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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with her radio. Hi. Well, hello,

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Speaker 1: Trisa Sutter Nay. Are you are you today on this

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Speaker 1: beautiful Wednesday, almost Father's Day. I am doing great, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a little bit of an emergency on my hands.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to do something good and my wife's

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Speaker 1: phone someone dumped water on it. You know. We put

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Speaker 1: it in rice for a couple of days. So I

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Speaker 1: decided it was a good time to switch phone service too,

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Speaker 1: So I went and got us new phones and I

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Speaker 1: switched everything over, and for some reason, her photos and

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Speaker 1: videos haven't fully restored yet, and it's been twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: and we're like, what and with the you know, with

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Speaker 1: the new phone deal and everything, you now trade in

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Speaker 1: your old phone, so they wipe your old phone and

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Speaker 1: you trade it in, and I'm just like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: So does she have it backed up anywhere? Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: backed it up. We have it backed up on the cloud,

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Speaker 1: but it's not showing up in the cloud. We have

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Speaker 1: done this two times, like five years ago, ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: I lost I'm going to assume it was probably around

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Speaker 1: pictures um from from my phone, kind of the same

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Speaker 1: same sort of thing. It is. It is so scary

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Speaker 1: how we are so reliant on our technology. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: for me, pictures are my memory. Like if I don't

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Speaker 1: have a picture, I don't remember something. I really think

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Speaker 1: that I have a memory disorder or whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call it. I think I always have. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's just mommy brain, even though that is always

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Speaker 1: my excuse. There you go. Yeah, but I've always had

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Speaker 1: a bad memory, and it's genetic too, So pictures are

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Speaker 1: like my thing that you have to have to remember

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Speaker 1: your life. And I'm so sorry. That is so frustrating.

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Speaker 1: She has you know, she had a couple of videos

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Speaker 1: on there from you know, our our son Blake just

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Speaker 1: learning to walk, and then she she apparently made me

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Speaker 1: some very very nice video for Father's Day that she made.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not showing up so I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that one obviously, but it's just it's a real it's

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Speaker 1: a real bummer bummer. Yeah, yeah, it's a downer. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, this podcast today, our Chat on a

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Speaker 1: fo G, is going to pick you up because we've

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Speaker 1: got some really fun guys who I know you love

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Speaker 1: just as much as I do. Um Andrew Firestone and

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Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick will be joining us today. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a Father's day, uh celebration if you will on the

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Speaker 1: podcast because we want we wanted to talk to some

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Speaker 1: fathers in Bachelor Nation, and Jason Mesnick I believe was

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Speaker 1: the first lead to have a kid, all right, not

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Speaker 1: even the girl. I don't think the girls either. I

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Speaker 1: child as the lead of Bachelor or Bachelor at Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, they just did a thing for

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, reached out to me and did this interview

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Speaker 1: which I thought was really cool. I did for Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: Did Yeah, it was so nice. It was so nice.

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Speaker 1: It actually it actually made me made me like just

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Speaker 1: really kind of nostalgic, you know, thinking about you know,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, now I am a dad. Like I

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Speaker 1: Like I've got to be on point for these things

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Speaker 1: and you know, responsible, I want to be there for

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Speaker 1: sobering moment when you're sitting there, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: that my favorite my favorite answer or my favorite question

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Speaker 1: remember your from mother day, but it was you know.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for new dads, I said, Actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't have an advice for the new dads. I

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Speaker 1: do have advice for people who don't yet have kids, though,

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Speaker 1: and my my advice wise, um, don't be so quick

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Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with just parenthood in general.

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Speaker 1: going to do it. I remember I did, Um, we

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Speaker 1: did the cry atout method for helping our kids sleep.

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Speaker 1: So we didn't want our kids sleeping in our bed

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Speaker 1: and we chose to do cry it out actually after

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Speaker 1: you know, with regard to their safety and happiness and

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Speaker 1: is it is really challenging, um, is to not look

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Speaker 1: at someone else's situation and be judgment Well, we have

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Speaker 1: so my son comes in twice a night on the average,

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Speaker 1: like we'll put him go to sleep on seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: By midnight he comes with daddy, you know, not Blake,

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Speaker 1: not no no Grace. Yeah great, Yeah, So I'll pick

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Speaker 1: Grason up, I'll take him back to his bed, I'll

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Speaker 1: And so we're like, how are we going to break

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Speaker 1: pound it on the door. Liked, why am I locked

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Speaker 1: Whoever gave you that piece of advice, if that worked

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Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah right. Um. I also my piece of

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Speaker 1: And my other my advice to fellow parents was don't

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Speaker 1: ever be too proud to ask for help. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like everyone needs help sometimes. And I

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Speaker 1: please provide me a meal? Train? Trust us? You want

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Speaker 1: just kidding. Now, my kids are like four and five

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Speaker 1: call you every day. Oh my god. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: never gonna be a great time, but I'm always going

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Speaker 1: try I'd like, all right, yeah, go ahead, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. No, I was gonna say that Andrew is

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Speaker 1: before we bring him in? No, I I don't. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited to talk to him. Let's grab him. There

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Speaker 1: he is, Tan, look at the Tan. Are you now?

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Speaker 1: Are you in Santa Barbara? Yes? Home, it's home, very nice.

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Speaker 1: What's up, buddy? What's going on? Mr Bob? I was

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Speaker 1: just saying that you are my favorite Bachelor of all time.

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Speaker 1: That's weird because I'm on the call. No, no, it's

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Speaker 1: just the truth. Whenever anyone asks, like you know, they

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Speaker 1: always go, you know who you've watched all the season? Like, well,

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Speaker 1: I I've missed the last you know, sixteen. But I

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Speaker 1: one of the like the best sense of humor, right,

423
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, I mean, because I've always loved

424
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: your sense of humor. You're well, Andrew is a little

425
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: What I love about Andrew said humor. We play off

426
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: each other very well, frankly. But what I've always loved

427
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: andrew sense of humor is he's okay being the guy

428
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: who's like just sits back, observes, and then makes very funny,

429
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: witty banter. And I love that waiting to see if

430
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be funny or mean out of your mouth.

431
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: So I'm just like liking a giggle or like literally

432
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: like you know, do one of those things and right

433
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: down and be like, I'm gonna get him later. But

434
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: he list. I doubt that I'm gonna ever get the

435
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: most humorous back for next to you, Bob. But but

436
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: if I'm somewhere in that, in that atmosphere, I'll take that.

437
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: I got thet You get my vote. I think I'm

438
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: a clown. You're actually someone I enjoy listening and having funny.

439
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: He's a comedian, You're the clown. Yeah, exactly, he's He's funny,

440
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: but now always graceful and always always gracious and always

441
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: glad to have you on. Buddy. Well, yeah, you guys

442
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: can come out to Santa Barbara. Up standing invitations see

443
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: you guys out of your stone, your families parting words.

444
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: How do I do You did a good job. I

445
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: did a great I think you said a great job.

446
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: She said a great job. Two thumbs up over here

447
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: in Anna. Thank you buddy, Happy you guys, Happy Father's Day.

448
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: See the best a guy. I'm telling you, Yeah, I agree.

449
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: I agree. I've always loved him. He's been my You

450
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: and him are my are my Well I can't say

451
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: this now that Jason is coming in, but you're like,

452
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: can you hear me already? Sorry? But yeah, I mean,

453
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: I feel like we just connected because we were really

454
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: early on the three of us, like whether we were

455
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: doing photo shoots like he and I, UM and Jen

456
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: and Ryan did a photo shoot. I think it was

457
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: an aspen somewhere in Colorado, but we connected there and

458
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: then we had the photo shoot with me, you and Um,

459
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: Ali and Emily and Andrew UM. So, like, you know,

460
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: because I think because we just connected over a bunch

461
00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: of um different opportunities that well, right, we were all

462
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: the same era. So it's kind of like you you

463
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: feel comfortable knowing who you know and and the fact

464
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: that we've all remained friends for so many years is

465
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: so nice because you know it doesn't have to work

466
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: out that way, you hope that it does, and and

467
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: it's such a blessing I think for all of us

468
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: that that we have each other to kind of go

469
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: through this stuff with, because it is kind of weird

470
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's nice to be able to like call

471
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: each other and go, is this are you experiencing this?

472
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Because I'm kind of going through this, you know or whatever.

473
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: It might be nice to have someone to bounce it

474
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: off of and who's been there, done that, and you

475
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: know it's probably gonna through it with you, So I agree. Hi, Jason,

476
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: one of the first people I I hung out with

477
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: when I moved to Seattle, our boy, Jason Mesnick. Everybody,

478
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick. You guys know this is like like you

479
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: guys are just a couple of days. Is more O

480
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: G than me? Like when I hang out with the

481
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: h This is probably going back to like two thousand

482
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: ten or eleven. The guys back then would call me

483
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: the Godfather. Noah nice. Yeah, I understand that, dude, I'm

484
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: still only like thirty three. But like, okay, when you

485
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: were the Bachelor, how old were you when you were

486
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: the Bachelor? One, okay, yeah, and then you're the godmother.

487
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: I get the godfather sometimes too. Actually, now I get

488
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: the grandfather. So I guess, well, okay, so one of

489
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: our bachelorettes, I will leave her name out of it.

490
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: She um in an interview she I think was going

491
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: to call me. They usually call me the fairy godmother.

492
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: And she was like our fairy grandmother, and I was like,

493
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: wait a second, like that's not cool. I'm sorry, but

494
00:26:53,720 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: grandmother and godmother just two way different things. So I

495
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: do like, I can't see it. But there's a lot

496
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: of great here. Oh I just got my color, and

497
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: you guys look great as a kids. Great, I'm a

498
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: great great grandfather. I guess no, no, but I'm right

499
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: on your tail. I'm fifty this year in October. This

500
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: is the year happy, Happy. This is a big year.

501
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: I love turning. I almost loved as much as oft

502
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: not quite as much stuff. But yeah, what I'm not

503
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: really looking forward to it, um just agewise, but you know, celebration.

504
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: I'm it's always good to have some kind of celebration

505
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: on the show now or what, like they're still in

506
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: the early Yeah, yeah, I we literally could be their parents.

507
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: You know we could have if we had really, if

508
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: we had babies really early in our life. Start it

509
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: worked for me and she's twenty one, and I'm like, okay, wait,

510
00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I was way out of college when you were born. Yeah, funny, Jason,

511
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: how old I'll be forty six in a couple of weeks. Okay,

512
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I knew we were close in age, but

513
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: yeah we're five years apart. So yeah, I mean I

514
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: think about that all the time. Whenever I've done something

515
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: and run to someone who's from one of the newer

516
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: shows and I'll find a how a they are in Canyon.

517
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: My wife will always go, could be your son? Yeah,

518
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, thanks, thanks. The one thing I remember about

519
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: even the show was we were the last season that

520
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: was not HD, so you know, like if they showed

521
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: old footage like they got the bars on each side, Yeah,

522
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: the great like almost black and white. You're the last season.

523
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, thank God, seriously, little blessings, little

524
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: blessings of being the O G S. Yeah, I'll tell

525
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: you a lot. It's a forgiving It's a forgiving lens.

526
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: The old lenses were forgiving for me. I used to

527
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: always say that they would like you know, they say

528
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: the camera added ten pounds, and I'd be like, so,

529
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: what do you guys shooting me with like twenty cameras?

530
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: This is bullshit. I feel a little puffy today. What's

531
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: going on? Um? So, we wanted to bring you on

532
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of as a little Father's day podcast or hour,

533
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And you were the

534
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: first lead to come into the lead position as a father,

535
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: So I'd love for you to talk a little bit

536
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: about that and being on Jillian season. Were you one

537
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: of the first to come on as a cast member

538
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: if you will a bachelor on a Bachelorette with child? Yeah,

539
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, and honestly, I'm pretty sure

540
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: that's the only reason I got cast. Like I remember,

541
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I remember like I had some local dude shoot my

542
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: casting video. In the old video was tie and I

543
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: wearing like matching Michael Jordan Jersey's dunking on h I

544
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: mean that's cute. That is super cute. Yeah. Yeah, And

545
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: now he got my asked right. I mean, it's crazy.

546
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: I got where did he get that height from his mom?

547
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean his mom and her family are like straight

548
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: from the Giant Vikings. He really is a tall He's

549
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: a tall, lean kid, really good looking kids. I mean

550
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, is he is he pretty active

551
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: in sports right now and stuff? Is he just loves it,

552
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. So he's like, he'll be a

553
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: senior next year in high school. And I was sitting

554
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: next to like he does his off basket, offseason basketball stuff,

555
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: and his coach's wife was like, I never told you this,

556
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: but my husband and I are big Bachelor fans. And

557
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh crap, did you watch him back

558
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: when we were on? They're like hell yeah, and Tyle

559
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: was three, right, so yeah, when he first saw ty

560
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: this is going on The Bachelor, ty was still pers

561
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: and I remember their footage of him and diapers that

562
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: his mom t His mom didn't like that. I was like, like,

563
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: so that's still his coach's first view of tie four

564
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: kid and diaper so long ago. You know. Isn't that

565
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of cool though, that this? I mean this and

566
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, obviously now social media, which wasn't around. Yeah,

567
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Jason, he liked been one of the first

568
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: seasons that started with some social media stuff too, right,

569
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: or I remember like when the season I mean obviously

570
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: this season ended so weird, but like, it was such

571
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: a big deal on Twitter. And I remember something somebody saying,

572
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: like it was a big deal on Twitter and I

573
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: had five thousand followers. Yeah, I mean it was a

574
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: huge deal and let like to have that many followers,

575
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: even five thousand was a lot. Yeah that Hey, So

576
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: going back to like you being the first one, how

577
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: did that feel like? Were you were? Were you on

578
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: edge more than maybe like I like I was on

579
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: edge just thinking about how my grandma was watching and

580
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: my parents were watching, but you had your son, you

581
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: know too, to show that you're this awesome role model

582
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: on television. So how did that feel coming in, um,

583
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: not having anyone to look to from previous shows? What

584
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: were your feelings going in? How did you feel? Um?

585
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean that was I mean, honestly, that was the

586
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: only reason not to do it. And I think part

587
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: of it was I had a big response, like I

588
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: was always co parenting with his wife, but at that

589
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: time he was with me quite a bit more, um,

590
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: And so I think it was much more of like, hey,

591
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: how do I figure out like filming the if I

592
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: go back to the bachelorette where you have a little

593
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: bit less control and less of a voice. You know,

594
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: he was staying with like my brother for a while

595
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: and then let him fly out to see me. But

596
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, they gave me a lot more power,

597
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: meaning like I would say, hey, like he's got to

598
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: be out here all the time, and so I would go, um,

599
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean most of the time, you know, at the

600
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: house I was staying at, I would go on dates

601
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: and then he would just be sitting in my bed

602
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: waiting for me when I got home. Like most like

603
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: when I think about him, all my memories of I mean,

604
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: of course, there's some of the show stuff is like, Okay,

605
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: what's Tie doing? Can I get back and see him

606
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: and see him in time? You know that that type

607
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: of stuff, And they would they would be they were

608
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: very good about well most of the time. They were

609
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: very good about him being great and making sure that

610
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: he's not too cranky in that type of thing. But

611
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I remember the very first concept they had was what

612
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: if we have all the girls babysit Tie when he

613
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: was three, And I was like, not gonna happen, Yeah,

614
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: no way, Like, how about we just got the Los

615
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers come and just hang out with Yeah. They're like, well,

616
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. I'm like, see what I mean, Yeah,

617
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: it's not that. If that doesn't happen, this doesn't happen.

618
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Like so they had some wonky ideas because I think

619
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: they thought it would be cute for TV. But the

620
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: majority of time, I think there were a couple of

621
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: things that we did, but the majority of time it

622
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: was just like if you saw him, it was with

623
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: me in the hotel room or the house or something

624
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: like that. Does he remember any of it? No, he

625
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: has no, Like he actually like, you know not. All

626
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: the seasons are now on Netflix or a lot of

627
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: them on Netflix. So when ours was on Netflix, I

628
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: think it was right when COVID first hit. He asked

629
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: me if he could watch it, and it became like

630
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: so he was seven, So he was fifteen at the time,

631
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: and it was a big deal because I had to

632
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: go talk to his mom about it and she's like, Okay,

633
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: like I knew this was gonna happen someday as long

634
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: as you explained to him why you did the things

635
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you did and what stuff was TV versus real. Yeah,

636
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: but he was. He watched the first couple episodes and

637
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: he was like, I was kind of interesting. And after

638
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: like episode three or four, he's like, it's so boring,

639
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch, Like I don't even watch the Seahawks

640
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: or whatever I did watch after the final rows with you,

641
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think he really cared, like he knew,

642
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: like he knew all about it by that point. He

643
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: never and like, if I pass forward to now, like Riley,

644
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: the only thing Riley's ever watched is the wedding stuff. Yeah,

645
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: we haven't let her watch anything else yet. No, she's not.

646
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: She I don't feel like she's old enough. I do

647
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: have to tell a funny story. So we went to

648
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: um Disneyland with Jason and Molly are family and their

649
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: their family. It was the best time. We had such

650
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: a great time, Um, but I will never forget. It's

651
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: kind of like scarred me for life. Is we were

652
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: walking around and Ty was kind of in the back

653
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: of the pack with me and someone else, maybe me

654
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: and Blakesley or me and Max or something, And all

655
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden he was gone, and I was like, you, guys,

656
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: where is Ty? Where is Ty? Thank the Lord, he

657
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: had the wherewithal to ask for someone with a Disney tag,

658
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Um tell him that he was lost, and I think

659
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: we went back to the place that we had seen him.

660
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: Do you remember this, Jason, We were just Molly and

661
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: I were just talking about this two days ago, Oh

662
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: my gosh, California. But he asked. I was like, oh

663
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: my god, I lost Hie. Oh my god. And everyone's like,

664
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: it is not your fault, he's my kid or whatever,

665
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: so don't like but I'm like, he was back here

666
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: with me and then he was gone. I don't know

667
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: where he is. Oh. It was so luckily, Remember we

668
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: had one of those guided tours and because of that,

669
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got their mics on, so like it

670
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: goes from one guy to one guide to the next.

671
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: Will he's leaving, Um, she's gone to look at houses.

672
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Um she went from Uh. They go to all the

673
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: different guides and luckily our guide and we're able to

674
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: find him real quick. But like, yeah, to lose your

675
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: kid at Disneyland, oh my god, Dad, man, Dad, I mean, like,

676
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: I know, people go through terrible things with health and

677
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: whatnot for their kids. Yeah, not like luckily. The worst thing.

678
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the worst feeling like I've been

679
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: at like the playground where you're like you can't see

680
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: him for a second and then off the slide or

681
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: something like Disneyland. I know. That's why I was speaking out.

682
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: I was like, this cannot happen. And all of us

683
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: were kind of in our own little little tiny bubbles.

684
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: We were walking all as a pack, but obviously there's

685
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: crowds of people and oh gosh, it was so scared.

686
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: It was California, not Florida too. I mean, California is

687
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: you know, huge, but considerably smaller than Florida. Oh my god,

688
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: Florida one scares me. You know. It's like, you know,

689
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: did he grab a park Hopper and is he an apcot?

690
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: I don't even know, you know, Bob, have you guys

691
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: done Disney yet? So we did? Um we did this year.

692
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: We went. We went to Disney with Grayson at three

693
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: and a half in California and it was a burn

694
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: burner of a day, super hot, and uh but he wants.

695
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: All he cared about was seeing Lightning McQueen and made her,

696
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, we thought he'd be into

697
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: the other stuff too. He really just you know, wasn't

698
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: super caring about it. So we walk into like the

699
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: cars exhibit that they have and man, he was just

700
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: like we were walking into the cutest little town in

701
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Carbureader County because he just crazy. He was just having

702
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: the best time. And that was awesome. That was like

703
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: the most excited I've seen him. And you know, it

704
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: was awesome. We get back in the car to come

705
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: home and I turned around to go, you know, how

706
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: was it, Bunny? And I turned around and he's passed out.

707
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: You know, just told done. Of course. You know, whenever

708
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: we did Disney, and we did it a lot, I

709
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: think we did it like five years in a row,

710
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: we always said rules out the window. You can have

711
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: as much sugar as you want because we're just gonna

712
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: keep you going, going, going. And then at the end

713
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: of the day, the goal is to get you to

714
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: pass out. And so you have the goal. Oh yeah,

715
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: I gave him the big lemonade. He's like sucking it down. King,

716
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: It's like, what's he drinking. I'm like, you know, it's

717
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: in Aisippi cup. It's probably just water with a lot

718
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: of sugar and a little bit of lemon. So, Bob,

719
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: take a tip from us, but you need to make

720
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: sure you constantly are talking about Okay, let's have a

721
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: meeting place if you get lost, look for the person

722
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: with the Disney tag or whatever. It was like like

723
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: you know the old phone cord where you can connect

724
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: your kid leah, do you know? It's really funny. So

725
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: we were at some part we were just talking before

726
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: we had you and Jason. We were talking about that

727
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: backstor Nation thing that they did when they asked some dads,

728
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, some questions about Father's Day and stuff. And

729
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: this year they talked to me, and so I was

730
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: asking the answering these questions. And my one of my

731
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: big things was, you know, as someone who's not a

732
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: parent yet, just no, because I was that guy for

733
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: forty seven years, try not to judge parents, you know,

734
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: because you don't know what they're going through. So and

735
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I pad a kid leash. All things I've said no

736
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: to now. iPad now is my best friend. And the

737
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: kid leash, I will not lie to you. If I

738
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: could find one that he'd be wearing it because I

739
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: can't keep up. The kid is like it's so fast,

740
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: and so I'm like trucking down the street. Damn it,

741
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: I need one of those leashes, you know. I had

742
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: to get a one. Trista, did you ever use one. No, No,

743
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: I never did. I was constantly just holding their hand. Um,

744
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, but no, I didn't do the leash. I

745
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: kind of felt that same way, like really, but I know,

746
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: I I think I would do it. I would probably

747
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: do it if I feel like a really active kid,

748
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's why as long as what that

749
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: comes with a muzzle, that's awesome. Yeah that's more of

750
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: a pacifier. But what yeah yeah, same, same, Yeah. So

751
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: how is Riley doing? How's your donuts with daddy days? Good?

752
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: Riley just had her big annual gymnastics performance last night.

753
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: Yes I saw that. Yeah, she was very very nervous

754
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: but did great. Um no, she's she's good. Like, you know,

755
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: school gets out this week, so it's always a big

756
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: panic of like, you know, especially for Molly, like what

757
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna do all summer? I got like half the

758
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: weeks in summer camp and in the other half some

759
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: weeks is iPad week, Like the iPads A like Bob,

760
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: like you're saying, it's it's like as a parent, you're like,

761
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm terrible, but you're like, but it's peaceful. Yeah, and

762
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: sometimes that peace allows you to be a better parent,

763
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: you know, give me give me a half an hour here.

764
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, we were we were freaking out, you know,

765
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: we just thought any screen time was too much screen time.

766
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: But now we've we you know what, Okay, So I'm

767
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: gonna bring it back all the way back to when

768
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: we were little. Right. My television was on all day

769
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: long in the summer, especially all day every day, right.

770
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's any different than you're watching

771
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: a show on the iPad, whether it's a Netflix app

772
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: or a Hulu app or whatever app um, the Disney app.

773
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: I feel like people are so judgmental about it, but

774
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: but we did it when we were kids. It's kind

775
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: of like we didn't have seatbelts. Everyone smoked, you know,

776
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: like when we processed food. My mom put pepsi in

777
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: my bottle when I was like two. I'm sure, I'm

778
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: sure of that. There's no question. I know I did sal.

779
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you just do what you've gotta do. And

780
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of like educational

781
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: apps for when they're little, So I feel like going

782
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: that route is great. But honestly, I feel like we

783
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: did it. So who are we to say, you know, oh,

784
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: you can't have a screen even though there are more

785
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: screens now. I was in front of a screen all

786
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: the time. I wore a video game. Like even now,

787
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: it's tight. You know, Ty gets older in high school,

788
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: he'll wake up and I'll hear you'll take a shower,

789
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: and it'll come down to the breakfast. He won't he

790
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: won't break eyes with it from his phone because he's

791
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: just watching same video media or whatever it is. He

792
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: won't even like anybody, how you doing. Oh my god,

793
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: thank you for saying that, because Max is right now

794
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: the one word like the grunts though, oh my god,

795
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, please have a conversation with me, like did

796
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: you pin them down and get something out of him

797
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: or just try? But but okay, so perfect example is

798
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: um last night I asked him a question about so

799
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: he literally just got Snapchat, just got Snapchat, and I

800
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: have been opposed to it. I did not want him

801
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: to have Snapchat. But it's the way that like kids

802
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: are texting these days, essentially, they don't they don't go

803
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: into their messages app, they go into Snapchat, and that's

804
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: how they're like talking about where they're going to meet

805
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: or what they're going to do for the day or

806
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah, and so he just got Snapchat. We

807
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: have it like on an approval for like the parents approval,

808
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: and Ryan approved it and we didn't talk about it,

809
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, damn it. Like I didn't want

810
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: to give him the zapchat app until um a little

811
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: bit longer. And so I asked him who he was

812
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: talking to on Snapchat, and Ryan's like, dude, like I

813
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: did not. I wouldn't have told my parents who I

814
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: was talking to if it was a girl or whatever,

815
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Like back in the day, I wouldn't tell him who

816
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: I was talking to my phone. You can't ask him that.

817
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: He's not going to say anything. So I know that

818
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: I have to kind of word my questions in different

819
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: ways in order to have conversations with him. But it

820
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: is and I know that I did the same thing.

821
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I did, the one word answers. I did the yeah,

822
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: no whatever. I don't want to talk to you right now,

823
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Like all I want to do is chill um. So

824
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: I get it, but it is frustrating. I just want to, like,

825
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to what how old was

826
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: he when you gave him his first phone? I think

827
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: they were ten or eleven. Yeah, that's what we did

828
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: same for you, Jay's so that's a good I'm actually

829
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: sitting here thinking exactly what I was just thinking Jason was.

830
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I've got a three and a

831
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: half year all he's gonna be four. I don't want

832
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: him to have a phone until he's in junior high.

833
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: And even in junior high, I kind of wish it

834
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: was high school, you know what I mean. So it's like, well,

835
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: I mean the reasoning, like whether it was good reason

836
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: or battery reason we reasonly we gave was because when

837
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: he's out and he's got like sports and whatever, he'll

838
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: be able to practices over some kind of like that

839
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: was the reasoning. Like I don't think it was. But Riley,

840
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: who doesn't have her own phone, who has Molly's old

841
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: one of our old phones, Like you know, she's got

842
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: an iPad, but she also used that to look cute

843
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: and cool. But she will still do the same, Like

844
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: she brings her phones places even though it doesn't work.

845
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Like one of her friends little sisters has this gymnastics

846
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: performance tonight, like this little four year old and she's

847
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna bring it to take pictures. Yeah, that's a perfect

848
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: way to do it. I feel like giving them the

849
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: option to take pictures. And I know there are options

850
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: Bob out there where you don't have app access, Like

851
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: I think you could just like it's kind of like

852
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: a camera with a phone option. But we did the

853
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: same thing, Jason. We did because you know, our kids

854
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: ski and and they were to the point where they

855
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: were going on their own, um you know with well

856
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: maybe with other families at that point, but now they're

857
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: like full on skiing on Vale Mountain, which is a

858
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: huge mountain with lots of terrain, on their own. So

859
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: I feel like for safety purposes, that's kind of why

860
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: we did it. And I can't remember what. Yeah, yeah,

861
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: I just saw that today. Yeah. Riley has one of those.

862
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: She's had one for like a year and she's lost

863
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: it and whatever. But like for me, like if I

864
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: was going to be really honest, that's good enough, right, right,

865
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: that's good enough. But she but she like today she's

866
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: walking over from school and she'll bring that with her,

867
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: but she'll so gizmo does what For people who don't

868
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: know what it is, Oh, it's just it's it's like

869
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: a dumb down. Uh sorry, I'm looking at my Apple Watch.

870
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Dumb down Apple Watch but you can only call people

871
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: that you program into the phone. That's what I love. Yeah,

872
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: throw Graham and Grandpa in there, throw a couple of

873
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: kuncles in there and call out a day like for

874
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: people who like if you're actually like I have like, like,

875
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm not on commission for this thing you buy. You

876
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: buy the thing for like fifty bucks and it may

877
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: cost ten bucks a month. Yeah, right right, By the way,

878
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: I hate that we have to go ahead, go ahead,

879
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, by the way, I hate that

880
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: we have to say that this is not an ad.

881
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, well, like I'm not the modern days. I'm

882
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: not a social media guy at all. And when I

883
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: watch everybody else make a million bucks a year off

884
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: social media and I'm posted, dude, I'm so bad at it.

885
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm so bad. Do you know I don't a little secret.

886
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know. So I gotta asked to do

887
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: this thing for uh to say it was that Areo's campaign,

888
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, And they're like, well, you know, we love

889
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: this and you're a little older and all the stuff,

890
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: and I saw I just made up my own thing.

891
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna do exercising with my son and

892
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm like using them as the weights and stuff. And

893
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: we had to ask our babysitter to help me shoot

894
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: it because I couldn't figure out how to shoot the

895
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: way they wanted this shot. And then I'm like, Okay,

896
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: now what do I do? And she's like, they want over.

897
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: They want overlays where you say some things. I'm like,

898
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: how do I do that? She's like, just give me

899
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: your phone. I mean literally, she was magic. But if

900
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: it weren't for her, I would have never ever done

901
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: anything like that if you were in that world. So

902
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: going back, if you're twenty years younger or even fifteen

903
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: years younger. And I was with the group of the

904
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Bachelor people doing something and they she pulled on she

905
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: pulled on her phone, and she had a list of

906
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty different people that we're gonna pay her a lot

907
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: of money for one post. Oh my god. And it

908
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: was just like a rotation of people that were kind

909
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: to come in and pair. God knows how much I

910
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: mean what we missed out big time. Yeah, I mean,

911
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: but I will say the stress of social media. I

912
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: feel like we did not miss out on it because

913
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: it would again I know, I don't think I would

914
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: have been able to handle it like, I'm sure you

915
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: get this question to Jason, although I know that you

916
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: and Molly kind of wanted to stay away from question

917
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: and answers for a while. Um, but I've gotten this

918
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: question a lot. Is Um, would you have done the

919
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: show if social media had been around back then? And

920
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's really hard to think about because

921
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: people can be so cruel. I remember so many people

922
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: saying that they got death threats and the cyber bulling

923
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: is just out of control. So would you would you

924
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: do it now? Retrospectively? Just even knowing like how mine

925
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: ended in I think people somebody would have probably tried

926
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: to kill me. Oh my goodness, just think, oh gosh,

927
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: with right with your situation and after the final rows,

928
00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: people were mad. That was crazy. I remember, you know,

929
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: it's still funny because I mean, we had chat rooms

930
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: back in the day when we did it that message boards,

931
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: and that was bad enough. So I can't even imagine

932
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: what it would have been like with you know, social

933
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook, and I would have been dude, I

934
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't never I probably you wouldn't. You wouldn't have been

935
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: on a Jason. You would have just turned it off.

936
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: For a month or two months or remember like that.

937
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: When I was on the Bachelor, I didn't look at

938
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: that stuff. But I was on the Bachelorette. Me and

939
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: some of the guys when I was airing, we would

940
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: go on those chat boards. I mean luckily when I

941
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: was on the Bachelor, I was always really favorable. Yeah,

942
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Like I remember reading some of that stuff. I'm like,

943
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: oh god, that would hurt liked I remember it said

944
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: same same with me. I mean I remember everyone was

945
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: it was really nice, and so I was always like, oh, yeah,

946
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: they think I'm funny and cute and they like me.

947
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: But maybe after you're the Bachelor, it's like and they

948
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: want to kill me, especially especially Yeah, I mean they

949
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: hate they hate my voice. And I laughed like a hyena,

950
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: which I do. Oh wait, you know I just realized

951
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: I with that about myself. Yeah, I'm sure it would

952
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: be hard, but like it is, like Molly and I

953
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: talked about this all the time, Like the people who

954
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: make their living off social media now they have to

955
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: live it like it is a job and like to

956
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: post one thing is so stressful, Yeah, so stressful, and

957
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: honestly they do it and with and with kids like

958
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: I you know, we're talking about not being judgmental towards parents,

959
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I feel like when you are

960
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: in that role, like having your kids be part of

961
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: it all the time. We just had Desiree Heart and

962
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: she took her kids. So she doesn't she doesn't put

963
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: her kids in any post anymore. And she removed every

964
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: single photo that she had on her Instagram account or

965
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: on her social media accounts of her kids. She removed everything.

966
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Like if I did that, I don't think i'd have anything. Yeah,

967
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: I posted, Yeah, my kids in my family. That's all

968
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: I post about. But she had no she considered. Okay,

969
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: I didn't know she might be. I think she's the

970
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: probably that finish line would be the o G. Right,

971
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: have you ever gotten um um? I can't remember what

972
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: number the first Alex Michelle, No we got. We think

973
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: he's on the Witness Protection program. Okay, worry about him?

974
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Right right when Molly moved to town. And I'm gonna

975
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: say this as blunt is as I can do it.

976
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, well, he we were out at We're out

977
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: for a happy hour and this is Molly and I

978
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: weren't married, like early in the afternoon, and he walks by.

979
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: He didn't live in but like and like, I didn't

980
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: really know why at first. I'm like, Molly, why does

981
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: that guy looks so familiar? Hear She's like, that was

982
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: the first bachelor? And I was like, he looks ain't

983
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: too heavy to be the first bachelor, And oh really

984
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: he put on some weight. Well, I mean it was

985
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: just like all of us now, like yeah, get older,

986
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: and he was anymore right When I told him, I'm like,

987
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: are you He's like, yeah, I recognize you too, and

988
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: he's like I had to unplug from everything. Although he

989
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 1: was going through, if I remember correctly, he was gonna

990
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: get married soon, and I think he wanted to get

991
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: his face out there for that. And I don't know

992
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: what ever happened or anything, but I don't think it did.

993
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it did because we've we've literally we

994
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. We haven't heard from him

995
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: in years. I had a similar kind of running with him, Jason.

996
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I was on a plane to Cabo and he was

997
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: on the plane or wasn't plane on the way back.

998
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember which one it was, but I was

999
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: going from New York to Cabo and he's he came up.

1000
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, what's up? Man? Couple bash was on

1001
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: the plane and I was like, and it was kind

1002
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: of embarrassing it because I was like, oh, dude, I

1003
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: don't really want to know. He was nice enough. He

1004
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: was nice enough, you know what. Everything. But it's funny

1005
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: because I remember landing and I don't I never saw

1006
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: him again. There was one and like, my only the

1007
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: only thing I knew about. It's ten years ago. I

1008
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: think he was with a company that got acquired by Microsoft,

1009
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: because Microsoft in the Seattle area. Yeah, and he was

1010
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: here for just some conference and then he was gone. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

1011
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's been gone from Bachelor Nation since I

1012
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: said goodbye to him. No, I think after Kiss of Death,

1013
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: didn't he do like kind of like some soft porn?

1014
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: Did you guys hear about this? Google it now? I

1015
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: miss everything. That's okay, that's because you're not on social media. No,

1016
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's on social media. But I

1017
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: do feel like he did some kind of movie that

1018
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: maybe he even directed on his own. Um anyway, well,

1019
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: we'll google it after this and see if I'm here.

1020
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: Oh Jake the Snake, Yeah, he he would probably still

1021
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: would he be at the o G. I don't know

1022
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: what year was he? Do we know what Alley's season? Yeah,

1023
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: so he would be after so the season after Ali.

1024
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: I guess right, he's a G. Yeah. I actually told

1025
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: I told Tris at one time we talked about him

1026
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: on the show and I was like, you know, I

1027
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: met him. I did a thing with him for US

1028
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: Weekly with Andrew Firestone and I and I'm like, he

1029
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: was great that day. You know. But man, when you

1030
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: watched that, watched that back of I mean you talk

1031
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: about the kind of the after the final roses that

1032
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: had bigger impacts like yours obviously was huge in a way,

1033
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: but you were still a gentleman and kind and you

1034
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: know it was because of love, and you know, there's

1035
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: there's so many millions of different ways you can look

1036
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: at that. But when Jake and uh Vienna did that one,

1037
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember thinking to myself, literally, I

1038
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: would want to crawl under a rock. And it never

1039
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: comes out if I were these guys, either one of them,

1040
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: but especially that's what they did right there. Pretty they're gone,

1041
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: right Yeah? Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, Jake,

1042
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: I feel like he's probably still a pilot. I've seen

1043
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: Vienna pop up in my like suggested or whatever on

1044
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: social media before or something like that. I want to

1045
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: say she's a mom now. But um, but yeah, I

1046
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know if they'd fall into the O G category,

1047
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: but I like the G category. Yeah. So he was

1048
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, So he was two thousand ten. So yeah,

1049
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: and Jason, you were what two thousand six or seven? No?

1050
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: I was oh nine, oh nine? Okay, yeah, he was

1051
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: right after me. Okay, all right. Was Desiree before you?

1052
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: I think she was right, she was after you. Yeah. Yeah,

1053
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: that's what I was asking, because you know, her and

1054
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Chris lived in Seattle for a while. Yeah, so we

1055
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: used to get together all the you know, then they

1056
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: moved to Portland, but we used to see him all

1057
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: the time. I know, you guys are always together. I

1058
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: was always feeling so left out. Chris and I used

1059
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: to like, we had this creative idea of like, let's

1060
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: market real estate mortgage guy together and oh my gosh,

1061
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: you should have. I mean, I love what you and

1062
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Molly are doing. I've tried to get Molly. I mean,

1063
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: obviously Molly and I, you know, Jason, Um, Molly and

1064
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: I have been. She's one of the closest people in

1065
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation to me, and I've constantly been trying to

1066
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: get her to do something with her, whether it was

1067
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: a podcast or a business or whatever. But I love

1068
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: that you guys are doing real estate. I think over

1069
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: talking about the Bachelor, like, yeah, totally get that, totally

1070
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: get it. I know people always ask me like, it's

1071
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: probably remember when Jason and I did a show not

1072
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: too long ago with Ben Higgins and we were talking about,

1073
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, getting recognized and all that kind of stuff,

1074
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: And one of the things that we talked about was,

1075
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, like I have people say it to me

1076
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: all the time. Are you so sick of talking about it?

1077
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are supposed to say? You know,

1078
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: someways like no, it's fine, thanks, you know, but there

1079
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: is a point You're like, I don't remember what you're

1080
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: talking about, but I'm glad it. Manact on you like,

1081
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: do you remember when you did this one thing on

1082
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: the horse And I'm like, what, No, I don't recall

1083
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: that a long time ago. Yeah it was okay, Jason, Well,

1084
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming and joining us today.

1085
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: I know you guys are busy, um, but it means

1086
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: a lot to us to get Happy Father's Day, Ryan

1087
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: and Bob and yeah, thank you. Happy Father's Day to

1088
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: you too, Buddy, have a great one and kids, I

1089
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: love you, got it. Take care of Jason, Jason Mesnick, everybody.

1090
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Such a good episode. I know, great long, this is

1091
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: a long episode, but so good. I just love both

1092
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: of them, um, And it's so funny to me, I

1093
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: feel like Mesnick is way more O G than I

1094
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: guess he is, being from two thousand nine. But I

1095
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: guess to me, he's just it's because he was one

1096
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: of the most successful, or at least after the after

1097
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: the final Rose. He has always been one of the

1098
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: people that comes up in conversations as having a lasting

1099
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: relationship after this. Well, such a memorable I mean such

1100
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: a memorable season two with the way that it ended,

1101
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean that's that's something that had

1102
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: to be tough for both of them, the weather, So

1103
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean, good for them, and yeah, and I get it,

1104
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: I I do get it. I mean, you know, I

1105
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: love talking about this stuff because for me now it's like,

1106
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: well it was twenty years ago, why not, you know,

1107
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: but for you know, Canyon was in you know, junior high.

1108
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: Just kidding, I think she was in high school. But

1109
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: but you know, it's like she she doesn't she does know.

1110
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, she didn't watch it, so you know, I

1111
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: love talking about it with her and telling her all

1112
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: the fun stories. But more so it's I mean, for me,

1113
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: it's all about the friendships, right, like the friendships that

1114
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: all of us have made from that show. That's that

1115
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: is especially for someone who did not marry their their

1116
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: person on the show, like you and Jason did. I

1117
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: think for me that's the best takeaway is that thankfully

1118
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you're still friendly with Stella and she's got engaged, which

1119
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: is awesome, and Kelly Joe's probably married already been a

1120
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: guest on our show, so like my finalty, you know,

1121
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: it's nice to have that kind of connection still, and

1122
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, and then all the friendships that we made

1123
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: from other seasons. But yeah, I've always thought that Jason

1124
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: as a serious o G two but man, he's actually

1125
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: he's a little later than us. But I think that

1126
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: Shan Low is an Okay, Yeah, I feel like the

1127
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: o G is like not just based on year, you know,

1128
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: it's not just based on season like Jason was, like,

1129
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: wait is he and o G. I feel like whoever

1130
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of brings us back to that time of more

1131
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: innocence in the show, you know, gives us that feeling

1132
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: um is an o G. So I consider them, I

1133
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: consider Jason and Desiree and me too, Dianna, Jillian like

1134
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: all of those. Yeah, absolutely, and then of course the

1135
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: fairy godmother Tris. Thank you, thank you for telling me

1136
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: that the grandmother and the grandfather bog here signing off

1137
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: from yet another week of our most famous O G fun.

1138
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: Thank you for another great show, trist I love you.

1139
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: You have a great week. To give Brian a big

1140
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: hug for me. He's such a great dad. I will

1141
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: happy Father's Day. Thank you for all the fathers in

1142
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation and beyond. We love you and beyond, we

1143
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: love you guys. Being a dad isn't easy, but it

1144
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: shares a lot of fun. So that's right, all right,

1145
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.