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Speaker 5: here in just a few moments from now, how to

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Speaker 5: find out exactly why the hell, these Achilles injuries seem

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Speaker 5: to be happening the conversation away from the fact that

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Speaker 5: the Oklahoma City Thunder won the NBA Championship last night.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if anybody's going to go this direction.

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Speaker 5: Do you take away a little bit of the luster

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you could make an argument that

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Speaker 1: a different outcome. But again, they bounced back, they rallied

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Speaker 1: they just were ultimately unable to recover from how poorly

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Speaker 1: not only the poor play of Indiana in terms of

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Speaker 1: closing out on defense. But they they played, you know,

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Speaker 1: There were still moments in the fourth quarter. I think

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Speaker 1: And could Halliburton have made it easier for them to

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Speaker 5: And then now the conversation becomes what about next year?

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Speaker 1: Don't know that I flashed back, but I can feel

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Speaker 1: And there's just a lot of there's a lot that

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Speaker 5: Now let's turn it over to an expert in the field,

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Speaker 5: the one and only doctor David Chow joining us here

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Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio, Official injury expert for Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 5: and he's got live injury analysis at Sports Injury Central.

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Speaker 5: Ex NFL head team doctor for seventeen plus years as well. Doctor,

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Speaker 5: good morning, thanks for popping on with us here on

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, guys, But I don't know that

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Speaker 5: That is the question, right is did the calf strain?

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Speaker 5: Was that the lead up to this? In what happened

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of other additional aspects. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I just have to flash back a little bit. When

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Speaker 6: got so much hate that man, you're on your couch.

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Speaker 6: How do you know what he had? There's no way.

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Speaker 6: And now we got LeVar, We got all these people

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Speaker 6: That's what it looked like. And so it's come a

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Speaker 6: long way. But here's the point with this. First of

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Speaker 6: all AFRI game too. Remember he limped off the stage

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Speaker 6: saying he's got achilles tennanitis and tennanitis. A strain is

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Speaker 6: a partial tear. As LeVar says later in the series,

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Speaker 6: he had a calf muscle, is what he said. Injury.

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Speaker 6: But remember twenty nineteen Kevin Durant, it was a calf

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Speaker 6: in no way, shape or form am I criticizing the

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Speaker 6: this is Game seven, And to be fair, he helped

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Speaker 6: I mean, the unfortunate side of this is the biggest

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Speaker 6: loss of the Pacer is not the NBA Finals, but

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Speaker 6: they're gonna lose him for basically all of next season

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Speaker 6: with this recovery. You know this, LeVar, you know how

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Doc, when you see an injury like that take

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Speaker 1: He clearly does not tear his or fully rupture his

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Speaker 6: Well, I think you can try. You can't predict the future,

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Speaker 6: but I'm sure you've had these conversations before. In the NFL,

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Speaker 6: a simple concept called informed consent. This is what the

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Speaker 6: the ball went through Kevin Durant and he popped his achilles.

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Speaker 5: So, is it me or have we seen an uptick

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Speaker 5: And have we seen that an uptick in the achilles

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Speaker 5: official injury expert for Fox Sports Radio. He's got live

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Speaker 5: injury analysis at Sports Injury Central. Rather x NFL head

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Speaker 5: team doctor for seventeen plus years, Doctor Chow, we appreciate

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Speaker 6: Thank you. I hope Brady didn't. But blood and achilles and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's they didn't just lose one NBA finals

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Speaker 1: But you can't hold it against him. No, you know,

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Speaker 1: That was my last play, and I knew it was

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Speaker 1: my last play. That was It kind of sucks. That's wild,

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Speaker 1: but that's not Halliburton's situation, which is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: That's not going to be the end of him. But

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Speaker 1: I just it was definitely the end of me.

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Speaker 5: And it does sound like yours was going to go

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Speaker 5: regardless there was going on. There was no preventative possibility there.

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Speaker 1: I was stretching that joint. I was I was rehabing it,

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Speaker 1: prehabing it, whatever you want to call it. I was

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Speaker 1: stemming it. I was doing the ice tubs. I was

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Speaker 1: doing the boots. I was, Jonas, there was not one.

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Speaker 1: I acupunctured it everything. I did everything that you could

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Speaker 1: possibly do preventatively to try not to to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to rupture it because I felt my heel was tight.

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Speaker 1: I felt it. I was doing the incline board every

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Speaker 1: day like for like minutes, like literally ten fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: I'd be stretching that bad boy out, both of them.

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Speaker 1: Just stretch out, stretch your back out, stretch your it

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Speaker 1: bands out, stretch you know, stretch your hamstrings, like just

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Speaker 1: stretching everything to try to make sure that you were

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Speaker 1: flexible and not. That thing did not win anyway, damn.

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Speaker 5: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here

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Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you

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Speaker 5: coming up next. Though apparently somebody thinks they've got a

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Speaker 5: lot of power. They've got a lot of power, a

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Speaker 5: lot of pull, a lot of say so with their

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Speaker 5: organization in the NFL. We'll get into that for you

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Speaker 5: right here on FSR.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good if you ask me, I mean I

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Speaker 1: like that one a lot.

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Speaker 3: Was that a Lee and corvalis again? He sent that over?

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Speaker 3: Thank you Lee. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Some have argued that's the the number one Lee on

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Speaker 5: this show today is well.

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Speaker 1: I mean debatable for every other one too.

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Speaker 5: All Right, it is two pros and a cup of

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Speaker 5: Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up, we are

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Speaker 5: going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers, though. That'll

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Speaker 5: be yours here in about ten minutes from now. Tyreek

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Speaker 5: Hill apparently thinks he's got a lot of stroke, a

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Speaker 5: lot of say with the Miami Dolphins. He had the

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Speaker 5: following to say at Fanatics Fest over the weekend in

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Speaker 5: regards to Jalen Ramsey quote, I'm going to hang out

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Speaker 5: with Ramsey. I'm going to get him back full court press.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting him Ramsey back in a Dolphins jersey. I

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Speaker 5: don't care what they say. It's tampering whatever. We need Ramsey.

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Speaker 5: He's a dog. He's one of the best corners in

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Speaker 5: the league. Great leader, great teammate too. That's what he

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Speaker 5: doesn't get a lot of credit for. We just need

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Speaker 5: him on the Dolphins, man. And so that from Tyreek Hill,

496
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Speaker 5: which is interesting because apparently, uh, this has already been

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Speaker 5: set in motion. Jalen Ramsey most likely going to get

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Speaker 5: dealt by the Dolphins. He prefers to be on the

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Speaker 5: West Coast. The Rams the Chargers have been rumored as

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Speaker 5: potential landing spots for Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 3: But it's just funny, you know.

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Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill, after the final game of last year with

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins want to you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean, So, now what happened here? Wait a second.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like the Spider Man meme. Everybody, every

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Speaker 1: Spider Man point, every other spider Man like you too.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, if I'm staying, you got a state.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's it's just an interesting turn of events

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Speaker 5: there because Tyreek Hill wanted nothing to do with the

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Speaker 5: Dolphins after last year, and now he's the main recruiter.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like when when Vegas casinos hires some

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Speaker 5: who's stolen from them to also work a security It's like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know, but we'll welcome me in. Don't worry, Like

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Speaker 5: even though you were counting cards and trying to screw

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Speaker 5: us over and screw us out of money, We'll walk

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Speaker 5: me in and now you can work for us. And

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Speaker 5: now they're they're calling everything out that they see that

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Speaker 5: is enough to snuff. Yeah, it's just Tyreek Hills had

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Speaker 5: a kind of.

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Speaker 1: A very interesting season, let's say the least a very

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Speaker 1: interesting one. I mean, at least Miami fans know he

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Speaker 1: wants to come back now and not leave the team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, whether he was upset wanted to leave the team,

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Speaker 1: or not, which I'll be curious to see how it ends.

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Speaker 1: Because Stefan Diggs did that after a playoff game, and

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Speaker 1: what was it two years later he was gone, I

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Speaker 1: think one year later, one season after. It was one season,

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Speaker 1: one season after and then he was gone. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how it to turn out for treek Hill. When Tarik

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Speaker 1: is on, he's on, and when he's on in Miami

532
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Speaker 1: with Tua and Tua is healthy, they're on. They are on.

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Speaker 1: So you can get over an athlete being upset and

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Speaker 1: saying he doesn't want to come back or he's at

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Speaker 1: the end. I feel like whatever it is that happened

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Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey and Mike McDaniel and the organization, it

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Speaker 1: just seems as though it's not one of those repairable

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Speaker 1: type of deals. It's like something was said or somebody

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Speaker 1: felt a certain type of way and there was a

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Speaker 1: turn off that took place, and now it's just time

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Speaker 1: to move on. That's the feeling I get. I could

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Speaker 1: be all the way wrong. Just so everyone's clear, I'm

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Speaker 1: not basing not off of any concrete, you know, evidence,

544
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Speaker 1: I don't want it to be based off of that,

545
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Speaker 1: but just seeing historically how Jalen Ramsey handles things. He

546
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Speaker 1: seems to be an intensely and fiercely loyal dude. But

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Speaker 1: if you valulate that he's just as intense and just

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Speaker 1: as fierce on that disrespect or that you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is, the lack of compliance or whatever it is

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Speaker 1: that that made him feel the opposite way. I get

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Speaker 1: that that's his type of energy, Like he's not in

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Speaker 1: between halfway there, halfway not their type of person.

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Speaker 5: It just feels like the same thing I feel about

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Speaker 5: George Pickens, and I'm for you know, obviously two different careers,

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Speaker 5: and George Pickens is trying to find his way, you know,

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Speaker 5: in the NFL Tyreek Hills. You can argue he's already

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Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer based on his numbers, He's won

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Speaker 5: a soup, like, all the credentials are there. He's fantastic,

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Speaker 5: but you're just it only takes one game where they

560
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Speaker 5: don't get the ball or they get asked a question

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Speaker 5: the wrong way following a game in which they struggle,

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Speaker 5: and then it just sets everything off again. And it

563
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Speaker 5: just feels like you're at that point with Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 5: to where he goes from not wanting to be with

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Speaker 5: the team at the end of the year. Then he's

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Speaker 5: apologetic afterwards and says he does want to be with

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Speaker 5: the team, and then you've got all the other drama

568
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: in the off season where you know, they show him

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Speaker 5: on a balcony holding his young child and there's an

570
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Speaker 5: argument that was had or something along those lines, and

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Speaker 5: then he's wanting to race Noah Lyles, and now he's

572
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Speaker 5: trying to petition to keep Jalen Ramsey. With your organization,

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Speaker 5: it just feels like we're at a point to where

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Speaker 5: it's going to take one game, one poor performance, and

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Speaker 5: to your point, it's going to fire off again. It's

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Speaker 5: just going to take one and then here we go again.

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Speaker 1: It's just just how some of these athletes are wired. Man,

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Speaker 1: they're just wired to when it doesn't go the way

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Speaker 1: that because they're so ultra competitive, when it doesn't go

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Speaker 1: the way that they want to go, it can't possibly

581
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Speaker 1: be them, that's the reason. Right, So when it doesn't

582
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: go right, I didn't get enough balls or you didn't

583
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Speaker 1: put me in the right defense to be able to

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Speaker 1: get it done, Like it just depends on you know,

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Speaker 1: what the relationship is. And now that makes me wonder, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. It seemingly he wants out. Mike McDaniels seems

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Speaker 1: to be content and okay with him being out. Is

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Speaker 1: this a better team with Jalen Ramsey or a better

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Speaker 1: team without Jalen Ramsey? And I think we would all

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Speaker 1: come to the conclusion they're a better team with them.

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Speaker 1: Would would you agree with that? So there has to

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Speaker 1: be something wrong. There has to be some type of

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Speaker 1: an issue if you're the Miami Dolphins and you're talking

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Speaker 1: about we're trying to deal Jalen Ramsey when you're not

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Speaker 1: a team that's won a Super Bowl, you're not a

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Speaker 1: team that's even came close to winning the Super Bowl,

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00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: and yet you're going to try to deal one your

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Speaker 1: your better players. It just comes across as what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What is the culture? You know, we thought that there

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Speaker 1: was an established culture. Were we wrong? I mean, as

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels, is it is it turning into a Lulu

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Speaker 1: Liming building? You know? Is it is it turning into

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Speaker 1: a Cardier Glasses building?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what we got super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: They haven't won a playoff game since Dan Marino was

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Speaker 5: a pit like it's been a They've got the longest

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Speaker 5: playoff drought.

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Speaker 1: That mareno took them to the super Bowl. I know,

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Speaker 1: but they've It's just it's funny.

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Speaker 3: It's trying to.

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Speaker 1: Give you a little shoto. It was kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: They've got the longest playoff drought in the NFL. The

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Speaker 5: Lions had it, and then the Lions started winning playoff games,

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Speaker 5: and now the Dolphins have it. And I think it's

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Speaker 5: we're coming up on twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I believe a long time play That's a really long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty two. I was twenty two years old

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Speaker 1: at the last time they they want a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: I think ty look at me on YouTube. Yah, I

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Speaker 1: think we're a hat today.

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Speaker 5: I think Tyreek Hill was five. It's like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 5: they got some work to do. It is two pros

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Speaker 5: might smell.

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Speaker 6: A little fun.

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Speaker 2: That sounds incredible, but they're still good. Time to find

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Speaker 2: out what's left. It's Lee's lap job, all right, d

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Speaker 2: lap What do we got?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: It truly is the start of summer.

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Speaker 9: Looking at a heat wave going across the country in

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Speaker 9: triple digits here in so Cow as well as all

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Speaker 9: of rest of the country.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we got heat waves.

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Speaker 9: Okay, looking at it right now on the old doppler.

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Speaker 9: Uh yeah, So everybody stay cool out there, go kicking

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Speaker 9: by the pool like must.

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Speaker 1: Be in the South Bay. Does it give that in particular?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got any South Bay weather?

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Speaker 4: Let's see ye period, let's see, let's see you're gonna

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Speaker 4: be yeah, just cracking into the eighties today, looking like

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Speaker 4: it's looking nice down in the South Bay.

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Speaker 9: It'd be hard to get there because, uh we'll go

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Speaker 9: from weather to traffic.

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Speaker 1: It would be hard to get.

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Speaker 9: There if you would, if you were in studio today

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Speaker 9: because southbound four five is closed down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gnarly crash.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a there's there's an accident out here, and

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Speaker 5: they're showing the map and you know that there's some

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Speaker 5: probably some stuff lying on the road that they don't

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Speaker 5: want people to see. Why people, Yeah, because it is

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Speaker 5: closed off for miles before you even get to where

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Speaker 5: the crash happened. So there's stuff all over the place.

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Speaker 5: So they got to get that sorted out.

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Speaker 9: But you know what else we got me, Well, let's

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Speaker 9: get a little update on the diddy k. The prosecution

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Speaker 9: is closing their case on the ditty six weeks after

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Speaker 9: of testimony. The prosecutors will close their case today closing arguments,

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Speaker 9: and then we'll get the defense after that.

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Speaker 3: So we'll get some more updates as the week goes on.

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Speaker 3: What is this for? Like what exactly a racket?

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Speaker 1: Is a rico?

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Speaker 9: Like racketeering, racketearing, trafficking, assault, some other stuff that I

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Speaker 9: have deleted.

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Speaker 1: Trafficking. Yeah, it doesn't seem like that is all they're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Is the freak off?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't like what is he actually there's

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Speaker 3: a trow.

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Speaker 1: For being a freak basically? Yeah, part of it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think he's going to walk.

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Speaker 3: Do you really think he's gonna walk?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think he's going to walk sticks. That's funny.

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Speaker 1: That's funny. I mean I bet you there's that's going

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Speaker 1: in on it. He's gonna walk