1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Everybody. Big news that we're excited to share with you. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: On Friday, we are launching the Around the NFL Twitter Show. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: It's a live program that you could catch at one 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: pm Pacific, four pm Eastern, nine pm over in the UK. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: So you got a little lunch hour, uh in the 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: West coast, on the East Coast, a happy hour and 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: yet some cocktails late at night over the UK. We're 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: excited for you to check it out. 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A lot of 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: guests this week, because that's not all. He's a reporter, 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: analyst host for NFL Network. He's a Howard University graduate. 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: He always keeps it real. Do not disrespect his o 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Joe Steve Wish, Welcome back to the Round the NFL Podcast. 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: There's nothing like reading the Twitter bio page to bring 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: me in food. Don't disrespect my dough, Joe. I was like, 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: my god, is that a Napoleon Dynamite reference? Kind of 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: sort of? You know, I think it was one of 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: those things where, you know, so many people come hard 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: at me on Twitter. Sometimes I gotta make I make 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: them think it's like martial arts. So so if they 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: do confront me that, you know they're gonna have some 41 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: hands and feet coming along. Hey, But before we get started, 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, I said, sitting here in my living room. 43 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: But when I told my wife Dianne, who most of 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: you have met usually over an excessive body paid her wine, 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, you're doing it with Dan with the 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: good hair. That's right, that's he's our Becky, Becky with 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: a good hair of NFL media. She's a wonderful woman. 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: In fact, I hope to see her again. We we 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: got to see her last sing. But with the the 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: situation as it is, I never you know when are 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: we gonna see sweet day right? Hopefully hopefully miss Maybe 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: she'll crash the party, maybe she'll come in and have 53 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: a little fun right here. But uh, we're walking together soon. 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: I gotta have you guys over at the house. It's 55 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of a tear down right now. 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: Things done when this when a pandemic shruck. So I'm 57 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: navigating that with my three sons and brother in laws. 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of grown men and my poor 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: little wife here. So she is a champ. Steve Steve 60 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Weisch's life goals for many reasons, but one of them 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: being the extensive and impressive house that he purchased in 62 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles area, so we hope to get to 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: that point. Okay, it was greg, you know what. It 64 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: was all done because I've purchased other homes before, extensive 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: and impressive. I I love renting. That's my that's my 66 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: preferences to rent a home. That square footage compared to 67 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the rent makes your eyeballs fall out. I like it 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: that way. By the way, Steve, you are last time 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you were on the show Sneaky Great Bod Hall of Fame, 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Steve wisch Uh. Keeps it tight, keeps it right, great arms, 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, and what are you doing during this to 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: stay in shape? A lot of people are facing that 73 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: challenge right now that you know, you depended on the 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: gym to get your exercise and now you're trapped in 75 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: your home. Yeah, you know, it's it's crazy. You know. 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: I I in my backyard because my three sons are here. 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: So we've actually set up like a circuit training, but 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: we're back kind of the prison yard workout, man. I 79 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: mean we've got you know, we've got the push up, 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: the push up station to set up station. You know, 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: we've got a couple of bar bills, We've got you know, 82 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: a little curls and shoulder work going on, and um, 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: kind of a boxing station. So you know, we change 84 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: it up. We change it up from time to time. 85 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: You got a stationary bike that we get in there, 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: so we change it up. So is this like Rocky 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: training in the Russian wilderness ahead of the drag Go 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: fight throwing railroad ties around? And I think this is 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: more like Curtis training San Quentin. It's more like that. Well, 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: we're keeping it tight man, all right, good, keep it tight, 91 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: keep it right. Uh, Steve's on the show. We're gonna 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: spend through some news. Uh, you have some interesting insight 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: on the great to a last name pronounced how Greg 94 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: congo Violo? I mean, come on, at this point, we've 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: had him on the show. We've talked about him daily 96 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: for two months. What are we waiting for. We've called 97 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: him to exclusively. We've other than you, he said, we've 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: had him on the show. We haven't actually had him 99 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: on the show. If we had him on the show, 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I would be able to study and learn the name. 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm still just going with cliff cliffs notes 102 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: to a you got why is she here for your 103 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: Pacific Islander news? I mean, this guy is Steve in 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: the culture I know, and Steve is super plugged in 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: on the to a situation. We had UM a really 106 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: good conversation yesterday about to UH with Peter Schrager UM, 107 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: who gave us a little bit of insight into his 108 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: you know how, just how much of a coveted prospect 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: he is in the top of the first round. So 110 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I want to get to that with you, Steve a 111 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: little bit later. But why don't we begin things by 112 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: catching up on the news hit it Ricky, I was 113 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: tremendous faith to my Lord. And one thing about Tom 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Brady is is understood that he is to go for you, 115 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: to get replaced by by Tom Brady in a in 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: a city that you love so much. I guess that's 117 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: kudos to me. That's the first I heard that. That's great. 118 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite lines of the offseason. Jamis 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Winston on Fox UH and good for him, Jamis is 120 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: he's starting up some type of hotline for people to 121 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: learn more and get information the need regarding the COVID 122 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic. UM. But he was asked by the talking head, 123 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: what's it like, you know you're out of work right now, 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and tom took your job. He said, it's good us 125 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: to him that Tom Brady took his job. I don't 126 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: know what that means, but I do. I feel bad 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: for the guy. I mean, he he He certainly is 128 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: in a difficult spot right now, as we all know 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: as a football player. But I imagine he's getting asked 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: this all the time about Tom Brady and about what's 131 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: going on. Are you gonna get a job? This guy 132 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: through for five thousand yards last year and he's out 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: on the street as we approach mid April. Well, they're 134 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: linked together historically forever now, if if we consider football history, 135 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: something that will go on forever. I mean, he's always 136 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: the guy that Tom Brady unseated. But I think there's 137 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: a good argument. I don't know if it's kudos to 138 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: him that they would have moved on anyways, it's for 139 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: someone else. It's not just simply a tom Brady replaced 140 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: me thing. It's you kind of lost your job based 141 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: on the inability to keep the ball out of the 142 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: other team's hands. Oh, I see what that means. So 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: he's saying, the only way what would it what would 144 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: it take for me to lose my gig. Tom Brady 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: had to be involved, like a positive attitude, and and 146 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, if nothing else, always seems to see the 147 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: sunny side of things. When it comes to Jamis Winston, 148 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's like Tom Brady's X is thinking, Wow, 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I guess you know, if we're gonna get displaced, it's 150 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: by Giselle. You know who to them? Um? All right? 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of Tom Brady, we talked about this last week. 152 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: He agreed uh to sit down or do a phoner 153 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: with Howard Stern on the Howard Stern Show that went 154 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: down this morning. It was about a two hour wide 155 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: ranging um interview with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback. A 156 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of kind of interesting uh tidbits came out of it, 157 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: maybe no bombshells, but clearly Brady who did this interview. 158 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: I guess in a it's a bit of a statement, 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: I am no longer connected to the Patriot way. I'm 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna just talk about it. He dropped some salty language, 161 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: he was pretty honest and several of his answers, even 162 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump came up and he spoke rather candidly. I 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: thought about his relationship with Trump. But one thing and 164 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: I want to play this clip. UM. One of my 165 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: favorite kind of UM all time NFL questions is chick 166 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: under the egg? What made the Patriots dynasty? Uh? Is 167 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: it Tom Brady Bill Belichick who's truly the hero here? 168 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: And Stern asked him about that. Let's listen to I 169 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: don't think. I think it's a pretty short argument actually 170 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: that people would say that, because again, I can't do 171 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: his job and he can't do mine. Right, So the 172 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: fact that you could say, would I'd be successful without 173 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: him the same level of success, I don't believe I 174 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: would have been. But I feel the same in in 175 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: in vice versa as well. To have him allowed me 176 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: to be the best I could beat. So I'm grateful 177 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: for that. And I very much believe that he feels 178 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: the same about me, because we've expressed that to each other. 179 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: And then Bell then Stern doubled down and said, but 180 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: don't you think that it's messed up that you're not 181 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: retiring a Patriot? Do you hold that against Belichick? But Tom, 182 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: isn't there some reasonable in your part that he didn't 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: make you a Patriot for life? In other words, absolutely not, no, 184 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: because this is a part for me and I like 185 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: to experience something very different, and you know, there's things, 186 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: there's there's ways for me to grow and evolved in 187 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: a different way that I haven't had the opportunity to do. 188 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: That aren't right or wrong. That's just right for me. Steve, 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: what's your take on the whole situation here? Yeah, Look, 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: I think that's a fantastic and very honest answer with 191 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I mean, we don't know if either would 192 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: have been successful without without each other, and I like, 193 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: I think the fact that Brady said, hey, look, you 194 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: know that I've expressed that to him, and he's expressed 195 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: that to me. We're gonna find out. Um, you know, 196 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: it's you know, I think it's a little bit more 197 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: unfair to Tom Brady that he didn't get a chance 198 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: to stake his claim when he was thirty five, so 199 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: to speak, to see if he could win without Bill Belichick, 200 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: and he's got to do it when he's forty three 201 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: with a franchise that to me right now is at 202 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: best second best in the NFC South behind the Saints. Um. 203 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean, I think that's 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of how it works. I mean, who knows 205 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: that the Patriots are going to be a successful I 206 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: think the Bills are the best team in the a 207 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: f C going into the season, but who knows. If 208 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Belichick can coach up some of these other guys, that's fine, 209 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: but you gotta have the quarterback, and if you're going 210 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: with Jared Stidham, you know to be your guy. I 211 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: don't think in the short term that's gonna be, you know, 212 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: to be the answer. Maybe maybe Jamis Winston goes and 213 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: replaces Tom Brady and then we'll say kudos to him 214 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: as well. Again his his Brady's answer to the chicken 215 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: or egg question was maybe my favorite answer he's ever given. 216 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: I don't get the obsession with this topic. There's not 217 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: an answer. There's never going to be an answer. You 218 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: might think you're going to get an answer on what 219 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: an age quarterback does in Tampa Bay, but they are 220 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: inextricably lengked and there is no need for us to 221 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: try to tear apart and dissect who's more responsible for 222 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: their success. I just don't get it, and thank you 223 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Tom for putting it that way. I think it's part 224 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I think it's sports though West. I think it's just 225 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: fun to debate things like that. And right, but there's 226 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: no answer. Well, I think that's what makes part of 227 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: it fun for a lot of people, and myself included 228 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: just this idea of is that was this truly the 229 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: all time perfect storm of the greatest coach ever and 230 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: the greatest Why not? Why not settle on that as 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the answer? Like why do I know that? Like sports 232 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: writers in general and sports fans like, if it's not simple, 233 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: they don't want it, they don't want to tackle it, 234 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: Like issues are complex, there's a lot of factors that 235 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: go into it. Why can't that be the answer? Well 236 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: marks the same way with the jfk assassination, and he 237 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to accept that Lee Harvey Oswald was the 238 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: lone gunman. He needs it to be more, he needs 239 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: it to be more complicated. But maybe you're right West, 240 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the simplest Well, that is a that 241 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: is a an unbelievable aside from Dan there, and it's 242 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: not just me, it's the large the majority of the 243 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: country that's looked into that for more than five minutes. 244 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: But I will say this about Tom Brady that I 245 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: think that this this was Tom Brady at his most honest, 246 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: and I totally accept his answer, Um, if you listen 247 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: to the rest of what he discussed about his life 248 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: and the way he went through, UM, some of the 249 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: marital issues he had with Giselle, because it's you know, 250 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: it's great to want to marry Tom Brady, the successful quarterback, 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: but then part of that is you lose the man 252 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: to the NFL for a huge chunk of the year 253 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: every year, and and the weight that it uh, the 254 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: toll that it took on their marriage. I just thought 255 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: that Brady Bean is open and honest about that and 256 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: his relationship with Bill. I've waited for this version of 257 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady for a long time. He's still tad manufactured 258 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: because I think he's very cautious about what he says. 259 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: But you never would have gotten this interview three months ago, 260 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and he sounds like a man reflecting back on the 261 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: whole Patriots experience and appreciating it. I don't think that. 262 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: I just don't think there is this long lasting animosity 263 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: against anyone there at this point. Let's move. It was 264 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: fun though, it was a good it was a good interview. 265 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: I think one little nugget, by the way, and and 266 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: Stern dropped this and maybe this passed me and the 267 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: but they talked about as Tom Brady ever been asked 268 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: to play like a major role in a movie that 269 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: he turned down uh, and noted that O. J. Simpson 270 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: was at one point the lead candidate to play the terminator, 271 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: which that that kind of stopped me in my tracks 272 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: during There are a number of major revelations, but that 273 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: one through me and I'm still considering it. He played 274 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: the terminator. Well, that's another Okay, we don't need to 275 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: go down that path, but fair enough so we've hit 276 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: JFK and O J. So far in today's episode. Um, 277 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: somewhere it's the rule of threes. I can hear the 278 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: disappointment in your voice, Dan, that that Tom said he cried, um, 279 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: you know when he when he last spoke with Kraft 280 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: and with Belichick, that it was a tearful goodbye. That 281 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: that considering how close they are to the divorce it 282 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: I am kind of surprised how um, as Mark said, 283 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: sort of, how little animosity and drama there is do 284 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: it well, I mean, we don't need to go down 285 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: the swormhole again. But just because he's saying the right 286 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: things here and taking the high road doesn't to me. 287 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: He didn't he wasn't credible. I think I think it 288 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: was obviously a very emotional time for him, and how 289 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: could it not be. But when Brady says things like 290 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: there's no there's no ugly divorce here. It was just 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: time for a fresh start and I wanted a new challenge, 292 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots kind of made that decision for him in 293 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: my mind. He said he and he knew going into 294 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the season, right, so it feels like it was on 295 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: But he said that was probably the biggest news item 296 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: was just he said he felt going into the season 297 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: it probably was going to be his last season, right. 298 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's had months to adjust to this, and 299 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: I and I and I again, I believe him on 300 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: that too. I just do I think that was a 301 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: point of debate months ago when this was, you know, 302 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: all decided. But Tom Brady's probably felt this change coming 303 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: in his life since late summer his contract to become 304 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: a free agent and to have no franchise tag attached 305 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: to it, so of course he knew this was coming. 306 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: UM moving on Hard Knocks news, and it's not good 307 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: news in my opinion. UM. For the first time, Hard 308 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Knocks is planning to supersize Feature two teams this summer, 309 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Chargers. This according to Adam Schefter. 310 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: It hasn't been officially announced, and this of course depends 311 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: on if there are training camps, which we don't know 312 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: yet considering all that's going on in the world. But 313 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: if Schefter is reporting is right, and there's no reason 314 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: to think that it's uh incorrect. He's usually pretty good 315 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: with this kind of stuff. It will be a Rams 316 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: and Chargers hard knocks. And I'm curious, Steve, you're plugged 317 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: in on the l a scene on this, uh the idea, Well, 318 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: let me say, let me start it this way. I'm 319 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: a little worried about this as a jump the shark 320 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: moment for hard knocks, um, as some of them. That's 321 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: that's written about the show for the past nine years 322 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: on our website. I I've watched every episode, written about 323 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: every episode. Um. There's been great seasons, there's been bloss seasons, 324 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: but this is the first one where I'm when I 325 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: I look at the five teams that were quote unquote 326 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: and more now that more than ever quote unquote hard 327 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: knocks eligible. Uh. And that list included Lions, Jags, Cardinals, 328 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: Broncos and Steelers. Uh. For them not to be chosen 329 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: instead to go with the Rams, UH, the l A 330 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Market team and the Chargers, the other l A Market 331 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: team moving into a new stadium, The Chargers who badly 332 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: need some juice, the Rams, who have a great relationship 333 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: obviously with the media side of things at the NFL. 334 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: It does feel like a promotional opportunity. And yes, you 335 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: could say they're always it's always a promotional opportunity hard knocks, 336 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: that's what it is. But this one feels a little 337 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: on the nose, and to me that that upsets me 338 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: as a Hard Knocks die hard. Steve talked me off 339 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: the ledge. Yeah, look, well, it's the thing of it 340 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: is the great stuff about Hard Knocks and the personalities 341 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: and the characters, And when you think about that, when 342 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: it comes to the Rams, you're talking about Sean mcveh and, 343 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: and you know, they don't have a lot of great characters. 344 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Donald's fantastic, and they've got some good players. 345 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of this is gonna hinge 346 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: on the Chargers, especially if they end up drafting to UH, 347 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: because now you're gonna have the twa Tyrod Taylor quarterback question. 348 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: You can have Anthony Lynn, who I'm glad he's getting 349 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: exposure because he's a fantastic head coach. But you know 350 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have him talking an awful lot of it, 351 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: so they'll be drama there, you know. And the Chargers 352 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: they've loaded up this offseason. You just have to see 353 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: what's happening at quarterback. Um. I don't know, it feels 354 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: a little bit forced. I would have liked to have 355 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: seen the Arizona Cardinals because you know them with DeAndre 356 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Hopkins and Kyler Murray's is gonna be a great player 357 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: in this league for a long time, and Cliff Kingsbury 358 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: and year two. I think that would have been a 359 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: very entertaining hard knocks. Um. But I'm just gonna see 360 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: how It's gonna be interesting to see how they navigated 361 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: because the move into a stadium, people outside the l 362 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: A market really aren't going to give a damn about that. 363 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, that is what it is. 364 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: It's it's a new stadium. It's gonna be splashy. But 365 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: how many people in the other markets are gonna, you know, 366 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: take a visit to come see either one of these 367 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: two teams play. I'm with you I think that that's 368 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: been pounded over our heads relentlessly in the l A area. 369 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: But why would we care at that word a subplot 370 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: in New Jersey or Detroit or Houston. We wouldn't. To me, 371 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: my one concern for the quality of the show, as 372 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: I think it succeeds when you go deeper than you 373 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: thought um with certain people and with coaches and certain 374 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: players that are you know, not necessarily uh, they become 375 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: stars during the show. One of its great qualities. When 376 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: you're splitting this up with UM two teams, I just 377 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: think it's to me, it's it strikes me as a 378 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: little less intimate. You're not getting a great feel for 379 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: one team necessarily if you're giving each half as much 380 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: real estate. Uh I I'm willing to I'm willing to 381 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: give it a look. I'll say this, I got a 382 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: little tired of the endless and predictable um l A 383 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: ontages when the rams were featured just a few years ago. 384 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: And they're gonna do that all of that all over again, 385 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: and it's just like I want to see. Hard Knocks 386 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: to me, is in danger when it feels re tread 387 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: um like retread material and they struggle with that a 388 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: little bit because it's not the only thing doing this anymore, 389 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: And they are going back to a subject matter that 390 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: they just touched on and it was not one of 391 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: their better seasons. It was Jeff Fisher, So that's a difference. 392 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: But I would be curious how this came about. Number one, 393 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, how much did the pandemic impact um it 394 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: didn't have an impact on teams not wanting to do it, 395 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: and how did how did the decision get made. Is 396 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: it something where hey, we need to push the rams 397 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: and the chargers or is it a situation that they've 398 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: run out of teams that are willing or want to 399 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: do it? And yeah, you have that list of teams 400 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: that you can force to do it, but I think 401 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: the NFL films has generally tried to avoid truly forcing 402 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: a team that didn't have agreement, certainly on the ownership level. 403 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: And is this like, are they to the only teams 404 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: that were down to do it? You know what I mean, 405 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: There's no way that they'll ever give that answer. I mean, 406 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: get rid of this whole thing with the rules for 407 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: hard knocks. I mean, it's the whole thing. I don't 408 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: know if that's I mean I have no idea, but 409 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you're gonna tell me that a 410 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Rams Chargers co joint. And remember the Tyrod Taylor. Everybody 411 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: likes Tyrod. We saw him on the Brown's Hard Knox 412 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: two years ago, Aaron Donald, Jared Goff. We learned about 413 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: him on the Rams Hard Knocks and oh, by the way, 414 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: the Rams All or Nothing season that that followed directly 415 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: after that. Um, I just I'm just wondering where Hard 416 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Knocks is going forward. Um, when it's clear to me 417 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that this idea that the teams could be compelled to 418 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: do it well, the Steelers should be doing it, or 419 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: the or or the Cardinals should be doing it, people 420 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: would be more interested in that. Maybe you're right, Greg, 421 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: maybe there's more because of the unprecedented times that they 422 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: just said, let's stick with these two local teams and 423 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: make it work that way. But yeah, as you could tell, 424 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worked up about it because I 425 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: love the show. I love right about the show, and 426 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: it makes me worry about the future of the show. 427 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: The pathage, I mean, Dan, you will get an opportunity 428 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: to write about and a critical um almost unsolved mysteries 429 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: type update as to whether Jared Goff is aware of 430 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: which side of the earth the sun rises from where 431 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: he's standing at this point. That see, we need that 432 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: update and you made the you made the good point 433 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: mark that the show, by its very nature can feel 434 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: repetitive sometimes if you watched every season, there are certain 435 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: tropes to hard knocks. When you take the that format 436 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: of the show and then marry it with a team 437 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: you just did, look out Well. The show is ultimately 438 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: about buying. Are the players buying into the coach? Are 439 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: the assistant coaches buying into the head coach? Are the 440 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: players buying into the quarterback? Are the viewers buying into 441 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: the angles that the show once? And I think it's 442 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: fair for you, Dan to question to buy in if 443 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: you feel like it's a little bit promotional. Mm hm, 444 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: we should stop here. Let's move on. We have some 445 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: new we have some new uniforms to talk about. Let's 446 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: start in eight. Nobody calls at a town. Uh. But 447 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: do people call it a t L? I don't know, 448 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: but I can tell you this. The Falcons have a 449 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: new uniform and they have a T L across the 450 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: front of it. This is a new fad. UH. Teams 451 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: putting the city of the Jets did it, the Browns 452 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: did it. I don't know if it's gonna stay with 453 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: the new Browns uniform reveal, Um, but it says a 454 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: T L across the jersey. It's uh. I guess there's 455 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: some other changes to it. The logo looks like it's 456 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: the same. Steve, your thoughts on this? What are people 457 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: saying down in your neck of the woods. Well, you know, 458 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: my kids, having grown up mainly in Atlanta when I 459 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: used to cover the Falcons f Atlanta General Constitution, are 460 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: huge Falcons fans. They were kind of about it, but 461 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean they ripped off the jersey idea from the 462 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks, one of the NBA's premier franchise. So I'm 463 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: the Hawks have a t l over it, Like, come on, 464 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, come up with something. You know. Someone made 465 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: a great point. I believe it was Ross Tucker who said, 466 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: you can kind of tell a lot about franchise when 467 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: they continue to change their uniforms, you know, every four 468 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: or five years, And the Falcons have done this a 469 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: few times. I don't get it. Um. I'm sure the 470 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: merchandizing and all that, but the all white uniforms are 471 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of slick. I'm a big, you know, all white 472 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: uniform guy, but the other ones look, you know, very 473 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Arena football league. That's why I thought it said a 474 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: f L across the front and not eight. That's I 475 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: feel like that's the number West. I'm sure you picked 476 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: up on this too. That's the number one put down 477 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: teams get when they release new uniforms. Now immediately people 478 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: say it looks like an Arena Football League team. Oh yeah, 479 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: And and I think that's an astute point that the 480 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: teams that change their uniforms every few years are the 481 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: same teams changing their defensive scheme, their coaches, their general 482 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: managers change every couple of years. Hey, you guys are 483 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: right on this. My my one rule when it comes 484 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: to uniform changes, because it seems also like, hey, this 485 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: other team in our division just did it, we gotta 486 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: do it too. There's a little bit of a fashion 487 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: catch up um scenario that I don't appreciate. But by 488 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the way, if you're gonna roll out new uniforms in 489 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: and you're a team that's had five or six iterations 490 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: of this, my rule is they better look better than 491 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: all the ones before. And and that's just not the 492 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: case with too many of these these revisions. I mean 493 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: this one to me. Um, I'm waiting for the Falcons 494 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: to change it again. All right, here is the miss 495 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: of from Arthur Blank, owner of the Falcons. We've stayed 496 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: true to our roots by keeping our colors and the 497 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: Falcon bird intact, making it even more prominent than ever before, 498 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: but delivering a more modern design that reflects our team, 499 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: our fans, and this great city. Black has been a 500 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: part of our history since nineteen sixty six, and both 501 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: our fans and players have asked us to bring it back. 502 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: I like the black, the black tops, and the white, 503 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: the white pants with the red shirt. I think that 504 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: looks good. Other than that red shirt, I'm fine with it. 505 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: The red one is rough. All right. Let's move out 506 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: to the other new jersey, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who 507 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: have they waved goodbye Mark and West. I know you're 508 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: gonna be very upset. Abo. They waved goodbye to the 509 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: alarm clock numbers on their jersey. Uh and the block 510 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: numbers as they call history. UM. No more traditional full 511 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: length stripes. UM. They decided, five years after launching that 512 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: alarm clock uniform that they need to do it again. 513 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: So here it is a new uniform set. What do 514 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: you guys think about this one? Go ahead, West, I'm 515 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: happy to have the offensive, vomit inducing road uniforms out 516 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: of my life. I don't love their new road road uniforms, 517 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: but I like the all white home ones and the 518 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: all Pewter color Rush ones are beautiful. I love though. Wow, 519 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: I like this West. The passion. Yeah, I'd like you know. 520 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: I am a big fan of what the Bucks did 521 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: compared to where they were a day ago. M I 522 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: see it right now. Nick Chook on Twitter has the 523 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: all Pewter and I agree it looks great. Mark your thoughts, Well, 524 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: I agree that it is an improvement. Um, the white 525 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: on white I think look great. I'm the the What 526 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: I would have wanted to see was the helmet decale 527 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: dealt with to some degree on it appeared to have 528 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: gotten larger, which was not my request. Um. Everyone seems 529 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: to love Peter on Pewter. I think it's a cool look. 530 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not there emotionally with everyone else. I 531 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: think they took steps to improve it, but it wasn't 532 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: a massive drastic overhaul, but it it any improvement off 533 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: of what it was, Um is okay by me. I'm 534 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: into the gray ones. Does the gray gray on, you know, 535 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: the gray with the pewter forget. That's my favorite, one 536 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: of the of either of these uniform ones. All right, 537 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: So it sounds like we like it like the Bucks 538 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: and Greg is a color blind individual, so that a 539 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: special big fan of gray. So what do we want 540 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: to get? We give the Bucks? What a B B 541 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: P plus and falcons? And Steve, what are we doing 542 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: for falcons? Yeah? They're they're they're d I mean, just 543 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: the rim off the way time you rip off the 544 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks. Man, It's like an amazing sticking point. I 545 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: love it. Also, like you shouldn't put your the airline 546 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: code on your jersey. It's okay in the NBA, but 547 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, those journeys are taken wife taking off the 548 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Arthur Blank Christmas card list as we speak. Well, hey, Steve, 549 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: do you have real quick on this? Do you have 550 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: any insight you're plugged in, gentleman in the league? Um, 551 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: any insight on what's going on with this um possible 552 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: virtual mock draft? How this is gonna go down? If 553 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: you talk to anybody who heard anything? Or is this 554 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: all just you've read about it like everybody else. Oh man, 555 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you took that turn. So I thought 556 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about the new RAMS logo. No, I mean, look, 557 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: the main thing you know that we're hearing here is 558 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: there are the concerns if there canna be technical glitches 559 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, during trades and all this. Um. And you know, 560 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: League is gonna have special circumstances for this. But I'm 561 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: why is that a concern Because every draft up to 562 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: this point, people have picked up a telephone and made 563 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: a phone call and made the trade. You don't make 564 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: trades over zoom. You don't make trades over video conferencing. 565 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: So I don't understand why that aspect of it has 566 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden become a concern. Um. So you know, 567 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: again that's kind of the big hang up. But yeah, 568 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna do all of the glitch testing. They're gonna 569 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: do make sure everything is rock solid. Uh. And I'm 570 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: just gonna be interesting what type of production it is 571 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: because players are gonna be having cameras and their locations 572 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: for reaction. Um. You know, so so just how they're 573 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna do all the production with it. But the big concern, 574 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: like I said, seems to be that there could be 575 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: glitches with trades and things like that, and again special circumstances, 576 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: these teams will be given I guess, special time to 577 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: work things out. But I just don't see why that's 578 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: an issue now when you can just pick up the 579 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: phone and make a deal like they've always done. It 580 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: struck me as a I mean, there's a pr angle 581 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: to it where there's all these you know in Twitter. 582 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Twitter commands a lot of stuff out there, and there's 583 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: all these whipper snappers telling us how funny it's gonna 584 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: be when g M. A um is unable to make 585 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: a pick because he can't log into his computer, which 586 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: is just utter nonsense to me. For the way the 587 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: I t support they all have. And it's a pr 588 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: angle to say where a it makes sense just to 589 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: just test it out and go ahead and do it. 590 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: Have fun. But like we tried, we we took precautions 591 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: versus hey, we did nothing, and then you know, round 592 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: two melted on national television for whatever reason. Uh, And 593 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: we never we never saw this coming because we are 594 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: most of us are age fifty five and above. I 595 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: would just like to point out that all mock drafts, 596 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: which you see every day on Twitter. Every single mock 597 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: draft is a virtual So you're telling me you're having 598 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: a mock mock draft, and it blows my mind and 599 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea how that would be done. It 600 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of the universe is gonna collapse in on itself 601 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: against so what and you It would be amazing. By 602 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: the way, if they use the actual players from this 603 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: draft class and guys are giving away state secrets because 604 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: they're so worried about I T issues, I would get. 605 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do is stave like us the 606 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft class as the as the examples for 607 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: who do you who to pick? I'm curious how that 608 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: all goes down. Yeah, it's a weird time. But I 609 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: think the cool part about this is for years, guys, 610 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: and we've heard it. Oh the combine, these pro days 611 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: and these visits, they're all just fact checks to the 612 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: in person study, the practice study, and the film study. Well, 613 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: now that's what these teams are gonna have to rely on. Yeah, 614 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: they're doing video conferences with these draft prospects. But these 615 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: teams with the good scouting departments are going to be revealed, 616 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: as are the teams with with shallow scouting departments. And 617 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of people about this, and 618 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: they're really interested to see because some teams hire information 619 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: gatherers as opposed to football guys, and um, you know, 620 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: these teams that don't have a lot of deep connections 621 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: UM on who to check back background for, for character 622 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: witnesses and things like that, those are the teams that 623 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: are gonna miss. And there's gonna be some misses in 624 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: this as there are in every draft. But you know, 625 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: the people kind of under the hood a little bit 626 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: are saying this is where some team scouting staff scouting 627 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: staffs are really gonna be revealed. I mean, we'll get 628 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: some amazing finger pointing coming out of this. UM. You know, 629 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: for months and months and years as certain prospects melt 630 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: off the grid and the gms, some of these gms 631 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: will use it as an excuse. I'm sure as well. 632 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, I know I blew the draft, but you 633 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: know we were facing challenges that no time. Um. Finally 634 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: in the news Jadeveon Clowney, Yes see where was he 635 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: when you first put out the top one oh one? Um? 636 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: Greg and West three? I think behind and Dak number 637 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: three on the top one free agents still on the 638 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: street looking for a gig. Mike Garafolo of NFL Network 639 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: reported at this point Clowney resigning and Seattle appears to 640 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: be a long shot. I think there's been Uh. I 641 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought this that the way 642 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: this market is playing out, that Clowney would maybe end 643 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: up back in Seattle. But according to Garret follow uh, 644 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: and he's good with this stuff as well. Uh, that's 645 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: not the case. Mark. The Browns are connected to Clowney. 646 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on that. Do you think that 647 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: would be good for Obviously I'm papered. It seems great 648 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: if you lined them up across from Miles Garrett. But 649 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: his Clowney a guy that you'd want to pay eighteen 650 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: million a year and hope that he maxes out his potential. 651 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: What's not to like? I think they'd lead the league 652 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: in cap room right now. Um, their roster, you know, 653 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to fall for what I felt for 654 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: last year, but the roster is, um pretty juicy. They 655 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: definitely could use help on defense, you know, last night, 656 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: because because it sounds like we're gonna be in our 657 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: house forever. We purchased an Xbox and I played Madden 658 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: for the first time in about twenty years and dropped 659 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: the thirty five to seven bomb on the Seahawks. What 660 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: if you add Clowney to the team? I was playing 661 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: last night, all bombs away. We're going sixteen to know 662 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: and right through the playoffs in vertical reality times? All right? 663 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: What about for what? What's not to like? He had 664 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: three sacks last year, he missed more times with injury. Uh, 665 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: he would. He would cost a ton of money. There's 666 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: been questions about his motivation level, whether he's always their 667 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: motor wise. I think it's a one year a one 668 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: year deal, though, I think I don't. I don't think 669 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: there's been much question about his motor you know, on 670 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: the field. I mean maybe there's some Bill O'Brien, which 671 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: is maybe more about Bill O'Brien like whispers back in 672 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the day in terms of his off season. But the 673 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: crazy thing with the Browns is they have Olivier Vernon 674 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: still on the team. We we kind of expected him 675 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: to get cut and it's a perfect situation for the Browns. 676 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: I do because I think if you bring in Clowney, 677 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: you probably get rid of Vernon, and so whether they 678 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: get him or not, they're they're fine. No, no, guys, 679 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: he's not he's not fit for that team. I mean, 680 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: you could say it's a one year did it would 681 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: have to be on a one year deal because I 682 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: think that's what he's doing now, right I think it's 683 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: I think it would be a one year thing. But 684 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: you don't think it's a fit as a player or 685 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: as a person. Know that that locker room is a tinderbox. 686 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: Um you they're still going through changes up top. I 687 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: think they need you know, Clownie is not a big personality, 688 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: but he is one of those athletes that carries you know, 689 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: by a mood. You know, people kind of work around 690 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: him a little bit. I just don't think for that 691 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: team right now, they need to add another big name, 692 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: another big personality. I think they need to get and 693 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: not saying Jadeveon Clowne, who I really like, not saying 694 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: he's not a lunch pale type of guy. But if 695 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna make a move, I'd go more for an 696 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: Everson Griffin type. Um who's just a solid and that's 697 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon. Olivia Vernon is a younger younger version, um, 698 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: more expensive version than Everson Griffin, But I would go 699 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: there instead of adding him into that locker room right now, 700 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: they they've got to get their arms around the culture 701 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: of that building, and I just think having a few 702 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: lower profile guys would help in that regard. Yeah, they 703 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: win the offseason again if they get clowney, But I 704 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: totally I feel the same way Steve that that that 705 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: feels like a day dress move. I don't know. Um. Finally, 706 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, Steve, you um sat down with 707 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: Alabama quarterback to Uh Tagalo Lvilla Tongua viola to l 708 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: uh and Um, you got some information about how he's feeling. 709 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: But what what are the other What's the kind of 710 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: vibe you got, uh face to face with this kid 711 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: who obviously is someone that a lot of people believe 712 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: goes in the top five maybe in the draft. Um 713 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: and so fascinating, but also of course the injury history 714 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: of the ways college career ended. What's your vibe after 715 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: meeting with him? Well, look, I I've known it for 716 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: a while and the family for a while, and you 717 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: know he's he's the real deal. You know, guys, you 718 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: all know Kurt Warner and just how genuine of a 719 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: human being he is. And and two is very much 720 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: that guy. He's he's his own man um and he's 721 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: just so wise. And one of the things in the 722 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: interview that really struck me, you know, I said, how 723 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: are these video interviews going? He says, they're great. Some 724 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: teams have their owners involved. Um, you've got a lot 725 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: of different leadership, He's like. But the thing I gather 726 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: is I can tell the culture of what's going on 727 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: by some of the things that are set. So I said, 728 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: are you finding that out by questions you ask or 729 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: just kind of reading the tea leaves? These is some 730 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: of this from the questions I asked with some of 731 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: it's from the things they say and they don't say, 732 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: so that kind of lets you know, this is a 733 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: guy who's radar is always up right, whether he's he's 734 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: judging these types of things on the field off the field. Um. 735 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: I've got a huge long form piece coming out on 736 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: him in the next couple of days on NFL dot Com. 737 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: I really get into a lot of these a lot 738 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: of things just about him and and a lot of 739 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: his things in his life and where things are headed. 740 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: But he's just so smart that you know, any team 741 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: that gets him, I get it. The medical is is 742 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: a legitimate thing. You you have got to be sure 743 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: one way or another. But if you don't draft him 744 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: and he'd be comes Drew Brees, another guy who had 745 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: a medical history, that's gonna cost people their jobs. Um. 746 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: So whether Miami is throwing up all these smoke screens 747 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: about liking Justin Herbert, I've I've heard the same thing. 748 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: A lot of folks are hearing these people in the 749 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: building like like Herbert better. Um. But if they pass 750 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: on him and he gets to the Chargers and he 751 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: becomes big for the Chargers, that's that's just one of 752 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: those situations you never know. Um. But he's somebody who's 753 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: very very deep. Um, but not in one of the 754 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: eclectic deep ways. You know. You hear a lot of quarterbacks, 755 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: but they say over analyzed and overthink things. Joey Harrington 756 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: comes to mind, guy had all the tools, but just 757 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: overexamined every last thing too. Is not that guy, um. 758 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: But um, when the piece comes out, you'll find a 759 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: lot of really interesting things said about him by coaches 760 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: who've had to face him and deal with him, and 761 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: just you understand where a lot of this comes from. 762 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: Because he's a very spiritual kid, and I think someone 763 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: who wherever he goes, he's gonna be such a winner 764 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: in the community and such a win in the locker 765 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: room that even if he is somewhat limited, he's just 766 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: gonna be such a such a positive force. Um, he's 767 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: going to help out any ball club. Get them Chargers. 768 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the move, Get them Chargers, that's the move. 769 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: I keep saying it to Rosie, I keep saying it. 770 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: But you know, if the Dolphins let the Chargers jump, 771 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: move up till number five and assume it's gonna be there. 772 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: It sounds like if teams are talking to him, are 773 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: they not mesmerized with it? With the persons side of it, Uh? Insane. 774 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: We gotta get up above number five to make this happen. Well, 775 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: we just talked with Schreegor. Schreeger said yesterday that in 776 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: his talks with people around the league, there's there's less 777 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: of a feeling and a certainty about how coveted he is. 778 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: And the idea of the Lions, who a lot of 779 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: people point to as a team that might trade back, well, 780 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: they might not have the partner. People expect that's that 781 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: obviously could all be draft smoke right now, but he's 782 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of a fascinating prospect from that aspect as well. Yeah, 783 00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if a team that's so 784 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: he has to jump up. I mean, I think that's 785 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of what we're seeing right now, is that he 786 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: might be there at five four Miami. And here's the thing, 787 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: should he take a dip, should he get past five 788 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: or maybe even past the charges, which would be just mouthfeasance. 789 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: If he does, look for the Raiders thought, look for 790 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders to be a team to come up and 791 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: make a move. You know, I've heard spoken to people 792 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: there could there could be some interest there. They're they're 793 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: they're not gonna make the huge leap to come up 794 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: and get him. But if he starts to slip there, 795 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: they're a team that's that's gonna get an itchy trigger 796 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: finger and he would be huge there. Um. You know, 797 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is like a big brother to him. We 798 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: know they just signed him to be David Carr's back up. 799 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: We still don't know what's gonna I mean, Derek Carr's 800 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: back up, and we still don't know what happens with him. 801 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: The Patriots are still out there is a team that 802 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: could pull a trigger on a trade. Um, So we 803 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: really don't know. But the two a story. We're talking 804 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: about him so much because there's just so many different 805 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: things that can happen um with him, just because teams 806 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: are afraid of the medical and they can't get their 807 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: hands on him because of the pandemic. Well, Steve, you 808 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: you like the kid, You're You're tight with the family, 809 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: so out of respect for you, man, I respect so much, 810 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: I am going to pronounce his last name correctly effective immediately, 811 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: tongue go vay, lola bang, well done, and I will 812 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: never get it wrong ever again. That's my promise to you, 813 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Steve Wisch. It's not just a good head of hair. 814 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: You can tell that to uh to d uh Steve Weise, 815 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: you you've said it all. You came on and uh 816 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: like every time you're on the Around the NFL podcast, 817 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you just hit out of the park. You 818 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: guys are the best. Man. I love being on and 819 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate love you guys, and I hope you're staying 820 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: safe and your families are all good you too, Stephen, 821 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: keep up the prison workouts and stay safe and I 822 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: hope to see you back in the office. Oh my 823 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: goodness before too long. And a reminder of everybody our 824 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: Twitter show uh that we're doing on Friday. We're kind 825 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,439 Speaker 1: of launching it. It's a season kind of a week 826 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: in review type show. Make sure you you check it out. 827 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: It is on at one pm Pacific, four pm Eastern 828 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: and what would that be eight o'clock in the UK, 829 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: nine o'clock in that range, live on Twitter. We're gonna 830 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna try it out and we're excited to see 831 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: how it goes. Could be a disaster, if for no 832 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: other reason than to see, uh, the idea of doing 833 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: a live Twitter show fully produced with people across our 834 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: city UM working on the production elements of it, that 835 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: it could go terribly wrong. Check the show out just 836 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: for that reason. Forget about the football and talking the 837 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: mirth Uh Friday, Uh, four pm Eastern, one pm Pacific. 838 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: That's it. Good night. Nice follow up comments, guys, Um, 839 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: this is Dan Hansen signing off for Quiet Storm, The 840 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: mail Man, the Old Boss, Real promotional Machines, you guys, 841 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: and the Great Steve Wish Uh gonna be the Draft 842 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: Dance and no one's saying it to be a precursor 843 00:42:51,280 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: to the draft. There you go until Thursday.