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Speaker 1: Hey ron I'm having a ball at the Volkswagen Beetle.

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Speaker 1: And don't ask me why I know this, It's just

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Speaker 1: Do you think they'd stay with that original generator? No,

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the fun of the hobby, right Bob,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Northwest Missouri, one Jeep Branch Cherokee, Steve. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, How can I help? Hey man,

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Speaker 1: it's great to great to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: glad to be here. What's cooking? Well, there's two thousand

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Speaker 1: is clean, and it's you know, it's got it works

423
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: fine in the one direction. A pump doesn't know if

424
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: you're turning left or right, all right. Pressure is pressure,

425
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: and I get it. You probably don't have a pressure

426
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: gage setting. That's okay. Uh, you know what, I have

427
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: a pressure gage. I don't even know where it is

428
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: in the shop. I've got so many other tools. It's

429
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, I probably haven't used it, and I can't

430
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: think of how long, because you know, most of this

431
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: stuff is just common sense. Well, I just ordered one

432
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be here, Monday. Right, Well, then you're gonna

433
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: be you're you're gonna be the tester. You let me

434
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: know how it works. But um, what brand did you buy?

435
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: By the way, just out of curiosity. Well, I got

436
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: it off the Amazon and I didn't want to get

437
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: a lot donors into it. It's like like a box

438
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: and it's the company's name is Laying it'll work, you know,

439
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: so we know if it's got the right fitting in it. Yeah,

440
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: that's that you never know, and that's part of the

441
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: that's the thrill of order repair, my friend. So, um,

442
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: so you know it's it's I doubt that it's a pump.

443
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: It wouldn't make sense that it's a pump if the

444
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: problem is only cold only in one direction. Pumps don't

445
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: know direction. They know temperature by by means of the

446
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: viscosity of the fluid, how thick the fluid is, but

447
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: they just don't know direction. Could it be an intermediate

448
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: shift the coupling between the bottom of the column and

449
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: the top of the gear. Well, you know, not one

450
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: direction I've had. I've in all the steering shifts i've

451
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: seen fail in my lifetime and career, I've never seen

452
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: one to know direction, and it's usually it's tightest tight.

453
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: It doesn't care whether it's hot or cold. It doesn't

454
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: care what direction you're going through. You know, if that

455
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: you join the seas sees the sea stuck is stuck.

456
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess you know, knowing how you join

457
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: sit right, you know you could see one getting stuck,

458
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: go in one direction and not the other. Would it

459
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: pay for you to take a look at the intermediate joint?

460
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure your mechanic are you between the two? I'm

461
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: sure when you had that intermediate shift disconnected from the gear,

462
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody reached up there and you know felt

463
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: the joint that it's spin in both directions, doesn't have

464
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: good loose feel to it as it fluid. If not,

465
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: it's something to look at, just just to take it

466
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: off the chart. The only thing, well, you go ahead,

467
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: go ahead, you go ahead. Right right after we put

468
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: the first gear on, it seemed to get better, but

469
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: you had to you'd kick it up to about after

470
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: we you know, force the air out of it. By

471
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: working it back and forth twenty times without any pressure

472
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: on it. It seemed to get better. And all you

473
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: had to do is kick it up tons and it

474
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: would just take off and turned. But then when you

475
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: put the wheels on the ground, you wouldn't do it

476
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: right because you've got to add in the way to

477
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: the vehicle. Testing it. Testing it without weight on the system,

478
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't really tell you anything. So then we put

479
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: another gear on and flushed everything, and we've probably put

480
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: a gown and a half of flip through this thing,

481
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: just flushing it out, just to make sure. And so

482
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: basically this time, if we got it out and put

483
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: it on the ground really hard, couldn't steer it at

484
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: all either way. I just thought maybe there was something

485
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: that you might know about the makings or the workings

486
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: of that fan motor because it's got you know, like

487
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: two vowels in it, and one of them controls the

488
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: fan fluid going through and the other one controls the

489
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: steering assist. Anyway, according that's to the diagram as we've

490
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: printed off that we were able to get because you

491
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: can't really find a real schematic on it. But can

492
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: you send me the VEN of this vehicle? Can you

493
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: email me the ven the seventh teen digit vin I

494
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: could do that um Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com.

495
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: I sware I wasn't gonna do this again, but I

496
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: gotta do it. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I

497
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: gotta see this wiring diagram. I don't remember. I remember,

498
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: we're going back eighteen years. I just don't remember the

499
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: steering having an effect going through the hydraulic line. But yet,

500
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: throughout all of this, the fan motor still has operated

501
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: consistently in the same correct Yes, so it's it's still

502
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: kind of lazy. And then when it turns on from

503
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: heat it it blows and it stays, it stays cool

504
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: and it works properly. Right. Um, Now, after you put

505
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: this last gear on and bled the air, do you

506
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: have power steering? Now? No, you you don't have power

507
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: steering in either direction. No, But with the old gear

508
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: you had it in one direction, not the other. I

509
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: have to With the original, I steer it one way

510
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't lock up all time as you wanted,

511
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: just every now and then. But I did check for

512
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: recalls on those steering gears, and when this vehicle was made,

513
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: which I can't find a mild date on it because

514
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: somebody got rid of my label or either off the

515
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: door somewhere. We can't find one with a bill date

516
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: there was six D thirty six of these units or

517
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: these vehicles they recalled, and the recall was for they

518
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: had nuts that was coming loose in the steering gear

519
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: and you just lock up on you going down the road.

520
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: I would think by now that's been done. But the

521
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: easiest way would be if you take your VIN go

522
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: out to n h T S A dot Gov and

523
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: plug it in there. If this vehicle has an open recall,

524
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: that will tell you, you know, nut you go out

525
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: to NISA. Now I thought, after this long we probably

526
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't make any difference. No. No, A recall is always

527
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: a recall. They'll they've they've gotten very fussy on recalls

528
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: in the last in the last five or six years.

529
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: That once the recall is on a vehicle, that recalls

530
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: there until it's either resolved or the vehicle is scrapped.

531
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: It's it's it's one of the other. A recall, from

532
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: what I'm told, stays with a vehicle for the life

533
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: of the vehicle period. So it was only certain build dates.

534
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: And we don't know the build date right, and I

535
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: you know the fact that the vehicle worked fine all

536
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: this time and now the problem happened. Uh, you know,

537
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: not to mention who's the rebuilder? Is it? Is it

538
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: an aftermarket rebuilt? Yeah? I knew you were gonna say that. Um,

539
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: I just knew it. Brother. Uh, you know, a one

540
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: card dome. They've got their issues and I don't I

541
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: don't want to pick on the company and say, oh,

542
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: it's got to be the rack. But well, i'll tell

543
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: you what. It makes me suspect, it really does. Found

544
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: one video on YouTube the guy replaced three of him

545
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: and he went to the junk yard and got one

546
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: and it worked. Yeah. Um, so I would be suspect

547
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: the fact that the last rack worked different than this rack.

548
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: The only thing you changed was the rack. Do the math? Uh,

549
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, and that's you know, and that's unfortunately, this

550
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: is the spin the wheel portion of the show where

551
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, spin the wheel, take your best guests and

552
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: and and figure out you know, which way and how

553
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna deal with it. So the crustler mechanic at

554
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: one shop we talked to because my son's also in

555
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the auto parts business and he manages a car quest store,

556
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: and the mechanics did trade it off. Well I don't

557
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: know if I trade it off, but I would definitely,

558
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, look at it with your pressure gauge, and um,

559
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: I would think real careful about. I would think real

560
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: careful about. You know, do your pressure test. If that

561
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: pump's got good pressure, I think it's time to put

562
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: a rack in it. But send me the Vin Ron

563
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: at Car Doctor show dot com. I want to look

564
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: at that wiring diagram and see how the power of

565
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: steering is affecting the fin and then we can talk

566
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: a little bit more about it. All right, Steve, you

567
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: take good care and have a good rest of the afternoon,

568
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: and we'll talk again real soon. I'm run on any

569
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor coming back right after this. What's

570
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: more fun than listening to Ron Andy in the Car

571
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? Eight five five

572
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. Give Ron a call. Now back

573
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: to Ron, let's talk a little bit about the Hyundai. No,

574
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: I guess I can't do that, looks like, Tom, what's

575
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: the matter? Well, I yeah, I was just thinking. I

576
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: forgot to ask you before. I had an issue this

577
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: week when I was out of town and it wasn't

578
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: that cold. Wait wait, wait wait wait wait. Next up

579
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: on the Car Doctor, Tom from Newburgh, New York with

580
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: a question about his Ford escape. Humbug um whatever. Stay

581
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: uh yeah, no, no, the it kind of turned over

582
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: a little, uh a little slowly, so I think it

583
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: maybe getting time for a battery. I have to bring

584
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: it in for breaks anyway, so um, yeah, well we

585
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: could do that, you know. We let's see, it's a

586
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, it's three going on four years old. And yeah,

587
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: it's possible. Listen, I'll tell you what. I have a

588
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of stuff plugged into it, so you have a

589
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: lot of stuff plugged in and and yeah, okay, it

590
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: gets possible. And I'll tell you what. I'll tell you

591
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: a real quick battery story. We'll tell the key story

592
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: later tomorrow. Some Um, I've been thinking about this car

593
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: for two weeks now. We talked about it. I touched

594
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: it briefly. I touched on it briefly last week. The

595
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: Lincoln MKZ I had Lincoln MKZ older customer that two

596
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I got a phone call the car wouldn't

597
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: shift out of gear when he started it, and the

598
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: dashboard display didn't work, and the radio was shut down.

599
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: Came out and triple A jump started. Because eventually got

600
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: to the point where the car wouldn't start. It was dead,

601
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: and Triple A came out, jump started, and they overrode

602
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: the shifter and brought it in. I looked at the

603
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: car a couple of times over the next three days.

604
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't duplicate the problem. I could duplicate the problem.

605
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: It was very quick how it happened, and I kept

606
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: load testing the battery. Something just bothered me about this

607
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: two year old battery that you know, there's a reason here,

608
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: there's something. I just gotta be certain. I couldn't find

609
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: any thing wrong with the car, and I'm telling you

610
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: the story for a reason. On a gut call. Sometimes

611
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: it takes guts to fixed cars. I put a battery

612
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: in it fix the car. The interesting thing is, when

613
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: the car went into this shutdown mode, of all the electronics,

614
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't communicate with all the modules on the bus.

615
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: I've plugged in a scan tool, and some of the

616
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: modules worked and some of the modules didn't. And you

617
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: would think there's a communication fault, that the network is down,

618
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: that something's pulling it down, preventing that car from starting,

619
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: or preventing that car from shifting out of park, or

620
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: the radio from working, and so on. My point is,

621
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: I think batteries are becoming more and more inherently the

622
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: soul of the car. They really are, and I don't

623
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: think you could put enough battery per se in the car.

624
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna make the case for a

625
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: g M batteries, which is where I'm going with this,

626
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: that much easier to sell to people. I think everything

627
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: in the future will be an a g M battery

628
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: because of their stability, because they're obviously better constructed, they

629
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: take discharge, you know, they go through deep discharge better,

630
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: and they charge up quicker. You know. I think that

631
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: a GM batteries, you're gonna start to see more and

632
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: more cars come out with a GM batteries. And you know,

633
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: like Tom says, here's this three year old fifteen Escape

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Speaker 1: that's starting to give him some problems. And I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see batteries last longer as a result. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just part of the technology.

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Speaker 1: A GM batteries, um really seem to be the I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the answer. But I put a

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Speaker 1: battery in that Lincoln and it fixed it. And I

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Speaker 1: haven't forgotten about that car. I'm still thinking about why

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Speaker 1: did that fix it? And I haven't come to a

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Speaker 1: conclusion yet. By the way, you can get out to

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Speaker 1: a great website. I use it all the time, auto

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Speaker 1: batteries dot Com from the folks at Johnson Controls the

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Speaker 1: other ones manufacturing a GM batteries Auto batteries dot Com.

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Speaker 1: You will uh read information there. It'll blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: So Tom, that will be your homework for next week.

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Speaker 1: Zero zero running nating the car Doctor. Coming back right

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Speaker 1: after this by Tom broadcasting. Hey, I'm running into the

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Speaker 1: car doctor. I want to finish out the hour. I

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Speaker 1: know I promised to do this last hour. There's a

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Speaker 1: there's something in the Washington Post today. Safety Group wants

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Speaker 1: Hyundai and ki to recall two point nine almost three

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Speaker 1: million vehicles Detroit, a nonprofit of the Safety Group, is

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Speaker 1: demanding that Hundai and Kia recall two point nine million

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Speaker 1: cars and issue VS in the US due to consumer

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Speaker 1: complaints that they catch fire. I could understand that if

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Speaker 1: the cars catching fire, like he comes to IKEA, I

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Speaker 1: forgot who was on the other side of the glass. Today.

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Speaker 1: The Center Road Safety said Friday that there have been

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Speaker 1: more than two and twenty complaints to the US government

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Speaker 1: since twenty about fires and another two inter complaints about

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Speaker 1: melted wires as well as smoke and burning owners. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if they're complaining because we're polluting the environment from

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Speaker 1: all the smoke. Um, you know, a lot of beans

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Speaker 1: and wienies on the side of the road. The complaints

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Speaker 1: involved two thousand eleven through four teen Kia Sorrento and Optima,

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Speaker 1: and Hunday's Sonata and Santa Fe. Also included the UH

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Speaker 1: through fifteen Kia Soul. The fires are being investigative in

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Speaker 1: National Liney Traffic Safety Administration is part of the twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen prob and to Hundai and Kia engine failures. The

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Speaker 1: volume of fires here make it appear that Hyundai and

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Speaker 1: Kia are content to sit back and allow consumers and

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Speaker 1: insurers to bear the front of poorly designed, manufacturing and

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Speaker 1: repair vehicles. Jason Levine, the center's executive director, said, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's not good. That doesn't bode well for Hundai and

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Speaker 1: Kia because they don't like it when they sit back

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Speaker 1: and ignore potential recoil items. We'll have to stay on

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Speaker 1: top of this and follow up in the future. Because

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Speaker 1: I'm Rondini in the car doctor reminding you good mechanics

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Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you