1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:19,028 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:27,228 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football, Bears Packers this week, it's happening. The 4 00:00:27,228 --> 00:00:30,388 Speaker 2: importance of this rivalry is never lost on those who 5 00:00:30,388 --> 00:00:33,068 Speaker 2: are fans of the game, but now specifically this applies 6 00:00:33,108 --> 00:00:33,828 Speaker 2: to Ben Johnson. 7 00:00:35,108 --> 00:00:36,628 Speaker 3: It's a big week. It's a big week. 8 00:00:36,908 --> 00:00:39,228 Speaker 4: We know how important this rivalry is, so just wanting 9 00:00:39,268 --> 00:00:41,668 Speaker 4: to address that. It's one of those that I think 10 00:00:42,228 --> 00:00:44,188 Speaker 4: lives in NFL history. You know, I think it goes 11 00:00:44,228 --> 00:00:47,028 Speaker 4: back for a long time to the most winning franchises 12 00:00:47,148 --> 00:00:50,148 Speaker 4: in the NFL, and you know, I think that continues 13 00:00:50,188 --> 00:00:51,348 Speaker 4: to be the case. 14 00:00:51,428 --> 00:00:52,708 Speaker 3: So it's a big one. 15 00:00:53,388 --> 00:00:55,388 Speaker 2: A lot of Bears logos on the back of that 16 00:00:55,508 --> 00:00:58,348 Speaker 2: backdrop for the Ben Johnson press conference, but none more 17 00:00:58,388 --> 00:01:01,468 Speaker 2: important than that large one that looms beneath the number 18 00:01:01,468 --> 00:01:04,908 Speaker 2: one on the NFC playoff picture. Bears have number one 19 00:01:04,988 --> 00:01:08,228 Speaker 2: overall seat right now, Manti, which is wild times in 20 00:01:08,228 --> 00:01:10,628 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, but here we are. It's December third, 21 00:01:11,028 --> 00:01:13,468 Speaker 2: and the NFC North holds the top spot and then 22 00:01:13,468 --> 00:01:16,468 Speaker 2: it belongs to the Chicago Bears. So, Manti, I feel 23 00:01:16,468 --> 00:01:18,468 Speaker 2: like you've been doing some You're not quite sure. Do 24 00:01:18,508 --> 00:01:19,948 Speaker 2: you want to be the guy that starts off this 25 00:01:19,988 --> 00:01:22,748 Speaker 2: conversation or do you want to run a pass play 26 00:01:22,828 --> 00:01:23,828 Speaker 2: to cobindo ourself? 27 00:01:23,908 --> 00:01:24,068 Speaker 5: Yeah? 28 00:01:24,068 --> 00:01:26,068 Speaker 6: I want to throw to Cobinda because there's beauty and 29 00:01:26,108 --> 00:01:28,148 Speaker 6: the ugliness, as he likes to say, So I want 30 00:01:28,148 --> 00:01:30,228 Speaker 6: to pass into that matter, right, alsors it himself. So 31 00:01:30,348 --> 00:01:33,188 Speaker 6: Jason Cabinda, start us off, my brother, please. 32 00:01:33,668 --> 00:01:33,908 Speaker 3: Yeah. 33 00:01:33,908 --> 00:01:36,428 Speaker 7: Look, there's a lot to love about this matchup. In 34 00:01:36,468 --> 00:01:38,988 Speaker 7: this Bears Packers game, we talk about rivalries. 35 00:01:39,028 --> 00:01:40,308 Speaker 8: Ben talked about rivalries. 36 00:01:40,508 --> 00:01:42,468 Speaker 7: It's a bit of a coaching rivalry in this one 37 00:01:42,508 --> 00:01:44,748 Speaker 7: in terms of Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur. A few 38 00:01:44,748 --> 00:01:47,148 Speaker 7: subliminal shots they thrown at each other. Mantai, I let 39 00:01:47,148 --> 00:01:49,188 Speaker 7: you get into that. But when I look at this game, 40 00:01:49,468 --> 00:01:51,668 Speaker 7: I look at the Bears in this defense, number one 41 00:01:51,668 --> 00:01:53,908 Speaker 7: in turnovers, number one in turnover ratio. We know how 42 00:01:53,948 --> 00:01:56,708 Speaker 7: important that is to winning games. They still extra possessions, 43 00:01:56,868 --> 00:01:59,668 Speaker 7: which is crucial for a great play caller and Ben Johnson. 44 00:01:59,668 --> 00:02:02,148 Speaker 7: When I look at Green Bay, they've held eight opponents 45 00:02:02,148 --> 00:02:05,428 Speaker 7: this year to twenty points or less. You've got Micah Parsons, 46 00:02:05,468 --> 00:02:08,788 Speaker 7: You've got Keyshawn Nixon, Xavier McKinney. These guys are playing 47 00:02:08,788 --> 00:02:11,748 Speaker 7: at a very high level. The thing with Chicago Bears 48 00:02:11,828 --> 00:02:14,508 Speaker 7: right now, this team is clutch. They have our seven 49 00:02:14,588 --> 00:02:17,908 Speaker 7: to zero in one score games this year, so if 50 00:02:17,908 --> 00:02:19,828 Speaker 7: they can just keep this game close, I think what 51 00:02:19,908 --> 00:02:21,788 Speaker 7: this game is going to come down to is who 52 00:02:21,868 --> 00:02:24,148 Speaker 7: is more clutch when it comes to the critical moments 53 00:02:24,188 --> 00:02:27,148 Speaker 7: and the moments in situational football that is two minute, 54 00:02:27,148 --> 00:02:28,788 Speaker 7: that's four minute, that's the end of half, that is 55 00:02:28,828 --> 00:02:30,468 Speaker 7: the end of game. Who's going to be better than 56 00:02:30,468 --> 00:02:32,068 Speaker 7: those moments because this game is going to come down 57 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:32,468 Speaker 7: to the wire. 58 00:02:32,628 --> 00:02:35,188 Speaker 6: Covin and you spoke about defense, and that's rightfully so 59 00:02:35,308 --> 00:02:38,548 Speaker 6: you being a defensive guys as am I, But I'm 60 00:02:38,548 --> 00:02:42,148 Speaker 6: going to speak on what it's offensive, not the offensive 61 00:02:42,148 --> 00:02:44,588 Speaker 6: side of the football. But if anybody remembers and Ben 62 00:02:44,668 --> 00:02:47,628 Speaker 6: Johnson's opening press conference as a head coach of the 63 00:02:47,708 --> 00:02:50,268 Speaker 6: Chicago Bears, he had this to say. 64 00:02:50,588 --> 00:02:54,748 Speaker 5: I've got tremendous amount of respect for the coaches and 65 00:02:54,788 --> 00:02:58,068 Speaker 5: the players in this league, having competed against them for 66 00:02:58,148 --> 00:03:02,268 Speaker 5: the last six years. Dane Campbell, Kevin O'Connell, you're talking 67 00:03:02,268 --> 00:03:04,348 Speaker 5: about two guys that are up for Coach the Year 68 00:03:04,508 --> 00:03:07,548 Speaker 5: rewards as the season ends here, And to be quite 69 00:03:07,628 --> 00:03:11,308 Speaker 5: frank with you, I kind of enjoyed beating Matt Laford 70 00:03:11,388 --> 00:03:12,068 Speaker 5: twice a year. 71 00:03:13,428 --> 00:03:14,228 Speaker 3: So I know we're. 72 00:03:14,068 --> 00:03:16,508 Speaker 6: Gonna look at offensives offensively and defensively. 73 00:03:16,628 --> 00:03:16,828 Speaker 3: Guys. 74 00:03:16,868 --> 00:03:19,188 Speaker 6: The only thing I'm looking for is a postgame handshake, Like, 75 00:03:19,268 --> 00:03:20,948 Speaker 6: how is that going to go? Like we've seen so 76 00:03:21,108 --> 00:03:24,228 Speaker 6: many of these postgame handshakes that got kind of awkward. 77 00:03:24,268 --> 00:03:24,468 Speaker 8: You know. 78 00:03:24,508 --> 00:03:27,148 Speaker 6: We can go back to twenty ten Broncles versus Chiefs 79 00:03:27,388 --> 00:03:29,828 Speaker 6: and Josh McDaniels and Todd Haley getting into the middle 80 00:03:29,868 --> 00:03:31,468 Speaker 6: of it in the field and there's some words that 81 00:03:31,508 --> 00:03:33,468 Speaker 6: are exchanged and it's. 82 00:03:32,988 --> 00:03:35,428 Speaker 3: A little awkward. We can go to two thousand and 83 00:03:35,468 --> 00:03:38,028 Speaker 3: eleven where the Niners and the Lions. You love, this 84 00:03:38,068 --> 00:03:40,588 Speaker 3: could end up being a Lion. You got Jim Harbaugh 85 00:03:40,588 --> 00:03:43,388 Speaker 3: and Jim Schwartz. You know, Jim Harball is an energetic guy. 86 00:03:43,428 --> 00:03:45,628 Speaker 3: He may have hit Jim Schwartz a little bit, a 87 00:03:45,628 --> 00:03:48,188 Speaker 3: little bit too rough and didn't like Jim Schwartz didn't 88 00:03:48,268 --> 00:03:48,628 Speaker 3: like it a. 89 00:03:48,628 --> 00:03:51,348 Speaker 6: Little bit, and there's a little ruckus in for a field. 90 00:03:51,388 --> 00:03:54,588 Speaker 6: And then twenty twelve, John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin Mike 91 00:03:54,628 --> 00:03:58,308 Speaker 6: Tomlin just kind of walks off and doesn't even address Harbor, 92 00:03:58,388 --> 00:04:00,588 Speaker 6: and Harball's like, hey, hey, hey, I told you a 93 00:04:00,588 --> 00:04:00,948 Speaker 6: good game. 94 00:04:00,988 --> 00:04:03,188 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I heard you. This is what I'm 95 00:04:03,228 --> 00:04:03,908 Speaker 3: looking for, y'all. 96 00:04:03,948 --> 00:04:07,348 Speaker 6: Obviously, I'm excited for the sixty minutes KB, of all 97 00:04:07,428 --> 00:04:09,348 Speaker 6: the fireworks that are going to be put on by 98 00:04:09,388 --> 00:04:12,828 Speaker 6: the Barrizona Packers on this weekend, but I'm looking forward 99 00:04:12,828 --> 00:04:13,908 Speaker 6: to that postgame handshake. 100 00:04:13,948 --> 00:04:14,708 Speaker 3: I think everybody is. 101 00:04:14,708 --> 00:04:16,588 Speaker 6: Those cameras are going to be falling their head coaches 102 00:04:16,628 --> 00:04:17,868 Speaker 6: as they meet in the middle of the field, and 103 00:04:17,908 --> 00:04:19,388 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be one of those that's gonna be glued 104 00:04:19,468 --> 00:04:20,468 Speaker 6: KB Manta. 105 00:04:20,548 --> 00:04:22,268 Speaker 3: I was just so transfixed by that. There should be 106 00:04:22,308 --> 00:04:25,068 Speaker 3: a whole network that's just handshakes. I was so into that. 107 00:04:25,388 --> 00:04:28,788 Speaker 9: John Harbaugh straight up pulled him back like a yo yo. 108 00:04:29,108 --> 00:04:30,668 Speaker 3: I've forgotten that one. 109 00:04:30,988 --> 00:04:35,228 Speaker 9: The briefest handshake, of course, was Bill Belichick and Eric Mangini, 110 00:04:35,268 --> 00:04:37,108 Speaker 9: But maam back kid, this is like something out of 111 00:04:37,148 --> 00:04:40,868 Speaker 9: Loudy to It's like, that was crazy. I forgot this one, 112 00:04:41,268 --> 00:04:43,908 Speaker 9: and I don't think Mike enjoyed getting pulled back like that. 113 00:04:43,908 --> 00:04:45,348 Speaker 3: That's a bit of a dunk. 114 00:04:45,628 --> 00:04:50,828 Speaker 9: Anyway, Manjani Belichick incredible handshake as well. I'm glad you 115 00:04:50,908 --> 00:04:53,988 Speaker 9: played that clip, Mantid because that not only is that 116 00:04:54,028 --> 00:04:56,108 Speaker 9: clip of Ben Johnson talking about the floor of the 117 00:04:56,108 --> 00:04:58,148 Speaker 9: clip of the week the second he said it, we 118 00:04:58,188 --> 00:04:59,708 Speaker 9: knew it would be the clip of the week the 119 00:04:59,708 --> 00:05:03,828 Speaker 9: first time they played the Packers. More importantly, the context 120 00:05:03,868 --> 00:05:05,908 Speaker 9: is huge here, and I think this is lost on 121 00:05:05,988 --> 00:05:09,428 Speaker 9: some people that Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur are not friends. 122 00:05:09,908 --> 00:05:11,508 Speaker 3: They don't share a past resume. 123 00:05:11,748 --> 00:05:14,948 Speaker 9: This is not like Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay where 124 00:05:14,948 --> 00:05:16,108 Speaker 9: it's busting chops. 125 00:05:16,588 --> 00:05:18,188 Speaker 3: In fact, I thought the guys on the part Might 126 00:05:18,188 --> 00:05:19,068 Speaker 3: Take did a great job. 127 00:05:19,068 --> 00:05:21,588 Speaker 9: They had Matt Lafleur on and he was like, yeah, 128 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:23,268 Speaker 9: I don't know Ben Johnson. 129 00:05:23,388 --> 00:05:25,268 Speaker 3: And when he said that, I got a bunch of 130 00:05:25,268 --> 00:05:26,108 Speaker 3: texts from a bunch. 131 00:05:25,948 --> 00:05:28,108 Speaker 9: Of people saying he had said it, and I thought 132 00:05:28,108 --> 00:05:30,428 Speaker 9: it was Packers bears, But I guess it's Ben Johnson 133 00:05:30,548 --> 00:05:34,828 Speaker 9: versus mouth like he not amused, completely motivated, and Matt 134 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:37,708 Speaker 9: Lafleur is a fascinating guy to watched this week. Now 135 00:05:38,268 --> 00:05:40,948 Speaker 9: as I sit here outside Oahara Airport in the dang 136 00:05:41,028 --> 00:05:44,668 Speaker 9: robe looking at a parking garage. Here's my credential. Yesterday 137 00:05:44,668 --> 00:05:47,068 Speaker 9: from going to Hallas Hall, I went to the Bears. 138 00:05:47,148 --> 00:05:49,708 Speaker 3: Yesterday. I sat with Caleb Williams. 139 00:05:49,828 --> 00:05:52,868 Speaker 9: He was generous, he was kind, he was interesting, and 140 00:05:52,908 --> 00:05:56,428 Speaker 9: he was locked the bleep in like a business face. 141 00:05:56,588 --> 00:05:59,908 Speaker 9: Business like everything from top to bottom. He was ready 142 00:06:00,028 --> 00:06:03,228 Speaker 9: for Packer Week. And my biggest takeaway from being with 143 00:06:03,308 --> 00:06:08,148 Speaker 9: Caleb Williams was that Ben Johnson is running every facet 144 00:06:08,228 --> 00:06:11,628 Speaker 9: of that organization in that building. His presidence looms over everything. 145 00:06:11,948 --> 00:06:15,508 Speaker 9: Everybody talks about him. Caleb lit up any question I 146 00:06:15,508 --> 00:06:19,028 Speaker 9: asked him of Ben Johnson. Caleb brought up Ben Johnson 147 00:06:19,068 --> 00:06:21,588 Speaker 9: in questions that had nothing to do with Ben Johnson. 148 00:06:21,748 --> 00:06:24,388 Speaker 3: He wants to talk about Ben Johnson. And here's part 149 00:06:24,468 --> 00:06:24,628 Speaker 3: of it. 150 00:06:24,708 --> 00:06:27,308 Speaker 9: Of course, this is after the game they'd beat Philly 151 00:06:27,348 --> 00:06:29,268 Speaker 9: and he goes legend and now everybody had a free 152 00:06:29,268 --> 00:06:34,028 Speaker 9: hot dogs yesterday in Chicago. But every PR person I 153 00:06:34,108 --> 00:06:36,628 Speaker 9: talked to, every person I have known over the years 154 00:06:36,668 --> 00:06:39,748 Speaker 9: in the hallways or the cubicles, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, 155 00:06:39,828 --> 00:06:42,188 Speaker 9: Ben Johnson. I get in the car afterwards I leave 156 00:06:42,268 --> 00:06:44,468 Speaker 9: Pallas Hall. There's the guy picking me up in the car. 157 00:06:44,828 --> 00:06:47,788 Speaker 9: His first question was, Hey, how's the new coach? Not 158 00:06:48,028 --> 00:06:52,348 Speaker 9: how's Caleb? Not how's Munung guy? Not how any the 159 00:06:52,468 --> 00:06:54,948 Speaker 9: new coach looms over everything? And if you watched the 160 00:06:54,988 --> 00:06:57,388 Speaker 9: new coach this week, he didn't want to hear any 161 00:06:57,428 --> 00:06:59,868 Speaker 9: nonsense about where the one seed. He will bite your 162 00:06:59,908 --> 00:07:02,028 Speaker 9: bleeping head off if you talk about whoa you're going 163 00:07:02,068 --> 00:07:03,268 Speaker 9: one see congratulations. 164 00:07:03,468 --> 00:07:05,868 Speaker 3: Also, he had the most pointed quote. I talked to 165 00:07:05,908 --> 00:07:06,788 Speaker 3: Cale about how he's playing. 166 00:07:06,828 --> 00:07:11,348 Speaker 9: But Ben Johnson this week said we are winning in 167 00:07:11,508 --> 00:07:14,948 Speaker 9: spite of our passing game, not because of it, and 168 00:07:14,988 --> 00:07:16,108 Speaker 9: no one is happy with that. 169 00:07:16,428 --> 00:07:18,948 Speaker 3: And Caleb, but I talked about It's like, he's right. 170 00:07:19,148 --> 00:07:23,228 Speaker 9: It's just my biggest takeaway, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. 171 00:07:23,228 --> 00:07:24,828 Speaker 3: They wouldn't let me leave the building. Guys, you won't 172 00:07:24,828 --> 00:07:26,148 Speaker 3: know how big Ben Johnson looms. 173 00:07:25,948 --> 00:07:28,228 Speaker 9: And house Hall. This is the shirt that I got. 174 00:07:29,508 --> 00:07:36,068 Speaker 9: They wouldn't let this shit. Maybe they're handing these suckers out. Look, 175 00:07:36,108 --> 00:07:39,588 Speaker 9: he looks like John Cena meets SpongeBob. 176 00:07:38,868 --> 00:07:41,548 Speaker 3: Like his maniac stuff is going on there. 177 00:07:41,868 --> 00:07:44,948 Speaker 9: He wrote that check about Matt Lafleur and now he 178 00:07:45,028 --> 00:07:46,628 Speaker 9: has to cash it this weekend. 179 00:07:46,668 --> 00:07:48,988 Speaker 3: In Lambeau, dude, it is it's so on. 180 00:07:49,068 --> 00:07:51,148 Speaker 9: This is a great break it Caleb's talking about he 181 00:07:51,148 --> 00:07:52,948 Speaker 9: wants to Lambeau leap, but I don't know if the 182 00:07:52,988 --> 00:07:54,988 Speaker 9: Packers fansil let him like it's it's just awesome. 183 00:07:55,028 --> 00:07:57,268 Speaker 3: I'm so hard enough to be a football fan, Kyle. 184 00:07:57,308 --> 00:07:59,308 Speaker 2: I have I have a really in the weeds question 185 00:07:59,348 --> 00:08:02,028 Speaker 2: for you that you were in the building. Anytime there's 186 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:06,108 Speaker 2: coaching turnover, especially in the guy who walks the halls 187 00:08:06,108 --> 00:08:08,108 Speaker 2: and he's the one in charge, there's always like a 188 00:08:08,148 --> 00:08:11,028 Speaker 2: decor issue. I remember I was in the Jets building 189 00:08:11,068 --> 00:08:13,708 Speaker 2: once and during a recent coaching change, and everyone was like, man, 190 00:08:13,988 --> 00:08:16,428 Speaker 2: these certain stickers are phrases. They were really hard to 191 00:08:16,468 --> 00:08:17,708 Speaker 2: peel off from the last guy. 192 00:08:17,828 --> 00:08:19,188 Speaker 3: Now this guy want X, Y and Z. 193 00:08:19,908 --> 00:08:23,868 Speaker 2: Is what is Ben Johnson's decision making tree on how 194 00:08:23,908 --> 00:08:27,308 Speaker 2: he has wanted to put his messaging out in hallis hall? 195 00:08:27,388 --> 00:08:29,268 Speaker 2: Now that we are thirteen weeks into this, is there 196 00:08:29,308 --> 00:08:31,268 Speaker 2: just a lot of like good, better, best going around? 197 00:08:31,468 --> 00:08:32,188 Speaker 3: Or how's this thing go? 198 00:08:32,428 --> 00:08:34,948 Speaker 9: It's a good question, Jamie, because I sat with Matt 199 00:08:34,988 --> 00:08:37,628 Speaker 9: Abraflus in the head coach's office a few years back, 200 00:08:37,868 --> 00:08:40,148 Speaker 9: and he has a mural behind his desk of great 201 00:08:40,188 --> 00:08:42,748 Speaker 9: bears past, and Matt Eberflus would. 202 00:08:42,668 --> 00:08:44,468 Speaker 3: Quiz young bears and do you know who that is 203 00:08:44,508 --> 00:08:44,828 Speaker 3: new to that? 204 00:08:44,988 --> 00:08:47,828 Speaker 9: So that was his whole approach is appreciate these greats. 205 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:50,868 Speaker 9: I have kind of a non answer here because I 206 00:08:50,948 --> 00:08:54,668 Speaker 9: spent about four hours in Hallas Hall yesterday. I did 207 00:08:54,668 --> 00:08:57,228 Speaker 9: not meet Ben Johnson. I did not see Ben Johnson. 208 00:08:57,468 --> 00:09:00,668 Speaker 9: I didn't ask too. It wasn't offered. I met Matt Naggi, 209 00:09:01,028 --> 00:09:04,308 Speaker 9: I met Matt Abraflus. Ben Johnson it's like it's packer. 210 00:09:04,708 --> 00:09:07,628 Speaker 9: His schedule is very tight. It is all business. He 211 00:09:07,748 --> 00:09:09,428 Speaker 9: is not here to be the one seed and then 212 00:09:09,428 --> 00:09:10,988 Speaker 9: I'll just fade away at the end. I don't think 213 00:09:11,028 --> 00:09:13,228 Speaker 9: he was doing social calls and I wasn't looking for one. 214 00:09:13,348 --> 00:09:15,868 Speaker 9: So Jamie, I got a big TVD for you. The 215 00:09:15,908 --> 00:09:19,228 Speaker 9: whole place was buzzing, but no sign of Ben Johnson 216 00:09:19,268 --> 00:09:20,348 Speaker 9: and I wasn't looking for one. 217 00:09:20,788 --> 00:09:20,988 Speaker 3: Yeah. 218 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:23,588 Speaker 7: Look, I talked about the Chicago Bears earlier this year. 219 00:09:23,948 --> 00:09:25,148 Speaker 8: I got a lot of. 220 00:09:25,188 --> 00:09:27,148 Speaker 7: I got a lot of flag for it because people 221 00:09:27,148 --> 00:09:29,348 Speaker 7: didn't believe me when it came to about Ben Johnson. 222 00:09:29,668 --> 00:09:30,988 Speaker 8: The type of dude he is. 223 00:09:30,908 --> 00:09:35,748 Speaker 7: The extreme details that he carries, the standards that he carries, 224 00:09:35,788 --> 00:09:37,988 Speaker 7: and really the energy and Kyle, you know, when you 225 00:09:38,068 --> 00:09:40,308 Speaker 7: asked him about you know, him being the number one 226 00:09:40,348 --> 00:09:41,548 Speaker 7: seed and him being like, hey, I don't want to 227 00:09:41,548 --> 00:09:43,268 Speaker 7: talk about it. Look a lot of ball left the plate. 228 00:09:43,348 --> 00:09:44,908 Speaker 7: Like that's the kind of guy he is. He's got 229 00:09:44,908 --> 00:09:46,708 Speaker 7: that Kobe like mentality. 230 00:09:46,748 --> 00:09:46,908 Speaker 4: Man. 231 00:09:46,948 --> 00:09:49,908 Speaker 7: And when you look another man in his eyes and 232 00:09:49,908 --> 00:09:53,308 Speaker 7: you can really trust the instincts, you can trust the 233 00:09:53,428 --> 00:09:56,748 Speaker 7: resolve behind his eyes, man, Like Ben's got resolved and 234 00:09:56,788 --> 00:09:58,988 Speaker 7: that's huge. That's what players believe in. And I think 235 00:09:58,988 --> 00:10:00,908 Speaker 7: if you look at Chicago Bears, you look at their culture, 236 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:02,588 Speaker 7: you look at what they're doing right now, the way 237 00:10:02,628 --> 00:10:05,668 Speaker 7: that they're playing, the spirit and energy that they're playing with, 238 00:10:06,068 --> 00:10:09,108 Speaker 7: it's very clear that Ben has already won this locker. 239 00:10:08,948 --> 00:10:09,948 Speaker 8: Room, I think for Dan. 240 00:10:09,988 --> 00:10:11,508 Speaker 7: And maybe it took Dan maybe a year and a 241 00:10:11,548 --> 00:10:13,308 Speaker 7: half or so to win the locker room, and maybe 242 00:10:13,508 --> 00:10:14,388 Speaker 7: Chicago's a bit. 243 00:10:14,308 --> 00:10:15,148 Speaker 8: Of a better situation. 244 00:10:15,668 --> 00:10:17,628 Speaker 7: But when you look at this team and how they 245 00:10:17,628 --> 00:10:21,108 Speaker 7: are playing, the way they're celebrating with each other, the chemistry, 246 00:10:21,748 --> 00:10:23,828 Speaker 7: this is the team I've said to the beginning of 247 00:10:23,828 --> 00:10:25,868 Speaker 7: the year is the biggest dark horse in the. 248 00:10:25,908 --> 00:10:26,668 Speaker 8: NFL right now. 249 00:10:27,308 --> 00:10:28,868 Speaker 6: You know, one thing of that I picked up from 250 00:10:28,948 --> 00:10:32,388 Speaker 6: Kb's the segment that he just did in regards to 251 00:10:32,388 --> 00:10:35,628 Speaker 6: his reaction to what Ben Johnson said saying that, don't 252 00:10:35,668 --> 00:10:37,508 Speaker 6: get it twisted that we aren't. 253 00:10:37,268 --> 00:10:41,628 Speaker 3: Winning because of our past game. That is huge to me. 254 00:10:41,668 --> 00:10:44,428 Speaker 6: Why because I remember when Ryan Polls, the general manager 255 00:10:44,468 --> 00:10:48,268 Speaker 6: for the Chicago Bears, when they drafted Caleb Williams, he 256 00:10:48,428 --> 00:10:51,308 Speaker 6: said that there are quarterbacks that we win with and 257 00:10:51,348 --> 00:10:54,348 Speaker 6: there are quarterbacks you win because of. And so when 258 00:10:54,388 --> 00:10:58,348 Speaker 6: I hear that from Kyle and that reaction and what 259 00:10:58,788 --> 00:11:00,988 Speaker 6: Caleb's reaction to that, I think I look at it 260 00:11:01,068 --> 00:11:01,788 Speaker 6: in the scary way. 261 00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:03,748 Speaker 3: You know, there's the monsters of the Midway. 262 00:11:03,388 --> 00:11:06,348 Speaker 6: And I think it's scary to think that how they're 263 00:11:06,388 --> 00:11:07,108 Speaker 6: playing right now. 264 00:11:07,108 --> 00:11:08,748 Speaker 3: And it is true the run game. 265 00:11:08,588 --> 00:11:13,028 Speaker 6: That they have right for the Bears, it's scary. But 266 00:11:13,148 --> 00:11:17,868 Speaker 6: when you're able to address the pass game, what the 267 00:11:17,908 --> 00:11:20,828 Speaker 6: potential of that offense, what that could look like. Because 268 00:11:21,068 --> 00:11:23,668 Speaker 6: again Manung, Gui and Swift, they're that one to two 269 00:11:23,708 --> 00:11:26,028 Speaker 6: punch that we've been used to seeing with the Detroit Lions. 270 00:11:26,828 --> 00:11:29,228 Speaker 6: But Ben Johnson is right that they're still trying to 271 00:11:29,268 --> 00:11:32,268 Speaker 6: figure stuff out in that pass game, KP. So I'm 272 00:11:32,348 --> 00:11:34,228 Speaker 6: excited to see what this could be like. 273 00:11:34,268 --> 00:11:36,188 Speaker 3: We haven't even seen their best yet. 274 00:11:36,188 --> 00:11:38,228 Speaker 6: Going back to that Saint Jerome quote, we're not even 275 00:11:38,268 --> 00:11:40,508 Speaker 6: seeing it yet yet. They're the number one seed in 276 00:11:40,508 --> 00:11:43,948 Speaker 6: the NFC, and everybody is excited to see those guys. 277 00:11:43,628 --> 00:11:44,748 Speaker 3: In the blue and orange. 278 00:11:44,748 --> 00:11:46,428 Speaker 6: And I know OKP is one of those guys that's 279 00:11:46,428 --> 00:11:48,388 Speaker 6: the most excited, being a Chicago Bears fan when he 280 00:11:48,428 --> 00:11:48,708 Speaker 6: was young. 281 00:11:49,468 --> 00:11:51,668 Speaker 9: You're right, and the quote again the Ben Johnson is 282 00:11:51,668 --> 00:11:54,428 Speaker 9: his media session this week. We are winning in spite 283 00:11:54,468 --> 00:11:56,668 Speaker 9: of our passing game, not because of it, and none 284 00:11:56,708 --> 00:11:58,748 Speaker 9: of us are happy about that. I read the quote 285 00:11:58,788 --> 00:12:01,028 Speaker 9: to Kalb and had him react directly with how he 286 00:12:01,068 --> 00:12:03,628 Speaker 9: felt about hearing that. The piece there's this weekend on 287 00:12:03,628 --> 00:12:05,628 Speaker 9: an NFL network. Can see it there. But here's the 288 00:12:05,668 --> 00:12:07,468 Speaker 9: story of this game. For me, there is a sense 289 00:12:07,588 --> 00:12:09,828 Speaker 9: exactly what you're talking about, Man's Hie, that the Bears 290 00:12:09,828 --> 00:12:12,708 Speaker 9: are nine and three and they haven't really got cooking yet, 291 00:12:12,868 --> 00:12:16,188 Speaker 9: Like Caleb's not really in his stride yet and they're 292 00:12:16,228 --> 00:12:18,868 Speaker 9: still nine and three, so there's this excitement about Well, 293 00:12:18,908 --> 00:12:21,828 Speaker 9: imagine when they really get the passing game going. If 294 00:12:21,868 --> 00:12:24,828 Speaker 9: you're a Packers fan or a Packers player, you're like, well, 295 00:12:24,868 --> 00:12:27,948 Speaker 9: imagine if they don't, maybe this is the passing game. 296 00:12:28,028 --> 00:12:30,308 Speaker 3: Maybe there's not some pot of gold coming at the 297 00:12:30,388 --> 00:12:30,748 Speaker 3: end of this. 298 00:12:31,188 --> 00:12:34,028 Speaker 9: And then to add to that, Coach Johnson also this 299 00:12:34,068 --> 00:12:36,028 Speaker 9: week is like, all right, this is the best defense 300 00:12:36,068 --> 00:12:38,828 Speaker 9: we faced this year by far, the Packers defense. They 301 00:12:38,828 --> 00:12:40,948 Speaker 9: have the best personnel, they have the best set of safeties. 302 00:12:41,028 --> 00:12:43,188 Speaker 9: We have not seen a defense like that this year. 303 00:12:43,628 --> 00:12:46,108 Speaker 9: So I think the storyline we're talking so much Bears 304 00:12:46,108 --> 00:12:48,468 Speaker 9: because I was just there and on and on the 305 00:12:48,508 --> 00:12:51,988 Speaker 9: storyline of the Packers is fascinating because they're the one 306 00:12:52,588 --> 00:12:55,308 Speaker 9: in a Bears Packers matchup. The Packers are seemingly this 307 00:12:55,588 --> 00:12:58,228 Speaker 9: unspoken about team that's unheard of. When's the last time 308 00:12:58,228 --> 00:13:00,188 Speaker 9: that was the case. And the Packers are like, dude, 309 00:13:00,228 --> 00:13:02,468 Speaker 9: we're at home. We're eight three and one, you're nine 310 00:13:02,508 --> 00:13:04,308 Speaker 9: and three. Bully for you. They're only tied. We have 311 00:13:04,468 --> 00:13:07,268 Speaker 9: we scored forty points. I think the Packers are ready. 312 00:13:07,308 --> 00:13:10,028 Speaker 9: I think they are poised. And with all the exposure 313 00:13:10,068 --> 00:13:12,308 Speaker 9: on the Bears and all the expectations and the shirtless 314 00:13:12,308 --> 00:13:14,508 Speaker 9: stuff and the hot dogs wouldn't it be kind of 315 00:13:14,588 --> 00:13:18,068 Speaker 9: poetic if the Packers just smacked them in Lambeau and 316 00:13:18,148 --> 00:13:20,508 Speaker 9: that didn't get the passing game going, and Ben Jon's 317 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:22,508 Speaker 9: got to shake Matt Lafleur's hand after a loss. 318 00:13:22,708 --> 00:13:42,748 Speaker 3: I don't know. Good morning football. 319 00:13:43,068 --> 00:13:45,388 Speaker 2: Now, let's look at the AFC as a whole. As 320 00:13:45,428 --> 00:13:48,348 Speaker 2: we mentioned Patriots, number one overall seed, Broncos at ten 321 00:13:48,428 --> 00:13:52,708 Speaker 2: and two. Now, the Broncos beat the Commanders in overtime 322 00:13:52,868 --> 00:13:56,108 Speaker 2: on Sunday night, which was an absolutely thrilling finish, though 323 00:13:56,108 --> 00:13:59,268 Speaker 2: itcounts as that double digit win where they sit as 324 00:13:59,308 --> 00:14:02,108 Speaker 2: you look at the rest of the AFC, Let's just 325 00:14:02,628 --> 00:14:04,868 Speaker 2: talk about the top, all right. We're going to hear 326 00:14:04,868 --> 00:14:07,188 Speaker 2: from head coach On Payton now to make his case 327 00:14:07,268 --> 00:14:09,148 Speaker 2: for his team, and then we're going to look at 328 00:14:09,188 --> 00:14:11,148 Speaker 2: those two logos that dominate the screen. 329 00:14:12,988 --> 00:14:15,948 Speaker 10: Starts with the bleep and confidence, and that has to 330 00:14:16,348 --> 00:14:18,708 Speaker 10: kind of bearn were in some close games last year 331 00:14:18,748 --> 00:14:21,468 Speaker 10: and our numbers weren't as good. So at some point 332 00:14:21,748 --> 00:14:23,948 Speaker 10: you get to demonstrate it, do it, and then there's 333 00:14:23,948 --> 00:14:26,588 Speaker 10: a belief you can do it, and then you know 334 00:14:26,628 --> 00:14:28,828 Speaker 10: there's that confidence you're going to do it, you know, 335 00:14:29,228 --> 00:14:32,948 Speaker 10: And so but it starts with the execution, and then 336 00:14:33,628 --> 00:14:35,828 Speaker 10: you know it had to happen and manifest itself. 337 00:14:37,028 --> 00:14:38,668 Speaker 3: Manifestation and belief. 338 00:14:38,868 --> 00:14:41,108 Speaker 2: It's all working for at least two of these teams 339 00:14:41,108 --> 00:14:44,148 Speaker 2: in the AFC in early December. The Patriots currently possessed 340 00:14:44,148 --> 00:14:46,548 Speaker 2: a number one seed and the conference after last night's win, 341 00:14:46,588 --> 00:14:49,988 Speaker 2: and the Broncos, as I mentioned too, which team though, MANSI, 342 00:14:50,068 --> 00:14:52,748 Speaker 2: do you believe in more at this point this season? 343 00:14:52,868 --> 00:14:55,628 Speaker 6: Yes, I said that I believed in the Patriots when 344 00:14:55,628 --> 00:14:57,708 Speaker 6: they're the number two seed before the game even started 345 00:14:57,788 --> 00:14:58,228 Speaker 6: last night. 346 00:14:58,268 --> 00:15:00,028 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter where the seeding is. For me. 347 00:15:00,428 --> 00:15:02,588 Speaker 6: All that matters is when you look at this Patriots team, 348 00:15:02,628 --> 00:15:04,708 Speaker 6: they're the only team in the AFC that I trust 349 00:15:04,828 --> 00:15:08,188 Speaker 6: all three phases of their football team, whether it be offensively, defensively, 350 00:15:08,268 --> 00:15:11,108 Speaker 6: or in special teams. Offensively, they got a two headed 351 00:15:11,148 --> 00:15:13,588 Speaker 6: monster in the running back field, like whether you choose 352 00:15:13,628 --> 00:15:15,228 Speaker 6: ro Mandre Stevens in or Trevion. 353 00:15:14,988 --> 00:15:18,468 Speaker 3: Henderson, and similar to what the Bears have with their 354 00:15:18,508 --> 00:15:19,068 Speaker 3: running backs. 355 00:15:19,068 --> 00:15:21,508 Speaker 6: One has the power, one has a speed and explosiveness. 356 00:15:21,508 --> 00:15:23,508 Speaker 6: Then in the past game in the first hour are 357 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:26,668 Speaker 6: covered all those targets that Drake may has at his disposal. 358 00:15:26,748 --> 00:15:27,588 Speaker 3: He's using them. 359 00:15:27,428 --> 00:15:30,948 Speaker 6: Evenly defensively, They're disciplined, they're fundamentally. 360 00:15:30,428 --> 00:15:31,788 Speaker 3: Sound, and they swarm. 361 00:15:32,188 --> 00:15:34,388 Speaker 6: They play the way that Mike Rabol played when he 362 00:15:34,468 --> 00:15:36,588 Speaker 6: was a player, and that's something that is very refreshing 363 00:15:36,628 --> 00:15:40,228 Speaker 6: to me as a defender to see defense play that way. 364 00:15:40,508 --> 00:15:41,668 Speaker 3: And then special teams. 365 00:15:41,908 --> 00:15:43,788 Speaker 6: I mean, just flip on last night's game and just 366 00:15:43,788 --> 00:15:46,068 Speaker 6: see how the special teams unit for the New England 367 00:15:46,068 --> 00:15:49,468 Speaker 6: Patriots affects the game in a positive way for their team. 368 00:15:49,748 --> 00:15:52,348 Speaker 6: So if there's anything between these two and beyond these 369 00:15:52,388 --> 00:15:54,868 Speaker 6: two teams that I trust the most, it is going 370 00:15:54,948 --> 00:15:56,708 Speaker 6: to have to bleed the New England Patriots. I think 371 00:15:56,708 --> 00:15:59,188 Speaker 6: they're playing phenomenally complimentary football. 372 00:15:59,308 --> 00:16:02,988 Speaker 11: Mike g Manti'm glad you mentioned special teams because I'm 373 00:16:03,028 --> 00:16:04,868 Speaker 11: going to answer this question to the second. But we've 374 00:16:04,868 --> 00:16:07,348 Speaker 11: got an unchecked box this morning on Good Morning Football 375 00:16:07,588 --> 00:16:09,588 Speaker 11: that we have to check because we have not shown 376 00:16:10,028 --> 00:16:14,188 Speaker 11: Young way KU's attempted field goal. No, actually he did 377 00:16:14,228 --> 00:16:16,908 Speaker 11: clarify after the game. Let's take a look at the replay. 378 00:16:17,308 --> 00:16:19,908 Speaker 11: Droy Aikman among many who said, I've never seen this 379 00:16:20,108 --> 00:16:24,948 Speaker 11: ever in my life. Now, in fairness to Kup because 380 00:16:24,948 --> 00:16:27,468 Speaker 11: he got absolutely destroyed on social. 381 00:16:27,148 --> 00:16:27,908 Speaker 3: Media last night. 382 00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:30,188 Speaker 11: He did explain after the game that the ball and 383 00:16:30,228 --> 00:16:33,428 Speaker 11: you could see it, the ball was slipping. Jamie Gillen 384 00:16:33,508 --> 00:16:36,908 Speaker 11: did get it down in the end there right, Jackson, 385 00:16:37,148 --> 00:16:39,868 Speaker 11: we are all Jackson dark Ku explained that the ball 386 00:16:39,948 --> 00:16:43,668 Speaker 11: was slipping, so he pulled up. It wasn't like me 387 00:16:43,868 --> 00:16:46,268 Speaker 11: trying to chip from sixty yards out having to go 388 00:16:46,388 --> 00:16:46,948 Speaker 11: over something. 389 00:16:46,948 --> 00:16:48,508 Speaker 8: He just hit the grass. 390 00:16:49,068 --> 00:16:52,588 Speaker 11: Uh, it was Coup intentionally pulling up. That being said, 391 00:16:54,068 --> 00:16:57,428 Speaker 11: that is a pretty horrible low light. I guess you 392 00:16:57,428 --> 00:17:00,508 Speaker 11: could call it. Okay, Yes, back to the back to 393 00:17:00,548 --> 00:17:02,068 Speaker 11: the question I had, as. 394 00:17:03,308 --> 00:17:07,988 Speaker 2: You don't believe in make and letting the special team 395 00:17:08,068 --> 00:17:11,108 Speaker 2: malfunctions of the Giants going by the wayside. Editorially, we 396 00:17:11,468 --> 00:17:12,588 Speaker 2: believe in bringing that up. 397 00:17:12,588 --> 00:17:14,828 Speaker 3: We have to cover that. Who do you believe in? More? 398 00:17:15,028 --> 00:17:16,908 Speaker 3: Top two seeds in the AFC. 399 00:17:16,668 --> 00:17:18,668 Speaker 2: MIC g come on the Denver Broncos. 400 00:17:18,708 --> 00:17:21,068 Speaker 11: You know you sort of asked us this question last week, Jamie, 401 00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:23,748 Speaker 11: in the middle of a segment, a little spin off discussion, 402 00:17:23,788 --> 00:17:25,028 Speaker 11: you said, who's the most complete team? 403 00:17:25,108 --> 00:17:26,508 Speaker 3: Or maybe it was this, who do you believe in? 404 00:17:26,548 --> 00:17:27,188 Speaker 3: Who you trust? 405 00:17:27,428 --> 00:17:29,628 Speaker 11: I'm going Broncos and the reason I'm going Broncos is 406 00:17:29,628 --> 00:17:32,228 Speaker 11: because every time you think that there's a complete team 407 00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:34,268 Speaker 11: in the NFL this year, the rug is pulled out 408 00:17:34,268 --> 00:17:37,228 Speaker 11: from underneath. So with that being said, I can only 409 00:17:37,308 --> 00:17:38,788 Speaker 11: go on two things. 410 00:17:38,868 --> 00:17:40,148 Speaker 3: Who's playing really good. 411 00:17:40,028 --> 00:17:43,148 Speaker 11: Defense that's the Broncos, and who's making the plays when 412 00:17:43,148 --> 00:17:46,028 Speaker 11: they matter the most this year for the Broncos, five 413 00:17:46,348 --> 00:17:49,988 Speaker 11: fourth quarter comebacks and now because of this, a six 414 00:17:50,468 --> 00:17:53,668 Speaker 11: game winning drive for the Denver Broncos. So they're the 415 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:55,668 Speaker 11: ones that to me, are finding ways to win in 416 00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:58,908 Speaker 11: the fourth quarter, making or executing the way that you. 417 00:17:58,908 --> 00:18:01,068 Speaker 3: Have to down the stretching game. So I'm going to Denver 418 00:18:01,068 --> 00:18:01,748 Speaker 3: Broncos winnings. 419 00:18:02,588 --> 00:18:04,868 Speaker 12: Yeah, for me, it's the Houston Texas on a four 420 00:18:04,988 --> 00:18:07,108 Speaker 12: game will win the streak that's seven to five, and 421 00:18:07,148 --> 00:18:10,468 Speaker 12: they've had significant wins to talk about Jags, Titans, Bills 422 00:18:10,508 --> 00:18:13,028 Speaker 12: and now a big win against the Colts. And when 423 00:18:13,028 --> 00:18:15,588 Speaker 12: you talk about this defense right now, they're humming. 424 00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:15,748 Speaker 11: Man. 425 00:18:15,788 --> 00:18:18,308 Speaker 3: They're great, and especially off the Edgins with Will. 426 00:18:18,108 --> 00:18:20,588 Speaker 12: Anderson the nail hunter, and even the interior of that 427 00:18:20,628 --> 00:18:22,468 Speaker 12: defense line or led by Sheldon. 428 00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:23,788 Speaker 3: Rakens, they're a complete outfit. 429 00:18:23,828 --> 00:18:25,788 Speaker 12: And what I love about the Texas right now she 430 00:18:26,068 --> 00:18:28,068 Speaker 12: just Stroud doesn't have to be the end all be all. 431 00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:30,188 Speaker 3: He just doesn't have to. He just can't crash the car. 432 00:18:30,548 --> 00:18:32,988 Speaker 12: He simply has to manage the game and play competent 433 00:18:33,028 --> 00:18:34,588 Speaker 12: football and the defense will take care. 434 00:18:34,508 --> 00:18:36,868 Speaker 3: Of the rest. When you're able to suppress. 435 00:18:36,948 --> 00:18:41,108 Speaker 12: The Indianapolis coach to under twenty points, that's a sign. 436 00:18:41,148 --> 00:18:42,148 Speaker 3: That's a statement game. 437 00:18:42,228 --> 00:18:45,148 Speaker 12: Now they have a big opportunity to put the dagger 438 00:18:45,188 --> 00:18:48,228 Speaker 12: into Kansas City Chiefs and put them to rest for 439 00:18:48,268 --> 00:18:50,988 Speaker 12: the rest of the season. I can't wait to see 440 00:18:50,988 --> 00:18:51,468 Speaker 12: that game. 441 00:18:51,548 --> 00:18:52,348 Speaker 3: I'm excited about. 442 00:18:52,388 --> 00:18:54,188 Speaker 12: That's probably the biggest game I want to see this 443 00:18:54,308 --> 00:18:57,188 Speaker 12: outside of the Steelers of Ravens, of course, but the 444 00:18:57,268 --> 00:19:00,188 Speaker 12: Texas and Chiefs. Man, the Texans have a big opportunity 445 00:19:00,268 --> 00:19:02,228 Speaker 12: to put the Patty Mahomes to the Chiefs the rest. 446 00:19:02,468 --> 00:19:04,828 Speaker 12: And listen, if you're the Texas right now, they're probably 447 00:19:04,868 --> 00:19:06,948 Speaker 12: the hottest, ample dangerous team in the NFL. 448 00:19:07,268 --> 00:19:08,148 Speaker 3: I'll put my hand. 449 00:19:08,028 --> 00:19:10,668 Speaker 2: Up and say the AFC South is the division that 450 00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:13,028 Speaker 2: I am most obsessed with down the stretch. Is anybody 451 00:19:13,028 --> 00:19:15,748 Speaker 2: going to make a claim for another division as a whole? 452 00:19:16,028 --> 00:19:18,668 Speaker 2: Because this thing we talked to Leam Cohen last hour, 453 00:19:18,948 --> 00:19:21,348 Speaker 2: the Jags look really fun. What is happening with the 454 00:19:21,348 --> 00:19:23,548 Speaker 2: Coldsman side? Do you have another division that you want 455 00:19:23,588 --> 00:19:25,108 Speaker 2: to say other than the AFC South, because that's the 456 00:19:25,108 --> 00:19:27,548 Speaker 2: one I'm saying TOFC, you're saying, no, no, any division. 457 00:19:27,828 --> 00:19:30,308 Speaker 3: I think the NFC North to me is very intriguing. 458 00:19:30,508 --> 00:19:31,988 Speaker 6: I think that's the one with the Bears being a 459 00:19:32,068 --> 00:19:34,148 Speaker 6: number one overall seed, but then you also have the 460 00:19:34,188 --> 00:19:36,788 Speaker 6: Eagles that are trying to figure out things there. The 461 00:19:36,868 --> 00:19:39,588 Speaker 6: Vikings are there, they're trying to put. 462 00:19:39,388 --> 00:19:41,028 Speaker 3: Out fires out there. 463 00:19:41,228 --> 00:19:43,668 Speaker 6: But the Green Bay Packers with that defense and with 464 00:19:43,788 --> 00:19:47,348 Speaker 6: Jordan Love how he plays late and around this time 465 00:19:47,348 --> 00:19:49,588 Speaker 6: of the year, I think the NFC North, off the 466 00:19:49,588 --> 00:19:50,948 Speaker 6: top of my head, would be one for me to 467 00:19:50,948 --> 00:19:51,428 Speaker 6: watch out for. 468 00:19:51,868 --> 00:19:54,748 Speaker 11: I'm going to go NFC West on this one. Our 469 00:19:54,828 --> 00:19:58,068 Speaker 11: Gudy Battista on The Insiders podcast yesterday made a case 470 00:19:58,108 --> 00:19:59,828 Speaker 11: for Kyle Shanahan to be Coach of the Year. 471 00:19:59,868 --> 00:20:00,828 Speaker 8: I've got a vote, you know. 472 00:20:00,788 --> 00:20:02,588 Speaker 11: What, I think I might give it to Kyle Shanahan 473 00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:05,068 Speaker 11: right now. Thankfully we get to see how it plays 474 00:20:05,108 --> 00:20:07,468 Speaker 11: out down the stretch. But given everything he's had to 475 00:20:07,468 --> 00:20:09,908 Speaker 11: deal with from an injury perspective from his quarterback all 476 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:11,828 Speaker 11: the way through his defense that's been wrecked. They still 477 00:20:11,828 --> 00:20:13,828 Speaker 11: don't have their two key players back there the way 478 00:20:13,908 --> 00:20:15,948 Speaker 11: that they're humming. And by the way, Seattle and the 479 00:20:16,028 --> 00:20:17,028 Speaker 11: Rams are really good too. 480 00:20:17,388 --> 00:20:17,828 Speaker 3: Anything. 481 00:20:18,228 --> 00:20:21,068 Speaker 12: Yeah, I secretly fall in love with the NFC south Man. 482 00:20:21,108 --> 00:20:24,228 Speaker 12: The Carolina Panthers are leading the division, especially after the 483 00:20:24,268 --> 00:20:26,268 Speaker 12: season the Bucks had. I thought the Bucks are going 484 00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:27,908 Speaker 12: to run away with the division. But now you see 485 00:20:27,948 --> 00:20:30,828 Speaker 12: brace Young pretty much defeated Rams at home and put 486 00:20:30,908 --> 00:20:32,028 Speaker 12: up a signature win. Man. 487 00:20:32,148 --> 00:20:32,708 Speaker 3: I'm interested. 488 00:20:32,748 --> 00:20:35,348 Speaker 12: I'm interested to see how that's uh, that division ends out. 489 00:20:35,428 --> 00:20:37,668 Speaker 2: I said this yesterday, first time in NFL history. There 490 00:20:37,668 --> 00:20:41,508 Speaker 2: are five divisions with a lead of just under a game. 491 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:44,868 Speaker 2: So it's you could pick anyone, pick any card, any card, 492 00:20:44,868 --> 00:20:47,068 Speaker 2: and it will become magic as the season comes down, 493 00:20:47,188 --> 00:20:48,228 Speaker 2: especially the regular season. 494 00:20:48,268 --> 00:21:04,708 Speaker 13: It's exactly right. 495 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,268 Speaker 6: This week's edition of That was Major focuses on the 496 00:21:12,308 --> 00:21:16,348 Speaker 6: Cowboys defense and the massive turnaround they've made since Week eleven. 497 00:21:17,028 --> 00:21:20,148 Speaker 6: On October twelfth, nineteen eighty nine, the Dallas Cowboys traded 498 00:21:20,148 --> 00:21:23,268 Speaker 6: herschel Walker to the Minnesota Vikings, which is widely considered 499 00:21:23,628 --> 00:21:27,748 Speaker 6: the largest trade not only in NFL, but in professional sports. 500 00:21:28,348 --> 00:21:31,348 Speaker 6: On August twenty eighth of this year, history, at least 501 00:21:31,388 --> 00:21:35,708 Speaker 6: Cowboy history, would repeat itself. After months of contract disagreements, 502 00:21:36,028 --> 00:21:39,228 Speaker 6: the Cowboys traded their star defensive player, Michael Parsons to 503 00:21:39,268 --> 00:21:43,068 Speaker 6: the Green Bay Packers. In return, the Cowboys received three 504 00:21:43,148 --> 00:21:46,548 Speaker 6: time Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kenny Clark and two first 505 00:21:46,628 --> 00:21:49,868 Speaker 6: round picks. Yet, the overall reaction to the trade from 506 00:21:49,988 --> 00:21:53,748 Speaker 6: NFL fans and critics alike stretch from anger to bewilderment. 507 00:21:54,428 --> 00:21:57,308 Speaker 6: How could trading away your best defensive player make your 508 00:21:57,348 --> 00:22:00,708 Speaker 6: team better, especially on a defense that didn't have a 509 00:22:00,708 --> 00:22:03,748 Speaker 6: lot of veteran players to begin with. Sounds a lot 510 00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:06,188 Speaker 6: like what was being said when they traded for herschel 511 00:22:06,188 --> 00:22:11,268 Speaker 6: Walker or traded away Hershelwalker. But as everyone is, but 512 00:22:11,348 --> 00:22:13,708 Speaker 6: as everyone knows, Jerry always had a plan. 513 00:22:15,548 --> 00:22:19,508 Speaker 14: We did think it was in the best interest of 514 00:22:19,548 --> 00:22:24,428 Speaker 14: our organization, not only the future but right now this season. 515 00:22:25,068 --> 00:22:27,708 Speaker 14: But the facts are, we need to stop the run 516 00:22:28,108 --> 00:22:30,308 Speaker 14: and we haven't been able to stop the run at 517 00:22:30,388 --> 00:22:34,548 Speaker 14: key times for several years. And a little bit of 518 00:22:34,588 --> 00:22:37,948 Speaker 14: the way. Herschel Walker may have had his greatest contribution 519 00:22:38,108 --> 00:22:41,228 Speaker 14: to the Cowboys. What he brought to us when he 520 00:22:41,348 --> 00:22:45,788 Speaker 14: left could be a tremendous thing for our fans and 521 00:22:45,828 --> 00:22:48,508 Speaker 14: the success of this team. 522 00:22:48,108 --> 00:22:50,708 Speaker 6: Whether you were as hopefully as Jerry Jones was or not. 523 00:22:50,868 --> 00:22:53,668 Speaker 6: The first nine weeks of the season but trouble even 524 00:22:53,748 --> 00:22:55,828 Speaker 6: the most faithful of Cowboy fans. 525 00:22:56,028 --> 00:22:57,188 Speaker 3: Entering their Week ten. 526 00:22:57,148 --> 00:23:01,428 Speaker 6: By the Cowboys defensives ranked thirty first in yards per game, 527 00:23:01,508 --> 00:23:05,308 Speaker 6: surrending nearly four hundred yards to their opponents, all while 528 00:23:05,348 --> 00:23:09,028 Speaker 6: allowing a whopping thirty one points per game, which also 529 00:23:09,108 --> 00:23:11,028 Speaker 6: ranks thirty first in the league. 530 00:23:11,428 --> 00:23:12,868 Speaker 3: It didn't matter that Dak. 531 00:23:12,668 --> 00:23:16,188 Speaker 6: And the offense was scoringly nearly thirty points in the game, 532 00:23:16,268 --> 00:23:19,468 Speaker 6: ranking them second in the NFL, their defense couldn't get 533 00:23:19,508 --> 00:23:23,268 Speaker 6: a stop. Heading into their bye week, the Cowboys record 534 00:23:23,348 --> 00:23:27,228 Speaker 6: was three five and one. In the history of the NFL, 535 00:23:27,268 --> 00:23:29,508 Speaker 6: do you know how many teams averaged at least twenty 536 00:23:29,588 --> 00:23:31,868 Speaker 6: nine points per game in their first nine games yet 537 00:23:31,908 --> 00:23:32,748 Speaker 6: won fewer. 538 00:23:32,468 --> 00:23:36,948 Speaker 3: Than four of them? One just one the twenty twenty 539 00:23:36,988 --> 00:23:38,828 Speaker 3: five Dallas Cowboys. That's it. 540 00:23:39,708 --> 00:23:43,148 Speaker 6: Yet, like I mentioned in the beginning, history would repeat 541 00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:45,628 Speaker 6: itself and Jerry Jones would show that he had another 542 00:23:45,828 --> 00:23:49,548 Speaker 6: ace up his sleeve. Remember those five players from Minnesota 543 00:23:49,548 --> 00:23:52,108 Speaker 6: that the Cowboys received as part of the herschel Walker 544 00:23:52,148 --> 00:23:54,588 Speaker 6: trade that they ended up moving on from and in 545 00:23:54,628 --> 00:23:58,988 Speaker 6: return helped them get guys like Emmett Smith, Russell Darren Woodson, 546 00:23:59,028 --> 00:24:03,108 Speaker 6: and Russell Maryland Well. On November fourth, the Dallas Cowboys 547 00:24:03,148 --> 00:24:06,308 Speaker 6: would trade for Logan Wilson from the Cincinnati Bengals and 548 00:24:06,428 --> 00:24:07,708 Speaker 6: Quinnin Williams. 549 00:24:07,348 --> 00:24:08,628 Speaker 3: From the New York Jets. 550 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,468 Speaker 6: The Cowboys would use one of those twenty twenty seven 551 00:24:11,548 --> 00:24:14,508 Speaker 6: first round picks from the Parsons trade to acquire one 552 00:24:14,508 --> 00:24:17,748 Speaker 6: of the best interior D linemen in the game. Now, 553 00:24:17,788 --> 00:24:21,388 Speaker 6: how has that farred for them Cowboys? Well, since Slogan 554 00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:25,708 Speaker 6: Wilson and Quinn and Williams' debut, the Cowboys defense is 555 00:24:25,788 --> 00:24:29,828 Speaker 6: allowing sixty nine rush yards per game, that second in 556 00:24:29,868 --> 00:24:33,068 Speaker 6: the NFL. Before the trade, they were allowing one hundred 557 00:24:33,068 --> 00:24:35,668 Speaker 6: and four to three yards per game, the fourth most. 558 00:24:36,268 --> 00:24:39,828 Speaker 6: Since the trade, the Cowboys defense has tallied twenty five 559 00:24:39,948 --> 00:24:42,948 Speaker 6: QB hits, which ranked second. The only defense to have 560 00:24:43,068 --> 00:24:45,748 Speaker 6: more is the Cleveland Browns with Miles Garrett, who's on 561 00:24:45,828 --> 00:24:46,708 Speaker 6: pace to break. 562 00:24:46,468 --> 00:24:47,908 Speaker 3: The single season sack record. 563 00:24:48,708 --> 00:24:52,468 Speaker 6: Since with kay Levan, Quinn Williams, is on the Quinn 564 00:24:52,588 --> 00:24:55,708 Speaker 6: Williams is on the field, the Cowboys have pressured opponents 565 00:24:55,708 --> 00:24:57,028 Speaker 6: on forty four percent. 566 00:24:56,748 --> 00:24:59,388 Speaker 3: Of dropbacks, which would be the highest. 567 00:24:59,068 --> 00:25:02,668 Speaker 6: In the NFL this season when he wasn't dead Last, 568 00:25:03,548 --> 00:25:06,668 Speaker 6: most importantly, NS Week eleven, the Cowboys are three and zero, 569 00:25:06,948 --> 00:25:09,828 Speaker 6: the most impressive wins being the last two, with the 570 00:25:09,868 --> 00:25:12,868 Speaker 6: Cowboys beat both Super Bowl teams, the Eagles and the 571 00:25:12,948 --> 00:25:15,268 Speaker 6: Chiefs in the span of five days. 572 00:25:16,068 --> 00:25:19,428 Speaker 3: Coming out of there by, the Dallas Cowboys. 573 00:25:18,948 --> 00:25:22,468 Speaker 6: Had a four percent chance of making the playoffs. After 574 00:25:22,468 --> 00:25:26,148 Speaker 6: the last three weeks, they have quadrupled their playoff probability. 575 00:25:26,748 --> 00:25:28,828 Speaker 6: No matter if they make it to the playoffs or not, 576 00:25:29,188 --> 00:25:32,188 Speaker 6: there is no denying the major impact that the trade 577 00:25:32,188 --> 00:25:34,788 Speaker 6: for Logan Wilson and Quinman Williams. 578 00:25:34,428 --> 00:25:37,388 Speaker 3: Has had on the Cowboys defense. Looks like that gambler 579 00:25:37,468 --> 00:25:38,708 Speaker 3: knew what he was doing. After all. 580 00:25:39,188 --> 00:25:42,628 Speaker 6: What's major is they haven't seen an innovate yet. Let's 581 00:25:42,668 --> 00:25:47,188 Speaker 6: go ask the fan day Cobrat. I know we talked 582 00:25:47,228 --> 00:25:51,268 Speaker 6: a lot about this Cowboys team, especially during the offseason 583 00:25:51,548 --> 00:25:53,668 Speaker 6: when they traded for George Pickens. I know you were 584 00:25:53,708 --> 00:25:57,988 Speaker 6: talking about Jerry Jones and that reaction. How has things 585 00:25:58,028 --> 00:26:00,868 Speaker 6: been for you see Jerry Jones kind of play these 586 00:26:00,908 --> 00:26:03,908 Speaker 6: cars out as the season has gone by, or acquiring 587 00:26:03,948 --> 00:26:07,348 Speaker 6: guys Quinn Williams to a Cowboys defense that was really 588 00:26:07,388 --> 00:26:09,708 Speaker 6: struggling and now it looks like they're one of the 589 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:10,428 Speaker 6: best in the league. 590 00:26:10,628 --> 00:26:12,668 Speaker 9: I love it because I love any time a tired 591 00:26:12,748 --> 00:26:15,468 Speaker 9: trope is flipped in its head and the idea that well, 592 00:26:15,588 --> 00:26:18,028 Speaker 9: Jerry's lost it, he's drunk with power. 593 00:26:18,508 --> 00:26:19,148 Speaker 3: What is he doing? 594 00:26:19,548 --> 00:26:21,188 Speaker 9: This has been really cool and I like that the 595 00:26:21,228 --> 00:26:25,428 Speaker 9: Cowboys are suddenly this scrappy underdog flowing to the playoffs. 596 00:26:25,468 --> 00:26:27,548 Speaker 9: It's like they're like a twelve seed in the tournament 597 00:26:27,628 --> 00:26:29,828 Speaker 9: or something like that, and you're rooting for him. It's fun. 598 00:26:29,908 --> 00:26:33,948 Speaker 9: It's really fun. And listen herschel Walker trade launched a 599 00:26:34,028 --> 00:26:36,348 Speaker 9: dynasty in three Super Bowl championships. I don't think this 600 00:26:36,388 --> 00:26:38,308 Speaker 9: is going to be that, but the fact that it's working, 601 00:26:38,428 --> 00:26:39,108 Speaker 9: it's fun to watch. 602 00:26:39,108 --> 00:26:41,228 Speaker 3: And I also think a name that needs a lot. 603 00:26:41,068 --> 00:26:43,988 Speaker 9: Of credit about that defense and deserves it is Matt Ebraflus. 604 00:26:44,308 --> 00:26:47,148 Speaker 9: Matt Ebraflus, there's nothing wrong with being a really good coordinator, 605 00:26:47,188 --> 00:26:49,108 Speaker 9: There's nothing at all. It is a guy who gets 606 00:26:49,108 --> 00:26:51,948 Speaker 9: fired last year, as you should have and has now 607 00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:54,708 Speaker 9: had to watch Ben Johnson be every single thing that 608 00:26:54,788 --> 00:26:57,068 Speaker 9: Bears fans hope that Matt Eberflus would be up to, 609 00:26:57,148 --> 00:27:00,948 Speaker 9: and including Ben Johnson beating the Dallas Cowboys this year as. 610 00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:02,188 Speaker 3: Eberflus stood on the sideline. 611 00:27:02,228 --> 00:27:04,588 Speaker 9: So the fact that he's got this defense going doing 612 00:27:04,588 --> 00:27:06,068 Speaker 9: it with the players that Jerry got for him is 613 00:27:06,068 --> 00:27:06,988 Speaker 9: a feel good story. 614 00:27:07,188 --> 00:27:07,508 Speaker 3: Somehow. 615 00:27:07,588 --> 00:27:09,588 Speaker 9: The Cowboys, who are looked at as the evil Empire, 616 00:27:09,588 --> 00:27:12,268 Speaker 9: are a feel good team. It's my most favorite Cowboys 617 00:27:12,268 --> 00:27:13,708 Speaker 9: team in years, and I'm rotive for them to make 618 00:27:13,748 --> 00:27:14,388 Speaker 9: the playoffs. 619 00:27:14,708 --> 00:27:16,948 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this is an awesome trade. 620 00:27:16,988 --> 00:27:19,268 Speaker 7: To be real with you, man, Tie, And I think 621 00:27:19,308 --> 00:27:21,508 Speaker 7: the reality is, you know, I think the thing that 622 00:27:21,548 --> 00:27:23,668 Speaker 7: people didn't like about this trade and everything was going 623 00:27:23,668 --> 00:27:25,948 Speaker 7: on was everything that was playing out in the public eye. 624 00:27:25,948 --> 00:27:27,388 Speaker 8: I don't think it was necessarily. 625 00:27:26,988 --> 00:27:29,068 Speaker 7: That people didn't agree with some of the things that 626 00:27:29,188 --> 00:27:31,228 Speaker 7: Jerry Jones maybe thought about Micah, whether it was that 627 00:27:31,308 --> 00:27:33,228 Speaker 7: he was a distraction or not good enough in the 628 00:27:33,268 --> 00:27:35,108 Speaker 7: run game or whatever the case. It was just a 629 00:27:35,108 --> 00:27:37,948 Speaker 7: way of playing out publicly. But when it comes to 630 00:27:37,988 --> 00:27:40,108 Speaker 7: this trade in Quinn and Williams, I think there's nothing 631 00:27:40,108 --> 00:27:43,548 Speaker 7: better in the NFL when you are able to acquire 632 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:47,788 Speaker 7: a proven hot commodity that is still in his prime. 633 00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:49,908 Speaker 7: We see it too many times where you see the 634 00:27:49,988 --> 00:27:51,908 Speaker 7: name trade where you get a guy but he's kind 635 00:27:51,908 --> 00:27:53,708 Speaker 7: of just too late in his career to have that 636 00:27:53,748 --> 00:27:54,548 Speaker 7: same impact. 637 00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:56,148 Speaker 8: Well, Quinn Williams is right in. 638 00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:57,868 Speaker 7: The middle of it and you're seeing the effects of it, 639 00:27:57,948 --> 00:28:00,988 Speaker 7: not only him, but Logan Wilson as well as de 640 00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:02,228 Speaker 7: Marveion over shown. 641 00:28:01,988 --> 00:28:03,348 Speaker 8: Who has come back from injury. 642 00:28:03,508 --> 00:28:06,748 Speaker 7: That's really bolstered this defense and it's really number one 643 00:28:06,788 --> 00:28:09,468 Speaker 7: defense since the trade in terms of rushing defense. 644 00:28:09,748 --> 00:28:10,948 Speaker 8: So it's been. 645 00:28:10,868 --> 00:28:16,308 Speaker 7: Awesome to see the Cowboys is what needed to complete them, 646 00:28:16,788 --> 00:28:17,388 Speaker 7: to be honest. 647 00:28:17,388 --> 00:28:18,548 Speaker 8: So I think it's awesome. 648 00:28:18,908 --> 00:28:20,428 Speaker 7: I wish it play it out a little different from 649 00:28:20,428 --> 00:28:22,988 Speaker 7: a public standpoint, but man, Jerry Jones is making us 650 00:28:22,988 --> 00:28:23,868 Speaker 7: eat our words right now. 651 00:28:24,388 --> 00:28:27,028 Speaker 2: I love the reference of the twelve to five upset 652 00:28:27,068 --> 00:28:29,788 Speaker 2: Kyle very easy these see a twelve seed make his 653 00:28:29,828 --> 00:28:32,508 Speaker 2: way into the sweet sixteens. We love to see that, Nanta. 654 00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:34,948 Speaker 2: I like the little trivia you had in here, which 655 00:28:34,988 --> 00:28:36,708 Speaker 2: I just grabbed your card and. 656 00:28:36,668 --> 00:28:37,708 Speaker 3: Highlighted it myself. 657 00:28:38,028 --> 00:28:41,028 Speaker 2: How many teams average at least twenty nine points in 658 00:28:41,068 --> 00:28:43,628 Speaker 2: their first nine games, but one fewer than four of them. 659 00:28:43,748 --> 00:28:46,148 Speaker 2: I honestly would have thought last year's Bengals team tod 660 00:28:46,188 --> 00:28:47,788 Speaker 2: that I'd beel like they put so many points up 661 00:28:47,788 --> 00:28:49,428 Speaker 2: on the board but didn't win a lot. But the 662 00:28:49,468 --> 00:28:51,588 Speaker 2: fact that through the first nine it's still just the 663 00:28:51,628 --> 00:28:54,428 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Cowboys, it makes them the come running 664 00:28:54,508 --> 00:28:56,868 Speaker 2: team kind of even more sweetly satisfying. 665 00:28:56,988 --> 00:28:59,548 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting heading into 666 00:28:59,548 --> 00:29:02,588 Speaker 6: this week going against the lines. Right now, according to analytics, 667 00:29:02,828 --> 00:29:05,348 Speaker 6: the Cowboys have a seventeen percent chance of making the 668 00:29:05,388 --> 00:29:07,548 Speaker 6: playoffs if they do win this next game. 669 00:29:07,588 --> 00:29:09,708 Speaker 3: I guess it goes up to thirty one. And how 670 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,028 Speaker 3: major would that be, KB? 671 00:29:11,508 --> 00:29:13,748 Speaker 6: If a team that started off the way they did 672 00:29:14,348 --> 00:29:15,668 Speaker 6: actually makes it to the playoffs. 673 00:29:15,708 --> 00:29:17,028 Speaker 3: And I know you're high on them, right KB. 674 00:29:17,588 --> 00:29:21,148 Speaker 9: Well, I'm Jimmy used the phrase sweetly satisfying, and. 675 00:29:21,828 --> 00:29:24,308 Speaker 3: This could go down. Guys, you know how much. 676 00:29:24,268 --> 00:29:27,268 Speaker 9: I love Ties because they present what used to be 677 00:29:27,308 --> 00:29:30,148 Speaker 9: called the quagmire before it was an animated character and 678 00:29:30,188 --> 00:29:30,708 Speaker 9: family guy. 679 00:29:31,228 --> 00:29:32,988 Speaker 3: This could be one of the greatest Ties in. 680 00:29:33,028 --> 00:29:36,508 Speaker 9: History because not only did the Packers and the Cowboys 681 00:29:36,588 --> 00:29:38,148 Speaker 9: tie forty. 682 00:29:37,788 --> 00:29:41,228 Speaker 3: To forty, which is just beautiful. It's an incredible tie. 683 00:29:41,908 --> 00:29:44,668 Speaker 9: The fact that it has so many ramifications right now, 684 00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:48,068 Speaker 9: it's not like, you know, it was the Arizona Cardinals 685 00:29:48,188 --> 00:29:52,308 Speaker 9: tie the Cowboys. It's two teams that really really matter, 686 00:29:52,788 --> 00:29:55,548 Speaker 9: and that tie is going to dictate not only maybe 687 00:29:55,588 --> 00:29:59,508 Speaker 9: one teams playoff destiny, but multiple I'm so excited because 688 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:01,708 Speaker 9: I know forty to forty we're going to be talking 689 00:30:01,748 --> 00:30:03,988 Speaker 9: about it at the end of December and be like, man, 690 00:30:04,108 --> 00:30:06,948 Speaker 9: this is messing up everything, and I like things getting 691 00:30:06,948 --> 00:30:07,948 Speaker 9: messed up, so I can't wait. 692 00:30:08,148 --> 00:30:10,308 Speaker 6: So obviously there's a lot of talk about this defense. 693 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,868 Speaker 6: And the reason why I wanted to talk of defense 694 00:30:11,908 --> 00:30:13,988 Speaker 6: is because when you look at the offensive side of 695 00:30:14,028 --> 00:30:16,188 Speaker 6: the wall, I think that was that was a pie 696 00:30:16,228 --> 00:30:16,948 Speaker 6: that heard it been. 697 00:30:16,868 --> 00:30:18,548 Speaker 3: Baked and it was sizzling from the beginning. 698 00:30:18,588 --> 00:30:20,468 Speaker 6: So, Kabinda, I got to ask you, when you look 699 00:30:20,468 --> 00:30:22,388 Speaker 6: at the offensive side of the ball from a defense, 700 00:30:22,548 --> 00:30:25,988 Speaker 6: from a defender standpoint, how difficult is it to go 701 00:30:26,028 --> 00:30:28,788 Speaker 6: against somebody knowing an offense that has a weapon like 702 00:30:28,828 --> 00:30:30,268 Speaker 6: George Pickens and CD Lamb. 703 00:30:30,788 --> 00:30:32,948 Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's tough because the reality is 704 00:30:33,348 --> 00:30:36,028 Speaker 7: you got to treat them both like their number one guys. 705 00:30:36,028 --> 00:30:37,988 Speaker 7: And I think that's the hard part because most teams 706 00:30:37,988 --> 00:30:40,428 Speaker 7: are structured in a way where there truly is a 707 00:30:40,468 --> 00:30:42,908 Speaker 7: pecking order in terms of who you expect to get 708 00:30:42,948 --> 00:30:43,588 Speaker 7: the ball, the. 709 00:30:43,548 --> 00:30:45,628 Speaker 8: Majority of the targets, and things of that nature. 710 00:30:45,948 --> 00:30:49,028 Speaker 7: And when you have two wide receivers that are this dynamic, 711 00:30:49,268 --> 00:30:51,308 Speaker 7: I mean George Pickens and CD and when it. 712 00:30:51,308 --> 00:30:53,068 Speaker 8: Comes to the fifty to fifty balls, the. 713 00:30:53,108 --> 00:30:56,428 Speaker 7: Route running the yak after catch, you can never really 714 00:30:56,468 --> 00:30:59,428 Speaker 7: favor any one side and it really keeps the defense 715 00:30:59,588 --> 00:31:02,508 Speaker 7: very true. It keeps them disciplined, and that's tough to 716 00:31:02,588 --> 00:31:04,348 Speaker 7: go against. And then when you have a quarterback like 717 00:31:04,468 --> 00:31:06,668 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott, who we all know has played at a 718 00:31:06,748 --> 00:31:09,468 Speaker 7: really high level for quite some time, and its putting 719 00:31:09,508 --> 00:31:12,988 Speaker 7: together one of those Dak Prescott great seasons. I mean, 720 00:31:13,028 --> 00:31:15,468 Speaker 7: the sky's the limit for this offense, and they've really 721 00:31:15,468 --> 00:31:18,508 Speaker 7: been number one offensively for quite some time this year. 722 00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:21,468 Speaker 2: Yah was very talented, a lot of fun star names 723 00:31:21,468 --> 00:31:23,588 Speaker 2: on the roster, but they've also just been riddled with 724 00:31:23,668 --> 00:31:26,428 Speaker 2: heartbreak and tragedy this season, which is why to the 725 00:31:26,508 --> 00:31:30,268 Speaker 2: man who started our show today in a bathrobe, somehow 726 00:31:30,308 --> 00:31:32,708 Speaker 2: he is the loan representative on gmfp is with an 727 00:31:32,788 --> 00:31:35,108 Speaker 2: MVP vote and a Coach of the Year vote and whatnot. 728 00:31:35,868 --> 00:31:39,708 Speaker 2: Shout out to Brian Schottenneimer. Maybe he's easily. He could 729 00:31:39,708 --> 00:31:41,828 Speaker 2: be a pretty good consideration for Coach of the Year 730 00:31:41,948 --> 00:31:45,308 Speaker 2: for everything that the Cowboys have gone through this season. 731 00:31:45,668 --> 00:31:48,708 Speaker 2: So put him on your list of considerations. Perhaps, Kyle, 732 00:31:48,748 --> 00:31:51,028 Speaker 2: despite the shirt that you're wearing today, I like. 733 00:31:51,028 --> 00:31:53,508 Speaker 3: The suggestion tough category. 734 00:31:53,748 --> 00:31:56,628 Speaker 9: Tough category this year in the world of Mike Brabel 735 00:31:56,788 --> 00:31:57,748 Speaker 9: and of this. 736 00:31:57,668 --> 00:32:01,788 Speaker 3: Guy and of Kyle Shanahan. Like I love Brian Schottenheimer too. 737 00:32:01,908 --> 00:32:04,268 Speaker 9: Like, let's get to the playoffs and then we'll see 738 00:32:04,428 --> 00:32:06,828 Speaker 9: top category 739 00:32:12,148 --> 00:32:13,748 Speaker 3: Gootball and football