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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast has never played in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan and coming to you from a

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Speaker 1: stadium that is filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenhal. What is up, boys? Hey dam hey,

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Speaker 1: we got prop prop comp the Gallagher of NFL podcasters.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be comfortable. Mark, you have shown

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Speaker 1: up to today's show at Lucas Oil Stadium in the

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Speaker 1: heart of downtown Indianapolis in a full bathroom covering your clothes.

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Speaker 1: Take us through the thought process. The thing I love

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Speaker 1: about Indianapolis and the reason it was my favorite Super

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Speaker 1: system or in above ground that allows you to you know,

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Speaker 1: float from one massive indoor complex to the next without

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Speaker 1: facing Mother Nature on any level. And uh so I

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Speaker 1: was wearing this in the hotel a little bit of

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Speaker 1: you know, self care time, and decided why change? But

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Speaker 1: then you took it off because you would have been

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Speaker 1: ashamed to walk in front of strangers for the entire

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Speaker 1: walk here and then put it back on here. So

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Speaker 1: you know, Greg is as he has wanted to do

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Speaker 1: utterly destroying what he would call a bit. I'd say

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Speaker 1: it's a very organic process. Here here is the test

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Speaker 1: now not well, not the test that would that's too strong.

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Speaker 1: I can see some chest hair or something that would

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Speaker 1: be nice. I asked if you could take the T

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Speaker 1: I know you got it. I've seen it and it's impressive.

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Speaker 1: Got some nice lettuce on the packs. I mean it

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Speaker 1: would and it would probably end the show, or at

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Speaker 1: least my but element of the show. If you really

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Speaker 1: do want to take that next step into kind of

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Speaker 1: the realm of Cosmo Cramer, where you're kind of like

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Speaker 1: the eccentric middle aged guy you walk back to the

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Speaker 1: hotel with the romance not saying not not saying you

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Speaker 1: should or it's we want you to just like that

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Speaker 1: going to and not eight conversations about it with people.

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Speaker 1: We just it is. It is what it is. I'd

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Speaker 1: say you're already seen as the eccentric middle age group.

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Speaker 1: You don't need as we go by a bunch of

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Speaker 1: it was like, hey, do you guys go everywhere together?

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Speaker 1: It's like entourage. I would like the idea of the

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreegor, we have an update on the show a

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Speaker 1: Mark ranked Pete quite low, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: in his NFL Media Powder rankings. Not many people getting

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Speaker 1: away with and Pete, well, you know, good morning football.

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Speaker 1: You know we're guys together, so basically part of that.

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Speaker 1: So um, we're here at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Rainy,

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine. As you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're a longtime listener to the show, if you don't know,

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Speaker 1: if you're a newer listener and welcome. UH. They send

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Speaker 1: a bunch of schedule changes here at the Combine. It's

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Speaker 1: getting crazy because they're moving a lot of the actual

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Speaker 1: I'm not I haven't tracted that closely. And they're moving

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Speaker 1: I think like teams spoke today, so your team should

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Speaker 1: care about ten years in a row because Belichick spelled

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Speaker 1: the worst Cowboys. I didn't see anybody from the Cowboys today.

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Speaker 1: the way this whole ownership into coaching and overall organizational

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard and the Colt. You're already married. It's it's

430
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Speaker 1: too late to get out of it. But this is

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Speaker 1: all good. I'm trying it together. This is all gonna

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Speaker 1: pay off. It's all gonna make sense. They've been dating

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Speaker 1: for a while. Jacoby, We're setting the Colts. It's serious.

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Speaker 1: Their families are intertwined at this point. They like each other.

435
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Speaker 1: They've been to holiday parties where their families know each other.

436
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Speaker 1: It's hard to disentangle at this point. The Colts wish

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Prisette, well, they like they like him as a person,

438
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Speaker 1: but they're not in love, and you can't force being

439
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Speaker 1: in love, so they're gonna try to find someone else

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Speaker 1: to marry. That's what's going on. I you know, one

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Speaker 1: thing I took away because I did not a lot

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Speaker 1: of sizzle in the relationship. You know you're getting You're

443
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Speaker 1: You're in your pajamas, eating pizza and bed at eight

444
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Speaker 1: thirty pm. They're too young for that, more like roommates

445
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Speaker 1: than lovers. I feel like we've done this exact analogy

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Speaker 1: on past shows. But it's fine, it makes sense. Um

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Speaker 1: I I will counter that west with listening to Ballard.

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Speaker 1: He said also, and sometimes you could take this with

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Speaker 1: a grain of salt, but said this thing has taken

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Speaker 1: a life of its own, referring to the media speculation

451
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Speaker 1: that they are kind of done with Jacoby Brissette and

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Speaker 1: they're going to replace him with a new starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's any scenario where they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: kind of like with the Panthers. Uh, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: looking at and there they might stick with Jake Briskett

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Speaker 1: for another year, or do we all are we all

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Speaker 1: in agreement or you guys all believe that this this

458
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Speaker 1: is a team that is absolutely ready to move on

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Speaker 1: with a new QB one. Well, you only heard part

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Speaker 1: of the conversation. He he spoke about Jacoby about six

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Speaker 1: different times, and the part you heard was I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hurt Jacoby's feelings because I really like him

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Speaker 1: a lot as a person. That's the part you heard.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't hear the part where he said we're

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Speaker 1: going to create competition there. You know, he didn't have

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Speaker 1: a good second half of the year. Part of the

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Speaker 1: record was on him. Look, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys are injured, but you can never point to injured

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Speaker 1: whate receivers. I think if they if Jacoby Bricette starts

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Speaker 1: week week one, it's because they swung and missed so

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Speaker 1: many times at trying to find his replacement and couldn't

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Speaker 1: find He has a lot of guaranteed money. I do

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Speaker 1: think there's a chance that he's their Week one starter.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing is Philip Rivers is possibly a guy

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna have competition for. They don't know they

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Speaker 1: don't know that ends. Even if in Chris Ballad's heart,

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Speaker 1: as he's up there on the podium, his number one

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Speaker 1: option is to get Philip Rivers, he doesn't know at

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Speaker 1: this point. I don't think whether that's going to happen

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Speaker 1: or not, so you have to be ready. I think

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Speaker 1: there might be a chance he knows because just because

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Speaker 1: of his relationship with Nick Sirianni and Frank Wright, that

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Speaker 1: that Philip Rivers is actually really close with Nick sirian Right.

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Speaker 1: But if if Philip Rivers is You're right, it's it's possible.

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Speaker 1: But you hear Arians throw a name out, and if

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers agent is out there trying to get the

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Speaker 1: best deal possible, it's still very early in the Living

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Speaker 1: in flor I do the cult have to evaluate not

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Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers experience overall, but the Philip Rivers struggling

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Speaker 1: last year as an actual upgrade over Jacoby Brissette. I

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Speaker 1: like Philip Rivers better, but you're talking these are the

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Frank Wright likes the player a lot. The

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Speaker 1: whole organization really loves Jacoby Brissette the person as well,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think that they're rushing into anything kind

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Speaker 1: of you're banking on that late period Brett Farve type

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Speaker 1: scenario where he kind of was a turnover, turnover machine

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Speaker 1: in that one year with the Jets. He went to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings and he was thirty eight thirty nine, but

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Speaker 1: was completely revitalized. Maybe the change of scenery. I like

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Speaker 1: the idea of Philip Rivers playing eight games in a

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Speaker 1: dome at least, and playing with an offensively gifted coach

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Speaker 1: like Frank Right. It all makes so much sense, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's why everyone is like pointing to that

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Speaker 1: as the most logical. It's still it's still a stop

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Speaker 1: gap because the next year of of Brett Farve, he

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Speaker 1: fell off a steep cliff into total Darkness's good. If

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Speaker 1: I just disagree with you, I think the Colts believe,

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Speaker 1: if Philip Rivers wants to go there, he's he's their guy.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm getting there. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett at that point becomes the backup. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it becomes. Hey, do we think Rivers is better

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Speaker 1: than Brissett? I think if Rivers wants to go there,

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Speaker 1: he's there. In Brisett has guaranteed money this year so

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Speaker 1: you could keep him as a as a highly paid

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Speaker 1: back up. One thing I thought was interesting from Ballard

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Speaker 1: is in the past he said, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: be that first day of free agency, make a splash

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Speaker 1: move type of team. We need to have our team

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Speaker 1: kind of ready until we're you know, prepared and built

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Speaker 1: up before we're that type of team. And this year

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Speaker 1: he says, we're ready, like we've built our infrastructure. We're

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Speaker 1: ready to go get it. So he I think, is

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Speaker 1: wanting to spend all that cap space that he has,

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Speaker 1: and I think could be a team that would be

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Speaker 1: interested in some of the high highest profile free agents

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Speaker 1: like a Maori Cooper or Jadivan Class. I already made

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Speaker 1: this prediction, though, there you go. I said they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win the off season, so I don't know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like you're trying to reframe it and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to take the Laurie when they have a big

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Speaker 1: free agency. That's how it feels to me. Greg high stakes.

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Speaker 1: To say the least, I had forgotten. I had forgotten that,

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Speaker 1: uh that moment in our podcast history, that shining moment um.

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Speaker 1: Uh West, Yes, there's another Uh, there's another quarterback. Out

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Speaker 1: there gentlemen that everyone's like, I know, there there. They

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Speaker 1: said they're behind him, but are they really behind him?

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Speaker 1: Mitch Trobinsky and the Chicago Bears who talked to who

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Speaker 1: Well maybe you talked to him, maybe you didn't. Who

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Speaker 1: was Matt? Yeah, and there was you know, this came

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Speaker 1: right around the time that there was word from Ryan

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Speaker 1: Pace the Bears GM that their decision on Ryan Trabinsky's

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Speaker 1: fifth year option would come in May. They don't, they

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Speaker 1: don't today know. And the vibe I got was I

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Speaker 1: feel like Matt Nigy has been in to play off

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Speaker 1: the Wesleyan um you know thread here in a bit

546
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Speaker 1: of an arranged marriage with Mitt Robinski and and not

547
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Speaker 1: able to really fight it is the tradition he's stuck

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Speaker 1: in where you can't really if you're in an arranged marriage,

549
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Speaker 1: probably there are a lot of issues, but you can't

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Speaker 1: really complain to the family or anyone else because this

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Speaker 1: is steeped and deep, you know, cultural and religious ties

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Speaker 1: when you have an arranged marriage and they and they

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Speaker 1: and they, well I'm just saying that's how it works

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Speaker 1: in some cultures. But Trabinsky, to me is someone that

555
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: they have aggressively talked around as the problem. Mattegi today

556
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: talked about bringing in John d. Filippo and Bill Laser

557
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Speaker 1: and all these other guys to re imagine the offense

558
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: and calling the offense. And you know, we're in multiple

559
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Speaker 1: years into the Mattennigi adventure. Here an offense it needs

560
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: to figure out what its identity is that it completely

561
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: lost its identity last year. And he talked more about

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Speaker 1: the running game. I thought, then the air game with Trabinsky,

563
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Speaker 1: where I mean, come on, we know what the issue

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Speaker 1: was there and how it all suffered, suffered and struggled

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Speaker 1: because of Mr Rubinsky. He did get real about the

566
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Speaker 1: fact that Rabinsky's responsibility is to come in in a

567
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Speaker 1: couple of months and know this offense better than any

568
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Speaker 1: of the coaches, which was not the case in the past,

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Speaker 1: which is an indictment I think of. You know, he's

570
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Speaker 1: a young player, and they keep making excuses for how

571
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Speaker 1: young he is in all this business, but he is

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Speaker 1: not performing. Where you're looking at other guys like Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Deshaun Watson who are taking off into the skies,

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Speaker 1: so more accountability. But I heard nothing to suggest that

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Speaker 1: they're about to move on from him. We belie, we

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Speaker 1: believe in Mitch. This was pace. Mitch knows he needs

577
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Speaker 1: to be better. We need to be better around him,

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Speaker 1: and that's our goal. They're all now. You also mentioned

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Speaker 1: a shift in their offensive philosophy and also that they

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Speaker 1: he didn't even here's the thing that is on my

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Speaker 1: radar a little bit. And I still believe some of

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Speaker 1: this is all posturing. And I still would be stunned

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Speaker 1: if they don't have um a capable backup. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think I think they've indicated as much. But they're not

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Speaker 1: going to chase Daniel Route. They want someone that can

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Speaker 1: compete a little bit. He said that. He said that

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Speaker 1: they want competition at all all positions, but the GM

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00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: he stopped short of revealing whether Chicago and sends to

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Speaker 1: add another quarterback be a free agency or the draft.

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Speaker 1: How about just say it. How about they literally don't

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Speaker 1: have any other quarterbacks on the rosters, so they have to.

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Speaker 1: There was this one and I give I think Matt

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Speaker 1: Nigy his thing and when we sat down with him

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Speaker 1: at the owners meetings last year, he's a positive energy guy.

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Speaker 1: He's not He's not someone that has any desire to

596
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Speaker 1: call people out but the fact that he basically talked

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Speaker 1: down the Trabinsky drama byd saying that you know, we

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Speaker 1: live in this world of instant gratification where you want

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00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: players to grow up, and well, yes you do, because

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Speaker 1: we're seeing that happen all over the league. And how

601
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Speaker 1: many years, how many jobs will be lost if you

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Speaker 1: have another hideous campaign with Mr Robinsky and all these

603
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: flowery coach speak there there there is there was very

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Speaker 1: little accountability about the fact that the player is not

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Speaker 1: advancing at the speed other NFL quarterbacks are advancing today.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, do you ever hear about being Shanghai

607
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Speaker 1: trapdoor in in the in the floor in Portland's in

608
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Speaker 1: the bar right around the turn of the centry opens up,

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Speaker 1: you get sent on a ship to Shanghai and you're

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Speaker 1: never her problematic. It sounds like a Wesley Night from

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Speaker 1: about three or four years ago. This is what had

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Speaker 1: happened to every single coach whose and GM who says

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Speaker 1: we want to create competition at every position for every question,

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Speaker 1: get rid of West. I meant to ask us a

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago. But during your you know, time around

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Speaker 1: Chris ballor did you notice anything that you know surpriser

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Speaker 1: seemed a little, i don't know, unusual. Whatever it was

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Speaker 1: about him that you and Greg both saw a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago and could not put your thumb on it.

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00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: Ravens g M Eric to Costa has the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: They are two peas in a pod. Greg is not

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Speaker 1: happy to be connected to this. At this point, Greg

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Speaker 1: was originally on board. You absolutely were a driver of

624
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: that narrative. Greg was standing next to me, and you

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Speaker 1: both agree, there's something a little bit different here. Something

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Speaker 1: something's up embedded Cessler or maybe Cessler embedded Cleveland Browns. Uh.

627
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Speaker 1: They did not strike me Andrew Berry the GM and

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Speaker 1: followed by new coach Kevin Stefanski as people that stayed

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Speaker 1: out late last night or are planning to stay out

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Speaker 1: late tonight. They have the vibe of like minded, brainy

631
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: acts um who are very well programmed to say very

632
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: very little. Uh. I think some of these teams that

633
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: need good pr or need to introduce new people for

634
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: the eighteenth time in nineteen years, roll out GM and

635
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: coach back to back, and that's what Cleveland did. A

636
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: few things I learned was that I got the sense

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00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: that Kevin Stefanski is very open to keeping Kareem Hunt,

638
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: along with Nick Chubb calling it more than Marrier, where

639
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: I think there was some you know with cream Hunts

640
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: off the field stuff in the past. In this offseason,

641
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: maybe they don't see him as someone that's part of

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Speaker 1: the team. They've already he's already in his tenure to

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Speaker 1: deal with the cream Hunt situation. Sound like he's very

644
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Speaker 1: open to it. Um David the Joko another guy, because

645
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Speaker 1: I think if you look at Kevin Stefanski's offense last

646
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: year in Minnesota, two tight end sets were prominent and

647
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: used at times by the Vikings successfully, and I think

648
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: that they want to keep him around. But there was

649
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: whispers before Stefanski hit the scene that Najoko could be

650
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Speaker 1: on the trade block along with Joe Schobert, who they've

651
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: seen that they're going to talk to. But what about

652
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: what about Odell Beckham? Because Barry said, you know, I

653
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: come from the you know, Howie Roseman's family. I'm a

654
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: wheeler and deer by nature. I will listen to any

655
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: phone calls. I was a little surprised he didn't shut

656
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: down talk that Odell would be traded in quotes part

657
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: of our future and said that a number of times.

658
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Speaker 1: So but I but I think at this point they

659
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: succeeded in really nailing down nothing. Their answers were uh mechanical, clipped,

660
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: uh practiced, I thought, And they both struck Mark swearing

661
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: a bathrobe right now, he's talking very seriously and clinically

662
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: about his favorite team, the Browns in a bathrobe just

663
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Speaker 1: another reminder. Well, I mean it's you know, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: the the I I got deeper into these two pressers

665
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: thinking there aren't a lot of huge takeaways here. One

666
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: thing that I did sense that was very different, obviously

667
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: from Freddy Kitchens and previous incarnations, was this sense that

668
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: when the players hit in April that it is going

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00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: to be all business that they they had come They

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00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: said they had basically spent these weeks and months coming

671
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: up with specific projects and um very specific must reach

672
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: goals for all key players. Where I think that that

673
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: was the reason the shift happened this offseason, that those

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00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: goals and that level of sort of sober approach to

675
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: all football was utterly missing under Freddie Kitchens and company,

676
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: and that is entirely gone. So if you want to vibe,

677
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: I got a vibe of football. First, we're not here

678
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: to win the press conference. They didn't. They're both very eloquent,

679
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: and I thought they did a nice job, but it

680
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: wasn't like, yeah, oh wow, these personalities, I must go

681
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: spend time with them. I think that they were holding

682
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: back on their personality. I was embedded in a in

683
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: a walk and talk with Chris Wesseling and Mark on

684
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Speaker 1: the way over here, and the more secrets are you

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00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: gonna what are you going to share? What's not gonna

686
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: too fast and loose with embedded branding? Okay, specific I'm

687
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just saying there was some concern or

688
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: at least notice that Stefanski was more slight of frame

689
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: than you expect. Think an observation with well he you

690
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: see him on the sideline and then I think, you

691
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: know his whole persona he comes across. We heard from

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Speaker 1: Mina Kimes that her husband these guys played high school football,

693
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Speaker 1: like I expected a bigger dude, maybe five hundred and sixty,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not not a big man looking man,

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Speaker 1: by the way, good looking man. Any other embedded takeaways

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Speaker 1: before I don't I don't want to steal from what

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Speaker 1: maybe hotter information from the other embedded camps. Right, What

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Speaker 1: did you think was the biggest story. I think he

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00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: meant the Browns, I'm saying. I think that's I've dumped

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00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: the notebook on a Brown on back to back Browns.

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Speaker 1: That did not tell me as much as I wanted

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: to know. Let's get in bedded with the New York Giants.

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00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get inbedded with one team, you

704
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: want to get in bed with the other and uh,

705
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: the Giants today, I just want to get in bed.

706
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: Joe Judge would not be a fun um coach. I

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00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: think cover from the initial um, how many handshakes did

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: he give out today? No handshakes today? Famously gave handshakes

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00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: out to everyone that is introducted. There was there was

710
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: a lot going on without him saying anything. One started

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00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: the press conference incredibly early that he was he was

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Speaker 1: the first one of the day and and he started

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00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: eight or nine minutes earlier. Something like that. They Tom

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Speaker 1: Coughlin time, um trying to be cool still to have

715
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: it out for the Giants. I like, I want the

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00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I want this post um, you know, this post Eli

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00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: Giants to be interesting, and they might be, but it's

718
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: an interesting situation right now in February, because he literally

719
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: said he's not going to speak about any player, not

720
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: on any player on other teams, on his own team,

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Speaker 1: he won't say his quarterbacks name. He would not say

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Speaker 1: his quarterbacks. So the whole thirty minutes. But one my

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Speaker 1: one of my takeaways from this embedded um you know

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00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: exercise was that Joe Judge is wearing the pants in

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: the relationship because Dave Gettleman, who loves to fly off

726
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: the hand and who loves to say a lot of

727
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: things and he said some funny things today, ultimately was

728
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: going with Judge rules. So everyone, for some reason in

729
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: the Giants press corps kept like asking the question, is

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones you're starting quarterback? Well, of course he's there

731
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Stop it. But because Joe Judge wouldn't say

732
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones name and was doing stupid, so stupid, and

733
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: it was doing the whole thing where it's like we

734
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: gotta have competition at every position that for whatever reason,

735
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: half the Giants press corps got all excited about that

736
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: and was like, oh, do we have a quarterback controversy,

737
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: which is obviously they're not drafting another quarterback with who

738
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: get real, and Dave Gtelman even started getting annoyed at

739
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: this these questions, but you could tell he had been

740
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: almost trained by the Joe Judge philosophy and that so

741
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: he wouldn't go there. And he just started, you know,

742
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: personally naming uh the media guys by name, saying that's

743
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: a bad job, you know, saying these questions are a

744
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: bad job. But he wouldn't answer the questions. He did

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: ask the question, well, who who was our starter in

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00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: the last game of the season, you know, Daniel, Well,

747
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: they're also one of the teams that came out absolutely

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00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: set on fire at last last year's Combine with Too

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Speaker 1: Hideous press conference, And as Dan mentioned, he was, you know,

750
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: upset about the whole analytics thing. But it's funny, you know,

751
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: he's trying to pretend like like just owned that he

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00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: when he speaks about analytics, he still says, he's like, oh, yeah,

753
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: we're we're doing the analytics. I mean, that's not really

754
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: like you know what he's don't I don't talk about it.

755
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, we're we're doing it. We don't.

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00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: We don't talk about it a lot, but we're doing it.

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00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: We got that covered. He also says he's like, I've

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00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: done studies on this. I don't have to answer every

759
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: question at the coin, which is a funny answer. I

760
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: like that. The thing that would annoy me, though, if

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00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm a giant sand more than anything, was him repeatedly

762
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: going defense wins defense. Run down to that drove me.

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00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: Not defense wins championship, defense wins championships, and offense, you know,

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00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: offense it's there, and he immediately mentions the Super Bowl

765
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: stat where when the number one defense plays the number

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Speaker 1: one offense, the number one defense wins. Well, that's a

767
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: that's a stupid stat it's a it's not that's that

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00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: that tells you no longer relevant much about anything. It's

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00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: it's a tiny sample size, and it's just I'm not

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00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: saying defense doesn't matter. Of course it matters. By the way,

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00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: Dave Gentelman has been there for a few years. Their

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00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: defense is terrible, so he he has to bear the

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00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: weight of that. And he's mentioned he's trying to put

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00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: it on the previous gms that look, we don't have

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00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: these giants veterans that have been there a long time

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00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: that are true New York giants, And okay that that's fine,

777
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: but you haven't really brought too many and you've had

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00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: a couple of decent draft picks, but you've moved a

779
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: bunch of veterans off. It's one of the most talent

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00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: power teams in the league. Embedded take us deeper, now,

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00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: Greg I was one thing. Another thing that I was surprised,

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00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: but Judge was not commanding the microphone and maybe he's

783
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: just not experienced with the combine. But Thomas de mit

784
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: Draft was right next to him. He showed up on time.

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Speaker 1: I mean he started, he was eleven. He's gonna start

786
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: a looking Joe Judge when he's speaking stayed again because

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00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: eight guys spoke at the same time at that opening,

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00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: and it was only two or three two or three early.

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Speaker 1: Well also, but okay, de meet Draft's voice. You couldn't

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00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: hear Joe Judge because the meat Drops voice was so

791
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: booming and he was next door. This was a problem.

792
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: This was a problem with several people because it's too

793
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: crowded now and they have too many guys going at

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00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: the same time. It's hard to get close enough to

795
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: ask the questions, and it's hard to hear one guy

796
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: when the other guy shouting him down from I think

797
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: the Giants Press Corps has the same um level of

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00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: let's see how this goes that the Jets Press Court

799
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: did a year ago. One Joe Judge hired the same

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00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: staff that he was going to hire at Mississippi State.

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00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Whether that's good or bad, whatever, it's a it's a

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00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: unique staff that they're looking at. And then I do

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00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: like the one thing it gave away that I appreciate

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00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: was all the coaches are living in the same The

805
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Giants coaches are living in the same apartment complex right

806
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: near the facility, so they're all just like living together

807
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: and everything is together. It kind of reminds me of

808
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: that Mike Pettons a couple of teams do that, But

809
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: I think that's because that speaks to organization and flux.

810
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: You're not all buying homes scattered all over come on throughout.

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Speaker 1: This would be a good reality show here, like the

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00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: you know what are they doing at nine nine pm

813
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: at night in the old Do you think Judge works

814
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: with with today's type of players speak speaking to the

815
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: way you are about him, and then you've got gentleman

816
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: who have never heard a GM disdain offense the way

817
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: that he does. It just seems like an odd fit

818
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: with the today's millennials. He won't even say his roommates,

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: last coaches names until they prove himself to him. I

820
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: don't know about that thing. Come on, what something with

821
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: these some of these guys, it's just ridiculous. First round

822
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: pick last year, who thrived at points last season, the

823
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: franchise legend quarterback just retired. You know what, we don't

824
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: have to get cut here and not bring up Daniel

825
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: Jones everybody, don't you These guys strategize before they come

826
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: into these combined pressers, which one of the infrequent times

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00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: you speak all offseason. What an odd tactical? Well, he

828
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: he said, you know, and he really spent most of

829
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: his press conference explaining this policy, and like that so bad.

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: The explanation was essentially, I want these players to know

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00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: that there's no preference in the I'll have a clean

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00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: slate and so that when they get you know that

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00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm not making any opinion on them until But the

834
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: way you said it, like that's fine, but to hammer

835
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: at home relentlessly stop me. Have you heard this before?

836
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: Belichick disciple goes to a new city and immediately has

837
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: an identity crisis because he thinks he's Bill Belichick, yet

838
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't earned the stripes yet like Belichick as opposed

839
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: to like let's say Mike Rabel, who you know, played

840
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: under Belichick and he has a certain confidence, uh swagger.

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00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: You would even say he doesn't care what he says

842
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: up there. He's given reporters the business people are asking

843
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady. I couldn't believe it. He was talking

844
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady a ton. He wasn't worried about that

845
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: at all. We've talked about it, and everyone's talked about

846
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: it for years. Andy Reid has such a successful coaching

847
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: tree that he's known as the godfather the Bill Belichick

848
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: coaching tree. It's like when you take I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anyone's ever had to move a tree or a

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Speaker 1: hearty plant and try to put it elsewhere on the

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Speaker 1: property and you hope that the roots take, but it

852
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: just ends with a really brittle but odd man. That's

853
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: what it feels like with this Belichick coaching change. He's

854
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: the only guy. Brian Flores did a nice job. He's

855
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: gotta get a little credit. He's gotta get just like

856
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: a spind your credit for like the greatest college football

857
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: coach of the last thirty years. I mean that Nick Saban,

858
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: well not if you're only talking about the NFL. I'm

859
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: just saying that that that counts for something. Let's stick

860
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: anything else in your in bed. I think that's it

861
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: for the inbedding. Okay, just embedded, all right, we'll stick

862
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: with the New York teams. Adam Gay said absolutely absolutely nothing,

863
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: uh of interest I found. I think he was how

864
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: was the body language though in the overall president you

865
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: know how he is. He's got the hat pulled down low,

866
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: he's wearing he kind of was dressed like a dad

867
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: going golfing. He was wearing all Nike gear, but no

868
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Jets branded gear up. I saw a lot of double

869
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: zippers today, like another coat over it with the doubles,

870
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: and I think they're getting their swags, some of them

871
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: getting their free swag and starting to pile on um.

872
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: But he basically kind of kept things close to the vest.

873
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: He he Someone asked about Sam Darnald and you know

874
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: the issues with the health last year, and Gay said,

875
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: we'll be nice. We are past the mono thing. Got

876
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: that thing checked off health wise. Saw Sam Donald. He

877
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: looked healthy to me. We oh, we have to touch

878
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: on that um. But right now we're in my in

879
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: bed and then we're gonna get to your airport adventure

880
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: the lead um. Then right after as Gaye left, he

881
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: did have some dip in his back pockets jeans, so

882
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: maybe this is not healthy. He was not the coach

883
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: that we saw. He was not that coach. But now

884
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: we have one guy that's scooping and slamming into the

885
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: garbage can and then gaze clear. Now it could have

886
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: been Bubble Team. You know that that candy You could

887
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: have been that too. I don't know. I think you'll

888
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: see this as a they haven't. I don't know it was.

889
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't ninety two. I don't know if it still is.

890
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas follows him immediately and the GM. Actually, you

891
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: could get some real information on Joe Douglas. He looks

892
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: like a country star. I know nothing of country music,

893
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: but there are these hardy, beefy guys with beards that

894
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: are very successful in the country music scene. Like, we

895
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: don't have to work on his name. He don't have

896
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: to be like Blake Doug. Yeah, he needs to work

897
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: on that. But like I think, like Eric Church, have

898
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: you seen have you ever heard or seen Eric Church

899
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: or Chris Stapleton or these guys, he kind of looks

900
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: like that type of vibe. Uh and uh. In terms

901
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: of news elements, this Jamal Adams thing is something can

902
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: continue to watch. He said, the plan is for Jamal

903
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: to be a jet for life and they are in

904
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: preliminary uh talks. When he said that, I got a

905
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: nice little snapshot. This is a little in bed heat

906
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: right here, how and the beats are different, and it's

907
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: so interesting to beat at this event and see the

908
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: difference level in competition on the beat. So if you

909
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: are at the Cincinnati Bengals podium, as I was for

910
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor today and I'll get to that a little

911
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: bit later, pretty laid back, pretty laid back podium, and

912
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: the crowd around it is fairly sparse. At one point

913
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Dan and I were about of the crowd and I left.

914
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: But just the Jets beat is very competitive. It has

915
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: some guys that people know there's been some homicides inside

916
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: that things have happened on that jet beat. We have

917
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: our good buddy Connor or who, by the way, terrible

918
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: news that I got during the middle of these press

919
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: conferences at texts from Connor Or, who came down with

920
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: the flu was going to be on this show, didn't

921
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: even get on the plane. I changed to a darier're

922
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna have Connor, and now we will not have Connor,

923
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: and we will not have him at st Elmo, which

924
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: is just crushing. That is, he's a big st almost boost.

925
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: He's a glue guy too. He's a huge glue guy.

926
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: And to lose Connor, I I feel like Greg's sentiment

927
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: where he tries to like put down the gathering without

928
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: Connor there to counterbalance. It happened. I'm worried that we're

929
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: gonna lose the ship here. It happened one time that

930
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: I was just like, it's a good it's a great experience,

931
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: but like, we don't have to pretend that the sneak

932
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: is is fantastic, to which I said, it's not about

933
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: the meat. It's about the meat. It's about the meat.

934
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: That's fair. I'm sorry. We got the Jets, the Jets,

935
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: the Jets. Connor Or used to work the Jets beat

936
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: and he told me some crazy stories. When Joe Douglas

937
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: says the plan is for Jamal to be a jet

938
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: for life, I saw two Jets beat scribes. Uh, that's

939
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: the real thing. Uh. The Connor Hughes of The Athletic

940
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: and Miniche Meta of the Daily News get into you know,

941
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: they're standard standing about six inches away from each other

942
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: in a race to get the tweet up. First the

943
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: phone comes out of the back pocket, bang, and then

944
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: you're typing, typing, typing send. And I'd love to check

945
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: and I will not, but imagine I believe. I believe

946
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: Connor Hughes beat Miniche by mere seconds and that had

947
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: to hurt concerned for the Hughes family if that's true.

948
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: The rough offseason continues um and less. Note on the

949
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Jets positive comments about Levyan Bell from all parties. They're

950
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, kill that story or the report

951
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: he having. I think they're they feel like we're stuck

952
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: with them for another year. Then they're hopefully Adam Gates

953
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: is taking the smart tact of no longer trying to

954
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: create headlines about the guy, just trying to get the

955
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: most out of him. The Jets. It's very clear what

956
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna see from the Jets, uh this this offseason,

957
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: and they they have a I believe they could be

958
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: in the running for quote unquote winning the offseason as well,

959
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: because their their needs are kind of high profile. They

960
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: need wide receivers. Uh, they need an edge rusher, they

961
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: need cornerback help, they need line help. But so those

962
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: four spots that they need, I think wide receiver, especially

963
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: somewhere where they're gonna either go huge in the draft

964
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: or make a big free agency or trade move. And

965
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson the one guy there that people would have

966
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: an interest in that's a free agent. He was asked

967
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: directly as Robby Anderson a number one. Joe Douglas has

968
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: asked I view him as a dynamic wide receiver who

969
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: could take the roof off a lot of and a

970
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: lot of teams are looking for that. He won't call

971
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: him the number one because he's not. I think Robbie's gone.

972
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: I think they are gonna completely reboot the weapons around

973
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: Donald with Christopher Herndon a tight end and leave Bell

974
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: in the backfield and an entirely new offensive line. And um,

975
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be expensive, but they have the money and

976
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: they have the draft resources with some trades imation. I

977
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: wonder if they might be one of these teams that

978
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: would look at Hayden Hurst on the Ravens because there's

979
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: whispers that they love they love Herndon, so I think

980
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: they're And you saw Sam Donald in the at the airport.

981
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm not done with my in bed, but then we're

982
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: gonna do. Joe Douglas doesn't have a wedding ring on,

983
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: so ladies, he's available. And that's it. Now let's get

984
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: to it. Oh, last question, very common, last last comment.

985
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: The last question Adam Gaze gets and Joe Douglas filed

986
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: him directly at the same podium, was Hey, your boss,

987
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. UH said that there needs to be better

988
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: communication top to bottom UH in the organization. And Joe

989
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Douglas stopped and listened to Adam Gaze's answer, And I

990
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: felt that Adam Gaze probably had Joe Douglas in his

991
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: sightline when he was answering the question that publicly, UH

992
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: put his head coach on the spot to be a

993
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: little smarter and better in communication. That's some of the

994
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: fun stuff that happens. Who is bosses? Who? Though? That

995
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: is Joe Douglas Adams. That's true. It's very messy. All right,

996
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: you met Sam Donald, my boy at l a X.

997
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: Take us through it. This was one time, and it

998
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: was very surreal. I went up to this um it

999
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: delta at l A X has two terminals. One is new,

1000
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: brand new, international, beautiful. The other one is small and dumpy,

1001
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: and that's where I was. So I was totally shocked

1002
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: to see Sam Donald wheel like so much institutional knowledge

1003
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: of the delta structure at l A n Oh. I mean,

1004
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: it's don't get me started on that airport. But Sam

1005
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: Donald rolled in with um what seemed to be a

1006
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: manager agent handler type individual and they had purchased food

1007
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: somewhere else and they were sitting in this counter. Uh,

1008
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: and it was just me and the two of them,

1009
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: and you know, a couple of gabronees came up right

1010
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: away and wanted to shake hands with Sam Donald and

1011
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: he was he hadn't eaten yet. So I thought, that's

1012
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: you broke code. That you broke code there. You gotta

1013
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: let him eat his meal. Coronavirus stuff too, like do

1014
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: we need all this stuff? And but Darnald here was

1015
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: my takeaway. Could not have been any nicer people. Well,

1016
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: now what I did was I acted completely disinterested, as

1017
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: if I had no idea that he was. I made

1018
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: no eye contact and all I looked at was I

1019
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: waited until they were both completely done with their food,

1020
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: paid their check and they were about to get up

1021
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: and leave, and I walked over and just basically explained

1022
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm from this you know podcast, blah blah blah NFL network,

1023
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: and like, you know, before their eyes are glazing you over.

1024
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: I had like ten seconds here, I jumped in, I

1025
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: really wanted you to be there in place of me,

1026
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: and saying that because it was a weird thing. Uh

1027
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: it had it happened to you, it would have been

1028
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: like a life changing moment. I think that was loud.

1029
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: That was okay, Dan. Anyways, I I I was like,

1030
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: I have to get this photo, and I think I

1031
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: was texting you guys being like should I try to

1032
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: get this photo? And no one's responding something. I'm just

1033
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna either do this and two things are gonna happen.

1034
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: Either one, he's gonna say yes and I'm gonna love

1035
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: him from now until the end of time, or he's

1036
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna blow me off and I'll never forget it the

1037
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: rest of my life. And he happily took a photo

1038
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: with me, which I basically and it did not Yeah,

1039
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be completely sold on anyone because of this,

1040
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: but I might be a little bit. And he kind

1041
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: of blowed me over as one of the nicer NFL

1042
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: players I've ever encountered. So he seems like a nice guy.

1043
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: He's a California USC star obviously, so a lot of

1044
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: people that airport probably were going up to him. Uh

1045
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: during that time. That's it's must be weird like you

1046
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: in London, Mark, like you just had to reduce my

1047
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: voyages over there. Um, all right, we let's go a

1048
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: little speed round where we've all done our embeddeds now right, Um,

1049
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: all right, little speed round other takeaways from the day,

1050
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: and then just there so everybody knows we have a

1051
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: lot more coming up from Indianapolis. Um, in fact, we

1052
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: have I don't know, I already have regrets about this,

1053
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: but Move the Sticks is on our show tomorrow. We're

1054
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna speak with him, uh, and we're gonna try to

1055
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: get some other guests in the mix for tomorrow show.

1056
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Maybe get Connie Fox in here and get our final

1057
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: entries to the Connie Fox Fox Song Challenge before making

1058
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: a announcement next week on the Winner, and um, we'll

1059
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: do some more um combine talk kind of looking ahead

1060
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: it from it from a draft perspective that's coming up tomorrow.

1061
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: Uh from indian Also a reminder to everyone that the

1062
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Speaker 1: top one on one free agents piece by the Scientist

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: is live, and we'll be doing a mini show uh

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00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: hitting that and kind of digging into the list, and

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00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: you'll get that a little later in the week. So

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of content, uh, emanating out of

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: beautiful Indianapolis. All right, takeaways? How about that John always

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00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: the only guy on the scheduled press conference list with

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00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: the star next to his name where it says tentative

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00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: that it could be moved to a different time. And

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: then throughout the morning there was just occasional updates of Okay,

1072
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: John always gonna be here at this time, and then

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00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, John always gonna be at this

1074
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: podium at twelve twenty, and then it was like, actually, no,

1075
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: John always not gonna be here. Now he's gonna move

1076
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: his podium over here. This preferential treatment is for John,

1077
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: saying no one else, no one else gets that treatment,

1078
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: even in a in a sea of very famous figures,

1079
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: he gets sort of this this special diva treatment that

1080
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: no one else can I point out, and he did

1081
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: eventually speaking West and I. It's a nice little moment.

1082
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: West and I both grew up, you know, his die

1083
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: hard NFL fans and if you are of a certain age,

1084
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: always a legendary figure. He's an icon. As much as

1085
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: fun as I have with him as a management figure

1086
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: on this podcast, he's one of those guys. He's one

1087
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: of those dudes that's just like an icon. And uh,

1088
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: you know, he always seemed a little refreshed. This year

1089
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: he had a different kind of look to him than

1090
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: in past years at this event. Normally his voice is

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: like a croak, as if he had been in the

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00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: bar for like seventeen hours a night before, and who

1093
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: knows if he has, But this time he did look fresh,

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00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: and you sort of called him John Wayne. This is

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: a man. What a life. This guy's lad beginning with

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: being like one of the best quarterback prospects in the

1097
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: history of the game, his dad being his coach, orchestrating

1098
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: the trade away from the Colts, ending up in Denver,

1099
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: dragging some bad teams to the Super Bowl, then actually

1100
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: winning some super Bowls, then winning Super Bowl is a GM.

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: This guy has done everything. He's like like he really

1102
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: am I really gonna sweat brock oswild or it's like,

1103
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: give me a break. He's not gonna worry about his

1104
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: little bad decisions here there he he uh. He made

1105
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: sure to say that Drew Lock though, is their guy

1106
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: about as you know, aggressively as he could that that

1107
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: it feels different being here knowing that they have their quarterback,

1108
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: which is like, wow, I'll give you a couple of

1109
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: little things. I know that I had one because I was,

1110
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: I had Fongio, I sat on a suppressor. Since so

1111
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: we're here. When when they talked about Lock is our guy,

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00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: and Faggio was on board with that as well. Um,

1113
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: when they said about who's gonna be behind him, he

1114
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Rip and Alan and and Alan is Brandon Allen

1115
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: Rip is Brett Rippon or yeah Rippen right sat Mark

1116
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: Rippin y yep uh. Joe Flacco didn't even get mentioned.

1117
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: So that tells you everything you need to know. Not

1118
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: not that anybody thought that Flacco was in the Broncos plans,

1119
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: but even to the point where Fongio Fogio when he's

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: just like stream of consciousness, he's not even on the radar,

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 1: So just expect that to quickly come off the bot.

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: I think they've seen the light. I the one thing

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: I take away about the combine is that and this

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00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: is I include myself number one at the top of

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: the list. It is late February. Um, people have been

1126
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: through hell covering football for the last four or five months.

1127
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean a first class version of help. But they

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00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: no one could look any worse, every journal and everyone involved.

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00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: It looks absolutely as bad as to look all year long. Pasty.

1130
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, some of the smells coming off of some

1131
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: of these people this morning were unbelievable. And there was

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: the one guy every combine, the one guy who's working

1133
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: on I think piece and roved from individual to individual

1134
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: with the hot question about why aren't there as many

1135
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: left handed quarterbacks as right handed quarterbacks? And I mean,

1136
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be a wonderful piece, but just having

1137
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 1: to this guy got into my hemisphere like fourteen times.

1138
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: And you have fifteen minutes, the assembled media has fifteen

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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: minutes with these coaches and gms. And when this when

1140
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: the Jabronies get on their feature piece, especially when it

1141
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: happens when it's the two more of for coach and

1142
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: then this JABRONI rolls in and asked two questions about

1143
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: left handed quarterbacks, and it's like, oh, so now we

1144
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: don't get multiple questions that we could have been addressing

1145
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: important things about the team for that guy's piece. I

1146
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: think sixteen answers for lefty quarterbacks was enough. You don't

1147
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: It's like they're all boring quotes or history. It's a

1148
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: selfish social faux pap because there's a general rule the

1149
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: questions being asked or for the whole group, we can

1150
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: all get answers out of him. But this guy's coming

1151
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: along with something that nobody else is getting answers out

1152
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: of accept him. I I also just like the deep

1153
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: wide receiver class guy every every every coach get, every

1154
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: coach gets. It is a pretty deep, wet hyper pun.

1155
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: I was surprised at at Mike Rabels presser, no one

1156
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: asked about Tannehill or Brady for a solid five, six,

1157
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: seven minutes, And maybe it was because they all know

1158
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Rabel enough that when he went to the side, which

1159
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: I followed with and he did talk about Brady a little,

1160
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: he was golden and he's like he's getting after people

1161
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: when he doesn't like the question, but in a fun way.

1162
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: But letting you know who the alpha is. Like, like,

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: so one kind of mentioned a question about their offense

1164
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: needing to improve and like where where they needed improve,

1165
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: and he was like, well, I don't know. He's like,

1166
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: you seem to know a lot about what our team needs.

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: And the other guy was just like Hama, Hama. He's like,

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: he's like, well, we were we had seven yards for

1169
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: play that was second in the league. I guess that

1170
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: seemed pretty good to me. But if if Rabel was

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: trying to make anyone I think that they were bringing

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: back Tannehill or that he was closing the door, it's

1173
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: like it really felt like he was making it clear

1174
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: that their options are open and maybe Brady would be

1175
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: someone they were would be interested. They asked about his

1176
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: relationship and he's like, my relationships undefeated, like this guy

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01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: can't beat me, and saying that, you know, they go

1178
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: back and forth. They practiced together, and he extolled all

1179
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: the positives of Brady uh in terms of preparing for him,

1180
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: and was very, very noncommittal despite Ryan Tannehill's excellent second

1181
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: half of the season. Maybe that's negotiating or maybe not.

1182
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: I think we have to remember that all these guys

1183
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: worked for thirty two owners who you know, outside of

1184
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: anyone with any quarterback question, that owner would love to

1185
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: have Tom Brady on the team, no matter what stage

1186
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: of his career he's in. UM. Some quick takeaways Zach Taylor,

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01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: As I said, I sat in on that press or.

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: I didn't ask. I don't tend to ask a ton

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01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: of questions because I get self conscious about stepping on

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01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: the beat writer's toes. But when it's as quiet as

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati area was, UM, I had to jump in

1192
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: and asked about A. J. Green. I asked him. I

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01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: asked Zach Taylor, how confident he is that A. J.

1194
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Green is a banngle in week one? He said, very

1195
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: confident and uh and it And then I asked the

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01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: follow up question and he, you know, said a lot

1197
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: of you know, positives about Green and there was a

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: there's a report out there that Green might be unhappy

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: and he might want out. So I don't know if

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: this is a situation where it's like, you know, put

1201
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 1: it in pen, but I did. It does make sense

1202
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: why Zach Zach Taylor, who didn't get to enjoy any

1203
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: of the spoils of having A. J. Green in his

1204
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: first year as a coach is gonna want that guy

1205
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: in the building. And he spoke, um, you know, in

1206
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: a in a way that made me think that he

1207
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: will be there. Uh. Dave Caldwell GM of the Jaguars,

1208
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: they were asked about Gardner means you, you you and Nick Foles,

1209
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: and I just thought it was interesting that, Um, he

1210
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: did point. He did make a point to say he

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01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: likes an off schedule QB, which was a buzzword. I

1212
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: heard a couple of times buzz phrase which it would

1213
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: be Gardener meanshu and off schedule means a guy that

1214
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: can make plays when the pocket gets muddy. That is

1215
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: not Nick Foles nearly as much as it is Gardner

1216
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: means you. But they were two guys and they will compete.

1217
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: It sounded like, but who knows. He made it sound

1218
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: to me that they are very excited about Minshew and

1219
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: how he could fit with Jake Gruden. He kept. He

1220
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: pointed out that Minshew had better stats than Kyler Murray

1221
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones in his opinion, um that he had

1222
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: the best rookie stats of of any quarterback, that that

1223
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: the wind like winds are the most important quarterback stat

1224
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew, oh don't tell half of Twitter that, right, um,

1225
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: but just the support and love in his eyes that

1226
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: he thought that that was a quarterback that they could

1227
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: build around. He used those words and then he threw

1228
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: in a couple of things that you know, obligatory about Folds.

1229
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: But he certainly sounded like they wanna they want to

1230
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: move forward with with Minshew, and they weren't sure if

1231
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: they would bring clay As Gambell back depending on some

1232
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: other moves. I love the Chiefs came out very strong

1233
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: on wanting to do whatever it takes to keep Chris

1234
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: Jones and also when asked about Sammy Watkins, Andy Reid

1235
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 1: said that Sammy's in a good place, a great place,

1236
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: and basically said he didn't really understand what um walking,

1237
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: what what the retirement hubbub was about the comments he

1238
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: made making it sound like we're good with him. James

1239
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: Palmer indicated on our network today that in les Watkins

1240
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: is going to take a pay cut, then he's probably

1241
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: not gonna then he's not going to be a member

1242
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: of that To that point, said that they hope to

1243
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: quote bridge at gap with Sammy Watkins, so that means

1244
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: take a haircut. Industry car Lance uh, lose some of

1245
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: that money that that he has coming his way. I

1246
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: think with Zach Taylor, when you hear that a j

1247
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: Green quote, you immediately think, okay, well, they're definitely tagging

1248
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: him like they do telegraph some tags. Matthew jude On

1249
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: I think is getting tagged based on what the Costa said.

1250
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is getting tagged. Justin Simmons mentioned Justin Simmons.

1251
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: John Elway just flat out said they're gonna tag him

1252
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: if they can't get a deal. And then Hunter Henry

1253
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: was the other one where Tom Tilesko didn't say it

1254
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: but basically said that that's when I and Corey Littleton

1255
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: in in Los Angeles. I don't think that would be

1256
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: a huge shock the numbers so high, uh for them

1257
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: to tag him, but they bade it clear kind of

1258
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: he's their priority, maybe over Dante Fowler and Michael Brocker's

1259
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: and that they're gonna bring back Andrew Worth to Speaking

1260
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: of Talsco, let me ask you guys a question. Who

1261
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: is Kyle Smith. He's that guy he's with Washington Football

1262
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: Franchise in as President of player Personnel role. He's basically

1263
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: their Duke Tobin who does the same thing for the Bengals.

1264
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: Yet they won't call him a GM. But Kyle Smith

1265
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: is working handing glove with Ron Rivera now and they're

1266
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: running the show. Kyle Smith is running the draft. But

1267
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: he here's an interesting fact. Not only is he the

1268
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: son of a GM, A J. Smith long time, I

1269
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: think tang years a GM in the NFL. UM went

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Speaker 1: to the same high school in Buffalo as Tom Talasco

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Speaker 1: Chargers GM, David Caldwell Jaguars GM, Chris Pullian, NFL executive

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Speaker 1: and son of Bill Pollian UH and Brian Dable, offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator of the Bills. They all went to St. Francis

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Speaker 1: High School. UH. And he did talk about Dwayne Haskins

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Speaker 1: more effusive praise than I would have expected. Said, I'm

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01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: really excited about Dwayne. Everyone saw how he ascended in

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: the second half of last year. I didn't expect the

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01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: word as sending about Dwayne Haskins. The whole building is

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Speaker 1: excited about him. He's got the right stuff. We think

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Speaker 1: he's got a bright future. They love Dwayne hask The

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01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: most difficult clock, you know, the term clock recognized or whatever.

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Speaker 1: See Kyle Smith was there. Duke Tobin, Erica Costa. These

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: all guys you just mentioned David Caldwell. That was my

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01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: most difficult to clock list when I saw them. Either

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01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know who they were or it took me

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: a minute to piece it together based on what they

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: were saying. And they all they you all just mentioned

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: those guys. They're all a bunch of generic bros. Well

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Speaker 1: Da Costa did not go to this school to LESCo

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Speaker 1: and and David Caldwell. But yeah, Kyle Smith, I had

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: never seen him before. I didn't know what he looked like,

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Speaker 1: but he's a confident guy. Obviously knows football really well. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Smith kind of uh you know, built one of the

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01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: most talented rosters of the last twenty years and then

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: blew it up. Part of the controversial because of his

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: ego got out of control and like they were fighting

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Speaker 1: for credit with Marty Schottenheimer. I'm gonna blow through like

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: one note things because we tried to hit almost every team,

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Speaker 1: if not every team. Uh Doug, did we say Doug

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: Peterson wants Jason Peters back. Uh? Peterson also said there's

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: quote no issue between Alston, Jeffrey and Carson when we

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: also said they're ready to spend after after a few

1303
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: years keeping what they had that this begins a three

1304
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: year period of building up spending interesting Steve Kim the

1305
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals GM on David Johnson. David's a guy that because

1306
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: of his work ethic, because of his ability to create

1307
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: mismatches in the passing game, He's a guy that we

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01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: still value. So it sounds like they want to bring

1309
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: it back. Or maybe it's just the financial reality that

1310
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: they're stuck with him. We'll see. He's also kind, He's dropped,

1311
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: He's dropped a significant amount of LBSS and he showed

1312
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: up um in kind of tight jeans. They were what

1313
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: do they call those ankle cut jeans and uh like

1314
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: a cool Henley. This is Steve kinbam lbs is is

1315
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: one of the worst shortenings for town. In the bottom,

1316
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: it's like three more and to top off the outfit.

1317
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: The outfit he was wearing Louis Baton slip on shoes,

1318
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: Louis Baton. Did you expect the combine? His version of

1319
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: you knowing? I think the difference there would be come

1320
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: has always dressed fairly well. I don't think I have

1321
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: always his wardrobe. Packers coach Matt Lafleur never a doubt

1322
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: about keeping Mike Petton after that disastrous NFC title game. Uh,

1323
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: Bob Quinn to Matthew Stafford, We're not trading you, period.

1324
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia interested. I was checking out, Patricia, Um, the

1325
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: pencil is tucked behind the ear even at this event. Uh.

1326
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: And then I was thinking about the pencil. It's a

1327
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: yellow pencil, like a standard nineteen fifties classroom pencil. He

1328
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: has to bring those, He has to pack those. It's

1329
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: his brand. What happens if he forgets them? Does he

1330
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: have to send an intern to like a write aid

1331
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis? I mean, you put him in your back back.

1332
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: How hard is that? But the fact that he has

1333
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: to pack the pencils for it's almost like a costume

1334
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: he's wearing at all forced. It feels it feels like

1335
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: a don't you pack pack pens wherever you go? Maybe not? Well,

1336
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't. It's not a part of my fashion. John

1337
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: Lynch on Jimmy Garoppolo. He has not come close to

1338
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: hitting his ceiling. Did I tell you that? I think

1339
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: that Adam Gates had dip in his back pocket, but

1340
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: it could have been bubble tape. I got that and

1341
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: my one one kind of a vague takeaway um or

1342
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 1: general takeaway from listening to all the coaches that I mentioned,

1343
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: what a joke that the Patriots aren't involved with this

1344
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: event over, you're not better than everyone else. I mean

1345
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: they're here. Get back in the press conference room. This

1346
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: league has officially leap frogged our league. Now. I don't

1347
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: know if you could say that in the broadcast booth.

1348
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: And we're gonna I'll be tracking this closely come September.

1349
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: But amongst the league personnel, this league is now the

1350
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: preferred nomaclacher over. I think even even with Aikman and

1351
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: a few others, towards the end of the year, they

1352
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,520
Speaker 1: started to move off that. And that feels like producers

1353
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: with engagement on Twitter realizing like this is starting to

1354
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: become spiraling out of control and becoming cornery, corny, and

1355
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: telling them a production meetings, stop saying our league, and

1356
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: they shifted over to this league, which you mentioned. La

1357
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: Fleur ran into him uh in the elevator and then

1358
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: on the way to our floor in our hotel. He remembered, uh,

1359
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: he remembered his podcast appearance. I suggested that, you know,

1360
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's what kicked off. It was good luck kicked

1361
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: off a good season. Did you bring up the or

1362
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: he just without no, I did not only that, I

1363
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even know he was in the

1364
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: elevator and I was doing the bad thing where I

1365
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: just had my head down and was on my phone

1366
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: and he uh and he um, you said hello to me,

1367
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: and it was it was great. And he's going now

1368
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: with You know, we've had different conversations about whether he

1369
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 1: looks young, looks he's now doing a permise stubble thing. Um,

1370
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 1: I think I think it's working. I've got some lightning

1371
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: round things. The Bucks are higher on O. J. Howard

1372
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: this year than they were last year when they weren't

1373
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: sure how he's gonna fit Bruce Arians. They love him

1374
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 1: as a blocker, think he's getting better as a receiver

1375
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: and knows the offense better. The Colts are high on

1376
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, have big expectations for him. I know that

1377
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: all the guys were injured at the end of last year.

1378
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: They love him and Carrie willis a safety. Chris Ballard

1379
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: mentioned him in the same sense as Quentin Nelson and

1380
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, a guy who stepped in Day one and

1381
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: was an NFL starter, and we think he's going to

1382
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: be that guy for a long time. They love him.

1383
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: I got a couple of quick ones Sean McVeigh didn't.

1384
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: He is awesome at this. We've seen this in person

1385
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: where without ever having met anyone who's asking the question,

1386
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: he knows everyone's full name and he and he is

1387
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: a skilled orator. But he talked up Darryl Henderson at

1388
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: running back and Tyler Higbee and I just feel like

1389
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: this Rams team because you know, McVeigh is ditching the

1390
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: combine and going back and working with his newly formed

1391
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: coaching staff, that they are, they understand it's some degree

1392
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: that they're in a bit of transition with elements of

1393
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: their offense. And he seemed very upbeat about the whole thing.

1394
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: And from the Falcons side, one note, John bones Fossil

1395
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: was on the same flight as McVeigh and less Need

1396
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: and the old user awkword awkward. I don't know if

1397
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: it was awkward, but I don't know. I would imagine

1398
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 1: we're still friends to some degree. Falcons letting Austin Hooper

1399
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: hit the market that well, that was that was announced

1400
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: that he said. He said, Hooper and Deveandre Campbell will

1401
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: hit the free agent, he will have suitors and didn't

1402
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: demetro of for I don't know who it was. Quinn

1403
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: say that McKinley, technically the option wasn't being picked up,

1404
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: and then apparently they backtracked on that one. So it's like,

1405
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, I almost said something news were they

1406
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: must backtrack. So we'll say, hey, that's good Hunter Henry

1407
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: getting the franchise. That his great news for Austin who yeah,

1408
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: if they if that does happen, And we were kind

1409
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: of connecting the dots, he said that, you know, to

1410
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: LESCo the Chargers GM, saying that was a strong option

1411
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: for for Henry. Yeah, someone's gonna pay Austin Hooper a

1412
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: straordinary amount of money. Did I mention that Joe Douglas

1413
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: um thinks that Brian Winter's their guard really showed a

1414
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: lot of fight, uh, dealing with a very painful shoulder

1415
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: injury that he played through all season that made it

1416
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: through the filter. That's he's the only jet on the

1417
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: contract on that line, and what a warrior he was

1418
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Did I mention that no, okay, now

1419
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: I have anything else? All right, Mark's wearing a bathrobe

1420
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: now here comes the real test. Does he walk back

1421
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 1: to the hotel? All right, well, we'll have to update

1422
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: the listeners on Wednesday, show what happened? You have to

1423
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: walk with me, though I'm not walking like a loan

1424
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: like a loane nut would wait, why wouldn't we walk?

1425
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: Because I could see you society, Oh this isn't going

1426
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: well and like peeling off and suddenly oh, I'll be

1427
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: filming it. Okay, al right, West, you will be filming

1428
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: it for the A T N podcast on Instagram. Ricky,

1429
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: great work on the production. Thank you, thank you. There's

1430
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: that one Mark drop that injured us all perfectly me too,

1431
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: really really in a big spot. But we'll be all right.

1432
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: All right, Like I said, we're back tomorrow with a

1433
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: great show. Guests combine talk Andy and tonight's saying, almost

1434
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: steak dinner. Mark's going to get a big old t bone.

1435
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: He's breaking his diet, and he's saying, I'm embracing the

1436
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: world of flesh once again. Now, I I think the

1437
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: more clean prediction is I'll drop like a hundred and

1438
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: twenty dollars for a Caesar salad or something. You know.

1439
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: By the way, we were talking about this, Mark literally

1440
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: hasn't eaten all day, and now he's gonna just the

1441
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: idea that Mark is getting seated on the bill when

1442
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: you are making up the bill in other ways, I'll

1443
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: just put it that way you're making up. I mean,

1444
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 1: you know I have just them based on history. You

1445
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: find ways to get that tapped to rise. I mentioned

1446
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers Rodes has a pretty em for us. So that's

1447
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: taking a big chunk, if not most of it out. Yeah,

1448
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: I didn't say sixty because someone's getting like, you know,

1449
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: pork butt with like extra shards of bone in it

1450
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: or something. Please excuse me. Do you have the pork

1451
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: button with extra shards of bone out of season and

1452
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: your pork but shards of bone? You're not cooking it

1453
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: right fresh out? All right, let's go. Dan Hands is

1454
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: signing off for doctor Quiet Storm. Do look like a

1455
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: doctor to the mailman? The old boss Rickey Hollywood from

1456
01:16:42,680 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, we say until tomorrow didn't attached to

1457
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: a round