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Speaker 2: got a thriller in South Bend. De Sager just told you.

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Speaker 2: But Ohio State scores with one second left on the clock,

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Speaker 2: Orse somewhere around there. Unbelievable finish, unbelievable game. They survive

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Speaker 2: the top ten matchup against Notre Dame. Seventeen to fourteen

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Speaker 2: is the final score. Jason Martin, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: A man?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. You know, we had all of this

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Speaker 1: great football throughout the day, and we knew some of

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Speaker 1: it would turn out to be a dud, but we

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Speaker 1: did get bookended today with some outstanding stuff. Now, I

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Speaker 1: know there's some games going on and maybe there's more

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Speaker 1: to come, but you got Florida State Clemson to open

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Speaker 1: the day that goes to overtime. That's a great game.

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Speaker 1: And then what we just witnessed in South Bend was

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Speaker 1: just those were both really hard fought, really physical, just

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Speaker 1: nail biting kind of games, and that's why we love

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Speaker 1: college football. But it was awesome to see that thing

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Speaker 1: come to an end about ten minutes ago and know

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Speaker 1: that the first thing that I am tasked to do

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Speaker 1: after that is to jump on the radio and talk

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Speaker 1: to the country about that football game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, you know, I mean usually, I mean

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Speaker 2: in this time slot, stuff's always happening, and we're privileged

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Speaker 2: to do this. I don't know what the take is

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Speaker 2: on Ohio State Notre Dame. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 2: for people who missed, it comes down to the wire.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State is on the road in South Bend. By

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Speaker 2: the way, this was one of many many great games today.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't mention that, but this was obviously the headliner.

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Speaker 2: And yes, it comes down to the final seconds. Ohio

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Speaker 2: State completes an incredible play. Again, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: final score was seventeen to fourteen. I should specify that,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just trying to set the scene here for

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Speaker 2: what happened.

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Speaker 1: In the one yes that you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was gonna say. So they trail

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Speaker 2: obviously goes out saying fourteen to ten. They get the

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Speaker 2: ball back about a minute twenty five left, go the

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Speaker 2: length of the field, and as Jason reference, there was

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Speaker 2: a third and nineteen play on the Notre Dame twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, the player who is technically and only his

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Speaker 2: really his what second career starts it's his fourth, but

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Speaker 2: only a second since being named the starter, gets the

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Speaker 2: ball inside the five, and then Ryan Day, who was

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Speaker 2: criticized for some play calling stuff earlier in the game.

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Speaker 2: They decide on the final play what essentially amounts to

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Speaker 2: win or go home. They decide to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: They give it to Chip train them excuse me, a

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Speaker 2: one yard touchdown score as Ohio State survives. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't, Jason, I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Ryan Day and his postgame sound, now,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately we're a few guys down tonight, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we'll be able to get that sound. But in

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Speaker 2: his post game you can see the emotion. You can

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Speaker 2: hear the emotion calling out the critics. That includes apparently

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Speaker 2: Lou Holtz, who said something this week that I that

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Speaker 2: must have slipped through through the cracks as far as

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned. But former Notre Dame head coach called out

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Speaker 2: Ohio State and Ryan Day in the post game. But

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Speaker 2: I'm rambling, Jason cut me off here. The bottom line is,

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Speaker 2: you could see how much this meant to Ryan Day.

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Speaker 2: You could see how much it meant to Ohio State

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Speaker 2: as they hold on to win seventeen to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it was a huge game, and it

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Speaker 1: was a top ten matchup. It was two undefeated teams

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Speaker 1: I don't know after watching it which team I thought

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Speaker 1: in terms of just pure all skill talent, then yes,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is a better football team. But you saw

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Speaker 1: a very well coached team on the Notre Dame side,

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Speaker 1: and I was just impressed with both defenses for the

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Speaker 1: went off on Lou Holtz in pregame as well. So

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Speaker 1: here's what Holts said. Let me go ahead and tell

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Speaker 1: it because I didn't know he had said anything either,

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Speaker 1: but he said this on the Pat McFee show. He said,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame wins by ten. I believe that they're a

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Speaker 1: better football team in the Ohio State. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you why. We have the best O line in the country.

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Speaker 1: Sam Hartman won't get his dirty his jersey dirty all year.

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Speaker 1: He has time to throw the ball. We have great

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Speaker 1: have great receivers, so we're set. You look at coach Day,

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Speaker 1: and I coached at Ohio State under Woody Hayes. We

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Speaker 1: of that. However, Day has lost to Alabama, Georgia, Clemson,

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Speaker 1: because they're more physical than Ohio State, and I think

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame will take that same approach. That's that's what

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Speaker 1: Lou Holtz said.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what the sager quick on his

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Speaker 2: feet with the sound from Ryan Day, I'm gonna toss

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Speaker 2: over the news desk to Sager. Has that sound give

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Speaker 2: us one second, we're efforting the sound.

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Speaker 4: I cannot believe. This is a tough team right here.

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Speaker 4: We're proud to be from Ohio. It's always been Ohio

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Speaker 4: against the world. It'll continue to be Ohio against the world.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, I love those kids who

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Speaker 4: got a tough team.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much to Sager.

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Speaker 1: And I cannot believe by the way was in rev

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Speaker 2: But no, no, it's okay. I just think it speaks

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Speaker 2: to you know, we we we do this thing where,

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Speaker 2: you know, we we try to make every game out

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Speaker 2: to be like I think coaches especially, like it's just

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Speaker 2: one game and it's just not gonna define our season.

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Speaker 2: You can just hear in that sound, like you could

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Speaker 2: just hear in the sound how much this game meant

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Speaker 2: to Ryan Day, Like that's you know, if I have

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Speaker 2: this game, it's that, yes, Ohio State won. Yes they

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Speaker 2: very much are in great position going forward, because obviously

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Speaker 2: the schedule gets gets continually tough. Penn State obviously later

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Speaker 2: you have obviously some at Wisconsin. Whatever. The point I'm

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Speaker 2: think sometimes, like we even in the media, coaches tell

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Speaker 2: what you guys are saying. And that just shows me

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Speaker 2: how much this meant to him and how these guys

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Speaker 2: sound again just shows to me, Jason, how much this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they knew they had the world watching this one.

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Speaker 1: We were all super excited about this kind of being

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Speaker 1: the nightcapper to this great day of all these ranked games.

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Speaker 1: And I think the one thing about Ohio State to

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Speaker 1: this point in the season was Kyle McCord has played quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but he's not been memorable, Like there's been nothing about

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Speaker 1: It's not like it was a dropped interception. It was

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Speaker 2: Well, and I was gonna say too. You know, you

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Speaker 2: mentioned that, you know, there's nothing like he doesn't pop

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Speaker 2: the thing, though, maybe that's not who Ohio State is

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Speaker 2: Ryan Day's comments after the game was that basically this

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame offense has been unstoppable all year. They hold

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Speaker 2: Sam Hartman and the passing game to one hundred and

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Speaker 2: So you know, maybe we just you know, and this

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Speaker 2: break down where they they rank on the Big ten

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Speaker 2: for Penn State all that, But maybe this is just

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Speaker 2: a different Ohio State team. Maybe they don't have the

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Speaker 2: good Marvin Marvin Harrison is a Mechabuka, the quote unquote

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Speaker 2: of the draft, had seven catches for ninety eight yards. Today,

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Speaker 2: Trevion Henderson, the running back who was banged up for

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Speaker 2: than what we are used to with Ohio State. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't make it a good thing or a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: It just makes it a different thing. But when you

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Speaker 2: reference you know, Kyle McCord being solid, being steady, maybe

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Speaker 2: that's who they are. And by the way, maybe that's

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Speaker 2: a good thing for Ohio State this year. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: don't have to score forty forty five points to win

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's relevant. I also think

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Speaker 1: they kind of remind you a little bit of Michigan

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Speaker 1: like three years ago, don't they like because they don't

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback that leaps off the page. But they've

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Speaker 1: got a great defense and they run the ball pretty

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Speaker 4: Toughness, that's it, physicality across the board, finish it off

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I love those kids who get a tough team. What

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants to question these guys. These guys are warriors

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Speaker 4: When someone attacks your family, to come in and win

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Speaker 2: That was a fired up Ryan Day as Ohio State

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Speaker 1: It's not accurate.

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Speaker 1: Right every moment.

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Speaker 5: The Cinderella story.

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Speaker 6: This game ain't gonna be playing in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be played on the grass pan.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what Ryan Day did his talking after the game.

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Speaker 1: Then it went kind of how we thought it was

436
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Speaker 1: going to. I don't know that everybody voiced it, but

437
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: this is what was supposed to happen, outside of Shador

438
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: Sanders and Hunter, who wasn't there because he's got a

439
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: lacerated liver, which by the way, sounds terrible. And we

440
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: saw the hit that caused it last week. I mean,

441
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 1: you saw against Nebraska and then you saw last week

442
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: against Colorado State that this is very much a work

443
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: in progress. It's already a success. They're three no, that's

444
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: three times as wins they had all of last season,

445
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Speaker 1: and they're not done. They're gonna win more games this year,

446
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Speaker 1: but they're not gonna beat Oregon. Oregon's a program that's

447
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: been an institution for I don't know how long in

448
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Speaker 1: college football. This was not one. You weren't going to

449
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 1: autin and winning this game. You just weren't. They were

450
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: a three touchdown underdog, and I did here before that.

451
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: Dion loved that it was his number, and I love

452
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Speaker 1: that people are thinking this way about us. Well they

453
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: should be, because you're not better at virtually anything than

454
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Speaker 1: Oregon is. You don't have the talent yet that they do.

455
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: You're a program and it's very infant and see, and

456
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: this was kind of like this was the this was

457
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Speaker 1: the check. This is where you ran into the boss

458
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Speaker 1: where you weren't prepared for it in the video game

459
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Speaker 1: and you had to go back and you know, find

460
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Speaker 1: your way to level up before you step back up

461
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Speaker 1: into that mix. Because this Oregon team was ready for

462
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Speaker 1: prime time. They've been in games like this before. For Colorado,

463
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Speaker 1: coming off that huge television audience, in that big time

464
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: performance last week and to come back, Uh, they just

465
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: weren't able to get up for this. But even if

466
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Speaker 1: they were, they just didn't have enough. We knew coming in.

467
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: Their offensive line was a problem. Should Or Sanders was

468
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: sacked three times before the game was like five minutes old.

469
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Speaker 1: You knew one team was just far bigger, far better,

470
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: and just far more advanced than the other one was.

471
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Speaker 1: It's not that the Colorado experiments of failure. It's that

472
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Speaker 1: we expected them to go three and zero and then

473
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Speaker 1: go lose badly to Oregon and USC and I still

474
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Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. Listen, I'll say that first, I'll say this.

476
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: I think I and maybe you are like the only

477
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 2: neutral Dion Sanders people going like, I think you and

478
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: I are both kind of tempered, Like I actually really

479
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: enjoy it. I actually think he's done a good coaching

480
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: job this year because I don't think that they are

481
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Speaker 2: very talented out It's not that I don't think that

482
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Speaker 2: they're talented, but but I'll just share some numbers that

483
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Speaker 2: I pulled earlier today because I was curious looking this up.

484
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Speaker 2: There are one hundred and thirty three teams in FBS

485
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Speaker 2: football right now. Okay, Colorado came into today, so these

486
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Speaker 2: numbers are probably worse. After Out of one hundred and

487
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Speaker 2: thirty three teams, they were ranked one hundred and twenty

488
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Speaker 2: fifth in total defense, one hundred and twenty ninth in

489
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Speaker 2: rushing offense, and one hundred and thirtieth in sacks. Allout, Jason,

490
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Speaker 2: I'm not a x's and o's guru here, but when

491
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: you can't defend anybody, when you can't run the football

492
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Speaker 2: because the O line can't run, block or protect the quarterback,

493
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Speaker 2: like this is kind of what happens when you play

494
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Speaker 2: a complete team, and a complete team that was clearly motivated.

495
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Speaker 2: I think the thing if there's a silver lining for Colorado.

496
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Speaker 2: I think the silver lining is that it's clear that

497
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Speaker 2: there is a lot of playing time to be had,

498
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Speaker 2: and that is the kind of team that Deon Sanders

499
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Speaker 2: is trying to build at Colorado. I think he's gonna

500
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Speaker 2: get there. He said after the game, this is the

501
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Speaker 2: worst that we're ever gonna be, so you better come

502
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Speaker 2: get us now. And I think that that Oregon, they

503
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: just look what I think Colorado wants to look like

504
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: here over the next three, four five years, I said

505
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Speaker 2: after the game. My first reaction was, you know, I

506
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Speaker 2: think I don't want to say it's the best thing that

507
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Speaker 2: could have ever happened to Colorado, but I Deon Sanders

508
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: in on the bus ride back to the airport should

509
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: have been texting every five star offensive lineman and defensive lineman, saying,

510
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: you saw Little Wayne last week, you saw the Rock

511
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: last week. Come be part of what you're doing. I know,

512
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: by the way, there's plenty of playing time to be

513
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Speaker 2: had here. So that's really my only takeaway is, like

514
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Speaker 2: you and I remember talking before the season. I said,

515
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: we both said, like, it isn't inconceivable that this team

516
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: starts one in four when you factor in TCU within

517
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Speaker 2: the opener Nebraska and then of course Oregon today, USC

518
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: at home next week, and so nothing has changed from

519
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: my perspective. I think, if anything, they've really overachieved through

520
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: three weeks, but that shows you how far they have

521
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Speaker 2: to go if they really truly want to be a lead.

522
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Speaker 1: I think that recruiting point is a million percent true,

523
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Speaker 1: and I think that's I mean, I didn't think about

524
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Speaker 1: it from that perspective. I kind of went the old

525
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Speaker 1: school route and thought, if I'm Dion, like you never

526
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Speaker 1: want to lose. But there was a reality check moment

527
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Speaker 1: today and it wasn't necessarily for Dion, because I think

528
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Speaker 1: Dion was fully aware. But I think maybe it's possible

529
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Speaker 1: that some of the players were starting to feel themselves

530
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Speaker 1: a little bit, not because of anything I saw, but

531
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Speaker 1: just because it would be natural to start feeling yourself

532
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Speaker 1: a little bit when you're three and zero and you're

533
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Speaker 1: kind of the bell of the ball and everybody's talking

534
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Speaker 1: about you left and right. Today was the moment where

535
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Speaker 1: Dion can go into practice tomorrow or on Monday and say,

536
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Speaker 1: I told you we had a lot of work to do.

537
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Now let's get to work like that's what the current guys.

538
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: But your point's more about the future, and it's exactly right.

539
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: You call him up and you're like, hey, you saw

540
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: what happened in Audson. This is why we need you, brother,

541
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: This is why we need you. Come be part of

542
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Speaker 1: the show. And you mentioned the celebrities, and you mentioned everything,

543
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the entertainment value and how everybody's putting

544
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: cameras all over the Colorado program. Say never, you know,

545
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: never let it be said that NFL scouts aren't going

546
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: to know your name if you play at Colorado because

547
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: the cameras are going to be here. He's got a

548
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Speaker 1: lot to sell, and you're right, one of the most

549
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: important things he has to sell is, dude, you can

550
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: get in on the ground floor of the rebirth of

551
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Apple basically right now, because everybody's gonna be continuing to

552
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: talk about us, but it's brand new. Next year is

553
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: going to be year two of the prime experience. Come

554
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: here and be a part of this. People will know

555
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: your name like it's gonna be something that he can sell.

556
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: So I don't think this was all bad because it

557
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: did remind his players this is the process. This ain't easy,

558
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: and there are people out there who are better than

559
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: you and want you to know it. It's going to

560
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: be hard and for the future. I think it's good too,

561
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Speaker 1: And I think it just reminded us that what we've

562
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Speaker 1: seen has been fun and cool. But this is not

563
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Speaker 1: a team that needs to be talked about in the

564
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Speaker 1: upper echelons of the sport.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think most people who understand the sport

566
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: but you know, understand that aspect of it. And I

567
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Speaker 2: think if anything, you know again, they've overachieved. Now the

568
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: goal is get Boil eligible, get those extra practices, and

569
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: go hit that portal really hard, and go hit the

570
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Speaker 2: recruiting really hard. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tors Jason Martin

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576
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Speaker 2: to react a little bit more to those Dan Lanning comments.

577
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: Jason do want to talk obviously about the rest of

578
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: a busy day in college football, but we got some

579
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: big games going on right now, so it's only appropriate

580
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk Steve de Sager, what's trending?

581
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: I was gonna. I was trying to quote Ryan Day

582
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: in my head, but I couldn't remember what he said.

583
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: Why'd you doubt me? And Jason Martin to Sager, why

584
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: don't you doubt us? I'm glad to against the world.

585
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Speaker 2: Oh sorry.

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Speaker 8: The cut that he was referring to of old coach

587
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 8: Lou Holds when he talked postgame tonight Ohio State one

588
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 8: at Notre Dame seventeen fourteen. This is what Holds has

589
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 8: said during his interview on Friday in South Bend Pat

590
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Speaker 8: McAfee show on the ESPN again, not game day, but

591
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Speaker 8: day before, and everybody beats him does so because they're

592
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Speaker 8: more physical than the Ohio State and I think Notre

593
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Speaker 8: Day will take that same approach. Yeah, well then Bryan

594
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 8: today or physical. Well, let's remember the truth of this game.

595
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Speaker 8: As exciting as the last play was, each team was

596
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Speaker 8: stopped on fourth and one twice in the game, four

597
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 8: times total unsuccessful on fourth and one. So if Ohio

598
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Speaker 8: State doesn't get the one yard TD with one second

599
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 8: left to win, the game. I think we have a

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Speaker 8: narrative that would be continuing. Just for the record. The Irish,

601
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Speaker 8: also for the record, missed a forty seven yard field

602
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Speaker 8: goal in the first half and lost at home seventeen

603
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Speaker 8: to fourteen. You mentioned Oregon that final was forty two

604
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Speaker 8: to six over Colorado. Today Oregon had its largest ever

605
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Speaker 8: halftime lead over a ranked opponent, thirty five nothing, and

606
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Speaker 8: it was up to forty two zip early in the

607
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Speaker 8: second half. Quarterback bo nicks four total touchdowns, all in

608
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Speaker 8: the first half. Colorado finished with eight punts twelve penalties.

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Speaker 8: Number four Florida State won in overtime at Clemson thirty

610
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Speaker 8: one twenty four. Clemson missed a twenty nine yard field

611
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Speaker 8: goal attempt with under two minutes left in regulation. Victories

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Speaker 8: in the top ten for Georgia and Michigan for Texas

613
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Speaker 8: and Penn State. On Fox TV, the late game has

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Speaker 8: Number five USC leading at Arizona State to seven early

615
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Speaker 8: in the second quarter, and right now at number eight Washington,

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Speaker 8: it's the Huskies thirty one twelve over cows In can

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Speaker 8: that happen?

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Speaker 1: I swore it was fourteen to seven. I looked down

619
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Speaker 1: and then I looked back up. Like five minutes later

620
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Speaker 1: and it was thirty one to six. It's like, what

621
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Speaker 1: just happened?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they got two touchdowns the center, two scores back

623
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Speaker 8: to back late first quarter, and then scored early in

624
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Speaker 8: the second quarter. So it went from fourteen to six

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Speaker 8: to thirty one six pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be so on brand for Oregon, Washington and

627
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Speaker 2: USC to be like three of the five best teams

628
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Speaker 2: in the country and all beating each other and missed

629
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Speaker 2: the playoffs and then leaves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh and then well that's it implied. I mean,

632
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Speaker 2: everybody's e By.

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Speaker 8: The way, this is thirty one points in not even

634
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Speaker 8: a quarter and a half at Washington and Michael Pennox

635
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Speaker 8: only as ninety two yards passing, so stand by. Meanwhile,

636
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Speaker 8: the Washington State quarterback cam Ward had four hundred four

637
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Speaker 8: yards passing five total touchdowns. This was the earlier game

638
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Speaker 8: tonight on Fox TV. Cougar's thirty eight to thirty five

639
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Speaker 8: over Oregon State in a top twenty five match at

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Speaker 8: the PAC twelve conference has eight ranked teams this week.

641
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Speaker 8: And how about the Big Ten. No, we're not talking

642
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Speaker 8: about the Ohio State victory on the road. Indiana has

643
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Speaker 8: just won in four overtimes against Akron twenty nine to

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Speaker 8: twenty seven, and quite the comeback for Northwestern. They were

645
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Speaker 8: trailing at home to Minnesota. Northwestern with three touchdowns in

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Speaker 8: the fourth quarter to send it to overtime. Wildcats thirty

647
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Speaker 8: seven thirty four over Minnesota in ot That deficit overcome

648
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Speaker 8: by Northwestern tonight was their largest entering a fourth quarter

649
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Speaker 8: in any win in school history. The record had been

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Speaker 8: twenty point deficit early nineteen nineties at Illinois. By the way,

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Speaker 8: Utah beat UCLA fourteen to seven in a game where

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Speaker 8: the Utes scored on a pick six on the game's

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Speaker 8: a short field goal in the final seconds against Arkansas

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Speaker 8: thirty four to thirty one. Victories for Alabama and Oklahoma,

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Speaker 8: wins for Duke and Miami, for Tennis and Florida, and

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Speaker 8: by the way, Texas Tech was beaten by West Virginia

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Speaker 8: twenty to thirteen. Multiple reports day Texas Tech quarterback Tyler

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Speaker 8: Schuck suffered a broken leg to Major League Baseball. What

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Speaker 8: a comeback for the Pirates. They've existed since the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 8: This was their largest comeback win in team history. They

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Speaker 8: were trailing at Cincinnati nine to nothing after the third inning,

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Speaker 8: nine to one. In the sixth Pirates win the game

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Speaker 8: thirteen to twelve. We've got just over a week left

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Speaker 8: in the regular season. That is crushing for the Reds.

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Speaker 8: Texas shut out Seattle to nothing. The Rangers are first

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Speaker 8: in the AL West. Wins for the Cubs in Miami,

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Speaker 8: the Brewers magic number to clinch. The NL Central still

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Speaker 8: won over the Cubs, and we had rainouts at Yankee

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Speaker 8: Stadium and in DC. We're gonna have rain for NFL

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Speaker 8: games in the DC area. That means Baltimore as well,

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Speaker 8: and probably with the Jets too.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sega. Fox

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Speaker 2: we will react more to those Dan Landing comments before

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Speaker 2: the Colorado Oregon game for half a second and a

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Speaker 2: couple things. First of all, Uh, Lorena, go ahead. Play

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Speaker 2: that Dan Lanning sound from before the game rooted.

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Speaker 6: In substance, cot flash rooted in substance. Today we talk

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Speaker 6: with our past.

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Speaker 1: Right every moment.

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Speaker 7: The Cinderella story's over, man, Right, they're fighting for clicks,

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Speaker 7: we're fighting for wins. There's a difference, right, there's a difference.

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Speaker 7: This game ain't gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be playing in Hollywood. It's gonna be played on the grass. Pran,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be playing on the grass. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: That was Oregon coach Dan Lenning before the game. Unfortunately

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Speaker 2: we don't have the sound before halftime. But before halftime

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Speaker 2: he went even harder.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He said Oregon was up thirty five nothing. He said,

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Speaker 2: we're not satisfied. We're not done yet. I hope those

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Speaker 2: people have been watching every week are watching this week. Uh, Jason,

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Speaker 2: let me just ask you what I found the whole

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Speaker 2: thing curious, Like I thought the pregame thing was to

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Speaker 2: hype up his team the halftime stuff very clearly, it

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Speaker 2: seems to me, and by the way, I have no

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Speaker 2: fundamental problem with it, but it seems to me that

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Speaker 2: all of the noise that Colorado has been getting, it

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Speaker 2: feels like Dan Lenning and Oregon took that personally this

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Speaker 2: week is do do you think that's fair to say?

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That's That's kind of been the general consensus about

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Speaker 1: it is. They're the number ten team there, Oregon. They've

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Speaker 1: got a Heisman Trophy candidate at quarterback also, and they

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Speaker 1: weren't being talked about because everyone was talking about Colorado.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of rolled my eyes at it, like,

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Speaker 1: I get it. If you want to motivate your team

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Speaker 1: with that, that's fine. But honestly, man, like the Colorado

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Speaker 1: story is what everyone should be talking about because of

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Speaker 1: everything that has gone into it and because yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it has brought a lot of attention to a place

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Speaker 1: that hasn't had attention in a long time. You can, again,

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Speaker 1: you can use that to motivate your team all you want,

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Speaker 1: but you're gonna take it personally, like I'll take it personally.

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Speaker 1: If we get to the end of the season, no

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Speaker 1: one's talking about Oregon and you somehow you beat Utah

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Speaker 1: for a change, or don't get knocked out in a

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Speaker 1: game you have no business losing, because Oregon loves doing

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Speaker 1: that late in the year. They love finding a way

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Speaker 1: to lose in those circumstances. I think this would have

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Speaker 1: been a far You can tell me I'm wrong on this.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have been far more effective to

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Speaker 1: keep your mouth shut, be respectful, and beat the brakes

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Speaker 1: off them. Even if you believed every word of what

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Speaker 1: Dan Lanning said. If you just keep that to yourself

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Speaker 1: and then go out there and rock them, then you've

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Speaker 1: made your statement and you don't have to do this.

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Speaker 1: If you're trying to motivate your team behind closed doors,

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. But the problem I have with this

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Speaker 1: is he knew there was a camera there. There's a

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Speaker 1: camera there. It's not like they had it placed and

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Speaker 1: didn't tell them about it. Oh, by the way, coach,

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Speaker 1: what you said in pregame, We're gonna run that for

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Speaker 1: the next ten years. I can guarantee you that those

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Speaker 1: comments are going to be played at Colorado next year,

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Speaker 1: and a year after and the year after that and

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Speaker 1: the year after that. This creates something for the future.

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Speaker 1: It's great for entertainment, it's great for the sports watching public.

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Speaker 1: But if it's me, he knew his team was gonna

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Speaker 1: boat race them, So why even bother when you've got

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Speaker 1: cameras around, say it publicly. Just be super respectful to Colorado.

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Speaker 1: You know they've earned all of this. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a tough challenge for us. And then beat the dog

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Speaker 1: crap out of them, and then let everybody else say, boy,

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Speaker 1: Oregon's better than we thought, because then they are talking

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Speaker 1: about Oregon, but they're not talking about it because you've

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Speaker 1: taken something personal and there's like a spilled milk mentality.

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Speaker 1: Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think a couple of things

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Speaker 2: is one. He was very respectful during the week. He

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Speaker 2: said all the right things. You know, he had said

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Speaker 2: something when Colorado left for the Big Twelve. Remember they

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Speaker 2: were the first ones to leave, and then before we

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Speaker 2: realized the conference was gonna break up, Dan Lanning said

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Speaker 2: something about, you know, who cares about Colorado? They haven't

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Speaker 2: won anything since they've been in this league to begin with.

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Speaker 2: People try to make it a big thing. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: a shot at Dien whatever. Yeah, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: he was respectful during the week, he did let the

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Speaker 2: football do his talking. And then I'll say a couple

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Speaker 2: other things. One, it does feel like he was offended,

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Speaker 2: like upset that he wasn't getting enough credit. But to

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Speaker 2: your point, hey, Colorado gave you this huge spotlight, but

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Speaker 2: you just showed America how good you are. You just

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Speaker 2: showed America that Bo nix Iss maybe a Heisman Trophy candidate.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I'll say, and I tweeted this

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Speaker 2: earlier today, and I believe it. I do think part

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Speaker 2: of it, especially the halftime stuff when it was clear

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Speaker 2: they were gonna win. I do think part of it

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00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: was recruiting too. I think it was I know, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have to recruit against this guy over the next

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Speaker 2: however many years he's at Colorado is how however many

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Speaker 2: years he's in college football, And I will forever because

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Speaker 2: these two teams are going their separate ways after this year,

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Speaker 2: I will forever be able to say I'm the dude

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Speaker 2: that beat that guy by forty And maybe it's just

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Speaker 2: for the next year or two, but he can go

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Speaker 2: into kids' houses and if a kids considering Colorado, he

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00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: could say why would you go to Colorado. You want

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Speaker 2: to play for championships and have swag and have multiple

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Speaker 2: uniforms and do this and do that. Come to Oregon.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's all part of it. But I

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Speaker 2: do think the one thing that I will say, it

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Speaker 2: was very clear by watching it that he took offence

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Speaker 2: to something at some point point this week, whether it

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Speaker 2: was just attention or something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's a good point. I'd forgotten

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Speaker 1: about the fact that they're not going to be regular

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Speaker 1: opponents going forward. I think that I just kind of

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Speaker 1: look at it. He took something personally that's very very clear,

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Speaker 1: But he also knew that his team was better, and

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Speaker 1: so he wasn't saying something he was probably gonna regret

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Speaker 1: later most likely. That's that's intriguing, I would say. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a good argument about the future in terms

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Speaker 1: of having that over him and understanding that. I also

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a tough sell just to say

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Speaker 1: don't go to Colorado, go to Oregon because of that,

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Speaker 1: because you know what clicks lead to and trends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, by the way, keeping everybody updated on

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Speaker 1: Was finally turned it off and went back to USC

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Speaker 1: Arizona State because it's just a Panix and that they're

848
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. But they just every time you look up

849
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Speaker 1: they've scored again.

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Speaker 2: What are we even doing here with WATA don't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're unbelievable. They had seven hundred and nineteen yards of

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Speaker 2: total offense last week against Michigan State. I was on peacock,

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Speaker 2: so I did not see any of it, but this

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Speaker 2: USC twenty one to ten with about four minutes to

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Speaker 2: go in the first half in Tempe, Arizona against Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep updated on that. Jason, Do you want to

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Speaker 2: switch gears though? And I want to get to some

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Speaker 2: of week What is it week three of the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Man times going.

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Speaker 1: Luckily it's only three, but it also feels like, man,

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Speaker 1: we're already we're already the third week of the season.

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Speaker 2: I know, no, I know, it's it's going by fast,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I want to start with what we

865
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Speaker 2: saw on Saturday Thursday, not Tripnome, my Wards, not Saturday Night.

866
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about Thursday night and the

867
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers. They obviously played the New

868
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: York Giants Thursday Night game, and it was one that

869
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: was largely one sided. San Francisco wins thirty to twelve.

870
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: They hold the New York Football Giants to one hundred

871
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: and fifty yards of total offense in that game. I

872
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: want to talk about both angles, but I want to

873
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: start with the San Francisco angle. I mean, it's obvious, right,

874
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: I mean, they're fantastic, They're phenomenal, obviously made an NFC

875
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: Championship game last year before Brockbirdy gets hurts. And I

876
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: know that it's easy for us to say this because

877
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: they have played a third game. Not everybody else has.

878
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: Everybody else will be in action either Sunday or Monday.

879
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: But in a year where you know, Casey's looked good

880
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: but not great through two games, Phillies looked good but

881
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: not great through two games. Dallas is good, but we'll

882
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: talk about the Gravon Diggs injury here. Momentarily, Cincinnati is

883
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: zero and two. Is San Francisco the best team in

884
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: the league at least right now?

885
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Yes they are. I mean they've got the defense is absurd.

886
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: We already knew that coming in. The play calling is

887
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: absurd because Kyle Shannan's a genius. Christian McCaffrey's arguably the

888
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: most dangerous running back in the league because of everything

889
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: that he does for you. And we know what they

890
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: have a receiver. Let's not forget they didn't have Brandon

891
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Ayuk in this game. They didn't have him at all,

892
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: and they were still doing all of this and then

893
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: you got Brock party And I know that's the real

894
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: topic here. And that's what everybody has wanted to opine

895
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: on since Thursday night. I don't understand the reticence to

896
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: give him flowers for what he's accomplished. I'm not sure

897
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: why everybody is so hesitant about this. Do I think

898
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: that he goes to any system and he's successful like this? No,

899
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: but he is. He is perfectly placed in this system

900
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: to do what Kyle Shanahan needs him to do. He's

901
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: not gonna be a guy it's gonna throw for five

902
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: hundred yards a game. But I also think that he's

903
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: generally not gonna lose you very many games, and his

904
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: floor doesn't seem to be all that low to me. Like,

905
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: I just don't know why we have to go and

906
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: immediately try to poke holes in brock Purty to explain

907
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: why San Francisco can't win a super Bowl with him,

908
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: because I think they can.

909
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I do too, And I when I was

910
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: a little hesitant on them coming into the year, it

911
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: wasn't so much like him as a dude. It was

912
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: coming off major elbow surgery. And I'm not a doctor,

913
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: but I have been told some guys recover pretty, you know,

914
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: relatively easy from it. I've and told there are certain

915
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that were never really the same after that kind

916
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: of injury. So that was my only hesitation. But I'm

917
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: with you, is is it was a fun story last year.

918
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: You know, obviously we know we know the narrative they

919
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: had Jimmy G. They start, you know, they started with

920
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, they go to Jimmy G. Jimmy G gets hurt,

921
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: they're they're kind of stuck with Brock Purty obviously was

922
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: undefeated going into that NFC Championship game. I just think,

923
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: now he's just a B plus very good NFL quarterback

924
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: like he is. He doesn't have the physical tools of

925
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence or whatever, Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. But

926
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: as you said, like he's just a good NFL quarterback.

927
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: And I you know, I'm with you from the perspective that,

928
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: like I think sometimes you know, we try to take

929
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: a narrative and we try to turn it into something

930
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: that it isn't. By the way, Dion Sanders, they were

931
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: never gonna win a national championship that this year. It's okay,

932
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: if they go six and six, that's a success. And

933
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: I kind of think that's what it is with brock

934
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: Purty is we're still trying to like judge him as

935
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: mister irrelevant, the last pick of the draft, this and that,

936
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: and I just look at it and say, listen, Tom

937
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Brady was a sixth round pick. Russell Wilson who you know, whatever,

938
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: he is what he is at this point in his career,

939
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: but he's a super Bowl winning quarterback that was drafted

940
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: not in the first round. Dak Prescott has become a

941
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: very good NFL quarterback that was not taken in the

942
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: first round. Like, we have a history in the NFL

943
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: of guys that were not top five picks, that were

944
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: not top ten picks. I mean Patrick Mahomes, how many

945
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: guys were drafted ahead of him, and his draft at

946
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback position it was two or three or whatever.

947
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: It's like, we can just admit that brock perty is

948
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: just a really good NFL quarterback. And admittedly he is

949
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: in a great system with a great coach. His skill

950
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: set is very much you know, the skill set that

951
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: thrives in that system under Kyle Shanahan. He has plenty

952
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: of talent around him. But I think we could just

953
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: like we could stop with the mister irrelevant, We can

954
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: stop with this, we can stop with that. He's just

955
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: a very good NFL quarterback.

956
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, and I think that's fair. Look, my former

957
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: broadcast partner back on the show that I used to

958
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: host in Nashville on a daily basis, Roonan Foster, who

959
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: played for the Steelers forever. He went undrafted at the

960
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: University of Tennessee, and I remember him talking about this

961
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: on a fairly regular basis. I've never forgotten him because

962
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: he's a really thoughtful, insightful guy who understands the league

963
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: and understands the mentality that goes into a lot of

964
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: the decisions that are made and just some of the

965
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: thought processes. And he said him in his own brain,

966
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: year after year, felt like he had to keep earning

967
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: his job every year because he was undrafted, not because

968
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: he hadn't earned the right, because he clearly proved he

969
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: should have been in the NFL, considering he played his

970
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: entire career for one of the best organizations in the

971
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: league and was a stalwart and a leader on that team.

972
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: But he continually had to look over his shoulders because

973
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: of his draft position and because he went undrafted when

974
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: and I think he thought he was going to be drafted.

975
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: But it's the same kind of deal. I think that's

976
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: part of the brock per experience for a lot of

977
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: people watching him. Because he was drafted where he was,

978
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: because he was mister irrelevant, He's gonna have to earn

979
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: it over and over again with a certain crop of people.

980
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: And what's funny about this is this is the same

981
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: crop of people that can't wait to tell you where

982
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was drafted. Sure like, if Tom Brady could

983
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: be drafted where he was and end up doing what

984
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: he's done, you're telling me brock Purdy can't have a

985
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: successful career in the National Football League. I just think

986
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: at some point, let's look at what he's done. I mean,

987
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: think about what Jimmy Garoppolo had really accomplished before San

988
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Francisco paid him out the nose coming out of New England,

989
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Like he hadn't done almost anything, and then he got

990
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: hurt almost immediately, so it didn't take much of a

991
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: sample size to get him paid. And good for him.

992
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: But I do think that I don't think we need

993
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: to find reasons to tear Brock Purdy down when he

994
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: hasn't given us a reason. No one's out here suggesting

995
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: he's about to be the MVP of the league. But

996
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: he's already impressed me this season more than I thought

997
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: maybe he would. And you're right, And the reasoning for

998
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: me again was coming off that injury, you know, how

999
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: long was it going to take him to round into form?

1000
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: And didn't seem like it took him very long because

1001
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: he seems to be very much in control of that offense.

1002
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're playing a every time Washington

1003
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: Husky score a touchdown drinking game at home, please seek

1004
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: immediate medical attention. Washington has scored again. It is now

1005
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: forty five to twelve with forty four seconds left in

1006
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: the second quarter, USC up twenty one to thirteen. I

1007
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: didn't mean to cut you off there, Jason, but Washington

1008
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: scored again forty five points of the first half. But

1009
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: we'll get back to the NFL, And you know, I

1010
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: agree with you, And I also think the other thing too,

1011
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: is like, you know, one really good quarterback and I

1012
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: think two. We have to look at the competition in

1013
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: the NFC as well. Is that you know, you start

1014
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: talking about best quarterbacks in the NFC, he's I think

1015
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: he's right in that Dak Jared Goff. I mean he's

1016
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: not as I guess you would say accomplished as those guys.

1017
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: But that's kind of what the NFC quarterback situation is

1018
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: right now is guys that have really good pieces around

1019
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: them don't beat you, don't beat themselves. You know, Dak

1020
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more than you know than what

1021
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: I just mentioned with who did I say here? I

1022
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: said Brock Purdy, Dak and I can't remember, oh, Jared Golf. Yeah, So,

1023
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 2: like like none of them are super high ceiling guys,

1024
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: but they get the job done generally, don't beat themselves whatever.

1025
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: So I'm with you it is I think they are

1026
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: a great team. I think he's a great story, but

1027
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: I think we have to kind of cut out the

1028
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, the the mister relevant all that as if

1029
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, like like still the biggest thing

1030
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: like that, that's not the thing. He's pasted it. He's

1031
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: beyond it. He is who he is really quickly. With

1032
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants, they're so what.

1033
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: I tell you, what I tell you for the season,

1034
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: same thing you were saying, right, Yeah, this is exactly

1035
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: what I thought they were gonna be. They're not very good,

1036
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, not with I mean unfortunate with Barkley. Yes,

1037
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: but this is exactly what I was anticipating from Danny Dimes.

1038
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I was anticipating from this team.

1039
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: It's what you thought as well. Last year was the peak.

1040
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: It was not them continuing to clown the mountain. They

1041
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: overperformed last year and now they're regressing to the mean.

1042
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, and I think I

1043
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: know the answer. Do you think that we ever get

1044
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: to a point so like Daniel Jones got the relatively

1045
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: big contract, you know, four year contract, one hundred and

1046
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: sixty four year extension, hundred and sixty million. It's I

1047
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: get It's not Patrick Mahomes money, it's not Joe Burrow

1048
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: Money's not Justin Herbert money. Do you think we ever

1049
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: get to a point where with the way rookie contracts work,

1050
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: the fact that for the most part, we usually get

1051
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: a pretty good quarterback crop where there are deemed to

1052
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: be three or four first roundish type talents every year.

1053
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a little bit more. I know, two years

1054
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: ago Kenny Piickett was the only first rounder, but this

1055
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: year we could have five, six seven first rounders. Whatever

1056
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: do you think we ever just get to the point

1057
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: where a team just basically says like, yeah, you're good,

1058
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: and you're not like you're not mediocre, you're not Zach Wilson,

1059
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: you're not whomever. But we're just not gonna pay you

1060
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: and start over. Like, I know it was hard for

1061
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: the Giants because they made the playoffs last year, but

1062
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of knew that what Daniel

1063
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: jones ceiling was, he probably hit it last year. As

1064
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 2: you said that, you're never that they're never gonna be

1065
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: better than last year. I mean, they might be as good,

1066
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: they might catch some breaks. Maybe the NFC's a little

1067
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: bit down. But I was just thinking about that, is

1068
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: like I know, there was no way to really know

1069
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: how good this this upcoming quarterback draft would be, but

1070
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: like say this was this this quarterback draft was last year.

1071
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I just I find it so

1072
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: interesting because now you owe him one hundred and sixty million,

1073
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: four years whatever and you're kind of stuck with him

1074
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: for a little while, and I just I don't know,

1075
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about it, is like we all

1076
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: knew what his ceiling was, we all knew what his

1077
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: limitations were. He got paid because again, ultimately, like they

1078
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: did make the playoffs. But I just I don't know.

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00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about that this week, as like,

1080
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: at some point somebody's gonna say, we don't care if

1081
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: you can get us to the fringes of the playoffs.

1082
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: We're just gonna try over with somebody else.

1083
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's a really it's an interesting

1084
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of discussion to have because somebody in the league

1085
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: is always going to be the worst at quarterbacks. Somebody

1086
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: is always going to be fifteenth in the league. Somebody's

1087
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: always going to be in twentieth in the league. I

1088
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: don't mean the same team over and over again. I

1089
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: mean they're not everybody can be the best at that position.

1090
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: There are only a certain number of the league quarterbacks.

1091
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: The teams that have them generally are near the top

1092
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: of the standings. But how are we viewing running backs

1093
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: right now? A lot of the backs that aren't getting

1094
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: paid aren't bad, They're just replaceable in the eyes of

1095
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: the franchises. And I think that's what you look at.

1096
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: It's like, eventually, do you just kind of take the

1097
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: risk and say, hey, man, you're actually pretty good, but

1098
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: we can't continue to just be mediocre, Like, mediocrity is

1099
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: not why we're in business here. If I don't think

1100
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: that my quarterback can win me a Super Bowl, if

1101
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I legitimly have seen enough for that conclusion to be

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Speaker 1: paramount in my mind, that I'm not gonna pay him.

1103
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: It's just that simple. I understand that sometimes you have

1104
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: to have bridge years and all this, but you don't

1105
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: have to have one hundred and sixty million dollar contract

1106
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: bridge years you can afford. I mean, you tell me

1107
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: everybody listening, you tell me Daniel Jones replaceable. I mean,

1108
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: he's a good he's a pretty decent football player, But

1109
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: is he in any way irreplaceable or is he closer

1110
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: to a Dalvin Cook or a Zeke or somebody like that,

1111
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: even maybe because of his age, like a Clyde Edwards

1112
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Layer or somebody like that, where it's just you kind

1113
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: of know what it is and it's okay, but it's

1114
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: never gonna get you to the top of the mountain team. Personally,

1115
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: I would rather bottom out than win eight games a year,

1116
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: because they'll win eight games a year forever. If they

1117
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: bought him out, they have a chance to get a

1118
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: game changer at the one position where it ultimately matters,

1119
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: And that's what.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Like if they had, Like again,

1121
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: I know it's hard because you made the playoffs, and

1122
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: like I don't think because they made the playoffs you

1123
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: could do it, But like, would the New York Giants

1124
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: be in better position going forward today if they had

1125
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: just basically said after last year, Daniel Jones, you're not

1126
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Speaker 2: the guy and they had just signed Tyrod Taylor or

1127
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton or whoever this year and been in position

1128
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Speaker 2: to get a top ten pick next year, whether it's

1129
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: maybe you don't get number one, maybe you don't get

1130
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, but you get a Quinn Ewers and Michael

1131
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: Pennix Shador Sanders obviously nobody knew how good he was

1132
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: at the time. Like, would your organization be better today

1133
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 2: if you had just said, Daniel Jones, thanks for the memories,

1134
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: thanks for the playoff. You know, run, but we're not

1135
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: paying you because I I think you probably would be. Now,

1136
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee you hit on the quarterback pick, but

1137
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: there is also the possibility that the guy that you

1138
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: end up taking has the higher upside than whoever you

1139
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: end up than keeping Daniel Jones. Does that make sense.

1140
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. I would even say this. So you're

1141
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: saying you're not guaranteed to hit on that pick, right,

1142
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: It's about a twenty five percent success rate for quarterbacks.

1143
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: But you can make the argument you didn't hit with

1144
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones exactly. That's the thing, Like, if you didn't

1145
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: hit with Daniel Jones, and by hit, I mean really hit.

1146
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: You guys know what I mean when I say hit.

1147
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Everybody listening understands what a hit and a miss is.

1148
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: I can't say they hit with Daniel Jones. At best,

1149
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: they bunted and barely made it on base. Like, is

1150
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: that the kind of thing that you're going to hit

1151
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: your wagon to for five years for fear of maybe

1152
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: striking out? No, I don't think so. I think the

1153
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: organizations that win, especially the ones that can actually turn

1154
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: it around, are ones that are willing to take risks

1155
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: because they've got nothing to lose.

1156
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: And I and listen, I know that there was no

1157
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: way a year ago you could know how good this

1158
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: quarterback class would be. We knew Caleb Williams Drake May

1159
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: at the top. We didn't think shad Or Sanders was

1160
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 2: a potential first round pick. Quinn yours has obviously played

1161
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: very well this year. So I'm not sitting here saying

1162
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: that like you had to know and shame on you.

1163
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: But I do think if you had just said, Daniel Jones,

1164
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: thanks again, we're gonna roll with Tyrod Taylor for the year,

1165
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna roll with Andy Dolton for the year, whatever

1166
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: and try to position ourselves or maybe you know they.

1167
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: I guess you wouldn't have been in position to take

1168
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback last year, but I don't know. I just

1169
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: I just think I find it so interesting, is that,

1170
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: like there's just this this need to always kind of

1171
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: pay the quarterback, and I think it comes back to

1172
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Speaker 2: by you. Fox Sports Radio ratoris Jason Martin. We are

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Speaker 2: Com Coming up. Do want to switch gears Jason from

1179
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: one quarterback to another? Gotta discuss Joe Burrow, what's going

1180
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: on with him? What's going on with the Bengals. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aaron

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: Towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tairaq dot Com studios.

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00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: Just a minute ago, we were talking about if the

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00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers are the best team in

1185
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: the NFL, want to switch gears to a team that

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: I think we maybe would have made the argument four

1187
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: a month ago, but they unfortunately have started oh and two.

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Speaker 2: That is the Cincinnati Bengals, who have not only started

1189
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: oh and two, but it is kind of worth noting. Uh,

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: the Cincinni Bengals are zero and two in the division,

1191
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: which is brutal. Obviously, last year they started oh and

1192
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: two as well. This is a little bit different though.

1193
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: They are now two full games behind Baltimore oh and

1194
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: two overall, with back to back losses to Cincinnati and

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: to Baltimore to in the season. And more importantly, Joe

1196
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: Burrow is questionable going into a Monday night game against

1197
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams. Zach Taylor basically said, it's a

1198
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: game time decision, all that good stuff. Jason, what do

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Speaker 2: you make of the health of Joe Burrow and the

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Speaker 2: health of the Cincinnati Bengals season, as it's already on

1201
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: the brink just two games.

1202
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Speaker 1: It's not good. Neither one of them is good. I

1203
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: think that we just kind of weren't up to speed

1204
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: on the injury before the season. It just kind of

1205
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: wasn't talked about all that much. We thought maybe it

1206
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: was just rust in Game one. But if you actually

1207
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: watch the tape, and you know, I've looked at several

1208
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: people and listened to several people that have gone back

1209
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: and watch film in the first couple of weeks, and

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: he just can't escape, He can't move, he can't shift

1211
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: in the pocket properly. He hadn't been right since the

1212
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, and then he you know, aggravated

1213
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 1: it last week and now he's questionable, perhaps can't play

1214
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: on Monday night. It's not good. And I think the

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Speaker 1: thing that kind of stands out I saw, or at

1216
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: least I think I heard a podcast. I think it

1217
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: was on the Athletic that was suggesting this. But they're

1218
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: not particularly special as a football team outside of about

1219
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: three guys. Sure he's won Jamar's one and you might

1220
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Speaker 1: put Higgins in that list, and that's sort of it.

1221
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: They have a good football team, but without him or

1222
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: Jamar in particular, there's nothing all that remarkable about them.

1223
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: If he's not right, and he hasn't been to this

1224
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: point in the season, you see what you see what

1225
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: that looks like. They're in real trouble. I mean the

1226
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: fact that they've lost both those games in division and

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Speaker 1: I think, more than anything, the fact that Baltimore looks

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01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: the way Baltimore does, Baltimore winning these games, Lamar looking

1229
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: the way he is throwing the football. Greg Roman being

1230
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: out of there has made a massive difference for them.

1231
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: They look very, very good. The Browns look mediocre. Pittsburgh

1232
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: looks like they were over hyped before the season, and

1233
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals are playing their way out of this thing

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: right now. And now you're looking at h and two

1235
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Speaker 1: playing against a decent team on Monday night, maybe not

1236
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: having Burroughs services, but even with that, like the AFC

1237
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: is going to be a dog fight, and if you

1238
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: fall too far behind too fast, the chances of you

1239
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: being able to come back and make some kind of

1240
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: an impact or even make the playoffs, they don't have

1241
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: much more room to fall before that becomes a very

1242
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: daunting ask.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting point. I hadn't really thought about it,

1244
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: but I'm trying to think, like, like, what is special

1245
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: about them besides Burrow and Chase Haggins is obviously you

1246
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: know in the upperrasch Lin all that, But you know,

1247
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't and maybe I'm missing somebody. Maybe there's somebody

1248
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: on defense that's absolutely unbelievable that I'm not thinking of.

1249
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they got dude, Sam Hubbert's good, you know,

1250
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: Dax Hill's been good through the last couple of years.

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: But I don't think there's anything special about them. Joe

1252
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: Mixon obviously is good, but he's an older player.

1253
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Jesse Bates was good. I mean, it's

1254
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: not like they had nobody. I'm not suggesting that. I'm

1255
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: just saying, like, you talk about difference making guys, and

1256
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: the list is fairly short with them, and I would

1257
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: say it's actually fairly short with almost every team in

1258
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: the league. There are a few guys that make them

1259
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: a completely different football team. A lot of times the

1260
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: quarterback has to be involved in that list if you're

1261
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,959
Speaker 1: going to be a contender, and certainly if Burrow's not there,

1262
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they've got much of a chance to

1263
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: do anything.

1264
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting. They don't play until Monday night,

1265
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: so that gives them a little bit of wiggle room,

1266
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: but you talk about essentially a must win game. They

1267
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: host the Los Angeles Rams Monday night. We get a

1268
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: double Monday night game again, so it'll be interesting to

1269
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: see the latest down Joe Burrow again, he is questionable

1270
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: right now. Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin broadcasting

1271
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: that I from thedirec dot com studios. Coming up, we

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: talk about the other big injury of the week and

1273
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: how it could impact another contender. We'll discuss that next.

1274
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: Before we do, though, toss it over the news desk

1275
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: Steve de Sager, What is new.

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Speaker 8: While we're talking about NFL? Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddle

1277
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 8: is out tomorrow with a concussion. He took an illegal

1278
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 8: hit at New England last game Denver's at Miami. Brown's

1279
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 8: running back Nick Chubb will have surgery next week for

1280
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 8: a torn MCL, but his ACL is not fully torn,

1281
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 8: according to NFL Network. If so, he could play next year.

1282
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 8: Charge A running back Austin Eckler out again tomorrow's sprained ankle.

1283
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 8: The Ravens will be missing seven injured starters this weekend,

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Speaker 8: including wide receiver Odell Beckham with an ankle injury. Today,

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Speaker 8: Baltimore cut quarterback Josh Johnson and elevated running backs Melvin

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Speaker 8: Gordon and Kenyon Drake. The Colts cut running back Dion

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Speaker 8: Jackson and elevated running back Trey Sermon. Colts rookie quarterback

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Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson out tomorrow with a concussion, Panthers rookie QB

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Speaker 8: Bryce Young will miss one to two weeks with an

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Speaker 8: ankle injury, and the Saints place running back Jamal Williams

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Speaker 8: on ir Saints at Green Bay's Fox TV game tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: In college football, in the top ten, Tonight, Ohio State

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Speaker 8: was a winner seventeen to fourteen at Notre Dame on

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Speaker 8: a one yard touchdown with one second left, and Emmanuelaccho

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Speaker 8: pointed this out and just did again on the Fox

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Speaker 8: halftime show of the USC game that Notre Dame's defense

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Speaker 8: had only ten players on the field for its last

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Speaker 8: two plays. Tonight, in the home loss, the Irish in

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Speaker 8: the first half missed a forty seven yard field goal,

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Speaker 8: wound up losing by three. Right now at halftime, Number five,

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Speaker 8: USC leads twenty one to thirteen at Arizona State. Caleb

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Speaker 8: Williams with one touchdown pass one hundred and forty four

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Speaker 8: yards through the air. Williams has two touchdown runs as well.

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Speaker 8: Halftime at number eight Washington ats Huskies forty five to

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 8: twelve over Cal The Washington Huskies got an early pick

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 8: six for a seven to nothing lead, and just a

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01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 8: few minutes later a pun return for a touchdown. It

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Speaker 8: was fourteen to nothing before the offense even took the field. Tonight,

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Speaker 8: Fresno State's winning again twenty three to ten over Kent

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Speaker 8: State in the third quarter. Looks like the Bulldogs will

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Speaker 8: go to four and the late game is underway. Hawaii

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Speaker 8: at home is down seven to nothing late first quarter

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Speaker 8: against New Mexico State, and James Madison won at Utah

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Speaker 8: State forty five thirty eight. I saw a clip of

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Speaker 8: the James Madison coach disagreeing with the call on the sideline,

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01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 8: actually showing a phone to the referee during the game

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 8: with the clip of the play on it somewhat illegal.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, isn't that like they're like there's

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Speaker 2: something you can't have devices on the sidelines.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's yeah, it's It's okay for the Astros and

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01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 8: Red Sox, but yeah, I believe in football. Not good

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Speaker 8: battle of three and oh teams. Missouri beat Memphis thirty

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Speaker 8: four to twenty seven, South Carolina down Mississippi State thirty

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Speaker 8: seven to thirty and Kansas State beat UCF tonight forty

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Speaker 8: four to thirty one. Northwestern came back to win an

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Speaker 8: overtime against Minnesota. Indiana in four overtimes, beat Akron. Top

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Speaker 8: ten victories for Georgia and Michigan for Texas and Penn

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Speaker 8: State by the way, Penn State thirty one to nothing

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Speaker 8: over Iowa, ranked twenty fourth in the country. Iowa's offense,

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Speaker 8: let's just say it out loud, not known for their offense.

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 8: It was even worse tonight. They had two first downs

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 8: until the final drive of the game in the rain.

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01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 8: At Penn State, they wound up with four first downs

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 8: for the contest, a ranked team had four first downs

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Speaker 8: in four quarters.

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Speaker 1: To Kirk Farence Man just got to extend the first

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: time you can.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Kirk ference is a Yukon guy. Be

1339
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: careful what you say. But I have a buddy who

1340
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: was at the game, and I texted him. I said

1341
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: it was ten to nothing, and then I stopped paying attention.

1342
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: It was thirty one nothing. How what happened? And he goes.

1343
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: Penn State's entire strategy was we can't lose if we

1344
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: don't do something amazingly stupid. That's literally the exact que.

1345
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: So well, so, I mean I was a little enthralled

1346
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: with Ohio State. Notre Dame, forgive me, but I guess

1347
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: their entire philosophy was, Hey, if we don't throw pick

1348
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: sixes and whatever, we're gonna win comfort. It worked.

1349
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 8: It worked, dru Aler with four touchdown passes. It was

1350
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 8: time of possession that you really only see in like

1351
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 8: an army game. Penn State had the ball for forty

1352
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 8: five and a half minutes out of sixty. Iowa finished

1353
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 8: with seventy six total yards in this game. On the ground,

1354
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 8: this is the whole team rushing seventeen carries, twenty yards,

1355
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 8: four fumbles.

1356
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, Kirk Farence is the Daniel Jones of college football.

1357
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: It's keeping Brian Farrence still being oc is still mind

1358
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: boggling to me.

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Speaker 8: Remember all the Kirk fer I mean, this is like

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 8: Charlie Weiss at Notre Dame. He came so close let's

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01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 8: get me an extension. Yea Kirk Ference used to be

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 8: an NFL assistant, did he might leave? Let's get him

1363
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 8: an extension. Who are you bidding against? Okay, all right,

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 8: that's how many times have they won the conference in

1365
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 8: the last twenty years?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So sig, I don't know if you reference this.

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Speaker 2: My buddy's telling me he said total plays was ninety

1368
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: seven to thirty three. Oh my, I won't say that.

1369
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: Our competition in media, their stats in info can't find

1370
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: the last time one team got sixty four more plays

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Speaker 2: than another in a single game. So there you go.

1372
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Speaker 1: Wow, sounds like a women's college basketball.

1373
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a Yukon.

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01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, imagined if they were stopping after every first down.

1375
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: Thank god we got the clock rules.

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, AP says that Iowa's four first downs fewest in

1378
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 8: a game for a ranked team since two thousand, which

1379
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 8: was probably also Iowa USC's dominant team of two thousand

1380
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 8: and two. Did it twice against two different opponents, I

1381
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 8: mean that season against Notre Dame and against Colorado. Speaking

1382
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 8: of Colorado, Wow, down forty two to nothing at Oregon

1383
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 8: early second half ducks forty two to six is the

1384
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 8: final and the comeback of Pittsburgh Pirate's history. Tonight largest

1385
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 8: yes in their history, down nine to nothing at Cincinnati

1386
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 8: after the third inning, down nine to one in the

1387
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 8: sixth Pirates thirteen twelve the final, the Reds in the

1388
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 8: bottom of the ninth left a runner at third, of course,

1389
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 8: strikeout and a flyout. We had just over a week

1390
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 8: left in the regular season. The Reds fall two and

1391
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 8: a half games behind the Cubs for that last wildcard spot.

1392
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Speaker 8: Cincinnati's record seventy nine and seventy seven. We had rainouts

1393
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 8: at Washington and at Yankee Stadium. By the way, we

1394
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 8: will have rain for the NFL games at Washington and

1395
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 8: Baltimore and New York with the Jets back to.

1396
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Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much. Steve Seger, Fox Sports Radio,

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday Enter towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. Seger will rejoin us

1399
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: in just a few minutes to get you caught up

1400
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Speaker 2: on all the other stuff that fell through the cracks today. Jason,

1401
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: just really quick, do you want to address I don't

1402
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: mean to make this a hour sad hour, but obviously

1403
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: we just talked about Joe Burrow's calf injury and you

1404
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: know the fact that he might not play this week,

1405
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: and it'd be you know, we'd be remiss if we

1406
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: didn't talk about the other big injury news of the week,

1407
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: as Trevon Diggs, star cornerback of the Dallas Cowboys defense,

1408
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL ACL injury in practice. I mean, I

1409
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: think that's you know, you never want to have something

1410
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: like this, but to have it in practice. You know,

1411
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: this is a guy that through the years has been

1412
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: just an insane cover corner eleven interceptions two years ago,

1413
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: already had one interception through two games this season, he's out,

1414
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: and you know that that that Cowboys defense, which has

1415
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: been just so lights out through the first two games,

1416
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: takes a brutal, brittle, brutle hit.

1417
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if there's not really a take here other than

1418
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: I hate that for him, I hate that for Cowboys

1419
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: fans hate that for the Cowboys generally. It's not you know,

1420
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: it's not my squad if you want to go there,

1421
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: but you never want to see that happen, and to

1422
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: hear any anytime it happens in practice, it feels even

1423
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 1: ten times worse when I saw that, you know, update

1424
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: email come through a few days ago when that when

1425
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: that happened, I happened to be out at the time,

1426
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: and it was just like, oh, come on, I mean, one,

1427
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: they have a chance to be just an all time

1428
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: great defen. That's a big hit for them now. They've

1429
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: still got a lot of talent on it side of

1430
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't think it means that they can't

1431
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: compete for the Super Bowl. It just every little you need,

1432
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 1: every break, you know, league that's so closely decided so regularly,

1433
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 1: and he, I mean, he could be a feaster famine

1434
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: kind of guy's he can pick six. He can also

1435
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: get beat because sometimes he actually goes for broke and

1436
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: there have been guys that have done that through the years.

1437
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: But man, he has had a lot of positive things

1438
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: happen for the football team that he has played for

1439
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: in this first couple of years. And it was just

1440
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: like one of those bummer kind of moves, similar to

1441
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: like Nick Chubb on Monday and it like, we've had

1442
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: a couple of big names, right, you had you had

1443
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: a couple of Monday night ones with Aaron Rodgers and

1444
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, and then you had Travon Diggs go down

1445
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: and practice It's just this is this is not the

1446
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: league I'm looking for this year. Like we can go

1447
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: ahead and anytime you guys want to stop with this

1448
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: whole thing, the football gods are free to let this

1449
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: one go.

1450
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, total bummer the House Cowboys, number one scoring offense

1451
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL, or number one scoring defense, excuse me

1452
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL, the number one total defense in the NFL.

1453
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: Losing Trevon Diggs. I mean there is no silver lining.

1454
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: I think the obvious, you know, from a football perspective,

1455
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: if there is one, schedule is manageable these next few weeks.

1456
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 2: Arizona this week, New England Patriots next week, before things

1457
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: get tough for forty nine Ers Chargers Rams. Starting the

1458
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: second weekend of October, Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torres, Jason Martin,

1459
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: we are broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios.

1460
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: Keeping the update on a couple of late scores. USC

1461
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 2: up twenty one to thirteen. Early third quarter at Arizona State.

1462
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: The Washington Huskies are up fifty two to twelve. They

1463
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: have just it looks like they have scored again. It

1464
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: was forty five to twelve at halftime. They have just

1465
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: punched the ball in as I said, if you and

1466
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: your friends have started a Washington Huskies drinking game, please stop,

1467
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: seek a immediate medical attention. The Washington Huskies unstoppable. By

1468
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:08,839
Speaker 2: the way, three Saturdays from now, October fourteenth, Washington plays Oregon.

1469
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, we'll come back. We'll react to

1470
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: some of everything that happened in college football throughout the day,

1471
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: but we'll also bring into Sager for his extended update.

1472
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: He's got all sorts of good stuff on everything that

1473
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: we've missed throughout the day. To Sager is next Fox

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Toords

1475
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live Fromthetireck dot Com studios as we

1476
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 2: do every Saturday around this time. Want to tell us

1477
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: over the news desk to Sager, a lot of stuff

1478
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: to catch u up on the floor's yours certainly do.

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01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 8: And let's start in the top ten, where we had

1480
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 8: the Ohio States at No. Tre Dame game at Bears repeating,

1481
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 8: each team was stopped on fourth and one two separate

1482
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 8: times in the game. Each Ohio State does win by

1483
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 8: three on the road. As Notre Dames defense had only

1484
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 8: ten players on the field for the last two plays.

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 3: Train them off is right hip two wide to the

1486
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,879
Speaker 3: right snap McCord hands to train them straight in the zone,

1487
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: touchdown chip train them for the second straight week. Boge,

1488
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: a converted linebacker finds the end zone and that'll win

1489
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 3: it for Ohio State.

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 8: One yard TD with one second left. Paul keels from

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01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 8: lear field with that call. Also in the top ten,

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 8: we mentioned Penn State shutting out Iowa thirty one nothing,

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 8: and it was really worse than that. We had the

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01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 8: game at Clemson today that went overtime. Clemson is now

1495
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 8: zero to two in Conference fourth rank. Florida State wins

1496
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 8: it despite trailing ten to nothing in the second quarter.

1497
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 8: Thirty one twenty four in ot seminoles the final and

1498
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 8: if you watch the broadcast, you heard the story of

1499
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 8: Clemson's kicker to the game.

1500
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: The guy was the backup kicker. Crazy story.

1501
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 8: Previous three years, he'd had three extra points and that

1502
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 8: was it. So he wasn't playing at all. So he

1503
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 8: decided not to be on the team this year. They've

1504
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 8: had kicking problems. They contacted him this past week, can

1505
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 8: you come back.

1506
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,480
Speaker 2: On the team. He was living four hours away from campus.

1507
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 8: But technically he was still a student because of the

1508
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 8: online and so he you know, I was watching a

1509
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 8: couple of his extra points today. They just barely tucked in,

1510
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 8: and you know, the college extra points are very close.

1511
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 8: And then it comes time for a twenty nine yard

1512
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 8: field goal attempt and all the glory with under two

1513
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 8: minutes left in regulation, and he missed the kick. It

1514
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 8: goes to ot and Florida State wins at Clemson and

1515
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 8: key FSU scored a touchdown and a fumble return late

1516
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 8: in the fourth third quarter. So as a team, Seminoles

1517
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 8: had twenty carries twenty two yards on the ground and

1518
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 8: they still wind up winning. Meanwhile, UCLA was at Utah.

1519
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 8: You ranked eleventh in the country this week. Bruins had

1520
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 8: the ball first.

1521
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: Safte More intercepted to Ready Reid ten five. It's a

1522
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: touchdown up pick six.

1523
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 4: On the opening play and Utah strikes first here on

1524
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 4: Hope coming.

1525
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: So it's a quick seven nothing.

1526
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 8: That call on kall amap points. That was the call

1527
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 8: on call, ap pointing out that UCLA was getting shut

1528
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 8: out after three quarters, fourteen to nothing. First time a

1529
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 8: Chip Kelly team failed to score in the first three

1530
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 8: quarters since the Eagles in twenty fifteen. Eventually fourteen to

1531
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 8: seven Utah. The final you mentioned before the break aeron

1532
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 8: Torres at October fourteenth. Fortunately for all of US fans

1533
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 8: who love college football, it's only three weeks away. It's

1534
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 8: not only Oregon at Washington, it's USC at Notre Dame

1535
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 8: that night. Oh so, hello, we thought we had a

1536
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 8: good day here, bring on some more. Oregon ripped Colorado

1537
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 8: forty two to six. It was forty two to nothing

1538
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 8: early in the second half. Colorado's two way star Travis Hunter,

1539
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 8: out three weeks, took a late hit last Saturday against

1540
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 8: Colorado State. Colorado was sacked seven times in the blowout loss.

1541
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 8: Today and here you've got Washington in its home game tonight,

1542
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 8: up fifty two to twelve early third quarter against cal.

1543
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 8: We had wins late night for UNLV for well, we'll

1544
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 8: see about USC. They're only up twenty one to thirteen

1545
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 8: at Arizona State. That's on Fox TV early in the

1546
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 8: third quarter. Fresno State's now up fifty to ten late

1547
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 8: in the third against Kent State. The late game second

1548
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 8: quarter has New Mexico State leading ten to nothing at Hawaii,

1549
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 8: and then Shenandoah University Division III football got in the

1550
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 8: news today Portland. Yeah, it was eighty one to no.

1551
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 8: They had a safety get into the game. Hayley van Vorhees,

1552
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 8: first woman to ever play an NCAA football game at

1553
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 8: a position other than kicker. She came on in the

1554
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 8: first quarter third downstop. She was unblocked at the line,

1555
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 8: got a hit on the quarterbacks, so she went into history. Meanwhile,

1556
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 8: we had what the athletic referred to as the Pac

1557
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 8: two championship game today, Oregon State at Washington State on

1558
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 8: Fox TV. Washington State's quarterback since national again cam Ward

1559
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 8: four hundred four three yards passing five total touchdowns, thirty

1560
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 8: eight to thirty five the final against fourteenth ranked Oregon State.

1561
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 8: It was thirty eight twenty one with six and a

1562
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 8: half minutes to go. Update it looks like USC has

1563
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 8: kicked a field goal. Yes, that is good, twenty four

1564
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 8: thirteen the lead in the third at ASU, Alabama was

1565
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 8: trailing at home to Ole Miss seven six at halftime.

1566
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 8: Remember Jalen Milroe did not play at quarterback last weekend

1567
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 8: at South Florida and that game was tied three to

1568
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 8: three in the third quarter. He had his shortcomings today,

1569
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 8: let's say, but he found wound up on the winning

1570
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 8: side one TD one interception twenty four to ten. The

1571
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 8: final against Mississippi North Carolina Winter Tonight forty one, twenty

1572
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 8: four at pitt Drake May one touchdown pass two hundred

1573
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 8: and ninety six yards and sacked five times. Eighteenth ranked

1574
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 8: Duke won at Yukon forty one to seven. Duke is

1575
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 8: four and oh And next Saturday night, Duke Hoast Notre

1576
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 8: Dame Yukon by the way, zero to four. But it's

1577
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 8: next two games are against Utah State and Rice. So

1578
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 8: you're looking forward to W and then W for Yukon

1579
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:12,520
Speaker 8: football here, not enough congratulations, well, not quite the enthusiasm

1580
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 8: we had for Yukun football at the beginning.

1581
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 2: Number one high school basketball recruit in America is on

1582
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: an official visit to Yukon this weekend.

1583
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: That's all.

1584
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 8: So we're almost a basketball season, is essentially what that

1585
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 8: answer is. Next Saturday, it's Florida at Kentucky. Florida settled

1586
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 8: for five for five on field goals. They wound up

1587
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 8: winning twenty two to seven over dreaded Charlotte. Number twenty

1588
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 8: three Tennessee forty five fourteen winners against ut San Antonio

1589
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 8: Valls had over three hundred yards rushing in the game,

1590
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 8: just in the first half. Quarterback Joe Milton three total touchdowns.

1591
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 8: Temple hosted number twenty ranked Miami, and the attendance was

1592
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 8: just seventeen thousand in the Philadelphia Eagles Stadium forty one

1593
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 8: to seven Hurricanes.

1594
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: The final.

1595
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 8: Temple as a team sixteen carries, eleven yards, one fumble.

1596
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 8: Indiana in four overtimes beat Akron twenty nine twenty seven.

1597
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 8: West Virginia defeated Texas Tech twenty to thirteen, and Texas

1598
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 8: Tech quarterback Tyler Schuck reportedly as a broken leg. Victories

1599
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 8: for Kansas and Iowa State. Louisville rip Boston College fifty

1600
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 8: six twenty eight, the BC team that just about took

1601
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 8: FSU to overtime last week, Northwestern came back to win

1602
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 8: an overtime against Minnesota thirty seven thirty four.

1603
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: By the way, Indiana twenty nine points and four overtimes,

1604
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 2: their former quarterback, of course, Michael Pennix has fifty two points.

1605
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 1: Gosh, I forgot all about Penix being I killed caree.

1606
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh it happened. It's a thing. Michael Pennick should be

1607
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: your Heisman favorite as of right now. Coming up we

1608
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: go back to the story of the night, South Bend, Indiana.

1609
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: That's next. Fox Sports Trido. Welcome in everybody, Final hour

1610
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: of the show. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be. Jason, I'll tell you

1616
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Speaker 2: what you know. Well, I've been blabbing so much about

1617
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: this Washington game. Yeah, we got ourselves a little, a little,

1618
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: you know something bruin out in the desert. USC up

1619
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one on Arizona State with nine

1620
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: minutes to go. Now it's early, nine minutes to go

1621
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, I should say to be very clear,

1622
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: there's plenty of time, a lot going on, all that

1623
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: good stuff. But the mighty USC Trojans, who everybody loved

1624
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: after they beat Nevada and Stanford and whatever. They are

1625
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 2: up by three with nine minutes to go against the

1626
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: Arizona State Sun Devils.

1627
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in a fight. I mean, I anticipate they'll win.

1628
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 1: I anticipate they'll pull away, but stranger things have happened.

1629
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: It's late night. You mentioned it, and you're right. They

1630
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything in terms of competition zero And it's

1631
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 1: not like this is top flight pack twelve, but it

1632
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: is this the team in the conference that knows them well,

1633
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to earn this one. I suspect

1634
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: that they will, but it's a hostile environment, and we've

1635
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: seen crazy things happen in this very stadium to that

1636
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: very team, not to this very coach. Last guy I

1637
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: think that lost on this field then got fired on

1638
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: the tar.

1639
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: It's true. That is absolutely a one thousand percent through

1640
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. His final game as USC head coach. He

1641
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: was ultimately fired on the tarmac after losing to Arizona

1642
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: State in Tempe. So we'll keep you updated here. Twenty

1643
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: four to twenty one to nine minutes to go, Washington,

1644
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: all over Cal. By the way, we all know who

1645
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: USC has next week, of course, the Colorado Buffaloes. That

1646
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: will be our big noon game here on Fox. I

1647
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: think everybody thought Colorado probably could and would take a

1648
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: loss today. I don't think anybody thought that USC might

1649
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: be coming in on a lose streak, so we'll keep

1650
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: you updated on that one. And Jay, So we did

1651
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: talk Colorado earlier, but I do want to get back

1652
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: to what was ultimately, I believe, probably the story of

1653
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,959
Speaker 2: the day. I mean, Colorado was a twenty one point underdog.

1654
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: So I don't want to sit here and say that

1655
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: it was a shocker as they lost forty two to

1656
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: six to Oregon. But you know, you talk about a game,

1657
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,839
Speaker 2: a game of the night, a game of the season.

1658
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: So far, the Ohio State buck guys go to Notre

1659
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: Dame and win. When I say in the final seconds

1660
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: that isn't a metaphorical figure of speech. They got the

1661
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: ball back with about a minute twenty five left, go

1662
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 2: on a fifteen play drive sixty five yards. They convert

1663
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: a third and nineteen at the Notre Dame twenty two

1664
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: and they end up scoring with one second left on

1665
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: a run play Jason, a thrilling finish. They end up

1666
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: winning seventeen to fourteen. I'll tell you what, Loreno, why

1667
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: don't you play what Ryan Day had to say after

1668
01:23:59,120 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: the game.

1669
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: Yes, that's it.

1670
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 4: Physicality across the board, finishing off, having guts. Now, like

1671
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 4: I like to know where Lou Holtz is right now,

1672
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 4: what he said about our team, what he said about

1673
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 4: our team. I cannot believe. This is a tough team

1674
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 4: right here. We're proud to be from Ohio. And it's

1675
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: always been Ohio against the world, and it'll continue to

1676
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 4: be Ohio.

1677
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 8: Against the world.

1678
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, I love those kids who got.

1679
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: A tough team. That was right day after the Notre

1680
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Dame win.

1681
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm ready to.

1682
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: Go play for Ohio State. You know, I've been anti

1683
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: Ryan Day for a while. My guy was firing up.

1684
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: Ohio State gets the unbelievable win, unbelievable game, awesome game.

1685
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State gets the victory. Jason. They improved to four

1686
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: and zero in what was obviously, by the sound of

1687
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Ryan Day's voice, a very emotional game.

1688
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great game. Like I said off the

1689
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: top of the show, you really got bookends of great

1690
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: matchups because Florida State and Clemson. You want to talk

1691
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: about how great Ohio State Notre Dame turned out to be,

1692
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: we haven't even mentioned Florida State and Clemson. And it

1693
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: was excellent, and it was early, and it went to overtime,

1694
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of storylines coming out of that

1695
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: football game, and we haven't managed to get there at

1696
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: all because Ohio State and Notre Dame tonight just played.

1697
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: It was a war. It was yards were at a premium.

1698
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: Points were certainly at a premium. It took every second

1699
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: of the clock to determine the winner. Both teams played

1700
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: extremely hard, extremely physically everything. I mean, they had to

1701
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: earn it all night long. And I do think that

1702
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: this is the kind of game, right They got emotional

1703
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: about this because this is the kind of game that

1704
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: I think he feels, like his critics think he doesn't

1705
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: win games that are dogfights like this, games that when

1706
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: the finesse doesn't get it done anymore and you actually

1707
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: have to go and really beat somebody and physically stand

1708
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: toe to toe with them and be the aggressor. I

1709
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: think a lot of what he was saying defending his

1710
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: kids was defending the reputation that maybe he has not

1711
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: cared for that has been sort of pushed out there

1712
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: over the last few years about him. Unfortunately for him.

1713
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: I think it was accurate at the time, one accurate

1714
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: tonight for the most part, But you could even see

1715
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: instances in the first half where he was still kind

1716
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: of showing that and in the third quarter when he

1717
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: refused to do the quarterback sneak, like there are some

1718
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: critiques to be had, but his football team's undefeated, and

1719
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: that was a great and great that was just a

1720
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: great sporting event. There was so much drama and that crowd,

1721
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: that atmosphere was phenomenal.

1722
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely by the way. He had even more in the

1723
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: postgame press conference, he said, I don't know where he

1724
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: gets off saying those types of things. I don't I

1725
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: have some other things i'd like to say too, but

1726
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that because I'm more respectful than

1727
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: he is. I mean, I don't know.

1728
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you realize he's just smack talking, right Ryan,

1729
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He's a Notre Dame guy who

1730
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: was playing red meat to that audience. Like I think

1731
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: there was an audience, right, Like, yes, it was the

1732
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: pending clip, it was past, yeah, so there was a

1733
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: live audience. So he's playing to that. He's playing a

1734
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: little villain role. I don't think that that version of

1735
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: it is what he's going to say if he's actually

1736
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: doing legit analysis. But nobody's doing legit analysis in that moment,

1737
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,520
Speaker 1: so he's of course waving the pompoms and being overwrought,

1738
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: and Ryan Day taking it personally is kind of who cares? Man,

1739
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: Just like, get over it. The fact that he's mentioned

1740
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: it in pregame, on the field, in postgame on the field,

1741
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: and in the press conference after the game tells you.

1742
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: I bet you he cared about it way more than

1743
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: any of the players did.

1744
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: Thousand obviously. Yeah, here is what lou Holtz had to say. Said,

1745
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: we have the best offensive line in the country, obviously

1746
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: talking about Notre Dame Sam Hartman won't even get his

1747
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: jersey dirty all year. He has time to throw the

1748
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: football the offensive line. That's not what he said. I'm

1749
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: trying to find it. You look at coach Day. He

1750
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: has lost to Alabama, Georgia, Clemson in mission twice and

1751
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: everybody beats him because they're more physical than Ohio State.

1752
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 2: So that was essentially what he said. Yeah, I listen,

1753
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 2: I think this kind of speaks Listen, I'm not trying

1754
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 2: to tear down Ohio State after a great win here.

1755
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: I think that kind of speaks to like kind of

1756
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: what we've said about Ohio State, Like lou Holtz called

1757
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: him soft, Ryan Day talking about a coach. What a

1758
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: coach said that's been retired for twenty five years, who's

1759
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: eighty six years old? Like the fact that you heard

1760
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 2: that outside noise, the fact that you care what somebody

1761
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: that eighty six years old had to say. Now, by

1762
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: the way, maybe this is one of those like you know, Dion,

1763
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: like you know, finding something to be upset about, you know,

1764
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Like like I thought some of the stuff, like a

1765
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: few weeks ago with Matt Ruhle, I thought it felt

1766
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: like they were just trying to find motivation, which is fine,

1767
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with it. Like I, like you said,

1768
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that Ohio State Like I wonder how

1769
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 2: many Ohio State players even know who Lou Holtz is, Like.

1770
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Right, I mean that I think there's that, But there's

1771
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: also this, Like, with all due respect to the show

1772
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: that that lou hole said this on, I didn't even

1773
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: know about this until Ryan Day mentioned it and I

1774
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: went and looked it up. Like if he doesn't mention it,

1775
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody cares. And if Ryan Day's

1776
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: team comes out and wins, which they would have either way, right,

1777
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: I mean, like you can go behind closed doors and

1778
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: tell your kids whatever you want to tell them to

1779
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: build them up and say, hey, this dude was a

1780
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: legend of Notre Dame a lot of you. You know,

1781
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: it happened before your time, but he was talking about

1782
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: your toughness. But what you don't do, in my opinion,

1783
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: is then make that public three times before, after and

1784
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: in the press conference. Just talk about the fact that

1785
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: you won the game. Be the coach. I mean, is

1786
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: Lou Hole's going to be talking now? Probably not, because

1787
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: you beat him. There's not really any reason to then

1788
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: go forward on it because he shouldn't be your story.

1789
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: There shouldn't be a part of the storyline where you're at,

1790
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: where you are speaking to someone who criticized. Just go

1791
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: win the game, which you did. Go take your undefeated

1792
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: record and play next week. Like lou Holtz talked, and

1793
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 1: no one knew about it, No one cared largely, like

1794
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't know about it. Maybe a lot

1795
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: of people did, but to me that that was an

1796
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 1: unnecessary reaction. Three times. I understand that he was emotional,

1797
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: and I understand that he took it personally because it's

1798
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: going to his brand of I don't want to use

1799
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: the word. I don't want to use that word, but

1800
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: just non aggressiveness that we have. I think we've come

1801
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: to co Ohio State display at times where they have

1802
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: not shown a killer instinct, and so he was using that.

1803
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: And again I do think he was he was playing

1804
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: to the audience and having some fun with it. But

1805
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: I will say when we when we actually listen to

1806
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: what he said or you read the words and he

1807
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: mentions coach Day and how he loses because they're more aggressive.

1808
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, methinks thou doth protests too much

1809
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to Bryan Day because he knows that's

1810
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: the general knock on him at this stage in his

1811
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: career is that you can beat him if you can

1812
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: out physical his football team, because that's what's been seen.

1813
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: Like he's saying, didn't he say earlier that he's like

1814
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 1: we played one bad half in a couple of years.

1815
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 1: It's like that's not true, Like that's just not accurate.

1816
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: No, he said something like that as well. That wasn't

1817
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 2: in the sound that we played, but he did say

1818
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: something about, you know, everyone's freaking out because we played

1819
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 2: one bad half. No, you got smoked by Michigan at

1820
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: the very least in the second half last year got

1821
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 2: smoked by him in the second half the year before,

1822
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, last year in the playoff they lose, Marvin

1823
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 2: Harrison gets hurt, but like they weren't great in the

1824
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: second half either. What do you think about Ohio State

1825
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: in the big picture, because you know, I think with

1826
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 2: Ohio State in the big picture, I think you could

1827
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 2: look at it from one of two ways. Is that

1828
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: one we talked about it earlier and by the way,

1829
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: if anybody missed it, make sure to go back and

1830
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 2: download the podcast. After the show, we talked about the

1831
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: fact that Ohio State, you know, this team just might

1832
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: be different. Is the defense was excellent all night. You know,

1833
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 2: Trayvon Henderson the running back, had over one hundred yards rushing.

1834
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Two really good wide receivers. You know, Marvin Harrison wasn't

1835
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 2: even the leading receiver this this evening. A mecha BUCA

1836
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 2: who actually you know, mel Kiper has projected as a

1837
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 2: first round pick as well. Shows you how deep that

1838
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver room is. I just bring it up because

1839
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 2: on the one hand, this just might be a different

1840
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:26,520
Speaker 2: kind of Ohio State team. But two, I do wonder,

1841
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, in the bigger picture, this might be the

1842
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 2: year I mean, you look across college football. You know,

1843
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Florida State has two great wins. We haven't even talked

1844
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: about them, by the way, but Florida State has two

1845
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: great wins. Jordan Travis at quarterback, quinn Ewers has been

1846
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 2: awesome this year, Michael Pennix at Washington, bow Nix at Oregon.

1847
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: To beat some of these great teams, you might need

1848
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 2: great quarterback plays. So maybe it's way too early to

1849
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: look too too much into the future, but I think

1850
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 2: you could look at it as a positive from the

1851
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State perspective of, Hey, maybe they don't have that elite, elite,

1852
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 2: upper level quarterback, but maybe everywhere else is so good

1853
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 2: that they don't need him. But then in the bigger picture,

1854
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: maybe some of it is you might need that guy

1855
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: in a year where quarterbacks have been the story.

1856
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: Of the sport so far. Yeah, I mean, I think

1857
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: that's true. I also think that we are coming to

1858
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: a place where, at least this year, I'm not sure

1859
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: what to make of a lot of these teams yet.

1860
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: And like, I don't even know how good Georgia is

1861
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: quite yet because they hadn't played anybody.

1862
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 2: How about Michigan, They have Michigan is another example of it.

1863
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I was gonna at some point prior to

1864
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 1: the show today, I was thinking, well, it just feels

1865
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: like Georgia and Michigan then there's everybody else. But that's

1866
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: not really it, Like I think there's just there's just

1867
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: a big conglomeration to teams. I've still got Georgia winning

1868
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: at all, and I've got them beating Michigan. I had

1869
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: that before the year, but I just kind of look

1870
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: at it. It's just it feels a little bit more

1871
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: wide open to me because there are reasons to like

1872
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,480
Speaker 1: and then not to like virtually everybody, Like, is Texas

1873
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: third best in the country, I don't know, Florida State

1874
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 1: USC there's flaw was there? Florida State easily could have

1875
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: lost today. You know, Notre Dame was a top ten

1876
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: team coming in and they could have won. Ohio State's undefeated.

1877
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: Are they that much better than Notre Dame? Are they

1878
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: better than Washington? Are they betteran I don't know, Like

1879
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel Usually by this point I have

1880
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good sense of who I think is really

1881
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: really good, and it just and maybe this is just

1882
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: I haven't noticed as much in years past, but it

1883
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like we have much of a resume

1884
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: on a lot of these teams with which to bank

1885
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: how good they actually are. You talked about yours, for example, Well,

1886
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: the Alabama team they beat, we now know for sure,

1887
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: is just not really all that good. That doesn't mean

1888
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: that win doesn't matter. It does mean that we can't

1889
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: overvalue it and act like they beat a national champion

1890
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: level Alabama team because they didn't totally fair.

1891
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think the teams at the top, like

1892
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: I feel like, have looked I don't you know. I mean, listen,

1893
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: Georgia and Michigan have both been good so far, so

1894
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 2: it's hard to say that they haven't looked dominant. But no,

1895
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I don't know if like, I

1896
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: don't know who I would vote number one today if

1897
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: I had an AP vote, which I don't. By the way,

1898
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: USC has kicked a field goal. They're up twenty seven

1899
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 2: to twenty one. Now they are driving again as well, Like,

1900
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: if I had an AP vote, I don't know who

1901
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 2: I would put number one, Like it feels like a

1902
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: prisoner of the moment thing. The night Texas beats Alabama,

1903
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 2: you probably have them number one. The week before you

1904
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 2: have Florida State. I think with the way that Oregon

1905
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: is dominated, and you can make the case for them,

1906
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: but I don't know that there's a great team, and

1907
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see and it'll be fascinating

1908
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: because I don't think there's that dominant Alabama team. I

1909
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 2: don't think Ohio State is definitively the best team in

1910
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, even though they took care of business today.

1911
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: Washington and Oregon both look good in the Pac twelve.

1912
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 2: So it is an interesting year and we will have

1913
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: to wait and see because there's still a lot of

1914
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Speaker 2: football left. But I agree there is you know, doesn't

1915
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Speaker 2: feel like there's one or two teams running away from

1916
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1917
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1918
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1925
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1932
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Speaker 2: we are one game in two Week three of the

1933
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Speaker 2: NFL season. We talked earlier today about the San Francisco

1934
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: win over the New York Football Giants. Jason, I wanted

1935
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: to go through some of these big Week three games

1936
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of a lighter slate, but I think

1937
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 2: there's some interesting storylines this weekend, and I want to

1938
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 2: start a little place called Minneapolis, Minnesota. This game to

1939
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 2: me is interesting, right, So Los Angeles Chargers oh and

1940
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: two travel to the Minnesota Vikings, who are also oh

1941
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 2: and two. Listen, I'll say this is that you know

1942
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 2: the stats on starting oh and two, oh and three

1943
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 2: and making the playoffs like that. Stuff's obviously changed with

1944
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 2: the extra wildcard spot, But who, like, just point blank,

1945
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: I think I know the answer, But who do you

1946
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 2: think needs to win more?

1947
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: On Sunday between the Chargers and the Vikings, Man, I mean, yes, yeah, yeah,

1948
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's really it's real. It's the Chargers for me.

1949
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: But maybe that's because I was biased to that degree

1950
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: before the season, because I've been so adamant that the

1951
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 1: Staway decision was the wrong one and that this was

1952
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: going to prove out not to work, and so far

1953
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: it hasn't. I mean, a couple of bad choices against Tennessee.

1954
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: You find a way to lose that game after losing

1955
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: because you you know you're look, Brandon stee is a

1956
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That's how he gets the job. He's a

1957
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator with the Rams. He ends up moving over

1958
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: and the defense has been not good under his tenure,

1959
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: virtually at all. They've paid money to J. C. Jackson.

1960
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: He comes in, they have to take him off the

1961
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: field on crucial downs. It just isn't working out very well.

1962
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota gets rid of Dalvin Cook and then Madison has

1963
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: a bad game. They have some things there. Now they've

1964
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: brought in a new back, and you know, I don't

1965
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: know that he plays. I don't think he is going

1966
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: to play actually this week, but he will probably be

1967
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Speaker 1: in the lineup next week. I would say it is

1968
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Speaker 1: the Chargers, but I was down on Minnesota entering the

1969
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Speaker 1: year just because I didn't buy into what they did

1970
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: last year. The Chargers didn't do much last year, so

1971
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I kind of think it's more of them because I

1972
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: think their coach can't survive much more of this.

1973
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask you. I heard John Middlekoff,

1974
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 2: you know, former NFL scout does great work in the media.

1975
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 2: Now he made the argument, if Brandon stalely loses this game.

1976
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Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for John. I don't know

1977
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: if he said he could be fired or he should

1978
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Speaker 2: be fired. Do you think there's any way with the

1979
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: way that we know that the Chargers operate. Now, now,

1980
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 2: let me play devil's advocate. I could play both sides here, right. So,

1981
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 2: on the one hand, the Chargers, notoriously, especially with coaches,

1982
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 2: kind of sort of cheap. Okay, obviously, you know took

1983
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 2: the cheap route with Brandon Staley last year. Sean Payton

1984
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 2: was available. There was rumors that he wanted that job,

1985
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 2: so I could see the scenario where they kind of

1986
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 2: just give him more time, even though I think we

1987
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Speaker 2: all kind of know he's not the guy the counter

1988
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 2: would be. Though Jason Kellen Moore, as of like eighteen

1989
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 2: months ago, was considered to be a hot head coaching candidate. Sure,

1990
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: he's now the offensive coordinator, and you could potentially give

1991
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 2: him a little bit of a job interview on the job,

1992
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 2: But I guess, I guess the core question I'm asking

1993
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Speaker 2: do you believe, in any way, shape or form, that

1994
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Speaker 2: the Chargers, if they were to lose this game, to

1995
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: fall to oh and three, would actually have the guts

1996
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Speaker 2: to pull the trigger on Brandon Staley come Monday.

1997
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think that you make that

1998
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: choice and then three weeks in you say we screwed

1999
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: that one up. I think you go a little bit

2000
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: longer than this. I don't know that you're salvaging the

2001
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: season if you go oh and three. I guess I

2002
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: mean you have seen a couple of other AFC teams

2003
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: that you expected more from quite frankly, not do anything

2004
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: much yet, So maybe you're not completely out of it.

2005
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: But I think at the very least you probably go

2006
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: round mid season and if it's a total disaster, you

2007
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: let it go. But I would be shocked if they

2008
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: made the move this fast.

2009
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree. By the way, now, let

2010
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 2: me play it the other side of it. If the

2011
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Vikings were to lose this game, you fall to oh

2012
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: and three. Now, granted, the division still feels very much

2013
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 2: up for grabs. Both Detroit and Green Bay already have

2014
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 2: one loss. I saw our colleague on Sundays, Kyle Rudolph,

2015
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 2: former Minnesota Viking, say that he thinks they should consider

2016
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 2: trading Kirk Cousins. I think the thought would be maybe

2017
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 2: the Jets. The Jets obviously, I don't think anybody thinks

2018
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,839
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson is going to be starting the next fifteen

2019
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Speaker 2: weeks for them. Do you think, and we talked about earlier,

2020
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Speaker 2: all the great quarterbacks that could potentially be in this draft,

2021
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: do you think the Vikings, if they fall to zero

2022
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 2: and three, should consider kind of blowing this thing up

2023
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: and starting to prepare for next year.

2024
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 1: I mean, do I think Kirk Cousins is the biggest

2025
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: issue with that team?

2026
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 3: No?

2027
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 1: But do I think he is right in that mixture

2028
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that you don't want because he just

2029
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,520
Speaker 1: teases you enough to keep you away from the replacement

2030
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: that you might actually need to take that next step. Yes,

2031
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: and Rudolph is it's interesting that it's Rudolph saying it

2032
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: because Rudolph has firsthand knowledge of it, and for him

2033
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: to say it, he's almost he's almost basically saying, Yeah,

2034
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, we've been here and done this for a

2035
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,640
Speaker 1: long time. Can we finally cut the court on this

2036
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: and try a different way? And there will be suitors

2037
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: out there that would want Kirk Cousins because he's better

2038
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 1: than what they have. And even though that's not the

2039
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: way I'd want to run a franchise, that's the way

2040
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 1: a lot of franchises are run. Yeah, let me, I

2041
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: think that would happen. It happened after week three. No,

2042
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: but I could see that and Staway both being things

2043
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: we're talking about a month from now.

2044
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I agree, And that's why I think it's

2045
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 2: an interesting game. Because you fall to zero to three,

2046
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 2: you do have to have those tough you do have

2047
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 2: to have those tough questions. As far as as far

2048
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 2: as the quarterback positions concerned, I'm trying to find Kyle

2049
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 2: Rudolph's quotes. He said, Kirk Cousins brought was brought to

2050
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota to get them over the hump to win a

2051
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: super Bowl coming off the NFC Championship game loss. That

2052
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: is true. The quarterback was supposed to be the missing

2053
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 2: piece that put the super talented roster over the top

2054
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 2: to win a championship. We're at the spot from an

2055
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: organizational standpoint, where where are you going? Why haven't you

2056
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 2: extended him? Kyle Rudolph said that last week with our

2057
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 2: buddy Mark Willards. So, like you said, I don't think

2058
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: either of those moves gets made necessarily after this week,

2059
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,480
Speaker 2: but I think both of them have to be considered

2060
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 2: if you go zero to three and certainly going forward.

2061
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, there's a lot of other games

2062
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: that I do want to get to. We'll come back.

2063
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 2: We'll preview all the other big storylines this weekend. But

2064
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 2: before we do, though, final time, let's toss it over

2065
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 2: the news desk. We can't always say there's stuff trending

2066
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 2: at one thirty one Eastern time, but there absolutely is

2067
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 2: right about to Saga and Tempe.

2068
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 8: Early fourth quarter on Fox TV, Number five ranked USC

2069
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 8: is only leading twenty seven twenty one at Arizona State,

2070
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 8: Heisman winning quarterback Kayleb Williams has one touchdown pass and

2071
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 8: two TV runs. Meanwhile, about ten minutes left in the

2072
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 8: game at a thranked Washington Huskies now fifty two to

2073
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 8: twenty five over Cal Washington quarterback Michael Pennix in three

2074
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 8: quarters at over three hundred yards, passing four touchdowns, one interception,

2075
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 8: minute to goo until Fresno State becomes four on the season.

2076
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 8: At Fresno home team leads Kent State fifty three to ten.

2077
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 8: The late games at halftime at Hawaii, New Mexico State

2078
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 8: leading the visitors up seventeen to three. We had Ohio

2079
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 8: State winning at Notre Dame seventeen fourteen. Of course that

2080
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 8: was on NBC, the Notre Dame Broadcasting Company, but they've

2081
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 8: expanded to Big ten now and the athletic pointing out

2082
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 8: for three hundred and fifty million dollars a year. So

2083
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 8: far this season, NBC has gotten Charlotte Versus, Maryland got Syracuse,

2084
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 8: Purdue got Maryland, Michigan State, which was thirty one to

2085
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 8: nine for the Terps. Next week they've got Michigan State,

2086
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 8: Iowa farmers.

2087
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Wow, a missioner stuff.

2088
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Warren. I could not believe, Like I couldn't believe,

2089
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 2: but I was like, they got the third game for

2090
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 2: the Big ten. By the way, poor PAC twelve, they

2091
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 2: could have saved some of that money just given it

2092
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 2: to the PAC twelve. They actually have a good product.

2093
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 2: But I guess they got the tea if they wanted.

2094
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2095
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 8: Well, it also takes two sides to get an agreement,

2096
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 8: and we all know where the PAC twelve was on

2097
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 8: that in the last couple of year. In the I'll

2098
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 8: say it again, PAC two Championship game, Washington State beat

2099
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 8: Oregon State thirty eight to thirty five. Utah beat UCLA

2100
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 8: fourteen to seven. You'd scored on a pick six on

2101
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 8: the first play from scrimmage. Today, Tenth ranked Oregon was

2102
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 8: up on Colorado forty two to nothing early second half

2103
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 8: forty two to six. The final Tonight, Number twelve LSU

2104
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 8: beat Arkansas thirty four to thirty one on a short

2105
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 8: field goal in the final seconds Shadon Taniels with four

2106
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 8: touchdown passes. LSU had trailed thirteen three just before halftime.

2107
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 8: Thirteenth ranked Alabama at home was trailing Old Miss at

2108
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,879
Speaker 8: the half seven to six. Bama won the game twenty

2109
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 8: four to ten victories on the road for Oklahoma, North

2110
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 8: Carolina for Duke, and Miami. Home wins for Tennessee and Florida,

2111
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 8: Indiana in four overtimes beat Akron. Northwestern came back for

2112
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 8: an overtime victory against Minnesota. Arizona won twenty one twenty

2113
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,839
Speaker 8: at Stanford. West Virginia down Texas Tech twenty to thirteen.

2114
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 8: Texas Tech quarterback Tyler Shuck suffered a broken leg. Now

2115
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 8: of the top ten victories for Georgia and Michigan for

2116
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 8: Texas and Penn State, and number four Florida State won

2117
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 8: its game at Clemson in overtime thirty one to twenty four.

2118
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 8: Fasu scored a key touchdown late third quarter on a

2119
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 8: fumble return, and Clemson, with under two minutes left in

2120
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter, missed a twenty nine yard field goal

2121
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 8: attempt and eventually the l for the home team in overtime.

2122
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 8: Number six Ohio State a winner at number nine Notre

2123
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 8: Dames seventeen to fourteen on a one yard td with

2124
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 8: one second left. The Buckeyes had blown a ten to

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Speaker 8: nothing lead, but still came out with a w as

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Speaker 8: Notre Dames defense had only ten players on the field

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Speaker 8: for the last two plays. And before we leave college football,

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Speaker 8: there was with the Colorado game, of course, a lot

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Speaker 8: of lopsided stats to throw. You had a good one

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Speaker 8: that Oregon had more touchdowns than Colorado had first downs

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Speaker 8: in the first half. Actually, it was thirty five points

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Speaker 8: allowed and Colorado only had twenty one yards in the

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Speaker 8: first half. Said I wonder in recent years of college

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01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 8: football has that happened to any other ranked team? The

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Speaker 8: answer is always reliable. The Iowahwke Eyes ten years ago

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Speaker 8: had a first half where they allowed twenty points and

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Speaker 8: they had only seventeen yards ouch. Dolphins wide receiver Jalen

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01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 8: Waddle is out tomorrow with a concussion. The Saints place

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01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 8: running back Jamal Williams on ir Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow

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01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 8: with the sore calf, questionable for Monday night. Eagles wide

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01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 8: receiver DeVante Smith practice fully so he should play Monday,

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01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 8: and Tampa Bay linebacker Devin White is also due to play.

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01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 8: In baseball, the Dodgers and Clayton Kershaw beat the Giants

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01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 8: seven nothing. The Dodgers offentially officially clinch a first round

2145
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 8: by the Padres had one eighth straight, but they lost

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01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 8: at home in eleven innings tonight, five two to Saint

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01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 8: Louis in the al Wes. The Texas Rangers are now

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01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 8: game and a half over Houston and two up on Seattle.

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01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 8: Texas shut out Seattle to nothing. Well, Houston lost at

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01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 8: home to the on rushing Kansas City Royals three to two.

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01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,839
Speaker 8: You know, earlier this week the Royals had a record

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01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 8: of forty eight and one oh two, and now they've

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01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 8: won five games in a row. The guy that was

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01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 8: the winning pitcher for him tonight, Jordan Lyles, had been

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01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 8: four and seventeen this year and won at Houston. And

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01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 8: then we had the comeback in the history of the

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01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Pirates, which goes back to the eighteen hundreds. They

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01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 8: were down nine to nothing after three innings and still

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01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 8: won at Cincinnati thirteen to twelve. A crusher for the Reds,

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01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 8: which just over a week left in the regular season.

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01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 8: Here the Cubs in Miami each one. Cubs lead for

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01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 8: the final wildcard spot in the NL by one game

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01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 8: over Miami, now two and a half up on the Reds.

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Speaker 8: Victories for Baltimore and Tampa Bay updating USC leads at

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Speaker 8: Arizona State twenty seven twenty one, eleven and a half

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Speaker 8: minutes to go, and it's looking like they stripped the

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01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 8: quarterback on a sack fumble. Trojans recover. Just while we've

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01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 8: been speaking, the Huskies have scored again, Washington fifty nine

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01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 8: to twenty five over col mid fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, to Sega, to Sega,

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01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 2: have a great evening. By the way, were you on

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01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 2: air when Kyle Rudolph was just dropping Minnesota Vikings nuggets

2173
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 2: last week?

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Speaker 8: I was here last week. He's he's doing the show

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01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 8: from Minnesota. I think, so you got Mark Willard is

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01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 8: really excited for the season and the new show, the

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Speaker 8: new co host on Sunday nights. There's this half second

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01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 8: delay before he responds to sentences, so Mark's all excited.

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Speaker 2: Great way, it was a great day in the NFL.

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01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 8: Kyle, how you doing complete dead air?

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01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 2: Doing fine? Bys A.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully that gets settled, because I mean, we have guys

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01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 8: sometimes do shows from out of state and they don't

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01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 8: have that kind of delay. It was almost like he

2186
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 8: had to think, was it a good day? Am I

2187
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 8: feeling okay? It wasn't, but hopefully that gets rectified. That's

2188
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 8: only been on two Sundays here as the season has started.

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01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 8: So tomorrow eight pm Eastern.

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01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: Time was already making national headlines because I did see

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01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 2: did some It was just prepping for the show, and

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01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 2: I saw his comment on Kirk Cousins, and you know,

2193
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 2: obviously there's no one better to speak on Kirk Cousins

2194
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 2: and the Vikings than Kyle Rudolph. You can hear Kyle

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01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 2: Rudolph with Mark Willard what five pm Pacific eight Eastern

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01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 2: tomorrow to Saga will be back with them and then

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01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 2: Chris plankhosts and you know whatever somebody I ca yeah,

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01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember. Oh it's Ernie Spanner, Okay, Ernie Spanners

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01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats held on for dear life against an awful

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01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 2: Stanford team today. By the way, Arnie Spanners Arizona Wildcats

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01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 2: play Washington next week, so oh hello, that'll be on

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01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 2: during our show. But I'm good, all right to Saga.

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01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,759
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, my friend. Have a great evening, Jason.

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01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 2: Let's just really quickly get to a couple more of

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01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 2: these games, and by the way, we have time after

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01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 2: the break to do it. As well. Let's go to

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01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jason, give me your Denver Bronco spiel.

2208
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 2: They're going to Miami. Miami's obviously looked awesome coming off

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Speaker 2: the Sunday Night football win. They're two and zero your

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01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos owing to the miracle Hail Mary, only to

2211
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 2: not fai not convert the two point convert? Where are

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01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 2: you at on your Broncos? Go ahead? I know you

2213
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 2: want to talk about them.

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01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 1: They're better than they were last year, and they're still

2215
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: not very good, and Russell Wilson shows flashes, but nothing

2216
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: that would indicate that the guy that you were used

2217
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 1: to seeing is the guy that's still there. I think

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01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: Sean Payton knows that as well as anybody else does.

2219
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Feels like a one and done scenario where you know,

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01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he takes a job if he isn't

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01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 1: told that they can move on from Russ at the

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01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: end of the season if it doesn't work. They've dealt

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01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 1: with some injury, so that's a problem that no Waddle

2224
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: for Miami is an issue certainly for them, But I

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01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: just I feel like at this stage Denver is not

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01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: the kind of football team I would pick to go

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01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: on the road to beat the Miami Dolphins team. So

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01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where we stand right now. Oh

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01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: and two, that's probably likely. Oh and three, they certainly

2230
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: look better coached and more discipline than they were last year.

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01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: But you know that's not a high bar to clear,

2232
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 1: so there's still work to be done for Sean Payton.

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01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 2: Quick update from the college game. USC has scored a

2234
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 2: touchdown and converted a two point conversion, so they are

2235
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 2: now up thirty five to twenty one. Jason one more

2236
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: kind of interdivisional AFC West game. Sunday night game. The

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: Raiders host the Steelers, and I just don't think the

2238
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Steelers are very good. I mean, I've done Mike Kenny

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01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 2: Pickett Spiel. I think he's largely overrated because he's a Steeler,

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Speaker 2: because he was the only quarterback taken in the first round,

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01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 2: so we had a lot of eyeballs on him last year.

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01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing is he plays a

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01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 2: lot in the preseason, and so he's the one starter

2244
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: that plays a lot. We analyze them, we overanalyze them.

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01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 2: I know the Steelers were able to hold on to

2246
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 2: beat the Cleveland Browns last week, but you know you

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01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 2: look at it, two hundred and fifty five yards of

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01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 2: total offense. The run game is nonexistent. I don't think

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01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 2: this team is very good. I don't think the Raiders

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01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 2: are very good. But they're at home. They obviously took

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01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: care of as we just mentioned the York Denver Broncos

2252
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: a few days ago. This will be the Raiders home opener.

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01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders get the win here, Jason, I

2254
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 2: really do.

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Speaker 1: They might. I mean, it's not likely to be a shootout.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that this game could probably be won

2257
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 1: at about twenty points. I wouldn't be surprised. But because

2258
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: it's in Vegas, I feel like DeVante Adams could be

2259
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 1: your difference if nothing else. I tend to agree with

2260
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: you on this. I just I like Kenny Pickett fine,

2261
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: but that's that's kind of where I am with him.

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01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: He's just he's just a guy. At this stage, there's

2263
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna take more and they're still banged up. They're hurting

2264
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: as well. They've had some crucial losses as a matter

2265
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 1: of fact, So I kind of like the Raiders too.

2266
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason will come back. We will rap

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01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 2: with the rest of the week three NFL slate. That's

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01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:47,439
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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: He is the play by play voice of the Florida

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01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 2: State Seminoles. Florida State Jason, we didn't even get a

2287
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 2: chance to talk about this game. They rally to win,

2288
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 2: and you really you called this early in the day,

2289
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 2: you said, we gotta get this sound into the show

2290
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: because Clemson was up twenty four to seventeen. Late in

2291
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 2: the third quarter. They were driving and as we just

2292
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 2: saw as we just heard a scoop and score from

2293
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 2: Florida State ties up the game. They end up win

2294
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 2: in overtime. Clemson had all the momentum. They don't we

2295
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 2: don't know this, but I think they would have won

2296
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: if that play does not happen. Instead, Florida State survives,

2297
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 2: they advanced. They're now four to zero Clemson zero to

2298
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 2: two in acc play.

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, I mean, it was just a huge turning

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01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: point moment because they had just stopped Florida State. That

2301
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: was a hard fought game too, and it was going

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 1: back and forth and it was kind of hard to

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01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: see who had the momentum at different times, but at

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01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 1: this point it was clearly Clemson. And when they got

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01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: the ball and they were driving, they had just had

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01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: a couple of first downs, looked like they were on

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01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 1: the verge of scoring. You go up thirty one seventeen

2308
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: in a game like that, you feel pretty good about

2309
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: your chances going into the final quarter and man club

2310
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: Nick got rocked, lost the ball and it ends up

2311
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: in the end zone, ends up tied, and those turn

2312
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 1: out to be the last points Clempson scores at all

2313
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 1: after that ties it, and then the only other points

2314
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: are in overtime and they are Florida State points and

2315
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: you see how that goes. There were two obvious game

2316
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: changing play today, one being the final play certainly in

2317
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: South Bend and that play and those were also coincidentally

2318
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: the two best games of the day.

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01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 2: They were yes, so we yeah. So Clemson does end

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01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 2: up losing, Florida State wins, and as Jason just said,

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01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State holds on on the final play from scrimmage

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01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 2: of the game for the buck guys, they score with

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01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 2: one second left on the clock. Jas, let's wrap the

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01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 2: show just you know, rip through some of these NFL

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01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 2: games that we have not gotten to. It is a

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Speaker 2: busy Week four slate or Week three slate. Excuse me

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01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 2: as always, we're wrapping up Week four in college football.

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01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 2: By the way, should mention the game in the Desert

2329
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 2: far from over. Arizona State has just scored USC up

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01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 2: thirty five to twenty eight. In that one, USC up

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01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 2: thirty five to twenty eight, eight minutes to go. That

2332
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 2: one is far from over. As us trying to avoid

2333
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: the upset, we will keep you updated on that for

2334
01:56:58,160 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: the next nine minutes and then Bernie Fredda will be

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 2: following us let's keep it going, Jason. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: a bunch of these games, you know, one we didn't

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Speaker 2: get to, and I don't think there's much doubt over

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Speaker 2: who is gonna win, but Chicago at Kansas City. Kansas

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Speaker 2: City with a nice bounce back win over the Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: Jaguars last week. Chicago Bears not so much. They obviously

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Speaker 2: lost to Jordan Love and the Packers in week one,

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Speaker 2: then to Baker Mayfield and the Bucks in week two.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields, we saw the back and forth with the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff. First it sounded like he was criticizing him,

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Speaker 2: then it sounded like he wasn't. Is Justin Fields like,

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Speaker 2: is he unsalvagable at this point for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about unsalvagable, but we're getting into that

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Speaker 1: territory where maybe this is who this guy is. And

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Speaker 1: I don't mean from a mental standpoint that, you know,

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Speaker 1: anybody can say something that they regret or it comes

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01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,879
Speaker 1: out the wrong way or it's out of context or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just more of the place, so inconsistent,

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Speaker 1: and I think they may have broken him before they

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01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: actually got a little bit of talent around him. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I said a few years ago, I felt

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Speaker 1: sorry for him because after watching what they did not

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01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 1: do for him last season in the draft or and

2358
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Speaker 1: free agency, they gave him nothing to work with at all.

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Speaker 1: They they may have just kind of stunted his growth

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Speaker 1: to some degree. And now they've got DJ Moore and

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Speaker 1: they have a little bit around him. But I think

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Speaker 1: he's just kind of been in a funk and it's

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01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: hard to get out of that, and that might be

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Speaker 1: the problem. It may be the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: a change of scener he can fix, but that that

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Speaker 1: organization was so broken when they drafted him and then

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Speaker 1: they made every bad decision you could possibly make after

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Speaker 1: that point that he's gonna have to go somewhere else

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Speaker 1: to resurrect his career.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jason, the division that we all agreed

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Speaker 2: was quote unquote by far the worst in the league.

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Speaker 2: The NFC South has three two and oh teams. The

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons are taking on tomorrow, they will face the

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Speaker 2: They will be at Detroit to face the Lions. The

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucks, as I just mentioned, are playing on

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Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, and then, oh, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints at two and oh are playing tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at Green Bay. Who do you think is the best

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Speaker 2: team in that division?

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Speaker 1: Jays, I think Atlanta is. Oh. Personally, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Saints are great. I don't buy

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Speaker 1: into Tampa Bay at all. Good for them for what

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01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 1: they've done to start the year, but I think that's

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01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 1: smoking mirrors obviously, Carolina deal with Bryce Young's injury and

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01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: just him being a rookie and the growing pains of

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01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: that we're seeing sort of the outpouring. But I think

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Speaker 1: Atlanta is a good football so I think. But John

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01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: Robinson has already proven to be somebody you can't take

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01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 1: your eyes off of when he's on the field. I

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01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 1: don't know about Ritter long term, but I really like

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01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. I've of course got to watch a lot

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01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 1: of his act when he was here in Nashville with

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01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 1: the Titans. He's just a great mind, very very fundamentally

2394
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: sound understands offense. I like their concepts. I like the

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01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: way they're building down there. I think Atlanta might be

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01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: the most solid team in the division.

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Speaker 2: The Sager mentioned earlier some bad weather rolling through Washington.

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Speaker 2: They're a six point favorite against the Bills. I think

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Speaker 2: Washington might just be decent, not great, but decent. You know,

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Speaker 2: remember Eric b Enemy is now calling the offense ron

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Speaker 2: rivera handling the defense. They took care of your Broncos

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02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 2: last week. I think they might be good. I'm calling

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Speaker 2: for the outright upset commanders beat the Bills tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Jason. I won't go there. The rain will make it

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02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 1: interesting if indeed that's it. I agree with you, though

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this, but I think they're pretty good.

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02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: They're not bad, They're not great, but they're pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo will beat them though.

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Speaker 2: We got got you want to thank the crew, Loraina

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Speaker 2: on the board producer pat Steve de Sager from a partner,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, I'm Aren Torres. Make sure you go down

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