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Speaker 1: On this episode of the News World. August twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, marked the third anniversary since we lost

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Speaker 1: thirteen American heroes in the cruel terrorist attack at Abby

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Speaker 1: Gate outside Kabbo's Hamid Karzai International Airport. Approximately one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy Afghan civilians were also murdered in that attack.

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Speaker 1: We will never forget the thirteen brave Americans, eleven Marines,

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Speaker 1: a soldier and a sailor who lost their lives defending

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Speaker 1: their team and helping to save tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: Afghans seeking freedom and the opportunity for a better life.

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Speaker 1: In the new film Culture War, The Deadly Consequences of

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Speaker 1: a Woke War Machine, the gold Star families of the

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Speaker 1: thirteen fallen service members talk about their experience and their loss.

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Speaker 1: Culture Wars, produced by American Principles Project, was released September third.

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Speaker 1: It is streaming now on ex YouTube and Rumble. Here

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Speaker 1: to talk about the new film, I'm really pleased to

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Speaker 1: welcome my guest, Christy Shamblin, mother in law of Sergeant

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Speaker 1: Nicole g who was one of the thirteen service members

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Speaker 1: killed in action in Kabbo, Afghanistan. On August twenty sixth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Christy, welcome and thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: me on News World.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for having me. I really

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is really important, and I know it's really

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Speaker 1: emotional and difficult, so I'm grateful you would take the time.

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Speaker 1: But maybe we could start by talking about how Nicole

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Speaker 1: came into your son's life, you know, when they first

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Speaker 1: met and how you first got to know her.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. My daughter in law, Nicole

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Speaker 2: was a superstar. She was everything you could ever hope for,

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Speaker 2: a wonderful human American young woman. Her and my son

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Speaker 2: went to high school together, and I kind of tongue

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Speaker 2: in cheap joke that they didn't really date in high

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Speaker 2: school because my son needed to step it up a

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Speaker 2: little bit. And so after high school they started dating

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Speaker 2: and quickly got engaged and married, and they both were

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Speaker 2: Marine Corps members, and they moved to North Carolina and

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Speaker 2: bought a home and started their life together. She was

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Speaker 2: the most motivating and encouraging human I've ever met, and

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Speaker 2: I consider her to be a blessing every day that

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Speaker 2: I spent with her.

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Speaker 3: I kind of.

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Speaker 2: Joke I won the daughter in law lottery and it's true.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing. I mean, she had a perfect attendance,

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Speaker 1: certified as bilingual in Spanish, and maintained honor role before

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Speaker 1: graduating in twenty sixteen with the four point one GPA.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: And she did that.

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Speaker 2: All while supporting herself from sixteen on.

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Speaker 3: Really Wow, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: She also in very good at time management.

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Speaker 2: She was very good at time management. She used to

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Speaker 1: Wow. So what made she and your son decide to

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Speaker 1: become marines?

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Speaker 2: My son joined first, and he was a recon marine.

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Speaker 2: He always was a little bit of an adventure spirit.

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Speaker 2: He likes adrenaline, and the Marine Corps and recon marine

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Speaker 2: fit right in with that.

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Speaker 3: He's also a quiet person.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like a lot of attention. And when he

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Speaker 2: joined and through boot camp and everything, I think that

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Speaker 2: Nicole saw the brotherhood that he was experiencing in the

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Speaker 2: Marine Corps, and she also wanted to make sure that

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Speaker 2: they were together. And once they knew that they would

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Speaker 2: be stationed near each other when they were married, you know,

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Speaker 2: she joined and she found her own sisterhood in the

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Speaker 2: Marine Corps. I think she I know that she enjoyed

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Speaker 2: her experience more in the Marine Corps than my son did.

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Speaker 3: I think she was going to make a life of it.

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Speaker 2: She thrived, she was a leader, and she loved her

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Speaker 1: I noticed that five days before she was killed, she

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Speaker 1: posted a photo with herself and a baby with the caption,

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Speaker 1: I love my job. I mean, that's really an amazing

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Speaker 2: It, Yes, sir, it is. It's shocking to think of

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Speaker 2: what they were experiencing there five days before this catastrophe.

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Speaker 3: It was help and we know that.

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Speaker 2: And she still took moments to have a positive mental

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Speaker 1: She must have been quite a daughter in law in

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Speaker 3: Oh, she was spectacular. Missed her very much.

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Speaker 1: I think for most of us, you make it real

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Speaker 1: wenty six was a tragic day. Can you walk us

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Speaker 2: Sure, I can only say that it was God's hand

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Speaker 2: Nichole's family lived in California, and my son and I

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Speaker 2: were together in their hometown of Roseville, California, on a

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Speaker 2: the night, you know after it happened, asking our location,

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Speaker 2: and a couple hours later we were met at our

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Speaker 2: hotel by our casualty coordinators. And I can say as

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Speaker 2: soon as the news hit that there were thirteen, my

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Speaker 2: you know, for a period of time, it just grew.

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Speaker 2: it was just surreal. And to know that there were thirteen,

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Speaker 2: a holy life for us.

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Speaker 1: Did somebody come from the military to personally tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had two wonderful young men who are the

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Speaker 2: casualty coordinators for the area we were in, and they

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Speaker 2: had the unfortunate job that night to come and notify us.

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Speaker 2: They have my respect and love forever. It's not a

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Speaker 1: When you think about it, how do you hope Nicole

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Speaker 2: As an encouraging, motivating force to know that you, as

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Speaker 2: your very person, just as you are, can be spectacular

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Speaker 2: and you can do the best you can do today

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Speaker 2: with exactly what you have in yourself. And that's what

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Speaker 2: she taught us every day. I hope with this evacuation

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Speaker 2: evacuation is casualty free. It's unacceptable that on our watch,

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Speaker 2: under our control, we lost thirteen service members. It's different

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Speaker 2: than losing them in war, and I hope that people

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Speaker 1: Did you feel that in the weeks afterwards you had

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Speaker 1: adequate support from the system. How were you treated?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to look back on that time because

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Speaker 2: that the people who helped us most were volunteer organizations, veterans.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people come out of the woodworks to really

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Speaker 3: It did not come from.

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Speaker 2: Our government officials in the beginning, minus the military. I

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Speaker 2: far as government officials, it was crickets until we started really,

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Speaker 1: Were you there in Delaware when the bodies were returned?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: I'm not military. My kids are, but I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I've never been under secured, tower guards and things like that.

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Speaker 2: It was something I can explain, and I hope nobody

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Speaker 2: listening or you know, I don't wish the experience on anybody.

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Speaker 2: The experience meeting President Biden was an eye opening one

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Speaker 3: Of shattered that.

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Speaker 1: Why was that.

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Speaker 3: This was three years.

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Speaker 2: Ago and he didn't seem altogether aware of his surroundings.

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Speaker 2: He repeated the same thing to the two families that

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Speaker 2: to us, it seemed like he was a well meaning

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Speaker 1: When President Biden called the withdrawal from Afghanistan an extraordinary

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Speaker 1: success and went on to say, quote, the extraordinary success

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Speaker 1: of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery,

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Speaker 1: diplomats and intelligence professionals. It seems to me from your standpoint,

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Speaker 1: how can you describe losing thirteen Americans as an extraordinary success?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? And not only that, but the supplies left behind.

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Speaker 2: We saw the Taliban's celebratory parade with all of our

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Speaker 3: This day deny was left behind, the.

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Speaker 2: Other Americans that were left behind, the Allied partners that

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Speaker 2: vetted every part of it. I can't, and we've asked

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Speaker 2: of how you can call this a success. I only

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Speaker 2: know my perspective. Please tell me how it could have

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Speaker 2: been a success from your perspective. And we've just never

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Speaker 1: I'm very confused by that because there's been three years

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Speaker 3: Nothing, zero crickets.

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Speaker 2: The first thing we've had is the post from Vice

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, that's frankly so surprising to me. I think

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Speaker 1: for the nation. I mean, that's what makes gold Star

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Speaker 1: How would you describe that difference?

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Speaker 2: Like night and day, we didn't reach out to former

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Speaker 2: reaching out to the White House. After the withdrawal was

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Speaker 2: called a success. We reached out and asked for a

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Speaker 2: call it a success. We heard nothing back, and when

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Speaker 2: do you want to come and meet with me in Bedminster?

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Speaker 2: And we accepted that invitation. You know, when we considered it,

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Speaker 2: was unexpected, and we said, well, what are the parameters?

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Speaker 2: And he said, I don't have any what are your parameters?

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Speaker 3: And so that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: What was that visit like, I mean, was it just

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Speaker 2: our loved ones, but we ended up spending hours with him.

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Speaker 2: When he walked in the room, he knew our hero's names,

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