1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Sammy j and welcome to this week's 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: episode of Lex We Were a Podcast. This episode is 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: so full circle for me because Maxwell is on my podcast. Now. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: If you don't know who Maxwell is, he is a 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Z one DJ who is actually in the room during 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: my first interview ever when I was thirteen with Jordan Fisher. 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: So having him on is so special to me. He 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: is an incredible DJ an interview er. He has interviewed 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the biggest stars from Lady Gaga to Ariana Grande to 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera and so many more, and I am honored 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: to have him on my podcast. I look up to 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: him so much, not only as an interviewer, but just 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: his energy. I wanted to be like Maxwell, I can't 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: wait for you to listen and I look forward to 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: your feedback. Maxwell, I can't believe you're on my podcast. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: How full circle is this? This is like one of 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the coolest things. And I'll tell you, Sammy j Um, 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: I was waiting for this day to how been so 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad it finally has. It's you know what they 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: say when they say, like all good things come to 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: those who wait. That's how I feel right now. So 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Okay, I was looking back at 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: my memories. It is next mental be four years, four 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: years since we met. And just to give everybody context, 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: Maxwell was there when I was quote unquote discovered, and 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: he was there during the Jordan Fisher interview, and I 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: remember I was sitting in the chair and then you're like, no, 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: you're going to like you're sitting in the big boy chair. 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: You're sitting in that posting chair. And Okay, I'm about 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: to show you this photo. Okay, this is thirteen year 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: old me. I'm going to post my Instagram on that day. 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: I got to pull it back, I know. Oh yeah, 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: because as you said, you first hopped in the chair 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: where Jordan's like next to him, and I'm like, no, 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: you're in the commander seat. This is all you. So um, 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to just like start 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: with this, but I'm so freaking proud of you, dude, 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Like you sat in that chair and you never left, 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: so that's super cool. I remember when I started, You're like, wait, 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: hold up, hold up, and you're like you whispering. You 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: said you have to stay an intro and he said, 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: like you made me say, like my name is Sammy 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: j and I just remember that so clearly. So thank 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: you for teaching me. No, well, thank you for letting 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: me be there, and thanks for letting me kind of, 46 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, help you launch into what's been so rad now. 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: So it's it's all you girlfriend. Man, this is like 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: so cool. Oh my god, I know it's been a 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: crazy four years. No, seriously, it has been. Um. I 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: mean I remember my first thought of when you came 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: through and sitting back and and having like a little 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: sidebar conversation with dad while we were watching you do 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: your thing, and we kind of glanced over at each 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: other like this, like a couple of times like wait 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: a second, there was I was scared in my heart 56 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: for a little bit because I'm like, there is no 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: way that I'm going to have a job in eight 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: years if she continues down this path right here. You're 59 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: so flipping good, dude. I remember you said to my dad, so, 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: how many any of these has she done? And he 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is her first, and you're like, no, yeah, 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: said I mean not to be you know, turning this 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: into a big old gush fest. But I mean, it's 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: just was the coolest thing to watch somebody with so 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: much passion, like just really jump in because it's it's scary, 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: it's it's intimidating. And you were hanging out with one 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: of the biggest stars on Earth. I mean, we all 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: know what Jordan Fisher has gone on to do, and 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: you like it was no big deal to you. You 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: took the bull by the horns, as they say, and 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: you just kind of win with it. I was freaking out. 72 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: I remember I got to cut gym class for that 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: and he was like the fun way to skip, Jim, 74 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: But that is a memorable day for sure. Night. I'm 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: not one who really advocates ditching school for stuff, but 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be. That's what I'm saying. I'll be 77 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: honest with you. For Jordan Fisher. You did the right thing. 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: You like, you really did the right thing. Thank you. 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: You know we've talked, but I actually don't know, like 80 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: your story. How have you become a DJ? Oh my gosh, Okay, 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I'll give you like the real quick answer, because not 82 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people do realize kind of how it 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: came together for me. Um. I went to college in California. 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I went to cal Poly in San Luis, Obispo. And 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever told you this, but 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I used to play sports. I was a college football athlete, 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: you know. But then let me stand up like, I'm 88 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: not I'm barely getting out of the camera frame. I'm 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: not that big, Okay, So I had to think, what 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: can I do that's not gonna get me beat up 91 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: on a football field? And I was a speech communication, 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: like a not a broadcast communication, but like a general 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: communication major in college. And we had a really cool 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: radio program at my school and a buddy of mine 95 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: who I played football with. We also shared a lot 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: of classes together, and he was a DJ at the 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: local radio station in the city in San Luis, Obispo, California, 98 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: small city, central coast. Shout out to everybody who has 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: made their way into that beautiful I mean, it's one 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: of the most perfect places on the planet. Seriously. So 101 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: when I was kind of begging him a little bit, 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: like hey, dude, how did you get this job? Or 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: I want to do the same kind of thing? And 104 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: I would pester him for a long time and he 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: finally gave me the uh, the opportunity to go and 106 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: meet his program director because at the time they were 107 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: looking for some more people to drive the van around 108 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: what we called beyond the street team, toss off the 109 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: T shirts, do all the fun stuff. I mean, you've 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: been to a lot of events, right and you see 111 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: our kind of do that. So I thought, Okay, that's 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: my that's my my opening, that's my chance. And I 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: met with the program director and it just so happened 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: that they were also looking for someone to be like 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: a part time on air personality, and that was my 116 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: biggest dream, you know. So I did a couple of auditions. 117 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I went to the college radio station, practiced a little bit, 118 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: and came back maybe about three weeks after first meeting 119 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: his boss, and he gave me some point or some 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: tips and said, hey, I think you got some potential, 121 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: and kind of the same way that who and I met, 122 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: he was like, let's go for it and and you know, 123 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: just see what happens. And I was lucky enough, or 124 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: I guess at that time, blessed enough to be good 125 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: enough to hop on the radio. And that's where I 126 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: first started, and since then it's taken me to a 127 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: bunch of different radio stations, and um, lucky enough and 128 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: blessed enough to have landed in. I mean, Z one 129 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: is just the best. That's kind of how I got 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: my start. I mean just believe to myself, and I 131 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: just thought, if he can do it, I can do it. 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: Let me bug him a little bit and let's make 133 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: it happen. And then you're gonna make it happen. Well, 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, my first interview was Geordan Fisher. Who is 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: your first celebrity interview? I mean, wow, you put me 136 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: on the spot because I'm bringing it back. Yeah, you're 137 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: bringing it back, man. I think I want to say 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: it was like a long time ago, no one who 139 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: was really big. The one that sticks in my mind 140 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: is like maybe the most uh popular or still has 141 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: a career going. Um. I got to while I was 142 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: in Central California. We have this big thing called Central 143 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Coast or the Fair, the State Fair and massive artists, 144 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: and I got the chance to interview Christina Aguilera backstage. Yeah, 145 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: this is a long time ago. This is like I'm 146 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: talking Genie in the Bottle. Christina Aguilera. Just yeah, that 147 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: was and it was it was scary. It was nerve 148 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: racking for me because it was kind of like one 149 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: of those situations where you've been in several of them 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: where you're in the backstage of a show and it's hectic. 151 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: So that was That was one that sticks out of 152 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: my mind because I remember there were people coming in 153 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: and out bringing coffee. Uh, there was music going on 154 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: in the background from the other artists performing. Plus we 155 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: were at a state fair, so it smelled like cows. 156 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: That was a little weird, you know. Interview. From what 157 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: I recall, it was pretty quick. It was more of 158 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: the hey, how's it going, how is it? It was 159 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: nowhere where I've kind of honed my skills to be 160 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: now Um, it wasn't bad, and you know what, it 161 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: makes me think, I need to find a picture of that. 162 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: If I could find a picture, I'm definitely gonna put 163 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: it on I G for Throwback Thursday. But that's the 164 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: one that sticks out in my mind as one of 165 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: my first big artists interviews. I find that I didn't 166 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: know you were a football player. Yeah, I was. I 167 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: grew up playing sports, And I think that that might 168 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: be kind of where my drive comes from to want 169 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: to like be here because me being like, I mean, 170 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: you're almost taller than me, dude, which is really scary. 171 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm like five eight on a good day, you know. Okay, 172 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: do you know how tall I am? Are you five 173 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: two on a good okay? All right, well, okay, that 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: is a I'm they Thank you for reassuring me that 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: that I'm still taller. Thank you. No, my goal is 176 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: to get to five three, and I know I'm not 177 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: getting there, and that's what's so sad. I heard that 178 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Vans has like a dope sneaker platform that you can rock, 179 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: so maybe that'll help. I think I'm going to look 180 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: up after we talk. But yeah, I played. I played 181 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: college sports, and that was my thing, and like growing 182 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: up and being the smaller guy and always really having 183 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: to scratch and claw to kind of prove myself into 184 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: really kind of earn whatever position it was on the 185 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: playing field. A lot of people who know me growing 186 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: up kind of understand that getting here to ze one 187 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: hundred is a lot kind of like my sporting career 188 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: is that I had to work my butt off to 189 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: really show that I could be that person who got 190 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: the chance to, you know, play in the game. So 191 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: I worked my butt off the same way in my 192 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: radio career like I did to you know, earn a 193 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: college scholarship and too you know, play sports as a 194 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: college athlete. Would you ever do UM interviews instead of 195 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: radio but just for sports? Oh? You know what I 196 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: thought about that. I like interviewing, um all types of 197 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean not only just artists, but athletes. I've had 198 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: some opportunities to do some stuff on some like red 199 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: carpets and events. For sports, it's a little bit more difficult, 200 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: UM because I mean to be quite to be quite honest, 201 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: when you get the chance to talk to athletes, UM, 202 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, you have to you have to relate and 203 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: steer the conversation in a whole different way that I'm 204 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: used to with with interviews talking to artists because as 205 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: we talked to celebrities who are in the music world, 206 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a lot about you know, the 207 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: creativity and maybe they're promoting an album or you know 208 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: something like that. Yes. Yeah, So when I talk sports, 209 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: I kind of have to put my mind into a 210 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: whole different type of a mentality to really get to 211 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: know and really get to uh pinpoint that thing that 212 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: the athlete is passionate about other than the sport, you know. 213 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: So I like to UM, I like to try to 214 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: challenge myself to try to find that in that would 215 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: be kind of cool to talk to like Lebron You 216 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Man, I just want to something crazy. 217 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Let's go forward week's episode. Kevin Love is my season finale? 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Are you just recorded it? Hold on a second, alright? 219 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: So see what I'm saying, Like it's it's to be 220 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: able to talk to like some another superstar in their 221 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: a world like that, like if you got the plug. 222 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Love is only like one degree separation 223 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: from Lebron, So put in a good word for dude. 224 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: He was the absolute sweetest. It's a great episode. Tune 225 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: in for next week. But I remember, I remember a 226 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: few years ago Radio Disney sent me on assignment to 227 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: cover the SPS and I foreign to me but my 228 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: dad and my brother and so my thing that I did, 229 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, how am I going to set myself apart? Here? 230 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I am like a fifteen year old girl, just like 231 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: what am I going to do? So what I did 232 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: it was scorching hot and at Disneyland, I was there 233 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: a few days before I got this thing where not 234 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: only sprayed water, but it was a fan. So they 235 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: all came to me, and that's how I did it. 236 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: That's clutch. The spray bottle uh fan thing is one 237 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: of the most underrated things at souvenir shops at Disneyland. 238 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's so worth it. It It got me 239 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: so many they wanted to come to me because it 240 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: was they were sweating out of their minds. And I 241 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: remember it was right after the the Kiki Do You 242 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Love Me? So I got to do that with Oh 243 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: my gosh, oh dude. All right, they came to me 244 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: because of it. But can I ask you how how 245 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: tall was everybody? And how short did you feel? Okay, 246 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: So at that time, I was probably five one and 247 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: I was wearing sandals because I knew i'd be, so 248 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't even wearing heels like when you've seen me, 249 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I've probably been wearing like little wedges or something. So 250 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: at least six five. Everybody they had to hold the 251 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: camera because when I did, it was like it was crazy. 252 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: But dude, that is hilarious. But it's it's cool. It's 253 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: cool when you're you're able to challenge yourself to do that, 254 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: so that's really dope. Challenge is always like good to overcome. 255 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm always terrified of live streams, but I've just 256 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: been like trying to do it because like you're talking 257 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: to a camera. But you know, I feel like when 258 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: don't you challenge, you only get better. Yeah, I mean 259 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: that you're you're under a right. I mean it's like, um, 260 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: it adds another tool in your toolbox. I say this 261 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot to my terms, is like that's now a 262 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: skill set that you have that you can whip out 263 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: of your toolbox when it's necessary. Because not all the 264 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: time are you gonna get the chance to sit in 265 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: studio with you know, Lizakchi. Not every time are you 266 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: going to get the opportunity to be right next to uh, 267 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, Julia Michaels. But there's gonna be those opportunities 268 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: like now, for instance, I mean, look at the world 269 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: that we're living in. If you hadn't honed those skills, 270 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: you hadn't practiced those abilities to maintain a conversation through 271 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: a digital space like this, um it would you would 272 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: you would be fumbling over yourself. But right now, I 273 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: mean you're already five steps ahead of a lot of 274 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: people because you were willing to take that challenge before 275 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: and and you practice and I mean that's just kind 276 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: of one of those things that not a lot of people, 277 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think in our position fully understand that to 278 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: have all those different tools. You're Swiss army knife dude. 279 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: You gotta have all those different things and be prepared 280 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: for anything, because anything can happen. I've always just looked 281 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: up to because you're an incredible interviewer and you've also 282 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: interviewed in the crazy places. You did it in a 283 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: ball pit, yes, you've you've wrapped gifts, You've done the 284 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: whole shebang. So which is what is that like doing interviews? 285 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: And how do you concentrate during an interview? Because I'm 286 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: looking for just advice here, how do you, you know, 287 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: talk to like Halsey in a ball pit still focus 288 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: on the interview. But let me tell you, Sammy J. 289 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: That was like a dream come true for I mean, 290 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: first off, for me to be in a just like 291 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: in a ball pit, curled up next to Halsey. I 292 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, of course your Instagram bio dude. 293 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean I was a guy on the ball pit. 294 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: That's just that was it. Yeah. Um, It's it's hard 295 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: to it's hard to really um and difficult to explain, 296 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: but you really just kind of gotta remember that that 297 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: person that you're next to is just as excited or 298 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: just as out of their element as you are, you know. 299 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: So that's that's one thing that you can both instantly 300 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: relate on from the very big any and that also 301 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: it puts you on an equal playing field to where 302 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm in a ball pit with freaking Halsey, one of 303 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: the biggest pop stars on the planet. But for this 304 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: next five minutes, we're just two goofy people in a 305 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: ball pit, and which is so much fun, which is 306 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: so there you go. That's it. So that's the That's 307 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: what leads and what guides the conversation is just that, 308 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and what comes from the conversation is just two people 309 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: who are having fun in a ball pit, no matter 310 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: who that other person is that's next to me. I 311 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: mean that same day that was at our I Heart 312 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Radio Music Award or not awards but festival, accuse me 313 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: years ago and uh, in that same day, I was 314 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: in the same ballpit with French Montana. Nobody when was 315 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: the last time the French Montana was in a ball pit? Yo? 316 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Never? But the thing was 317 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: is that we were just being too just goofy people, 318 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: just having a conversation in this absurd um. Yeah. So 319 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: so when when you're asking about like how's it to 320 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: be doing those things, it's I'm doing interviews with one 321 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: d holding puppies, you know what I mean. But it's 322 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: just like you really have to understand when they brought 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: those puppies. Oh my goodness, that was I think my 324 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: first I Heart Music festival. That's actually when Jordans introduced 325 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: me to Radio Disney, and I remember there was this 326 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I was just like holding like an absurd amount of 327 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: puppies and they could be adopted and I was like, Dad, 328 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: we need to get to know and I cried. It's 329 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: but the thing is is that the same feeling, the 330 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: same rush of emotions that you're having, the same thing 331 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: that whoever that superstar is that's next to you is having, 332 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and you equal there cool people forget that. I think 333 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: that they're human and that's what stuff you do exactly. 334 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: That's one thing I'll tell you that you since day 335 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: one have really understood and noticed and you know, for 336 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: someone And I don't like to get on the idea 337 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of like your age and all that kind of stuff. 338 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: I think it's really rad but I just think that 339 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: you're just like a dope journalists, interviewer, you know, broadcaster, 340 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: because I mean just being on being real with you, 341 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: because you don't have that same sense of fawning over 342 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: someone or losing your composure when you're put in a 343 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: situation as absurd as it might be, even just being 344 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: in a radio station studio, like you're hanging out at 345 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: Radio Disney. Oh you know how many rad people have 346 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: come through that studio before you will be there afterwards. 347 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: But you never lose your cool. And it's because you're 348 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: able to just really kind of just understand that you're 349 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: in this situation with this other really awesome person, but 350 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, as I keep on doing this, 351 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: you're both equals. And that's why people love talking with you. 352 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: And that's why I hope a lot of the artists 353 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: that I get to chat with like talking to me, 354 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: because it's like for that little bit of time where 355 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: they're running through crazy promo for a day or five 356 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: days or ten days in a row, there for fifteen 357 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: minutes of time, they're just hanging out with somebody who 358 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: was just like, you're just a regular person like I 359 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: am there you think, you know, as talented as people are. 360 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: They're just people, and that's what people forget, and then 361 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: you built them up on this pedestal, but then you 362 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: forget that they're human. They believe like we do, they 363 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: cry like we do. I think my favorite piece that 364 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: you've done is when you went to an arcade with 365 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Billie Eilish and you just you beat her, But yeah, 366 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I kicked not even you don't even know that. Oh 367 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: my god. We have so much footage of me just 368 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: like whooping her buttet like all the games. Dude, she 369 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: she was threatening, but she you just came out. Listen, 370 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I come of play. There's no there's no holding back, 371 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't care if you're 372 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: Billy Eilish or if you're you're my grandma. If we're 373 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: playing Dance Dance Revolution, you're going down in the in 374 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: the story. But that was like one of the coolest 375 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: things ever. And the other thing that's really rad about 376 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: that is a lot of people don't know this is 377 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: that every time I've seen her since then, we instantly connect. 378 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: And that's another thing that's really cool about some of 379 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: the situations I've been in is that I've been able 380 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: to have just some really just chill and genuine conversation 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: sations with a lot of these A less superstars first 382 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: off interview, you know what I mean. Yeah, And it's 383 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: just like we were going back in her mind when 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: she's even like, dude, next time I see you, I'm 385 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: we're going to the arcade, bro, I'm kicking. Like we 386 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: have that conversation, whether it be a thirty second convo 387 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: or we go on for ten minutes talking about it, 388 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: it's just something that we can relate on, and it's 389 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: really really cool and fun for me to see to 390 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: this day. Here's another one that a lot of people 391 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: people don't know. Excuse me, Katie Perry years ago. I'm 392 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: talking when she was just doing her Warped tour stuff, 393 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: when her first song like I Kissed a Girl came 394 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: out and really was smashed on pop radio. Um, she 395 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: came to a radio station I was working with. I 396 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: was working in Columbus, Ohio at w n C I, 397 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and we played Dance Dance Revolution when it was like 398 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: on the Xbox right. And I've spoken to her tons 399 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: of times after that, and every time that she sees me, 400 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: she's always like, dude, year, I still need to kick 401 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: your butt at that video game, and I'm like, that 402 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: was like ten years ago. And she was like, I'm 403 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: never going to forget that. I'm never gonna forget that. 404 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa, that's coming from Katie Perry, 405 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Like holy cow, you know, but but that's just the 406 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: whole part of humanizing like these people. But I will. 407 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: I can't always keep my cool and I have dann 408 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: girls because there who well in my head like of 409 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: course I've made a vision board, Okay, all right, and 410 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: it's like my dream interviews and there are three dream 411 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: interviews and I know those three. I will fan girl 412 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: even though I know they're human. Okay, Okay, Sell Obama, 413 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Linn Madmalmarana An Oprah. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you better that. 414 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean if if that's if you don't fan girl 415 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: over like Oprah, I wouldn't be able to talk you 416 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, exactly human. But she's like she's yeah, 417 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the same thing, the same thing with Michelle Obama, Like 418 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: I like, you come up with some of the dopest playlists, 419 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I might not be able to talk to you either. 420 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Lynn Manuel, are you met him? I have not the 421 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: closest I've come was and I'm surprised you hadn't talked 422 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to Jordan about this? Was I got to have no 423 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like, did he ever get you to see 424 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: Hamilton's while he was performing on Broway? Didn't see it 425 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: while he was in it. But when I found out 426 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: I have talked to Jordan's about Lynn any time I 427 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: can talk to him, because that's like what I want 428 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: to talk. And I was like, I don't tell me 429 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: about Lynne, Like I need to know my goal. Okay, 430 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm putting this on the univers season to Lynne, please 431 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: come on my podcast, Like, yeah, we got to come 432 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: on Lynn putting this out in the universe. I got 433 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: to go to Jordan's final performance when he was on 434 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Broadway and Hamilton's Hamilton's Hamilton's Lynn. I touched the ground 435 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: on stage and I was like, there you go. Take 436 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: me now, who do you fan? Girl? It's like, um, 437 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: let me see like I have before, Like, don't get 438 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm definitely a fan of I lost all 439 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: train of thought. And this was a while ago. Rihanna, 440 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: Um I got the chance to I interviewed her a 441 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: long time. It wasn't during an interview, this is actually 442 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: during a meet and greet at a concert when I 443 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: really started to become like yeah, Like Rihanna is like 444 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I took this picture with her where I 445 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: was smiling and she looked over and she said, boy, 446 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: you better smile bigger than that, and I almost like 447 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: almost melted. So I found girl of real' and that's 448 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: how I took it. Sammy. I was like, Okay, it 449 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: might be she kind of so I'm gonna I'm gonna 450 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: go I'm gonna take that one with me forever. Um, Rihanna. 451 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: I found girl over j Lo a couple of times too, 452 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: just because her presence. It's not only so like comforting 453 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: and calming, but it's also when you, you know, you 454 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: start to think about who she is in the game, 455 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you're just kind of like WHOA. So I was really 456 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: really smitten by her and someone else who I've had 457 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: to really check myself and I've had to control myself 458 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: around because I know that not only just because of 459 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: who she is in the game, but also just what 460 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: she means to so many people. Was Lady Gaga and 461 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: you were in her documentary for like a split interview, 462 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: I was I was so nervous during that whole interview 463 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: I remember I saw you on her documentary, and I 464 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: remembering I was like, is that you in the studio 465 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: just right over here. I was nervous that entire interview, 466 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: only because not only was it it's Lady Gaga, but 467 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: just because she is so intelligent and she is so brilliant, 468 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: and she is so heartfelt with everything that she says 469 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: and does that I just didn't want to screw it up, 470 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I was like, I 471 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: better not f this up, dude, because you were like 472 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: the coolest person on earth. The more I get to 473 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: know about you, the more I get to learn about you. 474 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: And um, there were a lot of people in the 475 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: studio at that time too, and I was just like, 476 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people watching me conduct this conversation. 477 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: She had a really heavy day that day, um, but 478 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, I still was just in awe, not only 479 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: just of being Gaga, but just how intelligent she is 480 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: and how um just warming she is. I Mean, it 481 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: just was like, do you still get nervous before interviews sometimes? 482 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think that like anxious good? Yeah, Yeah, 483 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: Like I really do. I got nervous before this, Like 484 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie to you. Yeah, I was like, 485 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really it's just like I love um. 486 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: I think the biggest reason why I get nervous is 487 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: because it's an opportunity for me to to learn from someone. 488 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: It's an opportunity for me. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. 489 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's like, I'm anxious. I'm excited 490 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: to whether it's talked to Harry Styles about his brand 491 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: new album. I'm like, I'm excited to get to talk 492 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: to him and learn what's going on in his head 493 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: at this point in time. You know, and been here, 494 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean I was. It took me ten minutes to 495 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: get set up before we connected here. I was like, 496 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to screw this up. I want to 497 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: hear your craziest interview story, oh, favorite interview story. And 498 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: I know you can't say names, but the most bizarre, 499 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: odd or uncomfortable interviews you Okay, I can't. I will 500 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: say names. I'll say names about Yeah, I'll drop I'll 501 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: drop names. Alright, So most bizarre, believe it or not, 502 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: for a lot of good reasons and bad. Maybe was 503 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande. I'm going to spill some tea here, Okay, 504 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: tell me, all right now, The reason why it was 505 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: really good was because she was and it's really unfair. 506 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people kind of shroud 507 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: who she is in this really weird odd I don't 508 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: want to say negativity all the time, but in this 509 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: weird kind to nobody really fully gives her the benefit 510 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: of just all the amounts of everybody watching her every move, 511 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: you know, and just how crazy that must be to 512 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: be that person on the receiving Could you imagine everybody 513 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: commenting or watching you when you just wanted to go 514 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: to CVS to grab like a toothbrush, you know. So 515 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: it was weird because of that, because I was already 516 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: kind of in my mind. What the other part that 517 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: made it really weird was that she came into the 518 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: studio at the time that she was dating Big Sean 519 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: with Big Sean all right. Now, Not only did she 520 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: come into the building while she was dating Big Sean 521 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: with Big Sean, but we were told not to ask 522 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: any questions about Big Sean. So the part that makes 523 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: it even weirder is that Big Sean was sitting in 524 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: the corner of the room while I'm interviewing Ariana grand 525 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: Day and not supposed to ask questions about Big Sean, 526 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: but he's in the corner of the room while I'm 527 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: sitting there. It's so it was so not only was 528 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: that like super difficult to not literally address the elephant 529 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: in the room. Um, I didn't. I did not, and 530 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you because I respected that was something that 531 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: she didn't want to talk to. But the fact of 532 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: the matter that this dude is like looking at me 533 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: while I'm talking to his girlfriend and everybody knows they're dating. 534 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Everybody knows what's going on. But then I'll tell you 535 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: where it was super cool that I maybe only shared 536 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: this with a few people is after the conversation, we 537 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: had a fun chat. I've got to find that interview somewhere. 538 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: And he came up to me afterwards that she was 539 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: walking through and you've been around our studio space. She 540 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: was in our kind of lobby area with her people leaving, 541 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: and he pulled me aside and he was like, look, bro, 542 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, that's like the coolest 543 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: thing ever. Like He's like, I've been with her for 544 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: the past you know, a couple of hours going and 545 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: doing all these radio promos and TV things or whatever. 546 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: And he was like, I really appreciate the way that 547 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: you made my girl feel comfortable. And I was like, 548 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it blew my mind because he genuinely came 549 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: inside to me and told me that. He was like, dude, yeah, 550 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: it was so nice, so genuine. So it ended with 551 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: like a positive. But it was the most awkward, weird 552 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: because it was all that anyone was talking about in 553 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: the trade magazines on the elephant in the room, and 554 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: you just couldn't d literally staring at me. So yeah, 555 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: so it was really cool. Yeah, so that was that 556 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: was probably the most weird situation. Yeah, you have this 557 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: essence about you were you just like make people feel comfortable, 558 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: like automatically. I remember I was petrified before the Jourdany interview. 559 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I was terrified, and then you just made everything so 560 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: common it's like, okay, it's all good, Well, thank you. 561 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I tried to That's what 562 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I try to do. I mean, I'm just listen, I'm 563 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: just trying to be the best me I can be, 564 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: which is which is just all I know how to do. 565 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: And I'm just yeah, it's all you can do. And 566 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I guess in that situation, blessed and 567 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: fortunate to be able to allow whoever it is that 568 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: sitting across from me feel that same way. And it's 569 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: just um, you know, shout out to mom and dad. 570 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Thank you Mom and Dad. I love you guys. So, 571 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, I'm assuming is one of your top ones 572 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: up there? What about like your craziest story, So the craziest, 573 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: like weirdest or like wacky. Um, I think we kind 574 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: of already touched on. I mean just some of the 575 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: situations say it again, yeah, yeah, but also like just 576 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: being like in the ball pits, you know, um, being 577 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: in arcades, like really kind of when I got to 578 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: do like a dance battle with baby Shark, Like those 579 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: things are like when I sit back and think about 580 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: those are like the craziest and weirdest things that I 581 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: know when my life stories like being told old people 582 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: would be like this dude had the most random like 583 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: encounters ever, Like every it's pretty popping. I can think 584 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: about it. I don't do that enough. But I've been 585 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: lucky enough to not really be in a situation where 586 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: there's been anything like too awkward, no negative space or energy, 587 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, there hasn't really been a time in my 588 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: career where somebody's coming has been in a bad like 589 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: that would be yeah, let's if we have some around 590 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: here there it is. I remember, I think it was 591 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: like a year. It was some time at night, and 592 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: I remember my mom and I were in the car 593 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: listening to the radio and I heard your voice. I 594 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: was like, Oh my god, that's Maxwell. Is that weird 595 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: for you, because it's weird so odd. I'm like, wait, 596 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: I know him. It's it's like when you see someone 597 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: that you like know that are like yeah, Like I 598 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: have a friend who's like on the Disney Channel and 599 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: I was just flipping channels and I was like, oh 600 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: my god, that's her. It's like like you know them 601 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: and your friends with them in real life, and it's 602 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: like you see for me for me, like a lot 603 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: of artists. I mean, I think you and I are 604 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: both in that same place where we're kind of lucky 605 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: to be able to call some of these really you know, 606 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: talented people friends. So that's like the weirdest thing to 607 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: me to literally be at home and I'll watch any 608 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: one of these TV shows from like the Masks singer 609 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: when Jojo see what takes off the t Rex hat 610 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, holy crap, dude, like I know her. 611 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: I get weirded out by it. I always I kind 612 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: of wonder that sometimes because you know, I'm here in 613 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: the studio and I chill out and I do my thing, 614 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: and there's intern tears sometimes. So I'm here by myself, 615 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: and it's kind of strange when I think about how 616 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: many people listen. Oh man, it's I mean, there's times 617 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: where I'll be talking, We'll be playing a new I'm 618 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: just looking at the computer screen here. We'll be playing 619 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: a new Arianna Grande song to say her name again, 620 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: And twenty minutes later, my voice is on her Instagram 621 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: story because she's listening to Z one recording it. And 622 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I think about it, like what like 623 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: like I'll remember the very first time that Nick Jonas jealous. 624 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: I remember he was in l A and we're one 625 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: of the few stations that are on the serious XM 626 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: app also, and he had his he was in this 627 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: like his fiat in Los Angeles. I'm playing this song, 628 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: he's recording it, and then like people are hitting me 629 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: up like do you know that you're on Nick Jonas 630 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you talking about? It's just 631 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: like the weirdest thing. It messes with your mind sometimes 632 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: because you're like, they're actually about it? Are people listening 633 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: like it's it's range, It's the oddest thing. It doesn't 634 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: make sense, not at all, not at all whatever. I 635 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: don't even know. But since you are a very talented 636 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: radio host, how do you judge? I'm always curious by 637 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: this because you've played so many hits. Can you tell 638 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: when something is going to be a hit? And if 639 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: so one of the qualities, Wow, you know what, that's 640 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: a tough one because I think it's just it's a 641 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: feeling you get, um and because I've been I've been 642 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: in music for a while and I've listened to a 643 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: lot of songs. As you said, some just feel right. 644 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I don't know if 645 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: it's a certain sound, if it's a tip. It's just 646 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: there's really no way to explain it. Because all of 647 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: these artists create records from their heart, you know, even 648 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: if it's just the most simplest pop record, I mean, 649 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: it's it's still a story that they're choosing to tell. 650 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: But sometimes one just jumps out that feels bigger than 651 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: the others, right, you know, Yeah, it's just a feeling 652 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: and I don't it just it just hits you sometimes. Um, 653 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: But you can't really tell that because there are other 654 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: songs that you would never think would become massive hits. 655 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: But then when you sit back and you think about 656 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: it a little bit, you realize why they did. But 657 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: you can't tell from the very beginning. Let's think, did 658 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: you ever think that, like Louis Capaldi, someone you loved, 659 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: was going to be on this record that everybody in 660 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: the world, you know, jams to. It's weird because everyone 661 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: has such a different taste in music, so you don't 662 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: know what's going to kind of stand exactly what it's 663 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: so odd? What for all the musicians listening here, and 664 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: what advice do you have for musicians who are want 665 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: to get something on the radio or I want to 666 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: write a song that they think would be popular. First off, 667 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: I would say, and I hear this from a lot 668 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: of big time songwriters along with art a lot of artists, 669 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: is you just have to write what's true to you, 670 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: what is really a feeling that you have inside And 671 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: it might sound like it's kind of selfish, but you 672 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: have like an awesome you know time chatting with Julia Michaels, 673 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: who is like one of the biggest and best songwriters 674 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: on Earth. She's brilliant. Have you heard the song Anxiety 675 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: heard I'd love Julia Michaels, Julia, Julia shout out to 676 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: shout out to you an you know. I the reason 677 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: I have this podcast is because I filmed the pilot 678 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: with her. Because of that interview. Yeah, you see what 679 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and and and I'll tell you and I 680 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: can imagine that a lot of it had to do 681 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: is that you were able and she was able to 682 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: really just be who she is, you know, and she 683 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: was able to speak her truth and and that comes 684 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: out through her music. So for like an upcoming artist, 685 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: I would say, and I hear this, like I said 686 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: from a lot of different people who have been in 687 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the game for a long time, is that you really 688 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: can't fake, you know, you really can't try to be 689 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: somebody else. Don't come into the game thinking, yeah, that 690 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 1: you want to be the next Justin Bieber, Like there's 691 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: only one Justin Bieber. Don't come into the game thinking, 692 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I gotta be the next Miley Cyrus 693 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: and create with that being on the front of your brain. Um. 694 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: You know that stuff happens for those artists over time 695 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: because they're they're tapping into true emotions that they have 696 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: they've got. You know, they're they're they're them. You know, 697 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: they're they're them. So I would say, just try to 698 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: be the best you that you can be, especially now 699 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: where music can be consumed so many different places that 700 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, fans want to come to you because of 701 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: what they feel that you are saying, um, and how 702 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: you're speaking your truth and how they can relate to 703 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: the story that you're sharing. So if you're trying to 704 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: be somebody that you're not, you're building a relationship right 705 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: through it. They can see right through it. You're building 706 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: a relationship that is built off of lies and nobody. 707 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Kind of like it's the same thing that goes with 708 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: interviews too. You can tell when something's you're your own 709 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: like no one else can be maxwell, you know, like 710 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that's exactly it. It's it's just be yourself. 711 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: Don't try to create a hit. Um. A lot of 712 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: people have said that they've said they've had their best 713 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: success when they just went into the studio and they 714 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: just wrote what felt right to them and that was 715 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: what came of the session. And next thing, you know, 716 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: you've got a song on See one hundred and you're 717 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: just like Lewis Capaldi was just like I was just 718 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: writing a song that you know, I was dealing with 719 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: loss at the time. That's how I felt. There you go, 720 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: he was being awesome and he's been open and we 721 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: all connected to it. So that's all you can do 722 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And you know you 723 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: had a podcast, is it you haven't been putting out episodes? No? Actually, 724 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: you know that's really funny that you have been, and 725 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: whether you know it or not, you have been kind 726 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: of like the fire under my butt to get back 727 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: into doing stuff like that. Like we I had we 728 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: myself and my friend Raven who was in who actually 729 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: is and I should still say is in Dallas. She 730 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: works her radiostation in Dallas, and we threw similar to 731 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: what we're doing here. We launched like two different seasons 732 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: of a podcast that we called Friends with Work Benefits 733 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: and it was just super cool. She and I. UH. 734 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: One issue with that was that the scheduling. She's a 735 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: midday personality on a bunch of radio stations and it's 736 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: really dir I'm at night, coming together people using stuff. 737 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: So that kind of we we had planned to do 738 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: more seasons, but then actually too, as all this kind 739 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: of crazy coronavirus stuff hit, it just became increasingly more difficult. 740 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: And then I started to do some stuff where, um, 741 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: I actually have recorded quite a few more episodes of 742 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: the podcast that I was doing by myself that I 743 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: call It's Okay to be Loud, I know. And the 744 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: people you got for that, those I've listened to them. 745 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: They're incredible. You had liked the Jonas Brothers, Yeah, super cool. 746 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: You had what the Chain Smokers. Yeah. So like so 747 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: what I started to do is really start to get 748 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: back into doing that. And it's been it's really been 749 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: watching like how driven and I'm I'm not lying to 750 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: you at all when I've been sitting back and I'm thinking, 751 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: Sammy Jay is kicking. But right now, like, if I 752 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: want to maintain this, if I want to continue to, 753 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, make sure that I'm doing the best that 754 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: I can do, I better start kicking. But also, um so, yeah, 755 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: so I started to, uh, I started to put together 756 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: some episodes together with my with my producers. We started 757 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: to reach out to some more artists. We started to 758 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: gather some interviews and uh, yeah, so I've got some. 759 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: I've got some in the can. We're dealing with the 760 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: design process now and the most stressful part because I, 761 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, for like my cover, it took me 762 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: forever to decide because it's like this is because my 763 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: podcast was the first thing that I ever like created 764 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: from my mind, like the world's gonna see it, and 765 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I was so particularly just I couldn't decide, dude, 766 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, it's been like the coolest thing. 767 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you again, like it really sparked with 768 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: me when I started hearing your voice on do you 769 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: know what? I never I heard that they were playing it. 770 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: People on my school were like, we heard you in 771 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: the radio context. I never heard it, all right, I 772 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: promise you. I was like, oh, all right, let me 773 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: get myself together. I was like, Maxwell, I'm starting to 774 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: hear Sammy j on your show right now, she's got 775 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: you played my ad for my podcast. I have to 776 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: try to find oh you know what. I can't touch 777 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: the computer now because mo Bounce is working from home, 778 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: and if I mess with it now, but yeah, like 779 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: I was going to play it for you now. Yes, 780 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, all right, timing to step the 781 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: game up, buddy, because if not, so you So thank 782 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: you for being my inspiration. Seriously, dude, you're my inspiration, 783 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's only fair to leave 784 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: this conversation you do. You often you have a stamp 785 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: of approval to see if something is Maxwill approved. So 786 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: I want to know is this podcast Max Will approve 787 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: a thousand a thousand percent. I'm jealous of the fact 788 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: that you got to hang out with my homie Jordan 789 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: Fisher again, the hats that you were drawing and coloring 790 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: with one of the people don't even realize how much 791 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: of an artist and how brilliant of an artist aside 792 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: from music that Julia Michaels is. You brought that out 793 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: in her, you know what I mean. But then last, 794 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: at least I'll tell you this, Sammy j just the 795 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: fact that you got to touch Liza Cochy all the 796 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: Maxwill Approved stamps everywhere every aware like you're kicking button 797 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: taking names. Dude, I'm increasingly proud of you. So hats 798 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: off to you for sure. Well, thank you so much. 799 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: That is I am serious crazy. It's been a crazy 800 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: four years. I remember the first time we met, you 801 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: were hosting. Well that's what I also want to ask you, 802 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: what is your biggest accomplishment like, because I remember during 803 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: the when we met, it was a Jason Drule concern. 804 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: You hosted it and it was like over Time Square 805 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: and You're like, this is what my goal has been. 806 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: So was that like your biggest career chief and or 807 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: has there been something else? I'll leave you with this, 808 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: my biggest accomplishment like has has yet to be achieved? Um, 809 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean there's still so much that I want to do. 810 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: That was cool, Those opportunities were awesome. All the amazing 811 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: stuff I've gotten to do with Nickelodeon, been seventy ft 812 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: tall on a giant Jumbo tron in Times Square was nothing. Um, 813 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: I would have ever dreamt when I started thinking, like 814 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: we started this conversation, I'm just a football kid, let 815 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: me try this out. I never imagine those things, and 816 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: those just you know, fueled the fire to want to 817 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: do more, to want to perform more if that's the case, 818 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: or just to want to be better. How can we 819 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: do that more? Consistently. How can I, you know, be 820 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: that guy to make each and every one of these 821 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: artists feel the most comfortable that they feel. So um, 822 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: I've gotten the opportunity to do a lot of really 823 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: cool stuff, not gonna lie, But my biggest accomplishment, I 824 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 1: think is it's still it's still on the other side 825 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: of it. You know. Oh what I'll tell you. And 826 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: I've told someone who you had the chance to talk to, 827 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: and I've had a conversation with him, Ryan Seacrest, you know, 828 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: you and I did. We've had these convos. Bro, when 829 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: you're tired, when you want to kick your feet up 830 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: and you want to relax a little bit, you already 831 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: know you've got somebody to step in and be all right, 832 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, So I've I've 833 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of put that type of an energy out there 834 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: and uh, and that's what I'm driving and striving towards. 835 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: He is a machine. I don't know how seeing him 836 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: in action is like the best thing to study whole 837 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: another ball game, right, I know, Listen, you're way you're 838 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: way ahead of the curve and getting there, you know, 839 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: And I'm doing my best to work towards that. Also 840 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: so I mean, all you continue to do is just 841 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: you know, work our tails off and together. I've been 842 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: told before that success is when you know, uh, preparation 843 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: and opportunity meet. So I'm trying to prepare for when 844 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: that opportunity comes, so that way, when I'm ready, that's 845 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: where success lies. So still a lot to come, not 846 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: only from me, but from you too, dude, like you're 847 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: doing it. Boo, you're doing it. Thank you guys so 848 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: much for listening to this week's episode. Maxwell, thank you 849 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: for coming on. Make sure you go follow Maxwell on Instagram. 850 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: It's at in Maxwell's house. He is a pretty popping Instagram. 851 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, and don't forget to follow me 852 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's Sammy Jay. That's I T S S 853 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,959 Speaker 1: A M M y E j A y e. And also, 854 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't already, you should totally subscribe to the 855 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: podcast and leave a common if you'd like next week's episode. 856 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna love. It's gonna be our season finale, 857 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: which is crazy to say, and it is with NBA 858 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: All Star and mental health advocate Kevin Love. Is such 859 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: a good episode. You're gonna love it. I love it 860 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: and I will see you next week. Bye.