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Speaker 2: Nasty cool and nasty baby out the gates to my right,

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Speaker 1: How you what?

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Speaker 2: Chilling bro Hi bro huge fan of our guests, So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you do the honor.

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Speaker 1: So absolutely, man, we a privileged to be in the house.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We got a legend Hall of famer, one of the

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Speaker 2: best point guards to ever played basketball. If you don't

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Speaker 2: know who we're talking about, and listen, I don't give

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Speaker 2: too much credit to UK players, you know what I'm saying. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they ain't hoigh what But I gotta show some love

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Speaker 2: man Raison rondough Man, appreciate you pulling up to five twenty.

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Speaker 1: Actually, let us pull it up to you. Man. We

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Speaker 1: Wonderful man.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful man for sure. Like we said, man, we obviously

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Speaker 2: we know you went to the UK, but I be here.

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Speaker 2: He started off with the high school that's he loved

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Speaker 2: high school basketball. Before the episode started, he already started

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Speaker 1: Man, we ain't gonna play with it. Pause.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, like he was saying, like his classes, like damn,

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Speaker 3: the top five. We were just trying to pick out,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the all stars from Jeff class oh

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, all stars are to my top five players.

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Speaker 3: Let's just dot's let's give me your all star, give

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Speaker 1: What's that movie Jackie Moon? Now you called the trumpet court?

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Speaker 3: After that, it gets spooky in the All Star game, bro,

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Speaker 3: So give me a five.

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Speaker 4: Give me started the big fell in the middle, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Dwight Howard, Yes, sir, probably the best career. Josh Smith

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Speaker 4: shout out the smoke. That's our guy, alumni. Kyle still

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Speaker 1: We're going. We're gonna let DeAndre Rock at the five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you feel me, Texas and them along. Uh, he's

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Speaker 3: nine to eighty one. No forward, Oh yeah, y'all got

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Speaker 2: How many foules are gonna be calling that game? That's

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Speaker 3: Who win the game? Y'all got hella. I don't even

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Speaker 3: Guys ain't stiff, they ain't bro They can run the floor. Nigga,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, but he got to meet a lot of athletic

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Speaker 4: Blake Blake Garden to self, Dwight, I mean what you mean?

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Speaker 1: All right? Freaking I just told y'all though, put.

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Speaker 2: About now dja here bro man for sure, Man, obviously

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Man? If the if it was the

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Speaker 4: So I had a lot of you know a lot

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Speaker 2: How was that to see college basketball being so crazy,

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Speaker 4: We go so usual the word historic, But you can't

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Speaker 2: When the university starts history.

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Speaker 1: you know shout to Wake Wake historic. You would have

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Speaker 1: I think Jim played. I don't know if Tim Man

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Tim Duncan and cp AT make no funnel

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Speaker 1: How you feeling about the coach? Hire Man? And I

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Speaker 4: You know it's a familiar face, you know, proven champion

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Speaker 4: at it, you know what I mean's been I BYU.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people want going to understand

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Speaker 1: So that's be a problem.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy what they getting right now. Listen, I'll ask.

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Speaker 1: Moms. I mean you never know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I said we were McDonald's. We had three

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Speaker 1: How much money do you think you would have got

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Speaker 4: At the time when I first when I got to

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Speaker 4: think little Leland. He just got three fifty shouts of Leland.

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Speaker 1: It's like, damn, I got that up. I got that

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Speaker 2: I had to say some now, but I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 2: I woulda came out of high school, I probably would

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Speaker 2: probably would have got a million, but I probably got

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Speaker 4: Probably god, yeah he was too and they all touching

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Speaker 4: It was Jojo to guard Joe yep, Bradley. Oh but

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Speaker 4: I couldn't do that slow about the throwd in the post?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So what Joe was running off screens and ship he.

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Speaker 4: Lives pitting down. But we had to walk that thing

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Speaker 4: you know up tempo wasn't No. They showed me hit

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Speaker 4: me with that, that's all. I went to the portal,

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Speaker 4: showed me a dream.

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Speaker 1: What I got? I got to slow down? Man? What

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Speaker 1: am I doing? Yeah? Right? Yeah? Man? Did you get

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Speaker 1: to Lexington from a little So.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's the million dollar question, especially around the

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Speaker 4: city and people think, you know, Patina offered me my

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Speaker 4: junior or before I went to Okill and I actually

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Speaker 4: he brought my high SHU coach, Doug Bibi and my mom.

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Speaker 1: We set us down and offered me a scholarship.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one man.

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Speaker 4: They got I got what you want to talk about

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Speaker 3: Know he got he got Steve Smith? Yeah to go yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's another school.

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Speaker 1: It started from ride. Yeah, but maybe horng but he

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Speaker 4: When I was forty four, went to Spain, went to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, John d J. I speak how you though? Ye?

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Speaker 1: All right? What's up? Ben Simmons, Uh, Joe L and

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Speaker 1: Hell you're talking. I'm talking about yo. Your team Your

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Speaker 2: Mop anybody in the country all time, any class, No never,

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Speaker 2: Brian Johnson six ten at the on My Life they

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Speaker 1: Then we had listen, you put the three again, grew up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let me, let me, let me verify this way.

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Speaker 2: The highest quarter is a lot smaller. This is our press.

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Speaker 2: Josh Smith in the front. They shine right sixty nine

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Speaker 2: River Course, Silly fron case.

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Speaker 1: Rivers hit fifteen threes in the game. Yeah, I played

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Speaker 3: I remember your fifty five one game at ok I'm

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Speaker 1: That's will put me on the map that night, man,

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Speaker 1: he had to be mixed up.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen to ex big sir report Josh Smith got in

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Speaker 4: foul trouble next day.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 3: Stre No, I definitely I remember that. I remember watching

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Speaker 3: with like I said, Angela Russell, Ben Simmons and Joel you.

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Speaker 4: Got me said, I said five Though I named five players, Bro,

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Speaker 1: Three in high school. Ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Ben Simmons retards you put shooters around you, saying their

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Speaker 2: They didn't have shooters on the team defeated. We went undefeated,

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Speaker 2: We went over, we went over, out of over country,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We played everything we went to.

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Speaker 4: We went to New York and all that. We went everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Barcelona they traveled to. I know they travel, but I'm

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Speaker 4: saying with that particular year, we went forty four man

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Speaker 4: the greatest high school team of all listen, not even

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Speaker 2: So we got one against anybody, bro and we had dogs.

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Speaker 1: That that's.

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Speaker 3: No dogs though, bring up your fifty five point game

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Speaker 3: when you do these that, I'm telling you that is

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Speaker 3: He's better than any five that ever came through. Okill,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't ima argue that. But after that, not even close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again he's got to go against Brian Johnson,

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Speaker 2: day Shine.

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Speaker 4: Right, we don't know how we was gonna play. First

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Speaker 4: of all, I don't get the ball to the court.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, like you know, that's first, that's my dog

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Speaker 2: y'alla like d lo okay, smoke, not me, No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling y'all. We got day Shine, right.

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Speaker 2: That's six ' nine on top of the ball, bro,

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Speaker 2: Josh Smith. That's the other guy that you got to

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Speaker 2: make a pass over or try to dribble through. And

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Speaker 2: these niggas ain't no step Again in the court is

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Speaker 2: a high school court.

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Speaker 1: We ain't talking about no league court orders.

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Speaker 2: There's spacing opportunity six nine, sixteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: In the front court. Y'all got embiid that's all you said?

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Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, he's six seven teen. I've been Simmons like

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Speaker 2: six nine sixteen. Okay, again, dogs on my team.

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Speaker 1: He's just hurt right now. He's just hurt. He used

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Speaker 1: to be a dog. You will soon, man, what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, what we I know, we got. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back to the sure. Obviously we don't like this.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. This high school knowledge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love fifty five. You know about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you, my nigga, bro appreciated. So obviously we know

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Speaker 2: you went crazy in college. And then obviously how was

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Speaker 2: your draft process?

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Speaker 1: I got, I got, I was on I was on

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Speaker 1: at leash in college. Man, for you, he used to

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Speaker 1: wear a T shirt and T shirt. That was inspired

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Speaker 2: Delonte. We used to wear one at Saint Joe's. He

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Speaker 2: used to wear one of Kentucky. I'm like, oh, that's

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, before we moved to the

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Speaker 3: Olm and Cozy, why did you stay three years?

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Speaker 1: Then too too?

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Speaker 4: I mean who I had ton We can't go. First

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Speaker 4: of all, at that time, my college career or experience

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Speaker 4: was crazy because I told we talked about earlier. I

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Speaker 4: had fourteen guys go out straight out of the league,

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Speaker 2: So my like, I'm behind. So I'm in school and

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Speaker 2: I'm getting to it. I ain't going i ain't partying,

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Speaker 2: I ain't going out, I ain't doing a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: so I don't have time to do the other bullshit.

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Speaker 2: That's my brother Josh Smith. We going to Atlanta. He

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Speaker 2: give me bread, you know, I mean go to the

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Speaker 2: strict club.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm behind, Like I got it, this is

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Speaker 4: I was right to it. So it wasn't a I

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Speaker 4: got to where I wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to play my game and play with

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Speaker 4: I stayed down and continue to work. So I still

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Speaker 4: in the sixteen maybe Ben thirty two. I got right

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Speaker 4: out of there. Tubby's like, let me talk to him, Like,

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Speaker 4: let me talk to you, appreciate it. I'm out here,

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Speaker 4: let me go.

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Speaker 1: So I went. Now, I gotta be a different experience.

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Speaker 2: I had like one of your best friends to be

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Speaker 2: in the NBA at that age, because I was like,

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Speaker 2: I grew up with a guy named Courtney Lee.

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Speaker 1: Lee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah see Lee having no range Rover and all this shit.

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Speaker 2: When I was in college. I'm like, hell NOA I

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Speaker 2: got to make to the league. Now, Eric he from

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Speaker 2: the same area I'm from, and George Hill is too,

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Speaker 2: And to see them come back to the city was like, Nah,

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Speaker 2: I can't be out here. Everybody talking about hoops. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not in the league, and then you got Greg and.

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Speaker 1: Mike obviously that was our picks. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, nah, I gotta do something, so I

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Speaker 2: know how you feel to get to it when you

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Speaker 2: why that's when I come back to the city and

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Speaker 2: do what I do. You know, I mean it's not

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Speaker 2: to bring about when I guy, it's like, man, look

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Speaker 2: if I did it, niggas, it's possible. That's all I

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Speaker 2: do is you just get to it, bro especially with

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Speaker 2: both of y'all giving back to your communities obviously with

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Speaker 2: you coaching the Pike and then obviously what you do

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Speaker 2: with your you team, like you inspired, Like I'm visible,

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Speaker 2: I can show you I'm from here.

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Speaker 1: Just like you. You can do this too and meet

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Speaker 2: You see what like Cam Newton, he went through that

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Speaker 2: screw with the little stuff with the kids and adults

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Speaker 2: actually stupid, but to have that type of influence in

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Speaker 2: do this and think it's something it's very important. I

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Speaker 2: come in both of y'all for doing that ship because

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Speaker 2: that's real and y'all get more of a headache than

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Speaker 2: you get from it.

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Speaker 1: But it's still, Yeah, it shows it's a blessing. I'm

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Speaker 1: very blessed.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, you know it is at times, but

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Speaker 4: you know we're built for this, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So it's what We're in this position for a reason.

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Speaker 2: But it's seemed good though. The son nice. They got

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Speaker 2: a big comfory in the paint. I'm like, bron get

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Speaker 2: his birthtificate.

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Speaker 1: Then it was beating up legit. We ain't got to

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Speaker 1: do none of that. We's gonna work. We ain't got

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Speaker 1: cheat the game morning perspected. I said, no, Joel and

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Speaker 1: be birth certificates.

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Speaker 2: They tell him, they tell me my son thirteen forty.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why do I need to hold my son back?

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Speaker 1: Or there?

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Speaker 2: He played multiple sports like it. He ain't got to

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Speaker 2: make it. He got a how to count this money,

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Speaker 2: that's it. He ain't got to know how to mean.

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Speaker 2: He ain't got no pressure on him. If you want

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Speaker 2: to play it, let's do it. If not, whatever you

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Speaker 2: want to do with the support. But he's nice though.

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Speaker 3: He nice talking about the worst part of that ship

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Speaker 1: That's the whole.

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Speaker 2: Jamal property on the head a couple month, couple minute,

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Speaker 1: Fact, it's really it's the parents, man.

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Speaker 4: But you know there, I've had a lot of kids

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Speaker 4: I had to let go, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: and great kids, it's just you know, damn, they're more

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Speaker 4: likely it's the fathers that think their kids and where

440
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 4: they need to be versus where they should be versus

441
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 4: this hold them accountable, you know what I mean. That's

442
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 4: my main thing. That's what we appreciate. My program is

443
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna, We're gonna check ass. But the thing about it,

444
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 4: what I love about it is that we watch every game.

445
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,679
Speaker 4: So it's like when your parents or your parents come

446
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 4: to us, like my nigga, I don't watch more tape

447
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 4: on your son, and you watch on them and I'm

448
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 4: here trying to put my time and effort into him,

449
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 4: and you're upset about blocked by X, Y and Z.

450
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 4: You bring on to my team for a reason, you

451
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Humble as I can say, it's

452
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 4: like my nigga, I'm I'm more than one, so sir,

453
00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,959
Speaker 4: understand what I'm giving to him.

454
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 1: I ain't it ain't no. I don't get nothing of this.

455
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm not an AU coach is trying to, you know,

456
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 4: piggyback the kid for the next six years to get

457
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 4: some bread out of my nigga.

458
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 1: This is all love right. In fact, you different though

459
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: you watch AU film. At least the kids that list mamas,

460
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: we lost that too.

461
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 2: We played at court eight five, Get your Mama twenty.

462
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 2: I ain't giving none of y'all no money. I said, yeah,

463
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 2: court man, I.

464
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 4: Just hope one day they realized like I said, ain't

465
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 4: none that. As soon as two o'clock game over, we

466
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 4: we got fruit for the kids were back to we

467
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 4: in the sprinting and were watching film for like thirty

468
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: minutes because again their chitch span and we're gonna go

469
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 4: back to the next game and lock in and focus

470
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 4: and try not to make those same mistakes.

471
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: Nah, you you different, bro.

472
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: Everybody here that they need to come play for you,

473
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: because that's different. That's no run it like you for me,

474
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 2: play high school.

475
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: For me, don't play you. I run it like a pro.

476
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 1: I try to run like a pro program. Now that's dope.

477
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 1: That's dope. Whatever we went through is like I tried

478
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: to get him don't get there day early when I

479
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 1: shoot around. Yeah yeah.

480
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: When you said that, I'm like I hear it, Like, man,

481
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: let me you got to jump on me up.

482
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: Now that's working, bro.

483
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 2: I was like, you're about the practice when I play you.

484
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 2: We never practiced. I had one practice. That's when we

485
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: met everybody, right, I swear that's how it is. Yet

486
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 2: that's where everybody came together. We met at the place.

487
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: But that's the thing we were talking about.

488
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 4: Is like nowadays kids also hop just like college is

489
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 4: allowed now, but even probably before the nil became a

490
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: deal or transferred portal. But it's like kids hot versus

491
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 4: like if you want to play for a program, play

492
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 4: for that program and learn from that program. Like it's

493
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 4: not about these kids nowadays, like oh, let me get

494
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: a highlight tape for this program. Let me get a

495
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 4: high tape with this, let me get the most clicks

496
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 4: of like the nigga. You ain't developing, Like it's about developing.

497
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 4: Y'all want to worry about being number one team ranking,

498
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: Like how good is your son? And I see a

499
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 4: lot of I had a real conversation with the kids

500
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 4: maybe about a month ago my team. I was like,

501
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 4: man a lot of the niggas ain't got no better

502
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: than last year. So it's like, I'm gonna keep it

503
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 4: the buck with you cause I can bring it. I

504
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 4: can pull out film from las year because I've been

505
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 4: doing this for three years now.

506
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: And my year one.

507
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: Team trash Boy, we got picked on, bullied.

508
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, we got hitting them out

509
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: for a couple of times, but we had to see

510
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 4: what was out there. We had to get asked out

511
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 4: there in the fire. My son was a part of it,

512
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: and I hated to see that nigga loose. So I

513
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: was like, shit, let me let me plug build, okay,

514
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: develop and put players around them that you know what

515
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 4: I mean with. So that's been the motivation. That's been,

516
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, the mission for so far.

517
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: You got to be a college coach or NBA coach man,

518
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: something gotta happen, bro.

519
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: I want to.

520
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 4: But obviously where I'm at in life now, that's why

521
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: I kind of be on the paul. You know, I

522
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: got a teenage daughter. She just got her lights and

523
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 4: place yesterday, so she on the road man. So I'm

524
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 4: you know, ship like that going on in school now,

525
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 4: I'm aboy to finish my degree hopefully next spring twenty

526
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: twenty five, and then I'm ready to go into that level.

527
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 4: But like I said, right now, obviously kid focused getting

528
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 4: my degree, continue to challenge myself, learn more and more

529
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: daily things. And actually I appreciate being in college now

530
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: than I did obviously when I was just locked in

531
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 4: trying to get to leave.

532
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: Who your son reminds you of? Though?

533
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: If you had a pinpoint in this game right now?

534
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: Me facts because I ain't got to check him out.

535
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: I used to be on my scout ship. I ain't

536
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: tapped in.

537
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: When you know, when somebody got the eye, yeah he

538
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: making passes. I'm like, he got the eye, Yeah he

539
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: got the I'm on his ass, bro.

540
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 4: But he's uh, he's just special and uh he wanted

541
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, earl. He got his ass

542
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: up this morning, went down, got on the gun seven

543
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: in the morning. Like I said, I'm proud and thankful

544
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 4: to my kids are extremely disciplined. I know, I got

545
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 4: up five o'clock this morning, went went to individuals this morning.

546
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: I mean, my son got to put us on the

547
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 4: seven A m came down stair and got some shots up.

548
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: It's like, you know what I mean, what they've instilled

549
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 4: in them, is like it's a beautiful thing. And it's like,

550
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't take that for granted, you know what I mean? Yeah,

551
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 4: for sure, Yeah, that this one definitely need up. Like

552
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 4: we said, man, when crazy now is draft something? How

553
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: was your draft process? Obviously you know what I'm saying.

554
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: He was trying to get free from Kentucky. Daddy ain't

555
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: show you go crazy over sea? Yeah, so I had to.

556
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 4: Actually I had two workouts with with Boston, but I

557
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: was I was in the back of the board, you

558
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like I was, I was trying

559
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 4: to line everybody up. Okay, who's here in front of me? Okay,

560
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: let me line him up. He where he going? He

561
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: going to Philly? Put me on the put me on

562
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: a plane. So that was my mindset. I always wanted

563
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: to go kill and see where I was at, play

564
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: against the best, and make them make a decision based

565
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: on what I was doing versus like what y'all see

566
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: in the Kentucky game. Who I am, Like, let me

567
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: show you this dog. I'm sure this motherfucker's gonna play

568
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 4: a hundred every possession. Like, So that's what I showed

569
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: Boston and they moved up and got me the twenty

570
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 4: first pitch, which first picture pick, which felt like three hours.

571
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 4: I was sitting at my board. I said, damn, I

572
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: ever gonna get picked them. The crazy thing is the

573
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 4: twenty pick was Ronaldo Balkman. So I heard that run,

574
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 4: I was like, what, oh sh nigga, yeah, nigga.

575
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Philly called me the day before told me they gonna

576
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: pick me at seventeen and then they said.

577
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 1: Drew, what Shree Holiday? Who is that? Like?

578
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: No disrespect Drew. Actually that's my guy, But I didn't know.

579
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, you Holiday, you're a freshman at you see it? Like,

580
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: well you ever look it up?

581
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: Right? Right? Five ship Drew?

582
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: Hall of Famers potential, Yeah right right, good choice, but

583
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: you would end up being on part of one of

584
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: the craziest, most successful franchise, one of the craziest teams ever.

585
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and y'all all was cold, all Hall of Famers.

586
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: How was that experience of being in Boston, being with

587
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: being with the team, Like obviously you earned your stripes

588
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: early and they trusted you.

589
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: How was that process? Man? It was hard? I mean

590
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: it was it was tough.

591
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: Again, people don't know, like my Brookie year I wanted

592
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: to get traded, almost calling my agent, call my high coach, man,

593
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 4: give me the funk out of here, like this ain't there.

594
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 4: I feel like I was doing what I had to

595
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: do in practice. Shout out to Basst. It was, you

596
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: know that's my dog, Like I said, ain't know. We

597
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: were competing. Like I said, at that time, I felt

598
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: like I was getting the.

599
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: Best of them.

600
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: So I wanted to play. And we lost eighteen straight

601
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: that year. So I'm like, God, damn, like, you know,

602
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 4: shake something up, do something different. He never really did.

603
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: Like I said. Doc told me some things that didn't

604
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: you know, come to light, and I was like, damn, like,

605
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: get me out here. So I stayed down again. Kareem

606
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: rise at the top. I kept working that summer. I

607
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: at the crib my mom's house, and I see my

608
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: name on the on the TV. It's like seven names

609
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: on the bitch. We're going to Minnesota. I'm like, oh, yes,

610
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: get me out here. But I'm like, damn Minnesota. Ah,

611
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 4: but whatever whatever.

612
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: Now I get to play, right, so I you know,

613
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: I see it. Whatever they go by. Denny called me like,

614
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: you ain't going nowhere? Okay, cool? Whatever? Going to find

615
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: out kg.

616
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: He said what he said, let me lock in and

617
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: stay home at the Crib Boston at the time. So

618
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: the following year, like we want, we lost eighteen the

619
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: first year. Next year we obviously win a championship. So

620
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: that transition itself was a blessing in disguise because again

621
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: I'm fighting to get out, but the lawyer had a

622
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: better plan for me. Obviously, just go through adversity, handle

623
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 4: this ship, and then now I prepared you for the

624
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 4: next year, which was the doll the pressure between me

625
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: and Perk.

626
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: You know, they had two guys that's.

627
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 4: Not proving you know, no name guys that can't do this.

628
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 4: They can't do that playing with three Hall of famers.

629
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 4: So for me, it was just my mindset and when

630
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: the people I had around me like, you know, I

631
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 4: have a strong mindset to think like I am who

632
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: I am. I had to prove it. But again it

633
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: had to show through work, and I was in the

634
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: bitch every day in the weight room. I learned to

635
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 4: work in the weight room from Kevin. He worked every

636
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: day and I'm like, now you always in some motherfucker

637
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: like But again to play longevity to get through that

638
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: season without hitting the wall, or to get through, you know,

639
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: playing through injuries, continue to have your body, maintain your body,

640
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: have a strong core from jump upbringing lord extremity. So

641
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: for me just learn that this from them guys. I

642
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: would come in the gym at night thinking I'm doing

643
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: something by myself. Upstairs is Paul Peris on the Treadmill

644
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: reality show up Game Days at three o'clock getting shot

645
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: at before you know what I mean. So it's like

646
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 4: I got, I got a mix of all that, and

647
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm taking everything. Give me that. Let me get that.

648
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm a sponge. So and I'm adding to what I

649
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: love to do. Now I'm getting my pre game routine.

650
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: Now I'm figuring out what I like to because at

651
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: first I was come the league. I was even big

652
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: max full games. I'm going across street, you know, number two,

653
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: number one in McDonald's fries, thinking I can do it all.

654
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: But I was like, young fella, got slow down. So

655
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: tell you what you was on. I went to the mall.

656
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: What's that that bourbon bourbon chicken, every city bourbon chicken meat.

657
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: I was on a budget too. I was going crazy

658
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: on that burbon chicken. Hiven that budget It's.

659
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 4: Crazy, man, It was broke. Bro gotta gotta manage. That's

660
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 4: the problem now a lot of us, maybe not now

661
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: because of the money they getting. But it's like when

662
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: I first came to the league, them classes with teachers, man,

663
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: it was eighty five cent of us going broke after

664
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: six years.

665
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Crazy. So I was like, damn, I cannot be a statistic.

666
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: That's real.

667
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: I think they're doing a better job, like being acknowledge

668
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: of financial literacy now in the bag.

669
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: In the bag I was talking about you. I think

670
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm signed.

671
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: I seen somebody sign for four year forty and we

672
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: thought that was crazy. Like listen, I think it was

673
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: Chauncey because back my I wanted my deal, like I

674
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: think Tony Park was getting like eleven and twelve at

675
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: the time.

676
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I was like, man, give me eleven.

677
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm cool. I signed five fifty five. Sadden like, man,

678
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: this is like you know, I mean, like I'm from

679
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: when you got it.

680
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, fifty five. Remember d Rose got eighty.

681
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that's what I'm saying. So that was

682
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: eighty is like that's the birst.

683
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: He after three points.

684
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: But I seen my I love payting Pritchard, but he

685
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: got four year thirty two off the bench. I'm like, damn,

686
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: that was like I got that was starting playing my hardest.

687
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, all star like numbers you're getting,

688
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: you all, this is what you're getting. I'm like, man,

689
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: it's a blessing for them though, for sure, for sure,

690
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: but for you to be the PG to run the team,

691
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: Like how was that? To deal with all the personality

692
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: because they was all successful, they were right.

693
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: It was fun man, it was funny.

694
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: The KG man he was, you know, he helped me

695
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: a lot, like I said, help me accountable from when

696
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: I was doing the right thing and when I wasn't.

697
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: So you me and Pete tight as ever now, you

698
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like we clashed a lot, like

699
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: I said, he was he was a captain, you know

700
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 4: what I mean. And for me being able to run

701
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: it through Doc. Learning from Doc, they brought in Sam

702
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: could Sale which helped me a lot on my hill.

703
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: I had great guys around me. It helped me like

704
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: manage the guys, learn how to you know, manipulate the game,

705
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: make sure everybody's cool. But Kevin was the one that

706
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: sacrificed most. That's why I say shot to Kevin because

707
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, he obviously still won his shots. Ray wanted

708
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: his shots, but Kevin, when he won, that motherfucker'd be like, hey,

709
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: bring that motherfucker down here. And then there was you know,

710
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: it was time. But for the most part, he was

711
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: a willing pick setter. You know what I mean, you

712
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: understood this role.

713
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: He was a star in his role, which he was

714
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: a superstar, but it's you know, people understand like he

715
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: was a star in his role. He was gonna pick

716
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 2: up ninety four feet with me. He was gonna talk

717
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: the most on defense. He's gonna lay the motherfucker down

718
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: if he needed to, elbow wise, he's gonna talk shit,

719
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: get the ten going. So his mindset, he didn't talk

720
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: to nobody before games that Nigga was locked in every time.

721
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: I remember one time my rookie year, we in Rome,

722
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: my second year, we in Rome and he's going through

723
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: in layup line.

724
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Man, Nigga bumped shot at me one time.

725
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck, didn't look at me, didn't

726
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: break a sweat and kept it locked and I'm like

727
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: this Nigga is for real. Like but he was just

728
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: it was his mindset before the game, like it was.

729
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: It was him against everybody, and not necessarily he bought

730
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: me on purpose. I'm saying his like his mindset. He

731
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: did ritual every game. He never shot before the games,

732
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: Like he never came out at four o'clock or sixteen

733
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: minutes on the clock his shoot. When he shot, he

734
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: would grab one or two rookies and make the ass shoot.

735
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: Every time he did the rebound, we out, there's the

736
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 4: team twenty minutes on o'clock. He get to He get

737
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: to his four spots every time. Every day in practice,

738
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: You're gonna do the same thing every day after practice.

739
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: Like so I was like, okay getting him. I think

740
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: him and Brown was the most disciplined players I've ever

741
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: played with. M Daily Great Daily, Yeah, why do you

742
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: bark at.

743
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Me in the game? Bro? For me? No, kg oh Man,

744
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: that's him man, Like, I mean, get all four and.

745
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: Bro, Bro, we got the clip man, please finally clip Man.

746
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: That was crazy.

747
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what That's what I loved about him,

748
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: And like that motherfucker you would love to go to

749
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: war with him. I think people compare him a sense

750
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: of kind of like a Joe King or you hate

751
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: to play against some motherfucker when you get, you get

752
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: him on the team, is like, he's your favorite team

753
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: at of all time.

754
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: So that's my little brother.

755
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: But I had a question. I was going, well, I

756
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: want to talk basketball for real. Like we had a

757
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: clip with me and Jordan Crawford was talking about Avery

758
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: Bradley and I remember y'all too a start in the

759
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: back court at one point. You two niggas playing defense.

760
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: That's the most wild shit.

761
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: I used to be like, hey, man, look that love

762
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 1: young nigga shot. That's my little bro a b man.

763
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: That nigga inspired me, bro, because when he got there,

764
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: it's like I didn't have to be that guy that

765
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: picked up ninety forty. More so, I was like, you know,

766
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, good looks you fell. And

767
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: the way he did it, they practice, Man, the nigga

768
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: was intimidating. He was dominating, like and he would every

769
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: time you get a nigga, he'd be like, yes, that's

770
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: what he's on my list.

771
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: Though.

772
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: I got him getting ashed, I got him, add him,

773
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: Jimin Nelson got him. I'm like, and I'm in the

774
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: game watching niggas. Do not want to put the bitch

775
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: on the ground in front of him, Like niggas throwing

776
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: that motherfucker anything like, Man, I don't give a funk

777
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: who get this ball.

778
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be me getting embarrassed because as a PG,

779
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: you can't get ripped ninety four feet runs in the basket.

780
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: Like I mean, you just at half court. That's one

781
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: of the most brass works to me. It's worse to

782
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: getting equivalent and getting dunked on, like the getting picked at.

783
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Especially in the league.

784
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Man, but they was guarding and he's in the playoffs

785
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: against him, and he was like, let's get these niggas.

786
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Man, that's my love.

787
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's exactly what it was. That's the mindset.

788
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: Like I said, he was always with it. That's why

789
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: another one of my favorite back court makes was yourew Holliday.

790
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Man.

791
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: We played that series against Poland and niggas Like, Man,

792
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: it was either it was either Poiland or it was Houston.

793
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know me, I'm let's get Houston.

794
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: He's like, let's get poored.

795
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: I'm like a nigga whoever like And it was that mindset,

796
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: having a running mate with you besides you like that.

797
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: It's like when I'm ready to go to the ward.

798
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: Any time, any time of the day, defenders right there,

799
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: and I'm cool with switching with him. And I'm okay,

800
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: So if I got a guy like a d Rolls,

801
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: if I got to Chase to Steph, I'm not comfortable

802
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: to switch with everybody. But Avery Browley Drew hot Day,

803
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool, they understand that I'm on, shut

804
00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: this nigga down.

805
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna jump around.

806
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: But we got to talk about that Pelican team, in

807
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: which I did say trail blas a shame. I was like,

808
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: that's one of the few teams and you you've been

809
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: to callus for a lot of great playoffros. That was

810
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: his game plan.

811
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I seen him.

812
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: I was watching the guy. I said, he made this

813
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: game plan. He's coaching this.

814
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 4: I promised, shout out to gentry man you coached that

815
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 4: that man, I shout out the gentries.

816
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: He coached that.

817
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: He allowed me. I think you know, I think you

818
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: know people.

819
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: I'm thankful for people that coach that allowed me to

820
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: coach when I play, you know me, because I said

821
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 4: they had had to earn that respect. Because again that

822
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 4: year in particular, man, y'all forget we had the Marcus

823
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: Cousin on that team.

824
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: We didn't forget so my thing when he towards a

825
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: C because before that.

826
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't in rotation like that because it wasn't enough

827
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: basketlall as it was Drew a D cuz I really

828
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: didn't fit in because I needed a ball too.

829
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: So once Cousin went down, he was she was starting

830
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: to master the game too. Man, that's me. I was

831
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a bed at the time. It wouldn't really an ego thing.

832
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 4: It was like, man, if I could see my young boys,

833
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: which was Cousin a D and I said, one of

834
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 4: my favorite team boys, Drew go crazy. I was trying

835
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: to teach cause how many play the game because at

836
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: first Cousin eighty with both trounds.

837
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Score fifty.

838
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, cuz that eighty, get to fifty, you

839
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: get twenty, twenty and ten and now we all can

840
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 4: still eat, Yes, sir. And at the time, if you

841
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: look at up, I think Cousins starting average a couple

842
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: triple doubles. At the time he was going got hurt

843
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 4: against Golden State, a kill lee, shit happened whatever. I

844
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: don't know who what might have been going to say

845
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: Popper's Achilles and then they inserted me and I was like,

846
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: all right, get into it. Okay, I got eighty as

847
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: a webinar.

848
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: I got. I had Nico, uh, Nico, what's my man?

849
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: Marriages? Yeah, that big he was my shooter. And I

850
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: had Drew. I had a eat one more.

851
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: I mean I had to have some well, so I

852
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: mean I had I felt like I had I was

853
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: able to have a team where I had weapons.

854
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I can beat you four time before

855
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: you beat me four times. That's that was my That

856
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: was always how I played and thought the game.

857
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't even saying it because you're hearing, and

858
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: I sort of got. I thought you'all was going to

859
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: the finals now you always but I always appreciated.

860
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: The only reason I believe that we didn't, man, is

861
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: because one we didn't have Cuz because when we were

862
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: gonna going against Golden State, we needed that enforcer and

863
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: we needed somebody to.

864
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Check Draymon.

865
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: I mean I wanted Ad to first play the game,

866
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: hit Drama on the chest, set the tone different, bro,

867
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it had to set

868
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: the tone. I think Draymond hit first against a d

869
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: and again we obviously we lost that series. We were

870
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: able to get one. Like people obviously had us swept

871
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: by the way we did Portland niggas had to start

872
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: looking like, oh, okay, what the fuck they got going.

873
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Over here in New Orleans.

874
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: So Gentry was coaching in Flynn, Minnesota coaches the office

875
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 4: of coordinator.

876
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so so he know how to work with

877
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: two big Yeah. So now it was because we had

878
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: a stretch forward. We had damn you know, Nico, he

879
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: was stretching the bitch out you, I mean where Nurkic

880
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: couldn't get there. Yeah, but now it makes sense how

881
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: he plays in Minnesota, cat being a stretch for Rudy.

882
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Now I didn't even know that that makes sense now.

883
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: And then another crazy playoff team you had. We ain't

884
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: eve gonna talk about the chests first, but come on,

885
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: the bull situation, dog, that's another one of them.

886
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: You don't know.

887
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me tell you a little bit of history

888
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: of that though. Man, that was that was a year

889
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: I had the biggest contract. So I'm I'm in Chicago.

890
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: I'm uh, like I said, in downtown, it was a

891
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: great experience. Like I said, we're in there playing for

892
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan where you played in Chicago. Like I said,

893
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: I'm only I think it's a close distance from the

894
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: crib that I was at. So I would get off

895
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: for planes it two in the morning, drive home and

896
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: try to take my kids school and drive back like

897
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: it was. I was able to do shit like that.

898
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: So that particular year, though, them niggas fucked me. I

899
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: mean they benched me, uh for a long period of time.

900
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

901
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 4: They brought a couple of players, like, you know, you

902
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: ain't the man. You're not giving what's what we needed.

903
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 4: I'm like my nigga, like I'm hanks, I'm handcuffed. I

904
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: got y'all keep giving Jimmy the ball and giving the

905
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 4: wait the ball, but you'll know I need the ball

906
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: and I'm the point. So let me manipulate and do

907
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: what I do with the ball I'm getting. I'm a

908
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 4: uns play. I'm give the ball and trying to get

909
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: thirty nigga like they will get the ball when I

910
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: feel need the time to put them in the best

911
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: position to be great, make it easier for him man.

912
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: Them niggas benched me for a couple of months.

913
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: So yep, for me.

914
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: Remember again, Cannon was playing Isaiah Cannon Cameron Payne, Michael Carter, William,

915
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: Jared Grant. They tried everybody so and I said, this

916
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: is all my young niggas. I love them all, you

917
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: know I mean, but you know me, it's like my

918
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: nig y'all brought me here. I'm y'all paying me the

919
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: highs of it been paid. It's supposed to be. I

920
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 4: ain't trying to be a big three. But y'all got

921
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: d Waight and Jimmy, but you got me. It's the

922
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: mace roller to orchestrate this ship. Okay, cool, let's get

923
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: it's j'all.

924
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: Y'all. Y'all brought me in. Said, y'all want me to

925
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: run the show again.

926
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: I've been brought in a couple times where niggas like

927
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: we want you to do this, and when I do it,

928
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 4: it's like, oh shit, he's doing too much or he's

929
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: he's wild.

930
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: And now, nigga, y'all told me this is what I do.

931
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: So that year I get bench again, I'm like, man,

932
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: this is wow ship what I do. I went to

933
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: I went to damn near every hood in Chicago in

934
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: a sense and play runs called one fifty shout out

935
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 4: to everybody.

936
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: They kept me in.

937
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: Shape, they go to they played one fifty Yeah, and

938
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: that was I was able to keep my head, keep

939
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: a cool head because I was still playing the game

940
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: I love.

941
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: I was still able to say in shape.

942
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 4: And then when I was obviously when I would saying

943
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: the Kreean raster the top, when I got an opportunity

944
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: again it was playoff time, yes, sir, so on my mind,

945
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: I'm like ship, I'm ready to fuck these niggas up.

946
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: And again we were the eighth seed. We got nothing

947
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: to lose.

948
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: And that and I'm back at the crib and they

949
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: you know, Isaiah Thomas is going crazy. M hm, you

950
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: know they got to help a squad at number one

951
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: in the East. Man, I figured, okay, cool, let me

952
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: so Game one were in the lobby. We had our

953
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 4: team meeting, so I told Jimmy and d Wade to

954
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: stay back. Let's be walked through a play with y'all.

955
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: Because again Brad ain't ready for this shit. In the

956
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, was able.

957
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: To maniplate the game.

958
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 4: That way, we obviously get Game one, same thing we

959
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: did Game two. Now at this time, people bought into

960
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: what I was telling. At first, niggas were really trying

961
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 4: to hear what I was saying that by that time again,

962
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: Negg was like, Okay, let me what are you talking about.

963
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do that, and that's what we did. Then

964
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: we went.

965
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: Then we win both games by both games. Then I

966
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: reached on Al Horford broke my thumb.

967
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm out.

968
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm trying to play that. Like now it's you got

969
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: a chield. So, like I said, another blessing from above,

970
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: the Niggas lose four straight, just like, come on, man,

971
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: the crazy thing about it. So we we went to

972
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: on the roll. We come back to the crib. It's

973
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 4: supposed to be crazy. Back in Chicago when that game three,

974
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 4: it was like this the crowd damn, Like I'm thinking

975
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 4: this going to be crazy. Like when we we number

976
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: a c we done won two games that nobody in

977
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: the world expected, sun up all the bets. If it

978
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: was heavy betting back then out of out of I

979
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: would hit we would hit a lick John t right.

980
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: Like I got like who who taught you how to

981
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: play the game? Because the way you think the game,

982
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy. Bro. Like you hear like Kobe

983
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: and Lebron talk about like your i Q about the

984
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: game and stuff.

985
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: Like that, like as a hooper.

986
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: When I see stuff you was doing on the court,

987
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: we will play you and you will have a bus.

988
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: This nigga, I don't know Pauls, but nigga hands big

989
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: as ship. So the nigga would hold the ball and

990
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: he'd be telling this nigga sit there right here. And

991
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: I used to be like, what the fuck, Like I

992
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: look back and this nigga take off and lay the ball.

993
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I tell him, Kurt, he you going

994
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: this motherucker.

995
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: Because he's doing too much sneaky ship man. All that.

996
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: I really guard every brother whoever run off these screens

997
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: right Allen, fuck all this ship because he would be

998
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: holding the ball who is doing and start attacking do

999
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: all them in and outs. And I was like, man,

1000
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: who taught you how to play?

1001
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: Probably taught me how to play, and like Bibby taught

1002
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 4: me my husand coach Doug Baby. Shot Doug Baby again,

1003
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: he's a he's a sense and this ship.

1004
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: But I said, I grew up playing everywhere in the city,

1005
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1006
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: I was always the smallest. I always play up my

1007
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: older brother. He's fires older me. So every time I played,

1008
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: it was niggas around his age, you know what I mean.

1009
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: So it was like, so I didn't get picked up

1010
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: at first, so I had to prove myself. So it's

1011
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: like I always had that chip on my shoulder and

1012
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: always played against more athletic, taller, stronger guys. So it's

1013
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: like for me, I just wanted to be great and

1014
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: I had to find a way to figure ou how

1015
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: to do it. That's where I guess maybe the shot

1016
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: fake came from it. Again, I'm playing aginst tall niggas's

1017
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: they're gonna block my shot, so now I got to

1018
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: smart them on how to you know, to me, I

1019
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: love I compared to like chess. I mean to be

1020
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: a two three steps ahead of the game. And that's

1021
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: always how I thought the game. And for me, the

1022
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 4: film is the answer to the test. So when I

1023
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: once I was introduced to film my freshman in high school,

1024
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: Doug Baby, May's watch film and I'm in this bitch.

1025
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: Like man, hear you go with this shit.

1026
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm bad bady language and film like man,

1027
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: you always talking about me. So at first I didn't

1028
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: understand it, and I see it now teaching the au kid.

1029
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: It's like the same energy it's like, Okay, keep working

1030
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: and think you'll think me later. That's why I continue

1031
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: to do it. So for him to teach me the

1032
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: game and be able to watch myself and understand my

1033
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 4: mistakes and where my weaknesses are and how teams are

1034
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: going to play me, I was able to learn and

1035
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: tinue and just pick it up and be a sponge.

1036
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: And now when I got you know, I got success

1037
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: from it.

1038
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: It was it was I want to I'm not going

1039
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: pay it to a drug.

1040
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: But it was very addictive to continue to learn to

1041
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: watch and play the game and understand guys tendency. So

1042
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: when I get in the game, it's like, huh, I'm

1043
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: ahead of you.

1044
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was a psychopath, I'm like this dude.

1045
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: Like when we used to guard you, I know I'm

1046
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: doing too much basketball. We like the joking ship. But

1047
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: when we used to guard you, I used to tell

1048
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: the coaches like, hey, we got to pick him up.

1049
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: We gotta play him, like like we're playing Steph Curry.

1050
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: You gotta guard him, Like no, no, no, sad back.

1051
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, he like Tom Brady and the PA whatever,

1052
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: But Tom, they're gonna pick you apart. And we used

1053
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: to we's in a playoff series against you. We used

1054
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: to argue about that, and I'm like, bro, we gotta

1055
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: guard him and make him like be a score, make

1056
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: him like you let him do this. Bro, he gonna

1057
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: dissect that ball. Man, he just sit there and let

1058
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: him off a panda.

1059
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: I had too many weapons. It was hard to play like.

1060
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 4: I got KG on the spinout lot and it's crazy.

1061
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm I think eighty. He would have to get it

1062
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 4: from him. Like I said when Adie connection same ship,

1063
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: I was like, man, me and Kevi, you get to

1064
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: every big I played with Cutz like me and that

1065
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: Katie that KG reverse spin because niggas so Thirsty's not

1066
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: to deny the ball because they're such a great players.

1067
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: Now you're playing that.

1068
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: Top side, I'm reading the backside defense and if he

1069
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: ain't a foot of I can only throw to him

1070
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: where you can go get it. So I'm actually teaching

1071
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: my young au team. He ain't duncan yet, but trust

1072
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 4: being bad. By two years from now year and a half,

1073
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna have to spend that live my

1074
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: son and a big kid.

1075
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: Jacob Carter, I'm happy you brought that up. The head fake.

1076
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: You was a two K legend.

1077
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: Dog that was that was that half fake bro with

1078
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: the certain that spin around late.

1079
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: It was green every time. I never played two K never.

1080
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean I played it my son, but I never, like,

1081
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: I never get on the game.

1082
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a gamer. I don't.

1083
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: I just can't get into it. But all the games

1084
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: and I never played games.

1085
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Listen, two K eight to two K, Like, Bro, you

1086
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 2: was unstoppable.

1087
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: Bro. It didn't matter. Bro.

1088
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: But you talk about that Bulls series when you was

1089
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: part of Bulls. Let's talk about that series when you

1090
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: was with the Celtics. Y'all played the Bulls. One of

1091
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: the best first round series ever ever. It was probably

1092
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: about seven over times at that series.

1093
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: That was one of the best. It was. It was

1094
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: a dog.

1095
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: It was a dog fight, man. It was one of

1096
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: my favorite season ever played in shot d Rose one

1097
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: of my favorite player I played against you. I mean, like,

1098
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: he didn't talk shit. He just let his games. We

1099
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: were talking and he was a tough motherfucker to guard

1100
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 4: like unreal like one's.

1101
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: He number one hard as the guard.

1102
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: Yes, nigga tough bro. Yes, I mean you know you

1103
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: could say Steph. But at the same time he was

1104
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: a monster. He is a monster as well, but that

1105
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: particular time with the Rose, you needed all five help,

1106
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: like you had to all five guys had to have

1107
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: eyes on him like a nigga getting the paint just

1108
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: like that. And then he's elevating on any big filet

1109
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: in finessa shit, and I'm like, I mean, this depends.

1110
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: So he was tough man. Transition was She was a

1111
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: one man fast break for sure. And obviously we got

1112
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: to talk about thieves up here. Which one would you say,

1113
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: what's harder to get? Because I both had the legendary

1114
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: rolls for both of them. What sheveryship would you say

1115
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: was a little tougher than the other one. It's different

1116
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: and it's hard to speak on that because again, at

1117
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 4: one point I was twenty one years old, the other

1118
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 4: one I was thirty four, so different times in my life.

1119
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: At twenty one playing, I think we played twenty six

1120
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: games and win. We went to the Hawks seven games,

1121
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: Detroit six, Cleveland seven, and then LA six, so the

1122
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 4: it was like twenty six games and that was, like

1123
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: I said, every game.

1124
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: And you know, if you play in the playoffs like it's.

1125
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: The high and low, you win one you up here

1126
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 4: and you lose, You're like shit, I can't eat, don't

1127
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: talk to me.

1128
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, when do we play again? That's the mindset.

1129
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: So it was like for me, that was a tough

1130
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: one mentally to get through because again, like I said,

1131
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: we had seven games, damn near every time and then

1132
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: like I said, that seven game niggas do it die,

1133
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: So that mindset nigga, and I loved it. I think

1134
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: I thrived the most when it was game seven. So

1135
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 4: it was them type of pressure games because I wanted

1136
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: that moment. But I had a great cask around me.

1137
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, I felt like the pressure

1138
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: was all on me, but it wasn't in a sense

1139
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: because everybody was starting the role and we're able to

1140
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: be great and we didn't have to do it all.

1141
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: Being coached by one of the best motivators ant nexting

1142
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: those guys, Doc Rivers.

1143
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: He's fetching a lot of heat lately, and uh, you.

1144
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 4: Know, but again, like I feel like players make the

1145
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: coaches in the sense, you know, you can't do shit

1146
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: with our talent.

1147
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: And the year before again we lost eighteen straight with

1148
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: that team. With Doc, you get you.

1149
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: Get a mixed a couple of Hall of famers, the

1150
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: right chemistry, Thibodaux coming that motherfucker. Shout out to Tabodeaux defensive,

1151
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: you know, juggernaut, and we were able to mesh man.

1152
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: We had great leadership, guys that sacrifice and ball into

1153
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 4: one another. It wasn't uh no egos at all that

1154
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: particular year, and we we figured out and made it work.

1155
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: We had a group of.

1156
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: Older guys with the big three, and then we had

1157
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: a young guys me, Tony Il and Leon pold Perk,

1158
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 4: y'all been you know what I mean, Eddie House, Jane Posey.

1159
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: So we were deep, uh you know, and and it

1160
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: felt good, Paul, you know, and it felt good to

1161
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 4: run at that table. But the bubble was completely different

1162
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: too though. I mean, like I said, we isolated no

1163
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: motivation really in the sense of just like Nigga check ball,

1164
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: it was it was me against you, wasn't no fans,

1165
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 4: it wasn't no the extra shit on the side, It

1166
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: wasn't no distractions really because we were able to lock

1167
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: in and hoop and play basketball.

1168
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: So I feel like we will always be able to

1169
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: be at our best sense for sure. And everybody talked

1170
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: about that bubble basketball. Y'all was there living in the dorms.

1171
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Everybody was just on Amazon packages and packages hooping like

1172
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: that was like the purest form of basketball. Don't know

1173
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: why people were trying to discredit the bubble ring and

1174
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I might not niggas had to really

1175
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: just sit there and hoop.

1176
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: Bro, Yeah you know, I mean it was. It was

1177
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 4: checkball classic. If you ask me, it wasn't no like

1178
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 4: I said, no extra ship you checkball. You played against

1179
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: each other and like in the playoffs, that's went to me.

1180
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: Mary went crazy Like that's when I was like, oh,

1181
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: this nigga for real, Like I didn't know he was.

1182
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: So he went crazy on us. He destroyed us, like

1183
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: we couldn't check him. He had to move on me

1184
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: so fucking cold man. Y'all gott to find this clip

1185
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: visit a bubb but he went. I feel like I

1186
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: got him got it top of the key. I think, ioh,

1187
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: he go the cup, he drive level or something. He

1188
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 4: went up with his right hand.

1189
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: I contested bit, she flipped switched it, threw it up

1190
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: with his left hit. It was like this nigga is

1191
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: I can't I can't get him next?

1192
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Who next? I can't. I thought, I can we need

1193
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: a big guard them or something. Man, come here, Brian,

1194
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: come on, what was you listening to before the game?

1195
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: So music was you tapping down?

1196
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 4: I'm more over chill, laid back. Maybe R and B

1197
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Hoop session for hoop session.

1198
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 4: But I really started to play chess before the games

1199
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 4: At times my later in my career, I kind of

1200
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: like them just be kind of a level head of mine.

1201
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: So I don't want to be up. I don't be

1202
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 4: amp like. I want to exert all my energy once

1203
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: I get to the court.

1204
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite R and B artists? Rusher listening to

1205
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: the Usher before you went out to kill niggas? It's crazy.

1206
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: I would have never thought the niggas and.

1207
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: Ship was on the list, listen to seduction, going to

1208
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: slapping strange?

1209
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Hell no, I set myself up. Man. You know it's

1210
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: crazy too. You got a lot of legendary pictures.

1211
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: We gotta start with the one with you in the

1212
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: short end, the championship with the with the confetti fall.

1213
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: Now that's like on the internet, like legendary.

1214
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: With my son.

1215
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's what makes That's why I can't really

1216
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 4: say that you know, the first one was better than

1217
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: the second because shout out to Eddie House.

1218
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: We won a championship in the Celtics.

1219
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 4: His son was on the sideline and I was like,

1220
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 4: you know what, I want this experience, crazy man.

1221
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Fast forward. My son was able to be with me

1222
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: on the sidelines during the time. The picture it's the Yeah,

1223
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: it's and see Eddie House when his kid was killing

1224
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: in the tournament. Yeah, I love that.

1225
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1226
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 4: Like people I said, I hate him, Like man, I

1227
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: you know, congrats my nigga, Like this is a great

1228
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: moment for you as a father, as a proud file.

1229
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: I know what you've done with your son, what you've

1230
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: been through, it all the type of shit. So it's

1231
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: like to see that moment. A lot of people went

1232
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: crazy about how he reacted. It was likenig y'all't understand

1233
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: the backstory and everything, you know what I mean. Like,

1234
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: so that inspired me, and that's definitely one of the

1235
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: hardest pictures. Of course, I got one in my you know,

1236
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: my little man cave, and he got one of his rooms.

1237
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: So that's forever a moment. And he's you know, he's

1238
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: he's loving every bit of that. But a lot of

1239
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 4: people think he's thirteen fourteen years old. Now it's like

1240
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 4: on the A U Circle, it's like, man, like, I

1241
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 4: don't the nigga is what he is, like he's twelve.

1242
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: And then another crazy picture is you at the restaurant

1243
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: with the due walked up with the Lebron shirt off

1244
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: and then you need to go to play Lebron.

1245
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: Did I ever talk about that at all? No, we

1246
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: never spoke on that. Okay, yeah, yeah that one.

1247
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Nah. You known seen a funny video, you dude, you

1248
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: know the dude that betrolling people comeing to you and

1249
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: be like, hey, Chris Paul, yea.

1250
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Lock you out things I had.

1251
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: I had security right outside the door because I listen,

1252
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: I jetted in the shoe store.

1253
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm in l A.

1254
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: I think it was even I think it was fucking Christmas,

1255
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: I think so, I'm and I'm ready to grab my

1256
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: son some shoes quickly in the back, run in. I

1257
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: left to security stay in the front. I run out,

1258
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 4: and this nigga pull up out. I didn't even know

1259
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 4: who he was at the time, or you know, that's

1260
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: what he did. So obviously he caught me off guard.

1261
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: And I don't really want to I knew I was

1262
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: on camera sid like, you know, me being my character,

1263
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 4: I gotta be cool what I say.

1264
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: I reacted this, so that's the.

1265
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: I was like, well, I think I was in cool

1266
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 4: kicks or something, man like. I said, I couldn't really

1267
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: move how I do what I am.

1268
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: But hey, man, that that moment is one of my

1269
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: firsorite moments in NBA history. Speaking of too much, but

1270
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: I appreciated that moment very loud.

1271
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: Man. He's crazy.

1272
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: To know these niggas was listening to the usher before

1273
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: the gut don't I would have put three six off

1274
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: on your list. I guess.

1275
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: Same week you that you know the question everywhere Raypa

1276
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: Rolston smacked Eddie House in the back.

1277
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 3: Of the hood.

1278
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: What did y'all say in the locker room? I was

1279
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: so pissed.

1280
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, always upset when that should happened. Because

1281
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: the crazy thing is me and Raypah got into it

1282
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 4: a couple of years back to shout out to rafles

1283
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: got a couple years back we got into when he

1284
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 4: was with Houston. Right, I'm telling you it was jump

1285
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: ball the nigga. The ball didn't even hit the flow

1286
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 4: soon as ball tip up being Rayfer into how we

1287
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: in it, damn nigga out.

1288
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: It was crazy. So when he did that to eat house,

1289
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: I was like, mother.

1290
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: I told you, you ain't even like I'm pissy, like

1291
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: you ain't funk suspension everything, nigga.

1292
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: That definitely that was I was. I was pissed again

1293
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 4: for personal reason, but it's like that was. I loved it.

1294
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: That's part of the game. I'll never forget that ship man,

1295
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: me neither.

1296
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: I was mad. Now, listen, you had to sneaky highlights.

1297
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: They know how you want to leave, but y'all to

1298
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: y'all got to do it versus your highlights and y'all going.

1299
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: Now, he's crazy to.

1300
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: Know we're talking about crazy like which was crazy filing

1301
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: or like doing stuff. I didn't run to some people

1302
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: and ship, but.

1303
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Earlier I don't even I can't even think of that.

1304
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: What do you mean.

1305
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: You got to go? Like, okay, little low light behind

1306
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: the back path we talked about please tell over you

1307
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: in the middle of the club. That part okay for sure. Man,

1308
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: that's crazy. But like, obviously, man, we know how smart

1309
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: you are, but I like to see the greats give

1310
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: you your credit. Like, how does that feel that had

1311
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: that type of validation. Obviously accomplishments is there. But to

1312
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: the people that we all deemed its ghosted. Like hey,

1313
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: now man, rage Rondo is that one? How does that feel?

1314
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: Man?

1315
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, man like to get their respect, to be

1316
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: honored from you know that said part of the greats.

1317
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: I mentioned my name as far as how I understand

1318
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: the game and obviously playing against me for years, I

1319
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 4: played in this thing for sixteen years.

1320
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: So how they respect from?

1321
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 4: Like I said, the guys that's doing the podcast now,

1322
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 4: the people that obviously everybody's talking and to hear those

1323
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 4: responds and respect they give me, it's a blessing and

1324
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: it's something I don't take for granted, you know what

1325
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I said, I never played it for that.

1326
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: I played it just because I wanted to be great

1327
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: and I wanted to find my niche on how I

1328
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 4: could be great because again, I wasn't the fastest, I

1329
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: didn't shoot the best, I didn't jump the highest, like

1330
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 4: so it's like, okay, how can I be great in

1331
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: my own way? And for me, it was like, shit,

1332
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go study harder than most niggas and

1333
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: like I said, be a Sponge. I was fortunate to

1334
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: play with Damn there probably over ten to twelve Hall

1335
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 4: the first Balltleh Hall of Famous. So for me, every nigga,

1336
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 4: every person I played with, it was like, let me

1337
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: get that.

1338
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, let me get that.

1339
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: And then when I did, when I went to different teams,

1340
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: I try to pass it along to the young guys,

1341
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: like to the eighties and I went from Derk to Kevin.

1342
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: Now I'm able to talk to Cus and give it

1343
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 4: to him and give it to the you know, I say,

1344
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis, So whoever that's young player DeAndre Jordan, I mean,

1345
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 4: any young guy I played with. And that's why I

1346
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 4: pride myself on too. It's always giving back to the

1347
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: young boys, to the rookies, the first second player. Your

1348
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: players and niggas don't really fuck with or respecting the

1349
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: sense because again I was once that player.

1350
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: I didn't I came in to Sweny first pick. I

1351
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: didn't play my rookie year, you know.

1352
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: What I mean.

1353
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: So I feel I understood what it took to work

1354
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 4: and continue to have positive people arounning your veterans and

1355
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: people that may look up to me and like Damn

1356
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: niggas fuck with me. Okay, cool, now I get it.

1357
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: Let me this is what he doing, then let me

1358
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: add a little bit of to that. So that's the most

1359
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 4: time that they gonna get. When I go to these games,

1360
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 4: I see these young niggas and they're like, man, I

1361
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: appreciate what you did for me. Though, It's like that's

1362
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: the most satisfying thing for me, along with you know,

1363
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: argub be the greatest about time, Brian saying that he

1364
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: respect my.

1365
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: C like no other. So it's like I can't change

1366
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: to be thankful for it.

1367
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: Trying to pass and the nigga crazy Bro. Y'all don't

1368
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: know he played against us. You tore your a c

1369
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: L man, I swear Bro. I was like, I remember

1370
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: when you did. I'm like, damn, I think Bro got hurt.

1371
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Bullshit played so I made a bounced KG came down.

1372
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Ship, what the fuck? I thought?

1373
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: I was hyper cinderma Ship, I need to cut you off,

1374
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go in.

1375
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: I remember, I was like, damn, I think Bro got hurt.

1376
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: So the next day I was a fan of yours.

1377
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: So I used to watch your games and me and

1378
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: do that. Kenny Atkinson. We used to dissect all the

1379
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: best point guards and he was like Rondo playing the night.

1380
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: It was Sunday against Cleveland. Yeah, you know it's Miami.

1381
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: You was about to play, about about to play, and

1382
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, ABC game, I'm ready to go, and he

1383
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I thought he got hurt, and we

1384
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: like forgot about it. And then when they tell you

1385
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: told you you tore your a c I'm he finished

1386
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: the game on a tour a cl.

1387
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about play though after I did that.

1388
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: So listen, this is crazy Becausekyle Cole was turning I

1389
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 4: ass up that game, and when I tore my a

1390
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: CL at the time, I thought it was hyper extent.

1391
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, whatever, fuck it, I'm twenty five, twenty six

1392
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 4: with that, I'm you know, I can get through it.

1393
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: The game went overtime, so Coyle's turned my ass up.

1394
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: Dot called time out. Man, who's gonna stop Kyle Coach?

1395
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: I got him? Fuck it.

1396
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: It's after to a SI. Next play, did you niggas

1397
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: are in the play? He came out of damn near

1398
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 4: Tripple's cree. I'm chasing the nigga.

1399
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, he lined that bit up yeah,

1400
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, coach, I can't check him.

1401
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. It was like I can't do it.

1402
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: So I get on the plane.

1403
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I'm cool, my shit, swell up, I'll ice

1404
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 4: my ship whatever. We're playing cards boom. Next day we

1405
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: got an off day Sunday.

1406
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: Come man, that game. I did have a back to

1407
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: I had a triple double. So I'm now I'm facing

1408
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: I got two triple dobles back to back. I'm trying

1409
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: to catch Burry for this third one. It's ABC.

1410
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm checking. I'm playing against bron So I got another level.

1411
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go to ABC, go to training room.

1412
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: I got that morning ten o'clock sho around something. I

1413
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: got damn near ten heat packs on me, all on

1414
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: my legs. My back is coat of shit in the

1415
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 4: arena and I I go bout to get ready for

1416
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: the game. I take my shower. The doctor like, oh,

1417
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: go sitting on the table for a second. I'm like,

1418
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: for what telling me about? Go lay down for a second.

1419
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: Ma He did the A cl check on me. He

1420
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: was like, you're not playing today. I'm like, what, Like

1421
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: what you mean, nigga, I'm ready. I'm alright, I'm cool.

1422
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: He's like, nah, go go to go get this extra MRIs.

1423
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, cool, go get the MRIs. This Sunday

1424
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: hospitals closed, nobody's in there. I go with one doctor.

1425
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: As soon as I get m RI, I we drive

1426
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: back to the game. I turned the radio ron do

1427
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: to a C. I'm like, what the fuck? Like hot,

1428
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 4: we just got.

1429
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: The MRI, Like did you I'm looking at doctor, but

1430
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: you call somebody like I got the a cl tour,

1431
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean? So I don't I don't

1432
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: even know. I get the news on the radio going

1433
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: back to the arena.

1434
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's crazy.

1435
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: Window I was. I was trying to go. It wasn't Now.

1436
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what I would.

1437
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: Have done if I would have just fell down because

1438
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: I had a parstial tear. In order for me to

1439
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: play again, I had to get the surgery. But if

1440
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: I was just regular Joe, I could have just continued

1441
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: to walk.

1442
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: I probably propped a couple of parks and went crazy

1443
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: thirty thirty.

1444
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: But at that time I said de Rose towards a

1445
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: CLO and min Shumper towards a cl and they couldn't

1446
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: finish the game. So for me in my mind was like, well,

1447
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: I finished the game, so I didn't turn my a

1448
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: cl So I was like, okay, I thought this iry extended,

1449
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 4: I can play.

1450
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: That was my mindset, thinking what the ac of terrible?

1451
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: I just remember like this Nigga finished the game real.

1452
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I'm this dedicated.

1453
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: Finished the game, bro for sure. Before we get out

1454
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: of here, though, we got to talk about it.

1455
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Bro.

1456
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: That number nine Rondo is one of the legendary rap

1457
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: lines out of that feel.

1458
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: When you was in everybody wrap.

1459
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: So like anytime somebody said nine, your name was coming

1460
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: right after that.

1461
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: You know what that?

1462
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: It was so crazy, Like I said, again, I never

1463
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: understood knew it because again the reason why I got

1464
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 4: nine in Boston was because four was gone.

1465
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: No, no, four wasn't gone up.

1466
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: The single dish number was gone, and Ryan Gong was like, man,

1467
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 4: give me some bread for it. I'm like, Nigga, like

1468
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 4: you said, I ain't got no breade. I can't pay

1469
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: for no motherfucking number.

1470
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: With that.

1471
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: Let me get nine.

1472
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: That's how it came about. So I didn't really know

1473
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 4: obviously what I was doing when I got it. How

1474
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: crazy I've been through maybe like about ten years AGL.

1475
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: I have one of my boys out and Seattle used

1476
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: to make the iPods for us and Nate Robinson's Homeboy,

1477
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: and he made all the track lists with Number nine

1478
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: in it with my song and it was maybe like

1479
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: fifty six songs or something they had my name in it.

1480
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: So it was it was humbling again when I went

1481
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 4: to all the clubs and different cities. I'm in the

1482
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 4: hood club niggas show all the niggas showed me love. Man,

1483
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: it was unreal, Like that's another humbling feeling. It's like niggas,

1484
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I'm in. I'm in the cities.

1485
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: They ain't really got a lot of people around me.

1486
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: And niggas look at the grinds they love me. I

1487
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 4: mean they would be in a sense of snow HOMEO.

1488
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: You good.

1489
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: You got a lot respect. Now that's a good feeling though. Yeah.

1490
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get the love from the from the from

1491
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: the streets and you know what I mean, from your peers.

1492
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great feeling now that Number nine rondo.

1493
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: Let's let'son Darry Jersey too, for sure. For show Man,

1494
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: they gotta retired too.

1495
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: I think they retired. Man.

1496
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: Listen, man, I'm able to provide my family for generations.

1497
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: Man, I don't real about retired jerys. Man.

1498
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 4: If I do, then there's the blessings again. It's another one.

1499
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: But again, when I started this ship, it was to

1500
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 4: take care of my family. Sure, brod ay Man, salute man.

1501
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: We know what it is.

1502
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: Whenever this time you know you're going to the Hall

1503
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: of Fame, first ballot. We ain't even worry about it.

1504
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: We appreciate you having us in the five boh two man,

1505
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: appreciate the gratitude.

1506
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to the team, Shout out to the family.

1507
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: You know what it is. Club five twenty be here.

1508
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: Tell the people they can buy some merch.

1509
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: Hat hold on, I still got mount verb overro o.

1510
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: Let me do my spell. I gotta do my spirit

1511
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: crazy shout club. It ain't gonna be no.

1512
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: Merch on the sight, just us for sure, love game,

1513
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: appreciate you know what it is.

1514
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: Flight share, subscribe all that good ship. Club five twenty