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Speaker 1: say it. I'm just like he can, like I told him,

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Speaker 1: he is if he doesn't feel comfortable with something, and

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing like what you may run with

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Speaker 1: one quarterback, you might have some different things for the

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Speaker 1: next quarterback. They're not They're not all the same. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you have two call sheets, but you definitely

435
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Speaker 1: have long discussions with your quarterbacks because they touched the

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Speaker 1: ball on every play. When you get in that rhythm

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Speaker 1: with Daniel in the first unit, how much do you

438
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Speaker 1: look at the line first and realize that. I mean

439
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Speaker 1: it's now two games that that your offensive line looks

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Speaker 1: like it's really starting to gel out there. I know

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Speaker 1: there are probably things to build on when you start

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Speaker 1: breaking down in the film, but no, they again, I

443
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Speaker 1: think they're making progress every day. This was Hamilton's at

444
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Speaker 1: guar now in Garcia, and we felt comfortable. Um, you

445
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Speaker 1: know with Garcia, Florida had something. He played a few

446
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Speaker 1: games in the league and um, you know, I keep

447
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: I kept asking, are you sure you're good? He's saying, yeah,

448
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the big deal? You know, that

449
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Speaker 1: alignment mentality. Um, but that's a testament. I'd say their

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Speaker 1: coaches that that deal with them every day and the

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Speaker 1: players to be flexible. So, um, some good reps out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly a lot to work on the game. In

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Speaker 1: the running game, it looks like the design, especially down

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Speaker 1: at the goal line at the line was really working

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Speaker 1: well together versus just kind of out there as Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I told Mike, let's not have many

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Speaker 1: runs like in the second half, Like, let's not come

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Speaker 1: up with all these designs him and Bobby. Let's have

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Speaker 1: a couple of runs and that's it. And so these

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Speaker 1: guys know the combination blocks or the down block, whatever

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Speaker 1: we gotta call that. We're all on the same page

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Speaker 1: based on the players coming in, when they've come in

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Speaker 1: and the positions that they played. I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: those guys a lot of credit there for you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris and Holding and Big roy Um. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it was good to see you feel like already you

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Speaker 1: ruled out something to bear. I know there's more test coming. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't answer that yet, pat Um. I think they'll

469
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Speaker 1: to the test Tonite MRIs and stuff like that and

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Speaker 1: get a better feel for it in the morning. Hope not.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know the answer to that yet. Last

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Speaker 1: one pay all your starters healthy, uh except same. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we went into that decision for him back

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Speaker 1: and what everyone else out there. Yeah, I just thought

475
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Speaker 1: it was probably best for the team. He's had a

476
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Speaker 1: really good camp and gave him the night off. Basically, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have a lot of confidence he's he's

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Speaker 1: taking a lot of reps um, he's had some physical practices.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to see both Antonio and Corbyn tonight

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Speaker 1: running behind you know, our first line, so to speak. Um,

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Speaker 1: So the amount of plays he would have just went

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Speaker 1: in there, We're only gonna be a few anyways, So

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Speaker 1: I made the decision to just hold them. Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Brian Table speaking to the media after the Giants victory

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Speaker 1: over the Bengals. We will step beside when we come back,

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Speaker 1: will continue to break down the Giant second preseason victory

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Speaker 1: and some of the tough decisions the coaching staff will

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Speaker 1: have to make it various positions. We'll be back right

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Speaker 1: we welcome you back to Pepsi Giants extra point. He's

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Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles. I'm Lance Meado recapping the Giants victory over

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in preseason game number two. Let's run you

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Speaker 1: through tonight's statistics, brought to you by Pepsi Giants. Watching

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, as they had three quarterbacks enter tonight's game.

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Speaker 1: Davis Webb twenty two of twenty seven tortured four yards

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Speaker 1: to touchdowns to Alex Bachman. Daniel Jones started the game

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Speaker 1: fourteen of sixteen for a hundred sixteen yards. He had

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Speaker 1: an interception off of the fingertips of tight end Daniel Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor seven of eleven for thirty seven yards. On

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Speaker 1: the ground, they ran the ball twenty times for sixty

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Speaker 1: seven yards. It was undrafted rookie j Shawn Corbin leading

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Speaker 1: away with nine carries for twenty seven yards and the

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Speaker 1: score we mentioned Alex Bachman. He was clearly their top

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Speaker 1: receiver eleven receptions twenty two yards to touchdowns. David Sills

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Speaker 1: very productive five for fifty six. An Tonio Williams served

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Speaker 1: as a receiver out of the backfield He had seven

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Speaker 1: receptions for forty six yards and Colin Johnson with three

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Speaker 1: for forty one. On the defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 1: was Michael McFadden the leading tackler with five three solo

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Speaker 1: and Darren Evans the safety out of l s U

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Speaker 1: with four tackles and one past defense. The Bengals, they

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Speaker 1: did not play Joe Burrow as well as the majority

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Speaker 1: of their starters. Brandon Allen started the game. He was

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Speaker 1: fourteen of twenty for a hundred five yards. They ran

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Speaker 1: the ball twenty two times for sixty nine yards, and

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Speaker 1: it was Kwamie Lasseter the second with seven catchers for

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Speaker 1: ninety one yards to lead the way. Jeff One of

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Speaker 1: the things that Briant Table talked about in the postgame

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Speaker 1: presser was the challenge tonight not having much continuity on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, playing guys out of position, and how

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Speaker 1: he told Mike Kafka, Listen, let's not make the play

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Speaker 1: calling too complex. Tonight, have two or three run plays

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Speaker 1: and just get the guys comfortable, try to pound the football,

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Speaker 1: and it seemed as if they were trying to at

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Speaker 1: least keep things very basic, to just get through the fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: You know, these injuries just started to pile up in

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Speaker 1: this last week, so these guys that they have not

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Speaker 1: had a lot of practice time together. And not only that,

540
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Speaker 1: that's you know, the newer guys are just learning the playbook. So, um,

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Speaker 1: this offense you're gonna see during the regular season is

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Speaker 1: going to show you a lot of shifts and motions.

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Speaker 1: And you know, an offense does that to get in

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Speaker 1: a situation where they're you're trying to win the one

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Speaker 1: on one matchups, and that's why they move out of

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Speaker 1: position a lot. Today. You just saw a couple of

547
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Speaker 1: little motions here and there, but you know, for the

548
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Speaker 1: most part, that came out in the based offense and

549
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Speaker 1: just ran the plays um And that's good because they

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Speaker 1: ran the place well against the defense that you know,

551
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: a lot of their starters weren't in there. But the

552
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Speaker 1: bottom line is that these guys got to compete and

553
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Speaker 1: it makes it a little easier for them and this

554
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Speaker 1: coaching staff has told you before, Um, there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of game planning that goes into preseason, but they're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to put the players in the best position

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Speaker 1: to make plays and and those plays are run to

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Speaker 1: a point where you have your progressions as a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and if you're the first receiver to get open, you're

560
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Speaker 1: gonna get the football. And I think that Alex Bachman

561
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Speaker 1: was probably the first receiver and a lot of those

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Speaker 1: because he had a lot of plays today. Um and

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Speaker 1: David's Web and him were certainly, you know, in in

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Speaker 1: in sync, that's for sure. And the same thing could

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Speaker 1: be said about Daniel Jones and David Sills. Ay they

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Speaker 1: have a track record of history together. Sills has worked

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones in the off season. They've spent a

568
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Speaker 1: lot of time and you could clearly see that that's

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Speaker 1: now paying off big time here in the preseason. Sills

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Speaker 1: is interesting because here's a receiver Jeff with size compared

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the group, right, So he comes

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Speaker 1: from more of the Kenny Golladay school of thought. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's Kenny Gollady, but he's got no frame.

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Speaker 1: He's got So the question is, though, do you have

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Speaker 1: room slash the desire to keep two wide receivers who

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Speaker 1: have that type of a frame and that type of well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta mention Colin Johnson too, is another

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Speaker 1: guy that has that frame and that size. So you

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Speaker 1: really have three of those guys. And you know, as

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Speaker 1: much of it's it's only fifty three guys on this roster,

581
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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to keep as many guys as you want.

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Speaker 1: But I think that wide receiver position, as we know,

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Speaker 1: and we've been doing this a while lands is the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know there's injuries at that position. It

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Speaker 1: just happens to you know, guys that run and and

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Speaker 1: hamstrings and all that kind of stuff. You know, these

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Speaker 1: are the guys that you know. So you gotta have

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Speaker 1: a little bit of depth on that, on that practice

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Speaker 1: squad for those wide receivers. And certainly if Stills and Bachman,

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Speaker 1: any of those guys don't make the fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: they certainly can go on that practice squad because now

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Speaker 1: they have experience in this offense and you can actually

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Speaker 1: bring in at David Sills or you can bring in

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Speaker 1: a Bachman to replace some of those other guys. If

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Speaker 1: some of those guys get hurt, and it's no surprised

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Speaker 1: that Sills has showcased his athleticism. Remember, he's a former

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Speaker 1: college quarterback at West Virginia, so he offers some versatility

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Speaker 1: as well as just being a wide receiver. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, you you know, if you're a former quarterback, you

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Speaker 1: kind of understand what you're what. You know, what you

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Speaker 1: want out of a receiver. Well, now you're a receiver,

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Speaker 1: you understand that what you want out of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I think that you know, these are types of

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Speaker 1: things that these guys run, these routes, and Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: likes to throw the big targets. Because I saw the

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Speaker 1: Giants are doing a little bit more of the back

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Speaker 1: shoulder throw, which I've always liked, and I think they

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Speaker 1: went away from it for a little while, But that

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Speaker 1: certainly is a tough, tough throw to defend if you're

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Speaker 1: on defense. So offensively, if you can execute that throw,

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Speaker 1: especially to a guy that's six three, six four, you

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Speaker 1: have an advantage. And we didn't see we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of it in the end zone yet, but

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Speaker 1: I think that's a weapon to have down there in

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Speaker 1: the short red zone. It could do wonders to help

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Speaker 1: finish drives. You can't. You can't defend it. And you

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Speaker 1: look at Buffalo and Kansas City, given that's where Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable and Mike Kafka came from, they didn't really have

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Speaker 1: a skyscraper neither one of those teams. Stefon Diggs is

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Speaker 1: maybe the one guy that you would throw in there,

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Speaker 1: correct but he's not talking Gabriel Davis. Maybe Kansas City

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Speaker 1: didn't have towers. They had a lot of small guys

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Speaker 1: that had speed, and they had you know, Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: is a big guy. But yeah, so um, And I

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Speaker 1: think that you know when you look at at Bellinger

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Speaker 1: in that past that he went off his hands, that's

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Speaker 1: if that's the catch he needs to make that make

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Speaker 1: that catch. Um, I think you know he's gonna learn

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Speaker 1: from that. But again, these are off this is the

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Speaker 1: this is the preseason. If you're gonna make mistakes, it's

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Speaker 1: time to make the mistakes now and that you can

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Speaker 1: understand why you made them in corrections. And this team

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Speaker 1: has another The Jets are coming in town. They have

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Speaker 1: a practice against the Jets on Thursday. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: that that's the wave of the future. I think lot

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00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: of the teams like to have that type of competition um,

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Speaker 1: especially at this juncture in the in the preseason, because

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Speaker 1: guys are tired line up against the guys in practice,

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Speaker 1: so you'll see a lot of a lot of plays

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Speaker 1: run on Thursday, and then again you have the game

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Speaker 1: uh this weekend. After that, make sure to download the

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Speaker 1: With the Giants beating the Bengals to twenty two will

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Speaker 1: the Giants will look to accomplish as Jeff mentioned this

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Speaker 1: the Bengals two. Here at MetLife Stadium, we welcome you

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Speaker 1: back to Pepsi Giants extra point alongside Jeff Eagles. I'm

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Speaker 1: Lance Meadow and the Fox fumble was big because that

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Speaker 1: came after the Giants put together a nine play, seventy

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Speaker 1: five yard touchdown drive that took two thirty off the

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Speaker 1: clock with Davis Webb connecting with Alex Bachman for the

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Speaker 1: very own. John schmell K had an opportunity to catch

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Speaker 1: up with the starting quarterback of Big Blue, Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna jump in at the locker room of Giants

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Speaker 1: quarterback Davis Webb during training camp and then obviously tonight

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Speaker 1: as well. Um, so he's a tremendously hard worker and

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Speaker 1: a and a really good player, a talented player, and

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Speaker 1: uh someone who can coint on to get open. What

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Speaker 1: do you say to your working tight end, have three

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Speaker 1: that play? Yeah, I mean I think it's just uh

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Speaker 1: getting on the same page with some of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, I can probably you know,

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Speaker 1: do a better job getting the ball down and and

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Speaker 1: you know, I know he'll make that play and and

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Speaker 1: uh and we'll get it. But he's had a good

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Speaker 1: camp and and uh, you know he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good player. Daniel. How would you feel if you didn't

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Speaker 1: end up playing in the last preseason game and that's

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Speaker 1: just kind of what you had to season? Um well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Uh, those decisions are well

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Speaker 1: over my head. But um, you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I thought we did a lot of good things and

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Speaker 1: stuff we can build off of. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've got an important few weeks of work here coming up.

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Speaker 1: Um you know, obviously with this week most immediately, so

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Speaker 1: that's what we're focused on and and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot we gotta you know, still do. Did you

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Speaker 1: wish to play tonight because Table was saying on Friday

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Speaker 1: he was kind of revisiting whether he could play. Didn't

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Speaker 1: make any kind of push like that. No, that was

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Speaker 1: coach's call and and uh, my job to show up

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Speaker 1: and play. We can have seen so far make you

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Speaker 1: feel you guys are heading in the right direction as

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Speaker 1: an office. Yeah, I mean I felt that way throughout camp.

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Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, it's a process, and we're

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Speaker 1: constantly learning and improving day to day. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: but I felt like we've had a good camp and

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Speaker 1: we've done that, um in the first few weeks. So uh,

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Speaker 1: we've got to keep doing that, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what's most important, is what we do from this

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Speaker 1: point on and um, you know how much we can

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Speaker 1: still improve. So um, that's what we're focused on. Stan

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Speaker 1: Giants quarterback Daniel Jones lands back to him, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, John, So Daniel Jones reflecting on

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Speaker 1: his performance, and he did play. I would say maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit longer than we had anticipating, definitely, especially

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Speaker 1: since they didn't have their fully healthy first year offensive.

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Speaker 1: Just goes to show you how sometimes information is exactly

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Speaker 1: what it's not. Um. But I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones still wants to He's still got to get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a rhythm with his receivers um

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Speaker 1: running backs. And I know there's a line, but there

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Speaker 1: was three fists of the line was still playing in

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Speaker 1: front of him today. So I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: it's important for your starting quarterback um, even though that

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Speaker 1: you know your risk injury. But that's the game of football.

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Speaker 1: So I think you gotta get him out there. You

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Speaker 1: gotta kind of you know, a new system. This is

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Speaker 1: another offense he's starting to learn. So the more reps

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Speaker 1: he can get with live ammunition, if you will. But

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Speaker 1: these other guys against him, it's it's important to him.

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Speaker 1: Now the game that's coming up next week, I think

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Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones, in my opinion, will get a lot

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Speaker 1: of work during the week. On Thursday at then it's probably,

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Speaker 1: be in a game action for him. But then the

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Speaker 1: practices and those those scrimmages, not a scrimmage, but against

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Speaker 1: another team, you get a lot of work in their

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Speaker 1: seven on seven's one on ones. You get eleven on

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Speaker 1: eleven drill. So then in the course of a practice

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of work that you can get and

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Speaker 1: not have to play in the preseason game. And we

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Speaker 1: saw the Giants do that in previous season, for example,

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Speaker 1: when they went to Cleveland, they had joined practice with

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Speaker 1: the Browns. They did the same thing with the Patriots

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Speaker 1: and Joe Judge, who was the head coach of course

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Speaker 1: at the time, they felt, hey, starters got a lot

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Speaker 1: of work during the week, we'll play the backups. You actually,

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Speaker 1: you actually get more work in a preseason practice than

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Speaker 1: you're doing a preseason game, if you will, because I

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Speaker 1: think that the practices are there, they're they're scripted. You

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Speaker 1: kind of understand what you're in you'r Also, it's a

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Speaker 1: great way to evaluate, especially the last week of training

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Speaker 1: camp and going into uh, you know, the regular season

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Speaker 1: coming up and you gotta make cuts soon. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's important. I think I would rather have a

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Speaker 1: practice like maybe like now, I think this is a

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Speaker 1: good spot because it's the final evaluation. They'll keep a

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Speaker 1: lot of the guys out, but that those final you know,

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Speaker 1: evaluations for those guys that they're trying to make the

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Speaker 1: back end of the rosters, we say will be important

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Speaker 1: this week for that practice, and Dable is going to

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Speaker 1: have conversations with Jets head coach Robert Salad. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: lay out to your point the script. They're gonna know

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Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page. He'll get an idea, Brian Dable,

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Speaker 1: how much of the starters so the Jets will be

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Speaker 1: we could say, hey, it's great to get out on

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Speaker 1: your own practice field against an unfamiliar opponent. The problem

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Speaker 1: is how many starters are gonna be at your disposal

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Speaker 1: to actually participate in that Thursday practice. And I think

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Speaker 1: that I think that that conversation will be on going

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Speaker 1: up until the minute they start to get on the field,

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Speaker 1: because I think that things can happen between now and Thursday.

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Speaker 1: When this happened. So um, and you know, hopefully the

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Speaker 1: guys that got banged up today that you know, they

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Speaker 1: can get healthy and maybe not have to participate in

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Speaker 1: that practice and get ready for the regular season, because

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Speaker 1: as you know, that's more important. Uh, once September comes

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Speaker 1: around in the first game of the season against the Titans,

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Speaker 1: you want to have all fifty three guys healthy and

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Now, in fairness, there is two full

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Speaker 1: weeks Jeff, between next Sunday's game and the start of

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Speaker 1: the regular season. So even if you're dealing with some

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Speaker 1: bumps and bruises and injuries, you will still have enough

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Speaker 1: leeway to get the full roster back hopefully. And again,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I think that this next week is

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Speaker 1: is the final preparations for an evaluations on a roster

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Speaker 1: of this fifty three man. I think, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you had to go and make it today, I think

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Speaker 1: that I think this roster you probably know of it

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Speaker 1: where you have to make some room now, is that

792
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Speaker 1: these guys that are trying to to make roster spots,

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Speaker 1: you got injuries, and you know you have you have

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Speaker 1: things that you have to do as an organization. You

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Speaker 1: got away players, you know, injured to make room for

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Speaker 1: other guys. And and Joe Shane and his staff is

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Speaker 1: constantly looking for other players that can come in here

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Speaker 1: and maybe contribute to coming on because that last fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster. I remember I remember telling guys like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: you might have made the fifty three on Sunday. This

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Speaker 1: is you know, but I said, they got until Wednesday

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Speaker 1: to cut your butt, so you better just don't go

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Speaker 1: party and don't you know, throw a party for because

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Speaker 1: you made the roster. And I've seen it happen. I've

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: seen it, the guys getting ready to go out to

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Speaker 1: practice on a Wednesday morning and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: there's the guy in front of your lockers saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the coach wants to see you and I told you so.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta be careful because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing, you know how it goes. And uh,

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Speaker 1: but again, I think more so developing the practice squad

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Speaker 1: and getting guys that are gonna stay on your team.

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Speaker 1: You want to you want to have as many guys

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Speaker 1: as you can keep and not have to go somewhere

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Speaker 1: else because those are your that's the future. Those are

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Speaker 1: the guys that can if there are injuries. They've already

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Speaker 1: been in your camp. They've been in the post excuse me,

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Speaker 1: they've been in the preseason, they've been in the off season,

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Speaker 1: and they know your system. Sixteen spots on the practice

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Speaker 1: squad also, so well, yeah, you're not limited to just

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Speaker 1: first year players. You can have a few vested veterans

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Speaker 1: and guys that have been in the league for several years.

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Speaker 1: And there's a few spots for players that there's no limitation.

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Speaker 1: They could be in the year for the league for

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Speaker 1: ten years. You still have all the practice squad and

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Speaker 1: that's that's a good thing to have because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's always that experience factor. So you don't want to

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Speaker 1: carry a guy like that for multiple of reasons. Number One, salary, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have a salary cap. You got if a veteran

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Speaker 1: comes on the active roster, there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that go into that. But the other thing is that

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Speaker 1: you have experience. You have a veteran that's experience, and

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Speaker 1: if for some reason you got to bring him up,

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Speaker 1: you know that there's no substitute or experience, and may

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Speaker 1: might have a five six year veteran it's sitting on

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Speaker 1: that practice squad um and now you can call him

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Speaker 1: up and he can, you know, go into a game

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Speaker 1: where you know he's played a lot of them. Well.

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Speaker 1: On a related note, Alex Bachman has been on the

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Speaker 1: Giants practice squad over the last few seasons. He's been

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00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: up and down active roster practice squad. He had a

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Speaker 1: standout performance tonight. Our very own John Schmilk had an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to catch up with the latest star wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: We're at the locker of Alex Bachman. But anytime I

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Speaker 1: can have an opportunity to help my team. Um, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, if this builds towards towards something in the future,

847
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, Giants Nation. Um, Mossy came by and just

848
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: talking about how we don't have had one winning season

849
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Speaker 1: the last eleven years, and you know that kind of

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Speaker 1: hit me and a lot of the guys because you know,

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Speaker 1: we want to change that. New York and people here,

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Speaker 1: they work hard, come come see our games on Sundays,

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Speaker 1: and so we're just trying to put on a show

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Speaker 1: for them. Parents are Leslie Bachman and Dave Bachman. Yeah,

855
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: so they came out tonight from the West Coast. So

856
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: I didn't see him seeing them in a few months.

857
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: So uh southern California. Yea thousand Oaks California. So yeah,

858
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm just glad they could come out anytime I get

859
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: to see them. I'm really thankful for it. So all

860
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: the work you did with Davis in practice over the summer,

861
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, you guys got a lot of ups together

862
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: at the practice to be able to bring it on

863
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: into a game situation. How nice was that to kind

864
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: of fall into that rhythm so quickly. Uh, it was great.

865
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: It's a blessing to be honest. Um. You know, we

866
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: we watched film together. Sometimes we're coming on our off

867
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: days and it's kind of a joke. Sometimes I take

868
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: over the quarterback room and so he goes into a

869
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: different room. But you know, he just told me the

870
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: entire week, hey, like you're gonna have your opportunities. We

871
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: can be looking for you all week long. Um. I

872
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: never imagined I would He's gonna look for me as

873
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: much as he did. Um, and only half of football.

874
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: So um. You know, we just had that that look

875
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: in our eyes after the at the end of the

876
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: game and just looked at each other like any man,

877
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: like we made it work, and I'm really glad we

878
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: did so. Um yeah, two touchdowns. But are you, uh

879
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: even more thrilled about the special team's tackle that you had. Yeah.

880
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for team I can let me loose. Um.

881
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: I've been on scout team kickoff for three years now,

882
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just you know, just like I said, I

883
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: kept my my mouth shuping my head down and just

884
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: try to give a good look for our kick return. Team,

885
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: but also tried to you know, improve my craft as well.

886
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: Um and unfortunately that those looks and that hard work

887
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: is paid off for me tonight. I really wanted to

888
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: go down. I actually was getting frustrated. I get frestrat

889
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: every time I don't make it tackle. I just want

890
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: to be that guy. I'm I'm the five, I'm a penetrator.

891
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to, you know, cause havoc in the return game.

892
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: So luckily I was able to do that tonight, and

893
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: I was fired up about it. That's Giants wide receiver

894
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Alex Bachman lance back to you, all right, Thank you

895
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: so much. John Bachman with eleven catches for a hundred

896
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: twenty two yards and two scores. Reflecting on his performance

897
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: and his journey thus far with the Giants, we will

898
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: step beside come back will continue to get some more

899
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: play a reaction. Also go over the injury report as

900
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: that has added a few more notable names and some

901
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: other tough decisions the Giants will have to make at

902
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: various positions. That's coming up right here on Pepsi Giants

903
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: Extra point. You're listening to Pepsi Giants Extra point on

904
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: the w f A N Giants Radio Network. This is

905
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Davis Webb and you're listening to the radio home with

906
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: a big Blue the Fan, w f A N and

907
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: w f A n f M, New York. Welcome back

908
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: to PEPSI Giants Extra Point. Alongside Jeff Eagels, Pula Tino

909
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: joins us as well. I'm Lance Meadow is recapping the

910
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Giants victory over the Bengals here at Midlife Stadium in

911
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: East Rutherford, New Jersey. Right be four. We stepped aside.

912
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned that the injury report has added a few

913
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: more notable names, so it's time to run you through that.

914
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: And the injury report is brought to you by hacketts

915
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: Ackcrity and health keep getting better. Cavon Thibodeaux when down

916
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: held his knee, he got hit on his lower part

917
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: of his right leg, then was able to get off

918
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: the field. He went into the Blue medical tent and

919
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: seemed to be in good spirits but is undergoing more test.

920
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: Brian Table mentioned that in his postgame press or no

921
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: update on that front, but it's being classified as a

922
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: knee injury. There is optimism though according to reports outside

923
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: of the Giants that they don't think it is a

924
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: serious injury. Darien Beaver's another member of the two thousand

925
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: twenty two draft class. He left within knee injury. C

926
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: J Board the wide receiver ribs injury as he lost

927
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: the fumble on a special team's return, and Graham Gono,

928
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: the kicker, was evaluated for a concussion. So as a

929
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: result of Graham Gono being out of the game, Jamie Gillen,

930
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: the punter, had to come on and serve as the kicker,

931
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: and Julian Love, one of the Giants starting safeties, served

932
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: as the holder, and our very old John Schmell caught

933
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: up with Julian Love. All right, now we're joined downstairs

934
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: by Giants holder Julian Love. So Julia tell me how

935
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: that came about? Man, maybe, oh man, you know, I

936
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: just I'm Johnny on the spot. It seems like, uh,

937
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: I saw you know, you went down and uh, you know,

938
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Casey and Jamie and I have good relations and so

939
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: I just held it. Uh. We practiced a few times

940
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: and good to go. Is that something you have done before?

941
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Did you have any experience? And like why you uh?

942
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Just really because I'm close with him, my special teams guy.

943
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Uh in my heart and uh no, I've never done

944
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: it before. That was the first talk about how your

945
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: defense first Union guys played. When you guys are out

946
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: there together, Yeah, I've really played well. I think we

947
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: played Uh you know we we we got dealt some

948
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: short fields, um, and we were resilient. We held in

949
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: the three time. UM, that's what you want. We communicated well,

950
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: we flew around and that's what you want to see. Preseason,

951
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: you'll get the blood flowing and all last time. I

952
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: know you're doing it in practice, but how valuable are

953
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: these snaps full speed against the different opponent executing wink

954
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: system in real time in the preseason. Oh it's shoes.

955
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean you want to hit week one in the

956
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: full rhythm of tackling, you know, you know, being around

957
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: the ball, and you can't get that in practice fully,

958
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: so uh doing that, you know these pieces and game

959
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: is crucial, and so you gotta team. Seriously, how do

960
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: you think the secondary is coming together? Especially you guys

961
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: got a young group, especially at cornerback. Yeah, we're young.

962
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: I think these games, you know, guys just getting better

963
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: and better, building and building. You know, you try to

964
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: suck up as much and knows as you can in

965
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: these pieceason games. And so I think our groups coming

966
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: along great. Can you give me the wave of emotions

967
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: when you saw a cavan go down, you see the

968
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: car come out and then pop he's up the piece

969
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, I was a definitely scary moment. Um.

970
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, you never want to see that. Well, this

971
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: was a talented guy, um, But I know he's okay,

972
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: and so you guys gonna move forward. Gay Stuck j

973
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thank you, all right, thank you just

974
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: the cave on Tipo though injury, and Paul, you were

975
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: down there on the field when that injury did happen. Yeah,

976
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: the entire bench was aghast when Thibodeau was down and

977
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: when the Giants training staff went out to the middle

978
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: of the field, at first they were looking at his

979
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: knee and then they motioned towards for the card. And

980
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: any time that the card comes out, that's gonna be

981
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: a scary thing. But then, as you mentioned, Thibodeau was

982
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: able to get to his feet, walked off under his

983
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: own power, actually walked behind the Giants bench where I was,

984
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: and walked into the coaches club behind the bench, thinking

985
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: that that was the hallway to the Giants locker. Room.

986
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: They had to go fish and learn out of the

987
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: coaches club, and then they brought him back down into

988
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: the locker room for further examinations. And as you said,

989
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hope and optimism that it's

990
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: not all that serious. I do not have any further

991
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: information about Darien Beaver's knee. Uh. The interesting thing about

992
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Gano he got hurt on the seventy yard kickoff return

993
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: early in the second quarter. Uh, he got danged. He

994
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: got kicked in the head, tried to tackle Chris Evans

995
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: and as a result, he was warming up on the

996
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: sidelines after that because I was down there by him,

997
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: and he just called the trainers over and he said

998
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: he didn't feel right, so they walked him into the

999
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: locker room. Now at that point, I had asked one

1000
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: of the staff members, does that mean you go for

1001
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: two the rest of the night. Do you not even

1002
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: worry about kicking any placements at all? Well, then at halftime,

1003
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Brian Dable quickly went over to Julian Love and to

1004
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Jamie Gillen and told those guys go over there and

1005
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: practice a placement once because I may need you to kick.

1006
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: They had no idea that it was gonna happen. So

1007
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Love took one snap, Gillen kicked at into the net,

1008
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: and that was the only time in their lives uh

1009
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: that they had ever worked together on a placement. And

1010
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: then obviously Gillen came out and wound up booting what

1011
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 1: was at a thirty four yard or thirty one yard

1012
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: field goal, uh and drilled it, which I know Jeff

1013
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: Feagles had also had two extra points. Yeah, I mean,

1014
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: by the way, those extra points are not closed anymore.

1015
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: Those they are still so that's pretty good now. But

1016
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: I do want to ask Jeff this. I've been told

1017
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: many times over that kickers and punters use different muscles

1018
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: when they execute their kicks. Now, years ago and maybe

1019
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: even when Jeff started, there were some punters who were

1020
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: still doing some kicks, but in recent years most teams

1021
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: will not let their punters and kickers cross over. So

1022
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: I wonder how dangerous was it, because for I honestly

1023
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: thought that when I was told by one of the

1024
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: staff members we might just go for two of the

1025
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: rest of the night, that maybe they wouldn't want to

1026
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: risk Gillen pulling one of those unused muscles on a

1027
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: field goal. Well, first of all the punters are the

1028
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: best athletes on the field. They're not gonna pull the

1029
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: muscle doing that type of stuff. Okay, but honestly I

1030
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: think that they do it is different muscles, that actually is.

1031
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: But but Jamie has kicked off before, he has kicked

1032
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: field goals, so he has experienced when Yeah, so I

1033
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: think that's fine. But also it gives you an idea

1034
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: that if something did happen in the regular season, now

1035
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: that you've had this preseason, you'll be able to understand

1036
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: where Julian Love came from. I have no idea, Like,

1037
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how they picked him out of that.

1038
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: He's got great hands, but I think to hold that snap,

1039
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: especially especially you know, to do it for the first time,

1040
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: you better have good hands. Well. The other thing, too,

1041
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: is is the whole of itself is not easy. You know,

1042
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: you catch it, that's great, but putting the thing down

1043
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: and getting the laces out and all that other stuff.

1044
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm glad Gillan didn't hit him in

1045
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: the hand or maybe hit one of the lineman and

1046
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: then but your line drive kick right, Well, it's unconventional

1047
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: because you figure maybe go to a guy like Tyrod

1048
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: Taylor quarterback or a wide receiver. Here's the other thing.

1049
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: Jamie Gillen is left footed. That's a whole different ballgame

1050
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: to Thank god, Julian Love doesn't know the difference between

1051
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: right and left cause he's never done it before. But

1052
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: if you're a right handed you're holding for a right

1053
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: hander all the time, and now the left putter comes

1054
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: in there, it's a completely different thing. It's just like

1055
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: when you have a left han. The snapper Jay offered

1056
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: with left handed. The first time you ever did it

1057
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: with me, I dropped the snap two times in row,

1058
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: and I said, what is the deal with what's going

1059
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: on here? He goes, well, I'm left handed. I'm like, oh,

1060
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: there you go. You didn't know because it was coming

1061
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: the opposite way. Some way to learn this is, yeah,

1062
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: exactly what their practice, thank god. But I mean yeah,

1063
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: so I said, we'll get him out of there, put

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Speaker 1: the right hander back in there. Well, speaking of Jamie

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Speaker 1: Gillen and the process he had to go through, our

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Speaker 1: very own John Schmell caught up with the newest kicker

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Speaker 1: on the Giant Scottish Hammer. Yes, we're at the locker

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00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: of Giants punter and apparently kicker Jamie Gillen. Jamie's how

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Speaker 1: that you found out Graham wasn't gonna kick. I see

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00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: you kind of run out. You're trying to dodge the

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00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: kids playing flag football at halftime, trying to get some

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Speaker 1: kicks in there. So tell me about how the whole

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Speaker 1: thing came about when you ended up kicking the fieldals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just um, you know, it's really unfortunate what happened to Graham.

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Speaker 1: But I saw it happened and took my cleats to

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Speaker 1: uh Tim and he cut off some of the spikes

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Speaker 1: on it so I could kick in and all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Um, just kind of prepared myself to

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Speaker 1: kick some vehicles and kickoffs. But no, it was it

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Speaker 1: just that's kind of what happens in football, right, and

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Speaker 1: when your names get when your name gets called, just

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Speaker 1: go and do it, you know. So it was good.

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Speaker 1: Had you done it before, like in practice, messing around

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Speaker 1: any experience? Nothing? No, No, I don't really practice field

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Speaker 1: goals or kickoffs anymore. I'm solely punting and holding. Um,

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00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: I drop kicked something for fun. But I did it

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Speaker 1: in college. I did all three in college for four years,

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Speaker 1: so I still have that kind of background. For it.

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Speaker 1: Um Jay Love has never held before. It was good

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Speaker 1: fun teaching him, so you know, I'm it. It was

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00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: just fun, you know, And it's just that's what being

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00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: a team is about, is having each other's backs and

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00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: stuff when stuff like that happens. So it was great.

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Speaker 1: So what was that quick tutorial like with with Julian

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00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: on the sideline? Try to teach him the ins and

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Speaker 1: outs of holding in about thirty five seconds. Uh, he's

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Speaker 1: an athlete. It was great. I love, I love j

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Speaker 1: Love And I said, hey, Case, he's gonna snap laces forward,

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Speaker 1: that's what he does. And I said, justin, should ball

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Speaker 1: put it down and just make sure it doesn't lean

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Speaker 1: towards me. He goes, great, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're you singularly open to get a chance to kick

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00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: like a game winning like fifty two yarder. Uh no,

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00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: but I was mentally prepared for here we go. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe this is it. So I guess as you mentally

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Speaker 1: prepare for that when you find out's gonna happen, like

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Speaker 1: and you have some time to think about it at least,

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Speaker 1: what's going through your head and how do you just

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Speaker 1: kind of get yourself mentally set to to do that job, especially,

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00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, kick an extra point of figgles, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, you're the guy out there. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure with that. Yeah. To honestly, I just I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm very I stay very positive a little. You know,

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Speaker 1: he tried. You want to have good self talk, just say,

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Speaker 1: you know, here we go, Jamie. Keep your head down.

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Speaker 1: Just certain things you know I remember from kicking. Uh,

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00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: don't don't overswing, you know, swing smooth, wait for the

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Speaker 1: guy's hand. Me come up. Just a couple of key

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00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: things in my head and just go out with the

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Speaker 1: clear head and smile on my face and don't do

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Speaker 1: it right. They grabbed the chance to to give you

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00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: any tips before or no, I know he was No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't. Thank you. We appreciate it. Cheers, thank you, alright.

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Speaker 1: So that is Giants punter slash kicker Jamie Gillen. Hey,

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Speaker 1: if a guy with the names Scottish Hammer can't handle

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Speaker 1: an extra point or a field goal here there, we're

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00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: on tonight's game and look ahead to the preseason finale

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Speaker 1: against the New York Jets. We'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 1: Right before we stepped aside, we were focusing on some

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00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: special teams dynamics with respect to Jamie Gillen transforming from

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00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: a punter to a kicker. But we have not talked about, Jeff,

1153
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: the coverage and the issues also that have come to

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00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: really the four fronts over the last two weeks. And

1155
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: this is not necessarily positive accolades that we're talking about.

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00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: You had the seventy three yard kickoff return by Chris

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00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: Evans which allowed the Bengals to start at the Giants

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00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: twenty four. Fortunately, the defense came through helped mc fierson

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00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: to a field goal. Then c J board winds up

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00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: fumbling the ball on a kickoff return was hit by

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00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: former Giant Michael Thomas. That also shortened the field, and

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00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: we saw some hiccups in the opener against the Patriots

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00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and one of those field goals, the

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: Giants only had ten guys on the field, so it's

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00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: kind of hard to rush a field goal when you

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00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: only we can you're a lot of eleven. But if

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00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: you get the goodness of the NFL's heart, they allow

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00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: you a letting exactly, Um miss tackles. Um. One thing

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: about you know, when you give up a long kickoff return,

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00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: and I've said this before, covering kicks is all about

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00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: lane integrity, right, so you gotta stay in your lanes.

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Speaker 1: And what I saw on that play was there was

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00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: just you know, too many guys that were out of

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00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: their lanes. And what happened. Then if it makes it

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: easy for the return team because now they're not having

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00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: to block a guy because they took himself out of

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00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: the play. And that's what exactly what happened on that long,

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00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: long return. And then you turn it around. The Cincinnati

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00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: Bengal did the same thing because the Giants had another

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00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: they had their own long return, but you had you

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00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: had a you know, Ziminez had a he had a

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00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: holding penalty on that place. So you just can't you

1183
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: can't create. The thing about special teams, you don't never

1184
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: want penalties because there their spot penalty. They'll bring it back,

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: especially on a huge play like that. So, um, you know,

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00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: there's things you've got to clean up. We've talked about

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00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: this on our Big Blue Kickoff Live show about the

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00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: special teams. You gotta understand that these guys are they're

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00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: throwing guys in their left and right. There's no continuity

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00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: with it, but there at some point in time, you've

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00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: got to start to think it's just you know, hopefully

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna become a big problem. Um. Once you

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00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: get your core special teams guys, the guys that can

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00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: work together and practice, then you hopefully it'll get better.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jeff, one of the things I think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a bit of a concern for them is

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00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: that I think one of the projected core guys, because

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00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: he's plays on all four special teams, the return units,

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Speaker 1: and the coverage units, is c J Board. Now he

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00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: gets popped and coughs up a ball on a return tonight,

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: which of course is a cardinal sin. Then he gets

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00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: hurt in the ribs and has to come out of

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00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: the game. That can't make the Giants coaching staff feel

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: good when he may have been one of the projected

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00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: core guys that could be the answer to get this

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Speaker 1: thing right. When you look at the way that Colin

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Johnson has played this all this this pre season. Alex Bachman,

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Speaker 1: the guy another he's just I mean, he's a he's

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Speaker 1: a course, but you heard him. He's been covering kicks

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Speaker 1: on scout team for three years. He's hungry. He loved

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Speaker 1: to get a jersey on on game day in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. And you know, and again these things happen

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Speaker 1: in preseason. You cough up a football, that's that's you know,

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Speaker 1: like you said, that's a cardinal sin. You want to

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Speaker 1: give the ball back to the offense if you're a returner, okay,

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Speaker 1: and then then not to mention, if you get injured

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Speaker 1: this late in training camp, that's that could be detrimental

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Speaker 1: to your roster spot. They didn't give a chance to

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Speaker 1: Richie James to return anything tonight, but that's what he

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Speaker 1: has been known for in his short NFL career where

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00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: he had one return tonight. I forgot and he had

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Speaker 1: a nice return. And in fact, Lance and I were

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00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: talking about it. You know, that's that's that's who that's

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Speaker 1: we know he can do that. It's it's it's what

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00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: else can he do on specially he let a ball

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Speaker 1: go off his fingertips so mean and again you know

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Speaker 1: that that that wide receiver room, it's getting very very

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Speaker 1: it's gets scrouded. It's very scrouded. Right now. Yeah, everybody,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about that earlier. I think the board

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Speaker 1: injury Paul is more damaging than the fumble. And the

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Speaker 1: reason I sgret is I think Board has enough of

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Speaker 1: a track record film. I know he hasn't been with

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff, but I think he's proven what he

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00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: could do as a return guy that it's more of

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Speaker 1: are you gonna be healthy come the start of the season.

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Speaker 1: That's the million donal question. Here's another thing that complicates matters.

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Speaker 1: Guys Gary Brightwell, who's also a core special teamer. He's

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Speaker 1: banged up. If they had hint tonight, he probably would

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00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: have got some opportunities. And in the meantime, let's give

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Speaker 1: credit to Antonio Williams and Jason Corbin who have their

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00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: battling done well at running back and giving you something

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Speaker 1: on specials. And I mentioned in the pre game about

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Speaker 1: that backup running back position. You know that that's the

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Speaker 1: position that's wide open, and those guys are certainly performing

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Speaker 1: as Zoe Special. Thanks to Pete Hoffman for all his

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Speaker 1: help steering the traffic back at our studios for Paul

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Speaker 1: to Tino and Jeff Eagles, as well as our entire crew.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lance Meadow saying so long for a MetLife Stadium

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Speaker 1: in East Rutherford, New Jersey. We will speak to you

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Speaker 1: next weekend. Have a good one.