1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huttele on, Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of the Giant Hubtle Podcast. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Today's guest, Well, we might have three generations of Sims 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: around here somewhere, but we have we have the middle 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: generation here with us, and that is Chris Simms from 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: NBC Sports. Chris, thanks to be with this man. Thanks 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: John doing great man. Just happy to be out here. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: It was a good day just watching some Giants football. Well, 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: talk to me, what do you think of a Joe 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Judge run practice? And just so the folks know, we're 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: recording this literally right after Yeah right, I mean listen, 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: you know, I worked with Joe up in New England 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: for about a year and a half when I was 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of in the coaching world and figuring out what 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to do after my playing career. I'm not 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: surprised with what I saw in practice today, Like very detailed, intense, 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: you know football basics, really being talked about tackling, catching 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: the ball, you know the details of situational football. So 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, listen, I'm I know, I'm a little 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: bit of a homer here. I'm a huge in of 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. I mean I would be saying that 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: if they were coaching another team just because of their 24 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: core beliefs are very much of what I believe. Whether 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: it's you know, Joe Judge, Patrick Graham on the defensive side, 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, who I've known for a long long time. 27 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm really impressed with the practice, but I'll 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: think you more impressed than anything. It just I think 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: the look of the team. I think the team how 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: so it stands out physically to me. You know, first 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: thing I always stand out and go on the field 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: is just go, let me just see the pure size 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: of the football team. The Giants are one of those 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: teams that are gonna walk off busses and people are 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna go, damn, they're big. Holy crap. Look at this 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: offensive line. Holy crap, Look at this defensive line. Uh 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: So that's you know, old school Giants team building New England, 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick type of football. I was impressed with what 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: I saw there. And of course I think the skill 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: guys are very underrated as well. Yeah, so let's talk 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: about these skill guys. How does that help? As a 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: former quarterback. How does that help a guy like Daniel 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Jones trying to make that jump in his third year. Well, 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: I think it's just as a quarterback right off the bat, 45 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: when you have talent, it gives you confidence just because 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: you just go okay, wait, I don't have to make 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: it happen all the time. I could throw a five 48 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: yard slant and it becomes right exactly exactly. You get 49 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Kenny Golladay, now where oh wait, everybody's covered, 50 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: but goladays big and he's ranging and he just to 51 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: the ball. Great, I'm in trouble. The pockets collapse and 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: everybody's covered. Let me just throw back shoulder to Kenny Golladay. 53 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: He'll make the catch even though he's covered, because you've 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: got great hands. So those are the things like talent 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: around you does. But I think more than that is 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: it can put the defense in compromising positions that can 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: make it easy in the quarterback. And most importantly I 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: think is it emboldens the offensive coordinator to do a 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: lot more. And I think that's where between Danny Dimes 60 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: and I think his continual improvement and Jason Garrett having 61 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: some more toys to play with it's where the offense 62 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I think can make big jump and the offensive line too, right. 63 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned they're big, but they're very young. Talk about 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: how you as a quarterback watch an offensive line development 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: front of you and how they're develop them in can 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: help somebody play the pusiness. Yeah right, Well, you know, 67 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: I think the big thing is with with the offensive line. 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: You know, you just want a group that you know 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: loves playing, is in it together. They can communicate in 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: a mentally right definitely, because that's part of you know, 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: the game so much. There's so much as you know, 72 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: communication of the line of scrimmage between the quarterback and 73 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: the center and the other four offensive linemen on you know, 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: two on each side, so everybody's will be on the 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: same page that way, and really, you know, it gave 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: us the offensive line as you know too. It's just 77 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: once they kind of find their communication and comfort level 78 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: and then also within the system and they can start 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to play physical and move people around. You know, it's 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback again, you just go It's like a little 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: bit like we talked about a second ago. Now, Oh, 82 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the defense gotta bring the safety in the box. Oh, 83 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: this is a great passing look. I got one on 84 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: one with Kadarius Tony and Gala day now because they're 85 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: worried about se Quan and that's overpowering in the run game. 86 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: So like that was another thing that jumped out to 87 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: me about practice. I just the the amount of run 88 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: plays I saw they work on the run game. You know, 89 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm just not surprised to see it from a coach 90 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: that was, you know, in the Bill Belichick tree, that's 91 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: for sure. And Joe Judge. Now that's not in vogue though, right, 92 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: you talk to the analytics guy. All these guys are 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: into modern football. But how does that impact for someone 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: that played the position again, the quarterback. When you have 95 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: a sae Quan and you have a run game that 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: defenses are really worried about consistently not just getting to 97 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: three yards but maybe gouging you for big games, well 98 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, you're right, like it's not 99 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: the in vogue thing, but I think the really smart 100 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: offensive minds and football know right now, no, running the 101 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: ball and play action passes the most dangerous combination in 102 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the sport. Just with the Titans, Well, look at the Titans, 103 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: look at Shanahan, and the forty is going to the 104 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl McVeigh, alright, Sean Payton and them. I know 105 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: it was Drew Brees. They run first team the last 106 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: two years, the New England Patriots right now, and even 107 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: at the end of Brady's error there, it was more 108 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: of that type of play. So, you know, I think 109 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: it it helps your complete team when you play that 110 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: style of football to help your defense. They're on the 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: sideline resting, you're wearing out the team, and you know, 112 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and and really when you have the play action pass 113 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: available again Tampa and the Super Bowl, actually sure, we're 114 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: in the playoff front. It was run up the middle 115 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: with four net or play action pass protect Brady. We 116 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: got one on one he'll throw a strike that this 117 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: team can do that. And I think put some teams into, 118 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, some tough, tough positions. Is not that did 119 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: I answer the question? But that was that was That 120 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: was good. That was good. You know, you get me going. 121 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, by the way, not much unlike your dad, 122 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: by the way, just the record, Um, you mentioned this 123 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: before in your answer. I thought it was interesting. I 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: want to get jump back to it. Do you think 125 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was in some ways limited last year? And 126 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: how much he could do, because again, the offensive one struggled, 127 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: especially the first half of the year. You lose Barkley, 128 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: you have some injuries and wide receiver. Do you think 129 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: he had to alter the way he called the game 130 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: based on what was going on with the players. I 131 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt. You know, you have to 132 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: play an offensive style of football, and Jason, I mean, 133 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: he wants to be aggressive and throw the ball and 134 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: make big plays and do that, but he also knows 135 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: if you're not set up the right way, you can 136 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: end up getting blown out that way. If you can't 137 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: protect or people can't get old, they didn't get bad 138 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: real fast, can get real bad real fast. Exactly right. 139 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Your quarterback, he gets getting killed because he's holding the ball, 140 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: trying to throw the ball down the field and all 141 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: of those type of things. So, you know, I think, one, 142 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: it's a new place. You had a quarterback that was 143 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: only in year two last year who was in his 144 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: second system, so you're careful about how much you put 145 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. From that standpoint, and then all the 146 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: things you mentioned, it was like the perfect storm of like, Okay, 147 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: we just got to manage the offense. We can't just 148 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: attack people. And I think that's what you'll see differently 149 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: this year, is an attack and more pressure on defenses 150 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: from the Giants offense. I've been trying to given Giant 151 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: fans of that for seven months. I'm happy somebody that 152 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: played the game set it too, because that's what I 153 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: saw watching the tape too, that he had to protect 154 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback and with a good defense, that's your best 155 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: chance to win games. Definitely, they had to change the 156 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: way they played. They had to play a conservative offense. 157 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Let's win the game through the defense, keep the game close, 158 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: and we'll win by a field. Well at the end, 159 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: you know, if Jason Garrett just went out there and 160 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's like I was at the Cowboy 161 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: a few years ago. We're just gonna throw it everywhere, 162 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: the Giants would have got blown out in some games, 163 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: and who knows what the record would have been. Now 164 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: that's where again I'll go back to Joe Judge. The 165 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: one thing I'll say about him that jumped out to 166 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: me more than anything last year, win or loss, every 167 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: game I watched, I thought he managed the game and 168 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: the game plan was correct. Now everybody night many the 169 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: right play. I might have been mistake, But I thought 170 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the overall approach to what they had to do to 171 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: win that game was right almost every week. And to me, 172 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: now you add talent to that and all the other 173 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: things we said that we could get something going here. 174 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: I think the like the offensive skill guys are underrated 175 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: here and I think the country could find out about 176 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: them in September in a hurry. By the way, the 177 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: best coaches don't call the game they want to call. 178 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: They call the game that gives their team the best 179 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: chance to win, which can be two very different things. 180 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: By the way, well, yeah, I mean I was with 181 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: a coach early on in my career in John Gruden, 182 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: who taught me a ton of football. And don't get 183 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: me wrong, but there was games where he was just going, no, 184 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: this is what I do, and you want to go, yeah, 185 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: this is great, but we're gonna be in deep crap 186 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Have you seen that defense? Yeah? 187 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Right right? We we we can't play this style or 188 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: we don't match up with them that way. Um, no, 189 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: that is the game. The game in the NFL right 190 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: now is week to week game plan, game plans specific 191 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: for who you're playing. You can't just say this is 192 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: what we do, and we're gonna do it to all 193 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL that those days are over for 194 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the most part. Limited Giant season tickets are on sale 195 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: now for the season. 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You want him to kind of 212 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: match the explosive production he had at times as a 213 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: rookie with the better efficiency is a second year player 214 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: when he had fewer turnovers. Right, So what specifically do 215 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: you watch for with him on the field, watching tape, 216 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: watching whatever you do to think that he's going in 217 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: the right direction, is on the right track. I think 218 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: there's way more positive than negatives. That That's the first 219 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: thing I'll just say right away. And you know, you 220 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: know what I would say to all giant fans out 221 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: there is like, you know, what did you really expect 222 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: from the team and what he could do last year 223 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: with what his support system was and where everything was. 224 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: You know that, don't be unrealistic in the expectations, you know. 225 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: And again, I know it wasn't as good as he 226 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: wanted or maybe we all wanted, But there's still tremendous 227 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: physical ability. I mean, you tell me any other quarterbacks 228 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: that ran for an eight yard game last year. Oh, 229 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: that's right, there's only like Lamar Jackson, John. I mean, 230 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: he's so he's a special athlete that way. He's a 231 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: pretty good decision maker. He is throws a perfect spiral, 232 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: every throw, has a strong arm to make all the 233 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: throws right, and there's to me, there's only one negative 234 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones game. And you know a lot of 235 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: the things that we talk about, Yeah, our team oriented. 236 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say, and I don't even think 237 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: this is that bad of a thing is of course 238 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: him holding the ball in the pocket. It's the only negative. 239 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: It's the only thing I look at to go if 240 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: he can change that, he has the ability to be 241 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: a big time quarterback you know again the NFL right now. 242 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: And then what I say, that's a positive and a 243 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: lot of he's trying to do right and it shows 244 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: you he's fearless in the pocket, which is another positive thing. 245 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: It's just, hey, you gotta know your team. You gotta 246 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: know hey one too. When you start to get past 247 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: two in the NFL, unless you have like the best 248 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: offensive line of football, you gotta start thinking, I gotta move, 249 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: I gotta get in the pocket, I gotta void something. 250 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: And there was I think they're the plays that he 251 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: probably looked at and goes, wait, why am I still 252 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: patting the ball after I'm on the third read and 253 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: now I'm waiting for the fourth you know, play a 254 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: little bit more backyard football, I guess is what I 255 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: would say that's the only thing I look at as 256 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: a negative. And I think with the talent and now 257 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: another year in the same system, finally, I'd be shocked 258 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: if it wasn't a whole lot better. How do you 259 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: work on pocket presence as a quarterback? Is that natural? 260 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Can you practice that? You can practice it? You can? 261 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: You know. The one thing is you just gotta get 262 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: used to life in the NFL. Your turtle clock has 263 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: to change a little bit, and then they can drill 264 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: it too. You know, he's gotta have change his thought 265 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: about Okay, maybe he has to early on in the 266 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: year play it safe and just go I'm gonna go 267 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: one to two, and then if two is not open, 268 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at the pocket. You know, the good 269 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in football right now are looking at the pass 270 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: rush at some point, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Rogers, after they 271 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: hit that second read, they look around to go, wait, 272 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: am I in trouble? Can I sit here a little longer? 273 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: Or do I have to make a move? And I 274 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: think once he drills that in his brain, and you 275 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: can do things out here in the practice field to 276 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: help speed out that process, and of course bring that 277 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: to kind of the forefront of your brain a little 278 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: bit at the position final questions, where do the Giants 279 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: land in the NFC East? To break down the division 280 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: for me, could I could see any of three team 281 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: is winning this thing, and the Eagles of the Eagles, 282 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: So who knows? How do you break the whole thing now? 283 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: And where do you think the Giants lent? I'm gonna 284 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it like this, I only look at it. 285 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not all on the Cowboys, So I don't 286 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys can win the division. Defense and defense 287 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: is a problem, no doubt. I don't think you're gonna 288 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: see a hundred percent Dak Prescott hitting on all cylinders 289 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: right away during the year, especially right now. He's gotta 290 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: hurt lap muscle right all that. Philadelphia, I'd say, no way. 291 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: To me, It's gonna be Washington and the Giants. That's 292 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: what I really look at. I think the Washington is 293 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: very similar in the way they're built. Big awesome defensive line, 294 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: pretty good old line, better skill position guys in Washington. 295 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: They realized with Curtis Samuel and Terry McLaurin now to 296 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: go along with Gibson and running back where I go. 297 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: That's to me where I think it's gonna come down to. 298 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, let's let's see the NFC used to playing 299 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: the an f C West. This year, right, an f 300 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: C West is playing the NFC South. Yeah, okay, so 301 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: that's it's gonna be tough, There's no doubt about it. 302 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: But I think the Giants have a lot of the 303 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: core traits and things you need to be a play 304 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: off football team. The one thing I'll say after seeing today, 305 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: and I know I'm started talking too long, a's just 306 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: there is there's no team with this offense and defensive 307 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: line that the Giants aren't gonna say, wait, we can 308 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: match up with it, or they're they're not gonna have 309 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: any game. They're gonna go, well, we're we're all gonna 310 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: be overwhelmed up front. And to me, when you have 311 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: that and now you have some coaches who understand xs 312 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: and os in the back end of all those type 313 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: of things, you've got a chance to do something. So 314 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: in short, you're telling me the talent deficiency that maybe 315 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: we saw a couple of years ago that has dissipated. 316 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: I think it's dissipated. I think now it's just about 317 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: young guys learning to win, find their edge. People always 318 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: go there pros, they should know how to win. No, 319 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: winning in the NFL is not like high school or 320 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: college football where you can make fifteen mistakes and still go, 321 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: we won by ten. No, that doesn't happen in the NFL. 322 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Two mistakes and you could be going we lost by fourteen. 323 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, you can make no mistakes and go we 324 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: lost by seven. So it's a different way and you 325 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: do have to learn that as a young player what 326 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: it takes to kind of finish out games in the NFL. Chris, 327 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: you're very generous at your time. We appreciate it. Any time. 328 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: Get with your dad and your son and we'll talk 329 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: to you later. Ex Chris Simms on the Giants Little Podcast, 330 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: you thank you for joining us. Everybody make sure you 331 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: check us out on giants dot com, slash podcast at 332 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: John smoll, Blap, and your favorite podcast platforms. For Chris, 333 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm Schmilk. We'll see you next time.