Business. Doing great so far, but it's early. You know, 905 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 4: he's got to hunker down here. 906 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: Oh he'll be fine with you, was his father. He 907 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: will be fine. Man. 908 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: I would say this is very impressive. We talked to 909 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 2: him during the production meeting, and I'm always impressed with 910 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: teenagers who can actually speak to adults. Yeah, and carry 911 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 2: a conversation. He definitely could do that. Yeah, man, I'm 912 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: be honest with you. 913 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 3: It makes me feel kind of old man because vander 914 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 3: Kidd being a freshman in college now, it's like wow, 915 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 3: like I really remember him being around all the time 916 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 3: back in my time here with the Texans, and and 917 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: now he's he's in college. It's crazy, but that's a 918 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 3: that's a cool feeling to be able to drop your 919 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 3: kid off and know that, you know, all the stuff 920 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 3: that that they've been able to do over the you know, 921 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: over their scholastic career, high school, middle school, whatever that 922 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: they've gone through, it's paid off. And now they're at 923 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: their higher educational situation now. And you know, Indy's got 924 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 3: a got a son at Baylor and a daughter in 925 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: school now too, and and now vander Kidd is at Texas, 926 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: and I have a daughter Mississippi State, so it's definitely 927 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 3: a good point and you're like, man, okay, I couldn't 928 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: see my baby for like a few months, Like this 929 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: is going to be a few months. But then when 930 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: they come back, it's a good feeling. 931 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: You know. 932 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 3: Then they come back during those breaks, and those breaks 933 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: come a lot faster than you thought that they would 934 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: come when you drop them off, because time goes by fast. 935 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: We all have other kids and so that that helps 936 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 3: the time kind of go by faster to but you 937 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 3: really appreciate it when they are around after they've been gone, 938 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: so it's really cool and they start aging and maturing 939 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 3: and you kind of look at them more of it's like, hey, 940 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: this is like this is a grown adult that is 941 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 3: really handling their business and doing cool things. So it's 942 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 3: a fun stage in life. 943 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 4: I would say, I feel like I've texted with him 944 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 4: more now than we were in the previous few months. 945 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 4: Because once they get a car, yeah, access to a car, 946 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 4: you feel like they've left already. You know, you don't 947 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 4: see that much. And he's got a girlfriend, he's out 948 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 4: all the time, and he doesn't stay out. Lady's a 949 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 4: good kid, you know. He handles his life pretty well. 950 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: But now we're going back and forth and stuff because 951 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 4: he ask all these questions. So it's kind of cool. 952 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: It's fun. 953 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 4: Thanks for bringing that up, Indian. 954 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: No, No, for sure. 955 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: I mean we're all dads here and I it hit home, yes, 956 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry last week when I saw you with 957 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 2: him and we were talking about you dropping him up. 958 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 4: I want to ask both of you guys a question though, 959 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 4: before we get off this dad thing. In a way 960 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 4: sort of because Dimigo Ryans at his introductory press conference 961 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 4: talked about, Hey, I want the guys to be better men, fathers, husbands, 962 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. He said it again in a 963 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 4: recent press conference, and it's a big deal with him, 964 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 4: and I really feel like, look, I've heard talk like 965 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 4: that before, and I know we've had good coaches here 966 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 4: and there are great coaches all around the league and everything, 967 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 4: but there's just something about him that's really special that way. 968 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 4: And you guys played with him, but how do you 969 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 4: see it the effect that he has on these young 970 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: men who are playing for him right now. 971 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: For me, it's a little different because I get a 972 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 2: chance to talk to the guys, you know, during production 973 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: meetings and just podcasts and they all bring up something 974 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: he said or he did, or the way he lives 975 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: his life and how it rubs off on them. And 976 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: that's just how he was even as a guy. I 977 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 2: believe I'm ten years older than him when when we 978 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: played together and I was in the latter part of 979 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: my career and he was a rookie, second year player, 980 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: and he just had this way about him like I 981 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: would come in early because I needed early treatment just 982 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 2: to be able to practice, and he would be the 983 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: first one. This isn't made up for the sake of 984 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 2: the podcast. He would always be the first one in 985 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 2: the locker room excuse me reading the Bible. And I 986 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 2: was all, okay, why do you do it at this time? 987 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 2: And he said, well, I have to get it in 988 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: now because you know, once the day gets started, it 989 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 2: gets harder. And he was so dedicated to that, and 990 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: you knew that he wasn't just a special player. He 991 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: wasn't just a special linebacker. You know, this is a 992 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: special dude. And that's how he lived his life. So 993 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: I think, not only is it affecting them as football 994 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: players on the field, I get the sense that a 995 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: lot of guys that are playing for him also just 996 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 2: want to be better men because they see the benefit 997 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: of being a good man. 998 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 999 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it just shows that he's he's a genuine person, 1000 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 3: and he genuinely cares about his guys and what they 1001 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 3: strive to become, whether it's on the field or off 1002 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 3: the field. I think, you know a lot of times 1003 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 3: people can pay lip service to that sort of thing, 1004 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 3: but he lives it. He walks that that way as well. 1005 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 3: And so that that translates to the to the guys. 1006 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 3: And so you want to play for and you want 1007 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 3: to have you want to put your best foot forward 1008 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 3: for somebody that you know genuinely cares about you as 1009 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 3: a person as opposed to just as a player, Like 1010 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: as opposed to what can you do for me? It's like, 1011 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 3: hey man, what what can I do for you? To 1012 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: help you become a better father, become a better husband, 1013 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 3: to be better person in the community. All these things 1014 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 3: matter to guys because when you're when it, when it 1015 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 3: comes down to it, you're playing for one another. Like 1016 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 3: I said, we talked about it earlier, the culture good 1017 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 3: football team. You're gonna play a lot of good football teams. 1018 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: They're gonna be talented too. But there's gonna to be 1019 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 3: there's only going to be slight, you know, little inches here, 1020 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 3: and there are only slight differences between winning and losing 1021 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: ball games. And when you have great players that play 1022 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 3: for one another, that care for one another genuinely, that's 1023 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 3: very difficult to overcome four opponents. And so I think 1024 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 3: that's the culture that people talk about that has been 1025 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 3: created here in Houston with Demiko as a head coach. 1026 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: There is a story and I don't know if we 1027 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: had a chance to talk about it during the game, 1028 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 2: but when we met with Aziz all Shire, yeah, and 1029 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: when Demiko was a defensive coordinator in San Francisco, Azie 1030 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: said that he has some things going on with his 1031 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 2: life and Demigo sat in the car with him for 1032 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 2: two hours. Do you remember, just talking life. And I 1033 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 2: remember thinking like, that's amazing, because one, I know how 1034 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 2: busy coaches are, and coaches with a young family, like 1035 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: it's hard for me to spare ten minutes to talk 1036 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: to a friend, and I feel bad, Yeah, for Demigo 1037 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: to sit in the car with the guy, even if 1038 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: he was exaggerating and it was an hour, that's a 1039 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: long time just been on one guy, and that's just 1040 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: the type of person that he. 1041 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 4: Is, so that that's worth bringing up the conversation we 1042 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 4: have with disease. I was blown away. I mean, I've 1043 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 4: met a lot of great people. You guys are among 1044 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 4: the greatest athletes I've ever talked to. That was riveting 1045 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 4: to sit down with a z's al Shire. He is 1046 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 4: a very compelling individual. And John Harrison. When you look 1047 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 4: at the mirror, do you see Tomiko Ryans? It was 1048 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 4: like he's Demico on the field, you know, and it's 1049 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 4: just it's awesome to hear and and I just think 1050 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 4: we have a lot of guys like that. You know, 1051 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 4: Jimmy Ward has some of that, and you know they're 1052 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 4: different people, but there's a theme that runs through a 1053 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 4: lot of the guys on this football team. That's very, 1054 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,919 Speaker 4: very nice. 1055 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 2: I was getting back to the field. I'm very excited 1056 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 2: to see Azas. You know, that's one guy I've heard 1057 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: a lot about. You know, I've seen him. I saw 1058 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: him when he was in San Francisco, played and started 1059 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: every game for the Titans last year, and I thought 1060 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: he played well, but he said he never felt comfortable 1061 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: in that scheme. Like, wow, if you didn't feel comfortable 1062 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 2: and you played the way you played for the Titans. 1063 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you do when you're 1064 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: comfortable here with the Texans. But that is one position 1065 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 2: because there are so many talented guys, and this is 1066 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 2: a good problem to have. I feel like he has 1067 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 2: not been given the attention during the preseason. I can't 1068 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: wait to see him play. 1069 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think about all the different editions that have 1070 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 3: happened with the team, and you say, you like, Disease 1071 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: might be you know, the seventh or eighth guy on 1072 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 3: the list when you're talking about just as far as 1073 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: marketability and the guys that pop, like, oh, we got 1074 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, We've got the Neil Hunter, we got all 1075 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 3: these different guys that have come into the building, and 1076 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 3: it's like, now that this guy is key, this is 1077 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 3: this is you know, hard and soul of your defense 1078 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 3: type of guy that's been with Demko for a long time. 1079 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: He took the year off. 1080 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 3: You know, they both went, you know, they were in 1081 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 3: San Francisco for their their starts and then you know, 1082 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 3: you know, as he's went to Tennessee and Demico came here. 1083 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 3: Now they're back together again. 1084 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: And so. 1085 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what he's able to do in 1086 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 3: this game and leading leading the guys, and how he 1087 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 3: rubs off on some of the younger players that are 1088 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: going to be playing on the defense for years to come. 1089 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch, all right. So 1090 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 4: a couple of things that I wanted to get your 1091 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 4: thoughts on, gentlemen. Petrie at the nickel, you know these 1092 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 4: things that we've been seeing in training camp. Now it's 1093 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: go time, right, So we're gonna see how this works out. 1094 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 4: Pe Tree playing a lot of nickel. We assume that's 1095 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 4: going to be the case. Maybe they change it going in, 1096 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: but I think that's gonna be their guy there, and 1097 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 4: they'll go with Eric Murray and Jimmy Ward at safety 1098 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 4: in all likelihood because that's what they were doing with 1099 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 4: the first team reps. You're starting Lasseter rookie at one 1100 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 4: of the corner spots. We know Stingley's excellent, but we're 1101 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 4: gonna see all this fleshed out. What do you make 1102 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 4: of the defense end as you look at the lineup 1103 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 4: possibly what we think it's going to be when they 1104 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 4: play India on Sunday. 1105 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm excited, but you brought up Jalen Petrie. I'll 1106 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: tell you what I'm excited about with Jalen Petrie. I'm 1107 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 2: so excited I'm knocking things all over the desk. He's 1108 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: a football player. You might say, well, everybody on the 1109 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: team's a football player. That's true, but he's one of 1110 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 2: those guys. You know what, Okay, if the coverage isn't 1111 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: working like it was his rookie year, let's just move 1112 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 2: him closer to the line, and he's going to make plays. 1113 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 2: And we saw that, like when he's close to the 1114 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, he has a linebacker mentality. And if 1115 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: you have a creative defensive mind and you understand petrie strengths, 1116 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 2: he could be valuable. It's not like he's going to 1117 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 2: be a guy like, oh, we can only use him here. 1118 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: But he's a versatile player. He's physical, and I like that. 1119 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: There's a coaching staff that hasn't given up on him, 1120 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 2: but they thought to themselves, oh, you know what, let's 1121 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: move him around and really utilize what he can do. 1122 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I do like the fact of 1123 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 3: who the Texans defense has been practicing against each and 1124 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 3: every day. When they're practicing against Nico Collins, and against 1125 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs and practicing against Tank Dell. All these guys 1126 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 3: are matchup problems for other teams, all other thirty one 1127 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL, And so those are the guys 1128 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 3: that they're seeing day in and day out. And then 1129 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: when you practice with the Rams, you know, now you're 1130 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: seeing Pooka Nakool, You're seeing Cooper Cup. You're seeing a 1131 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 3: lot of really high end elite players at those skills positions. 1132 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 3: So it's not going to be a shock when they, 1133 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 3: you know, the Coats roll out there out of Dia 1134 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 3: Mitchell and Michael Pittman and and Jonathan Taylor, like these 1135 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 3: are guys. They've seen guys of that caliber each and 1136 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: every day in practicing. So you always want to make 1137 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 3: it to where the games are much easier than the 1138 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 3: actual practices. You want the practices to be a lot 1139 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 3: harder than the games. And so the iron has been 1140 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: strapping in the arms each and every day throughout this 1141 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 3: training campus. So you know, hopefully that pay pays dividends 1142 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 3: on Sunday against the Colts. 1143 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: All right, quick time out, this is Texans All Access players. Addition, 1144 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: leave it right here