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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 1: We have another live stream on the Bleacher Report app.
Speaker 1: Make sure to subscribe to the Draymond Green YouTube channel
Speaker 1: if you haven't already out there. A couple of good,
Speaker 1: great interviews I thought that went out last week. One
Speaker 1: with the great Isaiah Thomas Detroit Piston bad Boy, two
Speaker 1: time champion Finals MVP Isaiah Zeke Thomas, and one with
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce The Truth actually one of my favorite episodes.
Speaker 1: Both of those episodes were actually two of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Zeke obviously having a connection to the state of Michigan
Speaker 1: and Detroit Pistons and bad Boys, and obviously being back
Speaker 1: court Mace with Joe Dumars, who I've shared with you
Speaker 1: all before as like a father figure in my life,
Speaker 1: has been for fifteen plus years. So there's that, and
Speaker 1: then Paul Pierrice. Obviously, everyone knows the history of Paul
Speaker 1: Pierce and myself and the viral clip that went crazy
Speaker 1: when Paul Pierce was with the Clippers, and we addressed
Speaker 1: that right off the gate when we got into the interview,
Speaker 1: which set the stage for an incredible, incredible interview. We
Speaker 1: talked everything from Paul Pierce being stabbed to Ray Allen,
Speaker 1: to Doc Rivers and the Milwaukee Bucks and his thoughts
Speaker 1: on that with Doc being his coach that he won
Speaker 1: championship with KG.
Speaker 3: You name it.
Speaker 1: We talked everything and it was an absolutely incredible episode,
Speaker 1: so make sure you all check them out. And then lastly,
Speaker 1: the Twitter give out the YouTube giveaway head to my
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Speaker 1: win to sign Jersey. There will be a couple of
Speaker 1: them going out, so check that out. First topic, first
Speaker 1: item of business, dubs one and two without Steph losses
Speaker 1: to the Spurs and Mavericks. I know that's probably confusing
Speaker 1: for some like, no, y'all just beat the Spurs. We
Speaker 1: actually played them two games in a row. We played
Speaker 1: them once at home on Saturday and then in San
Speaker 1: Antonio on Monday. The one Saturday, we were awful. We
Speaker 1: had no energy on the court. We played with no
Speaker 1: sense of urgery, excuse me, no sense of urgency, and
Speaker 1: the Spurs kind of got what they wanted. That was
Speaker 1: without Winby, that was without Devin for Sale. But sometimes
Speaker 1: when you play teams without their best players, that actually
Speaker 1: makes them a little tougher to play. In this league,
Speaker 1: it was a very weird thing because you just don't
Speaker 1: know what to expect, and so you don't know what
Speaker 1: to expect from an offense because obviously, when your best
Speaker 1: players on the floor, you go to certain things, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you take your two best
Speaker 1: players out and you're kind of just random all over
Speaker 1: the place, and guys who don't normally get the shots
Speaker 1: are getting the shots, and you don't really know how
Speaker 1: to react to it. And so, needless to say, no,
Speaker 1: it's hues. They absolutely destroyed us at home. We actually
Speaker 1: looked like we didn't belong on the same floor. Coming
Speaker 1: back in San Antonio on Monday, Victor win Biyama being back,
Speaker 1: Devin Vesel being back, we actually won that game pretty handily,
Speaker 1: took control, We took control of the game. Chris Paul
Speaker 1: had nineteen nine and eight Vintage CP game. Jonathan Kamingo
Speaker 1: was really good. Clay got it going a bit in
Speaker 1: that game, and we were in our defense, we were
Speaker 1: flying around, and we were able to take control of
Speaker 1: that game in the third and not have any issues
Speaker 1: with that game. And we're going to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about that game and a few Victor WINBYAMA. We
Speaker 1: must talk about very interesting things to say about Victor WINBYAMA,
Speaker 1: and then moving on. We ended up losing to the
Speaker 1: Mavericks last night. I also didn't play in that game.
Speaker 1: My back has been bothering me for like four or
Speaker 1: five games, and I've kind of been going through it,
Speaker 1: like just playing through it and playing through it, getting
Speaker 1: my Like we have the absolute best training staff in
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 3: I would put my money on that.
Speaker 1: Rick and Danny and Yoda and and so you know,
Speaker 1: they're doing things to get me back to a good
Speaker 1: space to go in the game. And then like you know,
Speaker 1: third quarter or so, it just locks all the way
Speaker 1: back up and you're kind of grinding through the rest
Speaker 1: of the game, just trying to get to the end.
Speaker 1: Next day, not in a good space, can't really get
Speaker 1: on the court even if I want to get some
Speaker 1: work in and then kind of getting it back to
Speaker 1: a good face to go back out there and play.
Speaker 3: And so the hope is that.
Speaker 1: And not having a game since Monday for myself and
Speaker 1: not playing in the Dallas game that as opposed to
Speaker 1: getting it back to a place to where it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I can get out there now, that those
Speaker 1: extra couple.
Speaker 3: Of days will allow it to go away, because.
Speaker 1: It's just no fun just getting it to a space
Speaker 1: where I can get in the game and then it
Speaker 1: locks back up and it's painful. And it's also has
Speaker 1: been kind of in that same area that I had
Speaker 1: the issue before.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: The way I view it is like my body keep
Speaker 1: giving me this warning shots. You know, listen to him before,
Speaker 1: listen to him before. You have to listen to him.
Speaker 1: You can't do nothing. And so that is why I
Speaker 1: missed last night. And you know I talked to you
Speaker 1: all about the injury before when I was out with
Speaker 1: the back injury, and like I had to relearn how
Speaker 1: to walk and relearn how to run and relearn how
Speaker 1: to jump and find my coordination again on the court.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget first getting back on the court and
Speaker 1: like run and thinking I can do just a simple
Speaker 1: jump off my left foot layup, and like it was
Speaker 1: so uncoordinated, I didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 3: I threw the ball off the glass.
Speaker 1: And that was within six weeks, seven weeks of me
Speaker 1: getting back on the court, and then we obviously went
Speaker 1: on to win a championship. And so it's just something
Speaker 1: that number one is a little scary, but number two
Speaker 1: don't really want to mess around with back can be dangerous.
Speaker 1: So my plan and hope is to play Saturday, obviously
Speaker 1: hoping that things continue to trend in the right direction.
Speaker 3: That would be my goal to play Saturday, and.
Speaker 1: We shall see how that goes before we continue on.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to the Goat Steph Curry thirty six years old.
Speaker 1: Today Pod day for you, as po Day for me
Speaker 1: is to go Day. My brother, Happy birthday, man, it's
Speaker 1: been a pleasure. This is our twelfth birthday. My birthday
Speaker 1: was last week, his birthday today twelfth birthday spending together,
Speaker 1: like man, we're getting closer to like half our birthday
Speaker 1: is spending together. And it's such a special thing, man,
Speaker 1: to have someone like that in my life. I'm very
Speaker 1: thankful for the example that he set as the man,
Speaker 1: the example that he said as the basketball player, the
Speaker 1: example that he said as a brother, as a big brother.
Speaker 1: Couldn't ask for a better example to have in your
Speaker 1: life on a daily basis and to follow. And so
Speaker 1: I am honored and thankful for.
Speaker 3: You on your goat day, your born day, Happy birthday. Steph.
Speaker 1: Also saw some news about Steph saying he's running for president.
Speaker 1: How about that? And I actually think Steph Curry could
Speaker 1: be the president. And I actually think Steph Curry would
Speaker 1: be a great president. And the news that you all
Speaker 1: did not know you needed, Draymond Greene will be in
Speaker 1: the White House in some form of fashion. And none
Speaker 1: of y'all thought y'all needed that news, and you never
Speaker 1: could have believed it. But I'm telling you, Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 1: that'd be a good title for you, boy.
Speaker 3: So shout out to Steph. Happy birthday, my brother.
Speaker 1: But getting back into these games when we beat the
Speaker 1: Spurs number one, forget the game. Victor Winbyama is probably
Speaker 1: a top twenty player in the NBA right now. He
Speaker 1: is insanely gifted, and watching him play, I personally thought, like, man,
Speaker 1: his handle gonna be loose, Like his handle actually ain't loose,
Speaker 1: like he passed the ball and got a great handle
Speaker 1: on it and then it's tight and shout out to the
Speaker 1: San Antonio style because some are front office. Ryan Atkinson,
Speaker 1: who's always on the road scouting quite a bit, I
Speaker 1: was saying, like, Yo, San Antonio has helped him with
Speaker 1: that handle was not that good, Like he yes, he
Speaker 1: could drive the ball, but they've helped him a lot
Speaker 1: with his handle. You look at Tim Duncans, you look
Speaker 1: at the Kawhi Leonards, Tony Parker was not the player
Speaker 1: that Tony Parker ended up being when Tony Parker arrived
Speaker 1: in San Antonio.
Speaker 3: You look at all of those guys.
Speaker 1: We know that their development staff coach pop Chip England
Speaker 1: was there for years doing the hip moved on, but
Speaker 1: we know that their development staff is absolute top of
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 3: Like listen, I don't care how good of a prospect
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 1: If you get to the NBA and you don't have
Speaker 1: a good development staff, you're going to continue to be
Speaker 1: just that a good prospect. Now, that also requires you
Speaker 1: to put the work in. What I hear about Victor
Speaker 1: win Beyama, my college teammate, my brother, former college roommate,
Speaker 1: Raymard Morgan told myself and Travis Walden about Victor win
Speaker 1: Miyama three years ago, before Victor win miyama name even
Speaker 1: started popping up. Raymar played with him in France on
Speaker 1: Tony Parker's team, and he's like, man, I got this
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen year old on my team. I'm telling y'all
Speaker 1: he gonna be the number one pick in a couple
Speaker 1: of years. And I trust Raymar's judgment because Raymar also,
Speaker 1: long before everybody started talking about Luca Dncis, told us, man,
Speaker 1: it's this kid over here, Luka Danta that played Real
Speaker 1: MADRIDI fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a problem in the NBA. And I'm
Speaker 3: telling y'all.
Speaker 1: And people are gonna say his game ain't gonna translate,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling y'all, it's going to translate it. So
Speaker 1: those are two guys that Raymar called out to us
Speaker 1: way before, because Raymar's played euro League and stuff, and
Speaker 1: he called out those way before they start popping up
Speaker 1: on radars over here and draft boards.
Speaker 3: And all those things.
Speaker 1: And so he's not as weak as people may think
Speaker 1: he is because he's skinny, although he will need to
Speaker 1: get stronger and we all know that, and he knows that,
Speaker 1: and he will because again what I heard from Raymar
Speaker 1: and what I've heard from a Leen the kids a
Speaker 1: gym rat.
Speaker 3: He's a gym ra. He does everything the right way.
Speaker 3: He cares about basketball.
Speaker 1: He wants to be great with that skill set, with
Speaker 1: that lane, with that jump shots. Jump shot is absolutely
Speaker 1: beautiful in San Antonio, with that style. That kid watch out.
Speaker 1: And I know I'm not saying anything that hasn't been
Speaker 1: said before. And by the way, this is no stray
Speaker 1: at all. I think Chet Holmgren is a very good player,
Speaker 1: and I know there's been this comparison amongst those two.
Speaker 1: They're both super tall and lanky, they both block shots great,
Speaker 1: they both can shoot the ball, they both can put
Speaker 1: it on the floor. Chet Holmgren is going to be
Speaker 1: a problem, and I've told you all that on this
Speaker 1: podcast before. But I will tell you I think there's
Speaker 1: a gap in between Chet Homer and Victor Win Miyama.
Speaker 1: I honestly believe that there is a gap. Victor Win
Speaker 1: Miyama is just different and Chant is different too, Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, But like there's levels of player in
Speaker 1: this league, I don't care from the best plainting guards
Speaker 1: in the league to the best fight there's levels of players.
Speaker 3: That's just the case. That is always gonna be the case.
Speaker 3: There's a gap.
Speaker 1: Victor Womyema is so good and he's doing stuff like,
Speaker 1: all right, I caught it in the post this time,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna go score. I'm gonna go uphill
Speaker 1: dho and get this guy involved. You can see the
Speaker 1: growth in his game from where he was in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year to where he is now. A
Speaker 1: lot less crazy shots. He's taking h moving the ball,
Speaker 1: going dhos just to get off the ball, then roll
Speaker 1: and like has great feel.
Speaker 3: He catched the ball in the middle of the pain.
Speaker 1: He always has a chance to get it to the
Speaker 1: rim and knows where he's at. Kids special, absolutely special,
Speaker 1: and he may be he may win MVP of the
Speaker 1: league in like the next two years or so.
Speaker 3: Absolutely incredible player.
Speaker 1: I also saw that Kendrick Perkins says something about me saying,
Speaker 1: Victor win Miyama is not the defensive player of the year,
Speaker 1: and I want to be certain that Kendrick Perkins, I
Speaker 1: said win defensive player of the Year. Kendrick Perkins said
Speaker 1: he should get some defensive Player to your votes. I
Speaker 1: never disagreed that he should get defensive Player to your votes.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he should win Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year right now with a twenty fourth ring defense.
Speaker 3: I just don't think so. Now.
Speaker 1: His numbers will get better, as I said, and he
Speaker 1: will one day win that award, But you can't be
Speaker 1: on the twenty fourth best. I don't care when you're
Speaker 1: on the quarter. The defense is the twenty fourth best
Speaker 1: and that has to matter. And so saw that respected.
Speaker 1: But Victor Winn Miyama is a problem. Not telling you
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Speaker 1: have to get some vets in there. But I think
Speaker 1: with Victor win Binyama, you like all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you were looking to rebuild. You can turn that notch
Speaker 1: up fast because he's that good. So that was Victor
Speaker 1: win Byama. Dubs have lost for the last six after
Speaker 1: having a strong, very strong February. Man and honestly, it sucks. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we know the race that we're in with the playing race,
Speaker 1: and kind of right there in that ninth tenth spot,
Speaker 1: right there with the Lakers, Dallas and San Antonio, I
Speaker 1: mean not San Antonio. Sacramento slash Phoenix has gotten a
Speaker 1: few games up on us. With us dropping forward the
Speaker 1: last six, I think we still can make a push.
Speaker 1: I still feel good about our chances. Hopefully get to
Speaker 1: go back this weekend Steph against the Lakers. I am
Speaker 1: hearing that he's practicing on Friday. That's what I've been told,
Speaker 1: That's what you all have heard, and hopefully that puts
Speaker 1: him back on the court on Saturday. I think we
Speaker 1: can still turn it around. And then the lost yesterday
Speaker 1: to the MAVs. That Mavericks team look good. They got
Speaker 1: some good pickups and the obviously you got Kyrie and
Speaker 1: you got Luca. Kyrie is so good at basketball. And
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like to hate.
Speaker 3: Kyrie and.
Speaker 1: The way he lives his life and his views on
Speaker 1: certain things, like you can hit on those things all
Speaker 1: you want, but there's not many people in the NBA
Speaker 1: that can score the ball better than Kyrie. Irvan and
Speaker 1: there's not many people in the NBA that a defense
Speaker 1: is more fearful of and what they need to try
Speaker 1: to do to stop Kyrie Irving because he's a great
Speaker 1: finisher at all levels. He can shoot the three with
Speaker 1: the best of him. It's mid range is right up
Speaker 1: there with the best of him. And he's as good
Speaker 1: a finisher as there is an NBA, and that is
Speaker 1: including Victor in Miyama, that is including Daniel Gaffer who's
Speaker 1: made thirty shots in a row. Kyrie Irving is as
Speaker 1: good a finishing in the NBA as there is. And
Speaker 1: the pressure that Kyrie Irvin puts on the defense because
Speaker 1: he can do it at any level with size don't matter,
Speaker 1: you like, Kyrie Irving is a problem. And it's great
Speaker 1: to see Kai back out there on the core thriving
Speaker 1: doing what he enjoys with all all the noise, with
Speaker 1: all everybody jumping on him about his views on things,
Speaker 1: and just out there playing basketball and being the Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving that we've all watched for the last thirteen years.
Speaker 3: Absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1: So we got the Dallas team a couple more time.
Speaker 1: Those would be big games for us, obviously. What the
Speaker 1: standards are coming down to I think we got the
Speaker 1: Lakers one more time, maybe two, two more games with
Speaker 1: the Lakers, which those are also big games. You figure
Speaker 1: those games kind of count as two because you lose one,
Speaker 1: they pick up a win kind of counts as two
Speaker 1: games when you're right there in the race. So we
Speaker 1: need to try to make sure we take care of
Speaker 1: those games and moving forward. Another play in situation right
Speaker 1: there on the brink last night Kings and the Lakers play.
Speaker 1: I see everybody making such a huge deal out of
Speaker 1: a D being oer and ten face and Sabonas and
Speaker 1: everybody's like, is that a coincidence?
Speaker 3: Is that? Like? Do you make anything of that?
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because the first thing I ever heard,
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard of it was like
Speaker 1: a D being over nine and then you go into
Speaker 1: a road game at SAT, you lose the game, and everybody's.
Speaker 3: Like, oh see now he's over ten.
Speaker 1: And so I actually view that as one of those
Speaker 1: coincidence type things, like do we really believe that Sabonus
Speaker 1: is better than ad or could you be a tough matchup?
Speaker 1: Of course, like everybody has tough matchups, but you also
Speaker 1: can't make it just about some bonus in ad because
Speaker 1: the reality is Sacramento offense does run through Sabonis, but
Speaker 1: not in a manner of like unbusting your ass or
Speaker 1: you but like like, it ain't that like those those
Speaker 1: It's not like Mono Emano like this this record is
Speaker 1: trying to make it out to be.
Speaker 3: You can't ignore Daron Fox.
Speaker 1: Daron Fox has been better than any point guard the
Speaker 1: Lakers have had over the last couple of years. There's
Speaker 1: this thing called addition by subtraction. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember, but Malik Monk was here with the Lakers,
Speaker 1: revitalized his career and played well, and then went to Sacramento.
Speaker 1: So they also plucked one of their guys and the
Speaker 1: actually using them and he's playing really well, and so
Speaker 1: I think it's more of a coincidence than like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just that thing like they're beating them. So that
Speaker 1: was a big game in the standards as well. It's
Speaker 1: also great for us that the Lakers lost kind of
Speaker 1: keep us right there with the same amount of losses.
Speaker 1: So it'll be important for us to try to go
Speaker 1: out here on Saturday and take care of business. The
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets are ten and one since the All Star break.
Speaker 3: With their only loss.
Speaker 1: Coming to the Suns in overtime, they just moved back
Speaker 1: into the number one seed in the West. I think
Speaker 1: things will stay that way. They are gearing up for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They are a championship team and they're figuring
Speaker 1: out all right. We've stayed right in the mixed off season.
Speaker 1: Now it's time to turn it up after the break,
Speaker 1: and they're doing that.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: You know, things gets tough for the Minnesota Timberwoods with
Speaker 1: Cat being out. Saw Rudy Gobert went out the other night.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how serious that is or how long
Speaker 1: he'll be out, but I do know Kat had a
Speaker 1: procedure earlier this week and he'll on his meniscus and
Speaker 1: he'll probably be out at least another four weeks. So
Speaker 1: that makes things suffer. Kat has been really good. He's
Speaker 1: an All Star for a reason. He's been really good
Speaker 1: for that Minnesota team, and so I think they'll hit
Speaker 1: a few bumps with that. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how this all shakes out. So I don't think, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's a who's the biggest challenger who's not
Speaker 1: For the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 3: I think it's more so who you know who like just.
Speaker 1: The matchups you get and how it all plays out,
Speaker 1: and we'll see where it goes from there. But the
Speaker 1: Nuggets are real and they're playing great and they look
Speaker 1: like a championship team. Before we get out of here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna toss it to Jackson for a couple of
Speaker 1: male bad questions.
Speaker 3: Jackson, what we got first?
Speaker 4: One from at Jay Gonzalez? How do you think your
Speaker 4: game compares to Dennis Rodbmins?
Speaker 3: How does my game compared to Dennis Rodman?
Speaker 1: I think I think me and Dennis Robman have both
Speaker 1: kind of been a straw that stirs the pot. You know,
Speaker 1: the game is not so friendly with us out there.
Speaker 1: The game is intense, hard nos and I think the
Speaker 1: way Dennis Rodman defended all positions, there are some similarities there.
Speaker 1: Dennis Robmin was way far better rebounder than me, although
Speaker 1: I think I'm a good rebounder. In the game is
Speaker 1: different now I spent a lot of time like chasing
Speaker 1: guys on the perimeter and doing different things, like there's
Speaker 1: more shooting, so you're extending further away from the real
Speaker 1: Needless to say, I've never gotten thirty rebounds or thirty
Speaker 1: rebounds and several games in a row even when the
Speaker 1: game was a little different. Dennis Robin is one of
Speaker 1: the best rebounders we've ever seen, so I don't compare
Speaker 1: to him there at all. Like I said, I think
Speaker 1: I'm a good rebounder so on a defensive end, But
Speaker 1: then I also think that I do some things offensively
Speaker 1: that Dennis didn't do. But in saying that, Dennis Robin
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer and I can only strive
Speaker 1: to be remembered like the legend Dennis Robin himself in my.
Speaker 4: Career From at Ricky Asparza. Thoughts on the new look
Speaker 4: Mavericks team. Do you think that they have enough to
Speaker 4: contend in the West?
Speaker 3: Ricky?
Speaker 1: Like I was just saying about the West, I think
Speaker 1: the West is tough.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, the matchups.
Speaker 1: Are extremely important with who you match up with, and
Speaker 1: that's a tough team.
Speaker 3: Anytime you have.
Speaker 1: A team that has the likes of Kyrie Irbert in
Speaker 1: Luka Doncics with a supporting cast, that team can be dangerous.
Speaker 1: I think you know, as you get into it, you
Speaker 1: know you can find things defensively against them that you
Speaker 1: could possibly use to your advantage in.
Speaker 3: The playoff series.
Speaker 1: But anytime you have Luka, Doncic, Kyrie Irving, they have
Speaker 1: a supporting cast.
Speaker 3: Now, Daniel Gafford is a real player.
Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't know about him because he
Speaker 1: was stuck in Washington, real guy, PJ. Washington, been stuck
Speaker 1: in Charlotte playing losing basketball.
Speaker 3: He's playing good basketball. Now.
Speaker 1: That is a rap for this episode of The Draymond
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