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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's everybody doing here on a Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you. Welcome to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for making us a part of your afternoon. As

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Speaker 3: we dissect the Bill's fifty three man roster, will also

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Speaker 3: tell you about some stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: Around the league. As the waiver claim list just came out,

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Speaker 2: Bill's not awarded any players off of waivers.

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Speaker 3: They were picking thirtieth in the waiver claim order, so

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Speaker 3: even if they did put waiver claims in, it was

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Speaker 3: unlikely they were they were going to land anybody. Tennessee

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Speaker 3: who had the first pick in the waiver claim order

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Speaker 3: claimed the most players, four in total, and nobody claimed

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Speaker 3: any bills in the waiver claims, so nobody to worry

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Speaker 3: about losing there. If there was a player for practice

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Speaker 3: squad consideration, which will be assembled in about three hours,

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Speaker 3: so yeah, because that'll be the twenty four hour period.

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Speaker 4: It'll probably be some Sometimes you'll get a handful of

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Speaker 4: new players, new faces, but in this case is probably

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Speaker 4: gonna be guys whose names we know, plus the guys

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Speaker 4: they've signed over the last twenty four hours. Have we known,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jordan Phillips. And now, of course Jordan Poyer

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Speaker 3: And we'll get to that right now as we discuss

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Speaker 3: some of the Bills news and notes concerning the roster.

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Speaker 3: And earlier today we saw the report come out and

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Speaker 3: much like we sayd all with Micah Hyde last season,

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Speaker 3: the Bills are signing safety Jordan Poyer to their practice squad.

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Speaker 3: According to reports, Buffalo likely wants Poyer to serve as

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Speaker 2: Presumably they did this season. I did the same thing

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Speaker 2: last year. They did.

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Speaker 1: Hide did the exact same last year. We talked to Micah.

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Speaker 4: Now I have not talked to Jordan, but you and

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Speaker 4: I spoke to Micah last year up in upstairs when

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Speaker 4: he came in. We're he goes, Hey, he goes the

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Speaker 4: plan is for me not to play.

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Speaker 1: So he knew were out of the gate that that

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Speaker 4: But he was here to do exactly what he said mentor,

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Speaker 4: to be a voice of experience to coach him up.

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Speaker 3: So and you know, when we were sitting in the

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Speaker 3: production meeting with coach McDermott, he kind of reiterated the

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Speaker 3: vast number of sponsor responsibilities and nuances of the safety

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Speaker 3: positions in this system. And this is a guy that

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Speaker 3: played in that system for seven years, so it.

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Speaker 1: Was very successful.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot he can lend to guys that are

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Speaker 3: we'll wait for that to become official, but that is

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Speaker 3: the report. So there you go among the fifty three

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Speaker 3: man roster notes besides the obvious, Like you know, Mitchell

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Speaker 3: Trubisky is gonna be the backup quarterback and Tyrrel Shaver's

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Speaker 3: made the roster. Max Harrison and Tyland Grable will miss

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Speaker 3: the first four games of the season as both were

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Speaker 3: placed on injured.

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Speaker 2: Reserve designated to return. So I think the presumption.

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Speaker 3: Is both players will be plenty ready to return in

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Speaker 3: we're hoping that Max Harrison would be coming along in

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Speaker 3: Be a consideration to be a game day active in

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Speaker 4: It's disappointing, although I think it's the smart thing to do, because,

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Speaker 4: him to come back too soon and all that, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 4: And it is disappointing because now you're because even this

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Speaker 4: He never got back on tract Cole Bishop's broken clavigal

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Speaker 4: things where he never reaches his full put potential in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, knowing games aren't coming up, and

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Speaker 3: we'll ramp you up for football. Same thing with Tyland Grabil.

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Speaker 3: As you know Grable with the concussion. He's still in

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Speaker 3: the protocol now, but he had begun practicing last week

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Speaker 3: full medical clearance. Now that could come as soon as

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Speaker 3: Vandermark and Chase Lunt both Yukon products. So they've got

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Speaker 3: then the final note, which I think everybody knows at

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Speaker 3: this point, Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogunjobi placed on the

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Speaker 3: six games.

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Speaker 2: Then game week six, Week seven is a bye.

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Speaker 2: Seven for the Bills. So that's kind of where that sits.

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Speaker 3: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy official

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Speaker 3: healthcare system at the Buffalo Bills and the Ravens have

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Speaker 3: locked down the game's most versatile safety. Baltimore agreed the

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Speaker 3: terms on a four year contract extension with Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 3: that's worth over one hundred million dollars. The deal will

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Speaker 4: He said that the way the deal is structured, he's

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Speaker 4: going to get like forty five or forty eight million

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Speaker 4: just after the regular season and Super Bowl are over,

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Speaker 1: He's a huge part of it, so congratulations to him.

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Speaker 3: According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Chiefs wide receiver Rashi Rice

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Speaker 1: It looked like a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Because if you think about it, you've you looked at

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Speaker 3: And the guy goes in for his disciplinary hearing. You know,

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Speaker 3: He wants to sweep this aside as quickly as he can.

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Speaker 3: So whatever you got, just give it to me. I'll

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Speaker 3: So they'll be down, you know, an important part of

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, he.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a different view of this than maybe

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Speaker 4: he pled I guess he pled guilty to the Chargers,

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Speaker 5: Jail time and five years probation. I mean that's me whatever,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Okay, Yeah, So that's that's got the

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Speaker 5: same suspension that Ogunjobi and Hoyt.

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Speaker 3: Did, Yes, which you know is not nothing because, as

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Speaker 3: you've said before, Steve, larger suspensions generally stem from actions

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I'm I just have never

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Speaker 3: They clearly feel it carries more weight, and that's why,

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Speaker 2: Among some of the notable.

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Speaker 3: Well, what was interesting is, you know, the waiver claims

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Speaker 3: But still, you know, if you're only going to carry

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Speaker 2: Another Bill's schedule note.

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Speaker 3: Falcons starting offensive tackle Caleb McGarry Gonna missed the entire season.

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Speaker 3: McGary had a lower left leg injury and practiced last

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Speaker 2: You know Pennix is a lefty.

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Speaker 2: He steps into the fray. He's injured.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Atlanta's on Monday night football down in Hotlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that Statey's Ben Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Everybody can relate to that. You get your tackle, because

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Speaker 4: Not the guy the first that.

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Speaker 2: They don't have him. No, he's having asgery.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's what happened with the Bills in training

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Speaker 4: Luckily it was just Max, who's out just for a month.

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Speaker 3: around the NFL Presented by Kalida Healthy, official Healthcare system

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Speaker 3: of the Buffalo Bills. Topic of discussion for you today

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Speaker 3: obviously concerns the Bill's fifty three man roster. After getting

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Speaker 3: Don't have time to give as a phone call, you

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Speaker 3: one Bills Live. Was there anything Steve that kind of

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Speaker 4: I was surprised that not that Shaq Thompson made it

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Speaker 2: On that That was a low number.

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Speaker 1: I thought a guy like Charlo or.

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Speaker 4: Somebody might have snuck on just as a special teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I am hopeful that the Bills can get Keyante Jenkins

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Speaker 4: On the other side, I got to shrug my shoulders

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Speaker 3: And he also has a fully guaranteed contract, so you're

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Speaker 4: So that was a little surprising. But I thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: And when you are light at a position on your

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Speaker 3: at that position on their practice squad, so I think

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Speaker 3: the odds are very good. We see Keyantae Jenkins and

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Charlo on Buffalo was practice squad here when it's

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Speaker 3: officially formed later this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: That we're getting word here now in our little chat

446
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Speaker 4: thing that the Bills are signing a cornerback that was

447
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Speaker 4: recently with the Titans to the practice squad, Jalen Kimber yep,

448
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Speaker 4: to their practice squad. He was from Penn State. After

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Speaker 4: the last year in twenty twenty four we played with

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Speaker 4: Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Had a couple of transfers.

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Speaker 1: You know, he played at Florida and Georgia yep.

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Speaker 4: So they need corners, we know that, Yeah, Jalen Kimber.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see when his name pops up. Uh, I

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Speaker 3: would say. Aside from linebacker, the only other thing that

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Speaker 3: caught my eye was just the difference in how they

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Speaker 3: divvied up the d line. Last year they had six

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Speaker 3: defensive ends and four defensive tackles.

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Speaker 2: This year they went five and five.

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Speaker 3: Not you know, not that that's anything earth shattering, but

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Speaker 3: I just always find it interesting how the position groups

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Speaker 3: are delineated, and you understand why they drafted two defensive tackles,

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Speaker 3: so there was a strong likelihood that number was going

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Speaker 3: to be bigger and it is. And let's not forget

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Speaker 3: this too. They took ten defensive linemen, and they still

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Speaker 3: have two on the reserve suspended list for the first

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Speaker 3: six games. So I suppose it's possible that by the

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Speaker 3: time those guys come back, maybe one or two of

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Speaker 3: those guys are out with injuries and then you don't

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Speaker 3: have to worry about it. Maybe you move one of

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Speaker 3: those players to IR to create a space. But short

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Speaker 3: of that, it's going to be some interesting decisions when

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Speaker 3: you get to a week six or seven.

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Speaker 4: Not a surprise really, but seven of their draft picks

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Speaker 4: are on the squad, probably eight with.

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Speaker 3: Harrison Harriston's coming back, so yeah, Praither's on IR and

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Speaker 3: he's done for the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's that's a pretty good sign. We'll see

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Speaker 4: how much they contribute. But at this early stage it

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Speaker 4: looks they look because all of those guys have looked

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Speaker 4: pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they all flashed through the course of the preseason.

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Speaker 3: We gotta take a break here because when we come back,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be joined by our good friend from NFL

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Speaker 3: Film senior producer Greg Cosell will join us. We'll get

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Speaker 3: his thoughts on Buffalo's fifty three man roster and maybe

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Speaker 3: some of the things he saw in the final preseason

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Speaker 3: game against Tampa.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of that? Shavers?

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Speaker 3: One handed, Greb. We'll catch up with Greg next here

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Speaker 3: on One Bills Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we are awaiting

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Speaker 3: the arrival of one Greg co Sell, senior producer for

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Speaker 3: NFL Films. As we talked to him about the formation

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Speaker 3: of the Bills fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pose this to you, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Do you expect additional tweaks to said roster here over

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Speaker 3: the next few days?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, minor stuff, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One or two spots or whatever, and the practice squad

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Speaker 4: take place, and there might even be they might even

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Speaker 4: tweak it by like three guys by the time opening

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Speaker 4: day rolls in, So they'll they'll always tinker with it,

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Speaker 4: particularly on game day with the game day roster in

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Speaker 4: final forty seven.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there'll be a few, Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Might be some minor things going.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let's welcome in now, senior producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 3: Greg co Cell and uh, Greg, the rosters set. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you really took a look at

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Speaker 3: any of that, But looking at the Bucks game, the

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Speaker 3: final preseason game, did you feel like there was anybody

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Speaker 3: that really kind of cemented themselves with a spot on

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Speaker 3: the roster with their performance in there in that game.

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Speaker 8: You know, It's funny, I kind of felt like the

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Speaker 8: roster because of the draft picks would likely be said

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Speaker 8: on defense, and clearly it was a defensive draft more

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Speaker 8: than an offensive draft. You know, I know they that

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Speaker 8: they were really looking to see Cole Bishop, who I

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Speaker 8: think has to be an important piece of his defense.

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Speaker 8: And it's hard to know, you know, I guess he

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Speaker 8: played two or three series, and you know, I think

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Speaker 8: the strength of his game. Obviously he plays on the

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Speaker 8: back end and you have to in the Buffalo defense

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Speaker 8: at times, but I think he's a better player playing

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Speaker 8: downhill and I think he saw that obviously. Dian Walker

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Speaker 8: had some really good snaps in that game. You know,

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Speaker 8: to me, the big question, given that they there are

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Speaker 8: three defensive linemen, three rookie defensive lineman the second, third

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Speaker 8: and fourth round picks in Sanders, Jackson, and Walker, what

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Speaker 8: I'm most curious about, And I don't know if you

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Speaker 8: guys have any feel for that is, you know what

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Speaker 8: kind of snaps they might get in the regular season.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's something that I'm really fascinated to see

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Speaker 8: because obviously, a second round pick, a third those are

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Speaker 8: not throwaway picks. So I'm really curious to see how

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Speaker 8: they map out playing time. I'm really curious to see

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Speaker 8: when the season starts, and obviously you've got that Sunday

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Speaker 8: night game where you're facing a very active, mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 8: How many snaps Joey Bosa will get, You know, I

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Speaker 8: think there's a lot of things. These are not questions

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Speaker 8: in my mind, you know, not things I'm worried about.

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Speaker 8: I'm just curious about, you know, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 8: guys are as well. And we'll obviously talk more about

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Speaker 8: the game itself next week. But you know, there are

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Speaker 8: three rookie defensive linemen. When you draft guys where they drafted,

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Speaker 8: I think you expect those guys to play meaningful snaps.

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Speaker 8: And I know that's a relative term, and that could

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Speaker 8: be games specific and opponents specific, but you're not drafting

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Speaker 8: those guys at where they did for those guys not

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Speaker 8: to play.

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Speaker 4: At all, well, it seems like they're going to get it.

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Speaker 4: Find out early because of the Michael Hoyt and Larry

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Speaker 4: Ogan Joby's suspensions. You figure those two guys were probably

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Speaker 4: be on the roster in a normal year, but with

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Speaker 4: them being suspended, certainly those young guys are gonna have

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Speaker 4: to contribute early. I mean, there's just no way around it.

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Speaker 4: The numbers that you look at it, there's nobody else

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Speaker 4: to play, particularly and you know the Bills are going.

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Speaker 8: To rotate, no, and that's what they do. So that's

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Speaker 8: why I'm really curious, and you know we'll see when well,

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Speaker 8: I guess our hoy and Ogunjobi is a six games, yes,

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Speaker 8: six for both right, yes, yeah, So I mean you're

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Speaker 8: talking about a meaningful number of games. And I'm not

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Speaker 8: suggesting that when those guys come back that you know,

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Speaker 8: they're not going to play. Obviously they will, but it'll

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Speaker 8: take a little time to work back in and how

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Speaker 8: that will then impact the rotation, and I guess much

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Speaker 8: of that would depend on how the rookies play. I mean,

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Speaker 8: if T J. Sanders and Dio and walk are talking

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Speaker 8: about Ogan Jobie for instance, if they play meaningful snaps

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Speaker 8: and play well, you know, it's sometimes it's hard just

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Speaker 8: to throw a guy in week seven or or you

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Speaker 8: know and say, okay, you're gonna play a lot of

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Speaker 8: snaps now if other guys are playing well.

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Speaker 3: I know, uh, we've already talked to you a couple

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Speaker 3: of times through the course to the preseason about Dion Walker.

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Speaker 3: But he seems to be making strides with his game

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Speaker 3: each time he's out on the field. I know you're

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Speaker 3: not thrilled with this pad level. This pad level didn't

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Speaker 3: mean a hill of beans in that game. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's throwing guards aside like stuffed animals, and you know,

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Speaker 3: well making plays.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean, well, the thing with him is is

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Speaker 8: he is I remember and I probably told you guys this,

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Speaker 8: but I did him in the summer of twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: four with his twenty twenty three tape, and he had

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Speaker 8: the look because he's so big and so athletic. He

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Speaker 8: had the look of a first round player. And again,

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Speaker 8: you know, he may be one of those guys just

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Speaker 8: because of his height that never always plays with good

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Speaker 8: pad level. You know exactly what you want because he's

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Speaker 8: just so tall. But he's such a good athlete. He's

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Speaker 8: really light on his feet, he's strong, every other trait

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Speaker 8: he really has so The question is can he overcome

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Speaker 8: the fact that and Steve knows this exceptionally well. You know,

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Speaker 8: no matter how big and stronger athletic you are, if

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Speaker 8: you do stand up too often, you know that that

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Speaker 8: negatively impacts all of that. If he can at least

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Speaker 8: modify it, Brownie to the point where it's not a

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Speaker 8: big factor. He's got a lot of traits to him.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot in his body.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 4: I know that in large measure, there's a pecking order

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Speaker 4: when it comes to quarterbacks. And we watched Mitch Trubisky

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Speaker 4: and Mike White have it out over the first two

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Speaker 4: couple of football games, and then Shane bouchell comes in

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Speaker 4: and really has a has a nice game against Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 4: I mean a really good game.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: And how does that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're you've seen this, how does this

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Speaker 4: affect the evaluation process? Certainly Bouchelle the playing field was

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Speaker 4: tilted a little bit more in his favor than it

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Speaker 4: was for Trubisky White.

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Speaker 8: You know, I I to be honest with you, Steve,

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Speaker 8: I always struggle with watching guys play in the preseason games,

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Speaker 8: because you know, I've been fortunate to be a training

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Speaker 8: camps and you know, you guys know that you're around.

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Speaker 8: But obviously coaches want to see a player play well

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Speaker 8: in the game. But as you guys know, there would

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Speaker 8: these guys every single day. You know, these guys get

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Speaker 8: in at six thirty seven in the morning, they're there

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Speaker 8: till seven at night, they're in meetings, the coaches get

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Speaker 8: to know them exceptionally. Well, there's a lot of football

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Speaker 8: talk all day long. I mean, that's what these guys do.

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Speaker 8: So I'm not going to sit here and say the

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Speaker 8: games don't matter. Of course they do. You want to

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Speaker 8: see a player execute and perform well whatever it is

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Speaker 8: he is asked to do. Regardless of who the opposition is.

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Speaker 8: It's always easy to say, oh, well he's playing against

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Speaker 8: the second or third team or whatever, or guys who

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Speaker 8: aren't going to be on the opponent's roster. But they're

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Speaker 8: looking for execution and that's what they're looking for. They

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Speaker 8: want to see players execute what they're asked to execute.

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Speaker 8: But in many ways, in many ways, the games themselves

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Speaker 8: are somewhat secondary to the day to day how these

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Speaker 8: guys react to everything that's thrown at him. I've been

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Speaker 8: fortunate to sit in meetings, you know, quarterback meetings at

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Speaker 8: training camp in my career, and you know where they

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Speaker 8: just throw out tests like Okay, what's the protection, what's

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Speaker 8: the front, what's this, what's that? So much of that

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Speaker 8: is more important than the game itself. So you know,

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Speaker 8: Bouchelle's a guy that you know, he's probably, I mean

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Speaker 8: not probably. He is a backup type in the league.

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Speaker 8: The question is is he going to be around for

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Speaker 8: the Bills. I mean, right now, Trubisky's the backup, you know,

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Speaker 8: don't They only have two on the active rocketspeak right now.

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Speaker 3: We're anticipating Bouchelle will be on the practice squad. That's

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Speaker 3: our anticipation. So let's take that a step further because

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Speaker 3: I think Trubisky this training camp performed better than he

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Speaker 3: did last year when he first came back from Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: in his second stint with the Bills. I felt his

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Speaker 3: his ball velocity was better. I felt his second reaction

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Speaker 3: playmaking was better. It's it's almost like he rediscovered his mobility,

660
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Speaker 3: which was such an attractive trade of his that made

661
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Speaker 3: him such a high drag hick to begin with. And

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Speaker 3: then he came here and some of that went away,

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Speaker 3: especially when he came back to the team from Pittsburgh

664
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Speaker 3: last year and to see him utilizing his mobility and

665
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Speaker 3: making second reaction throws and not only that, making you know,

666
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Speaker 3: his arm velocity and passing velocity looked improved also. And

667
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Speaker 3: then we saw in Hard Knocks last night that he

668
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Speaker 3: was working with the biometric guy and that was confirmed

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Speaker 3: based on some of the numbers they were spitting out

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Speaker 3: on the show last night. I'm really I'm encouraged. Not

671
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Speaker 3: that I ever want to see him on the field

672
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Speaker 3: this season, Greg, but what did you see some of

673
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Speaker 3: those same things from him?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I think that you made a great point.

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Speaker 8: I think one of the things that was attractive about

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Speaker 8: him when he came out was that he was a

677
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Speaker 8: good athlete, and he's got good size, and he's a

678
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Speaker 8: good athlete. He'll always have one limitation as a thrower.

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Speaker 8: That is, he's never going to get over because that's

680
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Speaker 8: the way he throws, and that that's he's a locked

681
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Speaker 8: front leg thrower. So at some point the velocity it

682
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Speaker 8: could reach a certain level and it'll stop. And that's

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Speaker 8: just the way he throws the ball. There are certain

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Speaker 8: quarterbacks that have been like that. Alex Smith was a

685
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Speaker 8: locked front leg thrower, and that's why you know, at

686
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Speaker 8: a certain point the velocity stops. You know. The point

687
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Speaker 8: is is if you have to play with him, you know,

688
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Speaker 8: and you certainly hope not in history, you never know

689
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Speaker 8: what the future holds, what to Marvel brings. But obviously

690
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Speaker 8: Josh Allen, you know, I don't think he's missed any

691
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Speaker 8: times since he's been the starting quarterback, but you know,

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Speaker 8: you wonder if parts of the offense would have to

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Speaker 8: be different. I mean, they've sort of advanced under Joe

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Speaker 8: Brady to very much of a rhythmic passing game, which

695
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Speaker 8: obviously Drubisky can execute. Theoretically, any quarterback, you know, stylistically

696
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Speaker 8: can execute that style of offense. But you don't want

697
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Speaker 8: to feel like your offense stops if you have to

698
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Speaker 8: put your backup quarterback in the game. He's obviously not

699
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Speaker 8: going to make Josh Allen plays, but you want to

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Speaker 8: feel like you could still run the foundation staples that

701
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Speaker 8: are absolutely essential to your offense. And don't forget he's

702
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Speaker 8: in it now for a second year, Brownie. I mean,

703
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Speaker 8: there's that that means so much. I'm not sure people

704
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Speaker 8: understand that with all the terminology, all the checks, all

705
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Speaker 8: the audibles, everything that goes into it, calling to plays

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Speaker 8: in the huddle, you know, the mental part. I don't

707
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Speaker 8: know if you guys got to watch quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 8: with Burrow, Goff and Cousins. But in Show three, which

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Speaker 8: I thought was phenomenal, you know, obviously we did it

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Speaker 8: here at Films. They opened Show three with about a

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Speaker 8: five to seven minute thing of everything that goes on

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Speaker 8: before the snap of the ball, and they ended the

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Speaker 8: segment with, you know, with Burrow saying, and then you

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Speaker 8: snap the ball. You know, there's so much that goes

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Speaker 8: on that you have to learn. So now being in

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Speaker 8: his second year, he's much better equipped to deal with

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Speaker 8: that if he has to play.

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Speaker 4: So you got this crew they just picked their fifty

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Speaker 4: three and the Bills, who had low expectations offensively going

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Speaker 4: into last year with all the stuff that happened, trading

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Speaker 4: stuff on Diggs, they bring in a guy named Mac

722
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Speaker 4: Collins who nobody knew. Now this year they go with

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Speaker 4: you know, Josh Palmer, Keon Coleman, Khalil Shakir Curtis, Samuel

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Speaker 4: Tyrrell Shavers, and Elijah Moore. It seems on the surface

725
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Speaker 4: like this is an upgrade over where they were a

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Speaker 4: year ago, at least at this end of the schedule. Now,

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Speaker 4: last year, of course, they scored more points than anybody

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Speaker 4: in the league. But if there's an improvement here in

729
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Speaker 4: this group, where could this offense go.

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Speaker 8: I think the big question is, who's the guy that's

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Speaker 8: going to come in without wearing any shoes this year?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 8: You know, mccollins did, right, you know. But you know,

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Speaker 8: it's an interesting group because there's a couple of guys

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Speaker 8: here that I remember that I really like through their

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Speaker 8: college careers and have sort of been a little surprised

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Speaker 8: that it hasn't quite worked out. And you know, you

738
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Speaker 8: never know why that's the case, because I don't know

739
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Speaker 8: the players. I don't know the situations. You know, Elijah Moore,

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Speaker 8: I liked him coming out of college. Josh Palmer I

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Speaker 8: really liked coming out of college. And I remember that

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Speaker 8: year I happened to be out in California and I

743
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Speaker 8: was visiting the Chargers training camp and was talking to

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Speaker 8: Tom Telesco, who at the time was the Chargers GM,

745
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Speaker 8: and we were talking about how much we both like

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Speaker 8: Josh Palmer's college tape, and you know, I've always thought

747
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Speaker 8: he was a really good receiver, So you know, maybe

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Speaker 8: this is the opportunity, obviously with the Josh Allen where

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Speaker 8: he's going. You know, not that there's anything wrong with

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Speaker 8: Justin Herbert, of course, but you know, maybe this is

751
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Speaker 8: the year that he becomes sort of a I don't

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Speaker 8: want to see in number one in the sense he's

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Speaker 8: going to catch one hundred and twenty balls, but where he

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Speaker 8: becomes sort of more of that guy. Obviously, they're expecting

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Speaker 8: much more from Kean Coleman. They traded up Memory Starves

756
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Speaker 8: Me correctly to get him in the second round last year.

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Speaker 8: They're expecting him to become a really meaningful player in

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Speaker 8: this in this offense. We know about Shakia, I mean,

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Speaker 8: Shakira is to me. I've spoken to him about him

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Speaker 8: since he was drafted from Boise. I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 8: remember how much I liked him coming out of college.

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Speaker 8: So I'm not surprised by his success in the league.

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Speaker 8: I'm fascinated. I don't know at this moment in time

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Speaker 8: how many snaps he's going to get in a game,

765
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Speaker 8: but I'm fascinated by the Shaver's kid because he's long,

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Speaker 8: he's got stride length. You know he can run because

767
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Speaker 8: of that stride length. You know, you saw him make

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Speaker 8: that catch this week. Not that you're going to make

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Speaker 8: a phenomenal one handed catch every week, but you know,

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Speaker 8: now you're dealing with a guy that maybe becomes a

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Speaker 8: red zone weapon or a back shoulder weapon, or you know,

772
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Speaker 8: there's ways in which to deploy him. So you know,

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Speaker 8: I think that this, to me is a really fascinating

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Speaker 8: group that you know, I think there's a lot there.

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Speaker 8: You know, you never know with guys that have been

776
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Speaker 8: with other teams, but there's I think there's a lot

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Speaker 8: there from a talent perspective.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, put your creskin hat on.

779
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Speaker 3: And tell me, like what you think might be tweaked

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Speaker 3: or different in Joe Brady's scheme in light of what

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Speaker 3: he has at his disposal. And I will tell you this,

782
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Speaker 3: greg this offensive staff loves Jackson Hawes and his ability

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Speaker 3: to block as a traditional why tight end so much

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Speaker 3: so so much so that it has me wondering if

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Speaker 3: he's on the field more than we saw Alec Anderson

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Speaker 3: on the field last year in those jumbo sets.

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Speaker 8: That's a great point because Jackson Haw's the Georgia Tech kid, right, Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I did him. Yeah, he's a great blocker. I was

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Speaker 8: trying to remember, yeah, you know, because now I've moved

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Speaker 8: on from the draft and I you know, I'm you know,

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Speaker 8: so I'm trying to remember he's a I mean, he's

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Speaker 8: your old school blocker, Brownie, as you just suggested. I mean,

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Speaker 8: not that he can't catch a ball at all, but

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Speaker 8: you know, you're not putting him out there to be

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Speaker 8: a receiver in the pass game. Uh, that's a great Again,

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Speaker 8: that's something we won't know until we get to the season.

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Speaker 8: You know, maybe he's out there more because he still

798
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Speaker 8: is a receiver. Obviously, Alec Anderson is not a receiver,

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Speaker 8: so it's a different scenario when you do have a

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Speaker 8: tight end instead of a six offensive lineman. And as

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Speaker 8: you guys know, they played far and away more snaps

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Speaker 8: with six offensive linemen than any other team in the league.

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Speaker 8: So maybe there'll be a change there to some degree,

804
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Speaker 8: because this kid is a total dog is a blocker.

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Speaker 8: But you know, talking about any tweaks offensively, I would

806
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Speaker 8: think that they would love to see a little more

807
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Speaker 8: verticality at times in the past game. Again, that doesn't

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Speaker 8: mean dropping back and just tossing it sixty yards down

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Speaker 8: the field. But you know, so much of what happened

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Speaker 8: last year, and maybe that was a function of the

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Speaker 8: receiving core, because clearly Shakir kind of became the guy

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Speaker 8: and he's much more of a short, short, intermediate weapon

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Speaker 8: and that's his game. But I think they would love

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Speaker 8: to be able to have a little more verticality at

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Speaker 8: times in their past game. We know the quarterback can

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Speaker 8: do it, that's not even an issue. But you know,

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Speaker 8: every team wants explosive plays. That's all you hear when

818
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Speaker 8: you talk to offensive coordinators is explosive plays. And I

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Speaker 8: think that's something they would probably love to see more of.

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Speaker 8: And I know they've led the league in points, but

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Speaker 8: you know every team tweaks no matter what they do

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Speaker 8: the year before.

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Speaker 1: Greg, good stuff. Can't wait.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you before the Sunday night game against

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Speaker 4: Baltimore next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 8: You know it's a good opener.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 8: We'll have fun next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks Greg.

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Speaker 3: That senior producer from NFL Films, Great co Sale joining

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Speaker 3: us also co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, and

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Speaker 3: I will make the prediction here that Bill's Ravens will

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Speaker 3: be a featured segment on the first edition of this

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Speaker 3: year's ESPN's NFL Matchup program. We have to take a

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Speaker 3: break here, but we're going to open the phone lines

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Speaker 3: when we get back. So Ryan and Toronto are gonna

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Speaker 3: lead us off when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Fris Brown,

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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you, gonna get over to the phones.

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Speaker 3: As we were asking you today, you've seen the Bills

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Speaker 3: fifty three man roster. Is there anything you would have

845
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Speaker 3: done differently? Maybe you had a preference that was different

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Speaker 3: for a particular player. You let us know at eight

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Speaker 3: oh three, oh five fifty one, eight eight eight five,

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Speaker 3: fifty two, five fifties the numbers to join us, and

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Speaker 3: we do have open lines for you right now. But

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go to Ryan and Toronto to lead us

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Speaker 3: off today.

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Speaker 2: What you got for us? Ryan?

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Speaker 10: Thank Christeve?

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Speaker 2: How good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 10: Okay? So I understand that I'll say, was he not

857
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Speaker 10: he did not make the team? I think he earned it.

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Speaker 10: He'll earn the position man spot. Secondly, I don't see

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Speaker 10: why more on the roster. We ascally he had done

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Speaker 10: it nothing in the preseason at all. I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I don't really care about what he did and in practice,

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Speaker 10: but I did say was deserved it. And I don't

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Speaker 10: know why they got six receivers an insurance policy in

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Speaker 10: case Samuel's not ready for a week one or is

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Speaker 10: it want to go locational? Uh situation where you know

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Speaker 10: we'd have six, so we'd go, okay, all six of

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Speaker 10: them to make it ross. I believe mcgim only had

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Speaker 10: like Fivecy was place in his U tender arrow with

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Speaker 10: the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Michael's five last year was the only time every other

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Speaker 3: year it's been six, sometimes seven, seven. Yeah, the one

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Speaker 3: time they had seven that that you kind of put

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Speaker 3: an asterisk there, Ryan because that was speedy. Stevenson was

874
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: the seventh player on the roster at receiver, but then

875
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: he was I R the next day, so it was

876
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: like a one day thing.

877
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 10: I really hope that he was dressed almost every game

878
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 10: prece healthy. I was too shaves over more any day

879
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 10: any game.

880
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: You guys, yeah, you're a thing. We know you're a

881
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: tyrrel shavers.

882
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: I get it.

883
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: We are too, and there's a lot of people to

884
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: share your sentiment more. You're right, did not show too

885
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: much in the preseason. I don't know how many snaps

886
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: he took in those preseason games. I couldn't even begin

887
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: to tell you. I don't think it was very many.

888
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: He was one of the many players who had a

889
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: tough night in Chicago, had a couple of drops.

890
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: In that game.

891
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: Right, that's right.

892
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: And I will say, Ryan, I know you don't care

893
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: about practice, the coaches do. And he made plays in

894
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 3: the joint practice against Chicago three or four as a

895
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: matter of fact, including a nice tunnel screen.

896
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he takes it up the field.

897
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: He gets around the one block, there's two safeties closing in,

898
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: and he speeds in between both of them before they

899
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: can both meet in the middle, and he's up the

900
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: field and that would have gone for a touchdown. So

901
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: that's the kind of run after catchability that they want

902
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: to tap into with him. We just haven't seen enough

903
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: of it materialize. And I think what we also have

904
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: to remember here is he's one of the two guys

905
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: that are completely new to the system. And look, I'm

906
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: not making excuses for anybody. I'm just saying that could

907
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: be a contributing factor to why we haven't seen Elijah

908
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: Moore blossom in the offense to the point where that

909
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: we've seen somebody like Shaver's blossom who's been in this

910
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: for three years. So there is some of that, I

911
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: think too at play.

912
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: And also the guy we just had on, Greg Cosel

913
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: said it as well. These guys are together twelve hours

914
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: a day. They get in at seven, they leave at seven.

915
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 4: The coaches see them day in, day out, and the

916
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 4: coaches they're loyal to all the guys, but they feel

917
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: a responsibility to the to the fifty three and to

918
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 4: all the guys at all the other positions to pick

919
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: the best five guys in their room. So I think

920
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: I gotta trust that the Bills keep more for football

921
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: reasons than nothing else. And we'll find out too how

922
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: valuable he can be when they get to the regular season,

923
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: if he's a healthy scratch, or if Shavers is above

924
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 4: him or below them, or that kind of thing.

925
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: So if.

926
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 4: Tyrrell Shavers is a healthy inactive on a game day

927
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: in favor of Elijah Moore, that would tell you a

928
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: lot about what they think about what he's like off

929
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: the you know when we can't see.

930
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: I think as long as Khalil Shakir is healthy, Elijah

931
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: Moore has a chance to be an active every week

932
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: because he doesn't play on as many special teams units

933
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: as Tyrrel Shavers does. So if you're not getting more

934
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: than five ten snaps on offense, you better be playing

935
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: on special teams. If you have a jersey on game day,

936
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: that's right, So that could be a tipping point as well.

937
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: I see.

938
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: I just think they feel Elijah Moore has a similar

939
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: skill set to that of Khalil Shakir, and we know

940
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: Shakir can get nicked up every once in a while.

941
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: The high ankle sprain in the Blue and Red practice

942
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: the latest example. I think they want to have someone

943
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: of a similar skill set to plug right in if necessary.

944
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 3: Maybe they thought that was Samuel and they have different

945
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: plans for him within the scope of the offense, and

946
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: they needed somebody else, And maybe that's more. We'll have

947
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: to wait and see how some of these game day

948
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: rosters shape up over the first few weeks.

949
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Tom on a selle in here before the break.

950
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: What's up Tom?

951
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, you know Charlow is a big one for me.

952
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 7: I can't believe they cut him. And to check Thompson,

953
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 7: you know, I just Thompson's an old man, and I

954
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 7: get Ramone Humber vibes, and I think they should cut

955
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 7: to Charlo. And then another little nickpick was cutting Handler

956
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 7: in favor of Elijah Moore. I was kind of excited

957
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 7: about Elijah Moore to begin with, but I just didn't

958
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 7: see anything right.

959
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: And again, I think that probably goes back to some

960
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: degree to what the coaches saw in the practice setting.

961
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: In the joint practice with the Bears, it's the full

962
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: body of work. For fans like you, more often than not,

963
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 3: you're just seeing the preseason game. So I totally understand

964
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: why you're coming from where you are. With respect to

965
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, the coaches see an infinite number of snaps

966
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: more than any of us do, and it's like Steve said,

967
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: you got to kind of trust their evaluation and go

968
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: with it. And then with respect to Jimmy Charlo, as

969
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: soon as you saw this team take only five linebackers,

970
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: I knew Keyante Jenkins and Jimmy Charlow were probably destined

971
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: for the practice squad.

972
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: And you can call Shaq Thompson an old man. He

973
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: doesn't play like it.

974
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: He's a better athlete than Jimmy Charlo now at age

975
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: thirty one, and that's why he's on the roster.

976
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, the.

977
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 3: Guy has juice left. He has gas left in the tank.

978
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: And if he gets playing time, whether it's in a

979
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: base defense set. Although I think Dorian Williams is probably

980
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: gonna be the third linebacker on the field, you are

981
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: gonna feel him because I'm standing on the sidelines at

982
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: training camp that first week when he was healthy before

983
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: his hamstring injury, and my eyebrows are going up every

984
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: time he's involved in a play because he was bringing

985
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: the wood and that was just in a thud practice.

986
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: So in a real game, that guy has gas left

987
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 3: in the tank. I promise you, yeah. They he turned

988
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: some heads in training camp.

989
00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: He really did it.

990
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: And that was well before Jimmy Charlow was even on

991
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: the radar for most Bills fans.

992
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: And that was the other thing working against Jimmy two.

993
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: He was a late ad and so trying to get

994
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: up to speed in a defense. You know, again, it

995
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: comes down to trust, and I don't think they distrust

996
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: Jimmy to do the right thing, to put in the

997
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: time necessary to understand his responsibilities. But lack of time

998
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 3: in the system is not nothing. And I think that's

999
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: why he's a perfect candidate for the practice squad because

1000
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: now he's on board, he can learn this defense front, right, back,

1001
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: left and center all season long.

1002
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: And who knows.

1003
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: If he demonstrates proper progress, maybe he is a practice

1004
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: squad elevation one week if they're shorthanded at linebacker or

1005
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: need somebody on special teams. So I fully expect him

1006
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 3: and Keyante Jenkins to be on the practice squad. Got

1007
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: to take a break here, We're at the top of

1008
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: the hour. Second hour coming your way. More of your

1009
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: phone calls as well. Here on One Bill's Live presented

1010
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: by Kilida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1011
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

1012
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 3: All right, welcome into our number two here on a Wednesday,

1013
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and the Bills sixteen player practice

1014
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: squad is set and the names are as follows. Quarterback

1015
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: Shane Bouchelle, running back Frank Jr. Wide receivers Steven Gosnell,

1016
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: The undrafted rookie out of Virginia Tech. Wide receiver Christian Wilkerson,

1017
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: tight end Kalecki Lattu, offensive lineman Travis Clayton, Dan Feeney

1018
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: and Kendrick Green. Defensive tackles Zion log and Jordan Phillips.

1019
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: Your linebackers are Jimmy Charlow and Keyante Jenkins. Your corners

1020
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: are Daikwon Hardy and Dane Jackson. And your safeties are

1021
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: Jordan Poyer and Sam Franklin who got released by the

1022
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: Panthers the other day. He is a special team's focused

1023
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: safety and actually played under Chris Taber down there in Carolina,

1024
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: so not surprising to see his name resurface. Now I

1025
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: should mention this one of the players on their sixteen

1026
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: player practice squad is an international Pathway player, Travis Clayton,

1027
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: who's from the UK, So I believe the Bills still

1028
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: have one open spot on the practice squad because of that.

1029
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 1: There's a report out.

1030
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: Also, the defensive end Andre Jones, who was weighed by

1031
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: washing on Tuesday, is gonna go to the Buffalo's practice

1032
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: squad and he's a defensive end. Andre Jones says, yeah,

1033
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 4: so because see if that.

1034
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: Happens, well, they have a spot right because Clayton is

1035
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: one of the current sixteen and he does not count

1036
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: towards your roster total being an international pathway player. So

1037
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: they got an extra spot there if they want to

1038
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: use it. And so if that report proves accurate, that's

1039
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 3: your seventeenth guy. So there you go. You feel free

1040
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: to chime in on that. But looks like the two

1041
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: young linebackers are in the fold as we had suspected,

1042
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 3: So that's good news. And when they only kept five,

1043
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: you knew they were going to have at least two

1044
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: on their practice squad just for injury depth purposes.

1045
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 2: More than anything else.

1046
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: Right.

1047
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: Eight three five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

1048
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: five fifty the numbers to get on board. Would you

1049
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: have done anything different with the bills initial fifty three

1050
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 3: man roster Eight three, five fifty one eighty eight five two,

1051
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: five fifty those are the numbers to join us. We

1052
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: should also mention coming up at the bottom of the hour,

1053
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: we will have Brandon Bean and his press conference as

1054
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: he addresses obviously the.

1055
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Formation of the fifty three man roster.

1056
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: I assume he'll be asked a couple of questions about

1057
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: the practice squad as well, so be sure to stay

1058
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 3: tuned for that as we will carry it for you

1059
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: here live. So that's kind of where that sits. But

1060
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: you let us know if there was anything you might

1061
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 3: have done differently with the initial fifty three man roster.

1062
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: I think I might have carried an extra linebacker and

1063
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: figured out the numbers somehow someway, just because linebackers are

1064
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 3: a primary position you see serving on special.

1065
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: Teams and you need those guys. So I don't know.

1066
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean because if you look at the five linebackers

1067
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: on the roster right now, Okay, Joe Andreesen's on special teams,

1068
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: he's your backup, Mike. I'm assuming Dorian Williams is going

1069
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: to be on special teams, and perhaps even Shaq Thompson

1070
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: could be serving in some special team's capacities.

1071
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see.

1072
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: Maybe not being a veteran player, they did go heavy,

1073
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 3: you know, at defensive back eleven players there, so they've

1074
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: got plenty of dbs to put out there on special teams.

1075
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 4: You're not You're not gonna put you know, Curtis Samuel's

1076
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 4: not going to play special team shavers with Shavers with

1077
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 4: Horse Elijah Moore.

1078
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe and.

1079
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: You still have Codrington as your primary return man, were you?

1080
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: You weren't surprise.

1081
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: We kind of saw red the tea leaves there on

1082
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: the last preseason game in terms of the return man competition.

1083
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 3: Once we saw Leaviska Chanault out there in the second

1084
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: half playing at the end of the game, it was

1085
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: pretty obvious that.

1086
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: Codrington was going to be the primary return man for

1087
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: I see.

1088
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: I don't think it was Codrington that got Chanalt cut.

1089
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 4: I think was the receiver room that got Chanalt cut.

1090
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: I could see that.

1092
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: I never felt like Joe Brady could find a proper

1093
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: role for him at the position number one.

1094
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he could find a unique role

1095
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: for him.

1096
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's kind of what I mean.

1097
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: He's got multiple guys at what Chenault can do. Well,

1098
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 4: got big bodies and he's got gadget guys, you know.

1099
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: Right, Samuel being a prime.

1100
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: Example here, and Samuel's both so that was.

1101
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: Working against him.

1102
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 3: And then he had a mental error in a coverage

1103
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: unit play at Tampa Bay.

1104
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: He did not keep outside contained.

1105
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: The return man got outside of him, and he's running

1106
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: up the sidelines out to midfield. So you can't have those,

1107
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: you know, right around roster cut time, just can't. So

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00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: Brandon Coddrington is your return man. And I'll say this

1109
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 3: about Calddrington, and we talked about it on this show

1110
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: last year when he was a rookie return Like last year,

1111
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: at this time, the Bills had just executed a trade

1112
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: to acquire Brandon Coddrington from the Jets.

1113
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: And he Waltz is.

1114
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: In here with one hundred and twenty returns under his

1115
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: belt in college and looks like a seasoned veteran out

1116
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: there in terms of his decision making. I mean, I

1117
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 3: can only think of one time that he didn't make

1118
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: the best decision trying to feel the ball that was

1119
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: a little short in India and he bobbled it.

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00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: That was about it.

1121
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: But I'll say this, yeah, I've set it a ton.

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00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: Decision making is the most unique trait one of those

1123
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: guys can have. Everybody when you get when you catch

1124
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: the kick and start to run, all these guys are phenomenal, right,

1125
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: They're they're made for it. They're all dynamite with the

1126
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 4: ball in their hands, but making decisions about when to

1127
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 4: catch it, when to let it drop.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing.

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: The decision making is this difference maker, and Codrington rarely misses.

1130
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: He's a really good decision maker, and that's why he's valuable.

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones and to Bobby and Buffalo.

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00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 11: What's up, Bobby, Hey, guys, how you doing today?

1133
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: Good? Good?

1134
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 11: Good? Listen. I want I want to ask. I want

1135
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 11: to answer the question in regards to what would I

1136
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 11: change about the fifty three man roster. First of all,

1137
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 11: number one, I had another quarterback on there because the

1138
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 11: guy Shane Brussel, the guy that worked the yeah where

1139
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 11: six Yeah man, he had a monster game against Tampa. Okay,

1140
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 11: I would definitely add him on to the fifty three

1141
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 11: man roster to back up Josh and uh Trubsky. Okay,

1142
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 11: I would definitely add him on. Get him some reps,

1143
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 11: and get him all prepped up. Okay, that's all I

1144
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 11: had today. Guys, God bless, have a good day.

1145
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: Well, I understand your affection for Shane Bouchelle, Bobby. They

1147
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 3: can do all of the stuff you just said with

1148
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: where he sits right now, which is on the practice squad.

1149
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: He can get all the reps he wants.

1150
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: He'll run scout team during the week, and he'll be

1151
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: in all the meetings with the other two quarterbacks throughout

1152
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: the course of the.

1153
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: I would contend that the game that Shane Bouchelle put

1154
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: together in Tampa Bay, I would argue, I don't know

1155
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: that I could bolster it, but he had the best

1156
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: preseason game of any player on the roster at any game,

1157
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: in any time. He was the best player in the

1158
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: preseason for the Bills because of his game in Tampa Bay.

1159
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 4: Shavers was there. He produced all throughout camp. Yeah, other

1160
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: guys played, you know, Dion Walker flashed a couple of plays,

1161
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: but game in game out, from start to finish, Shane

1162
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: Bouchelle was on it in Tampa Bay twenty five of

1163
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: thirty for two eighty seven and a touchdown, plus he

1164
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: ran fifty two yards on three attempts.

1165
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: The guy did.

1166
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Speaker 4: Everything you wanted wanted a quarterback to do in that game.

1167
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: That's why he's here. You know, certainly he doesn't have

1168
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: the arm Josh does and all of that, and you

1169
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 4: can go on and on, but in the game they

1170
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: gave him to play, he killed it.

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00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did really well.

1172
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: We've we got to take an early break here so

1173
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: we can give you the Brandon Being press conference in

1174
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: its entirety when he starts at the bottom of the hour.

1175
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: So a quick break here back to more phone calls.

1176
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: So Kevin and Williamsville, Dave on a sale will get

1177
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: to you when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: presented by co Lot of Health.

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01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One

1180
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

1181
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: Asking you about the fifty three man roster that the

1182
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 3: Bills have initially set and.

1183
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: If you would have done anything differently, let us know.

1184
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: At eighth three, five fifty two, Kevin and Williamsville, we go.

1185
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: What's up, Kevin, guys, how are you doing today?

1186
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: Good?

1187
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 12: You know, I did a little research, and I was

1188
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 12: curious to know, since this is cut week, what Hall

1189
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 12: of Fame players were cut their rookie season during preseason

1190
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 12: just about this time. And it was very interesting to

1191
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 12: find out that Johnny Unitis was cut by the Steelers

1192
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame player, Steve Largent with the Oilers, Dick

1193
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 12: lebou by the Browns, John Randall by the Buccaneers, Kurt

1194
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 12: Warner Packers, and so on. Found all that to be

1195
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 12: kind of interesting. I wanted to a chair with you,

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01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 12: But just this morning, I learned that the thousand players

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01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 12: give or take, that are being cut this week, only

1198
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 12: three to four percent, or thirty to forty of those

1199
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Speaker 12: players ever came back and made it in the NFL.

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 12: And I'm curious that leaves you with about nine hundred

1201
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 12: and seventy, give or take, players that never played in

1202
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 12: the NFL. And are we drafting too many players? Are

1203
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 12: there too many rounds being drafted, players being drafted during

1204
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 12: that period of time, And I'm just curious to hear

1205
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 12: your response and your feedback on that.

1206
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting topic, Kevin. I think there are

1207
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: a couple of things that play here, Steve, and you

1208
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,959
Speaker 3: tell me if you feel differently. I think first, any

1209
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: general manager in this league that's worth their salt would

1210
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: tell you they make the best decisions they possibly can

1211
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: based on the information they have gathered on all of

1212
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: these players, not just from their own eyeballs, but an

1213
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: entire personnel staff and coaching staff. And any GM in

1214
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: this league will tell you we don't always.

1215
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: Get it right. We're not perfect. They're human.

1216
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: Some of the calls they make are not going to

1217
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: be right. I don't think they're drafting too many players.

1218
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: And I think the reason why the league has it

1219
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: set up the way they do in you know, seven rounds,

1220
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: draft in seven to ten players, depending on how many

1221
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: picks you have. Why practice squads are larger, it's because

1222
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: you don't have a minor league system for NFL football.

1223
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: You want to get as many players onboarded as possible

1224
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: develop them as best you can. Because you only have

1225
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: seven ten draft picks a year, if you're tight against

1226
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: the cap, you're gonna be limited in your free agent spending.

1227
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: You need other avenues to develop and add players to

1228
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: your roster. And so I don't think. I don't think

1229
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: the draft's going away in terms of how it's currently

1230
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: constituted at all. And I don't think they are drafting

1231
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: too many players. They need guys in the pipeline.

1232
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 4: Years ago, I had a high level executive and we

1233
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: brought up the concept of expansion in the NFL. This

1234
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: is after they went to thirty two. Obviously, it was

1235
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 4: like sometime after nineteen ninety five, and we're talking, it's

1236
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 4: been a long time for me, he said. He goes,

1237
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 4: we're not expanding. I not even like, what about Europe?

1238
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 4: And then he goes, he goes. There are not enough

1239
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: good football players to expand to new more teams. They

1240
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: can't find enough quality offensive line, they can't find enough

1241
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 4: quality defensive lineman. There are not enough football players to

1242
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 4: go around for eight NFL teams. There's just not enough

1243
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 4: guys because the drop off becomes sharp. And for a

1244
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 4: number of reasons, there's certainly enough big guys out there.

1245
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: We've you've seen it here. We've they've cut you know,

1246
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: ten big guys from this squad, and they'll be like

1247
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: that for all the other other teams, other teams as well.

1248
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, those guys don't play either they're

1249
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 4: not strong enough, durable enough, they don't want to play

1250
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 4: badly enough. They for whatever reason, they can't pick up

1251
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 4: the offense, don't pick up the offense, don't want to

1252
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: do what it takes. It's whatever's it's different reasons for

1253
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 4: all of them. But there are not enough guys offensive

1254
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: linemen to go around. It's that simple. So they're gonna

1255
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 4: keep drafting as many guys as they draft, and plus

1256
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 4: the thousand guys that are off the field this year

1257
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: that come back and they go through the offseason workouts

1258
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 4: and stuff for next year, trying to make a team

1259
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 4: next year, Well, there's gonna be another five hundred or

1260
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: seven hundred new guys coming out of the college ranks

1261
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 4: that they don't know that do have an upside, and

1262
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 4: they're gonna say, we I'm gonna take a chance on

1263
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: the guy that we know might be able to do

1264
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 4: it because he's he's just as big, just as strong,

1265
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 4: just as fast, and this guy hasn't been able to

1266
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 4: do it yet. We're gonna give a new guy a chance.

1267
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 4: So they wash through guys fast and what. They don't

1268
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 4: always get it right, but they most of the time.

1269
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: You got to know, they bet their jobs on getting

1270
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 4: it right because they have to get it right or

1271
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 4: they get fired.

1272
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: Break time for us here.

1273
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll bring you Brandon Bean's press

1274
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: conference as he addresses the decision made to establish the

1275
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: fifty three man roster and that sixteen player practice squad.

1276
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: When we return here on One Bill's Live.

1277
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Speaker 3: Stay with us all right back here on One Bill's Live.

1278
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you as we await at

1279
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: the beginning of the Brandon Bean press conference as he

1280
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 3: addresses the decisions made to establish the fifty three man

1281
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: roster in addition to the sixteen player practice squad that

1282
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 3: was just announced.

1283
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 2: Earlier this hour.

1284
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: In the event that you did not hear those names

1285
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: and you're just joining US Buffalo's practice squad as it

1286
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 3: currently exists, is as follows. Quarterback Shane Bouchelle, running back

1287
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: Frank Gore, junior wide receivers Stephen Gosnell and Christian Wilkerson,

1288
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 3: tight end Kalecki Latu, offensive lineman Travis Clayton, Dan Feeney,

1289
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: Kendrick Green, Defensive tackles Zion Logan, Jordan Phillips, linebackers Jimmy

1290
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Charlow and Keante Jenkins, corners Daikwon Hardy and Dan Jackson,

1291
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: and the safeties are Jordan Poyer and Sam Franklin. Brandon

1292
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: Bean is ready now, so let's go there to his

1293
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: press conference.

1294
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 9: Real quick.

1295
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 13: I just want to obviously a lot of moves since

1296
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 13: we last saw you guys in Tampa, and first off,

1297
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 13: just want to thank all the guys. You know, it's

1298
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 13: it's no fun for them, you know, and you just

1299
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 13: appreciate what these guys have all done and fault. Some

1300
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 13: of these guys have been here for two weeks, some

1301
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 13: of them for two months, some of them for a

1302
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 13: couple of years.

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 9: Maybe they were drafted.

1304
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 13: They fought last year and another camp and it didn't

1305
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 13: work out. Obviously, today is there is some positivity. You

1306
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 13: can bring a bunch of these guys back, which is

1307
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 13: which is rewarding and fun and gives them, gives them life,

1308
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 13: gives them another opportunity here and you know, with the

1309
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 13: rules now it's fun because you can elevate these guys

1310
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 13: on game day. So we make sure all sixteen seventeen

1311
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 13: count the International are ready to roll. But anyway, just

1312
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 13: before we get started, I just wanted to thank all

1313
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 13: those those players for all they they gave us during

1314
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 13: their time here. And it's onto the next phase, which

1315
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 13: is preparing for Week one versus Baltimore.

1316
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 9: Brit You have Tredavius White on the initial fifty three.

1317
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 9: Do you have an update on him and where he's

1318
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 9: at with the injury?

1319
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 13: Not much, Matt, just we're rehabbing him, you know, as

1320
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 13: much as we can. And Trey's got a he's got

1321
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 13: a great attitude, he's attacking it and really other than that,

1322
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 13: we're just gonna take it, you know, day by day,

1323
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 13: I guess and kind of see where that goes. I'm

1324
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 13: sure as we get into next week, Wednesday, I think

1325
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 13: is the first day that an injury report will we do,

1326
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 13: so we'll see what it is, whether he can practice

1327
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 13: any or not, or what that what that looks like

1328
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 13: at that time.

1329
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 12: To bring back Jordan, both Jordan's Phillips and Employer.

1330
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, both jps, and we've had a lot of history

1331
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 13: with with both of those guys. Both of them have

1332
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 13: had great impacts here first off on the field, but

1333
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 13: as you guys know, culture, character, leadership, all those things.

1334
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 9: You can't find enough guys like that.

1335
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 13: And when you got guys you know in this case

1336
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 13: who have given so much and been a part of

1337
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 13: the success we've had here that want to come back

1338
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,959
Speaker 13: and you know, be on the practice squad, prepare themselves

1339
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 13: to play if and when called on, but also mentor

1340
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 13: guys around them, young guys, young vets, whatever it is.

1341
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 9: I just think that's again, we don't have a minor league.

1342
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 13: You can't send guys down to you know, a Rochester

1343
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 13: or whatever whatever your Triple A team would be in

1344
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 13: another sport. And so the practice squad is very important

1345
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 13: for a lot of reasons. It's development and having those guys.

1346
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 13: But now with the rules, since COVID being able to

1347
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 13: have vets on there, I think it's one of the

1348
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 13: best things our league has done. Not only so they

1349
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 13: can help you on the field, but you know, a

1350
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 13: coach can coach, I can talk to someone, but a

1351
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 13: player who's been there on the field, that's a different

1352
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 13: impact to put your arm around a rookie or a

1353
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 13: young player.

1354
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 14: What is the plan being case Trey can't practice next

1355
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 14: week for a week one?

1356
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 9: Oh, we just we got other guys that we believe in.

1357
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 13: So the other guys on the fifty three, and then

1358
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 13: we'll have the guys on the practice squad ready to roll.

1359
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 13: And we're very confident in who we have and obviously

1360
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 13: our medical team and Trey will do everything they can

1361
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 13: to be ready for Baltimore.

1362
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 9: I'm you guys.

1363
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 13: Know Trey, and he's been through a couple of things.

1364
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 13: Luckily you know this is not any type of season

1365
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 13: ending thing. He's he's preparing and yeah, well, like I said,

1366
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 13: we'll take it one day.

1367
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 9: At a time.

1368
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 15: Just to be clear there, Brandon, it sounds like you're

1369
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 15: not ruling them out for week one, that there is

1370
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 15: a possibility.

1371
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 9: I'm not ruling them out.

1372
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 11: No, yeah, putting Max and Alan on air.

1373
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: What went into those.

1374
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 9: Decisions, Well, we'll start with Max.

1375
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 13: Obviously, unfortun what happened to him back at Saint John Fisher,

1376
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 13: and so we're just we knew it would be a

1377
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 13: decision at the time. You know, I would love for

1378
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 13: the docs and the medical team to say, yes, he

1379
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 13: is ready full go, but he's not. And now you're

1380
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 13: talking about even if you're ready to ramp him up soon,

1381
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 13: he hasn't played football in over a month, and there's

1382
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 13: a certain callous.

1383
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: That you have to be.

1384
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 13: So it's like, all right, if that takes a week

1385
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 13: or two. Now you're into week three or week you

1386
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 13: know what I mean. So you're just you're trying to

1387
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 13: be smart. We obviously invested him, we believe in him,

1388
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 13: and you know, he's just taking it one day at

1389
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 13: a time, and so really that's it, Like, let's let's

1390
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 13: give him every chance. Let's give him another basically a

1391
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 13: month to get that much further healed, and we'll rehab

1392
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 13: the heck out of it. We can start practicing him

1393
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 13: as soon as week five begins.

1394
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm.

1395
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 13: Obviously promises at this point we'll see where he's at,

1396
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 13: but hopefully, hopefully he's he's ready to go at that

1397
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 13: point to at least start practicing is our goal. Oh

1398
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 13: and what did you say, Oh, he's still in the

1399
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 13: concussion protocol.

1400
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1401
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 9: Sorry.

1402
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 16: See, we've known about Jordan Phillips at least for a

1403
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 16: couple of days. There was the initial report. But Jordan Poyer,

1404
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 16: you know, I think some fans were probably a bit

1405
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 16: surprised by that. Obviously he's got a lot of experience here,

1406
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 16: but how much of this is the young safeties and

1407
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 16: the questions there and how much he can provide them

1408
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,480
Speaker 16: as like a mentor.

1409
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: And a coach.

1410
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's a lot of it. I think Listen,

1411
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 13: Jordan and I are initially spoke. I think he talked

1412
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 13: to Sean and Bobby separately around the same time, all

1413
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 13: the way back in May, and we had conversations about,

1414
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 13: you know, what does he want next? What does he

1415
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 13: does he want to play? Does he not want to play?

1416
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 13: All those things, and you know, we we connected again

1417
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 13: when we got to Saint John Fisher, and so we've had.

1418
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 9: A lot of dialogue.

1419
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 13: You know, I appreciate, you know, him and us keeping

1420
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 13: that between us until we decided to do this.

1421
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 9: And we talked all along that this may be a

1422
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 9: very good option.

1423
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 13: He's obviously got to make sure he's in shape to play,

1424
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 13: you know, and be ready if it happens, But yes,

1425
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 13: he's excited about Also the question you asked Matt about

1426
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 13: pouring into the other guys and not necessarily just the DBS,

1427
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 13: just what this defense is about with the you know,

1428
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 13: the things that we talk about, toughness and edge and

1429
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 13: just personality.

1430
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 9: And all the things and how do you watch film.

1431
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 13: There's just so many things that you can pick up

1432
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 13: from a Jordan Poyer or Jordan Phillips, Jordan's.

1433
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: List to mentor more.

1434
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 13: Does that signal any concern with the safety group that

1435
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 13: you have right now?

1436
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 9: Nop, Just you just wouldn't.

1437
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 13: Anytime you could add you could have you could have

1438
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 13: two five year starters. But if Jordan Poyer is around,

1439
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 13: what he's done for our team and he's like, yes,

1440
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 13: I would love to be a part of this, those

1441
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 13: five year players would be like, yes, I'd love to

1442
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 13: have Jordan Poyer too.

1443
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,879
Speaker 9: So that's that's really it.

1444
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 14: The decision to keep tyro Awl Shavers after who's not

1445
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 14: an out door last year.

1446
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 9: Well just went into that.

1447
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 13: Maybe what was the moment like told yeah, I mean

1448
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 13: Shaves is uh, he's worked so hard and you know,

1449
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 13: you pull for all these guys as I started this,

1450
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 13: this presser was just your you really appreciate and you

1451
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 13: know you also at the same time feel bad for

1452
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 13: the guys that just came up on the other side

1453
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 13: of the line just just short for whatever reason. Numbers

1454
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 13: fit what you know, couldn't squeeze. But fifty three is

1455
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 13: the rule. But Shaves has worked so hard. You know,

1456
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 13: I commend him, not only I think he's continued to

1457
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 13: improve his game and his feel for our offense, his

1458
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 13: connection with our quarterbacks, but special teams. We really have

1459
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 13: stressed to him since he's been here, if you're not

1460
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 13: trotting out with the starting group and playing starter reps

1461
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 13: that if you can help on fourth down, you know,

1462
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 13: at least a couple of phases, the more the better.

1463
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 13: But if you can at least do that and have

1464
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 13: some type of impact, that helps us get you onto

1465
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 13: this fifty three because when we get the game day,

1466
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 13: we only get dress forty eight, and so we've got

1467
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 13: to make sure every part of the kicking game is

1468
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 13: covered as well, and I think Shaves has shown that

1469
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 13: he's earned that opportunity. You know, he'll tell you before

1470
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 13: I tell you, there's still you know, he's still got

1471
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 13: to continue to work and grow and improve. But we

1472
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 13: have a lot of confidence. Joe Brady has confidence him,

1473
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 13: Chris Taber has confidence him, and Sean McDermott do.

1474
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 9: And ultimately.

1475
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 13: That's why we made the decision to keep him on

1476
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 13: our fifty three to bringing Shane back.

1477
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: And obviously Mike is the odd man out.

1478
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 13: I guess out of four quarternus, Yeah, I mean, listen,

1479
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 13: those are tough. Hard to hold four quarterbacks, whether you

1480
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 13: do two on the practice squad and two on the

1481
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 13: active or three.

1482
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 9: And one just from a number.

1483
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 13: So you got to make decisions and not easy, like

1484
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 13: I thought.

1485
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 9: All those guys.

1486
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 13: You know, had had good moments, but just like I

1487
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 13: was saying there with whereas Shaves has been on this

1488
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 13: side of the line before this year, he's he's on

1489
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 13: the other side of the line and tough decisions. You know,

1490
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 13: I'll say, Mike White can play in this league. We

1491
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 13: would not hesitate to call Mike White back here, and

1492
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 13: we loved our time with him. He got here literally

1493
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 13: a year ago now and signed our practice squad and

1494
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 13: was an integral part. You know, I know Josh and

1495
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 13: R c Ronald Curry and Joe Brady and Sean and

1496
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 13: I know myself for all and that quarterback room was

1497
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 13: appreciative of what he did here. And just because he's

1498
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 13: not here now doesn't mean, you know, we wouldn't call

1499
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 13: him in the future. As far as Shane tough injury

1500
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 13: last year knocked him out, you know, we had him

1501
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 13: the previous year.

1502
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 9: And we're excited about where he was kind.

1503
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 13: Of lost a year, But I say, the young man

1504
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 13: when he got healthy with that neck, really worked on

1505
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 13: the side the best he could. We traveled him on

1506
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 13: the road just to be on the sidelines and be involved.

1507
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 13: And you know, I thought this year you saw him

1508
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 13: take a step from a year ago, and as a

1509
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 13: young man you want to keep developing. But tough decisions excited,

1510
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 13: you know, with our quarterback room where it's at, and

1511
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 13: you know, hopefully Mike lands in a good spot, but

1512
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 13: we wouldn't hesitate to bring him back the Shavers.

1513
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 8: Did it help?

1514
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 16: Did it strengthen his case that his skill side is

1515
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 16: just it's different from what you got you get can

1516
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 16: get from Curtis and Elijah in particular.

1517
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think you have to consider everything.

1518
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 13: You have to consider what's the position flexibility, not only fit,

1519
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 13: but mentally.

1520
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 9: Shave is a very smart guy. He can line up.

1521
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 13: Just because I have the skill set to line up

1522
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 13: inside or out doesn't mean I can mentally do that.

1523
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 9: Even on a drive.

1524
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 13: You know how the play is called in the huddle,

1525
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 13: you know where it's whether it's flipped or not. So

1526
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 13: that's very important. And then again we emphasize run game too.

1527
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 13: You're talking about a bigger body. You know, we we

1528
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 13: want all our guys. You know, however you want to say,

1529
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 13: there's slogans out there, no no block, no rock or

1530
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 13: whatever your your your.

1531
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 9: Jargon is all those things.

1532
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 13: Shave is a team player, whether it's the run game,

1533
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 13: running a guy off to clear out for someone else,

1534
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 13: or whether he needs to run the slant route.

1535
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 9: You know, you guys saw him catch the fade ball

1536
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 9: the other day.

1537
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 13: Like when he's out there, if the defense says throw

1538
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 13: it to Shavers, Josh is gonna let it rip or

1539
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 13: Mitch or whoever's in the game. And there's a lot

1540
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 13: of trust with him. Again, not just with the backup quarterbacks,

1541
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 13: but with number seventeen. And obviously he got a little

1542
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 13: bit of playtime last year, had the big play at

1543
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 13: the end of the I don't remember it was a

1544
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 13: Jets game maybe, but yeah, I think it's the versatility

1545
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 13: mentally smart, physically and mentally tough. And again we talked

1546
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 13: about his improvement on special teams.

1547
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: He's alluded to it there a little bit.

1548
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 15: But I've had a fair amount of turnover in that room,

1549
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 15: the wide receiver room. What's your confidence level that week one,

1550
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 15: these guys are going to be where they need to

1551
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 15: be in terms of chemistry with Josh, Yeah, I.

1552
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 13: Think it's you know, we haven't had them all in

1553
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 13: there at the same time. You know, I think Josh

1554
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 13: is very very confident. With Shakir, let's just start there.

1555
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 13: I know he's missed the most time. He's working his

1556
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 13: way back now and I think those two guys, you know,

1557
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 13: not long after he got here, there's just a natural

1558
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 13: feel Shakir. You know, Khalil does a great job of

1559
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 13: some guys have it, some guys don't have.

1560
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 9: Just given the quarterback the feel, the read where he.

1561
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 13: Knows, like Cole Beasley had that where you know, there's

1562
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 13: not a lot of guys that have it at that

1563
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 13: high of a level. I would say Khalil, that's one

1564
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 13: of his strengths is Josh can read him in his route,

1565
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 13: you know, and some of those options what he's thinking.

1566
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 13: And I think they they will be right back on

1567
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 13: the same page together. I think Keon has been out

1568
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 13: there and played a lot, and they've really continued to ascend.

1569
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 9: You know.

1570
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 13: I thought Palmer and Elijah Moore both in the you

1571
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 13: know you all that were at the Chicago scrimmage against

1572
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 13: that team. You know, I thought those guys really stood

1573
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 13: out as making plays there. And Curtis unfortunately was uh

1574
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 13: you know, we were planning to play him in the

1575
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 13: last game he got sick and.

1576
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 9: So, you know, but at least he was here last year.

1577
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 13: If he wasn't here last year, I'd say that's probably

1578
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 13: the biggest question mark. But Josh has to feel for him.

1579
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 13: They'll have to get that timing back a little bit.

1580
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 13: And Shaves has been here for a couple of year

1581
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 13: or so and Josh has thrown to him. So I feel,

1582
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 13: you know, we have to go out and do.

1583
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 9: It and prove it.

1584
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 13: Jay, So I'm not gonna sit here and say, you know,

1585
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 13: there's not going to be any bumps along the way, but.

1586
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 9: You know, we feel good with where it's at.

1587
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 17: Brandon, on your defensive line, interior defensive line, your death

1588
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 17: is rookies and a young guy like Dwayne Carter. You

1589
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 17: must have or it feels like you have confidence that

1590
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 17: those guys can step in in this early part of

1591
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 17: the season and help you.

1592
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, we do, we do. We knew coming into this year.

1593
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 13: We have kind of an infusion of youth in various spots,

1594
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 13: most specifically Mike in the in the D line, and drafting,

1595
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 13: especially in tiers you were talking about.

1596
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 9: We drafted Dwayne a year ago. Uh so he's a

1597
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,480
Speaker 9: second year player.

1598
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 13: And then draft tj And and Dion this year, ed

1599
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 13: and and Deakwon.

1600
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 9: Have you know.

1601
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 13: They're they're they're the starters as it stands now, but

1602
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 13: we rotate those guys so much. So, yes, we need

1603
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 13: them to get ready, and that's why we emphasize, hey,

1604
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 13: you got to get ready now, like you're going to

1605
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 13: play in meaningful games coming up and the preseason's over.

1606
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 13: We need them to continue to ascend. As I was

1607
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 13: saying to Jay, there's gonna be some bumps along the way.

1608
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 9: You know that, but.

1609
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 13: Hopefully you know not only their individual play, but it

1610
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 13: helps our team plays as we progress into the season

1611
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 13: week after week.

1612
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 8: Much how much of.

1613
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 18: You talked about how much you appreciate the practice squad

1614
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 18: of rules changing, how much of keeping the two or

1615
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 18: bringing two Jordan's back is when you look at the

1616
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 18: sixty eight or six n guy in the roster, you're

1617
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 18: better off with players who have experienced, especially experience here

1618
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 18: as opposed to a younger guy to no offense.

1619
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 13: To them, who might be more of a lot of

1620
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 13: eth Yeah, I mean that's the That's the exact rub there,

1621
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 13: that like, do I want to move, you know, move

1622
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 13: on from this guy and not take a chance that

1623
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 13: his lottery ticket may develop in one to two seasons

1624
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 13: versus taking a guy like that that can help grow

1625
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 13: some other guys that you already believe in at a

1626
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 13: certain level and maybe they can help from their perspective,

1627
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 13: grow them a little faster and their impact in the

1628
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 13: game now.

1629
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 9: But it's.

1630
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 13: It is the exact question, thad, like, we don't want

1631
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 13: to stunt someone's growth. We don't want to pass on someone.

1632
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 13: You know, It's like in baseball, you got some prospect

1633
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 13: that's throwing ninety five and is going to be a

1634
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 13: you know, in some team trades a thirty eight year

1635
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 13: old just for three months and for the next fifteen years.

1636
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 13: You know, you wouldn't want to do something like that.

1637
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 13: But I think those are the decisions that we are weighing.

1638
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 13: Exactly what you said, and we just feel that the

1639
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 13: two Jordan's in this particular case, Micah last year, I

1640
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 13: think we brought him in after Thanksgiving, very same thing,

1641
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 13: just being here. How we practice, how we prepare for practice,

1642
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 13: the things we do on and off the field with

1643
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 13: our body, how we watch film, how you know, sitting

1644
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 13: in there with you know, if you're using ployers, sitting

1645
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 13: in there with t Rap and Cole and Damar and

1646
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 13: that group, cam lewis watching, you know, an opponent and

1647
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 13: seeing what he sees. Maybe it's exactly what the coach sees.

1648
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 13: Maybe it's a little different. You know, there's always gonna

1649
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 13: be a little.

1650
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 9: Different feel for guys who have actually had to do it.

1651
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 9: In between the white lines.

1652
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 13: Duel Alexander John Schools reference exactly what my question is

1653
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 13: almost the same as that, But what is the calculus of.

1654
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 8: When you sign a guy.

1655
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 14: Back in February March, or when you're lying.

1656
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: And knowing that he's probably on a practice squad.

1657
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: You're going to have him come in and compete, but

1658
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: you're a he's a.

1659
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 13: Veteran guy who is going to be in your system

1660
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 13: for the purpose of in five months practice squad.

1661
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 9: How has the has changed the.

1662
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: Way you know?

1663
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 10: Kind of that part.

1664
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it goes into your definitely thinking about

1665
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 13: that when you're because you haven't even had the draft yet,

1666
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 13: and so when you sign a guy sometimes in March,

1667
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 13: you know a lot of people would say, hey, you

1668
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 13: should have the draft first and then free agency, and

1669
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 13: there's there's some validity to that, but the rules are

1670
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 13: the way they are, and so you're signing guys to

1671
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 13: help give you depth and depending on how the draft falls,

1672
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 13: if you land a position, a player at that position

1673
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 13: or maybe two, now you're going he's probably on the

1674
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 13: outside looking in, but with these rules, maybe he can

1675
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 13: help mentor these guys on the other side. If I

1676
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 13: have some depth here and the draft doesn't fall the

1677
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 13: way I want, or you know, you draft him player

1678
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 13: there and he's just not ready. Now you've got a

1679
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 13: veteran the fallback. So those are definitely conversations we're having

1680
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 13: as we fill the ninety man prior to the draft

1681
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 13: and then post draft there's sometimes we do that as well, like, hey,

1682
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 13: we we the draft didn't fall away, we probably still

1683
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 13: need to add a depth offensive guard, center.

1684
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,520
Speaker 9: Or what you know, whatever it may be.

1685
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: I think the only guy who is new, the only

1686
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 4: anything about it is Sam Franklin.

1687
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: Can you tell us about.

1688
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean Sam, he's one of those classic players,

1689
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 13: Uh tough, He's a safety by position, but he's made

1690
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 13: his name on special teams in this league and and

1691
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 13: so a standout gunner, uh kick cover player and and

1692
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,919
Speaker 13: so he's a guy that you know, as of yesterday,

1693
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 13: you start hearing comes came available uh as the cuts

1694
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 13: were occurring, so you start calling back through his film.

1695
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 13: Chris Tabor had him in Carolina as well, so there

1696
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 13: was some familiarity. He was a player we've talked about

1697
01:26:55,800 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 13: here in the past. And yeah, you know, once once

1698
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 13: the waiver wire comes out and you see it's legit,

1699
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 13: you start make connecting dots and put your recruiting hat on.

1700
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 13: So excited to add add Sam and uh into into

1701
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 13: the mix and you know, we'll again, we'll take it

1702
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 13: day by day and see how quickly we can get

1703
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 13: him up to speed.

1704
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,959
Speaker 14: To clarify, Phillips, Jordan and Jordan player and Jordan Phillips

1705
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 14: how ready how far removed are they from being ready

1706
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 14: to play?

1707
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: In your opinion?

1708
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 14: And I guess just to clarify, this isn't kind of

1709
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 14: like a like a high thing where he's going to

1710
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 14: be mostly too. They're going to be mostly tutoring guys.

1711
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 14: These guys are ready to play.

1712
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we're you know, Micah was at the

1713
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 9: end of the year, so it was kind of these

1714
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 9: are different. You know when you put them on. Now

1715
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 9: you gotta you got to prepare to play. Guy goes down.

1716
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 13: You're so we'll we'll ramp those guys up. They both

1717
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 13: you know, these conversations didn't just happen. They've you know,

1718
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 13: with both players. Jordan Phillips and I spoke all spring long,

1719
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 13: and when we got the training camp, Jordan is all

1720
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 13: over it. I would tell him a certain day to

1721
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 13: check in with me if he hadn't heard from me,

1722
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 13: and Jordan was calling me, so uh that tells you

1723
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 13: how eager.

1724
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 9: He is though.

1725
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 13: And he's loved his time here. We've loved his time here.

1726
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 13: We think he's played his best football and he just

1727
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 13: wants to be part of a winner and help us

1728
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 13: do this. And that's what I love both Jordan's. They

1729
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 13: they they're selfless. Course they're competitive. If you're their numbers called,

1730
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 13: they're going to go out there and do the best.

1731
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 13: But they also understand it's through whatever it takes. Help

1732
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 13: a guy on practice squad, help a guy on active

1733
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 13: help guy prepare for an upcoming opponent. We'll have to

1734
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 13: ramp them up though, just like I was talking about

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01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 13: with with Max.

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01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 9: Part of that decision when you get to theirs.

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01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 13: If you know, if Max was almost ready and had

1738
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 13: only been out a week, he's still in football condition.

1739
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 9: You know these guys have not been calloused up.

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01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 13: It won't be training camp style since we're getting into

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01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 13: regular season mode where you have a lot less padded practices,

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01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 13: but they'll work themselves up. They've been in getting themselves

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01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 13: in shape, and we'll let the medical team and the

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01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 13: strength staff kind of tell us when they think that

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01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 13: is whether that's a couple of weeks, three weeks, I

1746
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 13: don't know, all.

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01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 3: Right, So that's general manager Brandon being addressing the media

1748
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 3: just to review quickly. He said there's no timetable on

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01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: Tredavia's White's lower leg injury, but he is not ruling

1750
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 3: him out for week one. The Hairston decision was rooted

1751
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 3: in needing to still ramp him back up and it

1752
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: was going to take a couple of weeks even if

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01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 3: he came back week two.

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01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: So I are made sense there.

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01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 3: And Jordan Poyer is gonna sit on the practice squad

1756
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 3: and probably stay there unless there's a ration of injuries

1757
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 3: and he needs to get called up.

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01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of pretty self explanatory. At this point,

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01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 4: we were all wringing our hands over what was going

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01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 4: to look like, but here it is.

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01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're ready to go and we'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We'll see on a Thursday edition at one y