Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Sammy j and welcome to this week's
Speaker 1: episode of Lex We Were a Podcast. This episode is
Speaker 1: so full circle for me because Maxwell is on my podcast. Now.
Speaker 1: If you don't know who Maxwell is, he is a
Speaker 1: Z one DJ who is actually in the room during
Speaker 1: my first interview ever when I was thirteen with Jordan Fisher.
Speaker 1: So having him on is so special to me. He
Speaker 1: is an incredible DJ an interview er. He has interviewed
Speaker 1: the biggest stars from Lady Gaga to Ariana Grande to
Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera and so many more, and I am honored
Speaker 1: to have him on my podcast. I look up to
Speaker 1: him so much, not only as an interviewer, but just
Speaker 1: his energy. I wanted to be like Maxwell, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for you to listen and I look forward to
Speaker 1: your feedback. Maxwell, I can't believe you're on my podcast.
Speaker 1: How full circle is this? This is like one of
Speaker 1: the coolest things. And I'll tell you, Sammy j Um,
Speaker 1: I was waiting for this day to how been so
Speaker 1: I'm glad it finally has. It's you know what they
Speaker 1: say when they say, like all good things come to
Speaker 1: those who wait. That's how I feel right now. So
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Okay, I was looking back at
Speaker 1: my memories. It is next mental be four years, four
Speaker 1: years since we met. And just to give everybody context,
Speaker 1: Maxwell was there when I was quote unquote discovered, and
Speaker 1: he was there during the Jordan Fisher interview, and I
Speaker 1: remember I was sitting in the chair and then you're like, no,
Speaker 1: you're going to like you're sitting in the big boy chair.
Speaker 1: You're sitting in that posting chair. And Okay, I'm about
Speaker 1: to show you this photo. Okay, this is thirteen year
Speaker 1: old me. I'm going to post my Instagram on that day.
Speaker 1: I got to pull it back, I know. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because as you said, you first hopped in the chair
Speaker 1: where Jordan's like next to him, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you're in the commander seat. This is all you. So um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to just like start
Speaker 1: with this, but I'm so freaking proud of you, dude,
Speaker 1: Like you sat in that chair and you never left,
Speaker 1: so that's super cool. I remember when I started, You're like, wait,
Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, and you're like you whispering. You
Speaker 1: said you have to stay an intro and he said,
Speaker 1: like you made me say, like my name is Sammy
Speaker 1: j and I just remember that so clearly. So thank
Speaker 1: you for teaching me. No, well, thank you for letting
Speaker 1: me be there, and thanks for letting me kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, help you launch into what's been so rad now.
Speaker 1: So it's it's all you girlfriend. Man, this is like
Speaker 1: so cool. Oh my god, I know it's been a
Speaker 1: crazy four years. No, seriously, it has been. Um. I
Speaker 1: mean I remember my first thought of when you came
Speaker 1: through and sitting back and and having like a little
Speaker 1: sidebar conversation with dad while we were watching you do
Speaker 1: your thing, and we kind of glanced over at each
Speaker 1: other like this, like a couple of times like wait
Speaker 1: a second, there was I was scared in my heart
Speaker 1: for a little bit because I'm like, there is no
Speaker 1: way that I'm going to have a job in eight
Speaker 1: years if she continues down this path right here. You're
Speaker 1: so flipping good, dude. I remember you said to my dad, so,
Speaker 1: how many any of these has she done? And he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is her first, and you're like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: said I mean not to be you know, turning this
Speaker 1: into a big old gush fest. But I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just was the coolest thing to watch somebody with so
Speaker 1: much passion, like just really jump in because it's it's scary,
Speaker 1: it's it's intimidating. And you were hanging out with one
Speaker 1: of the biggest stars on Earth. I mean, we all
Speaker 1: know what Jordan Fisher has gone on to do, and
Speaker 1: you like it was no big deal to you. You
Speaker 1: took the bull by the horns, as they say, and
Speaker 1: you just kind of win with it. I was freaking out.
Speaker 1: I remember I got to cut gym class for that
Speaker 1: and he was like the fun way to skip, Jim,
Speaker 1: But that is a memorable day for sure. Night. I'm
Speaker 1: not one who really advocates ditching school for stuff, but
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be. That's what I'm saying. I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. For Jordan Fisher. You did the right thing.
Speaker 1: You like, you really did the right thing. Thank you.
Speaker 1: You know we've talked, but I actually don't know, like
Speaker 1: your story. How have you become a DJ? Oh my gosh, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you like the real quick answer, because not
Speaker 1: a lot of people do realize kind of how it
Speaker 1: came together for me. Um. I went to college in California.
Speaker 1: I went to cal Poly in San Luis, Obispo. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever told you this, but
Speaker 1: I used to play sports. I was a college football athlete,
Speaker 1: you know. But then let me stand up like, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm barely getting out of the camera frame. I'm
Speaker 1: not that big, Okay, So I had to think, what
Speaker 1: can I do that's not gonna get me beat up
Speaker 1: on a football field? And I was a speech communication,
Speaker 1: like a not a broadcast communication, but like a general
Speaker 1: communication major in college. And we had a really cool
Speaker 1: radio program at my school and a buddy of mine
Speaker 1: who I played football with. We also shared a lot
Speaker 1: of classes together, and he was a DJ at the
Speaker 1: local radio station in the city in San Luis, Obispo, California,
Speaker 1: small city, central coast. Shout out to everybody who has
Speaker 1: made their way into that beautiful I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: of the most perfect places on the planet. Seriously. So
Speaker 1: when I was kind of begging him a little bit,
Speaker 1: like hey, dude, how did you get this job? Or
Speaker 1: I want to do the same kind of thing? And
Speaker 1: I would pester him for a long time and he
Speaker 1: finally gave me the uh, the opportunity to go and
Speaker 1: meet his program director because at the time they were
Speaker 1: looking for some more people to drive the van around
Speaker 1: what we called beyond the street team, toss off the
Speaker 1: T shirts, do all the fun stuff. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: been to a lot of events, right and you see
Speaker 1: our kind of do that. So I thought, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: my that's my my opening, that's my chance. And I
Speaker 1: met with the program director and it just so happened
Speaker 1: that they were also looking for someone to be like
Speaker 1: a part time on air personality, and that was my
Speaker 1: biggest dream, you know. So I did a couple of auditions.
Speaker 1: I went to the college radio station, practiced a little bit,
Speaker 1: and came back maybe about three weeks after first meeting
Speaker 1: his boss, and he gave me some point or some
Speaker 1: tips and said, hey, I think you got some potential,
Speaker 1: and kind of the same way that who and I met,
Speaker 1: he was like, let's go for it and and you know,
Speaker 1: just see what happens. And I was lucky enough, or
Speaker 1: I guess at that time, blessed enough to be good
Speaker 1: enough to hop on the radio. And that's where I
Speaker 1: first started, and since then it's taken me to a
Speaker 1: bunch of different radio stations, and um, lucky enough and
Speaker 1: blessed enough to have landed in. I mean, Z one
Speaker 1: is just the best. That's kind of how I got
Speaker 1: my start. I mean just believe to myself, and I
Speaker 1: just thought, if he can do it, I can do it.
Speaker 1: Let me bug him a little bit and let's make
Speaker 1: it happen. And then you're gonna make it happen. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, my first interview was Geordan Fisher. Who is
Speaker 1: your first celebrity interview? I mean, wow, you put me
Speaker 1: on the spot because I'm bringing it back. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: bringing it back, man. I think I want to say
Speaker 1: it was like a long time ago, no one who
Speaker 1: was really big. The one that sticks in my mind
Speaker 1: is like maybe the most uh popular or still has
Speaker 1: a career going. Um. I got to while I was
Speaker 1: in Central California. We have this big thing called Central
Speaker 1: Coast or the Fair, the State Fair and massive artists,
Speaker 1: and I got the chance to interview Christina Aguilera backstage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a long time ago. This is like I'm
Speaker 1: talking Genie in the Bottle. Christina Aguilera. Just yeah, that
Speaker 1: was and it was it was scary. It was nerve
Speaker 1: racking for me because it was kind of like one
Speaker 1: of those situations where you've been in several of them
Speaker 1: where you're in the backstage of a show and it's hectic.
Speaker 1: So that was That was one that sticks out of
Speaker 1: my mind because I remember there were people coming in
Speaker 1: and out bringing coffee. Uh, there was music going on
Speaker 1: in the background from the other artists performing. Plus we
Speaker 1: were at a state fair, so it smelled like cows.
Speaker 1: That was a little weird, you know. Interview. From what
Speaker 1: I recall, it was pretty quick. It was more of
Speaker 1: the hey, how's it going, how is it? It was
Speaker 1: nowhere where I've kind of honed my skills to be
Speaker 1: now Um, it wasn't bad, and you know what, it
Speaker 1: makes me think, I need to find a picture of that.
Speaker 1: If I could find a picture, I'm definitely gonna put
Speaker 1: it on I G for Throwback Thursday. But that's the
Speaker 1: one that sticks out in my mind as one of
Speaker 1: my first big artists interviews. I find that I didn't
Speaker 1: know you were a football player. Yeah, I was. I
Speaker 1: grew up playing sports, And I think that that might
Speaker 1: be kind of where my drive comes from to want
Speaker 1: to like be here because me being like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're almost taller than me, dude, which is really scary.
Speaker 1: I'm like five eight on a good day, you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know how tall I am? Are you five
Speaker 1: two on a good okay? All right, well, okay, that
Speaker 1: is a I'm they Thank you for reassuring me that
Speaker 1: that I'm still taller. Thank you. No, my goal is
Speaker 1: to get to five three, and I know I'm not
Speaker 1: getting there, and that's what's so sad. I heard that
Speaker 1: Vans has like a dope sneaker platform that you can rock,
Speaker 1: so maybe that'll help. I think I'm going to look
Speaker 1: up after we talk. But yeah, I played. I played
Speaker 1: college sports, and that was my thing, and like growing
Speaker 1: up and being the smaller guy and always really having
Speaker 1: to scratch and claw to kind of prove myself into
Speaker 1: really kind of earn whatever position it was on the
Speaker 1: playing field. A lot of people who know me growing
Speaker 1: up kind of understand that getting here to ze one
Speaker 1: hundred is a lot kind of like my sporting career
Speaker 1: is that I had to work my butt off to
Speaker 1: really show that I could be that person who got
Speaker 1: the chance to, you know, play in the game. So
Speaker 1: I worked my butt off the same way in my
Speaker 1: radio career like I did to you know, earn a
Speaker 1: college scholarship and too you know, play sports as a
Speaker 1: college athlete. Would you ever do UM interviews instead of
Speaker 1: radio but just for sports? Oh? You know what I
Speaker 1: thought about that. I like interviewing, um all types of
Speaker 1: I mean not only just artists, but athletes. I've had
Speaker 1: some opportunities to do some stuff on some like red
Speaker 1: carpets and events. For sports, it's a little bit more difficult,
Speaker 1: UM because I mean to be quite to be quite honest,
Speaker 1: when you get the chance to talk to athletes, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to you have to relate and
Speaker 1: steer the conversation in a whole different way that I'm
Speaker 1: used to with with interviews talking to artists because as
Speaker 1: we talked to celebrities who are in the music world,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a lot about you know, the
Speaker 1: creativity and maybe they're promoting an album or you know
Speaker 1: something like that. Yes. Yeah, So when I talk sports,
Speaker 1: I kind of have to put my mind into a
Speaker 1: whole different type of a mentality to really get to
Speaker 1: know and really get to uh pinpoint that thing that
Speaker 1: the athlete is passionate about other than the sport, you know.
Speaker 1: So I like to UM, I like to try to
Speaker 1: challenge myself to try to find that in that would
Speaker 1: be kind of cool to talk to like Lebron You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Man, I just want to something crazy.
Speaker 1: Let's go forward week's episode. Kevin Love is my season finale?
Speaker 1: Are you just recorded it? Hold on a second, alright?
Speaker 1: So see what I'm saying, Like it's it's to be
Speaker 1: able to talk to like some another superstar in their
Speaker 1: a world like that, like if you got the plug.
Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Love is only like one degree separation
Speaker 1: from Lebron, So put in a good word for dude.
Speaker 1: He was the absolute sweetest. It's a great episode. Tune
Speaker 1: in for next week. But I remember, I remember a
Speaker 1: few years ago Radio Disney sent me on assignment to
Speaker 1: cover the SPS and I foreign to me but my
Speaker 1: dad and my brother and so my thing that I did,
Speaker 1: I was like, how am I going to set myself apart? Here?
Speaker 1: I am like a fifteen year old girl, just like
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? So what I did
Speaker 1: it was scorching hot and at Disneyland, I was there
Speaker 1: a few days before I got this thing where not
Speaker 1: only sprayed water, but it was a fan. So they
Speaker 1: all came to me, and that's how I did it.
Speaker 1: That's clutch. The spray bottle uh fan thing is one
Speaker 1: of the most underrated things at souvenir shops at Disneyland.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's so worth it. It It got me
Speaker 1: so many they wanted to come to me because it
Speaker 1: was they were sweating out of their minds. And I
Speaker 1: remember it was right after the the Kiki Do You
Speaker 1: Love Me? So I got to do that with Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, oh dude. All right, they came to me
Speaker 1: because of it. But can I ask you how how
Speaker 1: tall was everybody? And how short did you feel? Okay,
Speaker 1: So at that time, I was probably five one and
Speaker 1: I was wearing sandals because I knew i'd be, so
Speaker 1: I wasn't even wearing heels like when you've seen me,
Speaker 1: I've probably been wearing like little wedges or something. So
Speaker 1: at least six five. Everybody they had to hold the
Speaker 1: camera because when I did, it was like it was crazy.
Speaker 1: But dude, that is hilarious. But it's it's cool. It's
Speaker 1: cool when you're you're able to challenge yourself to do that,
Speaker 1: so that's really dope. Challenge is always like good to overcome.
Speaker 1: Like I'm always terrified of live streams, but I've just
Speaker 1: been like trying to do it because like you're talking
Speaker 1: to a camera. But you know, I feel like when
Speaker 1: don't you challenge, you only get better. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that you're you're under a right. I mean it's like, um,
Speaker 1: it adds another tool in your toolbox. I say this
Speaker 1: a lot to my terms, is like that's now a
Speaker 1: skill set that you have that you can whip out
Speaker 1: of your toolbox when it's necessary. Because not all the
Speaker 1: time are you gonna get the chance to sit in
Speaker 1: studio with you know, Lizakchi. Not every time are you
Speaker 1: going to get the opportunity to be right next to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Julia Michaels. But there's gonna be those opportunities
Speaker 1: like now, for instance, I mean, look at the world
Speaker 1: that we're living in. If you hadn't honed those skills,
Speaker 1: you hadn't practiced those abilities to maintain a conversation through
Speaker 1: a digital space like this, um it would you would
Speaker 1: you would be fumbling over yourself. But right now, I
Speaker 1: mean you're already five steps ahead of a lot of
Speaker 1: people because you were willing to take that challenge before
Speaker 1: and and you practice and I mean that's just kind
Speaker 1: of one of those things that not a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I don't think in our position fully understand that to
Speaker 1: have all those different tools. You're Swiss army knife dude.
Speaker 1: You gotta have all those different things and be prepared
Speaker 1: for anything, because anything can happen. I've always just looked
Speaker 1: up to because you're an incredible interviewer and you've also
Speaker 1: interviewed in the crazy places. You did it in a
Speaker 1: ball pit, yes, you've you've wrapped gifts, You've done the
Speaker 1: whole shebang. So which is what is that like doing interviews?
Speaker 1: And how do you concentrate during an interview? Because I'm
Speaker 1: looking for just advice here, how do you, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to like Halsey in a ball pit still focus
Speaker 1: on the interview. But let me tell you, Sammy J.
Speaker 1: That was like a dream come true for I mean,
Speaker 1: first off, for me to be in a just like
Speaker 1: in a ball pit, curled up next to Halsey. I
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, of course your Instagram bio dude.
Speaker 1: I mean I was a guy on the ball pit.
Speaker 1: That's just that was it. Yeah. Um, It's it's hard
Speaker 1: to it's hard to really um and difficult to explain,
Speaker 1: but you really just kind of gotta remember that that
Speaker 1: person that you're next to is just as excited or
Speaker 1: just as out of their element as you are, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's that's one thing that you can both instantly
Speaker 1: relate on from the very big any and that also
Speaker 1: it puts you on an equal playing field to where
Speaker 1: I'm in a ball pit with freaking Halsey, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest pop stars on the planet. But for this
Speaker 1: next five minutes, we're just two goofy people in a
Speaker 1: ball pit, and which is so much fun, which is
Speaker 1: so there you go. That's it. So that's the That's
Speaker 1: what leads and what guides the conversation is just that,
Speaker 1: and what comes from the conversation is just two people
Speaker 1: who are having fun in a ball pit, no matter
Speaker 1: who that other person is that's next to me. I
Speaker 1: mean that same day that was at our I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio Music Award or not awards but festival, accuse me
Speaker 1: years ago and uh, in that same day, I was
Speaker 1: in the same ballpit with French Montana. Nobody when was
Speaker 1: the last time the French Montana was in a ball pit? Yo?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Never? But the thing was
Speaker 1: is that we were just being too just goofy people,
Speaker 1: just having a conversation in this absurd um. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: so when when you're asking about like how's it to
Speaker 1: be doing those things, it's I'm doing interviews with one
Speaker 1: d holding puppies, you know what I mean. But it's
Speaker 1: just like you really have to understand when they brought
Speaker 1: those puppies. Oh my goodness, that was I think my
Speaker 1: first I Heart Music festival. That's actually when Jordans introduced
Speaker 1: me to Radio Disney, and I remember there was this
Speaker 1: I was just like holding like an absurd amount of
Speaker 1: puppies and they could be adopted and I was like, Dad,
Speaker 1: we need to get to know and I cried. It's
Speaker 1: but the thing is is that the same feeling, the
Speaker 1: same rush of emotions that you're having, the same thing
Speaker 1: that whoever that superstar is that's next to you is having,
Speaker 1: and you equal there cool people forget that. I think
Speaker 1: that they're human and that's what stuff you do exactly.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I'll tell you that you since day
Speaker 1: one have really understood and noticed and you know, for
Speaker 1: someone And I don't like to get on the idea
Speaker 1: of like your age and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it's really rad but I just think that
Speaker 1: you're just like a dope journalists, interviewer, you know, broadcaster,
Speaker 1: because I mean just being on being real with you,
Speaker 1: because you don't have that same sense of fawning over
Speaker 1: someone or losing your composure when you're put in a
Speaker 1: situation as absurd as it might be, even just being
Speaker 1: in a radio station studio, like you're hanging out at
Speaker 1: Radio Disney. Oh you know how many rad people have
Speaker 1: come through that studio before you will be there afterwards.
Speaker 1: But you never lose your cool. And it's because you're
Speaker 1: able to just really kind of just understand that you're
Speaker 1: in this situation with this other really awesome person, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, as I keep on doing this,
Speaker 1: you're both equals. And that's why people love talking with you.
Speaker 1: And that's why I hope a lot of the artists
Speaker 1: that I get to chat with like talking to me,
Speaker 1: because it's like for that little bit of time where
Speaker 1: they're running through crazy promo for a day or five
Speaker 1: days or ten days in a row, there for fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes of time, they're just hanging out with somebody who
Speaker 1: was just like, you're just a regular person like I
Speaker 1: am there you think, you know, as talented as people are.
Speaker 1: They're just people, and that's what people forget, and then
Speaker 1: you built them up on this pedestal, but then you
Speaker 1: forget that they're human. They believe like we do, they
Speaker 1: cry like we do. I think my favorite piece that
Speaker 1: you've done is when you went to an arcade with
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish and you just you beat her, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I kicked not even you don't even know that. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. We have so much footage of me just
Speaker 1: like whooping her buttet like all the games. Dude, she
Speaker 1: she was threatening, but she you just came out. Listen,
Speaker 1: I come of play. There's no there's no holding back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't care if you're
Speaker 1: Billy Eilish or if you're you're my grandma. If we're
Speaker 1: playing Dance Dance Revolution, you're going down in the in
Speaker 1: the story. But that was like one of the coolest
Speaker 1: things ever. And the other thing that's really rad about
Speaker 1: that is a lot of people don't know this is
Speaker 1: that every time I've seen her since then, we instantly connect.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing that's really cool about some of
Speaker 1: the situations I've been in is that I've been able
Speaker 1: to have just some really just chill and genuine conversation
Speaker 1: sations with a lot of these A less superstars first
Speaker 1: off interview, you know what I mean. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: just like we were going back in her mind when
Speaker 1: she's even like, dude, next time I see you, I'm
Speaker 1: we're going to the arcade, bro, I'm kicking. Like we
Speaker 1: have that conversation, whether it be a thirty second convo
Speaker 1: or we go on for ten minutes talking about it,
Speaker 1: it's just something that we can relate on, and it's
Speaker 1: really really cool and fun for me to see to
Speaker 1: this day. Here's another one that a lot of people
Speaker 1: people don't know. Excuse me, Katie Perry years ago. I'm
Speaker 1: talking when she was just doing her Warped tour stuff,
Speaker 1: when her first song like I Kissed a Girl came
Speaker 1: out and really was smashed on pop radio. Um, she
Speaker 1: came to a radio station I was working with. I
Speaker 1: was working in Columbus, Ohio at w n C I,
Speaker 1: and we played Dance Dance Revolution when it was like
Speaker 1: on the Xbox right. And I've spoken to her tons
Speaker 1: of times after that, and every time that she sees me,
Speaker 1: she's always like, dude, year, I still need to kick
Speaker 1: your butt at that video game, and I'm like, that
Speaker 1: was like ten years ago. And she was like, I'm
Speaker 1: never going to forget that. I'm never gonna forget that.
Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa, that's coming from Katie Perry,
Speaker 1: Like holy cow, you know, but but that's just the
Speaker 1: whole part of humanizing like these people. But I will.
Speaker 1: I can't always keep my cool and I have dann
Speaker 1: girls because there who well in my head like of
Speaker 1: course I've made a vision board, Okay, all right, and
Speaker 1: it's like my dream interviews and there are three dream
Speaker 1: interviews and I know those three. I will fan girl
Speaker 1: even though I know they're human. Okay, Okay, Sell Obama,
Speaker 1: Linn Madmalmarana An Oprah. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you better that.
Speaker 1: I mean if if that's if you don't fan girl
Speaker 1: over like Oprah, I wouldn't be able to talk you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, exactly human. But she's like she's yeah,
Speaker 1: the same thing, the same thing with Michelle Obama, Like
Speaker 1: I like, you come up with some of the dopest playlists,
Speaker 1: I might not be able to talk to you either.
Speaker 1: Lynn Manuel, are you met him? I have not the
Speaker 1: closest I've come was and I'm surprised you hadn't talked
Speaker 1: to Jordan about this? Was I got to have no
Speaker 1: I mean, like, did he ever get you to see
Speaker 1: Hamilton's while he was performing on Broway? Didn't see it
Speaker 1: while he was in it. But when I found out
Speaker 1: I have talked to Jordan's about Lynn any time I
Speaker 1: can talk to him, because that's like what I want
Speaker 1: to talk. And I was like, I don't tell me
Speaker 1: about Lynne, Like I need to know my goal. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm putting this on the univers season to Lynne, please
Speaker 1: come on my podcast, Like, yeah, we got to come
Speaker 1: on Lynn putting this out in the universe. I got
Speaker 1: to go to Jordan's final performance when he was on
Speaker 1: Broadway and Hamilton's Hamilton's Hamilton's Lynn. I touched the ground
Speaker 1: on stage and I was like, there you go. Take
Speaker 1: me now, who do you fan? Girl? It's like, um,
Speaker 1: let me see like I have before, Like, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm definitely a fan of I lost all
Speaker 1: train of thought. And this was a while ago. Rihanna,
Speaker 1: Um I got the chance to I interviewed her a
Speaker 1: long time. It wasn't during an interview, this is actually
Speaker 1: during a meet and greet at a concert when I
Speaker 1: really started to become like yeah, Like Rihanna is like
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I took this picture with her where I
Speaker 1: was smiling and she looked over and she said, boy,
Speaker 1: you better smile bigger than that, and I almost like
Speaker 1: almost melted. So I found girl of real' and that's
Speaker 1: how I took it. Sammy. I was like, Okay, it
Speaker 1: might be she kind of so I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go I'm gonna take that one with me forever. Um, Rihanna.
Speaker 1: I found girl over j Lo a couple of times too,
Speaker 1: just because her presence. It's not only so like comforting
Speaker 1: and calming, but it's also when you, you know, you
Speaker 1: start to think about who she is in the game,
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like WHOA. So I was really
Speaker 1: really smitten by her and someone else who I've had
Speaker 1: to really check myself and I've had to control myself
Speaker 1: around because I know that not only just because of
Speaker 1: who she is in the game, but also just what
Speaker 1: she means to so many people. Was Lady Gaga and
Speaker 1: you were in her documentary for like a split interview,
Speaker 1: I was I was so nervous during that whole interview
Speaker 1: I remember I saw you on her documentary, and I
Speaker 1: remembering I was like, is that you in the studio
Speaker 1: just right over here. I was nervous that entire interview,
Speaker 1: only because not only was it it's Lady Gaga, but
Speaker 1: just because she is so intelligent and she is so brilliant,
Speaker 1: and she is so heartfelt with everything that she says
Speaker 1: and does that I just didn't want to screw it up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I was like, I
Speaker 1: better not f this up, dude, because you were like
Speaker 1: the coolest person on earth. The more I get to
Speaker 1: know about you, the more I get to learn about you.
Speaker 1: And um, there were a lot of people in the
Speaker 1: studio at that time too, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people watching me conduct this conversation.
Speaker 1: She had a really heavy day that day, um, but
Speaker 1: you know, I still was just in awe, not only
Speaker 1: just of being Gaga, but just how intelligent she is
Speaker 1: and how um just warming she is. I Mean, it
Speaker 1: just was like, do you still get nervous before interviews sometimes?
Speaker 1: I mean I think that like anxious good? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I really do. I got nervous before this, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie to you. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really it's just like I love um.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest reason why I get nervous is
Speaker 1: because it's an opportunity for me to to learn from someone.
Speaker 1: It's an opportunity for me. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's like, I'm anxious. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to whether it's talked to Harry Styles about his brand
Speaker 1: new album. I'm like, I'm excited to get to talk
Speaker 1: to him and learn what's going on in his head
Speaker 1: at this point in time. You know, and been here,
Speaker 1: I mean I was. It took me ten minutes to
Speaker 1: get set up before we connected here. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to screw this up. I want to
Speaker 1: hear your craziest interview story, oh, favorite interview story. And
Speaker 1: I know you can't say names, but the most bizarre,
Speaker 1: odd or uncomfortable interviews you Okay, I can't. I will
Speaker 1: say names. I'll say names about Yeah, I'll drop I'll
Speaker 1: drop names. Alright, So most bizarre, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: for a lot of good reasons and bad. Maybe was
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande. I'm going to spill some tea here, Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me, all right now, The reason why it was
Speaker 1: really good was because she was and it's really unfair.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people kind of shroud
Speaker 1: who she is in this really weird odd I don't
Speaker 1: want to say negativity all the time, but in this
Speaker 1: weird kind to nobody really fully gives her the benefit
Speaker 1: of just all the amounts of everybody watching her every move,
Speaker 1: you know, and just how crazy that must be to
Speaker 1: be that person on the receiving Could you imagine everybody
Speaker 1: commenting or watching you when you just wanted to go
Speaker 1: to CVS to grab like a toothbrush, you know. So
Speaker 1: it was weird because of that, because I was already
Speaker 1: kind of in my mind. What the other part that
Speaker 1: made it really weird was that she came into the
Speaker 1: studio at the time that she was dating Big Sean
Speaker 1: with Big Sean all right. Now, Not only did she
Speaker 1: come into the building while she was dating Big Sean
Speaker 1: with Big Sean, but we were told not to ask
Speaker 1: any questions about Big Sean. So the part that makes
Speaker 1: it even weirder is that Big Sean was sitting in
Speaker 1: the corner of the room while I'm interviewing Ariana grand
Speaker 1: Day and not supposed to ask questions about Big Sean,
Speaker 1: but he's in the corner of the room while I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there. It's so it was so not only was
Speaker 1: that like super difficult to not literally address the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room. Um, I didn't. I did not, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you because I respected that was something that
Speaker 1: she didn't want to talk to. But the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter that this dude is like looking at me
Speaker 1: while I'm talking to his girlfriend and everybody knows they're dating.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows what's going on. But then I'll tell you
Speaker 1: where it was super cool that I maybe only shared
Speaker 1: this with a few people is after the conversation, we
Speaker 1: had a fun chat. I've got to find that interview somewhere.
Speaker 1: And he came up to me afterwards that she was
Speaker 1: walking through and you've been around our studio space. She
Speaker 1: was in our kind of lobby area with her people leaving,
Speaker 1: and he pulled me aside and he was like, look, bro,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, that's like the coolest
Speaker 1: thing ever. Like He's like, I've been with her for
Speaker 1: the past you know, a couple of hours going and
Speaker 1: doing all these radio promos and TV things or whatever.
Speaker 1: And he was like, I really appreciate the way that
Speaker 1: you made my girl feel comfortable. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it blew my mind because he genuinely came
Speaker 1: inside to me and told me that. He was like, dude, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so nice, so genuine. So it ended with
Speaker 1: like a positive. But it was the most awkward, weird
Speaker 1: because it was all that anyone was talking about in
Speaker 1: the trade magazines on the elephant in the room, and
Speaker 1: you just couldn't d literally staring at me. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was really cool. Yeah, so that was that
Speaker 1: was probably the most weird situation. Yeah, you have this
Speaker 1: essence about you were you just like make people feel comfortable,
Speaker 1: like automatically. I remember I was petrified before the Jourdany interview.
Speaker 1: I was terrified, and then you just made everything so
Speaker 1: common it's like, okay, it's all good, Well, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I tried to That's what
Speaker 1: I try to do. I mean, I'm just listen, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to be the best me I can be,
Speaker 1: which is which is just all I know how to do.
Speaker 1: And I'm just yeah, it's all you can do. And
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I guess in that situation, blessed and
Speaker 1: fortunate to be able to allow whoever it is that
Speaker 1: sitting across from me feel that same way. And it's
Speaker 1: just um, you know, shout out to mom and dad.
Speaker 1: Thank you Mom and Dad. I love you guys. So,
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, I'm assuming is one of your top ones
Speaker 1: up there? What about like your craziest story, So the craziest,
Speaker 1: like weirdest or like wacky. Um, I think we kind
Speaker 1: of already touched on. I mean just some of the
Speaker 1: situations say it again, yeah, yeah, but also like just
Speaker 1: being like in the ball pits, you know, um, being
Speaker 1: in arcades, like really kind of when I got to
Speaker 1: do like a dance battle with baby Shark, Like those
Speaker 1: things are like when I sit back and think about
Speaker 1: those are like the craziest and weirdest things that I
Speaker 1: know when my life stories like being told old people
Speaker 1: would be like this dude had the most random like
Speaker 1: encounters ever, Like every it's pretty popping. I can think
Speaker 1: about it. I don't do that enough. But I've been
Speaker 1: lucky enough to not really be in a situation where
Speaker 1: there's been anything like too awkward, no negative space or energy,
Speaker 1: you know, there hasn't really been a time in my
Speaker 1: career where somebody's coming has been in a bad like
Speaker 1: that would be yeah, let's if we have some around
Speaker 1: here there it is. I remember, I think it was
Speaker 1: like a year. It was some time at night, and
Speaker 1: I remember my mom and I were in the car
Speaker 1: listening to the radio and I heard your voice. I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh my god, that's Maxwell. Is that weird
Speaker 1: for you, because it's weird so odd. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I know him. It's it's like when you see someone
Speaker 1: that you like know that are like yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: have a friend who's like on the Disney Channel and
Speaker 1: I was just flipping channels and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's her. It's like like you know them
Speaker 1: and your friends with them in real life, and it's
Speaker 1: like you see for me for me, like a lot
Speaker 1: of artists. I mean, I think you and I are
Speaker 1: both in that same place where we're kind of lucky
Speaker 1: to be able to call some of these really you know,
Speaker 1: talented people friends. So that's like the weirdest thing to
Speaker 1: me to literally be at home and I'll watch any
Speaker 1: one of these TV shows from like the Masks singer
Speaker 1: when Jojo see what takes off the t Rex hat
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, holy crap, dude, like I know her.
Speaker 1: I get weirded out by it. I always I kind
Speaker 1: of wonder that sometimes because you know, I'm here in
Speaker 1: the studio and I chill out and I do my thing,
Speaker 1: and there's intern tears sometimes. So I'm here by myself,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of strange when I think about how
Speaker 1: many people listen. Oh man, it's I mean, there's times
Speaker 1: where I'll be talking, We'll be playing a new I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at the computer screen here. We'll be playing
Speaker 1: a new Arianna Grande song to say her name again,
Speaker 1: And twenty minutes later, my voice is on her Instagram
Speaker 1: story because she's listening to Z one recording it. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I think about it, like what like
Speaker 1: like I'll remember the very first time that Nick Jonas jealous.
Speaker 1: I remember he was in l A and we're one
Speaker 1: of the few stations that are on the serious XM
Speaker 1: app also, and he had his he was in this
Speaker 1: like his fiat in Los Angeles. I'm playing this song,
Speaker 1: he's recording it, and then like people are hitting me
Speaker 1: up like do you know that you're on Nick Jonas
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you talking about? It's just
Speaker 1: like the weirdest thing. It messes with your mind sometimes
Speaker 1: because you're like, they're actually about it? Are people listening
Speaker 1: like it's it's range, It's the oddest thing. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense, not at all, not at all whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't even know. But since you are a very talented
Speaker 1: radio host, how do you judge? I'm always curious by
Speaker 1: this because you've played so many hits. Can you tell
Speaker 1: when something is going to be a hit? And if
Speaker 1: so one of the qualities, Wow, you know what, that's
Speaker 1: a tough one because I think it's just it's a
Speaker 1: feeling you get, um and because I've been I've been
Speaker 1: in music for a while and I've listened to a
Speaker 1: lot of songs. As you said, some just feel right.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a certain sound, if it's a tip. It's just
Speaker 1: there's really no way to explain it. Because all of
Speaker 1: these artists create records from their heart, you know, even
Speaker 1: if it's just the most simplest pop record, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's still a story that they're choosing to tell.
Speaker 1: But sometimes one just jumps out that feels bigger than
Speaker 1: the others, right, you know, Yeah, it's just a feeling
Speaker 1: and I don't it just it just hits you sometimes. Um,
Speaker 1: But you can't really tell that because there are other
Speaker 1: songs that you would never think would become massive hits.
Speaker 1: But then when you sit back and you think about
Speaker 1: it a little bit, you realize why they did. But
Speaker 1: you can't tell from the very beginning. Let's think, did
Speaker 1: you ever think that, like Louis Capaldi, someone you loved,
Speaker 1: was going to be on this record that everybody in
Speaker 1: the world, you know, jams to. It's weird because everyone
Speaker 1: has such a different taste in music, so you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to kind of stand exactly what it's
Speaker 1: so odd? What for all the musicians listening here, and
Speaker 1: what advice do you have for musicians who are want
Speaker 1: to get something on the radio or I want to
Speaker 1: write a song that they think would be popular. First off,
Speaker 1: I would say, and I hear this from a lot
Speaker 1: of big time songwriters along with art a lot of artists,
Speaker 1: is you just have to write what's true to you,
Speaker 1: what is really a feeling that you have inside And
Speaker 1: it might sound like it's kind of selfish, but you
Speaker 1: have like an awesome you know time chatting with Julia Michaels,
Speaker 1: who is like one of the biggest and best songwriters
Speaker 1: on Earth. She's brilliant. Have you heard the song Anxiety
Speaker 1: heard I'd love Julia Michaels, Julia, Julia shout out to
Speaker 1: shout out to you an you know. I the reason
Speaker 1: I have this podcast is because I filmed the pilot
Speaker 1: with her. Because of that interview. Yeah, you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and and and I'll tell you and I
Speaker 1: can imagine that a lot of it had to do
Speaker 1: is that you were able and she was able to
Speaker 1: really just be who she is, you know, and she
Speaker 1: was able to speak her truth and and that comes
Speaker 1: out through her music. So for like an upcoming artist,
Speaker 1: I would say, and I hear this, like I said
Speaker 1: from a lot of different people who have been in
Speaker 1: the game for a long time, is that you really
Speaker 1: can't fake, you know, you really can't try to be
Speaker 1: somebody else. Don't come into the game thinking, yeah, that
Speaker 1: you want to be the next Justin Bieber, Like there's
Speaker 1: only one Justin Bieber. Don't come into the game thinking,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I gotta be the next Miley Cyrus
Speaker 1: and create with that being on the front of your brain. Um.
Speaker 1: You know that stuff happens for those artists over time
Speaker 1: because they're they're tapping into true emotions that they have
Speaker 1: they've got. You know, they're they're they're them. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're them. So I would say, just try to
Speaker 1: be the best you that you can be, especially now
Speaker 1: where music can be consumed so many different places that
Speaker 1: you know, fans want to come to you because of
Speaker 1: what they feel that you are saying, um, and how
Speaker 1: you're speaking your truth and how they can relate to
Speaker 1: the story that you're sharing. So if you're trying to
Speaker 1: be somebody that you're not, you're building a relationship right
Speaker 1: through it. They can see right through it. You're building
Speaker 1: a relationship that is built off of lies and nobody.
Speaker 1: Kind of like it's the same thing that goes with
Speaker 1: interviews too. You can tell when something's you're your own
Speaker 1: like no one else can be maxwell, you know, like
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that's exactly it. It's it's just be yourself.
Speaker 1: Don't try to create a hit. Um. A lot of
Speaker 1: people have said that they've said they've had their best
Speaker 1: success when they just went into the studio and they
Speaker 1: just wrote what felt right to them and that was
Speaker 1: what came of the session. And next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got a song on See one hundred and you're
Speaker 1: just like Lewis Capaldi was just like I was just
Speaker 1: writing a song that you know, I was dealing with
Speaker 1: loss at the time. That's how I felt. There you go,
Speaker 1: he was being awesome and he's been open and we
Speaker 1: all connected to it. So that's all you can do
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And you know you
Speaker 1: had a podcast, is it you haven't been putting out episodes? No? Actually,
Speaker 1: you know that's really funny that you have been, and
Speaker 1: whether you know it or not, you have been kind
Speaker 1: of like the fire under my butt to get back
Speaker 1: into doing stuff like that. Like we I had we
Speaker 1: myself and my friend Raven who was in who actually
Speaker 1: is and I should still say is in Dallas. She
Speaker 1: works her radiostation in Dallas, and we threw similar to
Speaker 1: what we're doing here. We launched like two different seasons
Speaker 1: of a podcast that we called Friends with Work Benefits
Speaker 1: and it was just super cool. She and I. UH.
Speaker 1: One issue with that was that the scheduling. She's a
Speaker 1: midday personality on a bunch of radio stations and it's
Speaker 1: really dir I'm at night, coming together people using stuff.
Speaker 1: So that kind of we we had planned to do
Speaker 1: more seasons, but then actually too, as all this kind
Speaker 1: of crazy coronavirus stuff hit, it just became increasingly more difficult.
Speaker 1: And then I started to do some stuff where, um,
Speaker 1: I actually have recorded quite a few more episodes of
Speaker 1: the podcast that I was doing by myself that I
Speaker 1: call It's Okay to be Loud, I know. And the
Speaker 1: people you got for that, those I've listened to them.
Speaker 1: They're incredible. You had liked the Jonas Brothers, Yeah, super cool.
Speaker 1: You had what the Chain Smokers. Yeah. So like so
Speaker 1: what I started to do is really start to get
Speaker 1: back into doing that. And it's been it's really been
Speaker 1: watching like how driven and I'm I'm not lying to
Speaker 1: you at all when I've been sitting back and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: Sammy Jay is kicking. But right now, like, if I
Speaker 1: want to maintain this, if I want to continue to,
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that I'm doing the best that
Speaker 1: I can do, I better start kicking. But also, um so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I started to, uh, I started to put together
Speaker 1: some episodes together with my with my producers. We started
Speaker 1: to reach out to some more artists. We started to
Speaker 1: gather some interviews and uh, yeah, so I've got some.
Speaker 1: I've got some in the can. We're dealing with the
Speaker 1: design process now and the most stressful part because I,
Speaker 1: oh my god, for like my cover, it took me
Speaker 1: forever to decide because it's like this is because my
Speaker 1: podcast was the first thing that I ever like created
Speaker 1: from my mind, like the world's gonna see it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was so particularly just I couldn't decide, dude,
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, it's been like the coolest thing.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you again, like it really sparked with
Speaker 1: me when I started hearing your voice on do you
Speaker 1: know what? I never I heard that they were playing it.
Speaker 1: People on my school were like, we heard you in
Speaker 1: the radio context. I never heard it, all right, I
Speaker 1: promise you. I was like, oh, all right, let me
Speaker 1: get myself together. I was like, Maxwell, I'm starting to
Speaker 1: hear Sammy j on your show right now, she's got
Speaker 1: you played my ad for my podcast. I have to
Speaker 1: try to find oh you know what. I can't touch
Speaker 1: the computer now because mo Bounce is working from home,
Speaker 1: and if I mess with it now, but yeah, like
Speaker 1: I was going to play it for you now. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, all right, timing to step the
Speaker 1: game up, buddy, because if not, so you So thank
Speaker 1: you for being my inspiration. Seriously, dude, you're my inspiration,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's only fair to leave
Speaker 1: this conversation you do. You often you have a stamp
Speaker 1: of approval to see if something is Maxwill approved. So
Speaker 1: I want to know is this podcast Max Will approve
Speaker 1: a thousand a thousand percent. I'm jealous of the fact
Speaker 1: that you got to hang out with my homie Jordan
Speaker 1: Fisher again, the hats that you were drawing and coloring
Speaker 1: with one of the people don't even realize how much
Speaker 1: of an artist and how brilliant of an artist aside
Speaker 1: from music that Julia Michaels is. You brought that out
Speaker 1: in her, you know what I mean. But then last,
Speaker 1: at least I'll tell you this, Sammy j just the
Speaker 1: fact that you got to touch Liza Cochy all the
Speaker 1: Maxwill Approved stamps everywhere every aware like you're kicking button
Speaker 1: taking names. Dude, I'm increasingly proud of you. So hats
Speaker 1: off to you for sure. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That is I am serious crazy. It's been a crazy
Speaker 1: four years. I remember the first time we met, you
Speaker 1: were hosting. Well that's what I also want to ask you,
Speaker 1: what is your biggest accomplishment like, because I remember during
Speaker 1: the when we met, it was a Jason Drule concern.
Speaker 1: You hosted it and it was like over Time Square
Speaker 1: and You're like, this is what my goal has been.
Speaker 1: So was that like your biggest career chief and or
Speaker 1: has there been something else? I'll leave you with this,
Speaker 1: my biggest accomplishment like has has yet to be achieved? Um,
Speaker 1: I mean there's still so much that I want to do.
Speaker 1: That was cool, Those opportunities were awesome. All the amazing
Speaker 1: stuff I've gotten to do with Nickelodeon, been seventy ft
Speaker 1: tall on a giant Jumbo tron in Times Square was nothing. Um,
Speaker 1: I would have ever dreamt when I started thinking, like
Speaker 1: we started this conversation, I'm just a football kid, let
Speaker 1: me try this out. I never imagine those things, and
Speaker 1: those just you know, fueled the fire to want to
Speaker 1: do more, to want to perform more if that's the case,
Speaker 1: or just to want to be better. How can we
Speaker 1: do that more? Consistently. How can I, you know, be
Speaker 1: that guy to make each and every one of these
Speaker 1: artists feel the most comfortable that they feel. So um,
Speaker 1: I've gotten the opportunity to do a lot of really
Speaker 1: cool stuff, not gonna lie, But my biggest accomplishment, I
Speaker 1: think is it's still it's still on the other side
Speaker 1: of it. You know. Oh what I'll tell you. And
Speaker 1: I've told someone who you had the chance to talk to,
Speaker 1: and I've had a conversation with him, Ryan Seacrest, you know,
Speaker 1: you and I did. We've had these convos. Bro, when
Speaker 1: you're tired, when you want to kick your feet up
Speaker 1: and you want to relax a little bit, you already
Speaker 1: know you've got somebody to step in and be all right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, So I've I've
Speaker 1: kind of put that type of an energy out there
Speaker 1: and uh, and that's what I'm driving and striving towards.
Speaker 1: He is a machine. I don't know how seeing him
Speaker 1: in action is like the best thing to study whole
Speaker 1: another ball game, right, I know, Listen, you're way you're
Speaker 1: way ahead of the curve and getting there, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm doing my best to work towards that. Also
Speaker 1: so I mean, all you continue to do is just
Speaker 1: you know, work our tails off and together. I've been
Speaker 1: told before that success is when you know, uh, preparation
Speaker 1: and opportunity meet. So I'm trying to prepare for when
Speaker 1: that opportunity comes, so that way, when I'm ready, that's
Speaker 1: where success lies. So still a lot to come, not
Speaker 1: only from me, but from you too, dude, like you're
Speaker 1: doing it. Boo, you're doing it. Thank you guys so
Speaker 1: much for listening to this week's episode. Maxwell, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on. Make sure you go follow Maxwell on Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's at in Maxwell's house. He is a pretty popping Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, and don't forget to follow me
Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's Sammy Jay. That's I T S S
Speaker 1: A M M y E j A y e. And also,
Speaker 1: if you haven't already, you should totally subscribe to the
Speaker 1: podcast and leave a common if you'd like next week's episode.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna love. It's gonna be our season finale,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to say, and it is with NBA
Speaker 1: All Star and mental health advocate Kevin Love. Is such
Speaker 1: a good episode. You're gonna love it. I love it
Speaker 1: and I will see you next week. Bye.