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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus podcast podcast pot all right, here.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen Cuddy twenty five, thirty, thirty five, forty, forty five, fifty.

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Speaker 2: And the kicks block college football or stundod bye.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he's stumbled the football.

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Speaker 1: The lateral turn, the corner on the inside, can't you

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Speaker 1: the lad came them off the fail to night. By god,

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Speaker 1: it's not the sage of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 4: It's the side of the fight in the roll.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus, The New BCS

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Speaker 5: version of the podcast Why the New BCS Brett Colin

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Speaker 5: Stuckey first reported by our own Gret McMurphy.

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Speaker 1: McMurphy is sources.

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Speaker 5: Heyleen Colin Wilson with the Action Network. Before last season,

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Speaker 5: the record for fourth down A Thames was forty six.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, I did not know he set a record. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's got fam pel. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting.

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Speaker 3: Finish, Sorry, Stucky, Just.

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Speaker 5: A good thirty minutes of my two friends and I

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Speaker 5: hanging out with me. The elite. Brett McMurphy, who has

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Speaker 5: I think went undefeated on our Saturday show. Mc murphy,

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Speaker 5: You monstrous erection. You stucky and I battling through the

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Speaker 5: day on the Action app. Gentlemen, how are you good?

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Speaker 3: You hold Tampa with Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Doing good? Yeah, I live in Tampa. If you guys

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Speaker 4: don't know, hurricane is headed that way as of Monday night.

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Speaker 4: We're good. Hopefully Hurricane Ian will resemble the Miami Hurricanes

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Speaker 4: and that it will sputter and fizzle at the end

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Speaker 4: and not live up the expectations. So fingers crossed for that.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think it's proper that it is

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Speaker 5: going to turn into a category four. Isn't four the

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Speaker 5: number you had Miami and your preseason AP top twenty five.

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Speaker 5: That's a pretty good number, right.

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Speaker 4: To say, yes it was, Yeah, it was six, and

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Speaker 5: Had to get you you being six, and oh, I

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Speaker 5: know you're coming in hot.

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Speaker 4: At least it's not a Category twenty five, which is

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Speaker 4: where I write Nebraska two in the preseason. But hey,

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Speaker 4: this news happened last week, so I have a quick question.

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Speaker 4: A twenty one year old Utah student, a female, was

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Speaker 4: arrested after she threatened to detonate a nuclear reactor located

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Speaker 4: on campus if the Youths lost to San Diego State

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Speaker 4: last week. She was booked into jail fortunately Utah one

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Speaker 4: thirty five to seven. Everybody. Say, my question to you

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Speaker 4: guys is what SEC fan base is the most unhinged

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Speaker 4: that you would fear if they had a nuclear reactor

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Speaker 3: To me, this is easy, right, I mean, like just

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Speaker 3: football because it would be Kentucky for just football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, I mean this wasn't you wouldn't want

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Speaker 3: A nuclear reactor around here. When Kentucky lost to Saint Peters, I'll.

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Speaker 5: Tell you that Alabama fan, an Alabama fan poisoned all

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Speaker 5: the oak trees a tumor's corner, right, Can we think

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Speaker 5: of a more heinous there? I mean, listen, we have

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Speaker 5: an Arkansas fan that.

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Speaker 1: Bit the nose, the flesh, the nose.

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Speaker 5: And this guy was a chief operating officer, right, And

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Speaker 5: we've had other instances of fights and people and being

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Speaker 5: held at gunpoint after losses. But to have the balls

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Speaker 5: to go poison a bunch of oak trees, Like, is

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Speaker 5: there something worse than the SEC that's happened off the

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Speaker 5: field after a loss?

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Arkansas. We heard a voicemail this weekend from

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Speaker 3: an Arkansas fan saying an endless life of pain. That's

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Speaker 4: It's just an endless life of pain, endless life of pain.

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Speaker 4: Every sport, every season, doesn't matter. I hate it.

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Speaker 3: So there was an access to nuclear reactor. You don't

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Speaker 3: to be anywhere near something like that. So I'm going

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Speaker 3: I'm going to Arkansas and Colin are is it more

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Speaker 3: endless pain this weekend? Or is there a shot that

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Speaker 3: Arkansas will do is I don't know if Bam was back,

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Speaker 1: Well, at a very high level.

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Speaker 5: I know you and I covered later this week. Seventeen's

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Speaker 5: way too high. There's a seventeen and a half out

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Speaker 5: The number is way inflated. And when you think about this,

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Speaker 5: Jefferson superman from the four yard line changed everything. But Arkansas,

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Speaker 5: by all means everywhere except for the scoreboard, won that game.

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Speaker 5: So why should this number open up inflated? Get inflated

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to play it and then on Thursday

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Speaker 5: hopefully we could justify it. And to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: That's you know we're gonna We're.

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Speaker 3: Still worried about their secondary without Catalan, but they held

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Speaker 3: Text AM lost their best off deeper by the way too.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm afraid of this, the secondary against Alabama,

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Speaker 3: but because Alabamas looked so good at festival, but it's

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Speaker 3: been the Vandy Ulm, like the fifty point favorite. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree, seventeen taking the seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but we know Brett's gonna be holding up the

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Speaker 5: role tie to sign on Saturday that probably to end

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Speaker 4: Clearly, I can either confirm he deny that. I don't

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Speaker 4: going six and O last week. Uh, as far as

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Speaker 4: me with the nuclear reactor, you guys left out two

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Speaker 4: obvious schools for me, and that's that's Auburn and Tennessee

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Speaker 4: fan bases, and also administrations that have literally ran their

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Speaker 4: But I agree, calling poisoning a tree, that's uh. I'll

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Speaker 4: give Harvey eppdyke By a nose. At the end last week,

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Speaker 4: Drell is gone, Ryan Harson is gone, Jeff Collins gets

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Speaker 3: Through the seaton? That's Operation Dion though, right, Uh, if

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Speaker 4: Wants it, which we don't know what he wants. I

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Speaker 3: But I'm you saying from a Georgia Tech perspective, that's

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Speaker 4: I actually talked to source earlier today. They said that again,

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Speaker 4: They said, pump the brakes on Dion because it is

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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying Dion doesn't, but they I'm not

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Speaker 4: and that's Dion, So he would have a huge impact.

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Speaker 4: But I agree, Stucky, I think you got to look

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Speaker 5: There is there a fan base capable of spending the

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Speaker 5: fight programs do on nil on just everything from a

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Speaker 5: if Dion comes in, you're gonna want to spend around

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Speaker 5: him to make sure everything goes all right. Is Georgia

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Speaker 3: Up to do that?

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Speaker 4: No, But when you bring Dion in, that's changed. That

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Speaker 4: changes everything. Yeah, it changes everything. And anyone that may

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Speaker 4: have concerns about his coaching background and all that stuff, look,

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Speaker 4: the guy pretty decent player, you know in collegen in

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Speaker 1: And he can't get much worse than what it's been, right,

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Speaker 4: Can also hire guys that can you know, that can

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Speaker 4: as a weakness. But you're right, stuck. It was God

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Speaker 4: Tech was just awful. And it's you look at Carl

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Speaker 3: That's got to be next. First, Well, first look at

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Speaker 4: You look at the schedule at Arizona this week and

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Speaker 4: Perfect setup. Brian Harrison has got LSU and it's not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's over for both. Yeah, color Oh is

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Speaker 3: They're getting destroyed. It's embarrassing. I mean, I would rather

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Speaker 5: You gotta think Brian Harrison's getting up there though, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, that was not a glorious game against Missouri whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: That probably buys them like another week or two.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, but but then.

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Speaker 5: Again, guys, remember the new college football and Brett knows this.

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Speaker 5: We're now firing people in mid October in case they

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Speaker 5: might make a bowl.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: I mean it used to be like, oh, if you

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Speaker 5: So you know, if these administrators have already made it

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Speaker 4: Never now? Yeah, stuck, He's right. I mean, he's built

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Speaker 4: up so much equity there and yeah, this is a

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Speaker 4: horrible season, and he would be the first to admit that. Look,

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Speaker 4: if they string together two consecutive years of one and eleven,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna pivot over to your bowl? Your Bowl projections.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know they're going to be. I see twelve

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Speaker 3: There's still a path, really path for Texas, but I

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Speaker 4: Hey something else I reported. It was last week after

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want, I want all of them. I want.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind the whatever, the conference realignment and all

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Speaker 4: That's one that could go that one could go away,

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Speaker 4: But Georgia, Georgia Tech could go away.

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Speaker 5: going to be played in the TRIPAA Park down in

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma City. If it's wrestling, it happened at the BOK

438
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Speaker 5: Center in Tulsa. Like bedlam, is such a big deal

439
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Speaker 5: down to the most minuscule sport you could think of,

440
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Speaker 5: so it you know, this is one of those in

441
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Speaker 5: state rivalries that I don't think should go away. I

442
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Speaker 5: think they should have found a way to play them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not an athletic director, and I don't

444
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Speaker 5: make schedules, and I don't look at the financials, but

445
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Speaker 5: I would assume that you would want to keep a

446
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Speaker 5: game like that on your schedule, even out of conference,

447
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Speaker 5: just for playing everybody else for recruiting purposes. You need

448
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Speaker 5: to own your state. I don't think Oklahoma's ever scared

449
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Speaker 5: of losing anybody. They get who they want, anywhere they want.

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Speaker 5: But this is one of those that I think should

451
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Speaker 5: stay on the schedule.

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Speaker 4: The reason it's very simple, and you know, people can

453
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Speaker 4: blame whoever they want. It's very simple. All these games

454
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Speaker 4: that stuck reference the U reference Colin. They could be

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Speaker 4: played going forward with one simple adjustment. The schools would

456
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Speaker 4: have to play eleven Power five opponents. They will not

457
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Speaker 4: do that. They will only play nine conference games and

458
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Speaker 4: then one Power five non conference game, and that those

459
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Speaker 4: games are scheduled how fifteen years so until everyone can

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Speaker 4: get together and agree. Okay, maybe the twelve team playoff

461
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Speaker 4: will bring some of these games back because you don't

462
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Speaker 4: have to only lose one game and have a shot

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Speaker 4: to get.

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Speaker 3: To the playoff.

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Speaker 4: You know, let's hope. So because yeah, it's it's a mess.

466
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Speaker 4: The good news is one one monster rivalry is not

467
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Speaker 4: going away. The Shoe La Bowl. Florida International and Florida

468
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Speaker 4: Atlantic will be in different conferences next year. They have

469
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Speaker 4: signed a four year extension for that down South Florida.

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Speaker 4: Yeah stuck. So thank god, I know that's a big

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Speaker 4: game for you.

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Speaker 3: I can finally exhal.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully Florida National have have shoulder pads for that game

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Speaker 5: and they can cover US eight.

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Speaker 3: They are horrendous.

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Speaker 4: So moving on.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've done some bold projections here, and you

478
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Speaker 5: know we've given up a couple of long shots. I mean,

479
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Speaker 5: Washington TCU have good pads, and those are two conferences

480
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Speaker 5: you know that they could absolutely cannibalize each other. But

481
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Speaker 5: you know there's the Big twelve and PAC twelve are

482
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Speaker 5: very much set up for some underdogs to make it

483
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Speaker 5: to the championship game from preseason expectations. Moving on to

484
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Speaker 5: the Heisman, is this CJ. Strouds to win? Now, guys,

485
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Speaker 5: we're all, all three of us are Heisman voters. I

486
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Speaker 5: can't see a world where c J. Stroud if healthy

487
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Speaker 5: and if he continues to put up sixty percent of

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Speaker 5: what he just put up against Wisconsin's defense. Who who

489
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Speaker 5: is jumping this guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? We basically Brad had a great run and he

491
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Speaker 3: went sick the last week.

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Speaker 1: But dude, it's not It's not over.

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Speaker 3: I think we crushed. It's not over Bennett.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't award the Heisman in freaking September stuff.

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Speaker 3: You had zero touchdowns in one receptions. It doesn't Matter's

496
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Speaker 3: not gonna lose either, is what I'm saying. Is he's

497
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Speaker 3: never gonna catch Stroud. That's it. Like you gotta hope

498
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Speaker 3: Stroud loses and he's Croud's gonna put up numbers every

499
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Speaker 3: week no matter what. And stets and Bennett And if

500
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Speaker 3: you look, if you look actually at some of the

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Speaker 3: underlying metrics like Stetson Bennett has, like the if you

502
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Speaker 3: look at like separation of d backs, like easier like

503
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Speaker 3: there's he's just making like simple throws the guys that

504
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Speaker 3: are quite open.

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Speaker 4: Dude, Hey, dude, I guarante, I guarantee ninety nine point

506
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Speaker 4: nine percent of the Heisman voters have no idea what

507
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Speaker 4: you're talking about, Yes, but.

508
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Speaker 3: I can tell you that they and no touchdown against

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Speaker 3: Kent State. And this maybe they don't even know that

510
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Speaker 3: stat line, but the sentiment out there after this weekend,

511
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Speaker 3: Bennett is never gonna to be able to put up

512
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Speaker 3: numbers to surpass Stroud if Strouds just keeps winning as

513
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Speaker 3: we all expect him to do, and Straudle just I

514
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Speaker 3: think that gap will keep going like this. And I

515
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Speaker 3: also think that you know, Georgia played their first game

516
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Speaker 3: against Oregon, they just brilliant game plan. Everything went well.

517
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Speaker 3: I think they played Sanford, they've went thirty three to nothing.

518
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Speaker 3: You know, they played South Carolina was missing eight defensive starters. Okay,

519
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Speaker 3: then you're like struggling against Kent State. Okay, Well, it's

520
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Speaker 3: only gonna get harder from here on out, and.

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Speaker 4: So you might That's exactly why he's got a shot.

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Speaker 4: He's still got the back half of the season. Flooridat

523
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Speaker 4: Tennessee at Mississippi State at Kentucky and then Alabama in

524
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Speaker 4: the SEC title game. Again, if George is thirteen and

525
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Speaker 4: oh and.

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Speaker 3: I George is not going thirteen and oh after what

527
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Speaker 3: I saw this weekend, and I'm making I'm sticking my claim.

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Speaker 3: Georgia loses at Mississippi State. Wow, yep, Colin, do you agree? Well?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's maybe no.

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Speaker 5: I at this point, No, I don't agree. I mean

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Speaker 5: I'm welcome. I the whole thing with Kent I think

532
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Speaker 5: was more on Georgia than it was on Kent.

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Speaker 4: They're sleepwalking. They don't care about that game.

534
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Speaker 3: You know they should. They've had one well stated, they

535
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Speaker 3: don't care about ben Bennet Heisman. How does State cared

536
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Speaker 3: about Toledo and put up eighty on a team that

537
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Speaker 3: held colin San Diego State aztects their explosive offense to ten.

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Speaker 5: They're electric and vertical.

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Speaker 3: Get it right.

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Speaker 5: The nightn't say explosive, they're electric and vertical. I mean, listen,

541
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Speaker 5: we got Stetsan benedty Hey and Brett's argument is that

542
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Speaker 5: we've still got November to play. We've still got a

543
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Speaker 5: conference championship game to play.

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Speaker 4: I think it's down to the four people. I don't

545
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Speaker 4: think Pennix is really realistic. You know, Jayalen Daniels at

546
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Speaker 4: Kansas is not realistic. I think it's down to Stroud.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Kanas goes undefeated.

548
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a big h that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's down to Stroud, Ben At, Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams and Bryce Yoump. That's that's the that's my I

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Speaker 4: would say if somebody would offer me your winner's going

552
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Speaker 4: to come out of that four would probably be minus

553
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Speaker 4: one thousand, But that's the Heisman winner will come out

554
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Speaker 4: of those four.

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Speaker 3: Lady got on a limb. I'm saying it's Stroud and

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying it's not Stroud's. I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 4: not I'm not saying it's not Stroud. I'm not saying it's.

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Speaker 3: Minus thousand in the group. Right, No, right, I know.

560
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Speaker 4: But you look at the back half of Ohio state schedule.

561
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Speaker 4: At penn State, at Northwestern they're horrible, Indiana, at Maryland, Michigan,

562
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Speaker 4: they don't have the high profile games, so obviously you

563
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Speaker 4: will build up a lot of numbers getting into that.

564
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Speaker 4: But again, Heisman voters now, they will literally look at

565
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Speaker 4: the last two weeks of the season and decide who

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Speaker 4: they're going to vote for for the Heisman. Like some

567
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 4: guys now are that brock Bauers needs to get it

568
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: for Georgia. Well, he's not going to have, you know,

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Speaker 4: seventy five yard touchdowns every week. If he does, he'll

570
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Speaker 4: win it. But when we get to back to November,

571
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Speaker 4: the Heisman voters have very short memories. And I'm not

572
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Speaker 4: saying that's right, but you know, we'll see stuck. You've

573
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Speaker 4: you've got two predictions on here, Matt will rack them up.

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Speaker 4: Stroud wins the Highs and Georgia loses a Mississippi State.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely no love for Adrian Martinez in this room.

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Speaker 3: No. And by the way, team futures, he completed one

577
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Speaker 3: pass the first three weeks Team Futures. This might sound crazy,

578
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna dig into before next week. I was

579
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Speaker 3: thinking of this morning about.

580
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Speaker 4: USC, you've gone to the dark side.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking that with their path, but the biggest

582
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Speaker 6: thing that I saw and also I want to bet

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Speaker 6: on a team that cannot just get there, like USC

584
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 6: could out score anybody, right, like if they got there

585
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Speaker 6: with that offense.

586
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Speaker 3: Now we've seen it not work with Lincoln Riley in

587
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Speaker 3: the pass at Oklahoma. But I don't think Alabama and

588
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't and Georgia like showed some cracks this.

589
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They still aren't as dominant as I think, you know,

591
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Speaker 3: as they were like last year for example. So if

592
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Speaker 3: us he can get there, do I think that they

593
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: could win it. I don't, not not necessarily think, but

594
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Speaker 3: it's based on odds and probabilities. But their defense showed

595
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Speaker 3: me improvement, like real improvement against the Oregon State like

596
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Speaker 3: it was a legit sieve up until that game, and

597
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: their defense played. I was digging into some of them.

598
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: Their defense played really well and just watching it. So

599
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Speaker 3: I think that their defense could be improved. They still

600
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Speaker 3: have a ton of turnout of regression coming, but I

601
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Speaker 3: don't know what are they out, Like if they run

602
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Speaker 3: the table, they're getting in at the fourth. They could

603
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Speaker 3: even get in with one loss twenty to one. Out there,

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Speaker 3: I think I might dabble what's up USC Nation. I've

605
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Speaker 3: always been on your side, fight on it'd.

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Speaker 4: Be a great great hedge play. I just know the

607
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Speaker 4: highlight of the highlight of my career was Saturday night,

608
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Speaker 4: I put out a Twitter poll because nobody got the

609
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Speaker 4: PAC twelve network, and I said, do you guys want

610
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Speaker 4: me to tweet play by play or just a update

611
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Speaker 4: on the scores? And more than fifty percent wanted play

612
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Speaker 4: by play, So I literally tweeted out every play by play.

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Speaker 4: The next day, I noticed I lost like two hundred

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Speaker 4: Twitter followers, So I guess not everybody was a big

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Speaker 4: fan of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 4: Really, I didn't realize how many people didn't get the

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Speaker 4: PAC twelve network. It was kind of scary, actually, because

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Speaker 4: these are big time college football fans, you know, that

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Speaker 4: are that are following us, and and I was very surprised.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not only that it's your it's your cable

622
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Speaker 5: provider like I have at and T Direct TV, and

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Speaker 5: they just don't have any way for you to purchase

624
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Speaker 5: pact told network. And so you know, you have to

625
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Speaker 5: go steal somebody else's password, stream it on a device

626
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Speaker 5: that doesn't you know, already cooked up to your cable stuff,

627
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Speaker 5: and then you can throw it on your TV.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a chore. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve is just so.

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Speaker 5: Out of whack. They don't even know how to get

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Speaker 5: eyeballs in front of their biggest game of the year,

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Speaker 5: So tough on them.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 5: Right, let's move to our I think our new favorite

635
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Speaker 5: segment on the show, which is what are we calling

636
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Speaker 5: the stump? The sources Stumper, The sources stumper?

637
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a name for it.

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Speaker 4: I know you know. If you guys call us on

639
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Speaker 4: the voicemail, let us know you're right calling. It's now

640
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: time for America's favorite game show. We're calling this the

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Speaker 4: sources Stumper, still hoping for a better name.

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Speaker 3: May sound easy, but it will test your head and

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Speaker 3: your mind and your brain too.

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Speaker 5: I go, I don't claim to be No.

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Speaker 3: Thirty six AZT.

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Speaker 4: No checking out the leaderboard stucky. You're up two to nothing, Colin,

647
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: you will go first this week. And remember no no

648
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Speaker 4: googling stuck. I did vote Kansas on my ap Top

649
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Speaker 4: twenty five ballot, but the Jayhawks did not get ranked.

650
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: Kansas has not been ranked since two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 4: That is the longest streak among Power five schools. My

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Speaker 4: question is, two parts of this week a lot of

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00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: points out there. What for schools after Kansas? Power five

654
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: schools have the longest droughts of not being ranked in

655
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: the AP poll. Calling your first one quick question, do

656
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: you guys want to play? Make it?

657
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Take it?

658
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: If you get one right or you just alternate all

659
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: the way through that, make it take it? Okay? So calling,

660
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: you're up?

661
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: The four schools after?

662
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: Can powerful? All four?

663
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah, well we've.

664
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: Got two parts of this.

665
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't make it take a Colin, I'm behind.

666
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: So this is there's four of them.

667
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: If you get one, you get to go. You get

668
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: one more, guess, but you can't go. That's okay, Now

669
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: more than two in a row? Okay, callin, you're up?

670
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: All right?

671
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: And five schools power five schools? How long it's been

672
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: since they've been ranked?

673
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: No, you know, I don't need how long I need?

674
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: The four schools with the longest droughts not being ranked

675
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: in the top twenty five.

676
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: In history or right now currently currently currently okay.

677
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: Currently current longest streaks after Kansas.

678
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Colin, you're up, Oh boy, ruggers, that's correct, that's correct.

679
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: You got one more, one more guest than stuck.

680
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: He goes, all right, give me Arizona wrong, You're wrong, Colin,

681
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: you got one point there?

682
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: Stucky wasn't wasn't Arizona rank but what's his name? Is

683
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: there you probe?

684
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

685
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: No, your boy, that's who. Who's the running Dr Richal.

686
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: Khalil Tate?

687
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm gonna go. The obvious one is Vandy.

688
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: Correct?

689
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: Actually there they're Street. They were ranked in the final

690
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: poll in twenty fourteen. They're actually they're actually fifth on

691
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: the list. Rutgers is third. So we've got the second

692
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: longest streak in the fourth longest Street. Then fourteen. Yeah,

693
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: the end of the end of the twenty thirteen regular season,

694
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: final poll of twenty thirteen regular season, after the after

695
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: the bowl game, Sorry stuck, you got one more guests.

696
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna go. Uh Illinois Wow, two.

697
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: For two second longest Street. They have not been ranked

698
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: since twenty eleven. Colin One more to go?

699
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: One more to go? Can I just talk? I know

700
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: it's not Northwestern.

701
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: You can talk it out. I can't talk it out. Well,

702
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: just just tell you talk.

703
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say anything. You could just get me.

704
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you know.

705
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: This one's not as obvious as the other ones. I'll

706
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: just put it that way.

707
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 5: Power Fire School, how about Boston College?

708
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: That is not correct?

709
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: Stucky, You're I think I know it and I think

710
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: that the reason it was asked is that I'm in Brett.

711
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get in Brett's brain here a

712
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: little bit.

713
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you why the question was asked because

714
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: of Kansas. So I thought Kansas would be ranked this week.

715
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: Well you just kept I kept the question anyway.

716
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going with this answer because this is my

717
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: line of thinking. Okay, you were just talking about doing

718
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: play by play for Oregon State USC and I can't

719
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: remember the last time Oregon State was right. So I'm

720
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: gonna go Oregon State.

721
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: Man Stucky Stucky with the win.

722
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, that was right.

723
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: Oregon State August seventeenth, twenty thirteenth, fourth th thinking.

724
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: But then I was like, I can't remember when the

725
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: Oregon State was last ranked.

726
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: So stuck. Current leaderboard, Stucky year five calling your one

727
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 4: calling good news. We've got a second part real quick. Okay,

728
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: Kansas has the ninth longest streak. There are eight group

729
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: of five schools that have longer ap top twenty five

730
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 4: droughts this time, no, make it take it once you

731
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: guys get too wrong, it's over because this would take

732
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: probably an hour. So I'm looking for group of five

733
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 4: schools with the eight current longest droughts from being ranked

734
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: in the AP Top twenty five calling, you're up, u mess, No,

735
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: they haven't been around long enough. Next, dude, sorry they have.

736
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: They can't have a long drought if they haven't played

737
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: football that long.

738
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: New Mexico. No, all right, it's over New Mexico.

739
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: No, you each get too wrong, so hold on taking

740
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: that back.

741
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: New Mexican State was they were in a bowl. They're fine,

742
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: Let me go Florida International.

743
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: Nope, man, you guys are going to strike out here.

744
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 4: I have to give you an extra.

745
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 3: Guest, Stuck, I'm gonna go North Texas.

746
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: The longest AP Top twenty five drought in the country,

747
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: North Texas. They have not been ranked since nineteen fifty nine.

748
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Colin, how is that possible?

749
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: You can go on? You can go one more. I'll

750
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: give you one more.

751
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: Miss. I was gonna say, yukon, No.

752
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: They were rigged.

753
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: They haven't been they haven't played long enough. What all right? Stuck?

754
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 4: You you finished? You can you get one more? Right?

755
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: Then we'll I'll give you the rest of the answers.

756
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: South Alabama, you guys want to go quick, We'll do

757
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: one tech Yes, number eight. Okay, stuck one more gifts

758
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: law Tech no ball State, No, okay, that's it. You're

759
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: gonna be pissed calling number two New Mexico State. Oh,

760
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: it has not been, It has not been, has not

761
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: been ranked since nineteen sixty. Number three Rice not ranked

762
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: since nineteen sixty. Now we have a huge gap. Wyoming

763
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: not been ranked since nineteen ninety eight. Two Lane has

764
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: not been ranked since undefeated in nineteen ninety eights. What

765
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: were they ranked that year? Stuck? I remember real quick,

766
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: that's right?

767
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: Seven? Uh the last two quarterback?

768
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: Yes he was?

769
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: Uh?

770
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: Last two Maction Miami, Ohio has not been ranked since

771
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: two thousand and three, and Bowling Green has not been

772
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: ranked since two thousand and four. Updated standing stucky six

773
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: all in one until next week. Thanks for flying.

774
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Now we give call him two

775
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 3: six to two because he got one of the number

776
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: he got U taped and then he got one of

777
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: the four ruckers.

778
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: Correct. Yep, my bad, six to two, dah.

779
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm always looking out for you.

780
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: I'm getting smoked. Absolutely, somebody is by. So I was

781
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: one to o on my for the road pick last week.

782
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys did what how'd you do?

783
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 3: I think I lost mine. I assume you had two.

784
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: Stuck you Georgia State and I forgot your other one.

785
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 3: I probably lost No, I think it was UTAP you went.

786
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: One and one? Oh yeah, that was yeah, Georgia State, Utah.

787
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah'd you have Colin?

788
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember? And what the road last week? Early

789
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: pit Oregon State?

790
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 4: Okay, so collectively we went three and one. That's positive.

791
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 4: All right, one for the road. You guys want to

792
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: go first? Yeah, I'll start off.

793
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: I'll be the weekday guy here. I'm gonna go. This

794
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: is scary, but I'm gonna go. Boise State minus six

795
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: against San Diego State. It's a disaster in boys right now.

796
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: But they brought in their Every Boise State fan is

797
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: like so happy now. They brought in Dirk Cutter as

798
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator, like start saved the program, like launched

799
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: them into relevancy back in ninety eight to two thousand.

800
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: He just I don't know how much they're paying ever

801
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: what he's doing, but it can't be any worse than

802
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: Tim Plow. Hank Blackmeier is transferred. I think getting this

803
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: kid Green in there, the offense is gonna look different.

804
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: San Diego State's not gonna know what to expect. There's

805
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: like a rejuvenated feeling and San Diego State's offense is horrendous, horrendous.

806
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: They can't do anything. They can't especially can't pass the

807
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: ball and Boise this year. You can't run on them.

808
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: So I think Boise in front of like a hyped

809
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: crowd buying low on them here with Cutter. I don't

810
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: know how much you can do in six days, but

811
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Boise for my week. I'll give out

812
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: a weekday game here every week.

813
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm gonna pivot into Arkansas. And it's not

814
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: trust me, it's not Homer bias since I've been picking

815
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: against him every week. But this is a number that

816
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 5: I make around like thirteen. I think sp plus makes

817
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: this fifteen. So once we get over seventeen, you know

818
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 5: it's not that key, but it is a key number.

819
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen seventeen halves out there on the board,

820
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: So I think the second we get done recording here

821
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: on Monday night, I'm gonna lay into the number for

822
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 5: one unit and see how it plays out this week.

823
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll play more later at eighteen nine team if

824
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: it steems that I don't think it's going to steam.

825
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: I think it's going to catch some action at some point.

826
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 5: But Arkansas should be focused in this game. They played

827
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 5: terrible in a lot of parts. But what I did

828
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 5: see against Texas A and m razorbacks move the ball

829
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 5: up and down the field. They had a ton of

830
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: drives get into scoring position just because Cam Little clips

831
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: the top of the you know, of the field goal posts,

832
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: and just because you know, kJ Jefferson thinks from four

833
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 5: yards out that he can jump like Michael Jordan in

834
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: a slam dunk competition and make it all the way

835
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: into the end zone. And then we're having handoffs, run

836
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 5: a touchdown back.

837
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: You know, I believe in that.

838
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 5: Seventy percent post game win expectancy for Arkansas. I don't

839
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: think the power I actually marked them up a half

840
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 5: point in my Power ratings. Yeah, so I'm going to

841
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 5: take Arkansas. I'll take the seventeen and Colin's hot. He

842
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 5: missed his first couple of Arkansas games.

843
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 3: He got one right, Yeah, I did.

844
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: The money line. Come on, get no more money line picks.

845
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: It's it's this right here, it's the it's the I

846
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: wore the net.

847
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: Rice the days change.

848
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: Did you buy a Harley my pick? This is dangerous.

849
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: I don't really consider it maction because it's played on

850
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: a Saturday, It's not played on a Tuesday night. I'm

851
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: going under Central Michigan Toledo under fifty nine. Stucky, You've

852
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 4: talked about this. Toledo's got one of the best defenses,

853
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: if not the best defense in the MAC. Because it's

854
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: conference play coming off some tough non conference games, I

855
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: think the points won't get up to the number. I'll

856
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: take under fifty nine for my one for the road.

857
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: And hey, guys, I.

858
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: Don't mind not either. Toledo's offensive line is destroyed within craft.

859
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: Well I like that, then like that even better. So

860
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: I hope to go to and Oh on my early picks.

861
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,520
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862
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,799
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867
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 4: Stucky you have plastic surgery or is that just his face?

868
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869
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,760
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Speaker 3: I have a face built for a podcast.

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Speaker 5: That's why we're It's the professional camera equipment that we

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Speaker 4: He's got a quality ring light. Love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's going to do it for us.

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Speaker 5: College Football Week five the new BCS Brett Colin Stucky,

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Speaker 5: a couple of picks for the road, a little bit

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Speaker 5: us next week, Chucky and I will be back at

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