WEBVTT - Steve's Truth 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.720 is cut to it. Good do it, Good do good. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.520 They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked. Let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.800 am about it, then we're about to let you know. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:42.000 It's all. Yeah, it's gonna be hard for you to 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.640 talk with Mike all the way over on out the 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.800 side of the table. What's going on, man, How are 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.480 you feeling? How are you feeling? I'm good, good, good 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.560 good man. Back to it, cut to a podcast Agent 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.640 eighty nine. Smithy, my brother, you're feeling good. I think so, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.280 think so. Yeah, I got I gotta checked my box. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.640 I checked once a year. And I'll let you know. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:12.440 What's that box? My care box. However you gotta check it. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.080 However you got to get that off your list. Let's 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.600 do it, man, But man, let's dive right into it. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.760 Um Man, I'm excited. There's a lot of reasons I 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:22.720 know that you want to start this podcast. And we 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.240 started this podcast together and one of them that I 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.080 think is really cool is that you've always had this 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.920 passion and when you and when you talk to me 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.920 and when you gave me your vision, the vision was 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.400 you wanted to let athletes and entertainers tell their own 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.080 narratives and tell their own troops. So, man, I'm why 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.480 is that important to you? Why is that important to you? 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.560 When you look at it? When you look at an article, UM, say, 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.240 let's just say a beat writer and I think it's 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.160 I think it's fifty fifty. When you look at the 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:58.080 beat writer, you'll say that be right, represents um, you know, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.640 he's the middleman and or middle woman from that player 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.440 or that team that they have been assigned to and 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.520 the fans to the public, to the public or folk. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.080 You know, not all fans. You know that there's some 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.880 people that like a team but don't like an individual 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:24.359 where and there be times where the person who's writing 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.640 an article they only really see that individual from open 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.880 locker room, and in that open locker room, you see 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.640 that individual and you get whatever that individual is that day. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.520 And so they report that not all in every beat 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:50.760 writer's friends, and they also the athlete only gives that 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.480 beat writer what they want to be writer to see. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.200 So sometimes the beat writer or the person who writes 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.360 the article, I don't want to say misrepresents, but I 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.480 don't think it is as clear the relationship that the 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.680 athlete and the and and the journalists have. That's some journalists, man, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.480 I have great relationships or like thereof. And it's not 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.799 because I disliked them. It's just you don't I met him, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.120 they wrote an article, they asked me a question about somebody, 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.080 and then they move on or we move on and 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.600 go our several ways. But yet that doesn't mean that 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.040 I have a good sense of that individual, just like 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.760 I don't believe they have a good sense of me. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.520 And the reason I say that is I'm a people 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.800 watcher and I and I watch people, and I can 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.680 I watch body language, and I cannot get a sense 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.920 of an individual. I don't think it's fair for me 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.200 to say, well, I got a sense of an individual. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.840 I asked them ten questions and I got ten short answers, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:00.600 and I I know that person's I know what they're thinking, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.360 I know who they are as a as a man 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.200 or a woman. I know their makeup. I don't believe 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.960 that's accurate, and so sometimes people are writing articles or 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:14.880 journalist are writing articles with a little bit of with 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:22.800 a little bit of uh of authenticity or credibility that well, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.400 I'm writing this article about Exhibit A, and I've been 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.800 around him well enough I know exactly what he's thinking. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.640 I don't think that's a fair statement. I don't think 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.600 that's even accurate. But they they don't present it that way, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.039 but they shure write articles as if they know exactly 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.360 what's going on in that person. Hell, sometimes I don't 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.760 even know what's going on in myself, so I don't 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.880 know how an individual knows exactly. I mean, I I 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:55.640 just think it's I think it's unfair, um unfair stigma 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:01.160 that some journalists have. As as an athlete, Yeah, how 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.200 does how does that make you feel? Yeah, sometimes it's 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.760 sometimes I just kind of like out to be misrepresented. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.919 I think it. I think when you first do it, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:15.680 you get irritated. I think over time, you just it's 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.480 just kind of part of it. And I and I 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.760 I think that's sad that someone can write an article 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.920 without you know, not knowing the person or having that 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.880 much understanding of that individual, but yet writing in depth 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:37.920 article about someone and somebody somebody's listening to say, well, 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:43.279 that's not fair. Listen, I'm not saying it's fair. I 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.200 just think it's interesting that a person can write an 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.000 article in depth article about someone and they met them 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.320 for five minutes or ten minutes out the day, and 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.080 then they watch film with a lot of times no audio, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.520 and they go, you know what, this is how this 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.760 person is. It's just is their favorite color, this is 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.960 what they like. Blah blah blah blah. I just I 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.120 don't I don't think it's I just I just think 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:15.440 it's interesting, unique, misleading. Yeah, and and I know that's 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.400 also a reason why you decided creating this platform, us 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.600 having this this this podcast to not ask those kind 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.880 of got your questions to get an athlete in that 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:29.560 kind of situation to clickbait. For sure. One thing I 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.760 love is that we get behind or inside of the 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.200 jersey of an individual. And for you, I want to 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.280 take a little time. I know you well beyond your jersey, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.240 well beyond you know ah and eighty nine and who 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.200 you were on the field. I want to make sure 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.440 our listeners get the same thing. Just in this short 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.640 time of podcasts, and we were literally just talking about it. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.600 You know, we're fancy now, so we have pre production 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.680 meetings and and we get a chance to you know, 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.400 we got this. We gotta deal with our hearts, so 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.440 we have things structured in a way. We were just 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.680 talking about how social media this day is quick to 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.280 hyper sensationalize a lot of stuff anything. You know, you 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:12.440 can realize how narratives flip, they changed, they're stretched. It's 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:17.760 very hard to write an article characters, but yet they 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.440 do it all the time. They get crashed shorten to 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.920 that whatever you say gets shortened to just a hunter 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.440 forty character. You wonder why the context gets missed, or 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.480 you wonder why that athlete doesn't want to talk to 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:34.920 those individuals. Because now we're breaking news on social media, right, Well, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:40.920 my cousin Pookie heard that Leroy told James and such 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.280 and such as on the team anymore, and we break 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.680 that news, right and that now that person is called 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.240 an insider and they have a source, even though their 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.680 source is a cousin who knows someone who worked at 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.880 the stadium, who does who works at the parking lot daily? Right, 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.440 So because of those you know, different narratives, you know, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.080 different just have have lately come up a lot of 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:07.960 stories from your time playing in Carolina with Cam Newton. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.200 Things have resurfaced. What would you like to clear up 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:15.320 on the relationship with with Cam. I don't think it's 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.000 anything to clear up because I don't really believe there's 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.560 a negative relationship. I just think that the relationship is 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.920 what it is, which I mean it's it's it's not 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.440 a deep relationship. I think it's a very shallow relationship 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.720 that has nothing to do with necessarily Kim did something 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.640 wrong or right, or me did something wrong. I think 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.280 it's just kind of Both of our makeups were both tours, 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:41.200 so we're very stubborn. Um. And the makeup of my 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:46.920 horoscope right right, and then the other part is um right. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.240 I just I guess the pros and cons of being 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.200 a teammate to Steve Smith is this. Um. The pros 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.440 is I'm gonna work my butt off every single day. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.280 The con is, man, I wear my emotion on my 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.319 sleeve and on the practice field. So if we had 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.600 a bad week that week and we didn't perform, well, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.120 I'm on everybody. I'm expecting everybody to practice as hard 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.040 as men. If we don't, it's gonna be a problem, right, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.560 That isn't that? And I said that's a negative? Is 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.839 it's not that? Well? I think it's a negative because 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.840 not everybody, I mean, I got four kids, and not 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.040 not all my four kids have the same work ethic 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.320 as each other. They all vary and it all depends 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:31.400 on how are they motivated. So at times I rubbed, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.440 I brushed up against teammates the wrong way, and and 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.960 there are some teammates brushed up against me the wrong way. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.200 That that's just that's called a that's called a job. Right. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:48.079 Do you do you think that that wears on players orgy? Oh? Yeah, definitely, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.480 because it's not every Not everybody wants to be on 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.160 Steve's page. Steve don't want to be on everybody's page either. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.960 It all varies. Mm hmm. What what do you What 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.000 do you think are the pros and cons of being 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:12.360 a teammate of Steve Smith? Um? I always I've always 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.000 been un Let's do the bad news first, Yes, yes, yes, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:21.559 so the bad news is um man, I'm you know, oh, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.640 I think the biggest I'm not I look forward. I 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:30.120 look ahead way too much. I don't live in a present. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.880 I don't work in the present um And what I 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:40.239 mean by that is great example, i can catch ten passes, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.960 have X amount of yards, and I'll be stuck on 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:50.080 the two passes I dropped, Like I mean, just just 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.360 upset of myself for those Is that a way to 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.200 trick your mind into not setting on what you achieved, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.360 is always thinking of what you can improve Because I'm 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.640 of course I did not play. I'm not a Hall 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:07.200 of Fame receiver like you are, but I know that 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.040 I do the same exact thing in my day to 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.679 day life. Like I can't settle on what I've accomplished. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.600 I'm always thinking of what's next, what do I need 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.120 to It's my way of staying humble. I go even deeper. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:22.559 I'm never satisfied and always always piste off. Yeah, right, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.880 every single day when I used to come to work, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:30.120 always thinking ahead, all thinking ahead to the point of where, bro, 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.680 we just won a game, so we could have played better. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:39.160 That's how I've always been, and even you know, even 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.880 when I was a little kid, you know, and I 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.520 don't necessarily know why, but that's just that's just kind 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:51.120 of always better. Yeah, what's your relationship with formal guys teammates? Teammates. Man, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.480 I'm probably wanted to. It's I'm probably one of the 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.079 one of the guys. I mean, you got to think 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.640 about over sixteen years, fifty three teammates, right, I don't 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.920 even know that number. But that's a lot of health teammates. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:04.960 I don't have all those people on my phone. You 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.240 don't agree with everyone. You know, some people like rant, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.319 some people like blue cheese. Right there. There's there's things 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.920 about teammates that I didn't like. And I know there's 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:19.280 things about myself towards my former teammates that that didn't 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:24.280 they didn't like. So, you know, there's guys I've talked 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:29.439 to that neither. You know, various times we've changed numbers. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.319 I've changed numbers. Whereas it's reasons why, and it isn't 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.959 I dislike someone and someone dislikes me someone. Sometimes it's 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.600 just the lack of connection, you know. I'm I'm bad 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.800 at following through and follow up. I mean, I'll text 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:47.720 a guy great example I had. I had um. I 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.520 played with a guy named Wallace right for for two years. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.240 I had a buddy over at the house who was 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.559 roommates with Wallace in college. I haven't talked to Wallace 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:02.400 and seven and a half eight years Bro just connected, uh, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:08.960 probably two weeks ago, just by accident because he want 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.839 his boy Mike, who's a friend of mine and our 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.640 wives are friends and that's how we connected. Like so 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.160 you know, I'm bad at Then there's guys that you know, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.640 I play in the Baltimore with I still talk to 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.440 but then I don't really talk to him. Got their 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.760 number on my phone, I don't literally talk to them 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.160 until I travel and see him. And you know, it's 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.120 not flower relationships, right, Like, it's it's people that you. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.800 I think that's with anybody, right, Like there's people who 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.000 you are, who's in your circle, right even if your 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.200 circle is a dot. But because that's why I'm I'm 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.240 on it right now, like man a dot right now? 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.800 You you and you and my dot brother. But appreciate that, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.800 but I'm glad I get your comfort. But um, but 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.040 definitely think that's just the EBB and Flower relationship, right, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.680 is that you've got people that you're close with, and 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.400 then you've got people who maybe you don't have but 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.559 say to day contact, but when you catch up, it's 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.280 like yesterday. Yeah. But the other thing too is um 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.839 and I've always been a loner though, so it's not 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.199 all It's not even one of those like even guys 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.680 that I text, man like, I'm really cool with Stewart. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.560 Me and Stewart actually have gone Stewart Jonathan Stewart. Me 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.920 and Jon Stewart actually have the same financial guy, bro 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:26.200 men Stewy have the same financial guy in this whole pandemic. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:32.520 We've text probably five times. Really, yes, and we have 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.400 the same final We're in the same investments. And the 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.440 only reason I think I text on one time it's 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.960 like Dann, I reached out the Stewart, right, I mean, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.520 real talk, it is how crazy it is. I'm a 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:52.160 landlord of a Starbucks. Men Stewart are the landlords of 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.760 this Starbucks. We rarely talk as the as the two landlords, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:02.320 as the two landlords own we rarely talk. I'll texting, Hey, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.000 we gotta do the taxes. He like, cool, that's it. Yeah, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.000 it sounds crazy me and you know, but that's just 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.360 kind of that's the basis. But I don't sit there 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.160 and go and talk to me. But then we'll go 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.000 play golf with each other, like last summer. Man, we 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.960 need to do this more often. We're going to Angola. Yeah, man, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.760 we need to do this again. Don't do it right 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.240 right right? So so switching gears a little bit. You know, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:33.080 we we talked about really utilizing this time for your 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:38.960 truth and to really allow you, like like alluded to before, 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:45.240 now's your turn. It's getting inside the jersey being able 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.480 to really for our listeners to clean a better understanding you. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.440 So I'm gonna cut straight to it with this question. Ultimately, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.760 why were you released from the Panthers and would you 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.320 give me the truth that since a lot of these 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.960 narratives to start to come back, I mean, the narratives 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.240 come back up. Here's what happened. I went on the 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:10.120 co workers UM podcast and he asked me some questions 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:16.720 and I basically, um, I really tried not to as 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:21.720 an analyst talk about former teammates just because, man, I 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.560 just when I watched ball, when I was when I 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.320 was in the cafeteri and I was in the locker room, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.880 I hated watching guys throwing the other guy, especially former teammates. Man, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.640 if you, if you, if you're a quarterback making whatever 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.440 you're doing, especially as a wide receiver, man, I'm I'm 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.920 I'm I'm just gonna tell the truth, Like if you 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.800 ain't a very good quarterback, you make an X amount 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.280 of dollars because the quarterbacks get all the glory and 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.280 they get to place all the blame, right, And so 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.600 I've always though, I've always seen that, like you know, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:56.160 watching a guy throwing throwing, watching a receiver get thrown 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.920 into a slant for a heada he dropped the ball, 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.320 and say, oh, he gotta he gotta catch that man 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:06.480 that quarterbacks defense and no he should, yeah, instead of 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:11.840 putting him in concussion protocol. But um, so I was 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.560 on the you know, on this podcast, and he asked 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.440 me some questions about Cam and say, you know Cam 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.640 the best I'm trying to figure out Cam was here. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.359 I was, I was. I played with Cam three years. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.240 Um what I was three years? So Cam has been here, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:34.440 was with the Carolina Panthers eight to nine years. However, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.000 when something comes up, everybody comes to Steve as if 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.600 like I'm the Cam whisper right there. Oh, let's ask Steve. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:47.360 Like I got a request through the Toronto radio station. Hey, 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.360 we want to ask you about Canon going to New 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.080 England Patriots, or we want to ask you Cam Newton 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.520 about being released from the Panthers. I wasn't in that 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.679 locker room. I don't know, and if I do know, 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:03.520 I'm not telling because here's what I don't do. I 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:08.639 don't believe when I've been around teammates over sixteen years, 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:13.520 fifty three men. Every year, you see and know things 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:19.680 about guys. There there attributes and then also some things 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.760 they do that you go, I don't agree with that. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.440 I don't talk about that, and I also expect them 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.880 not to talk about my stuff. So I tried very 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:36.200 I'm very diligent in making sure. Here's the fact. One 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.960 time I had to talk about Luke kicklely Um because 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.560 he did something for the network. I texted Luke Keicklely 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.399 and asked him was it cool that I talk about 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.720 him in this manner? And I told my producers, Hey, 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.640 let me check with Luke first, And when Luke got 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.120 back to me, he said, man, yeah, you cool with that. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.480 I'm cool with that, And that's when I said or something. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.040 I tried not to talk about anybody, especially former teammates, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:11.320 good bad, without talking about talking to them directly, and 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.600 so I don't. I didn't text Cam, so I tried 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.800 not to really same thing other than letting his play 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.920 speak for himself, which is to do this baller right. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.159 But people have believed that I disliked him, that I 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:31.000 hate Cam. I don't hate Cam. He's probably he is 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.440 one of the most athletic quarterbacks I have ever played with. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:40.080 He's a quarterback that we had some good times. If 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.760 we had some bad times, meaning when you're losing, that's 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.679 bad times, right. I've never seen heard somebody say, man, 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.640 that was the best Ask what when we ever received? 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:53.240 That just doesn't happen. So you know, I had a 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:59.679 great our RelA. My relationship with Cam could be a 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.800 lot at her. But I just don't really reach out. 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.600 And maybe because I'm just a weirdo like that, but 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:10.600 I don't reach out to the Angelo Williams. I don't 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.560 reach out. I mean, there's a number of guys that 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.359 I play with. The teammate that I talked to the 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.720 most out of all my years are playing in the 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:26.040 National Football League. There's one guy, Jordan Gross. I played 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:30.480 in college with Jordan Gross, and even in that we 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:35.600 made text once a month. So you're you're you're saying 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.040 you're just not always the guy who is just always 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:40.479 let me check in, Let me check in now that 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.800 that's a bad and I get that, right, And I 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.800 think probably all of us can can say that that 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.679 we probably do that to a point where it's like, man, 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.159 I should have should call my mom, right could I 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.680 could have talked to my dad like, And I'm telling 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:57.080 you right, like, I'm guilty of charge. We have to 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.520 take a break. And more than anything, we got some bills. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:07.960 I mean for some reason, why do you think that 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.840 your name always gets attached to two? Because I think 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.600 because of you know, obviously I'm chilling TV. I think 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.199 people try to utilize my bluntness as a weapon against me. 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:23.400 And then also too, it's called a uh self inflicted wound, right, 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.680 And so you want to go down to chronological order. 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.840 Here's what happened, I really believe on my exit. So 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.240 let's just start all over. Let's start from the beginning. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.040 Give me the truth, give me your truth, my truth, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.119 your truth. We started owing to well, actually we started 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:42.800 on one, then on two just the thirteen season. Yes, okay, 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.920 so you're what y'all played the Food and Honors in 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:50.679 the playoffs, yeah, uh, and I had a busted up 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:56.920 knee at that, so we start owing four. We start 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:03.640 owing four, and we're leading up to it into that season. Um, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.919 Dave Gentleman as the general manager. I get a text 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:11.280 on a on a on a husband and wife trip. 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.040 Me and my wife were in New York and Dave 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.280 Gentleman is hired as a new general manager at texts 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.480 from him from a I get a call from a 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.040 New York number. I don't answer. I don't answer no 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.360 numbers that I don't know. So then he and then 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.200 he texts me, Hey this Dave Getleman. You know, love 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.800 to meet you. I said, well, I'm on vacation with 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.920 with my with my wife in New York. So, um, 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.760 I hit you back when I get back in town. 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:40.040 Several players have went up and introduced himself. I probably 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.520 went up there. I was back probably four or four 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.920 days later. I probably don't go up there toil probably 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.960 like two weeks later. I know that probably didn't vote 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.360 well with him, didn't He didn't like that. But I'm 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.919 just being myself. That was being I'm not gonna go 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.280 up there, brown nose, and I'm not gonna go up there. Hey, 0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:01.000 you're not going up the tap dance. I went up there. 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:07.080 Um like the little cocky, uh midget, I am. I 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.800 went up there and was like hit him with the head, bob, 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:16.159 what up, hey, let's talk. So we talked and he 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:20.359 he he basically gave me some things that he expected 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.560 out of me. I said, all right, cool, And he 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.119 gave me a book and I actually read the book. 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.000 He told me, I want you to read this book 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.080 is called half Time, Okay, and so it's basically the 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.159 guy who wrote Halftime actually lives here in Charlotte. So 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.080 it was really cool. Um. So he told me to 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.520 read this book, and so I kind of I caught 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.040 what he was what was the book about? The book 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.200 was about how do you want the end of your 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.679 basically the end of your career to be? So he 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.280 was I called what. I caught what he was putting 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:55.960 down basically saying, look tightened up right, And so I like, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.480 all right. So I read the book and it was 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:01.520 actually a really really good book. And the book started 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.879 off basically saying this guy who was I believe it 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:08.639 was in Texas. He was a really financially well off guy. 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.320 His son fell off I think it off in the 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.400 boat or a wave runner or something. And this guy 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:19.640 used all his money and his resources to save his son, 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.760 but it didn't save him, and so he utilized the 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:27.720 last the back half of his life really too kind 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.119 of make a difference. And so it was a really 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.680 good book. And I only read half of it because 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.960 I'm a guy who reads a book and I'll take 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.920 notes to the point of where I get it, and 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.080