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Speaker 2: It's our social it's ridiculous media soccer in there and

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Speaker 2: There you go, yep, so there we go.

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Speaker 5: Uh, we had the big college basketball choke job.

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Speaker 2: Rob g Duke choked it down. I don't know the

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Speaker 5: Of course, Yukon had to make a basket, the big

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Speaker 2: What just Uh most people were shot yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a tough scene if you're a Blue

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Speaker 8: a member of the Boozer family, because the Duke Blue

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Speaker 8: Devils were up by nineteen points in the first half,

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Speaker 8: Caden Boozer has the ball at half court, tries to

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Speaker 8: Here where bullets mulleins, Yes, brayln mullins. The shot you're

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Speaker 8: gonna hear and see and uh forever like two shining moments.

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Speaker 8: That's it. End of story. Duke goes home. You can't

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Speaker 8: survive third final, four and four seasons. John Shire and

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Speaker 5: All right, And that's where I want to start, John Shire,

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Speaker 5: he should be called John Cryer because people who support

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Speaker 5: There's no reason, John Shire, this is not a one off.

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Speaker 2: Year with a late game collapse.

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Speaker 5: There's a pattern here, and he can go ahead and

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Speaker 5: It's still it's a choke job and the players weren't

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Speaker 5: Ten seconds ago, Kelvin, guess what, you don't have to

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Speaker 5: You don't have to do that, grab the ball, let

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? So when I look at this

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Speaker 5: Nineteen point lead, fifteen point lead at halftime. You got

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Speaker 5: Three years in a row with bad endings for Duke.

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Speaker 5: What is the point of it? At some point. You

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 5: I was all about Hubert Davis being done right. I

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Speaker 5: shouldn't it Why shouldn't John Cryer be sent on his way?

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Speaker 5: And I say crier because you know how many people

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Speaker 5: there's no way you expect to lose that. Go look,

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Speaker 5: if you're a Duke fan, go look at the people

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Speaker 5: could go, look at it. Did you see Hurley's mother?

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Speaker 5: Did you read her lips?

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Speaker 5: You can't even say what she said because she couldn't

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Speaker 5: when they were up by nineteen, but now you think

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Speaker 5: These guys don't listen to these coaches, don't listen to

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Speaker 5: cover for each other. If we're gonna celebrate you when

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Speaker 2: There's no in between. If they survive and win the game,

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Speaker 5: Point lead as long as you win the game. When

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Speaker 5: I'm blaming this on John Crier because he should cry

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Speaker 1: He ain't going nowhere. You might have to start crying.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you who has a locked position. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Coach k hand picked him. He has been

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Speaker 1: They've been fantastic with them. I agree you want to

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Speaker 1: they absolutely want to win these games to get to

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Speaker 2: So I don't deny that.

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Speaker 1: But you can't just let that guy go who's been

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Speaker 1: having so much success so far.

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Speaker 2: In his early in his tenure.

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Speaker 1: He's one hundred and twenty four in twenty five in

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Speaker 2: That guy ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's switch to the other side and that other

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Speaker 1: guy that ain't going nowhere, and that's Dan Hurley and

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Speaker 1: his team. They absolutely snatched the heart out of Duke.

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Speaker 1: To me, I don't look that as a choke job,

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't as if Duke wasn't playing hard, wasn't

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Speaker 1: getting good shots.

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Speaker 2: What happened was Yukon started to make the shots.

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Speaker 1: They were one of eighteen from three, one of eighteen,

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Speaker 1: They make a bunch of shots and that including the

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Speaker 2: He willed his team back in.

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Speaker 1: He punished Duke down low and got his team in

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Speaker 1: There's somebody with a more secure job except for Dan Hurley.

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Speaker 1: now eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Choke job

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Speaker 1: by Duke. They snatched her heart? By you Khan, Rob

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Speaker 1: Shock and Richmond. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: What's up Shock?

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Speaker 2: Then you come on it? Can you dig it?

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Speaker 7: Hey? Hey Chervill, I need you check under that table?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 7: See can they look about les under it? I don't

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Speaker 1: Hey, he's sitting on something now He's gonna try to

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Speaker 2: It might be the Hendy.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, hey, Rob, rob.

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Speaker 7: Man, I'm a die hard Duke fan. I was actually

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 7: Colin was just a more mature team down the stretch.

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Speaker 7: As as a guard your toy, because they get drilled

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Speaker 7: You never do that.

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Speaker 2: If you think that, you know what I mean for you?

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Speaker 11: They got the Brotherhood, billions of dollars investment. That was

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Speaker 2: I want to get you to get up right. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, Rodney and Michigan. You're in the couple

447
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Speaker 5: of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Rodney?

448
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Speaker 6: Oh, I got to.

449
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Speaker 12: Say Blue, Michigan has a chance to pull it out.

450
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Speaker 12: They've had a great season.

451
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Speaker 2: And there was not the women right now they get thrashed.

452
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, you can't have it all with right

453
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Speaker 6: right right right.

454
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Speaker 12: In the final four. But I wasn't watching the game

455
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Speaker 12: and I didn't even think it was a game until

456
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Speaker 12: really late, and I think John tires on hot seat.

457
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Speaker 12: You don't get many chances of Duke to have teams

458
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Speaker 12: like he's had to not win it.

459
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta win it.

460
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Speaker 2: At some point.

461
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Speaker 5: You gotta win like all of winning all of those

462
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Speaker 5: games and doing everybody reading off his his record and

463
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Speaker 5: his stats and they're all great, but you have nothing

464
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Speaker 5: to show for it.

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Speaker 12: In this day and age, you only get so many

466
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Speaker 12: chances before your goness.

467
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Speaker 1: I would agree with you in seventy five to eighty

468
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Speaker 1: five percent of other instances, not not Duke now with

469
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Speaker 1: coach k and not him being a former play I don't.

470
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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, especially if he was not

471
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Speaker 1: winning and they were twelve seeds and all that.

472
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Speaker 2: I give you that. No, you gotta win at some point,

473
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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 5: The idea that he's gonna stay there forever and keep losing,

475
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Speaker 5: you you're kidding yourself.

476
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, it's not like he's losing, dude.

477
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Speaker 1: They were getting into with it Lead lead E where

478
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Speaker 1: they fight or four last year Robbie you and Tom

479
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Speaker 1: old school right. Oh, I'm saying twenty six years just

480
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Speaker 1: started like this is twenty twenty twenty five.

481
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Speaker 5: That's what they said to Tom Mizzol twenty five years ago. Oh,

482
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Speaker 5: don't worry, don't worry about it. He'll get it the

483
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Speaker 5: next year. He'll get it the next year, and he'll

484
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Speaker 5: get it to that ship. And guess what they didn't

485
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 5: get it about Tom Mizel. The only thing Tom Mizzo

486
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Speaker 5: would say, I've been to what ten final fours or whatever?

487
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Speaker 2: So that means that that just means that he can't

488
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Speaker 2: win the big game, right right, Well, the different college

489
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Speaker 2: basketball does that mean, I'm gonna be honest, that's in

490
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Speaker 2: college basketball day.

491
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Speaker 1: Final four does matter. That's very much on your resumes.

492
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Speaker 1: People banners for that. That's what people do when they lose.

493
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Speaker 1: When they're losers, they count final four.

494
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Speaker 2: I would agree with you, you gotta win that one

495
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: championship in twenty six years. Well what about be sorry

496
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Speaker 2: about that one in fifty two years?

497
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Speaker 1: Go ahead and you got two and what eighty ninety

498
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Speaker 1: years between the two of them, all right on the

499
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Speaker 1: way deep terrible, they tervy, terrible, Rob, they make it to.

500
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Speaker 2: The final fourth. Terrible's crazy. D Brown on the way

501
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Speaker 2: right now, Steve the Sager, get your set on what's trending.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

503
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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington week days at seven

504
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Speaker 3: pm I'm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

505
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: and the iHeartRadio app.

506
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Speaker 1: Steve, Thank you, It is The Odd Couple Robin Kelvin

507
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Speaker 1: on the Magic City Monday, Join now by Dee Brown.

508
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Speaker 1: Former Illinois All American point guard Roosevelt University head coach

509
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Speaker 1: d Brown eleven on x D. What's up man, Man

510
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Speaker 1: doing good man? It's good to have you on. Of

511
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: course this time of the season. You Darren Williams, y'all

512
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: boys used to give Michigan some problems. I'm from an arbor,

513
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: so I didn't appreciate how y'all would do is back

514
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Speaker 1: in the day.

515
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Speaker 6: That was all fun games, man, all fun games.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Hey, jump in on this for us.

517
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Speaker 6: Man.

518
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Speaker 1: Rob and I just had an argument, disagreement, no surprise,

519
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Speaker 1: that's what we do here. But he said, choke job

520
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: by Duke. I said, I got to give credit to

521
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Speaker 1: you kN they snatched that game.

522
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Speaker 2: W side Are you on?

523
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Speaker 5: Uh?

524
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Speaker 6: I think they snatched the game. I mean I think,

525
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 6: you know, man gotta take care of the basketball. But

526
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Speaker 6: I mean they wouldn't say that that shot that kid

527
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 6: was unbelievable. Man. I think you KHN really competed at

528
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 6: a high level, you know, due to the being down,

529
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 6: and it was down most of the whole game getting

530
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 6: blown out for them to fight back and to show

531
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Speaker 6: their championship DNA, so I think you kind took it

532
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Speaker 6: from them.

533
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: But d they were one third teams win a fifteen

534
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 5: point leader second half, one thirty four and zero. It

535
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 5: never happened. That's a choke job you got. You can't

536
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Speaker 5: allow that to happen. I'm sorry. I'll give them credit

537
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 5: for making a shot, but if they do what they're

538
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 5: supposed to do and coach the right way, you win

539
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: that game.

540
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Speaker 2: One thirty four and zero. Somebody got to be the

541
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Speaker 2: first route. Jig.

542
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Speaker 5: No, it's just like first, it's just like, do you

543
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: remember when the Pacers beat the Knicks. It was like

544
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 5: one thousand and fifty and zero when that when the

545
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 5: Pacers beat the Knicks in that game. So I'm just

546
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Speaker 5: saying at some point you got to be able to

547
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Speaker 5: secure a game in that situation.

548
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Speaker 6: Uh So that's for sure, absolutely. But yeah, I mean, man,

549
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 6: you called fault man that that's a tough team. Man.

550
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 6: When they got that championship, DNA, they got that. They

551
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 6: will coach like they you know, they think after the

552
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Speaker 6: tournament and what you're saying that that so those facts,

553
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Speaker 6: those numbers, Man, it's the first time for everything.

554
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

555
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Speaker 1: When we look at some of these players in the tournament,

556
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Speaker 1: obviously there's been the young freshman, like a boozer for example,

557
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Speaker 1: in that game, how difficult is it where we the

558
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: fans sometimes look at some guys and we go to

559
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: show win he's gonna be amazing in the NBA. That's

560
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Speaker 1: not always like that, or guys who you know, we

561
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Speaker 1: kind of say, well, I didn't see that coming. Where'd

562
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Speaker 1: that come from? How tell me a little bit about

563
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Speaker 1: the translation from college to pros and how sometimes it's

564
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Speaker 1: not as easy as that we all assume it will be.

565
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Speaker 6: That's definitely a tough transition. But I just think with

566
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Speaker 6: his background as dad being who he is, and the

567
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Speaker 6: trainers and the people we've been around, I think a

568
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Speaker 6: guy like Boozer beas just fine. I mean, they play

569
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Speaker 6: in being South basketball already over there at Duke so

570
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Speaker 6: and I think the coaching and up bringing is gonna

571
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Speaker 6: give him a really good chance to make that transition.

572
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Speaker 6: But it is hard for a lot of guys. It

573
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Speaker 6: is a you go from being the top dogs and

574
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Speaker 6: how you go to the big boy level and everybody

575
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Speaker 6: you know, you're around, the guys you used to idalyze

576
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Speaker 6: it and want to be so some guys do struggle

577
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Speaker 6: to transition. But guy like Bulls, I think he's gonna

578
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 6: be fine because of how he was raised throughout you know,

579
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 6: his life while playing basketball, and his father gave him,

580
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Speaker 6: you know, had the resources around him to make sure

581
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Speaker 6: he was gonna be successful.

582
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Speaker 1: Hey, and let me ask you this real quick, real quick. Rob,

583
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Speaker 1: Me and Rob have said here, we've we've talked about

584
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Speaker 1: it before. Is this word now because you mentioned it?

585
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Speaker 1: If you're not trainer since you were eleven or ten,

586
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Speaker 1: you know, I got a trainer, I got this.

587
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Speaker 2: I'm playing in this market, in this travel league.

588
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Speaker 1: You remember back in the day, if you just hooped

589
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: in your neighborhood and at your neighborhood high school, if

590
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: you were good, they find you and you still go

591
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Speaker 1: to college, go to the pros. It seems like now

592
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Speaker 1: if you don't have a trainer, you're not in this

593
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: youth league, this travel team. Like that's almost a new

594
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Speaker 1: track to get to the pros.

595
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, but it's been like that in other sports. But

596
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 6: basketball is really like that now because if you do

597
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 6: get the trainers, then you do you be around us

598
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 6: at the better competition you've been playing against against, God Like,

599
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Speaker 6: you ain't just playing against you local neighborhood guys. You're

600
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Speaker 6: playing against guys who top ten in the country. They

601
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Speaker 6: got the same you know, access, access to the resources

602
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Speaker 6: and the things you got. So you you need that

603
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 6: competition coming up, and you need to play play a

604
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 6: lot of basketball to get good at it.

605
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: Or your dad is a fading star on one of

606
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: the biggest teams in the NBA. That might help.

607
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: What you're trying to say, right, I just see that

608
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: father the son passed for three the other night. Te

609
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Speaker 1: All I want you to know is I teach at

610
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Speaker 1: USC and not too many guys with average five points

611
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Speaker 1: in college?

612
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Speaker 6: Uh get drafted?

613
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Speaker 2: Get drafted. You'd have to show me the list of

614
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: people there are. Now there's a list.

615
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Speaker 6: How about that? How about the Europeans that come over

616
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 6: that averaging point five in one point game?

617
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Speaker 2: It's crazy. I don't know. I'm just saying I don't.

618
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't know that too many of them. You have

619
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Speaker 2: to give me the name. That's the point.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, man, And that's why they go fifty

621
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Speaker 1: to fifty second and fifty eighth.

622
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Speaker 2: We don't know. That's unbelievable. Who did you pick in

623
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Speaker 2: the tournament to make it to the championship? What two teams?

624
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Speaker 6: I ain't trying to jintun on here. Man, I'm I'm

625
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 6: I'm a huge look like guy, y'all no more than

626
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 6: blue to death, man, love it. I really like Arizona

627
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 6: off the back door to come in. They're really good. Uh.

628
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 6: I know, Michigan been playing really good basketball. I like

629
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Speaker 6: I like the Final four. I like those four teams.

630
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Speaker 6: I think any of those teams can win it. You know,

631
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: they always said about matchups to who could come to

632
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 6: play that night, But I really I thought, you know,

633
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 6: Arizona are a really good team. But if you want

634
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 6: me to give you one now with the way my

635
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 6: boys playing, man Illinois looking really good.

636
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Speaker 5: So just cause that's your school, that's it. There's no

637
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 5: way you can look and not pick them.

638
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 6: It's just stylistically. Man. If they get going, Man, they

639
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 6: got to side they got. They got a championship roster.

640
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 6: And I've been saying that they got a championship roster.

641
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, all for of

642
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 6: those teams will win. I got I told you I

643
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 6: like Arizona from the from the jump. I think they

644
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: got a great NIX. You're young and veteran UH leadership,

645
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 6: and then you know coach Lloyd doing a great job

646
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 6: coaching those guys. I think their depth is really good.

647
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 6: And uh, they've been playing good basketball all year and

648
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 6: making it look really easy. So it's some really good

649
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 6: teams out there. I just watched Michig. Michigan is fast

650
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 6: weekend at the United Centers. Their side, they're shooting, I

651
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 6: mean they, I mean, it's a really good ball about

652
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: to be playing at the elite level all this coming week.

653
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Speaker 1: Here's d Brown, former Illinois All American point guard, Roosevelt

654
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: University head coach. Let me ask you, Uh, you just

655
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: mentioned you said, you know they've got some good mix

656
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: of freshmen and juniors and seniors whatnot, Like, do you

657
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: think we're past the day we're just gonna see those

658
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: typical teams that kind of have freshman guys and they

659
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: grow together and they get better. And is it just

660
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: always gonna be a crop of new people at all

661
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Speaker 1: the big schools, new guys, new transfers. This guy in

662
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: the league where you never had that old continuity like

663
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Speaker 1: your old teams used to have where we saw you

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Speaker 1: Luther head, Darren Williams or whatnot.

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Speaker 6: Now you're not gonna see that anymore. You're gonna see

666
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Speaker 6: guys really utilizing the portal, really exchanging player, the player

667
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Speaker 6: going through production, going for for UH. You know, the

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Speaker 6: older guys that you're the maturity, they're not gonna go

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Speaker 6: with the youth. You're gonna ask them to a few

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Speaker 6: of those guys into the mix. But I just think

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Speaker 6: he's gonna see a lot more veteran or maturity out

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Speaker 6: there with the age. You know, you didn't see it

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Speaker 6: even in football, you know that. You know team this

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Speaker 6: year Indiana was twenty three and a half, right, So

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Speaker 6: I think you'll have a mixture of older guys and

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Speaker 6: friglans a few young guys. Ain't no young team going it,

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Speaker 6: you know, the Cinderella days. I think it's low because

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Speaker 6: because of the you know, the budget that these that

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Speaker 6: these big boys got, they got twenty mini dollar ross.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be hard to compete with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. We talked about it too. I just

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Speaker 2: don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll have schools that have a chance like Illinois,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Iowa was there kind of those I

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Speaker 1: called it like the lower half of the UH conferences

686
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Speaker 1: now because they'll have some money because you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're in Iowa, you got some money per due but

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Speaker 1: the little Wichita states.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see that anymore.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no no. Those days they just

691
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Speaker 6: gonna go. They go in the portal. Man. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: you look at Michigan starting five, they got four or

693
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Speaker 6: five dudes and they team that was one dude that return.

694
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Speaker 6: They got four portal guys and they all miss together

695
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Speaker 6: so well. So you won't see people utilizing the portal

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Speaker 6: and in a big way.

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Speaker 2: As a coach, my question to you is, this is

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Speaker 2: what drives me crazy.

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Speaker 5: If we give coaches credit when their teams win, why

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Speaker 5: can't we give coaches blame when they don't win.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's I mean, that's for me. That's why

702
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Speaker 6: you get paid the big bucks. They they gotta take

703
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Speaker 6: the blame. I respect coaching. I love coaching. When your

704
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 6: team playing really well, you're making the right adjustments, you

705
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 6: recruit the right players, you definitely get compensated, you definitely

706
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Speaker 6: get praised. So when you go out you lose a

707
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Speaker 6: basketball game, you get out coached, or you feel like,

708
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Speaker 6: you know, you make a few adjustments here and there,

709
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Speaker 6: you should definitely take the blame. And it is what

710
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Speaker 6: it is. That's the reason why you get you in

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Speaker 6: that position? Right?

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Speaker 5: My biggest issue is that I hear people all the

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Speaker 5: times go, well, Shier didn't turn the ball over, he

714
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Speaker 5: didn't miss this.

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Speaker 6: Well.

716
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Speaker 5: When his kids were making shots and they were off

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Speaker 5: by nineteen, he didn't make any of those shots either.

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Speaker 2: So I don't understand it.

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Speaker 5: You know, those boozer getting busy. No, but I'm just

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Speaker 5: saying I don't understand it. And I think your d

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Speaker 5: what you just said is spot on. It's got to

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Speaker 5: be both ways. When things are going great, you get

723
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Speaker 5: a new contract, you get more money. When things aren't good, Uh,

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Speaker 5: there's a there's a time.

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Speaker 2: You know what they say, the NFL is not for long,

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Speaker 2: for long livet You know that when you're a coach

727
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Speaker 2: like you've got to forgot it. It's a it's a

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Speaker 2: results business.

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Speaker 5: I say it all the time on the show A

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Speaker 5: Million Times Sports has a short menu wins and losses.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing else.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing else, and it's it's really that simple. And

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Speaker 6: I'm speaking from a guy who's coming off for really

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Speaker 6: you know, really down a year for myself, and I

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Speaker 6: take you know, all responsibility, got it and got to

736
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Speaker 6: be better. I just think you got to take it.

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Speaker 6: You know, accountability in today's game, today's world is lacking.

738
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Speaker 6: You need to take accountability. You need to stand up

739
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Speaker 6: and take you know, if it's the praise, it's the praise.

740
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Speaker 6: If it's blame, it's to blame that you got to

741
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Speaker 6: step up and hold yourself accountable. And I just think

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Speaker 6: that's what you know, since I've been you know, playing

743
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Speaker 6: a game of backball and being around it, I've done

744
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Speaker 6: that at a high level for myself accountable. Make sure

745
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Speaker 6: I'm doing I supposed to be doing. And uh, you

746
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Speaker 6: know it is a win loss that's always always put

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Speaker 6: us on my Twitter if you read it. I think

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Speaker 6: I'm in the competition that see, But I wonder what

749
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Speaker 6: that means like it win is gonna be a lose.

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Speaker 2: Right, no doubt. Hey, well have a bounce back year.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, brother.

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Speaker 6: Man, appreciate you all man, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to have you on again.

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Speaker 1: Man de Brown right there, Dee Brown eleven, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and give him a follow on X your tire reck

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Speaker 1: play of the day on the way plus also Shekel

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Speaker 1: City and uh also Rob has a thought about what

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Speaker 1: the ram should it did? We'll tell you what that

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Speaker 1: thought is next to the Eye Couple Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 3: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: It is The Eye Couple Rob Kelvin on a Magic

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Speaker 2: City Monday.

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Speaker 6: Again.

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Speaker 1: Big shout out to Dee Brown just joined this moment

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Speaker 1: ago appreciate it. We'll have that up on the pod

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Speaker 1: Shekel City.

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Speaker 3: Come Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's daily

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Speaker 3: dicks against the sprat.

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Speaker 2: How I knew that. I certainly didn't do that. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it wasn't because I was traveling on to day. He

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Speaker 2: might have been enjoying the streets a little bit with

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Speaker 2: three on Friday. You're a human. Eighty eight and sixty one.

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Speaker 5: Still got a good right cause I'll take twenty seven

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Speaker 5: games over five hundred second stretches.

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Speaker 2: This ain't the oh and three one and two for

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Speaker 2: two weeks? All right, here we go. Best bet who

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Speaker 2: you got?

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Speaker 5: Got the Celtics minus two and a half plus two

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: and a half, Celtics plus two and a half.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Atlanta in Atlanta. Oh yep, oh yeah, the

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00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: game's on my face right. I've got simber Wolves chimber Wolves.

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Speaker 5: Minus eight and a half in Dallas, and they got

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Speaker 5: the Suns minus twelve and a half against Memphis. So

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Speaker 5: I'm going Celtics, TEA Wolves and the Suns. And remember,

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Speaker 5: I'm not telling you who.

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Speaker 6: To bet on.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you who I bet on.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Man talking to Rodger? I was like, dang,

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Speaker 1: I know, Kate Cunningham is out. They got the Thunder

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: favorite by thirteen and a half against the Pistons. God Lee,

808
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Speaker 1: and that's the second of a night of a back

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Speaker 1: to back for Denver two or not Denver thunder goodness.

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Speaker 2: Well, and what you calls out too? Is it it

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Speaker 2: more than just him? Is it darn out too?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He's out. That's about He's out. He's out.

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Speaker 1: I'm almost positive that's right. I'm about to say, I'm like, uh,

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Speaker 1: that seems a little bit extreme. Hey, you had thoughts

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Speaker 1: on with the Rams kind of gets out something that

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Speaker 1: they had considered during the season, and that was possibly

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Speaker 1: trading Davante Adams. Obviously they didn't, but that was a

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Speaker 1: conversation they said they were kicking around a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I would have made the drey Davante Adams is officially

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Speaker 5: bad luck. I don't know what else to say. I

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Speaker 5: think he's lost is it four or five? Five NFC

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Speaker 5: title game? Because you know they lost to all those

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Speaker 5: with the Packers, I would just five like like.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been to the Super Bowl. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: gotta be sick. Are you saying he's the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: and receivers?

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Speaker 5: I'm just when you add Davante Adams to a team

829
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Speaker 5: you don't think that's gonna be an issue, like seriously,

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Speaker 5: And the Rams couldn't get there because they choked away

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Speaker 5: that terrible game in Atlanta. Probably had they been you know,

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Speaker 5: won that game and had home field, yeah, they probably.

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Speaker 1: Would have beat I could have changed them. They get itchy,

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Speaker 1: didn't they didn't look great down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: They were good.

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Speaker 1: And I also, I think two we realized and I

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Speaker 1: brought it up a handful of times even when they

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Speaker 1: were winning, I was saying, man, Ron, but they gotta win,

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Speaker 1: kind of like the other team in LA, like the

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Speaker 1: Lakers in that, you know, a certain point where they

841
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Speaker 1: were having to win thirty four, thirty two and just

842
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Speaker 1: eke out some games, like man, where's the defense? But

843
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: on paper they had the names. If I gave you

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Speaker 1: the names, you'd be like, ooh, that defense. But they

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Speaker 1: the defense wasn't defensing, you know what I mean, It

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Speaker 1: wasn't defended.

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Speaker 5: The other thing too, is like at one point, I

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Speaker 5: think Chauncey Billups went through that too, where he lost to.

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Speaker 6: No, No, No.

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Speaker 5: They lost to three straight Eastern Conference finals with the Pistons.

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Speaker 5: Then he went to Denver and they went to the

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Speaker 5: Western Conference Finals and he had a bad finals Western

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Speaker 5: Conference Finals, and so he went four.

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Speaker 2: Years in a row where he was to go with

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Speaker 2: the nixt two. Who remember he went to the next

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Speaker 2: Mellow Yeah, Mello brought him over. I don't remember him

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Speaker 2: playing for the next, right, rob Gi Billis was a

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Speaker 2: nick with Mellow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those like bring my dog, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: come on, he's a he's a solid. Maybe that's when

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Speaker 1: he met the game, hanging out Atlantic City or something, just.

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Speaker 2: Saying the wise guys. Maybe allegedly you talk about just

863
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: you were around him like I just never saw that coming.

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Speaker 5: No, Chaunty is about as good as a guest. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: like just a guy that you just would never never

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Speaker 5: in that conversation. It's it's totally shocking. But I have

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Speaker 5: nothing but good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. I was around them, just

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Speaker 2: a bit young kid getting it's going on.

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Speaker 1: That's all of our lives. Everybody's got. You know, things

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Speaker 1: were all working through. Not they're not to be that drastic,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, you know everybody's working through something.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: That when I just that caught me off guard. Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan has something to say. We'll tell you next,