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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. You are the um, the proverbial little old

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Speaker 1: Al I really do the the the electric starter came about,

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Speaker 1: Brandy wine, Maryland, Al, you get too for a nickel today? Um,

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Speaker 1: same fluid um and a lot of a lot of

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00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: these trans fluids. The base trans fluid is the same, Paul.

424
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: It's the it's the little additive package they put in

425
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: it to see you know here for example, Chrysler, I

426
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: know it is Chrystler seventy one seventy six, but it's

427
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Chrysler trans fluid Um. There's a there's another Chrysler part

428
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: number four. The difference between seventy one seventy six and DEX,

429
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: my understanding is seventy one seventy six has got a

430
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: higher anti foaming agent because Chrysler is worried about aeration

431
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: and and um foaming the fluid. So you know, at

432
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: that point in a transfer case, transfluids transfluid. It's not

433
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: going to change that much in the engine. I would

434
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: want to be sure that we're putting in the absolute

435
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: correct thing, so be a little fussier there. Um, okay, well,

436
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: say for the transfer case I can put pretty much

437
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: any deck mark blend, but for the transmission I should

438
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: get the mark on five correct. Do you have an

439
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: O'Reilly Ota parts by you? We do not know. I've

440
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: got the regular you know, auto zone advance and map. Okay,

441
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: if you get out to I I know O'Riley will

442
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: have the orilly Oto parts will have the correct fluid.

443
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: Maybe you could look them up online. But in any event,

444
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: you know clearly Motorcraft does make Mirk five. Like I said,

445
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: I walked past it every day at the shop. Okay,

446
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: are there any other any other manufacturers of the five? Um?

447
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, Pen's Oil might I'm not. I'm gonna say

448
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: Penn's Oil probably does with all with all honesty, because

449
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: I haven't have Motorcraft on the shelf, so I never

450
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: think to look there. But I'm sure you can get

451
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: out to. You know, if you go google pens Oil

452
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: whatever it is, pens Oil Synthetics dot Com and look

453
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: up on their website and see what they've got. You

454
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: know they I do know they make driveline flu they

455
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: make excellent drive line fluids. And to that point, I

456
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: don't think of Pen's oil. I'm guilty of it myself.

457
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't think of Penn's oil for you know it's oil. No,

458
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: they make excellent drive line fluids, to gear oil, transfluid,

459
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So by all means to take

460
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: a look at that, all right, sir? Yeah, And then

461
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: I got a couple others, a good brand for the

462
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: gear oil for the front and rear differentials. I know

463
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: they're different weights and viscosities, But should I be getting

464
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: like a Valveolene, a Pens oil or I would definitely

465
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: do a Pen's oil um Like like I said, they're there.

466
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: They're quality is second to none. There's a lot of

467
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: engineering that goes into their oils. Now, for the rear,

468
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna call. And it also depends on whether

469
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: or not it is a locker, whether it's a pose

470
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: or an open axle um. And then does it have

471
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: a trailer package. If it has a trailer package, I'm

472
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: trying to remember, is it with the trailer package and

473
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: regular weight for just a standard rear DIF with no

474
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: trailer package. So there's a couple of choices there, um

475
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: a book call yeah, um, because you have a trailer

476
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: hitch on yours right, correct? Um, that seems to be

477
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: the difference. And up front the front axle is probably

478
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: standard gear oil right And what I found it called

479
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: it said it was for a limited slip. Is that well,

480
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: that still work? I don't have a limited slip in

481
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: the front. No, yeah, that'll work. That limited slip is

482
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: an additive to help if there were clutches in the

483
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: rear axle. Um. With regard to the ability for the

484
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: clutches to slip and spin, take take both palms of

485
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: your hand and rotate them against each other. That's basically

486
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: how a pousy clutch works. If it has the right

487
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: amount of lubrication on it the clutches, eventually your hands

488
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: would bind and start to drag. The posy editive helps

489
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: keep them from overheating and bindings that they operate as ay.

490
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: They slip when they're supposed to, and then they locked

491
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: together when you're applying power to help drive both wheels,

492
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: so they work like a pousy. But again, i'll tell

493
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: you what you could. You could go out to pens

494
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: Oil Synthetics dot Com. Take a look at their website.

495
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: They'll be a contact US phone number and you can

496
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: call them up and they can actually make recommendations for

497
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: specific oils for that vehicle and you'll be you'll be

498
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: way ahead of the game. My last question pertains to

499
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: the front universal joints. I gotta put them in, but

500
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't have the capability to do it at home.

501
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: I need to take it in to work, take the

502
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: shaft into work to use the press and everything. Um,

503
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: is it okay to drive it without the front shaft

504
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: in it? Or should I not do that? Now? I

505
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. Yeah, you don't want to do that now,

506
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: depending upon what front axle you have. I'm trying to remember,

507
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: there's certain front axles where you need a special driver

508
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: tool to install the front seal. What is this? This

509
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: is an F fifty or a two fifty one fifties

510
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: this is the light duty axle, So then that shouldn't

511
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: man right the two fifties there was a special seal required,

512
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: or there's a special tool required to put the seal

513
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: in the front axle. When you pull the front axle

514
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: um if if you buy chance run into that, and

515
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't think you will. On the one fifty, keep

516
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: in mind a piece of a trip down to a

517
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: local home depot or hardware store and a piece of

518
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: plastic PVC pipe to the right diameter, cut the length

519
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: of work in a pinch um. When you see the seal,

520
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: you'll understand what I'm saying if you have that set up,

521
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: and it'll make sense to you. But you can do

522
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: that as well, all right, sir, Right, yeah, I'm familiar

523
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: with what you're referring to. I do. I do appreciate

524
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: you taking the time to talk to me. You're very welcome, Paul.

525
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: You have a good afternoon, sir, and I appreciate you

526
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: being a listener. Thank you you too, sir. Take your

527
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'll runing any of The Car Doctor eight

528
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: five zero zero we're back right after this. Hey, welcome

529
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: backing the end the car Doctor driving along this hour.

530
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Let's get over and talk to

531
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Anna Marie in Springville, Indiana. Cleave that is, and some

532
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: problems with an O H Chevy and Pala and Marie.

533
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Well?

534
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I bought this car in two and it was a

535
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: d M program car. Okay, had thirty two thousand miles

536
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: on and now it's got eight nine. Um, I can

537
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: drive it just like Uh. I go to Bedford to

538
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: be my shopping and it's only about thirteen fourteen miles

539
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: one way, and I can come back home. And I

540
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: always parked the car, put it in park and check

541
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: the motor off and maybe the next day I'll go

542
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: back out. I'm need to go somewhere and it's locked

543
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: in park and you can't get it out, and I

544
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: just have the office time getting it back out. Has

545
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: it been like is it in the transmission? That has

546
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: been like that? Since You've had a different times and

547
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: they just can't seem to find out what why it

548
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: does that, Anna Marie. Hasn't been like that since you

549
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: purchased the car? Just recently, Anna Marie, Anna Marie, can

550
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: you hear me? Yeah? Can you hear me? As it?

551
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Has it been like that since newer? Is it something

552
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: just recently that it started doing it? Is it? Can

553
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: you hear me now, Anna Marie? Anna Marie? Can you

554
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: hear me? Yeah? I guess so. Um so can you

555
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: let's see if you can let's try that. Um, has

556
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: the problem been there since newer? Is this something recent? Oh? No,

557
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: it's been ever since I'm on the car. Okay, let

558
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: me ask you when you parked the car? Is your

559
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: is your garage level? I don't park it in the garage? Okay?

560
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: Is where you park at level? Yeah? It's a level

561
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: parking spot. Do you set the parking break? Well? Sometimes

562
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: I use it? Okay, So when you set the parking break,

563
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: is it? Is it? What I'm trying to get to

564
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: is I'm wondering if the car is rolling slightly when

565
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: you put it in park, and then if you apply

566
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: the parking break, you've now effectively got the park finger

567
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: locked inside the transmission. So that's that's one thought. So

568
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, what I'd like for you to try is

569
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: when you go to park the car, when the car

570
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: is in drive, put the parking brake on, then put

571
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: it in park. That that way there's no chance of

572
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: the park mechanism being jammed inside the transmission. All right,

573
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two My second thought is is

574
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: there a problem with the shift interlock, meaning that you

575
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: have to step on the brake pedal to get it

576
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: to shift out of park? And I'm wondering if there's

577
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: a problem with either the brake pedal adjustment. I'm wondering

578
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: if your brake lights work properly all right, or if

579
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: there's a problem with the shift interlock. So what I'd

580
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: like you to try, and you want to do this

581
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: with the parking break on, all right? With the parking

582
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: break on, don't turn the key all the way on

583
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: to the turn it to the position before the dash

584
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: lights light up. You should be able to shift the

585
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: car into neutral, then start the car, then put it

586
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: in driver reverse. Remember the parking break is on. Don't

587
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: let that confuse you. What I'm trying to prove is

588
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: that mechanically the linkage is okay, that it's the shift

589
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: interlock device keeping you from getting it out of out

590
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: of park. So just remember that procedure, and you know,

591
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: if you want to go back and talk to your

592
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: mechanic and ask them how else can you get it

593
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: out of and could this be a shift interlock related problem?

594
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: And see what that does for you. I appreciate the

595
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: call zero zero the car doctors coming back to wrap

596
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: it up. Right after this, I got flock back on

597
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: naming the car doctor rolling around and rolling along and

598
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of winding it down for this hour five zero

599
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. So nobody answered my tribute question

600
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: this hour. Maybe I'll hold it till next hour. There's

601
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: another hour, car doctor, and coming up after the news

602
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: on most of these affiliates. In nineteen oh seven, Percy

603
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Douglas Hamilton's applied for a patent US number nine one

604
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: to eight three one for what device? And now I'm

605
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you. We're gonna hold that till next hour.

606
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, I looked up, I did cheat

607
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: and look up the conversation I had with al in

608
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: Maryland with regard to who invented the starter motor. I

609
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: was right it was Charles Kettering, but I was wrong.

610
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: It was nineteen eleven. I didn't realize they had done

611
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: it that early. Um, you know Cadillac and Charles Kettering

612
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: was part of a c del caton Dayton Engineering Laboratories. Um,

613
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: you know that's when all that started. But just some

614
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: really interesting stuff. Hey, real quick, there's a recall going on. Um,

615
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: National highway traffic has recalled uh something like from eleven

616
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: automakers clanged tank covers for gas tanks. Can you see

617
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: the amount of recalls that are going on. The automotive

618
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: industry will cover that a little bit bitter later on

619
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: in the next hour as well, but holy cow, everything's

620
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: getting recall. Nothing's made right. That's why they need ronomining

621
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: in the car doctor, reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive,

622
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see you