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Speaker 1: What's that ad? It's spooky joy I'm pretty sure it's dead.

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Speaker 1: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I'm ghosted, I

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Speaker 1: does Nandaz.

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Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to my podcast,

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Speaker 2: which is a podcast called Ghosted Explanation Point by Roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is I'm just gonna say a silly one.

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Speaker 2: I got Jared Goldstein in the studio. Jared is a

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Speaker 2: comedian an actor who I love. He's always popping up

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Speaker 2: in your TV screens. It's a silly one, Okay, we

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Speaker 2: have we have a good time.

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Speaker 1: I did. I did some research on a famous case.

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Speaker 2: I apologize some of my research is a little messy

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Speaker 2: this time, but there are sources to seek out in

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Speaker 2: the description of this episode for a better researched telling

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Speaker 2: of the story. But either way, we get into some UFOs.

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Speaker 2: We have a good time. And also there's a cameo

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Speaker 2: from Kyle, my producer, which is fun. Maybe we need

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Speaker 2: more Kyle in these episodes. Next week I will be

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Speaker 2: taking off because it is Thanksgiving. I'm of course very

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Speaker 2: thankful for you for listening to the show, but I

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Speaker 2: will not be releasing a new episode next week.

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Speaker 1: Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: But also the YouTube videos usually within a couple of

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Speaker 2: days after the episode's drop.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you might want to instead watch it instead of

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Speaker 2: listening to it, or if you're listening to this not

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Speaker 2: on the day that it drops, maybe you'd want to

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Speaker 2: dude that way. I don't know, but look out for that.

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Speaker 2: We got Jared. Jared's a heartthrob. You're gonna want to

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Speaker 2: see Jared telling his UFO story on camera. So check

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Speaker 2: that out on YouTube dot com and my Patreon too.

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Speaker 2: There's a description link link in the description for fulling

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Speaker 2: episodes of me by myself and videos of me every

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Speaker 2: single week.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's it from me.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to my conversation with Jared Goldstein on

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Speaker 2: with the Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Jared Goldstein. Hi, say hi to the camera. Hello,

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Speaker 1: you're on camera. I'm on camera, Jared, what how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. You were just telling me about CBD cigarettes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my new personality. Where did you find I'm

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Speaker 3: so glad you asked? Are these sponsoring you? Where did

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Speaker 3: I find them? I was on a show with a musician.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of these musicians? I've heard of a

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Speaker 3: musician the Crazy Okay Wild, and I was introduced to

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Speaker 3: a CBD cigarette that was like a camel crush, but

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Speaker 3: instead of menthol, it's pineapple and it's all CBD.

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Speaker 4: It's hemp flowers.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not a scientist, for it calms

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Speaker 4: It's supposed to. What I'm looking for.

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Speaker 3: What I've been looking for my entire life is a

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Speaker 3: cigarette that is just like.

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Speaker 1: Tea or flowers or like leaves, that.

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Speaker 4: Just like doesn't kill you. A clove something, But I

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Speaker 4: think a clove has something in it.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's like you're in trouble. You're smoking a clove.

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Speaker 3: Your lungs aren't happy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you smoke these and I'm sure there.

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Speaker 3: Are side effects, but it's not nicotine, and it's not tobacco,

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Speaker 3: and it's not vape and it's not whatever the hell.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is like in the fifties when

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Speaker 2: they're like, I know, doctors recommend Virginia's limbs.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a I think it's My hope is

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Speaker 3: that it is a net zero placebo of nothing, because

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Speaker 1: I'm gelling smoke. It can't be good.

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Speaker 4: It can't be good.

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Speaker 1: Huh, but I'm don't stop me. I'll do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we'll have a little treat after taping. Oh fun,

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Speaker 4: I just like it.

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Speaker 3: It's really fun because I like to casually smoke cigarettes.

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Speaker 3: But then you don't want to be smoking cigarettes. So

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Speaker 3: if I just instead casually smoke a CBD cigarette, then

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that feels much more in liveable too, looks cool.

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Speaker 1: Do you take a little break, you go outside? You Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Even just doing that, I feel relaxed, you know.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about ghosts?

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Speaker 3: I they're real. Of course they're real. I think if

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Speaker 4: So and goes do you believe in aliens?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, how, come on, here's okay, here it is

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Speaker 3: step finally have my my my place and my time.

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Speaker 4: To say this.

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Speaker 1: Do you need a CPD cigarette?

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Speaker 4: I do. I'm gonna get too excited.

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Speaker 3: The only reason we have life is because we have

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Speaker 3: the right distance from the Sun. Right, we're not too close,

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Speaker 3: so it's Mars. We're not too far so it's Jupiter

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Speaker 2: This is the point we've never had anyone bring up ever. Yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Go for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like a see, I'm like this complete CBD like

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Speaker 4: So do you want to take that again?

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Speaker 3: I think you said I think you said you're not

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Speaker 3: Oh I've been humiliated.

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Speaker 4: Oh I would hate to see you.

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Speaker 3: Try shut my ass. I have a Yeah, you need

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Speaker 1: I feel like and you brought me here, and you

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Speaker 3: I've got nothing better to He's like my like frizzle

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Speaker 3: over there telling me what's what from Howard Stern Like

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Speaker 4: But no, but Mars is closer to the Sun right

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Speaker 1: Have you met Neil deGrasse Tyson. This is my friend.

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Speaker 1: Mars is farther from the Sun.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, and that you're gonna learn

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Speaker 4: You're gonna learn.

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Speaker 3: We're fighting? O my god, Mars is farther, do you now?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so wow, okay. But the point is still

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Speaker 3: And now we also know that there are millions and

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Speaker 3: It's insane to think, it is so crazy to think

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Speaker 3: like laughable, It's like funny, this is good, don't you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, babe, we're not the smartest ones.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just they're out there and I think they visited.

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Speaker 3: I'm really into crop circles. Really, I'm so into crop circles. Well,

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Speaker 3: Okay, because signs. No, I've actually never seen signs.

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Speaker 3: I like crop circles because I have seen two documentaries

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Speaker 4: Me an expert on the subject.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's fake ones and there's real ones, and we

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Speaker 1: Every part of it.

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Speaker 3: You can forensics and you can know exactly who, how many,

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Speaker 4: It's bent in the exact same place.

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Speaker 1: So how do you think that they're doing that? The aliens? Yeah, whatever,

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Speaker 3: And that's the only recorded video that has not been

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Speaker 3: So if you just google crop Circle documentaries, if nothing else,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm intrigued, Yes, yes, because I was just watching

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Speaker 2: have you seen Unsolved Mysteries? I watched the Alien one

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Speaker 2: there was somebody saw like a UFO with water either

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Speaker 2: coming I don't know if they said it was coming

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Speaker 3: Correcting a lake to a UFO. WHOA, I believe I

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm making this up. Maybe I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: I mean what I remember was the like really vivid

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Speaker 2: No, that's okay, I'm talking about a new season just

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the one that you saw. That's the one

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Speaker 1: I have, I have prove.

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Speaker 3: I looked around. There was a cab and nothing else.

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Speaker 3: After about two minutes of looking at it, I just

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Speaker 3: So I I tried to take a picture of this

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Speaker 3: It was just like a little thing the sky. You

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Speaker 1: I took like ten pictures.

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Speaker 4: What the fuck is that?

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense, Yeah, some kind of weather monitor,

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Speaker 4: We're all going to be wondering.

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Speaker 3: Trying to get our footage on TikTok, Like we're all

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like what I say about blimps. What's

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Speaker 2: So honey, we got dry places. Anyway, Well this is good.

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Speaker 2: This is I don't get a lot of UFO stories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here to I'm here to bring the UFOs

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Speaker 3: back to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, another thing that people say about UFOs

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Speaker 2: If you see a UFO once, you might get another one.

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Speaker 3: Might It's been a lifetime, been twelve years and none yet,

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Speaker 3: but hey maybe thirteen spooky thirteen years later I get

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Speaker 1: They're coming for you, They're coming for me. I love that.

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Speaker 4: I know. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was really very cool.

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Speaker 3: I woke up the next day and I was just like,

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Speaker 1: That's really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I like to hear about all the different models,

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Speaker 2: Like there's a lot different.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot. I think there's just.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, I think that there are fancier ones. I definitely

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Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of times it's I bet, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Go laugh at the people and planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think that it's see sometimes I think

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Speaker 2: like amateurs, you know, Roswell Crash, Like I don't watch

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Speaker 1: My name is Roz and I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: We should get back to the ghosts, okay, because we

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Speaker 4: You're a thing for a second, you know.

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Speaker 1: One time.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, I forget who this was, but somebody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, I want to tell you the story, okay,

447
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 3: of the exorcism of Roland Doe.

448
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: Is that real?

449
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: Yes, Roland Doe?

450
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: Well, no, here's the thing. It is a real story. Okay,

451
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: it's a very famous story. Okay, he Roland Doe.

452
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: Here's why this is, this story seems so real. This

453
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: is a real exorcism that took place in the nineteen forties.

454
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: The family and the boy that got exercise exercist exercise. Yeah,

455
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: they didn't want their names to be known. They were,

456
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: but they weren't looking for fame.

457
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't looking for clout, they weren't looking for followers.

458
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: So they just the name Roland Doe is what he's

459
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: known as.

460
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: Oh that okay, so that's like a fake.

461
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: That's a pseudonym to protect the identity of this very

462
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 3: read dingo boy. And what was the year on this again, well,

463
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: nineteen forty nine, okay, ish, So.

464
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: So I was about thirteen at the time.

465
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Steff, you look good.

466
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: This is.

467
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: This is a very famous case.

468
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: There's a lot to it, so I'm kind of given

469
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: in a bridge version.

470
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: These are highlights.

471
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: There's also a lot of conflicting facts that you'll find

472
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: out there. I watched a documentary about this on Discovery,

473
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: Plus I also did some research on different websites.

474
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: But here's the gist of the story.

475
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

476
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: It is what inspired William Peter Blattie to write The

477
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: Exorcist Okay. So this boy's thirteen. It's in the suburbs

478
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 2: of DC, and his real name wasn't released publicly, but

479
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: he's commonly known as Rolando or Robbie Mannheim. People believe

480
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: that his real name is Ronald Hunkler. Okay, listeners, I

481
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: know Hunkler, So he would if he was alive, which

482
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it's believed he still is.

483
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't know he'd be like in his eighties nineties.

484
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm not good at matter.

485
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: So this all started in January of nineteen forty nine.

486
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: His mother reports hearing dripping noises in her bedroom.

487
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm ready, okay, and scratching noises under her floorboards.

488
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Like, is this mice?

489
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: Like?

490
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: What's going on? Ye? So he's got an aunt Tilly

491
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: aunt named Telly.

492
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: You don't want to mess with ants.

493
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: With Aunt Tilly.

494
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: Well, Aunt Tilly was a spiritualist, and Aunt Tilly loved.

495
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: Nothing of that sort. Tilly's not like.

496
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: Actually Aunt Tilly invented She's well, she was very good

497
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: with a boy. Actually, speaking of podcasts names, fake podcast names,

498
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: what if.

499
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 4: I had a podcast called.

500
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: How do you spell that? Yeah, it's hard to spell.

501
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: I think I don't know how you find that. You

502
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: can only find it if you do like voice control.

503
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, I think it's more of a sort of

504
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: lives within the sort of cinematic universe of a scripted comedy.

505
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: I think it's great.

506
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: Thank you.

507
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: So aunt.

508
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: Aunt Tilly she loves a wija board, and she's teaching

509
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: him how to use a Wiji board, And so a

510
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: lot of people think that that's how they start getting

511
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: the drippy bedroom noises and the scratches. They think that's

512
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: what some people theorize is that it's because it's Aunt Tilly.

513
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: But then Aunt Tilly died, okay.

514
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: And so they're starting to think that maybe there's more

515
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: activity because of the ghost of Aunt Tilly. And after

516
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: her passing, the mother would ask out, like, Tilly, can

517
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: you knock three times?

518
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: And then she would like knock three times? Whoa? Oh god?

519
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: Really, so there was really tillyek and.

520
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: There was no one else in the house.

521
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: No, So then it starts ramping up a bit.

522
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: Now, Roland, he starts to hear like like a group

523
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: of people walking towards his bed at night. Yeah, feet

524
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: like squeaking on the ground.

525
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: Okay, there's claw like scratch marks that are discovered on

526
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: his mattress, and his mattress would move on its own.

527
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: At school, his desk would skid across the floor. Books

528
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: with fly all over the place, and people are like, Roland,

529
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: what the hell, and he's just like, it's not me Okay, yeah,

530
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: this is not It's not all fun and games over here.

531
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: This stuff gets real and scary. Yeah, all right, you're like,

532
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I'm getting more suspicious every with every turn.

533
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, well they called a reverend.

534
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: Okay, they're getting Jesus involved. Yeah, with your suspicions. This

535
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: is this is getting serious here. The reverend okay, shows up.

536
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: He invites Roland to stay the night at his church

537
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: house for observation. Okay, the minister or reverend, I'm not

538
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: really sure that. The next morning, well, he starts hearing

539
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: scratching sounds. Roland's bed is like shaking, vibrating.

540
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: Okay.

541
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: The chair tips over. His bed is like vibrating. And

542
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: then he's like, okay, Roland's sleep in this chair like

543
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: this upright chair. He's like, what the hell I came

544
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: here to like sleep?

545
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: Puts him in a chair. The chair flips over when

546
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: he's in it.

547
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, it kind of sounds like he's just

548
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: being a little prankster. But it does kind of sound

549
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: like that, and let me tell you, that's what a

550
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: lot of people do think. So at one point they

551
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: strap him down on a mattress. He breaks free, He

552
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: takes a he breaks off a piece of the mattress

553
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: spring and slashes one of the priest type people. I

554
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: think it was a priest from like shoulder to like

555
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: arm and he allegedly never recovered, like he kind of

556
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: always had arm props after that. Literally me, but keep going,

557
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: why do you have that? I have like a nerve

558
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: issue running down my shoulder to my finger.

559
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, he.

560
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: Was a ghost.

561
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: It could be.

562
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: So things are like getting real crazy with Roland. He's

563
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: getting scratches that are forming all over his body and

564
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: sometimes they spell different words. Okay, his mother said that

565
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: she witnessed them actually appearing on his body. They start

566
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: getting holy water and candles and crosses, and things are

567
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: getting worse. So they decide, okay, maybe we need to

568
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: like baptize him because he wasn't He wasn't.

569
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Baptized as of Christian answers. They were trying a lot

570
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: of different things.

571
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: We need a Christian solution to this in.

572
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: The Catholic Church, Like you can't just like perform an exorcism,

573
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: Like it has to be like approved by the archdiocese

574
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: and like the Vatican.

575
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: And I know how insurance works. Yes, is basically you

576
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: need approval.

577
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: There's no Copey though.

578
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it comes to an exorcism. So he so

579
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: they get him baptized, he goes into a rage. They decide, okay,

580
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: you've got to go to Georgetown Hospital for a couple

581
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: of days where a psychiatrist is treating him. His family

582
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: decides that it is time to get him out of

583
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: the house because a scratch appeared on his body and

584
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: it's spelled the word Lewis, And they said, that's a

585
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: sign that we have to go to Saint Louis, Missouri,

586
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: where they have family.

587
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: Yes, what and so it's Disney.

588
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: He's all Disney.

589
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: It's around Yeah, but yeah, exactly, that's a that's genius.

590
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: So I believe this is when the Catholic priests are

591
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: called in.

592
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: I believe.

593
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, I apologize that this is kind of all over

594
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: the place. I had a hard time trying to get

595
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: this story straight.

596
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Was shaking scratches everywhere I know.

597
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: But so they bring him to Saint Louis, Missouri, where

598
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: his relatives live, and they bless him. They say a prayer,

599
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: they put a crucifix under his pillow. Then they start

600
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: like it's weird because.

601
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm getting a ghost is entered in my mind. No,

602
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm just doing a next stretch.

603
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: It seems like things are only bad for him at nighttime.

604
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they start to hear like a

605
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: racket coming from his room, and then like things are better,

606
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: and then like a racket from the room.

607
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: The look you're giving me.

608
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: So they go into his room one day and a

609
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: bookcase has been moved, a bench has flipped over, and

610
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: a crucifix is on the edge on the other side

611
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: of the bed. His bed is shaking violently while he's

612
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: on it. The relative is like.

613
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Aunt Tilly, you better not that shit off.

614
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: But I don't think it was Aunt Tilly. I think

615
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: this was a full on demon, is what they believe.

616
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: Another story says that at one point he was on

617
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: a train ride with a priest and they were going

618
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: from his hometown to Saint Louis, and this is just

619
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: what everybody online. Roland was repeatedly striking the priest between

620
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: the legs, shouting, this is a nutcracker for you, isn't it.

621
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so he's got joke.

622
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: This ghost has ten minutes.

623
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, it's more than I got at

624
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: this point.

625
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: So they decide to do like a I think this

626
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: is when they do the exorcism.

627
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm confused.

628
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 2: It seems like there was like exorcism type things happening

629
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: until it got to the final exorcism.

630
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Don't worry, I'll wrap this up.

631
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: So they this goes on for a full month, like

632
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: this exorcism. They are moving him from his house to

633
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: the hospital, back and forth. He was cursing, he was vomiting,

634
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: he was urinating. He was speaking in Latin, which is

635
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: not a language that he knew.

636
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: The word help appeared on his skin. Objects would fly around.

637
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: He would be fine during the day, he'd get crazy

638
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: at night. Already said that.

639
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: Sounds like my niece.

640
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: He received a holy communion, and it is said that

641
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: a portrait of the devil with his arms stretched out

642
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: above his head appeared.

643
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: On Roland's calf. I don't know how, but it did.

644
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: At one point, the priest said that the bed levitated

645
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: eight inches. Don't look at me when I said eight inches.

646
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: He said that it levitated eight inches.

647
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a nutcracker for you. There's a nutcracker for you.

648
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: There's a dua lipa song levite.

649
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: So is that what that's about? I think it is,

650
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: really I don't know. So the exorcism ended. Okay, we're

651
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: getting to the end finally. Okay, you seem so bored.

652
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: It's boring.

653
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: This is boring? Is that? Yeah?

654
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Why is it so boring?

655
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: Because I'm just like, there's no way to find out

656
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: if this is real or fake. And I'm just like, Okay,

657
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: this sounds like every other exorcism driver in my life.

658
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: But this is like the first. This is the one

659
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: that that inspired all the others.

660
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 4: Okay, that's you gotta respect.

661
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: You have to respect first, you do, Okay, finish.

662
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: So it ended because.

663
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: He's at the hospital and he's having a violent outburst

664
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: and he's shouting that Saint Michael is casting out satan

665
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: from his body.

666
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: His voice is getting deeper than usual.

667
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: He wakes up and he goes he's gone, and he

668
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: said that I just had a vision of Saint Michael

669
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: holding a flaming sword and that was it.

670
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: Okay. I allegedly the hospital boarded up the room.

671
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: That the exorcist took place, and that's what some people say. Uh,

672
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: the family never went to the They completely remained anonymous.

673
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Investigative reporters have tracked them down and they want nothing

674
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: to do with it.

675
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, why would you want anything.

676
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people sell books, they sell movie

677
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: rights they like, yeah.

678
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: So you can kind of really monetize them.

679
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: So it's that's what it makes it seem a little

680
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: bit more real to me.

681
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think that just you know,

682
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: he was just a teenage boy as you thought as well.

683
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: And apparently maybe this is like mental illness, this is

684
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: like nineteen forty nine.

685
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: Well they did have now short embellishments psychiatry, you know it.

686
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: We're not quite as advanced as lunatic being probably the

687
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: priest or the reverend is what I.

688
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 4: Mean by lunatic.

689
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: But here's what I'm saying, though, even though we're not

690
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: as advances, or we're more advanced now than we were

691
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: in ninety forty nine by far. But he was evaluated

692
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: in the hospitals sure like mentally, so it kind of

693
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: leads you to believe that maybe some of this could

694
00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: be real.

695
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

696
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: Isn't it weird that my brain is so open to UFOs?

697
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: But this, I'm like, whoey a bunch of whoy?

698
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Were you raised with religious?

699
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: He needs apple cider, vinegar.

700
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: A little witch hazel toner? Were you raised fine religion?

701
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: Clear that that devil? Right up?

702
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: I was not really raised with religion. I mean, I'm

703
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: Jewish and we did stuff, but not really.

704
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: I was raised with Catholicism.

705
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: So this, to me is that's really hitting.

706
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: This is news, This is facts to me.

707
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why, actually, maybe that's why, maybe it could

708
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: be What do you Okay, so what do you think

709
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: about the Long Island Medium Long Island Medium Theresa Caputo?

710
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: I think that she.

711
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting if it's fake, and that's

712
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: why I think it's real. I think she's one hundred

713
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: percent real.

714
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: But when you asked me what I think about her,

715
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: my first thought is can you reply to my emails?

716
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Teresa? Oh?

717
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: Because I have tried so many times to get her

718
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: on this podcast.

719
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not about that what I'm just saying all

720
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: the time.

721
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, never mind, Teresa, Teresa. I'm looking to

722
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: the camera. Teresa Caputo, please reply to my emails. I

723
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: want you on this podcast. You want to hear about

724
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: some haunted eBay dolls.

725
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: I do, But I also just want to say that

726
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: I think Teresa Caputo is a unique talent and it's real,

727
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 3: and I think if you think it's fake, that's fine.

728
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: But I think if it's fake, that takes way more

729
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: work than if it's real, and that is so much

730
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: more interesting.

731
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: And actually the.

732
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: Way that people treat it as like, which is fake,

733
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 3: it's like, wait, hold on, think about what that would

734
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: mean if it was fake for her to build for

735
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: any of these like sort of famous mediums, to build

736
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: these empires on this fake thing, right, that's huge. Well,

737
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: that's fascinating. See, that's that's a story I want to

738
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 3: hear about.

739
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: I think, because here's the thing. When they get into

740
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: entertainment and television, I'm not going to say that it's

741
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: fake or it's not or whatever. I think that like,

742
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: let's let's compare it to singing. For example, a singer,

743
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: which is fake sometimes Now a singer, if they're a

744
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: good singer, n percent of the time, they're gonna nail it.

745
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: They're going to be amazing when they're not always going

746
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: to be Sometimes they have to edit things just a

747
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: little bit because it has to be entertaining.

748
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: I think it's possible that TV mediums sometimes differs absolutely

749
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: cut out the parts when they're wrong. We never see

750
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: them being wrong. I guarantee that they are wrong sometimes,

751
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: and that's fine.

752
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: They're human. Yeah, people are wrong. People have bad days

753
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: of work.

754
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: Oh my god, say that.

755
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: I always say this about psychic Really, I think that

756
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: I give psychics the better for the doubt. I don't

757
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: think that they're always right. What do I say, listeners?

758
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: If they're always right, they would be our God. That's

759
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: just how I believe with Psycha.

760
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: So and I think that she's really good and I

761
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: think she does really good stuff for people.

762
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: And the thing is she gets the names right. And

763
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: for the nail industry too.

764
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: Yes, she's done huge, huge thing for the nail industry.

765
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: For whatever that hair shape is called.

766
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: She did invent that. Hairstyles. You you have to give

767
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: that to her. Yeah, she invented it.

768
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: That's a hairdo.

769
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: Yes hair.

770
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: Did you see the one where she's on like Anderson

771
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: Cooper and she starts going she goes there's a grandma

772
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: or something like that, and then Anderson's like and then

773
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: she's just kind of like, She's like, there's a grandma.

774
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: And then the camera like gets all blurry and turns,

775
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: and then you see the guy holding the boom and

776
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: he's like yeah, and then she starts reading the boom.

777
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: Guy he's in tears because he had a grandma like whatever.

778
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: The details where I can't remember, but it's one of

779
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: those things where it's like and then people say all that,

780
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: that's what they always say on the shows. The person

781
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: who's in tears goes like, there is no way she could.

782
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: Have known that.

783
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: I've talked to multipeople that have been to her. I've

784
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: talked to multiple people. Yes, private citizens who paid seven

785
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: trillion to see her.

786
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Celebrities but and Hollywood medium.

787
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: And did they pay to see her?

788
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: No, just people that have been on their shows.

789
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 4: They've been on the show.

790
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've all told me. Both Tyler Henry and her

791
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: nailed it completely. How would they have known that? Yes,

792
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: we're public figures, but how would they now? Childhood friend

793
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 2: you know whatever? Yes, So anyway, wow, haunted.

794
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: eBay dolls hanted Okay, so what I do is I

795
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: go to eBay and I look up haunted eBay dolls.

796
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: Okay, and I'll give you a choice. We'll just do

797
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: one of them.

798
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: Okay.

799
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: You can have a choice out of one that is evil.

800
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Or one that's a sexual wrenched sexual.

801
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Nudist, a sexual nudist, like a nudist that's also very

802
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: sexual doll.

803
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: Because you might be I don't even know what that means.

804
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Okay. So the belief in the eBay doll world, since.

805
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: This is the pilot of Grades anatomy, but it's evil

806
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: doll world.

807
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Yes, welcome to my community, the haunted eBay doll. It's

808
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: believed that these dolls have a spirit attached to them.

809
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: They are merely a vessel.

810
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: Okay.

811
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: So I'm going to tell you the biography included with them, okay,

812
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: which includes a biography of the spirit.

813
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: Gotcha. Got So the doll isn't a newdist but the ghost.

814
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: Was the ghost is or an evil one. I think

815
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm leaning evil right because the newdest one.

816
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, I'm not a child, Okay, I'm not

817
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: giggling because because they're naked.

818
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Here's John John Is giving Santa Claus at Coachella.

819
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: Like that's exactly right.

820
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: John has on flip flaps. He's got a long one appropriation. Yeah, well,

821
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: there's a lot of towels and I'm not sure where

822
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: they're from, but I don't think I don't think that

823
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: man should be wearing those tassels. Yeah, that's possible. Very Yeah,

824
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: he's holding a flower.

825
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: He's got long kind of Willie Nelson type hair, hippie

826
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, but some indigenous accents to his outfits. I

827
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, okay, so this is John, and let

828
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: me tell you a little bit about John. John is

829
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: currently going for thirty eight dollars okay, not bad eight

830
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: dollars and fifty cents shipping. And it says that John

831
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: is negative. He was in his fifties during the time. Okay,

832
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: this is the man of the doll who could know?

833
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: Who could not?

834
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it morphs.

835
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: So John was in his fifties by the time he

836
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: was passed by the time he died. When John was alive,

837
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: he was doing a lot of illegal things. He was

838
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: selling drugs and money laundering, and it caught up with him.

839
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: The FEDS arrested John in the late sixties and sentenced

840
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: him to fifteen years while locked up in a prison.

841
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: A riot broke out and unfortunately he was killed and

842
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: he ended up burning alive also and it was horrific

843
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: and he passed away, and he's really angry about it.

844
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: It says, I asked John if he was married, and

845
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: he says maybe, he does not confirm, or no, he

846
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: does confirm that he has two kids, a son and

847
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: a daughter. So for thirty eight dollars, I could buy

848
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: you John.

849
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you feel about that?

850
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 4: I mean, that is a haunting story.

851
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: Do you believe it's real?

852
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: It is John in the room.

853
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: No, I haven't bought him yet, but I okay, what

854
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: do you buy these dolls?

855
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: No?

856
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: I never have, but it says that I could get

857
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: it between Tuesdays and Thursday next week for you if

858
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: you would like.

859
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 4: Okay, are you asking?

860
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you want him? Sure? No, I'll take it.

861
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: You would actually want this haunted? But there's a chance

862
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: that this could be real. I know, I know, I know,

863
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: and then it's haunted, and then you're having and then.

864
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: Now you're stuck with this angry little Willie Nelson doll.

865
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.

866
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: Mean yeah, I would No, I would not. I would

867
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: not invite that into my life. That is the truth.

868
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: Do you believe that that's a pot? Like that kind

869
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: of thing could be real?

870
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: I believe in thirty eight dollars And what else I

871
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: can you with that money? Like?

872
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: What close you a nice dinner?

873
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

874
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Four packs of CBD cigarettes or one back of regular cigaret? Yeah? Okay,

875
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: Well anyway.

876
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to hear some ghost voices?

877
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: I would love to.

878
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: It's time for ev P.

879
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: H E EV please extra voice Electronic voice phenomena.

880
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, electronic voice phenomenon. So what I do? I go

881
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: to YouTube, I type an ev P S.

882
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: Okay, I find.

883
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: EVPs, Okay, I play.

884
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: This is fun Okay, So this is like this is

885
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: a recording of the news and then there's this weird

886
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: sound at the end.

887
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: Now, it's usually on a ghost hunt, usually people looking

888
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: for ghosts.

889
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 4: Gotcha? Gotcha?

890
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

891
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna play you too, and I want

892
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: you to tell me what this ghost is saying.

893
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: The first one. You're gonna want headphones for this. The

894
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: first one is from.

895
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: East Coast Paranormal and it was recorded at an iconic

896
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: haunted place, the haunted Hinsdale House in Hinsdale.

897
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: New York. Okay, I'm from New York. Have you ever

898
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: been to Hinsdale?

899
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

900
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: Okay, what is this ghost? Say? What is that ghost saying?

901
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: That ghost is a bucket drummer who was warming up? Yeah,

902
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: there is like a yeah, there's no, it's not that.

903
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: It's a you don't hear that? I do?

904
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: But do it again?

905
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't saying something.

906
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: I'll give you some options, Okay, And then is it

907
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: a okay bitch?

908
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: Okay?

909
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Is it b I'm dead? Okay, see, I'll get it.

910
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe there's someone at the door, or is it

911
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: d I'm canceled?

912
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: Hit it again. It kind of sounds like you're saying

913
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm canceled.

914
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Nobody.

915
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: It's you're hearing a third syllable. I'm not hearing. I'm

916
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: hearing play again.

917
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm dead. Yeah, that's what they think it's saying.

918
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: That's what they think it's saying, Yeah, I'm dead.

919
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: Is there any context around this? Like? Where are they?

920
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Why are Ansdale House?

921
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: Okay? And they're just walking around? And why is the

922
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 4: clip so short?

923
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: What do you think the ghost is gonna do? Tell

924
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: a whole story?

925
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: I just I mean the actual clip, like the can

926
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: be short. But why is there nothing before or after it?

927
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Because I cut it out because we don't have time

928
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: for all that.

929
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: Oh okay, this is just what is this for? The banking?

930
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: Is just there? Probably machinery or.

931
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: They're walking or something. Sure, Okay, I'll give you another chance.

932
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to hear a sentence. I don't have

933
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: any of that. Okay, it takes a lot of energy

934
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: for a ghol.

935
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: So but they might not be speaking English, Okay, yeah,

936
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: maybe not.

937
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: They might be speaking any language.

938
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: This was posted.

939
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: This is posted by Matt Hilton. Okay, and it's at

940
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: a private residence. Okay, that's a little bit more clear,

941
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: I think again. Yeah, that's a human voice.

942
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't it sounds like they're using like a trimmer. Yeah,

943
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: there's like a boom. Swimy sway, that's what I hearing. Swimy,

944
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: slay me, slay me, slay me.

945
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: Okay, is it a it's Wendy Maybe they love Wendy's.

946
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: Is it B swanky C I'm angry? Or D slay me.

947
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: I'm hearing swanky.

948
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hearing like maybe a Hillary swank fan swank

949
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: swank me give me a Hillary. That's what every director

950
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: in Hollywood says, swank me.

951
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm you know what I'm actually hearing

952
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: is like the connective tissue between two longer words.

953
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

954
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: Okay?

955
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: Like why give me an example, Like, Okay, let's say

956
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: I just said, do you know what I mean? Mm hmm,

957
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: and you just heard like you know what you're missing

958
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: the D and that what I mean? You're just kidding

959
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 3: the you know what.

960
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: The swank mean?

961
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you're just get like we're just getting like

962
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: it's unintelligible because it's it's actually half of two words

963
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: as part of a sentence, and we would need the

964
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: piece before and the piece after to really even clock.

965
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

966
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Do you get that right? That's what I'm hearing. Okay,

967
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the last.

968
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: Two letters of one word and the first three of

969
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: the next word.

970
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, what matters here is what Matt Hilton is hearing?

971
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: And what did Matt Hilton hear?

972
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: It's Wendy, bitch.

973
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: It kind of sounds like you're saying, it's Wendy.

974
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 4: No, it's Wendy.

975
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: It's Wendy.

976
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: Who's Wendy?

977
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: The Ghosts and the Private Residence.

978
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: Is that her name?

979
00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

980
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: Oh, that's another one.

981
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how we figured out taking it. That's it. Okay,

982
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: let's do one last thing.

983
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just gonna say a bunch of paranormal things

984
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: and just tell me if something comes up, if you

985
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: believe in it, if you have a story, okay, any

986
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff. What do you think of

987
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: like witchcraft and magically.

988
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: I love the craft, I love hocus focus. I I

989
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: believe it enough for sure. Surely you know people that

990
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: practice not that I know of.

991
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: Not Actually, I mean I have lots of friends of

992
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: crystals and stuff. I have a crystal that I like,

993
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: which one I don't know. I think it's quartz. I

994
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 3: think it's just clear clear chords. Probably it's just quartz. Yeah,

995
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: I think there's something to it.

996
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, what do you think of demons? Do you

997
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: believe that that's real? Because it didn't seem like you

998
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: did when I was telling you about Roland Doe.

999
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: Do I think the demons are real? Wait?

1000
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: Is I I just realized like I'm rolling in the dough?

1001
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1002
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Is that why you thought that? Like or even just dough,

1003
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: like rolling out dough? Oh?

1004
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: My god, do that seems like a drag can? Yes,

1005
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: that works for tips, like.

1006
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god.

1007
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I was like this, We're off to

1008
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: a silly start.

1009
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: Right, But the question was, oh, demons, Do I think

1010
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: demons are real?

1011
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I do, I really do.

1012
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: I went to I was in London recently and I

1013
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: went to the London Tower and there's like a there's

1014
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: like a chamber where they would put like anyone who

1015
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: they decided like if they you know, the laws were

1016
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: like crazy then, and they were like if you looked.

1017
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: At the king weird a few weeks ago.

1018
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the queen just died. The laws are

1019
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: just crazy there. No, but this was probably from like

1020
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: I don't like a long long long, like really long

1021
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: timego a crazy long time ago.

1022
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: And they were showing us all like the torture devices,

1023
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: which were.

1024
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: One of them.

1025
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: It's like a metal shell and you go inside of it,

1026
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: and the whole point of the torture is just that

1027
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: you're squished, and you're not literally I think it's a

1028
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: lot of different ways of getting squished. But the thing

1029
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: is it's not like it's like it's not They had

1030
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: one that stretched you until you ripped, and that was

1031
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: scary obviously, but something about this one was even creepier

1032
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 3: because it was just like it was so mean, Like

1033
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: it was like if you put someone in a crouched

1034
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: position where it's like their knees or at their neck,

1035
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 3: and it's just so uncomfortable and you're not even you're

1036
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: not you're not actually being compressed, you're just being.

1037
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: Squished, and then they leave you like that.

1038
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

1039
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: Isn't that so so so fucked?

1040
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: Ah, I don't like that. I don't like that.

1041
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: And then okay, and then there was a there's a

1042
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: bridge where they bring them in and it's like big,

1043
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: like all those people who like the prisoners who going

1044
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: to get tortured. There was a there's like a they

1045
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: take them by water, and then there's a there's an

1046
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 3: entrance to this castle.

1047
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: Basically you know, it's.

1048
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: All very protected because it's it's a castle, and it's like,

1049
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: you know, everyone has a bone arrow and so you

1050
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: come in through this like thing and it's like water

1051
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: and there's like a there's like an old gate that's

1052
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 3: a real gate that's still there. And I also have

1053
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: sub mechanophobia. It's come to my attention recently, I have

1054
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: sub mecanophobia, the fear of like submerged mechanics in water.

1055
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 4: They just they make my skin crawl.

1056
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.

1057
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: I know it's very it's I don't know, I don't know,

1058
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: but it's a thing. What started it was the Jaws

1059
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 3: movie and and like realizing like there can be fake

1060
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: mechanics in the water and you can't see them, and

1061
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 3: maybe you interact with them and touch them and they're fake,

1062
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: but they feel real and you don't know what they are.

1063
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: And then if you start to like it was brought

1064
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: to my attention recently on a date. I was telling

1065
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: him about I have a fear of, like not one

1066
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: of my biggest fears is not the movie Jaws, but

1067
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: the ride Jaws at Universal. Yeah, And the idea of

1068
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: like getting into that water and not knowing what's in

1069
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: the water and then suddenly stepping on like what would

1070
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: feel like a train track like that is like I'm so,

1071
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like someone on Maury's with the pickles.

1072
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: Like you know, you know what mine is? What pickles?

1073
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: No?

1074
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: Yes, no, I've gotten better. There was a time. There

1075
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 3: was a time in my life where I could not

1076
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: look at them. I couldn't sit at a table if

1077
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: people were eating pickles, I couldn't eat until all the

1078
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: pickles were gone.

1079
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: Well, and can you can you explain?

1080
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: I think that they the smell, the it's mainly the juice,

1081
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 3: the look of a fear.

1082
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: Number it was I.

1083
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: Call it an extreme disgust, but it was. My sisters

1084
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: would like chase me around the house with a pickle,

1085
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: Like the thought of a pickle touching me.

1086
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: Is really scared.

1087
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, I understand.

1088
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's and now it's what it's always been

1089
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: snakes for me. Yeah, to a point where it's debilitating. Really, yeah,

1090
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: I can't be I don't even go hiking anymore because

1091
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 2: there's snakes.

1092
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 4: Oh god.

1093
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1094
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: So there is a certain sub mechanophobia of looking at

1095
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: that gate in that green water, because I'm just going

1096
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: if you drop me in there and I don't know

1097
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: what's in there, and I'm touching shells and barnacles and

1098
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 3: bars and like, that's really scary to me. But I

1099
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: think there is something extremely demonic happening there.

1100
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Yeah, now we're getting to but.

1101
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think that there is something

1102
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: to be said about like a haunted demonic space.

1103
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do believe that.

1104
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: Final answer, like a fifteen minute ride.

1105
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, mechanics underwater, so mecanaphobia.

1106
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: Look it up.

1107
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: It's like mostly like sunken ships, and like there's one

1108
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: there's one picture of a sunken plane that is like

1109
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: deeply terrifying. Oh, like it's blurry, but it's it's so

1110
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: close to you. But because the water is so green,

1111
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: it's so blurry. But when you can see it, you

1112
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: realize you are so close to this huge plane. I'm

1113
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: so afraid of sharks, the thought of like falling off

1114
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: of like.

1115
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: A boat yeah yeah in the ocean. Yeah, the panic

1116
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: that I would have to get me out of that.

1117
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: So I just don't even do it.

1118
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Literally, Yeah, it's so scary.

1119
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: It's so scary.

1120
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: Okay, how about Bigfoot? She real.

1121
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: I really don't. I really don't feel that. I really

1122
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: don't feel that.

1123
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: Why don't you feel it?

1124
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1125
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like.

1126
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: Every animal has been so like explored and studied and found.

1127
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: We don't talk about fossils and like all these things.

1128
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't think that there's just like one.

1129
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't think so. It just seems that seems so

1130
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 3: far fetched, Like so it lives forever, but it's it's

1131
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: it's organic and it lives forever.

1132
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, how it's magical.

1133
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh but you saw a Marquee ufo in Hollywood.

1134
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: But that's not magical. That's science. Like those are light bulbs.

1135
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: There's nothing magical about aliens. That's the thing.

1136
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: You know.

1137
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: It's not magic, it's aliens. But why wouldn't Bigfoot be

1138
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: because why is he alive for it?

1139
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: Like or like what is I don't Maybe if show

1140
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: me the right docu, show me the right two documentaries,

1141
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 3: and I will believe Bigfoot. But I'm just like he

1142
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: supposed to be alive forever, and he's like like.

1143
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 4: A grizzly animal.

1144
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm just like, obviously, someone just saw a grizzly animal.

1145
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: I think it's magical, you really do.

1146
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: Well.

1147
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: I believe that anything's possible. I think that there's things

1148
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: that I can't understand that are real. Yeah, and I

1149
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: think that Bigfoot can appear and disappear.

1150
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 3: Okay, she teleports, yes, Okay, she's all over the place.

1151
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: Every state has.

1152
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's exciting.

1153
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: What I saw the right documentary about dragons, and it

1154
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: was not you know, presenting dragons are real, but it

1155
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: was presenting a lot of interesting information. And one of

1156
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: them was every civilization from like the Dawn of like

1157
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: Man had a dragon in their storytelling, and you know,

1158
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: these are separatedzations that are not interacting with each other.

1159
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: And then goes all had dragons, a flying lizard that

1160
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: is fire breathing, all had it, which is very cool.

1161
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's how like UFOs and they.

1162
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: Even went so far as to like, if it was

1163
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: maybe real, how do you explain the fire breathing And

1164
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: they kind of found like a flimsy way to be

1165
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 3: like it doesn't breathe fire, but like it like there's

1166
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: a there's a type of rock that is like sparks flammable,

1167
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: and they're like maybe they're like grinding their teeth on

1168
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: it so at times, like there's fire around their mouths,

1169
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: but like.

1170
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, they were like really and they go, how

1171
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: does it fly?

1172
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: It's so big? And then they're like maybe.

1173
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: There's like a gas sack in their body.

1174
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: They like really went as far to just be like, oh,

1175
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: here's how it could be, and and here's what we have.

1176
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: It was very interesting.

1177
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: But also what if we just can't explain it?

1178
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1179
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 1: What if it just is and now it's not here?

1180
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: I have, I have back pay that a doctor can't explain.

1181
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: So paranormal start there, long island medium, dony thing about it?

1182
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: Tell me about last question? Synchronicities? Oh is that something

1183
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: that you read into?

1184
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: Wait? What is it?

1185
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: Just like in life, like things that work out perfectly?

1186
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw a sign and this happened.

1187
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: I believe in that.

1188
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: I literally do. And I know that's so gay, but

1189
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: I believe it. I mean, it's it's gay, but yeah,

1190
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: it's real. I believe it. I do.

1191
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, here's here's what I'll say about it.

1192
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: If it happens to me, it's synchronicity. If it happens

1193
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: to you stupid fool like extra yeah yeah, but if

1194
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 3: it happens to me, it's real and you better respect it.

1195
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: When I when I think of the time it's happened

1196
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: to you, yeah, I.

1197
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: Just feel like, like just honestly, it's like scheduling stuff.

1198
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: You know, when things.

1199
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: Just like work out that you just had like an

1200
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: incredible month and you think about you know, I think

1201
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: about it a lot now, like with COVID in mind

1202
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: of like there's so many things that can go wrong

1203
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: and stand in the way of like exciting things happening

1204
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: for you more, it feels like there's just more than ever.

1205
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: So when things work.

1206
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 3: Out, it's just feels like I do feel every day that,

1207
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: like I have a good day, I'm like, that's God,

1208
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 3: and that is God. Like I do feel that. Is

1209
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: that crazy? You're looking at me crazy?

1210
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: No? No, I think it's great. Yeah, I feel like

1211
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: just think about that kind of stuff. But then also

1212
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: like a.

1213
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: On a broader scale, like I don't know, Like I

1214
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: just feel like when if you feel like really connected

1215
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: to something good and you feel for whatever reason like

1216
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: you either I would say deserve it. But when I

1217
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: say deserve, I mean in the way that everyone deserves love.

1218
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, like you're receiving this love that you deserve.

1219
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel it feels like it?

1220
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1221
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: Don't you just think about your like dead uncles smiling

1222
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 3: down on you?

1223
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I do. I literally do. I think

1224
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: about that.

1225
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you been to a psychic?

1226
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: And then on the flip side of that, though anything

1227
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: bad happens, I go this is the devil. I deserve

1228
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: this smiting me take it. And it's like very stressful.

1229
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm like constantly on this, like I really need to

1230
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: chill out.

1231
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm like an angel.

1232
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: Bad things happen, I'm a devil, and I'm just like

1233
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm just It started with being closeted. Being closeted is

1234
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: like you're the devil. You're like you're the devil or

1235
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: the devil. You're the devil.

1236
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 4: Like there's something deeply wrong inside of you.

1237
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: It's growing, it's going to take over the world, like

1238
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: you can't stop it, like that kind of thing, Like

1239
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 3: there's that feeling of like inherent wrongness and you have

1240
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 3: a signed this sort of like red fiery thing, do it.

1241
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: I think that's where it started. And then yeah, and

1242
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 3: then when good things happen, you feel like I'm I

1243
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: don't know, I just I'm like heaven and hell, Heaven

1244
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: in Hell, Heaven in Hell.

1245
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

1246
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: About all the time. It's like too, it's like it's

1247
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: really not healthy.

1248
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 4: Do you feel that.

1249
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't put it in those words.

1250
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't look at it like it's heaven and hell

1251
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 3: or devil and angels or anything necessarily.

1252
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: But to be.

1253
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: I also don't like, I don't like sit around in

1254
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: my car and thinking about like heaven and angels and stuff.

1255
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: But it just that's the feeling, that's the imagery.

1256
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 4: Maybe have you been to a psychic.

1257
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: I have, And she told she was right. I mean

1258
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 3: it was like a really kind of just like surface level.

1259
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 4: And I was young. I was like probably like.

1260
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: Fifteen sixteen, and I was like with my cousin in

1261
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: Brooklyn at like a block party and there was like

1262
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: a there's a psychic somewhere like and we went up

1263
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: into the psychics like office and and.

1264
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: She was and she just told me, like she just

1265
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: told me, go to Hollywood.

1266
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 4: She was like, go to Hollywood.

1267
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: And you know, that's like such a silly thing, and

1268
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: it's like, okay.

1269
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 4: But I did go.

1270
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: What were you thinking about it?

1271
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: I mean I was a child actor already, so I

1272
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: was like already like you know in that you know,

1273
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: on that path. But I wasn't thinking about it. I

1274
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: was not I was not thinking about moving to LA.

1275
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know anyone in LA and.

1276
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't back.

1277
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I didn't do it, because she said, because

1278
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 3: I didn't move for like a few years after that,

1279
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: and I remember even in the moment of her telling

1280
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 3: me to go to Hollywood, like, I don't know, like

1281
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: it just kind of seemed like a like a silly thing,

1282
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: a silly fake psychic might.

1283
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: Tell you, you know.

1284
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 4: But I also was like I might.

1285
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it matters if they're

1286
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: like an expensive psychic or Teresa Caputo.

1287
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: Teresa trying to conjure her. Yeah, they can be right,

1288
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: they can be right.

1289
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: Have you had have you had some powerful psychic experiences?

1290
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: So many?

1291
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: Really?

1292
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: Tons? Is there like one that you're like, this is

1293
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: the person? No?

1294
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean sort of. I mean again, I

1295
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: think that they can have bad days. You know, Hey, Jared,

1296
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: where do where do people find you? And what do

1297
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: you want them to know about?

1298
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: You can? When does this come out?

1299
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: Two weeks?

1300
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 4: In two weeks?

1301
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: Okay, you can find me at Hay Jared Hey on Instagram?

1302
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 4: What am I doing in two weeks? Nothing?

1303
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: All right?

1304
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: Ask me out. I'm single?

1305
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, guys, my favorite gay demon.

1306
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's single, is single?

1307
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: And don't you dare go on a date near electronics

1308
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: in the water mechanics, mechanics and the submerged.

1309
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 4: Or maybe take me and we can face my fear together.

1310
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're scared.

1311
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 4: Scare.

1312
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much much to Jared Goldstein.

1313
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, go check out that YouTube video version

1314
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: of that episode.

1315
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry.

1316
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be back next week, but make

1317
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: sure you're subscribed because I'll be back the next week

1318
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: and write the.

1319
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: Show five stars.

1320
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: Do a nice little review if you can.

1321
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: Send me your ghost stories. I have some episodes.

1322
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: Coming up where I am reading ghost stories with my

1323
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: guests and I love doing that, so please do that

1324
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: either in a five star review, or you could email

1325
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: me at ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com. Or

1326
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: you could also send me for a listener episode. Just

1327
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: put in the subject line listener episode and I guess

1328
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: that's it, so I will talk to you in two weeks.

1329
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead.

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Speaker 3: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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