1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Rick Prolepside has the first animo or up the side 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: by forty thirty ten five touchdown Joston. There is no 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: off season for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: it's Texans all Lexus. Oh yes it is, Hello Texans. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: Mark Vanjamar and John Harris doing tonight's show live from 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the Sports Radio six ten studios. So we've taken the 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio studio on the road once again as 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: we are inside a week to go until training camp. 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: And John McClean is with us because it's Thursday, it's 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: death and taxes. It's a certain team. McClean is with 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: us on a Thursday night from the Houston Chronicle. And 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Jimmy Mudd by the way on the board. Wait to 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: see jim Mud back where he belongs. And wonderful guy 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: and it's great to be working with him again. And general, 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: good evening, sir. How are you tonight? I'm doing great, guys, 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: how are you doing well? Look? I hate to begin 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: the show this way, but it's a sad story. Greg Knapp, 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: former Texans quarterbacks coach, passed away died after suffering injuries 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: from a bicycle accident struck by a motor vehicle and 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Greg Knapp did not make it. He was in critical 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: condition for several days. And I don't know how much 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: interaction you've had with him, John, but the terrific guy, 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and everybody around the building who was there when he 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: was there remembers him well. And it's a sad story, 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: the napper. There's nothing I can add to that. He 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: never regained consciousness after he was hit and he died 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: with his family with him. Greg was fifty eight years old, 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: he was in He was a Sacramento State for nine years, 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: forty nine ers for seven years. Gary Kubiak met him 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: out there and then worked with him in Denver. Brought 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: him to the Texans in two thousand and ten and 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven as the quarterback coach, and he 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: was kind of an unsunned hero in two thousand and 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: eleven when they won that first Division titled with t J. 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Yates as the rookie third strand quarterback who clints the 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: division with that touchdown, passed Kevin Walter and Cincinnati and 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: so everybody across the NFL. He'd been with a lot 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: of franchises and he created a lot of goodwill It's 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: just such a sad time. They investigation said there was 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: no drugs or alcohol, but the investigation is ongoing. The 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: driver did stop, but it hasn't been concluded. Just such sad, 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: sad stuff. And on a different level, though general, I 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: wanted to ask, I don't know if we talked about 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: this a little bit last week, and I'm not sure. 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: I can't remember the timeline. But Alex Gibbs offensive line 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: coach in the Texas for a while and the Broncos 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: one of the zone running disciples. What is Alex gibbs 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: legacy in some sense as an offensive line coach in 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: this league? Because when to me, when you talk about 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: offensive line coaches, at least in the last twenty to 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: thirty years, you talk about Dante Scarnekia and you talk 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: about Alex Gibbs, and then everybody else is playing for 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: third place in some sense. But what was Alex's legacy 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: left in the NFL? Johnny, Alex was one of the 55 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: best line coaches in history. In that zone scheme that 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: they incorporated in Denver allowed them every year to have 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: a thousand yard russer in Terrell Davis's case, two thousand 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: yard Russer. He was as old school as you could get. 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Remember here when in the off season program he had 60 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: players hitting and one of the backup linemen recorded it, 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: sent it to ESPN, and they were a big story 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: on outside the lines violating the rules. They never even 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: got punished for it by the NFL. But that's the 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of guy Alex was. At one point they had 65 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: like four offensive line coaches if you counted my Bruce Matthews, 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: who was there as a quality control guy. And I 67 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: remember Kyle Santahan when he was there and Alex they 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: went way back when Kyle was a kid. I'm told 69 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: they would get into some knockdown, drag out arguments about 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: strategy and game plans, but they remain friends. But he's 71 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: another one like Greg Nap he died at eighty, who 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: will be missed by many. John McLean joining us from 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle. General. I saw you on NFL Network today. 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: You look fabulous, by the way, and who does your hair? 75 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: And I wanted to touch on some of the big 76 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: stories of the day. And I think around the league 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: when we look at the protocols, well, it's interesting to 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: me how there will be no rescheduled games due to 79 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen this year, they will just go for a 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: forfeit if you cannot field a team properly. And I'm 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: not sure what threshold they get to to determine that 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: you multiple positives, I guess, or whatever the case may be. 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: But your thoughts on what came down today from the 84 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: National Football League, Well, thank you very much for watching 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Mark number one. I said from the get go, you're 86 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: a numbs all if you don't get your vaccinations. I 87 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: just can't imagine what would keep a player from getting 88 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: the vaccinations. Knowing you could hurt yourself, You can hurt 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: your teammates financially, you could hurt your organization, you could 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: hurt your fans to what end? Are you a moron? 91 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Are you stubborn? Are you stupid? Or a combination? It's 92 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. And to show you the Union is on 93 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: board with all this, the Union has encouraged players get 94 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: your vaccination. How would you like to be the player 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: who causes not only you, but a couple others to 96 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: miss the game you lose, you were favored, and you 97 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs by a game? Are you missed home 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: field advantage or a divisional game, and that is going 99 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: to haunt you the rest of your career because we 100 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: in the media will let you hear about it. Get vaccinated. Yeah, 101 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: do you hear? This is at the college level, but 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: you hear that. Washington State's head coach Nick Rolovich put 103 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: on a statement yesterday and said he would be doing 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: PAC twelve media days via zoom because he doesn't want 105 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: the vacs. He's not vaxxed. Wow, how how can you 106 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: be the leader of any organization in any way, shape 107 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: or form, especially in that one. It's it's it's mind blowing. 108 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm with the general on this one. It's mind blowing. 109 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: But what is what is he gonna do when he 110 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: was around his players and coaches? What if he called 111 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, and I mean that he could cause him 112 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: to get sick. He could cause him to miss games. 113 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: Why can't an athletic director or a school president tell 114 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: the coach you need to be a leader, you need 115 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, and you need to encourage the players 116 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated or it could cost us a lot 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: of money. Everyone's being in super duper careful with so 118 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: called forcing people to do that. But I think John, 119 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: and get your opinion, on this. It feels as if 120 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I saw a few tweets kind of 121 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: this extent that Roger Goodell's kind of had enough and 122 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: he's just like, look, well, we're telling you to get 123 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: vaccinated without telling you that absolutely get vaccinated. I mean absolutely, 124 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: And the fact the union's all for it. The union 125 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: put out of things six weeks ago to the players. 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: Do not claim you don't have the facts, because they're 127 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: right here on our home page, all the experts. They've 128 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: done everything they can, and I just can't believe. I'd 129 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: love to see if Cole Beasley what happens to him. 130 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: If you don't get vaccinated, there's a good chance you're 131 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna get cut. And if you're not vaccinated, there's a 132 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: good chance you're not going to get another job. And 133 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: if you are close to being equal to a vaccinated 134 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: player your history, if you're out there and they bring 135 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: in for a tryout and you well, I don't even 136 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: know if you can try out if you're not vaccinated, 137 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: but say you could, and they bring in another guy there, 138 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: you both did well, they're taking the vaccinated player. The 139 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: ignorance just boggles my mind. Well, it affects John and 140 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: I too, because if we test positive, we're out. But 141 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: one thing I liked about today is that if you 142 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: get two negative tests in a row, back to back, 143 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: twenty four hours apart, you're back in. You're right back in. 144 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: No waiting period. Yeah, no, nothing because to me, John, look, 145 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: not that the streak is important to me, but I 146 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: filled every game in the history of the franchise, okay, 147 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: so I don't want to miss any action, and this 148 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: bothered me. It bothered me that we were getting tested 149 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: at all, having been vacced unless you were sick, showing 150 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: symptoms or whatever. But it's okay. Back to back negatives 151 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: gets you back. I don't care. I've had my vaccinations 152 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: and if they want to test me every day, great, 153 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: Because the Fiser vaccination ninety five percent. That means there's 154 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: five percent out there who are gonna get sick. Now, 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to die, but you can still get 156 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: it and get sick. I don't want to miss any 157 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: time either, but it made me feel more comfortable last 158 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: year in training camp, getting vast getting tested every day, 159 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: and it won't bother me at all. And I'll tell 160 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: you what, it's such a big story. Every player I interview, 161 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, are you vaccinated? And if he says 162 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: that's private, that's gonna say he's got it, because if 163 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I got my vaccinations, I want everybody to know it. 164 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna get a tattoo of my vaccination card 165 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: just in case. Oh really. Yeah, it's like go to 166 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the airport, just like gods, you know, just pull it out. 167 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: You'll put it a little like that little wristband at 168 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks well, speaking at quarterbacks general, I just I 169 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: just saw online on the Twitter's a little tiny video, 170 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: short video of Dak Prescott going out to practice, and 171 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: I realized, Oh, it's already back. Oh yeah, it's bad. 172 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: I watched all the press conferences. Yes, it's so incredible 173 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: it's back. In general, how how much easy money is 174 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: it to put money down on Dak Prescott as comeback 175 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: player of the year. What do you expect from Dak 176 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: and those guys up north this year? I have a 177 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: candidate for a comeback Player of the year, Jameis Winston. OK. 178 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: I think playing with Drew Brees and playing for Sean Payton, 179 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that Sean Payton did not try to 180 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: get another quarterback to go with Winston and Taysom Hill. 181 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: The last year Winston played two years ago when the 182 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: Texans beat him. You know, he played. He threw for 183 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: over five thousand yards, but he had thirty interceptions and 184 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember how many. Pick six is six I think, 185 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: but if working with Peyton and Brees helps him, say, 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: reduce those interceptions by half, and he's a starter for 187 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: a team that is a legitimate Super Bowl contender. If 188 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: they have a quarterback, then that's who I look at. 189 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: And I think Dak Prescott's going to play well if 190 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: he's healthy. He's loaded with receivers. If his offensive line 191 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: stays healthy, that's good. You know, Zeke Elliot's ready to 192 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: come out and have another season in which he challenges 193 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: for the league lead and rushing. So they're loaded on offense. 194 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: Last year they were moving the ball when Prescott was 195 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: quarterback and then they got hurt. The key for the Cowboys, 196 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: who I think will win the NFC East to see 197 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: if they go anywhere, is their defense. They've made a 198 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: lot of changes, including bringing in Dan Quinn and fire 199 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan as the coordinator. That's going to be the key. 200 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: We will do well, But the defense so much better. Okay, 201 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: the General John mcclaim with us from the Houston Chronicle. General, 202 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: I think we know who is going to be taking 203 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback snaps next week in training camp. They have 204 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: a really good idea of who that's going to be. 205 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: The three guys, So tell me how they're going to 206 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: divide up the reps in your opinions, at least in 207 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the early going of training camps. I would imagine early 208 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: on that even though it's the first time Sin's O two, 209 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks are new and the most important thing 210 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: at this point is to make sure to Rod Taylor 211 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: is ready to go against the Jaguars because they can 212 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: win that game. They can beat Carolina, they could start 213 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: two and one shock the world. Now they're not gonna 214 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: win in Cleveland, but they can win those first two. 215 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: So he's got to be ready to go. You have 216 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: to get Jeff Drisco some playing time in practice time 217 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: because he's an injury away from being a starter. And 218 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: to Rod Taylor has lost his last two starting jobs 219 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: with the Browns and Chargers because of early season injuries. 220 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: And then the guy who want to know the most 221 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: about this season, Davis Mills. He's got to get snaps. 222 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: He's got to get to play in preseason because once 223 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: you start the season, if he's thirteen, he's persona on Grada. 224 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: And I still think, and it's just a gas of course, 225 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: that after the bye week, nine weeks and where they 226 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: left would be a good time to play him because 227 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: to me, if he's ready mentally, and I think because 228 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: he's such a sharp guy, he'll be ready mentally, He'll 229 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: still make a lot of mistakes. Remember Watson's first preseason, 230 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: he made a lot of mistakes. But the key is 231 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: for him this season to show Neccessario David Culley, Pep Hamilton, 232 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: and Tim Kelly. Can he be the franchise quarterback? Now? 233 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: You asked me a question when I said this a 234 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, Martin. You said, well, what if they're 235 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: five and four at the break and too Rod Taylor 236 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: is playing well? And I said, well, I thought they 237 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: should stop the season right there and make him serio 238 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: Executive of the Year and Cully coached the Year and 239 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith assistant coach of the year or Tim Kelly, 240 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: because that would you talk about shock and awe based 241 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: on what everybody thinks. But I think the most important 242 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: thing preseason is to get a good look at Taylor 243 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: and makes sure to Rod is comfortable with everything and 244 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: ready to go. Shouldn't take him that long considering his 245 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: familiarity with Pep Hamilton. And you've got to give Davis 246 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,479 Speaker 1: Mills enough time to help him build a little confidence 247 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: for when the time comes that he plays in regular 248 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: season general every now and again, to do a segment 249 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: with Mark and just called it either or It's pretty simple. 250 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: I just ask him Hamburger, hot Dog, John Harris or 251 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: John McClain, and he has to pick. I ask you 252 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: this either or which Texan is it more important to 253 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: have a solid third or second or third year? Ross 254 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: Blacklock or Lonnie Johnson? Which one is it more important 255 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: to have a great year? Well, if Ross Blacklock, who 256 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: didn't do squad last season, makes a big jump in 257 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: this system at two ninety, he's gonna be inside. But 258 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: if he makes a big jump, that would help Lonnie 259 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Johnson Junior. Where if Ross doesn't, and that could put 260 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: more pressure on Lonnie Johnson Jr. Johnson going into his 261 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: third year, Blacklock into his second year. It all starts 262 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: up front, two former second round picks. So I'm going 263 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: to say Blacklock not just because he's a defensive lineman, 264 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: because of who he represents. DeAndre Hopkins interesting. John Let's 265 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: get into this a little bit. In the secondary. I'm 266 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: looking at guys like Terrence Mitchell, Desmond King, they have 267 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: some others, and I'm thinking, you know, if it works 268 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: out that these guys have good years, if they summon 269 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: the form that they've shown previously, you might have some 270 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: very pleasant surprises on the back end here. What are 271 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts on what you're seeing there in the secondary 272 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: as you just look at it on paper heading into camp, 273 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: Margaret's not just the secondary. If you go and I'm 274 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: doing a nine part series on the position analysis, and 275 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: if you look at a lot of the players, because 276 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Sario is broad here they had a problem last year 277 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: that made him available, but the year before Mark Ingram 278 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: had fifteen touchdowns two years ago, Philip Lindsay had seventeen 279 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns his first two seasons combined in over a thousand yards, 280 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: and he was hurt last year. And MALIEK. Collins started 281 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: for three years the Cowboys and was pretty good last 282 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: year it didn't work out. It's little Johnson sixteen starts. 283 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of players you can say that 284 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: about but other than Bradley Roby and released since he's 285 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: not going to play against the Jaguars, they're going to 286 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: have two new corners. And Murray and Reid started the 287 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: games at safety line. Johnson Junior started five. But they're 288 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna have two new corners. Could be Mitchell, and if 289 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: they're starting three corners, then could be King. Another guy 290 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: interested in we're talking about Ross Blacklocke, John Reid, John Reid. 291 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien liked him a lot. He's smaller, but he's smart. 292 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: He was older when he was drafted out of Penn 293 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: State last year. Year. I look to see if he's 294 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: going to make that big second year jump and how 295 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: he fits in with all these new cornerbacks who have 296 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: been brought in. And some guys are gonna surprise this year. 297 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: There will be players on this team. It doesn't matter 298 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: what they do in camp. It's what they do first 299 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: in preseason, then his regular season, and we're gonna go, wow, 300 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell, he's gotten good since the Texans had him 301 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: for a cup of coffee or Desmond King man, I 302 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: bet the chart Titans or sorry they gave up on him. 303 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: Guys are gonna step up. The key is will there 304 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: be enough to help them be better than most people 305 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: are predicting around the NFL? John, when you start talking 306 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: about the Titans and Desimon King, I was actually watching 307 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the Bronze and Titans from last year, and as I'm 308 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: watching a game, I'm like, man, Baker Mayfield looks fantastic. 309 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: In this game, they put up twenty four in I 310 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: think a quarter in a series. I mean, it was 311 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: amazing to watch. Its got me thinking about the three 312 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks or eighteen seemingly on the verge of getting a 313 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: big contract, Josh Allen with the Bills, Lamar Jackson with 314 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens, Baker Mayfield with the Browns. Which of those three, John, 315 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: do you think signs a big deal this offseason leading 316 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: into year four? And with Baker Mayfield in particular, do 317 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: you think he is the answer with the Cleveland Browns 318 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: going forward? I do think he is. And I think 319 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for COVID nineteen reducing the salary cap 320 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: tremendously and next year the cap goes way up, I 321 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: think these guys may have already signed extensions and maybe 322 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: they've turned it down because their agents say, hey, have 323 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: another season, a cap goes up, you've got a chance 324 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: to agree to make more money. You know, all three 325 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: of those teams are Super Bowl contenders, and I don't 326 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: know I have a clue which one's going to get 327 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: the contract first. But it's only a matter of time. 328 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: But I think it'd be better to wait one more 329 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: season when there's more money on the table. The Ravens 330 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: gonna win the AFC North, Nope. I even though a 331 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: lot of people are down on the Steelers nause Harris 332 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: is my preseason candidate for Offensive Rookie of the Year. 333 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Restore the running game at Pittsburgh, which would help Ben Roethlisberger. 334 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: They've had changes in their offensive line on defense, but man, 335 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: they're the Steelers and Mike Tomlin is a great coach. 336 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna pick the Steelers to win it in 337 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: all three, including the Browns to make the playoffs. And 338 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I got the Browns. I can't believe I'm doing it. 339 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: Two years ago, I was like, man, there's way too 340 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: much hype about the Browns, and then they fell flat 341 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: on their face last year. First year Stefanski. Andrew Berry, 342 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Andrew Barry's on a heck of a job 343 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: building that team. I mean, with what they've brought in. 344 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: But I think it all comes back. It comes back 345 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield, John, do you give Patriots, Dolphins, Jets, 346 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: any one of those? Hang out before before you answer that, general, 347 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I got a question for both you guys. We're gonna 348 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna put together a team. We got two weeks 349 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: to get ready and play a game. You how to 350 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: win this? And I'll give you the choice of three quarterbacks, Rothsburger, Mayfield, 351 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson. Who you take it? Lamar John, I'm 352 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: taking Lamar Jackson, Okay, you know, I mean, I guess 353 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: in short order you feel like, oh, he can run 354 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: us to a win. But the point is this, you're 355 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: picking the Browns, and that means you think they have 356 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: a ton of talent because Mayfield is not your guy. Right, No, 357 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: it's just because I'm picking Lamar. You know what, you know, 358 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: I've always loved Lamar. You know that I've always loved them. 359 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: I love I love to have a quarterback that can 360 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: can beat you in different ways, and I do think 361 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Baker's got a little bit of that. I would take 362 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: Lamar Baker and then Ben last even though I know 363 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: what Ben's done in the league, like I get it, 364 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: but I just watching Baker against the Titans. It got 365 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: me thinking about what his splits are at home versus away, 366 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: because the day that we were there last year, the 367 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: weather was so awful. Neither quarterback. He just watched the 368 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: ball flutter from both quarterbacks throwing the ball, and you 369 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: know both of them can sling it, and the balls 370 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: just fluttered when they got in the air, or they 371 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: just took a nosedive when they were kind of on 372 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: the run. I don't know that that helps Baker being 373 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: and clearly gets on the road, or he gets an 374 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: environment like Energy Stadium the second half of the the game 375 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: when he's a rookie and he starts slinging all over 376 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: the place. So I think he's got plenty of weapons. 377 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: I would put Baker. I'd go Lamar Baker. It's not 378 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: like Lamar and then there's a huge job. I think 379 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: Baker's right there, all good, but I'll take Lamar because 380 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: I know that things go wrong, he can take off 381 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: and make something happen. Brown's had three consecutive games like 382 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: that with terrible weather. That's one reason they've had one 383 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: great quarterback Auto Graham one sometimes great quarterback, and Barney Cooshart. 384 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to be a quarterback and play not just 385 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: in that city, but it's where the stadium is situated 386 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: on the banks of Lake Gary, and I started going 387 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: there in the late seventies. And so Brian Sipe is 388 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: on the phone and he's really upset. General, Yeah, he 389 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: was never a great quarterback. Was an m VB one 390 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: year though, so what yeah, uh, well, we talk about 391 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Jets saying I want to go with 392 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: this Madrid's no. The Jets absolutely not their candidate for 393 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: the top pick, and then the Dolphins depends on the 394 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: play off twa. Had they been able to trade for 395 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, they'd be a Super Bowl contender, and maybe 396 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: they still will if he gets his legal issues behind him, 397 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: because if I were him, that's where I'd want to 398 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: go because they got a lot of talent and the 399 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: jury is out onto a tongue of Aloa and Baker 400 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: Mayfield to me has been too inconsistent. But man, he's 401 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: got receivers, offensive linemen. Their secondary is as deep and 402 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: as talented as any Now they've got Jadeveon Clowney. If 403 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: he gets healthy to play with Miles Garrett. That team 404 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: is loaded and they could win the division and they 405 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: could go to the super Bowl, and if they did, 406 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: I think you'd be a great day for the NFL. 407 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: All right, so you have three teams out of the 408 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: AFC North. Look, I don't know if you're on the 409 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: record with this stuff yet, but what other division is 410 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: getting two teams in or more than one team? I 411 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: should say in this case, Well, I don't think it's 412 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the FC West. I think there's one team and there's 413 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: a bunch of also rans. And then I think that 414 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: the two from the South that made it here last year, 415 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: it'll be Indianapolis or Miami. One of those two both 416 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: were ten and six. I believe last season new quarterback 417 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: for the Colts really a new quarterback because two are 418 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: going into a second season. So I think it'll be 419 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: one of those two. The love for the Raiders, no, not, 420 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: absolutely not. And now I saw I read a thing 421 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: the other day that talking about the Broncos talent, how 422 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: good it was, and now the Broncos could push the Chiefs, 423 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, my god, what planet. If you've 424 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: been on Denver's planet, Hey, General, I gotta ask this because, well, 425 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: we all know that you're a Baylor alum and you 426 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: love your bail or Bears who just won the national 427 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: championship in college basketball, David and and football. A Well, 428 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve cease to exist if Texas and Oklahoma 429 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: leave it to go to the SEC and be what 430 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: are your thoughts about Texas and Oklahoma leaving to go 431 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to the SEC or some other conference to be named later. Well, 432 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: they wouldn't go to one the name later. It looks 433 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: like they're going to SEC. I've done three talk shows 434 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: in SEC cities and I said, A and M will 435 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: fight this, and A and M does not want Texas 436 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: in there. And I told them when it comes to OU, 437 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: they'll always be good in football, and Texas has been 438 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: mediocre and football in Big twelve. You put them in 439 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: SEC West, they might be lucky to be five hundred. 440 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: And what I told them is we in Texas have 441 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: grown up knowing the University of Texas drives the bus 442 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: and everybody else gets behind them and grabs the seat 443 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: and hopes the long ram takes them in the right direction. 444 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: Now that's all sports, that's not and that's the school 445 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: Texas is used to getting its way. Texas is used 446 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: to ruling the roost, and I told for the SEC, 447 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: you better be careful what it wishes for. Not Texas 448 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: is a great program. It's inexcusable the long arms in 449 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: our top five program every season, like Clemson and Ohio 450 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: State and some of the others. And but that program 451 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: right now is a shell of what it used to be. 452 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: And going into the SEC, that's gonna make it even harder. 453 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: And after a while their fans are gonna be Yeah, 454 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: we're getting sixty million dollars a year, but we already 455 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: had more money than God. But I'm tired of losing six, seven, 456 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: eight games. General, what's in the chronicle? I'm doing that 457 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: positional series and I've got two podcasts, another one up 458 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: today Sunday. I'll have a kick off the camp Callum, 459 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: might be some talk about the quarterbacks. Guys. Thank you 460 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: very much, margat John can't wait to see you guys 461 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: next week Wednesday morning, the General will join us and 462 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: we'll get that all schedule for you. General, thank you 463 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: very much, and coming up, who's better. 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We had the General on John McClaine, and 488 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: I love you know what. The college football stuff is fun, Johnny, 489 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: when it's seismic like this and everybody has an opinion. 490 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that. That's in the next segment. 491 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I did promise Who's better? Which is NFL World? All right? 492 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes we do vintage guys, like vintage quarterbacks, vintage coaches. 493 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Always I'm gonna start vintage coaches, all right, boy, Well 494 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: one of them still working, but he qualifies as both 495 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: vintage and current. Who's better, Johnny, Bill Walsh or Bill Belichick? 496 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: Who's better? All right? And I love Bill Walsh, but 497 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: and Bill Walsh did great things with with Joe Montana, 498 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: There's no question. I mean he was. Bill Walsh was 499 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: the originator of the quote unquote West Coast offense, which 500 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: is an interesting story because it essentially originated in Cincinnati. 501 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Paul Brown yeah, well, no, he was working for Paul. 502 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: He was working for Paul Brown, right, uh, and their 503 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: quarterback had gotten hurt and he just couldn't throw the 504 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: ball deep. And so Bill Walsh was given the task 505 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: of figured out right figuring out how you can do this, 506 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: and so that he came up with what turned out 507 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: to be the West Coast offense. I don't know, maybe 508 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: it's because I've been listening to a few podcasts lately. 509 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: A guy that I really liked. His name is coach Vass. 510 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: I was listening to a podcast and he was talking 511 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: about Belichick and Chris Vasser's his name, and Chris has 512 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: been studying defense. He's been coaching defense, but he's been 513 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: studying defenses, and he does a lot with high school 514 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: and college. He doesn't do a ton with the NFL, 515 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: he said, but he said, I do watch the Patriots, 516 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: and I was kind of like, and he said, the 517 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: things that Belichick has done over the years where he 518 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: has been so far ahead of the curve defensively, if 519 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: you want to know what's going to happen is offensively 520 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: well just yeah, okay, but the defensively in particular being 521 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. But then adapting. That's the one 522 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: thing I don't know that Walsh was around long enough 523 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: to do. I mean, his West Coast offense always worked, 524 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: but defensees weren't that sophisticated at the time to be 525 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: able to kind of catch up to it. You're seeing 526 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: offenses being caught up to now little by little by 527 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: by the defense. Belichick was always ahead of the curve 528 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: on doing those things. I mean to walk in to 529 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: the nineties Giants locker room and a defensive room meeting 530 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: room and go, hey, we're gonna let Thurman Thomas get 531 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: all that he wants on the run game, but we're 532 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: gonna play two defensive linemen and cover the past and 533 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: take that away. And he said, eventually you get the 534 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: third down. Eventually get the third down. You know, you 535 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 1: hope you do. You get the third down, and then 536 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: you win that way. And it did help that the 537 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: offense kept, you know, staying in the field for like 538 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: thirty five thirty seven minutes at night. The point being, 539 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: Belichick adapts I think more and is more a Meeble 540 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: like than Walsh. I think Walsh would just kept running 541 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: his system. Are you saying game plan offense and game 542 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: plan defense? Here's the thing. Okay, I can I can 543 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: I say this now. Everybody's got game plan offense, game 544 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: plan defense. Everybody walks in and goes, hey, we're playing 545 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles this week. They run a four to three, 546 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: they run sixty five percent Nicol. Here the plays we're 547 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: pulling out of our playbook to put in this week. Right, 548 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: everybody runs a game plan. And it wasn't like they changed, 549 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: you know when he first when when O'Brien first said that, 550 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: when he got here, I think people were thinking, Oh, 551 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna run the wishbone this week, the running shoot 552 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: the next week, and then you're gonna run. No, that's 553 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: not how it win. You know, we all saw the offense. 554 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: They ryan ran a lot of the same stuff. I 555 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: mean that it didn't work, but it didn't work as 556 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: well as they wanted to exactly. I'm going belcheck. All right, 557 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: who's better? Let's continue here. Who's better? Jamis Winston? We 558 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: brought him up in the first segment, or anybody Denver 559 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: is putting on the table bride water or Drew lost 560 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. Look, I think you think if you went 561 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: to John Elway right now and said, or what's his name. Yeah, yeah, Peyton. 562 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: But if there's no why in it, which always confuses me, 563 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: and it's spelled, that's what they say it is. I 564 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: thought it was pattent. But all right, So if you 565 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: called the Broncos and said we'll give you Winston for 566 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: either one of you guys are both, they'll take him 567 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. I don't know if they take him 568 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: with a heartbeat. I mean, the last time we saw 569 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: James Winston were strowing thirty paces. But you're saying he's better. 570 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: But what did your Locke show you? Well, on one 571 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: afternoon he showed me way too much. But that was 572 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: it one afternoon. You know what did Teddy Bridgewater show 573 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: you that he can take checkdowns? Yeah? I mean he 574 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: takes checkdowns. He doesn't throw the ball deep, doesn't challenge 575 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: should mean Now, I think with the Broncos with the 576 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: talent to have a defense side of the ball, Vic 577 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: Fangio being a defensive amount of coach, Hey just don't 578 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: turn the ball over, I think Jameis Winston would be 579 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: like poison to him. Yeah, but if Jamis cuts his 580 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: interceptions from just say, cuts some in half thirty to fifteen, 581 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: but he still throw us thirty touchdowns. You're not getting 582 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns throwing. I don't think. Well, now it's a 583 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: seventeen game season, you might get thirty, but combined, yeah, 584 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: but Jamis is probably gonna throw at that point, probably 585 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: thirty four thirty five if he cuts us interceptions and half. 586 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Would you want thirty four touchdowns and fifteen interceptions? I 587 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: could live with that. Cially with the defensive side of 588 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: the ball that they have in Denver, absolutely, Jameis Winston 589 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: would give the Broncos a much much better opportunity. Even 590 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: though I think Locke is really talented, I don't see 591 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: it coming together. And Bridgewater it's it's it's done, all right? 592 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: What's better? Johnny? This is not a who's better? It's 593 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: a what's better? What's better? Third down conversion? Or a 594 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: third down stop? What's better? That's a creep. I know 595 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: there's context involved here. I just I think a third 596 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: down stop, okay, there's there's some sort of finality for 597 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: the defense there in that. If you get a third 598 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: down offensively, right, you just keep playing. But if you 599 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: get a third down stop, defense is running off the field. 600 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: They're putting their hands up, you know, the fist up 601 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: to signify fourth down. It would lead to a complimentary 602 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: football play. Absolutely. I mean I think about some of 603 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: the best three and owns that that we've had. The 604 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: one that always comes to mind for me is in 605 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen against the Colts in the comeback game, after 606 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: Lamar danced through everybody to get the touchdown to make 607 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: it twenty three sixteen, they get the three and out 608 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: and I think it was Andre Howe who got the 609 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: sack on third down, and it was just like energy 610 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: stadium lit up. I mean it was incredible, and that 611 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: three out they got off the field, I got a punt, 612 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: take it down hits Fedora. What's the tie the game 613 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: and the way you go? I think I think a 614 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: third down stop, the defense comes running off the field. 615 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: There's something in that third down conversion. You stand the 616 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: field and keep going. Okay, here's another what's better? But 617 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: it's a projection of swords. What's better? The Eli Manning 618 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning simulcast Monday night football thing that's gonna be 619 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: on ESPN two or anything else you've seen ESPN do 620 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: during their college football National Championship stuff that's interesting. Well, 621 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love the I love the Gary Patterson, 622 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley, Mike Gundy Coaches one. I love I love 623 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: that one. I think that one is great. I don't 624 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: think they put then they don't put a lot of 625 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: production value behind it, which I think is it gets frustrating. 626 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: But how since proven he's fantastic, he's fantastic on that show, 627 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: Gundy is there to kind of needle him a little bit, 628 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: which always makes it sort of fun. Halfley was a 629 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: good addition. But they don't put a lot of value 630 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: production value in that. So it for some people that 631 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I know in the coaching world, people love watching that stuff. 632 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Some guys are like, oh, that guy doesn't know very 633 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: much it is, you know, So there's a lot of that. 634 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how this comes together for 635 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: the Mannings. I love Peyton on Peyton's places, he's fantastic. 636 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I'm not seen a college trivia show. I think that 637 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: would be that that's I'm interested to see how that goes. 638 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: And I'm interested to see how the Payton Eli mix, 639 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: how entertaining that is, because Payton on his own has 640 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: been pretty art entertaining. When you give Peyton a former teammate, 641 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 1: or you give him Marshawn Lynch, right, there's some fun 642 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: stuff coming out of that, for sure. Speaking to Marshawn Lynch, 643 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: did you see him announced the Seattle Cracking pick yesterday? 644 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: I did not see the crack I can't and of 645 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: course not a very I don't think it's a very 646 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: easily pronounced name. We gotta see who play that. I 647 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: think it's clean. I think it's mars shots that you 648 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: never know. But anyways, my point being is that Peyton 649 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: Peyton did well with Marshawn Lynch. I would watch that thing. 650 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: I'll probably watch it tonight now that I'm talking about it. 651 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: Peyton's very entertaining watch I I think it could be 652 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: really interesting with them because I do think there's this 653 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: element of they know what the heck they're talking about. 654 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna tell you. The show detail that Peyton does 655 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: it's very very good. I saw Eli. I think it 656 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: was Eli did a college version. He did it of 657 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and I thought it was pretty good the 658 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: details show. So I think Eli needs more reps doing 659 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff to be really on part Peyton. 660 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: But I'll watch that. I don't know if there's anything 661 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: else that they put together here's the thing, and this 662 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: is this is the the other aspect long broadcast. It 663 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: is when I'm when the coaches broadcast. Even though I 664 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: know we've talked about Fowler, I do like Herb Street. 665 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: I do like listening to Herb Street. I'm missing foulon 666 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: Herb Street. I feel like if I picked Pete Peyton 667 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: and Eli, I'm not picking against anything that I'm gonna 668 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: miss out. Yeah, I mean I could watch I could 669 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: watch that and not feel like, oh, I'm missing what 670 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: Brian Greasy and Lewis Riddick are saying, even though I 671 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: like both them, They're okay. But if I'm gonna choose, 672 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Mannings to see what they got. I'm 673 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: watch that and go. But with the college the college game, 674 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing what faulon Herbstreet you're saying, 675 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: and I want to listen to that. I don't, you know, 676 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Fowler to me does too much color for a play 677 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: by play guy. And I know they want these guys 678 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: to be conversational sometimes, but I feel like they do 679 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: too much of it. And I thought the Monday Night 680 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: guys did a decent job. I really did Steve Levy 681 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: and uh what Lewis Riddick, Lewis Riddick and Bran Greasy. 682 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: I think they do a solid job. By the way, 683 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: have you ever heard the story of Fowler? You can 684 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: probably relate to this now. In the twenty seventeen season 685 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: National Championship Georgian Alabama, I believe I believe that was 686 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: the one Fouler as sick as he can be, right, 687 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean, he's running one hundred and two fever in 688 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: the booth the whole time, and he does it, and 689 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: he does the game. And I don't think. I don't 690 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: think you really could know. I don't. I don't know 691 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: that I knew this, but I've I've heard him tell 692 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: the story about that, and I'm like, holy, I've talked 693 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: about it. Sometimes you do well when you're sick because 694 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: you're so focused and your rise to the occasion. I 695 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: didn't do well when I had COVID and I did 696 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: the game, but I did the game somehow. All right, 697 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: coming up, I gotta get to this Big twelve stuff. 698 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: And around the league, p FT has this headline anti 699 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: vaccine centiment could cause locker room discord. I don't know 700 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: who knows. I don't know. I you know it's all 701 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: speculation at this point, but it's something we can discuss. 702 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. Can't get enough Texans Radio. We've got shows, 703 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: we've got podcasts, We've got interviews on Houston Texans dot com. 704 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: Two is better than one. 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Do it, Mark Vandamaron John Harris with you, Okay, Johnny. 723 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: Big twelve stuff, because look, we host the Texas Bowl 724 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: every year, right, and that's Big twelve SEC, and these 725 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: are the two conferences in a conversation here, and I 726 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,959 Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts on this because when this 727 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: whole thing went down with the Yaggies going to the 728 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: SEC and the Longhorns getting the Big twelve network, and look, 729 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: they control the Big Twelve and all of that, the 730 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: Big twelve is gonna be just fine. Well if it's 731 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: so fine, why do they want to go now? Because 732 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: they see what's happening. The SEC just rules the world. 733 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: It's such a terrific conference. I think the Big Twelve 734 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: is a ok. If these schools would do better. And 735 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: by these schools, I mean the University of Texas itself, right, 736 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: It's I hate to say it, it's their fault that 737 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: the league isn't as strong as it can be. They 738 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: are the They're supposed to be the Marquis school in 739 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: the league, right they are? Yeah? I mean, O, you's 740 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: got ou they got all this, all these credentials from 741 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: the last thirty years, really, but Texas has to do 742 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: its thing as a national power if the Big twelve 743 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: is going to be as strong as it needs to be. 744 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: But tell me this, why can't Texas do that? Because 745 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: as I bring up Oklahoma, they've done way more than 746 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: Texas over the last thirty years, right, So why can't 747 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: Texas do it? Who are the two coaches in Oklahoma 748 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: Bob Stoops and Lincoln Riley? Yeah? And who are the 749 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: coaches at Texas? A lot of guys, Charlie Strong, Tom Herman. Yeah. 750 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to I don't want to 751 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: say it's there. I mean, look Stoops Stoops and Mac Brown, 752 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: those two had it going on in the two thousand 753 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: when Mac laughter was asked to leave or whatever the 754 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: case after that. It's just there's always been that level 755 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: with the University of Texas. You talk to people and 756 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: the first thing I'll tell you is, you know, there's 757 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: a sense of entitlement about going to University of Texas 758 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I just think there's 759 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: been a lack of development of the players that have 760 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: gone there. Because every year when you look at recruiting 761 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: rankings and you not don't make that a regular habit. 762 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: I do it probably a bit more than you do. 763 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 1: And look the rankings for recruits and what do you see? 764 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: Texas top five, Texas top seven, Texas top three in 765 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: certain cases. But then it gets the NFL Draft and 766 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: where Texas players being drafted, they're not. They're not being drafted. 767 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: So that means that either the recruit knicks who seemingly 768 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: get all the other recruits or a lot of the 769 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: other recruits right in programs right, either they're wrong, or 770 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: the players aren't being developed in the three or four 771 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: years or staying at the University of Texas. So what's 772 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: going on with the player development program there to not 773 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: get them where where they need to be? Are those 774 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: recruiting rankings completely and totally false? Do those players get 775 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: those recruiting numbers and tags because they're being recruited by 776 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: the University of Texas? I don't know, but I know this. 777 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: The talent that I've seen come through there has You know, 778 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: Caden Sterns is a great example of that. Caden Sterns 779 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: I saw in high school at Sibilo Steel and I thought, Man, 780 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: if this guy develops, he could be a first round pick. 781 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: He could be a top fifty pick if he develops. 782 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: He's skinny, but man, he plays hardy smart. You could 783 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: see his football. I q out in a field. I 784 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: saw him up close. I did a Sibilo steal Katie 785 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: game from the sidelines, and I'm like, this dude could play. 786 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: I saw him as a junior, I think junior sophomore 787 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: in high school. Like wow. Then he goes to Texas, 788 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: is a great freshman year, just doing as a freshman 789 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: he should do over the next two years. He didn't 790 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: take another step forward in a positive direction. Wow, And 791 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: he left development And so I think development is a massive, 792 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: massive part of that. So hopefully for Texas fans, Steve Sarkisian, 793 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 1: being an Alabama kind of learning the process and learning 794 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: how Nick Saban does it, can see how that can 795 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: be transformed to the University of Texas and where you go. 796 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: All right, over all right, since two thousand oh, you 797 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: how many single digit winning seasons. I mean they've they've 798 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: won double figures games thousand. Two thousand and six was 799 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: a single digits. So they've had four since two thousand. 800 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. The long ards. Take a guess 801 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: how many single digit winning seasons they've had some stuff. 802 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean it's double figures, it's eleven eleven singles. Yeah. 803 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: So in the last it's really the last twenty years, 804 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: because you look at the nineties, neither team really distinguished themselves, 805 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: right Ohe you at a rough nineties, Gary Gibbs. Obviously, 806 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: OU in the eighties was unbelievable. Mac shows up in 807 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: ninety eight, Stoop shows up in ninety nine, and then 808 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: you kind of go through the sweet spot with them. 809 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: Great decade. Obviously, OU wins with Hypel and Mac wins 810 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: with Vince Young gets back with his hands it to 811 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. Yeah, that's the thing that last few decades 812 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: they've been great. Look at look at who wants to 813 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: play at Oklahoma. Jalen Hurts transferred to Oklahoma. Baker Mayfield 814 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: transferred to Oklahoma, Kyler Murray transferred to Oklahoma. Spencer Rattler, 815 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: maybe the top quarterback in the country coming out twenty nineteen, 816 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: was committed to Oklahoma for I think like two years 817 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: because he wanted to be with Lincoln Riley. And now 818 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: this year they've got a defense on that side of 819 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: the ball where you're thinking, hey, wait, man, this defense 820 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: gets it rolling like we think it can with a 821 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: good OC Alex granched down a second and third third year, 822 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: it's possibility for Oklahoma doing even bigger things. But and 823 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: this is one of those years where kind of wish 824 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma was in the SEC because Alabama's probably down a 825 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: shade from what they were last year. You know, Alis, 826 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: you would be good, but it's not great. Georgia's highly talented, 827 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: but you never know what you're gonna get from them. 828 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: Florida is a step back because they've lost so much. 829 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: So Oklahoma could get in the SEC. That would be 830 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of interesting to watch, I think. I mean, the 831 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: dominant that's so dominant, the Big twelve can survive, but 832 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: it'll be totally different. You know, you can pick up 833 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: you of h and maybe Memphis or whoever else, pick 834 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: one Louisville, but it's just gonna be very strange if 835 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: this happens. And the other thing is this about OU. 836 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: OU is a Texas school, There's no question about it. 837 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: Look at the roster people. You know, I didn't know 838 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: that until I got here, really because I never really 839 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: studied them. I never had them in a game and 840 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: I looked at the roster. I thought, yeah, oh my gosh, 841 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: they're a Texas school. I mean, basically, they're not that 842 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: far from the border, and that's where they get all 843 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: their kids. They can't live off Oklahoma kids and do 844 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,479 Speaker 1: what they do, they live off Texas. I'm not totally 845 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: convinced this happens because if I remember right eleven on 846 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: A fourteen of the SEC schools have to say yes, well, 847 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 1: you know A and M saying no. And I wouldn't 848 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: be surprised if Florida and Georgia both said no as well, 849 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: because Georgia Tech and Florida State they don't want those 850 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: schools coming into the SEC. And so I think there's 851 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of unspoken agreement amongst the schools like, hey, this 852 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: school wants to come in, we're gonna say now shut 853 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: them down. So we'll see I this can happen. 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