1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy B. Wilson. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Then I'm Holly Fry. This week we looked back at 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: flu Pandemic, which we had already done an episode on back. 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: It's not something we have ever done before. I don't 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: think like gone back and just revisited an entire episode. 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: We've updated stuff before, we've talked about stuff and unearthed, 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: but just sort of revisiting a whole topic based on 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: new experience. It was kind of a new thing. Yeah. Um, 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I originally intended that we would spend a little time 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: in that episode just kind of checking in because we've 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: gotten lots of questions from listeners about how we're each doing. Um. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: I feel like when we recorded that episode, at the 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: very beginning of the pandemic, I felt like I was in, 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, relatively good spirit. I'm very, very fortunate in 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I was already working at home. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I already had a home office that was a dedicated 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: working space. So a lot of adjustment that people had 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: to make in their working lives if their jobs allowed 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: them to work from home, Like I didn't have to 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: go through that adjustment period already had it, um, but 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: then the stretch of time I will just call it 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: from October to mid January that was not great. Um, Like, 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: there are a whole lot of people we would normally 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: see that time of the year who we did not 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: get to see. We had to cancel all of those trips. Uh, 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: that's when it gets a lot colder and darker in 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Massachusetts things. I'm a little partially, I think thanks to 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the fact that I was like, Okay, I gotta get 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: on this exercise bike because sitting here doing nothing is 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: making me feel bad in my body and soul. Right. Uh, 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like I have returned to a more 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: generally coping place, recognizing that I just I'm incredibly fortunate 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: to be able to be in a more relatively coping 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: place here at the tail end of February. I'm embarrassed 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: to say I'm great. Yeah, I still love being home 37 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: all time. Obviously I don't love all of the things 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: that played out last year, but in terms of my 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: personal life, yeah, this has been a delight. Here is 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I know everybody's experience of of being home, Like, everyone 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: has different stressors, right, Uh, Folks who are UM, you know, 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: maybe at home with small children and they're trying to 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: work while also trying to homeschool small children. Like that's 44 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: a whole level of stress. What's been weird for me. 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people have talked about how isolating it 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: is to have UM, you know, not as much contact 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: with other people. What's been weird to me is ever 48 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: being alone because that I love. I love my spouse, 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: he's great. UM. Before he and I got together, I 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: had been intentionally single for like seven years UM, and 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: being alone and independent was still really important to me. So, like, 52 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: for example, instead of having some kind of a bachelorette weekend, 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: I went to Maine by myself in February, And never 54 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: being alone has been weird. Yeah, I could see where 55 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: that would be tricky for you. I still feel like 56 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: there's a part of me that UM is self centered 57 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: enough to make everything about me. And I'm like, I 58 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: hexed the world by saying too many times I wish 59 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have to go to yeah, New York, l 60 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: A wherever, because I traveled so much for work and 61 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I could just be with you all the time. Yeah, 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: I wish was granted. So I'm sorry to the world. 63 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: This week there has been, you know, a tweet floating 64 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: around on Twitter that's like, what's the thing you did 65 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: in February that you think personally coust this? And it's 66 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff like people have had all kinds 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: of like random things were like I decided to sign 68 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: up for voice lessons, or uh I I decided to 69 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: for the first time start saving for a vacation, like 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of random decisions that people may and they're like, 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: that's how I feel, like I think the entire world. Yeah, 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: I just promised Mr Burns the Cat that I would 73 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: find a way to spend spend more time with him. 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, UM, working now that we're done with like 75 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: our updates about how we're doing working on these episodes, Wow, 76 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: was a frustrating experience, UM, in a different way than 77 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I Like I when I was making a list of 78 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: things that we were going to talk about, I was like, 79 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about mass we're gonna talk about ventilation, 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about pilates. UM. I didn't expect to 81 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: find so many things that felt like parallels in terms 82 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: of like a lack of prepared aridness and a lack 83 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: of cohesive plan and a lack of everybody being on 84 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: the same page about whether it was even a serious 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: thing that needed to be dealt with or not. UM 86 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and I kept being like, we we made the same 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: mistakes in nineteen eighteen, were we made them again. We 88 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: made them then, and we made them again. That's really frustrating. UM. 89 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: When the pandemic was first starting, I kept seeing mostly 90 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: historians and medical historians talking about UM exercising caution in 91 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: trying to look at the pandemic as like a forecast 92 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: of how COVID nineteen was going to go, because there 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: are very different social and economic factors in play, and 94 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the thread was about like how bad 95 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic was, with bad translating to how many people 96 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: died UM, and so one of the things that just 97 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: became so frustrating to me was just sort of a 98 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: lack of a sense that, like, the deaths are one 99 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: aspect of it, the the year long fear and chaos 100 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: and loss is like also a measure of how bad 101 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: the pandemic is. And man, we've done a lot of 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: the same things during COVID nineteen has happened in nineteen eighteen. Yes, 103 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I have my uncharitable takes on why but yeah, 104 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: um yeah, yeah, I mean it is it's it's frustrating 105 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: in a way. I understand it in some ways why 106 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: there is a perception of like, oh, but we know 107 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: better now, so we don't have to pay attention to that. 108 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: You know. I think for a lot of people, they're like, yes, 109 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: but that what happened then can't possibly apply to us now. 110 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: It was so long ago and people were much stupider um. 111 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: But that's one of the ways I did actually feel 112 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: like our earlier episode on the eighteen pandemic was like 113 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: not totally off the mark, because I remember talking in 114 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: that episode about like they thought they knew what we 115 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: were doing. We also think we are new knowing what 116 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: we are doing. This could happen again, you know. Yeah 117 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: seven years, six years later, uh, pandemic happening again? Here 118 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: we are here, we are said, I feel bad at 119 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: how much I have enjoyed. I mean, I I there 120 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: have certainly been people in my life. I have not 121 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: had any immediate people in my life past. I have 122 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: had friends of friends and family of friends passed, which 123 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: is heartbreaking. But I have so many things that were 124 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: on my list that I wanted to do that I'm 125 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: finally getting to like work through them. And yeah, it's 126 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: also been you know, I cannot recommend if you have 127 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: access to it in any way, this is a great 128 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: time to dig in on therapy. Um, yeah, take advantage 129 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: of this downtime. I mean I feel like, for me, 130 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I have more progress with my therapist when I am 131 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: not in a moment of crisis. Which is not to 132 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: say you should not be turning to it. When you 133 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: are in a moment of crisis, it can really help 134 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: get you through. But it's when I'm when I'm actually 135 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: in a pretty stable and fairly relaxed place. I mean, 136 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: there are always stressors in life, and like work, I 137 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: think for so many of us, has bled into every 138 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: hour of our lives, which can be tricky to manage. 139 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: But like it's when I'm not really like grappling with 140 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: some acute issue that I have some like revelation and 141 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh this is oh, now I see why 142 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I react to certain things in this way. Now I 143 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: can unpack that and like fix it and take a 144 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: better path going forward. So yeah, UM, like you, I 145 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: have been very fortunate and that Um, like my immediate 146 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: family has been okay. My closest friends have been okay. 147 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: The people I know who have who have gotten COVID 148 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: have eventually recovered, although some of them still have had 149 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: some long term health things, um like people from my 150 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: parents church and a former colleague of ours. Like people 151 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: I know who have died have been people a little 152 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: farther removed from my immediate circle. One of the things 153 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: that has been really hard is that so many people 154 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: in my life have been going through really big stuff, 155 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: both positive and negative, like people having their first baby, 156 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: or people being in serious cancer treatment. I mean any 157 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: cancer is serious, but like particularly dire cancer treatment, like 158 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: and not being able to be with them. Um in 159 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: some cases they're having to go through these things largely 160 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: by themselves because businesses are not a out at the hospital. 161 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: Has just been so hard to feel, um like helpless 162 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, to to really want to 163 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: be with somebody and support them and just not be 164 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: able to be with them and support them. Um. So 165 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: I know we've been saying this a lot, especially in 166 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: our Saturday classics, but like we so hope that people 167 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: are doing as well as they can be doing. I 168 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: know there's a lot that's hard to imagine doing well 169 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: at this moment in history, even you know, as as 170 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: headlines right now are about cases declining and sort of 171 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: a sense of very cautious optimism that maybe we are 172 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: turning a corner on the pandemic um still hearing from 173 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of folks at this moment has actually been 174 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot harder than previously when it was more seemingly acute. 175 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Right we are all grinding down a little bit. Like 176 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I I mean, I I definitely as much as I 177 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: like I'm great, there are definitely times where I'm just 178 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: like I would just love to run to target for 179 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: this one thing I need that's like a very minor thing. 180 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: But I think we are all experiencing a lot of 181 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: those in addition to the more emotionally heavy things, and 182 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: we don't always we tend to to dismiss them and 183 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm being silly, that's just a stupid convenience. 184 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: But all of those little things accumulate in the same grouping, 185 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: right You're still you're still getting the same pile up. 186 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Whether your stuff is is one of the little things 187 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: versus one of your larger issues, those things are still 188 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of combining together in a larger ongoing Uh, you know, 189 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: just never ending list of stuff where you realize kind 190 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: of Um, I know for me, Uh, it's like I 191 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: have these moments of insight and it's stupid because it's 192 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: obvious where I'm just like, our lives are so completely 193 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: different and I don't know how will ever recover. Yeah, Yeah, 194 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: I hope. I hope is not the right word. Um, 195 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know another word to say, Uh that 196 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: I hope that as we recover from the pandemic, we 197 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: are able to recover in a direction that is more 198 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: equitable for everyone, and that the kinds of horrific disparities 199 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: that have happened during the pandemic, that we will reach 200 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: a point as a society that like we we don't 201 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: have those And like, the reason I don't feel like 202 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: hope is the right word is because I've been working 203 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: on this podcast for however many years, eight years, Like 204 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: I've I've seen the patterns that we have gotten through 205 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: in society where we have not addressed the massive inequities 206 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: they're going on over and over. Um. But yeah, that's 207 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: I hope. I don't know, hope it still feels too optimistic, 208 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: but That's what I want as a society is is 209 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: for us to come out of this moment in a 210 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: way that is better and not as as a way 211 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: that's just back to the way that it was before. Right. 212 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying because saying you hope for it, 213 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: or maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I know for me, when 214 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: I say I hope for something like that, it seems 215 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: so distant and far that it seems like I'm denying 216 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: the reality that we're actually living in. Is that part 217 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: of what's going on psychologically for you, Like I'm somehow 218 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: being disrespectful of the legitimate awfulness that a lot of 219 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: people are surviving through. But I think you can acknowledge 220 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: that and still hope for better. Yeah, we want. We 221 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: know humans are capable of better. They just have to 222 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: do the work right, all of us, all of us, 223 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: all day, every day. But a lot of people already 224 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: do doing that work. And I don't want to give 225 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: that short short sight at all. No, no, our thanks 226 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: to everyone who is always trying to make the world 227 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: a better place. There are a lot of them out there. 228 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: Be those are the beacons of hope for me. M Yeah, 229 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: this has been a lot of food for thought as 230 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: we go through looking at how shockingly parallel some of 231 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: these things are. Yeah, you really could run some of 232 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: the headlines from this week's episode today and no one 233 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: would bat an eye last year think it was. Yeah. 234 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: There's a whole enormous archive called Influenza Encyclopedia that is 235 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: produced by the University of Michigan Center for the History 236 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: of Medicine UM and Michigan Publishing University of Michigan Library. 237 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I just read that off like the masthead of the 238 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: website UM that has scans and scans and scans of 239 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: articles and and uh and photos and all kinds of 240 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: stuff from the nineteen eighteen pandemic. UM. I don't feel 241 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: like I used it as a source in that earlier episode. 242 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: It did exist then, I think, UM, but I did 243 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time looking at it this time around, 244 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: and continually I was like, these headlines could be running today. UM. 245 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Like the the numbers of deaths at this moment are 246 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: not on the same scale, because even though we are 247 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: reaching the number of five hundred thousand deaths in the 248 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: United States, that number was sixty thousand in the nineteen 249 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: eighteen flu. But the population of the US as a 250 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: whole lower at that time. Um, but like beyond that, 251 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: like the day to day things that were happening in 252 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: headlines are having over now. I was like this could 253 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: be today. It's a bummer of a place to landa 254 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: So we'll just continue to hope that people are doing okay, 255 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: taking care of themselves in each other. Yeahs, as much 256 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: as folks are able, I know it can be really hard. 257 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: So if you'd like to send us uh an email 258 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: or history podcast that I heart radio dot com and 259 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: you can find a cell ab for social media. 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