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Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode two nineteen.
Speaker 2: We had a ton to do today and listen. I
Speaker 2: have not talked much about my trip to Japan. I
Speaker 2: don't know. There's conflicting opinions on if on these podcasts.
Speaker 2: You know I should dive into that at some level
Speaker 2: and demands I think needs some help with his headphones, guys.
Speaker 2: So I'll talk about this for a second. But some
Speaker 2: people would say, hey, people are opting to spend their
Speaker 2: time with you. They want to know about your life.
Speaker 2: Other people are like, now we're here to hear about sports.
Speaker 2: So I didn't really get into the details of it,
Speaker 2: but what I will tell you is this, I had
Speaker 2: no jet lag the entire time I was in Japan,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Man, this jet lag stuff everyone's
Speaker 2: always whining about is a bunch of nonsense. Since I
Speaker 2: got back from Japan, I have gotten up for the
Speaker 2: day at three am, three thirty am, four am, and
Speaker 2: today one thirty in the morning and just can't go back.
Speaker 2: I've been up since one thirty in the morning today
Speaker 2: and I just can't get back on like a regular schedule.
Speaker 2: So this is literally cup of coffee number seven. It's
Speaker 2: ten thirty in the morning, and I know it sounds like, Nick,
Speaker 2: if you trying to go back to sleep, why are
Speaker 2: you drinking coffee? Once I realized I can't go back
Speaker 2: to sleep, I'm still it doesn't matter. So that's that's
Speaker 2: what my week has been like. Well, I'm gonna force
Speaker 2: myself to stay up late one of these days try
Speaker 2: to get back on schedule. So the jet lag didn't
Speaker 2: hit me in Japan, it's hitting me here in the States.
Speaker 2: But we have a ton to do today. Here's what
Speaker 2: we are not doing on the show today. Mike Tyson's
Speaker 2: gonna fight Jake Paul. That's the dumbest thing ever. George
Speaker 2: Brett wants a Kaufman Stadium urinal. George Brett's kind of
Speaker 2: an odd dude, I'll be honest with you. And Joey
Speaker 2: Chestnut wins a Parrogi eating contest. I think the producers
Speaker 2: think I have far more interest in Joey Chestnut than
Speaker 2: I actually do, because a year and a half ago
Speaker 2: I gave an all time great right public defender for
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnut. It was, you know, it was really it
Speaker 2: was one of my more brilliant moments on the pod.
Speaker 2: But I don't really give a damn about Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 2: And he was mean to my friend DA when he
Speaker 2: had him in studio years ago, so I actually don't
Speaker 2: even really like that fella. But I just, you know,
Speaker 2: the public defender you have to defend, do you after
Speaker 2: you defend demons? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good, doing great?
Speaker 2: So have you have you waded into any of the
Speaker 2: internet discussion that I spurred with our semi viral ten
Speaker 2: minute clip about the Lebron Jordan stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've seen much less serious arguments on it,
Speaker 3: But yes, I definitely see it.
Speaker 2: So if I made for a moment. So our pal
Speaker 2: Bamani Jones sent out this tweet this morning and it
Speaker 2: was pretty good. He writes, I'll hand it to my
Speaker 2: buddy Nick. He gets y'all to still engage that goat debate.
Speaker 2: All his logic and theory works except for one thing.
Speaker 2: We were there, we saw it. We were there in
Speaker 2: ninety one, we were there in ninety six, and this
Speaker 2: is the big one. We were there in twenty ten
Speaker 2: and twenty eleven. It's over. And then he writes, and yes,
Speaker 2: I turned off, replies because if I don't want to
Speaker 2: hear what my intelligent good friend has to say about this,
Speaker 2: I sure as bleep don't want to hear what you
Speaker 2: guys think about it. And then Bomani argued with people
Speaker 2: about it for an hour, because no matter how much
Speaker 2: you say you don't want to engage in the goat debate,
Speaker 2: you just can't help yourself. And here's what I'll say,
Speaker 2: Because we have a lot of stuff to get into.
Speaker 2: The Lakers loss last night, the Warriors blew out the Bucks,
Speaker 2: the bills are falling apart at the seams, all of that,
Speaker 2: But I want to revisit, just for a moment demons.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, man, I won the argument. And you
Speaker 2: know why I won the argument because I once again,
Speaker 2: I once again have forced people to unknowingly concede ground.
Speaker 2: To me, this has been a multi year effort and
Speaker 2: every and I don't do it that often, but every
Speaker 2: time I engage, I attack a very specific flank of
Speaker 2: the Jordans Zelotz army and I weaken it enough to
Speaker 2: where they have to send troops that way, which weakens
Speaker 2: the overall front that they have built up over twenty
Speaker 2: five years. So this time I said, you know what,
Speaker 2: everybody just concedes the whole peak argument. So I am
Speaker 2: going to, like a surgeon, attack with precision that And
Speaker 2: so the entirety of this week, people have not actually
Speaker 2: been debating who's the goat. They've only been debating who
Speaker 2: had the higher peak. Which the reason I say I
Speaker 2: won is because now three months from now, six months
Speaker 2: from now, anytime, is anyone going to be able to
Speaker 2: say Jordan had the higher peak. It's not debatable, uh yetkinness,
Speaker 2: you guys spend a lot of time debating it. It's
Speaker 2: by definition debatable because you're debating it, So that's debatable,
Speaker 2: you know, what. We didn't talk anything about longevity because
Speaker 2: that is, by the definition not debatable. So now the whole,
Speaker 2: the whole idea one of the one of their last
Speaker 2: bastions of you know, unencroached upon ground, one of their
Speaker 2: last fronts that they could just you know, have a
Speaker 2: few centuries out they didn't have to worry about, they
Speaker 2: didn't have to spend a lot of resources on. They
Speaker 2: have spent all week. Oh they they they've been calling
Speaker 2: in resources, send the memes.
Speaker 3: Send the.
Speaker 2: Exactly. No, they don't none of it. And you know what,
Speaker 2: you servely haven't heard a lot of talk about twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Haven't heard a lot of talk about swept in the No, no, no,
Speaker 2: because that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about peaks.
Speaker 2: And you want to say it's not a debate, but
Speaker 2: you've spent three days debating it, so it is a debate.
Speaker 2: If I came on this show and I said, you
Speaker 2: know what, I want to talk Mahomes v. Brady, and
Speaker 2: I think Mahomes is the better winner, just the better winner,
Speaker 2: guess what, it wouldn't cause three days of debate because
Speaker 2: that's not debatable at the moment. No, Brady's won seven
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. He beat him head dead in the plaffs.
Speaker 2: It's not debatable, but I said, I said, let's talk peak.
Speaker 2: Something you guys say is not debatable, and now you've
Speaker 2: spent all week debating it. By definition, that is now debatable.
Speaker 2: So take that little piece of argument out of your
Speaker 2: arsenal at it to mine, and you look at the
Speaker 2: scales and all of a sudden, you're like Jesus christ Man,
Speaker 2: we're getting outflanked all over the place. So the Overton
Speaker 2: window has moved once again on the Lebron Jordan debate,
Speaker 2: thanks to yours truly and the number of people who
Speaker 2: are angriest about this that have you know, either some
Speaker 2: type of if you whenever you see the people angriest
Speaker 2: about about the argument, a nice fun thing you can
Speaker 2: do on Twitter is go to their profile and click
Speaker 2: media and see how many tweets you have to scroll
Speaker 2: down before you see a photoshop Lebron James crying tweet
Speaker 2: or some infographic with wildly incorrect information. And you know,
Speaker 2: people are getting nervous, and so yeah, so my work
Speaker 2: here is done. You know, in three months, four months,
Speaker 2: five months, we might re engage once again and so
Speaker 2: I feel great about it. Now to today's show demands,
Speaker 2: what are we starting with?
Speaker 3: I'm glad you feeling great about it, Pops. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so we were originally going to talk about NBA five
Speaker 3: I hear myself in here. We're going to talk about
Speaker 3: an NBA Finals preview and nugget Celtic tonight. But you
Speaker 3: wanted to clear that out to talk about Buffalo clearing
Speaker 3: cap space. So they just cleared I did. They cleared
Speaker 3: thirty five million in cap space by cutting a bunch
Speaker 3: of players and three of their starters and when they're safeties,
Speaker 3: Jordan Poyer, do you think the Bills are throwing in
Speaker 3: the towel or do you think they're getting ready to
Speaker 3: make a big move.
Speaker 2: No, there's no big move they can make. What they're
Speaker 2: doing is they are paying the bill that has come due.
Speaker 2: And folks can say all they want and people think
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this because I want to
Speaker 2: take shots at Buffalo. That's not actually it. That's just
Speaker 2: an added bonus. I want to talk about this because
Speaker 2: my colleagues in the media have done a poor job,
Speaker 2: not all, but some on explaining what the salary cap is,
Speaker 2: and folks think it's fake. Folks think, oh, you can
Speaker 2: always move money around, you can always you know, restructure,
Speaker 2: And that is true to a degree. But eventually all
Speaker 2: of these bills come due, no pun intended, every dollar,
Speaker 2: every single dollar that is paid to a football player
Speaker 2: by the team, at some point shows up on some
Speaker 2: year's cap table. And because of that, the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: had to move on from both of their safeties Tredavious White,
Speaker 2: They had to move on from players they would otherwise
Speaker 2: like to keep because they got a little over zealous
Speaker 2: a couple years ago and signed Von Miller to an
Speaker 2: absurd contract because they said, you know what, screw We're
Speaker 2: going all in. We're going for it right now. And
Speaker 2: what they have to show for it is nothing. What
Speaker 2: they have to show for it is some really exciting
Speaker 2: playoff losses. That's it. And the Denver Broncos, you know what,
Speaker 2: now's our chance. We're gonna go get Russell Wilson. We're
Speaker 2: gonna make a significant move. We're gonna sign Randy Gregory,
Speaker 2: We're gonna sign Frank Clark, gonna do all these things. Oh,
Speaker 2: Justin Simmons, the second best player on our team in
Speaker 2: the prime of his career three straight all pros. We
Speaker 2: have to cut you because that bill came due. And
Speaker 2: so there is whenever you see a team go you know, start,
Speaker 2: Whenever you see a team and make a signing and
Speaker 2: you say, oh my god, how do they have the
Speaker 2: money for that? And you turn on TV and they're like, man,
Speaker 2: GMx at it again. He's a real cap magician. What
Speaker 2: that means is he's borrowing from future years and that
Speaker 2: can work. The Bucks did it when Brady was there.
Speaker 2: They won a championship. The Rams did it right when
Speaker 2: they got Stafford. They won a championship. They then had
Speaker 2: some lean times while they cleaned it up. The problem
Speaker 2: is if you do it and don't win a championship
Speaker 2: the next year, you don't want to admit, ah, we
Speaker 2: didn't quite get it all right. Let's borrow from another
Speaker 2: Let's we were borrowing from next year. Now, let's borrow
Speaker 2: more from two years down the road. And eventually it's like, guys,
Speaker 2: we have to be CAP compliant by March thirteenth. We
Speaker 2: are forty million over without adding our draft class, without
Speaker 2: adding free agents. What do we do? And the answer
Speaker 2: is cut players you'd otherwise like to keep and that's
Speaker 2: a tough spot to be in if you got nothing
Speaker 2: to show for it as an added bonus. And this
Speaker 2: is what with respect to the producers, they didn't understand
Speaker 2: was the real this is where it is about Buffalo.
Speaker 2: The real reason seeing the name tra Davious White was
Speaker 2: cut from the Bills really got my heart palpitating. Is
Speaker 2: you know how the Chiefs had the twenty seventh pick
Speaker 2: and they saw Patrick Mahomes and they desperately wanted them,
Speaker 2: and so they traded that pick to Buffalo along with
Speaker 2: another first round pick, another draft capital to go get
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in what is the greatest trade in NFL history.
Speaker 2: And the flip side, you know, kind of the worst
Speaker 2: trade in NFL history for Buffalo because they had Tyrod
Speaker 2: Taylor's their quarterback and Nathan Peterman and they you know,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to draft Patrick Mahomes, the blue chip
Speaker 2: player the Bills got in that trade and he guesses
Speaker 2: who it was. Yeah, they got four players that they
Speaker 2: drafted with those picks the Chiefs traded to him Tradeavious
Speaker 2: White was the last remaining Bill and now he's gone.
Speaker 2: And so in a trade seven years.
Speaker 3: Ago, you know they can finally start fresh.
Speaker 2: Maybe none of that start fresh? Okay, you know that
Speaker 2: is that is a kind way to look at it.
Speaker 2: Another way to look at it is this seven years ago,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Bills made a trade. Since they
Speaker 2: made that trade, the Chiefs have won three Super Bowls,
Speaker 2: been to four, beating the Bills in the playoffs three times.
Speaker 2: The Bills have done nothing. What the Chiefs have left
Speaker 2: from that trade is the most talented player in NFL history.
Speaker 2: And when the Bills have left from that trade is
Speaker 2: sixteen million dollars of dead cap space.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's the Babe Ruth trade because at
Speaker 2: least the Red Sox got the money to, you know,
Speaker 2: put on that Broadway show that the owner was trying
Speaker 2: to put on. It's a little worse, all right, what's next?
Speaker 2: That is true? Look it up. Demands traded Babe Ruth
Speaker 2: because the owner wanted to put on a play, needed
Speaker 2: some pack traded in the Yankees. Yeah, look it up.
Speaker 2: The truth.
Speaker 3: So you put the Lakers yesterday on the show in
Speaker 3: the terrifying for a series or two category, which means
Speaker 3: that they're basically cooked in Cleveland and Miami. Lebron always
Speaker 3: knew the best time to leave with the Lakers. It
Speaker 3: kind of seems like he's trying to stick it out.
Speaker 3: Do you think it'd be better if they just lost
Speaker 3: to make it easier for Lebron, or like winning kind
Speaker 3: of confuse him and make him stay. What do you
Speaker 3: think Lebron should?
Speaker 2: I got you so I know what I want him
Speaker 2: to do, and I think I know what he's going
Speaker 2: to do. But before I do that, let me go
Speaker 2: micro for a moment, because late last night, the Lakers
Speaker 2: lost once again to the Sacramento Kings. Truly baffling performance
Speaker 2: by all parties, except for, of course, Lebron, who had
Speaker 2: thirty one points thirteen assists on ten of sixteen from
Speaker 2: the field. He was excellent, But eight ad does not
Speaker 2: do well with these European sinners. Is Sabonis? I think
Speaker 2: it's nine DeMont de Sabonis. I think it's nine to
Speaker 2: zero in his career against Anthony Davis. You guys can
Speaker 2: fact check me on that. I believe that to be true,
Speaker 2: and that Lakers have lost nine straight to Jokic. These
Speaker 2: these you know, burlier, more physical, but also great passing sinners,
Speaker 2: and it's maybe it's one of the reasons they traditionally
Speaker 2: didn't want to play center. The Lakers, of course didn't
Speaker 2: don't have an actual backup center on the roster NBA caliber.
Speaker 2: I don't care what say Jackson Aeses, So that's a problem. Also,
Speaker 2: if you watched the Lakers Kings game last night, which
Speaker 2: last night I did not watch because, as I said,
Speaker 2: I might, I've had this wild jet leg. I felt
Speaker 2: sleep at nine o'clock last night. But luckily when you
Speaker 2: wake up at one point thirty in the morning, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got plenty of time today to rewatch it this morning.
Speaker 2: What you saw was the Lakers got out to a
Speaker 2: great start, and this is a really important game because
Speaker 2: they're trying to catch the Kings, and the Kings are
Speaker 2: now three and zero against him this year, so if
Speaker 2: there's a if they finished with the same record, the
Speaker 2: Kings will have Tibergers. This is a bad loss. Lakers
Speaker 2: got out to a great start. The starters were cooking
Speaker 2: the Kings for the first six minutes of the game.
Speaker 2: They were up seventeen points early. The starters started and
Speaker 2: played the first six minutes or so together. That lineup
Speaker 2: the starting five the rest of the game played zero
Speaker 2: minutes together. I mean that listen. Sometimes Darvin Ham gets
Speaker 2: over criticized and sometimes Man a week ago, Cam Reddish
Speaker 2: was in your closing lineup against Denver yesterday D and
Speaker 2: B coaches decision. I mean it is it is some
Speaker 2: tough sledding with some of these Darvin Ham coaching decisions,
Speaker 2: and so all of that, you know, is what the
Speaker 2: Lakers are. Lebron is still great, ad He's you know,
Speaker 2: he's had trouble against the Kings and the Nuggets, but
Speaker 2: he's been excellent this year. I you know, way too
Speaker 2: much Torriyan prints in the as diet in my opinion,
Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do? So to get to
Speaker 2: your question, and the producers confirmed it, So bonus nine
Speaker 2: to zero against Anthony Davis's not great. Lebron's not gonna
Speaker 2: leave it bums me out. I wish he would, I
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: I don't think Bronnie is going to go to the
Speaker 2: Pros next year, and that the Bronnie stuff is a
Speaker 2: whole different discussion, but I don't really want to have
Speaker 2: it right now. I think Bronni's gonna go back to USC.
Speaker 2: I think Lebron wants to be there. I think his
Speaker 2: wife loves LA. I think his businesses love LA. I
Speaker 2: think his family he loves l A. I Bryce is
Speaker 2: playing high school ball. I don't think he wants to.
Speaker 3: Leave much more of the go debate. Does it silence
Speaker 3: if Lebron wins one more ring?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Here's the thing? I I think there are many people
Speaker 2: that are entrenched and we'll just say, okay, so now
Speaker 2: he's at six, he is at five, but Michael's at six.
Speaker 2: Obviously it would help, But I I don't think I.
Speaker 2: I think it is going to be very, very difficult.
Speaker 2: Lebron right now is at best the fifth best player
Speaker 2: in the league and at worst the tenth best player
Speaker 2: in the league. That sounds great. That guy doesn't typically
Speaker 2: win the title as the as a team's best player.
Speaker 2: That's Jason Tatum's hurdle. Jason Tatum is at best the
Speaker 2: fifth best player in the league and at worst the
Speaker 2: eighth best player in the league. It sounds great except
Speaker 2: for when you realize usually the the title goes to
Speaker 2: one of the three best players in the league. Just
Speaker 2: go down the list of champions over everyone's lifetime ever
Speaker 2: and you can find like three instances in the last
Speaker 2: honestly forty years where that wasn't the case. So it's
Speaker 2: just so. The reason I say that is if Lebron
Speaker 2: were to win a title as the second best guy
Speaker 2: on someone else's team, I don't think it probably moves
Speaker 2: the goat debate that much. Hell, folks, he won a
Speaker 2: title in resounding fashion as the best player on his
Speaker 2: own team, and folks said that one didn't count because
Speaker 2: it was in Orlando at Disney World. Like the idea
Speaker 2: like there, I mean, there's the idea that if he
Speaker 2: wins the title is a second option, folks and be like, well,
Speaker 2: that does it, and so could he. What's so frustrating
Speaker 2: to me is I still think in any given series
Speaker 2: he can turn up and play like one of those
Speaker 2: three best players in the world. But I don't think
Speaker 2: he can do it for two months, and the Lakers
Speaker 2: don't have the supporting cast. So I just think he
Speaker 2: wants to stay in LA. For me, as a fan,
Speaker 2: the best thing that could happen for me is the
Speaker 2: Lakers stab him in the back, be like we don't
Speaker 2: want you anymore, you have to leave. But they're not
Speaker 2: gonna do that, and so I just think the Lakers
Speaker 2: are I mean, they're just eh, They're just fine and
Speaker 2: it's a bummer. All right.
Speaker 3: Next, all right, so you had a very cool, calm
Speaker 3: and collected response on TV with your co host saying
Speaker 3: that Jason Tatum should win the MVP. I think he
Speaker 3: might have walked off. But so it kind of seems
Speaker 3: kind of seems like you're trying to say that Joki
Speaker 3: should be MVP without saying that he should be it
Speaker 3: this so right now is the MVP.
Speaker 2: Right now, Jokic is the m v P. I think no. Yeah,
Speaker 2: with the confirmation, I can develop new opinions also. But
Speaker 2: so a couple things. I was apoplectic at Kevin Wilde's
Speaker 2: about the Tatum stuff because the entirety of his argument
Speaker 2: was the Celtics have the best record, Tatum is their
Speaker 2: best player, and that is just that is not what
Speaker 2: the league MVP is supposed to be. And now it
Speaker 2: very often is the league MVP is on the best team.
Speaker 2: I get that, But the idea that we have to
Speaker 2: Wild's who I adore. Everybody knows how much I love Wilds,
Speaker 2: So I can say this, Wild's trying to turn almost
Speaker 2: any type of award or all time ranking or goat
Speaker 2: discussion or MVP discussion or anything into some dumb man's
Speaker 2: version of QB wins is maddening. It's just then, then
Speaker 2: why have any awards. Just wait until the year's over,
Speaker 2: and whoever wins the championship, that guy's the coach of
Speaker 2: the Year. Their GM's the GM of the Year, their
Speaker 2: best players, the MVP, their first guy off the bench
Speaker 2: is the sixth man, their best rookies, Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: He wants to He doesn't want Wimby to win Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year because the Spurs don't have enough wins.
Speaker 2: It's the Rookie of the Year award. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: the Chets thunder pretty good. I'm like, give me I
Speaker 2: just and so that's what made me walk off the set.
Speaker 2: And I shouldn't talk about Wilds when he's not here
Speaker 2: to defend himself. But when he is around to defend himself,
Speaker 2: he doesn't do a good job on this. He's just like, ah,
Speaker 2: goals to win, Like man, I know that, that's why
Speaker 2: they give a team championship trophy, but that is not
Speaker 2: the league MVP. So that's what frustrated me. It's not
Speaker 2: that I'm naturally have an allergy to Yo get or
Speaker 2: to Tatum being league MVP. The reason Jason Tatum isn't
Speaker 2: the league VP is because Jason Tatum's not the league VP.
Speaker 2: The reason Tatum's not the league MVP is because nobody
Speaker 2: thinks he's more valuable or better than Yo get your Giannis. Nobody,
Speaker 2: literally nobody.
Speaker 3: Probably just like the same type of thing that you
Speaker 3: have with height and quarterbacks, probably just because those guys
Speaker 3: are bigger. Jason Tatum is like three or four inches taller.
Speaker 2: Maybe right now, are you saying if Jason Tatum were taller,
Speaker 2: he might be better. Or if Jason Tatum were taller
Speaker 2: and the exact same player, I would like him more.
Speaker 2: Which are you.
Speaker 3: Saying that one? The second one? You'd like him more
Speaker 3: if you were that?
Speaker 2: No, that is Tatum is Lebron's height. He No, you
Speaker 2: can be that. Silue Steph is six ' three. Steph's
Speaker 2: your side.
Speaker 3: If the candidates you're saying should be over him, we're
Speaker 3: like four or five inches taller than him, So I'm
Speaker 3: just going off.
Speaker 2: But they're better than him. They're also better than him,
Speaker 2: And also Shae has a better argument than Tatum, and
Speaker 2: Shay is way shorter than.
Speaker 3: Him the Celtics. No, you're gonna drive me.
Speaker 2: It's not It is not a Again, is there a
Speaker 2: minimum threshold of winning one's team must do to be
Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation? Absolutely well, Nick, you contradict yourself. No,
Speaker 2: of course I didn't. Because in basketball, in a five
Speaker 2: on five sport, when you play both ends, if you
Speaker 2: are truly an MVP candidate, your team's gotta win, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously more than it loses, and actually has to win
Speaker 2: at a high high light. That's why Luca, despite being
Speaker 2: thirty five, nine and nine, is not right now as
Speaker 2: serious candidate because the team's not good enough. Yes, there's
Speaker 2: a minimum level of winning one's team must do in
Speaker 2: order to demonstrate your value, But the idea that the
Speaker 2: pool of candidates must only be players on the team
Speaker 2: with the best record is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't and I didn't do a good job
Speaker 2: explaining on the I got so angry I was. I
Speaker 2: couldn't say it. But we're about to have the oscars
Speaker 2: right the way some of these folks want to do
Speaker 2: League MVP, it would just be this what's best picture? Okay?
Speaker 2: Who was the best actor in that that's the best actor.
Speaker 2: Who's the best supporting actor. That's your best supporting actor.
Speaker 2: Who's the best actress. That's that. It'd be like, well, no,
Speaker 2: but somebody acted better in a different movie that didn't
Speaker 2: win Best Picture. Oh, what's the goal? Is the goal
Speaker 2: to make the best movie possible. If that's the goal,
Speaker 2: then what are we talking about. I mean, it's ridiculous,
Speaker 2: it's just dumb and so and again, I want to
Speaker 2: be clear, because this isn't just wilds and Wild isn't
Speaker 2: here to defend himself. I am not calling Wild's dumb.
Speaker 2: Wild is not dumb. Wild's MVP argument is the argument
Speaker 2: a dumb person would make. That's just a coincidence. All right,
Speaker 2: let's move on. Oh you know what's great about this?
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me say one other thing. What's great
Speaker 2: about this is in the All right, let me paint
Speaker 2: the picture of the first thing's first offices. So on
Speaker 2: the floor where we work. We're not where the show
Speaker 2: is recorded, but where we do all our pre show work.
Speaker 2: You come up the stairs and there's a long, thin hallway,
Speaker 2: and at the end of the hallway is a big
Speaker 2: conference room with a bank of TVs. In that conference
Speaker 2: room is where all the producers work, where Dusty is
Speaker 2: who watches the show. In Dusty every time the pod
Speaker 2: is on, turns it on and plays it volume up.
Speaker 2: Wilds's office is like halfway down the hall, and wild
Speaker 2: has only ever seen the podcast by accident. He's never
Speaker 2: watched it except for when he walks into the conference
Speaker 2: room and says something and it's on. So right now,
Speaker 2: at first things first, what I think is happening is
Speaker 2: Wild's is likely kind of somewhat hearing his name a lot,
Speaker 2: and probably somewhat curious what's being said, but doesn't want
Speaker 2: to actually engage. And the producers in the room, my guess,
Speaker 2: are a stifling a little laughter as to not insult Wilds,
Speaker 2: because again I am not Wilds is a very smart
Speaker 2: guy and the key to the show, and I'm incredibly
Speaker 2: grateful for his to work with him and for his friendship,
Speaker 2: and I'm not calling him dumb. He just makes a
Speaker 2: lot of the same arguments dumb people make and they
Speaker 2: frustrate me because he's better than that. And so that's
Speaker 2: all okay, all right, now, let's move on, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, all right, Well, speaking to Luca, he's having a
Speaker 3: really good season having Kyrie are obviously gelling together, I
Speaker 3: guess now, obviously because they've lost five of their last
Speaker 3: six games and they're eighth in the West. So if
Speaker 3: the MAVs don't turn it around, do you think it's
Speaker 3: possible that Luca ends up calling it splits with the Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's everyone's biggest concern, and that's why
Speaker 2: they made the Kyrie trade, was to be like, no, Luca,
Speaker 2: we're serious. But that's what I tell you guys the
Speaker 2: day after they made the Kyrie trade. When Luca eventually
Speaker 2: leaves Dallas, this will be one of the primary reasons
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: What would be one of the primary reasons. What would
Speaker 3: be one of the primary reasons.
Speaker 2: Them trading for Kyrie?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I thought the way that you I remember
Speaker 3: you speaking of the Kyrie thing, it's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: you just got to sit and stand by until something
Speaker 3: else happens. But it's not. Do you think Kyrie is
Speaker 3: the problem here?
Speaker 2: No, So that's a good point. Kyrie has been on
Speaker 2: great behavior and has conducted himself well. But this is
Speaker 2: one of the other reasons I was so against the trade,
Speaker 2: even without Kyrie, even with him on his best behavior.
Speaker 2: They used all their last remaining assets to get somebody
Speaker 2: who is not at all what they need. If you
Speaker 2: have Luca, you don't need a point. One goal is
Speaker 2: not have another, you know, scorer that needs the ball
Speaker 2: in his hands. That And so you make a good point.
Speaker 2: Kyrie hasn't done anything wrong, and Kyrie's having a great
Speaker 2: season deserves credit for that, but it just doesn't fit.
Speaker 2: And what we've also know about Kyrie, and I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to take shots here, is he's He's never contributed
Speaker 2: to winning in any environment except for the three years
Speaker 2: he played with Lebron before Lebron got there. They didn't
Speaker 2: contribute to winning. With Brooklyn, he didn't, and here he's not.
Speaker 2: So I just thought, so, even if you know everything
Speaker 2: works out with Kyrie, which it has, the winning's not
Speaker 2: gonna come. And I think Luca's gonna want to win.
Speaker 2: So Luca has two years left on his contract, right
Speaker 2: I I'd start getting nervous after this year.
Speaker 3: He has two years.
Speaker 2: If I were Dallas, I'd start getting nervous because now
Speaker 2: Luca's obviously got to own some of this and take
Speaker 2: some accountability for this. He needs to be better on
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, all these things, but
Speaker 2: Luca is by any metric one of the at worst
Speaker 2: five best players in the league. In my opinion, he's
Speaker 2: the third best player in the league, and there's no
Speaker 2: reason for the team to be for the second straight
Speaker 2: year as mediocre as it's been. So yeah, i'd be
Speaker 2: nervous if I were Dallas. All right, that finals preview.
Speaker 2: They wanted to start the show with, we'll do that. Oh,
Speaker 2: go ahead, What were you about to say?
Speaker 3: You were? Yeah, so it seems like you were right
Speaker 3: about what's going on on the third floor. Back to
Speaker 3: the base.
Speaker 2: Oh, Dusty, Dusty chimed in, appreciate that, dust all right,
Speaker 2: Finals preview? Next, what's right? All right? Welcome back in.
Speaker 2: We'll dry with the great episode two nineteen. All right, demons,
Speaker 2: let's get to what should be one of the best
Speaker 2: games of the NBA season night.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yes, So the defending champs are playing the
Speaker 3: best team in the NBA as of now, in the Celtics,
Speaker 3: and the Celtics are going to bounce back after they
Speaker 3: blew a lead to the Cleveland on Tuesday. Do you
Speaker 3: think this is a finals preview or what are we
Speaker 3: watching it. What are we watching for?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean Vegas thinks it's a finals preview,
Speaker 2: and I think Denver is incredibly likely to end up
Speaker 2: in the finals on the western side of the bracket.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just thought of this because I
Speaker 2: was trying to think, is there a scenario where you
Speaker 2: could get to go to a finals game? So I'll
Speaker 2: just make this commitment here. If the either LA team
Speaker 2: makes it and Boston makes it, I'll get you some
Speaker 2: bad tickets to one of the games so you can, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: the let's do it the the Clippers, the Clippers are
Speaker 2: your better bet to end up making the finals than
Speaker 2: the Lakers are. But if either one of her playing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think? I was saying, Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: how else could we do it? How else can they
Speaker 2: be playing the Celtics? I was saying, because you're a
Speaker 2: Celtics fan. I was saying, if they and there's you
Speaker 2: live in l.
Speaker 3: As the Clippers going to face up with the Nuggets,
Speaker 3: and how are the Lakers gonna We saw how that
Speaker 3: went last year.
Speaker 2: No, right, well, listen, I was they to when I
Speaker 2: made this multi thousand dollars commitment out of nowhere. That
Speaker 2: is I'm probably not gonna have to come through on it,
Speaker 2: but I'm not not saying if it, I'll fly you
Speaker 2: to Denver. I mean they're they're more likely to make it,
Speaker 2: But if it were to happen, I did this for
Speaker 2: uh Man. Sometimes I get myself in trouble with this
Speaker 2: one of them, and then I'll do the finals preview thing.
Speaker 2: I was very confident that the Knicks were totally cooked
Speaker 2: last year. Let me see what game it was. Hold on.
Speaker 2: I want to get this right. So we have on
Speaker 2: the TV show.
Speaker 3: A.
Speaker 2: When I say die hard, I mean the most die
Speaker 2: hard sports fan I've ever met. I've ever met under
Speaker 2: any circumstances, for any team.
Speaker 3: Uh it's huge.
Speaker 2: This this when I so this gid we talked about
Speaker 2: him on the show some not this kid's name Ramsey.
Speaker 2: He's a great producer. I shouldn't say kid, but I
Speaker 2: think he's your your age so kid to me and
Speaker 2: he when I say loves the Knicks, I mean I
Speaker 2: think and he's such a nice guy, gets angry when
Speaker 2: like I snub one of the Knicks from the the
Speaker 2: NBA Medals. He used to sit next to me in
Speaker 2: the office. He still sometimes does, and I glance over
Speaker 2: and he's just watching like Obie topping highlights from when
Speaker 2: he was on the team. I mean a true die hard,
Speaker 2: like a legitimate true die hard. And I thought the
Speaker 2: Knicks were cooked and I don't even know what it. No,
Speaker 2: it definitely was the playoffs, so I'm I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter regardless. I said kind of flippantly
Speaker 2: that if the Knicks were in a position to where
Speaker 2: they had a big playoff home game, not like you
Speaker 2: know they're gonna get swept or something, a big playoff
Speaker 2: home game, I was like, Ramsey, I'll buy you a ticket,
Speaker 2: and I was being dead serious, but I also did
Speaker 2: not think it was going to happen. And then the
Speaker 2: Knicks split the first two in Cleveland, and then they
Speaker 2: had a game three at the Garden. I think that's
Speaker 2: what it was. Whatever it is, I know the Knicks one.
Speaker 2: I know I bought the ticket, and I know Ramsey
Speaker 2: said it was the greatest sporting of it he'd ever
Speaker 2: been to in his life. But that was an example,
Speaker 2: so I felt good about it. It was it was
Speaker 2: a cool thing, but also I yeah, exactly right. But
Speaker 2: it was also similar to this, which is when I
Speaker 2: said it. I didn't actually think that they gonna get there,
Speaker 2: and then they got there, so hey, maybe maybe the
Speaker 2: Celtics will win the East and one of the LA
Speaker 2: teams will be in the finals. We'll get to go
Speaker 2: to it. But now to the topic. I here's my
Speaker 2: concern about Boston. They suck at the end of close games,
Speaker 2: and they have for a couple of years. And this
Speaker 2: is also some of my trepidation about Tatum. Tom Haberstrow,
Speaker 2: who has a sub stack. You gotta pay for it,
Speaker 2: but it's like sixty bucks for the year. If you're
Speaker 2: a big NBA fan, you know it's five bucks a month.
Speaker 2: I think it's worth it. He did an article on
Speaker 2: Tatum yesterday that is galling. As far as okay, MVP
Speaker 2: candidates and their effective field goal percentage in the clutch
Speaker 2: this year, Shay sixty two percent. Again, effective field goal
Speaker 2: percentage showed incorporates three is are worth more than two?
Speaker 2: But just it's fine. Jokic sixty one, Jannis fifty nine percent,
Speaker 2: Luca fifty four percent, Tatum thirty eight percent. Okay, is
Speaker 2: that outlier. Tatum's effective field goal percentage in the clutch
Speaker 2: two years ago thirty eight and a half percent. Last
Speaker 2: year thirty eight point three percent, this year thirty eight percent.
Speaker 2: Tatum three point shooting in the clutch nineteen percent. So
Speaker 2: and this is.
Speaker 3: All happen in those moments, I notice.
Speaker 2: Correct, So that is that's exactly right. His shot selection
Speaker 2: is very poor, and this is where and so just
Speaker 2: just for the for the context here of everyone in
Speaker 2: the league that's over the last three years taking at
Speaker 2: least two hundred clutch shots, all right, there's only one, two, three,
Speaker 2: eleven or twelve guys, and here's who they are. Number one,
Speaker 2: shout out Daniel Jokic. This effective field goal percentage at
Speaker 2: fifty five percent. Number two steph fifty three percent. Number
Speaker 2: three DeRozan, shout out Damar fifty two percent. Number four
Speaker 2: Fox fifty one percent. He just won Clutch Player of
Speaker 2: the Year. Number five Embeid fifty one percent. Tied with
Speaker 2: Lebron at fifty one percent. Number seven Shay forty eight percent,
Speaker 2: Number eight Durant forty seven percent, nine Trey Young forty
Speaker 2: six percent, ten Dejante Murray forty five percent, eleven Donovan
Speaker 2: Mitchell forty four percent, twelve Tatum thirty eight percent. So
Speaker 2: of there's twelve guys that have taken a lot of
Speaker 2: these shots. He last by a lot. And you say
Speaker 2: shot selection, demanse, that is the problem. This is where
Speaker 2: the idolization of Kobe can bite you a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so two things on Kobe. One is, and this is
Speaker 2: gonna end up being at least a partial compliment. Kobe
Speaker 2: took terrible shots. What made him special was he could
Speaker 2: make them. But even Kobe, who was as good of
Speaker 2: a bad shot maker as the league has ever seen,
Speaker 2: was not that efficient because nobody is super efficient on
Speaker 2: the on hard tough shots, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: on a tough shot. So if we just take Kobe's peak, right,
Speaker 2: if we take from Kobe's basically O two season through
Speaker 2: his last championship, even just that peak, Kobe was a
Speaker 2: forty five percent shooter because and thirty four percent from three.
Speaker 2: For his career, he was around the same, actually forty
Speaker 2: just under forty five percent of the field and just
Speaker 2: under thirty three percent from three. But he was taking
Speaker 2: impossible shots. Tatum is a really really good player, and
Speaker 2: he's taking similarly in.
Speaker 3: Boston shots, right.
Speaker 2: So that's the other thing. And the thing when you
Speaker 2: take contested jumpers, you never get to the line you
Speaker 2: know at the end of games you're not. And so
Speaker 2: that's my concern for Boston is I don't know they're
Speaker 2: gonna blow everybody out. And if these games are close late,
Speaker 2: do you trust Jimmy Butler in the heat more? I do?
Speaker 2: Do you trust Milwaukee more?
Speaker 3: Maybe now the defense in any situation though they have
Speaker 3: that going like at the end of the day, I mean,
Speaker 3: Miami's Miami's defense isn't Boston's defense. But but I get
Speaker 3: what you're saying, like when it comes to late that
Speaker 3: makes mistakes taking the right shot.
Speaker 2: But also Boston is truly they're not trying to make
Speaker 2: the finals. They're trying to win the title. And Denver,
Speaker 2: their late game execution is the best of the Jokic
Speaker 2: gets them a good shot every time. It doesn't mean
Speaker 2: Jokic is taking it, and when they have it, and
Speaker 2: the few times Denver has a bad possession, Jokic just
Speaker 2: throws up that horse over the head tree and he
Speaker 2: banks it in more than any guy I've ever seen
Speaker 2: in my life. I understand that that is a little
Speaker 2: confirmation biased, but sweet Jesus man, that guy makes more
Speaker 2: buzzing shot ending just the demoralizing, nonsense shots. And so
Speaker 2: I tonight will be interesting to watch, But I don't
Speaker 2: I trust gun to my head, Miami and Milwaukee out
Speaker 2: of the East more than Boston, despite Boston his home court,
Speaker 2: despite Boston, all these things. So we'll see. But yeah,
Speaker 2: tonight should be fun. I oddly, I think Boston is
Speaker 2: gonna sound unfair. I think Boston it would be better
Speaker 2: for them to win a close game than to blow
Speaker 2: Denver out. I think if you if it's a nip
Speaker 2: and tuck game and Boston comes out of it, that's
Speaker 2: actually better than them blowing Denver out. Exactly right, All right,
Speaker 2: let's play right ends.
Speaker 3: All right, playing right ins today. So we're gonna talk
Speaker 3: a little bit of NFL before a free agency. So
Speaker 3: you know, on Tuesday we discussed, uh, Justin phil Oh
Speaker 3: that's a new one. So on Tuesday we discussed Justin
Speaker 3: Fields and Russell Wilson. But there are plenty other huge
Speaker 3: dominoes so in today. So in today's right, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna predict the future about these free agents. So first off, yep,
Speaker 3: we got Baker. Tampa remains the favorite for Baker, but
Speaker 3: Baker has been rumored to be in the solution for
Speaker 3: a few teams, including New England. Baker will sign with.
Speaker 2: Listen, I think he's gonna sign with Tampa. I think
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna get three years, one hundred million thereabouts,
Speaker 2: with like sixty five million guaranteed. But the New England
Speaker 2: thing is interesting. If I were New England and I
Speaker 2: were trying to unless I absolutely loved at least two
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks other than Caleb, because thing is, you
Speaker 2: don't know who's gonna be there at three. You can say, oh,
Speaker 2: I love Jaden Daniels or I love Drake May. You
Speaker 2: don't one of them. You don't know which one's going
Speaker 2: to be there. Now. If you love JJ McCarthy, you
Speaker 2: watch different tape than I did, or listen, I'm different.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say tape. I'm not watching the all twenty
Speaker 2: two college football, but you watch different Michigan games than
Speaker 2: I did. That's fine. He'll be there. If you love
Speaker 2: one of them, that's fine. But there is an argument
Speaker 2: to be made with the Giants seemingly wanting a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Minnesota is gonna want a quarterback. There's there's gonna be
Speaker 2: these trade up trade teams that want to trade up
Speaker 2: that if you're New England at three and you can
Speaker 2: trade with the Giants at six and get an extra
Speaker 2: first round pick, and then at six you draft either
Speaker 2: Molik Neighbors, Roma Dunsay, if you want the wide receiver,
Speaker 2: maybe Marvin Harrison. Juniors there are almost assuredly not he's
Speaker 2: probably going Ford Arizona, Joe Ault, the franchise left tackle.
Speaker 2: Or maybe if you're New England and you're like, you
Speaker 2: know what, we need a lot of stuff, so we're
Speaker 2: gonna go from three to six and get an extra first,
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna go from six to eleven and
Speaker 2: get another extra first, and now we're really cooking to
Speaker 2: take best player available there and then sign Baker as
Speaker 2: a stopgap. That might be the best team building move
Speaker 2: unless you adore multiple of these quarterbacks in the draft.
Speaker 2: But I think Baker's gonna I think Kirk Cousins is probably, oh,
Speaker 2: we're doing that.
Speaker 3: Next.
Speaker 2: I think Baker's gonna sign with Tampa for probably three years,
Speaker 2: one hundred million bucks.
Speaker 3: All right, next, all right, you thought Atlanta was crazy
Speaker 3: for considering Kirk Cousins over Justin Fields, but someone is
Speaker 3: gonna give this guy another huge contract, So it might
Speaker 3: even go back to You might even sign with Washington.
Speaker 3: Where do you think the Cousins will go?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess Washington theoretically could do the same thing
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Patriots doing, which is trade the
Speaker 2: number two pick for an absolute bounty, signed Kirk and
Speaker 2: go from there. I don't think that's gonna happen. The
Speaker 2: Atlanta thing's interesting because evidently Cousins' wife is from that area.
Speaker 2: Her in laws are there, and that's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons he might want to be there. He's such a
Speaker 2: family guy. So I didn't know that until yesterday. That's
Speaker 2: an interesting wrinkle. It seems from the people that know
Speaker 2: these things, it seems like everybody thinks Kirk's gonna go
Speaker 2: to Atlanta, and that Atlanta's gonna draft a quarterback. And
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that Minnesota's gonna draft a quarterback. Pardon me,
Speaker 2: I said that wrong, That that Kirk's gonna go to Atlanta,
Speaker 2: Minnesot's gonna draft a quarterback. That's not what I would
Speaker 2: do if I were Atlanta. I don't think you're close
Speaker 2: enough to try to, you know, sign a thirty six
Speaker 2: year old post Achilles. But I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there are reports that the Cowboys were considering
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, but their cap as it stands is already
Speaker 3: pretty high or over there over the cappon will sign with.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where he's gonna sign. I know
Speaker 2: the teams that so the Cowboys signing sake, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: would be silly. That is not their position of need,
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys this offseason should not. The Cowboys were
Speaker 2: the highest scoring team in the NFL last year, they
Speaker 2: were third highest year before, they were the highest theear
Speaker 2: before that. They don't need a shiny toy in the
Speaker 2: you know what's going to be the most expensive running
Speaker 2: back in the league, all Right'm sorry in this free
Speaker 2: agency period, not the most expensive running back in the league. Also,
Speaker 2: it does warrant mentioning that this is from somebody posted
Speaker 2: Ah Taylor Doll posted this on Twitter. The last ten
Speaker 2: Super Bowl winners, their running backs have made the following
Speaker 2: eight hundred and seventy thousand, seven hundred thousand, one point
Speaker 2: eight million, one point one million, one million, four hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty thousand, seven hundred and sixty thousand, nine hundred thousand,
Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy thousand, four hundred and.
Speaker 3: Twenty Thousand's big thing last year was getting paid.
Speaker 2: Right, and he's gonna get I don't know what the
Speaker 2: market's gonna be. I know that Saquan's gonna get the
Speaker 2: most money of any of this running back market, so
Speaker 2: that but that doesn't mean he's not a useful player,
Speaker 2: win healthy. The team that if I were them, I
Speaker 2: would say, you know what, I don't mind paying extra
Speaker 2: a little running back tax. I've got the money. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to really juice the window right now is the
Speaker 2: Houston Texans with your guys with CJ. They need a
Speaker 2: running back. They have the money, They've spent draft picks
Speaker 2: on the wide receivers. Like the Texans to me make sense.
Speaker 2: Another team that I would say, you know what, I
Speaker 2: don't mind spending the money. I've got it, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have a young quarterback that I want to support.
Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears draft Caleb signed Saquan draft
Speaker 2: a wide receiver at nine, and now you really or
Speaker 2: maybe Brock Bauers if he's there, now you're really cooking.
Speaker 2: People have attached him to Dallas and Philly. Dallas and
Speaker 2: Philly need to address obvious defensive weaknesses with their cap dollars,
Speaker 2: not go sign an expensive running back. So that's so,
Speaker 2: I would say, team with a quarterback on a rookie
Speaker 2: contract or the other kind of interesting one. They don't
Speaker 2: have the money for it, but I could see him
Speaker 2: doing it. Is he is, almost said Michigan because of Harrball.
Speaker 2: But the Chargers, but they don't have the money. They
Speaker 2: could use him, they don't have the money. All right.
Speaker 3: Next, so we talked about Saquan So let's talk about
Speaker 3: some other free agent running backs. Who've got Drrick Henry,
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard, Austin Eckler, Josh Jacobs, and if the reports
Speaker 3: are true, possibly Joe Mixon. Which free agent running back
Speaker 3: would you sign?
Speaker 2: None of them?
Speaker 3: None of them? No, you know, the Chiefs don't need
Speaker 3: a running back.
Speaker 2: No, I know. But I just wouldn't spend real money
Speaker 2: on veteran running backs unless they're Christian McCaffrey. I just wouldn't. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's just not you can find them in the draft.
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is amazing the brown he went down. The
Speaker 2: Browns running game was still great. The Ravens lost like
Speaker 2: three running backs. They were they let this running game
Speaker 2: is still great. The Pacheco was a seventh round pick. Like,
Speaker 2: it's not just the Chiefs. So that's just not where
Speaker 2: I would spend my free agent dollars.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, all right, the Oscars are this Sunday.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've had any time to watch
Speaker 3: any of the Best Picture nominees with all the time
Speaker 3: you've been spend spending studying dead capitules. But if you have, again, I.
Speaker 2: Don't have to spend a lot of time studying. It's very
Speaker 2: it's just people choose to be ignorant about it.
Speaker 3: But go ahead, if you have the best movie of
Speaker 3: this year in your opinion, was all right?
Speaker 2: So, first of all, the Oscars going to ten picture
Speaker 2: nominations was a terrible decision. Terrible Have it be five
Speaker 2: when it was five? Effort to make sure I'd seen
Speaker 2: all five. No, it's like, okay, there's five. That's digestible.
Speaker 2: It's ten movies. Who can see ten movies? Unemployed people
Speaker 2: like what? People without kids? I guess people without kids
Speaker 2: can do it. I saw seth Rogen. This might have
Speaker 2: been hold on killing him about fake news?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. Yeah, it was about him staying
Speaker 3: in smoking weed on Saturdays with his girl or his wife.
Speaker 3: If they had kids, they wouldn't able to do this,
Speaker 3: that whole thing. Yeah, yeah, I think that was a.
Speaker 2: Real Idertand oh yeah, and you also don't like people
Speaker 2: killing him for it because he's describing your dream. I
Speaker 2: get it. I understand, not like living in the Hollywood Hills,
Speaker 2: being rich, having no responsibility, just hanging out, understand it.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not killing them for it either. Uh
Speaker 2: so I that so I do under it's not just
Speaker 2: unemployed people, but people without without either without you, if
Speaker 2: you gotta, if you're gonna be able to cram in
Speaker 2: ten movies, you can't have kids and a job. You
Speaker 2: just can't. It's not possible. So and I love movies.
Speaker 2: I like I You know, that sounds like a weird
Speaker 2: thing to say, but I love great movies, love them
Speaker 2: like I was making an effort when Killers of the
Speaker 2: Flower Moon came out to go back and watch every
Speaker 2: Scorsese movie. I started that project, if you will, four
Speaker 2: months ago, whenever Killers flower Moon came out. I've gotten
Speaker 2: through two. I watched Taxi Driver and I watched Killers
Speaker 2: of Flower Moon. That's it.
Speaker 3: Hey, what do you tell Wait, I'm confused because I
Speaker 3: know about taxi drivers. I'm confused about what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Like, uh, the director, Oh, just his movies. No, oh, no,
Speaker 2: his movies. Yeah. So Scorsese has done some weird, uncomfortable
Speaker 2: and so he did. But demand say, he's done some
Speaker 2: of the greatest movies ever. And I've seen some of them.
Speaker 2: I mean, he did Good Fellas, he did The Departed,
Speaker 2: he did Raging Bull. Uh, he he did. I mean
Speaker 2: he's done a million. He did Wolf of Wall Street,
Speaker 2: which I've seen, he did Kill his Flower Moon. He's done,
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm leaving. I'm leaving out a million of great,
Speaker 2: you know, great movies. I've seen some, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to see all of them. So the only Oscar movies
Speaker 2: I've seen is Oppenheimer, Barbie and Killers of the Flower Moon.
Speaker 2: I didn't see Killers Flower Moon until the flight back
Speaker 2: from Japan, so I just saw it three days ago.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: That movie is phenomenal and it's a true story and
Speaker 2: it makes you sick about you know. It's another one
Speaker 2: of those pieces of American history that just sucks. But
Speaker 2: it is a phenomenal movie. I Oppenheimer. I saw in
Speaker 2: the theaters and then watched again when it when it
Speaker 2: was on on demand. I love but I like Nolan
Speaker 2: a lot. Nolan no the main character for the movie
Speaker 2: Silly and Chilean Murphy Blinders. Guy Nolan's the guy Nolan Nolan.
Speaker 2: Nolan made inception, which I have time story about that.
Speaker 2: We told it on the air.
Speaker 3: I do. I believe it's possible we've told it, like
Speaker 3: maybe you told me for the first time. I just
Speaker 3: heard it. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I got to see what inception came out.
Speaker 2: I gotta see because if I haven't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was like twelve or thirteen years old.
Speaker 2: All right, So, yeah, so you were you were twelve,
Speaker 2: which so I was twenty five? This is not so
Speaker 2: I in my defense, I was the age Demand is.
Speaker 2: Now think about that? How crazy? Is that?
Speaker 3: Man's wild?
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild to think about it is?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'll just tell the story. I don't care.
Speaker 2: Demand's twelve, I'm twenty five. I'm at this point. I've
Speaker 2: been Your mom and I have been together at this
Speaker 2: point for two years, maybe a year and a half.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. We're not engaged yet. Uh, but we're
Speaker 2: I don't know if we are. I think we had
Speaker 2: just started living together. But yeah, but it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if not we were. We were all together as a
Speaker 2: family all the time. And I really wanted to see Inception.
Speaker 2: And this was back when I also still occasionally smoked
Speaker 2: wheat and Demanse was with me, and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get high and drive to the theater,
Speaker 2: you know, with what am I gonna do? But I
Speaker 2: really want to see this movie. And everyone says, like
Speaker 2: it mess with your brain. I used to smoke wheat.
Speaker 2: So we go to the theater, go in, get our popcorn, whatever,
Speaker 2: sit down. I tell Demanse, I gotta go to the
Speaker 2: bathroom or something. The movie hasn't started yet. I go outside,
Speaker 2: hit it joint a couple times, come back in watch Inception.
Speaker 2: My mind is blown. I loved it. Is visibly bored
Speaker 2: and annoyed and we walk out of there and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what did you think? He was like, that was one
Speaker 2: of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. Can't believe you
Speaker 2: took me to it? And I was like, I thought
Speaker 2: it was great. Man, Well you're twelve years old, have
Speaker 2: you watched it again as an adult.
Speaker 3: I haven't, I really think so. I think that I
Speaker 3: still don't like it, and that was the last time
Speaker 3: I saw it.
Speaker 2: But but now you might like it more well whatever
Speaker 2: mind frame, but certainly now being able to understand it.
Speaker 2: But I didn't tell Demanse that until recently, that that
Speaker 2: that little piece of it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so Whipenheimer.
Speaker 2: But regardless, So I'm not qualified to give an answer
Speaker 2: to this question. Of those three, I think Killers of
Speaker 2: the Flower Ohon was my favorite. I liked Barbie a lot.
Speaker 2: I thought Barbie was really well done and really smart,
Speaker 2: and I watched that with Deanna at the house. But
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. I'd like to say people
Speaker 2: love Mastro, the Bradley Cooper movie, and there's a bunch
Speaker 2: of these movies people love. But ten's too much. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to watch all ten, but there
Speaker 2: were five, I'd be able to watch it, all right.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of having a little regret about telling that
Speaker 2: story on the air. I'm not gonna lie quick break
Speaker 2: right back, what's right?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: I anticipated at this pod being a fast one because
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna be exhausted instead of this
Speaker 2: POD's been outstanding and long, even by our standards. But
Speaker 2: let's get to some listener questions before I get to work.
Speaker 3: Go ahead to Mosey. All right, So there's some speculation
Speaker 3: that you made a Bernard to ask yourself this question.
Speaker 3: Curtis Matthews said, question for Nick. When it's all said
Speaker 3: and done, for both athletes and their respective sport, who
Speaker 3: will be the bigger goat Patrick Mahomes in the NFL
Speaker 3: or Lebron James in the NBA.
Speaker 2: I think it's actually more likely to be Mahomes because
Speaker 2: I don't think there is What has worked against Lebron
Speaker 2: is vocal contingents that were against him shortly after he
Speaker 2: entered the league in the Kobe Bryant diehards and the
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan diehards. They identified him as a threat. He
Speaker 2: also had some public ape, very public failure, and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and it was they were so entrenched.
Speaker 2: I don't think many people hate Mahomes. Hey, you starting
Speaker 2: to see some of it bubble up, some of it,
Speaker 2: but there's too many.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, there's a I noticed they're already doing it,
Speaker 3: but they show they're showing a bunch of clips of
Speaker 3: Brady getting the crap tackled out of them. They're saying
Speaker 3: Mahomes didn't have to play in this era that's already started.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, there'll be some of it. But the
Speaker 2: other thing that I think is going to I think
Speaker 2: Mahomes is going to catch Brady in the winning I do,
Speaker 2: and the numbers are going to be the one of
Speaker 2: the things Jordan has, you know, Jordan, I understand Lebron
Speaker 2: caught him in all the numbers, but in the accolades,
Speaker 2: Jordan does have five MVPs. Lebron's four. Brady and I
Speaker 2: put this in quotes, only only won three league MVPs.
Speaker 2: How many do you think Mahomes gonna end with five?
Speaker 2: What Peyton has five? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: so it's just so there are I think that I
Speaker 2: also think there are fewer people. Who's the other thing
Speaker 2: that works against Brady is Brady unlike these other guys
Speaker 2: that we talk about as goats, whether it be Lebron, Michael, Kareem, Gretzky,
Speaker 2: you know, Babe, Ruth Babyoo's hard as one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: But all of those guys, no one debated during the
Speaker 2: first you know, ten years of their career, were they
Speaker 2: the best player currently playing. It's like, oh no, this
Speaker 2: is Jordan's league, this is Lebron's league, this is Kareem's league.
Speaker 2: Those things. Brady, the Brady Manning and then Brady Rogers
Speaker 2: thing was a real debate for the first fifteen years
Speaker 2: of Brady's career, and then the last seven years Brady
Speaker 2: separated from everybody. So for all those reasons, I don't
Speaker 2: think Brady's gonna have the stickiness of the goat stuff
Speaker 2: that Jordan has had, So I think it's probably Mahomes
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Ethan Williams, what do you recommend? What do you
Speaker 3: recommend doing slash eating in Tokyo?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, listen, Tokyo is a bigger city than
Speaker 2: New York City. So what to do is it's too
Speaker 2: much to list. If you're into history, travel around Japan
Speaker 2: and go see the different shrines in the different castles.
Speaker 2: The bullet train is unbelievable. Things that take a six
Speaker 2: hour drive are a less than three hour train ride.
Speaker 2: It's affordable. Their subway system and train system is immaculate,
Speaker 2: so that's the best way to move. As far as eating,
Speaker 2: Here's what I will say about the food. Obviously, the
Speaker 2: sushi is what people are gonna be excited about. I
Speaker 2: the just average sushi in Japan that I ate, just
Speaker 2: like you don't have to go to like the best
Speaker 2: place in the just the regular sushi spot there is
Speaker 2: going to be better than any sushi place anywhere in
Speaker 2: America except for the very very best sushi you can
Speaker 2: get in LA or New York. So like if you now,
Speaker 2: sushi is a weird thing because at the very top
Speaker 2: of the top, everyone's getting the same fish, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, And there's not a lot of preparation.
Speaker 2: So the very I'm not gonna the very best sushi
Speaker 2: spots here in New York are on par in my opinion,
Speaker 2: with the best spots that I ate at in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: They are, They're on par. But the difference is almost
Speaker 2: any other city in the country other than LA, their
Speaker 2: best sushi spot would be the worst place by far
Speaker 2: that I ate while I was over there. But my
Speaker 2: favorite food stuff was the Kobe Steak. I had Kobe's
Speaker 2: Steak in Kobe and but the Kobe Steak also in
Speaker 2: Osaka or anywhere in Japan. It's expensive, uh, but it's
Speaker 2: the best food I've ever had in my life that
Speaker 2: that And now listen, I eat some of that sometimes.
Speaker 2: I there's some places in New York you can get that.
Speaker 2: It's it's exorbitant. I mean, it's an absurd amount of
Speaker 2: money in New York spent on food. In Tokyo it's
Speaker 2: a little cheaper. It's still a lot of money spent
Speaker 2: on food. But that's what I like to spend my
Speaker 2: money on, is good food. But demons, did I did
Speaker 2: the Kobe steak? At one of these places, they give
Speaker 2: you a certificate of authenticity for the cow that has
Speaker 2: both of the cow's parents, all four of his grandparents,
Speaker 2: and the cow's nose print. Buddy, the cow's nose print
Speaker 2: on the piece of paper, and it's signed like it's.
Speaker 3: Like this buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, because the the what makes Kobe beef Kobe
Speaker 2: beef is the cows get massaged, they feed beef your chamber,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's a whole thing, and
Speaker 2: then you get slaughtered.
Speaker 3: And you eat the certificate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty great. Oh. The other thing is
Speaker 2: the ramen. Ramen is phenomenal, Like yeah, here you go,
Speaker 2: all right, the let's go to jellybean.
Speaker 3: Uh, mister Kai Jellybean said, Nick, how was Japan anything
Speaker 3: you noticed culturally that was different from the US? And
Speaker 3: I went in October and I loved it.
Speaker 2: Well, what everyone's gonna say is that there's just no litter.
Speaker 2: It's just no litter. It's just not a thing. And
Speaker 2: there's also what's crazy is there's no trash cans on
Speaker 2: the street. You're they're not there. And so you might
Speaker 2: be like, why is there no litter? And it's the
Speaker 2: answer is and this is what I realized.
Speaker 3: People don't eat.
Speaker 2: You're not allowed. No, no, you're not allowed. And in fact,
Speaker 2: in like the touristy area is where they're selling like
Speaker 2: street food, they have little enclaves where you have to
Speaker 2: eat it. Like even at like a little like Kiosk,
Speaker 2: It's like you can buy food from here, you have
Speaker 2: to eat it right here because it's just not part
Speaker 2: of the culture, right, it's just not part of the
Speaker 2: culture to eat while you're moving.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: A lot of the streets were no smoking and so
Speaker 2: like there were just you would just go. But the
Speaker 2: that's what everyone notices, and it is it is just different.
Speaker 2: But the thing that I noticed that I could not
Speaker 2: believe when I say to mons, there is no jaywalking.
Speaker 2: I mean, there is no jaywalking. It is it is
Speaker 2: just the it is, yes, like there you can be
Speaker 2: at an intersection, it can be a side street, there
Speaker 2: gonna be no cars anywhere. Everyone waits and the light
Speaker 2: changes and everyone goes. It's just so there are just
Speaker 2: certain things. It's very it's just unique. And so I'm
Speaker 2: not the So those are the two things that jumped
Speaker 2: out to me more than anything. Was the the the
Speaker 2: just how different that was. Yeah, it's just a real
Speaker 2: like a real yeah, it's just a real cultural difference.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the but the it was stunning that the
Speaker 2: and I know, the no jaywalking things sounds silly, but
Speaker 2: I mean there was at one point we'd been there
Speaker 2: like five days, and your mom and I had I
Speaker 2: had gotten a little turned around on Google Maps trying
Speaker 2: to walk to a subway station, and then I realized,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh gosh, it's right there, Like I can
Speaker 2: see it, it's right there. And the but we were
Speaker 2: dead in the middle of like it was probably a
Speaker 2: three minute walk in either direction to where the crosswalk
Speaker 2: would be in the subway stations right across from me.
Speaker 2: And I said to your mom I was like, are
Speaker 2: we gonna do this?
Speaker 3: She's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, I have real guilt right now,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I'm being I was like, and
Speaker 2: I did it, of course because I'm an ugly American.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, let's just go go go go the street.
Speaker 2: But I but I it took me five days. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But regardless, My point is, it only
Speaker 2: took five days for me to actually like think twice
Speaker 2: about it now, not enough to like inconvenience myself to
Speaker 2: where I'm gonna walk it extra three minutes. No, but
Speaker 2: it's still it was. So that was that was something
Speaker 2: to me. All right, Uh, the go ahead, let's read
Speaker 2: William Jackson's and then we can move on.
Speaker 3: William Jackson suggests nick walking of grass barefoot to get
Speaker 3: back to your sleep rhythm.
Speaker 2: I gotta look that up. If that's real. That feels
Speaker 2: really close to that very annoying thing people now say
Speaker 2: on the internet all the time, which is tell people
Speaker 2: to touch grass and they're like, you're a go touch grass.
Speaker 2: I don't know when that became a thing people said
Speaker 2: to people, but now everybody says it. I don't totally follow.
Speaker 2: You don't totally follow, I mean I follow. I just
Speaker 2: don't know how it became like the the go to phrase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because everybody's in the house. But I do think
Speaker 3: that you should trust William Jackson. I think he's given
Speaker 3: you good intel.
Speaker 2: Okay, sale k r U sent a very nice comment.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and Magic Johnson asked have I seen
Speaker 2: Done two yet? I have not, but everyone that I've
Speaker 2: talked to that has seen it says it's great. I
Speaker 2: saw Dune one and I loved it. Msr ass my
Speaker 2: favorite sports memory with demnse. That's too long. We can
Speaker 2: do that another day. I don't want to give that
Speaker 2: a short end of the stick, and we've talked about
Speaker 2: it a little before, but I the that'll take longer
Speaker 2: than the end of the show. To Monse, great job today.
Speaker 2: Today's show was awesome. We're a little longer than expected,
Speaker 2: and I really wonder when I'm gonna crash, having been
Speaker 2: up since one thirty in the morning. But I haven't
Speaker 2: yet see you guys on first things, first day. I
Speaker 2: hope it's a good show. Three o'clock, see you guys.
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