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Speaker 2: It's the final hour on this Tuesday Dan and The
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Speaker 2: Dylan's in for Seaton for one more day. Marvin Paully,
Speaker 2: yours truly, Lewis Riddick from the mother Ship. He'll join
Speaker 2: us coming up and we'll try to make sense of
Speaker 2: what's happened over the last forty eight hours. And finally,
Speaker 2: the quarterbacking news we have been waiting to tell you about.
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is going to the Colts.
Speaker 3: Hesitator pause for dramatic effect.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he's going as a backup, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: guess Daniel Jones probably thinks this should be an open
Speaker 2: competition with Anthony Richardson. This might be another chance to
Speaker 2: be the starter in the NFL. Anthony Richardson kind of
Speaker 2: hit or miss. He's still young, what twenty two, but
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones bones is not exactly old. But Daniel Jones
Speaker 2: feels like he's been around too long, but getting an
Speaker 2: opportunity after what happened when he got released from the Giants,
Speaker 2: went to Minnesota, sat there. Now you're going to get
Speaker 2: a chance to probably compete, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Early pick for comeback Player of the Year, Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3: You want to take him? You got him? I mean, okay,
Speaker 3: that's your guy. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: The Eagles have traded their cornerback CJ. Gardner Johnson to
Speaker 2: the Texans. They got an offensive lineman, Kenyon Green. This
Speaker 2: according to Ian Rapaport. So this just happened here. But hm, CJ.
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson, he's good. So the text, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: understand what the Texans are doing. They got draft picks
Speaker 2: Laramie Tunzell went to Washington, and now you get a
Speaker 2: defensive back and then you trade an offensive lineman. I
Speaker 2: hope you're getting some offensive considering you gave up the
Speaker 2: second most sacks in the NFL last year.
Speaker 3: I hope you're.
Speaker 2: Getting some offensive lineman in the draft. You know, you
Speaker 2: may it may not seem like you had five offensive
Speaker 2: linemen last year, but you have to have five offensive
Speaker 2: linemen just for each play. You have to have five
Speaker 2: offensive linemen, all right, eight seven to seven three DP
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Speaker 3: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: We played the Cooper Flag game last hour. Or had
Speaker 2: to do with the acc of being Freshman of the
Speaker 2: Year and also being the player of the year in
Speaker 2: the ACC. And there have been three other players. All
Speaker 2: three were at Duke. You had Zion, you had Jalil
Speaker 2: okafor and Marvin Bagley Junior the third Wow and Cooper Fleck.
Speaker 2: All right, here's the question, trivia question. And somebody asked
Speaker 2: me this question over the weekend. The last time a
Speaker 2: white player was taken number one overall who was born
Speaker 2: in the United States, so not European number one pick
Speaker 2: over all in the draft.
Speaker 3: Marvin, I'll start with you.
Speaker 4: I gotta go ways back.
Speaker 5: Bill Walton, right, Paully, I went piece by piece Kent
Speaker 5: Benson out of Indiana, as my guess, Todd.
Speaker 6: Dan Issel, Okay, I'm going Bill Walton tif all right,
Speaker 6: it is Kent Benson by the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 3: And that was the year. That was what.
Speaker 2: Let me see, Walton would have been seventy four, Kent
Speaker 2: Benson might have been seventy seven, correct, seventy seven because
Speaker 2: they had that was a great team with Scott May
Speaker 2: Quinn Buckner. The last team to go undefeated. What seventy
Speaker 2: six Indiana Hoosiers with Bob nine that Kent Benson went
Speaker 2: to Milwaukee. Probably most famous for getting in a fight
Speaker 2: with Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Benson. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 2: what precipitated this, but it looked like Benson elbowed Kareem
Speaker 2: and then Kareem ended up punching him. Dennis Autry, I believe,
Speaker 2: is another player who got into a fight with Kareem
Speaker 2: early in Kareem's career, trying to rough him up.
Speaker 3: Yes, Bully.
Speaker 5: A couple players taken in the seventy seven draft after
Speaker 5: Kent Benson, which is everybody, by the way, Jack Sikma,
Speaker 5: Bernard King, New Jersey Nets, Ernie Grunfeld, and some other
Speaker 5: good player.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Ernie Grunfeld played with Bernard King of his Ernie
Speaker 2: and Bernie or Bernie and Ernie at Tennessee. So he
Speaker 2: had two New York guys who somehow made it to Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Back then. You know, there are.
Speaker 2: Moves now where I'm removed from it. Back then, I
Speaker 2: didn't think anything of it. When I'm young, I'm like,
Speaker 2: of course, you know, the best player in New York's
Speaker 2: going to end up in Los Angeles. That Luel Sindor
Speaker 2: would leave New York City and he would go out
Speaker 2: to UCLA, And then all of a sudden you find
Speaker 2: out that there was a sugar daddy at UCLA who
Speaker 2: happened to guide some players there for coach Wooden. And
Speaker 2: then you know Ernie Grunfeld and Bernard King, I believe both.
Speaker 2: I know Bernard was from New York. I think Ernie
Speaker 2: was from New York as well. But they ended up
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. Things that make you go hm now, But
Speaker 2: back then you're like, oh, wow, they got that guy.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, And it's not even like he was North Carolina.
Speaker 4: Do Kentucky one of those blue bloods? Yeah, not to
Speaker 4: Tennessee basketball. But I'm not thinking if I'm a top
Speaker 4: rated prospect from Brooklyn, I'm going to Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't think so.
Speaker 2: But South Carolina used to have this pipeline from New
Speaker 2: York City players. Frank Maguire when he coached at South Carolina,
Speaker 2: and this going back a long time, but he would
Speaker 2: always get New York players to play in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they were offering.
Speaker 2: Back then, Kentucky would always get some Kentucky based players,
Speaker 2: but then they would get some players where they weren't
Speaker 2: necessarily from Kentucky. But Kentucky was spending money whether you
Speaker 2: were local or not. But you know, Kentucky basketball, there's
Speaker 2: so many great prospects, or at least there used to
Speaker 2: be that they could just keep them in a house,
Speaker 2: you know, like Daryl Griffith, doctor Dunkenstein. You know he
Speaker 2: was from Louisville, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think that's the case with most top programs.
Speaker 4: Kansas is a great program, but I bet a ton
Speaker 4: of those guys aren't from Kansas in Missouri. They're from
Speaker 4: all over the country. Chicago to Kansas had a great pipeline. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it would always be like, who's the best play in Chicago?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but he's going.
Speaker 3: To Kansas, all right.
Speaker 2: Poll question for the final hour of the program, There, Dylan,
Speaker 2: where in your is that Tampa Bay Lightning sweater?
Speaker 7: This is actually Tampa Bay Airport sweater. Dan, this has
Speaker 7: just wrapping the city of Tampa.
Speaker 5: Like the twenty dollars sweatshirts on the way back.
Speaker 3: There's actually two for thirty five.
Speaker 2: I thought that that had to do with Tampa, like
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay sports team, not just.
Speaker 7: A fan of the city.
Speaker 3: It looks really good, I know.
Speaker 8: For an airport.
Speaker 3: Yeah, junk, not that right. Yeah it looks nice.
Speaker 7: It's got like the college lettering. Yeah, it looks to
Speaker 7: be University of Tampa.
Speaker 3: Yes it does. It looks very nice. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Poll question for the final hour of the program, Well, we.
Speaker 7: Could switch it up a little bit, Dan with the
Speaker 7: Garrett Cole situation. Man, I know we touched on it,
Speaker 7: but would you sign a hard throwing starting pitcher to
Speaker 7: an ex defensive long term deal?
Speaker 2: No, yes, sir, no, And this isn't revisionist history, and
Speaker 2: it is a loaded question.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: I just can't not the way they pitch now and
Speaker 2: a power pitcher, I can't it. Just I think it's stupid.
Speaker 2: And they, you know, the Yankees are going to be
Speaker 2: without Garrick Cole. Now they may say, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: we've had some good years with him. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: he's been a cy young winner. He won two games
Speaker 2: in the World Series. But and you're that ten year,
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty or three hundred million dollars. I
Speaker 2: just can't do it. I don't even want to do
Speaker 2: it with a hitter. I just too many things can
Speaker 2: go wrong. You know, five years would be my max.
Speaker 2: Now I might be a terrible GM and out of
Speaker 2: a job, but I just think there are too many
Speaker 2: ebbs and flows. There's too many flukey things that can happen,
Speaker 2: especially a pitcher. What's the what's the content track with
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole.
Speaker 5: Over the next four years? The New York Yankees old
Speaker 5: Garrett Cole one hundred and fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, that one's not as stupid as gian
Speaker 2: Carlo Stanton. When they signed him, I go, boy, you
Speaker 2: desperate because that guy can't play. I mean he can
Speaker 2: hit a home run, but he can't do anything, can't
Speaker 2: stay healthy, can't put him in the field. And I
Speaker 2: think he's injured again to start spring training. How do
Speaker 2: you get injured going into spring training?
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 5: In seven seasons with the Yankees, Giancarlo gean Carlo Stanton
Speaker 5: has made one All Star Game whilst making two hundred
Speaker 5: million dollars. Yeah, and he has another. He's got another
Speaker 5: one thirty on the way.
Speaker 3: It's terrible stat of whoa, whoa. That's stead of the
Speaker 3: day stead of the day. Here comes here comes that
Speaker 3: what stat.
Speaker 6: Of the day?
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Speaker 2: up tonight. Sam Darnold going to Seattle. His thirty five
Speaker 2: touchdown passes with the Vikings are the most by a
Speaker 2: player who then changed teams in the.
Speaker 3: Off season, topping blank Paul.
Speaker 2: This guy had the most touchdown passes and then the
Speaker 2: following season was with another team. Okay, Sam Darnold had
Speaker 2: thirty five, surpassing this player, Paul Brett Farv No good guess,
Speaker 2: Marvin Warren Moon, no, Todd.
Speaker 3: Warner, no.
Speaker 7: Dylan Ben Roethlisberger no what near the question eleven was eleven?
Speaker 7: I tried to do one better than eleven, which is
Speaker 7: Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: And he never played for another team, but okay, I
Speaker 2: mean he played quarterback, though he did, he played.
Speaker 3: I heard was quarterbacks being listed.
Speaker 2: You are, you're repping the back row quite well, you're
Speaker 2: imitating Fritzie.
Speaker 3: I'm a continuity guy there.
Speaker 2: Okay, here you go. This guy is one of our
Speaker 2: favorites in a good way, in a bad way. Say
Speaker 2: hello to Jamis Winston. Everybody. Oh remember he was the
Speaker 2: thirty thirty club. He had thirty three touchdown passes and
Speaker 2: thirty interceptions. Someone's catching a test and he went from
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers to the Saints in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Day day today, This is the style of the day.
Speaker 2: By the way, today is the anniversary of one of
Speaker 2: the more impactful, revolutionary, controversial, still controversial rules.
Speaker 3: Anybody want to take a guess.
Speaker 2: I don't want to give you the time period, but
Speaker 2: it is the anniversary of, I believe, the first time
Speaker 2: that this rule was implemented. If you want to call
Speaker 2: it a rule, yeah, Pauline, I know I'm wrong the
Speaker 2: shot clock, You're wrong. It's instant replay. Nineteen eighty six
Speaker 2: was the first time it was used. Has it been
Speaker 2: a good thing? Has replay been a good thing?
Speaker 3: Marvin?
Speaker 4: Yes, all except the des Bryn and catch it's been great.
Speaker 2: Okay, Todd, do you think instant replay has been well?
Speaker 2: Replay has been a good thing, yes, okay, Dylan, don't say.
Speaker 7: Ben Roethlisberger, Ben, Now, I think it's a necessary evil,
Speaker 7: but it has flaws.
Speaker 5: I'd say it's been mostly bad. It made us litigious
Speaker 5: sports fans watching from minute to minute.
Speaker 3: You would rather have something that you think you saw.
Speaker 5: If I could go back and do a do over,
Speaker 5: I would say, no replay m and let it, let
Speaker 5: it happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 5: Think I think the majority would go with that.
Speaker 3: You still have to get it right, yeah, but.
Speaker 5: I think people love the human element and they think
Speaker 5: it'll balance that balance itself out.
Speaker 2: You get a couple, you lose a couple. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't want the human elephant. That might be the human elephant.
Speaker 5: I would say the viewing experience has been hurt because
Speaker 5: of the delays. It adds drama sometimes and you're like,
Speaker 5: look at the replay and you're screaming at the TV.
Speaker 4: So that helps to.
Speaker 2: I think it's a I agree, it's a necessary evil.
Speaker 2: It's entertainment. It's it's impacted a lot of games, a
Speaker 2: lot of sports. The fact that you know, when we
Speaker 2: didn't have it, we didn't know what we didn't have,
Speaker 2: and then you realize it and you're like, how many
Speaker 2: how many moments in sports history would have been changed
Speaker 2: if you had replay. Now, everybody's going to go back
Speaker 2: to the immaculate reception. Instant replay wouldn't have changed. They
Speaker 2: wouldn't have overruled that the call on the field would
Speaker 2: have stood because you still can't tell when you watch that.
Speaker 2: But I think for the most part, it's been a
Speaker 2: it's been a good ish thing for sports. Be weird
Speaker 2: to not have replay watching again. Let me get to
Speaker 2: Andrew and Washington. Then we'll take a break. We'll talk to.
Speaker 3: Let's see Lewis Riddick from the mothership. It's going to
Speaker 3: stop by.
Speaker 9: Hey, Andrew, good morning, Dan's thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9: Just had a little thing on the Lakers. I think
Speaker 9: leg groin is good for the Lakers. I disagree with Marv.
Speaker 9: We agree with Paulie. You can't prove a stream growing
Speaker 9: sort of like a stomach flu, and so it gives
Speaker 9: him a little bit of rest before the playoff push.
Speaker 9: I don't think it matters where we go. I think
Speaker 9: the Lakers will end up in the finals, as far
Speaker 9: as whatever they're seating is in the playoffs. I do
Speaker 9: have a NFL draft tied to the face bet with Paulie.
Speaker 9: We've done this two or three years. My bet if
Speaker 9: Polly wants to take it is that more running backs
Speaker 9: will be taken in the first round than quarterbacks. And
Speaker 9: if there's a tie, we both take a pie.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 2: Right now, it feels like there's two quarterbacks that you
Speaker 2: can pencil in first round and two running backs right now.
Speaker 3: So Andrew, are you taking running backs?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 9: I think there'll be more running backs than quarterbacks taken
Speaker 9: in the first round of this year NFL draft.
Speaker 3: All right, Paul, I will take that.
Speaker 5: I think he's riding the wave of running back too high.
Speaker 5: There may be two. I think someone's gonna jump back
Speaker 5: into the first round and draft Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2: But just so you know, if you tie I, I goes
Speaker 2: to the runner. I goes no, Ty goes to the pie.
Speaker 2: You both get pies. So I have to win to
Speaker 2: unpie myself.
Speaker 3: Yes you do.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the weather is nice and a
Speaker 2: front row and a back row guy have pies. I
Speaker 2: think Friday we should we should do that. Pie equals
Speaker 2: you two squared. Okay, see what I did with that,
Speaker 2: Todd very Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: Weather permitting.
Speaker 3: Okay, Paul, what's the forecast for Friday?
Speaker 5: You said the over under was forty nine and a
Speaker 5: half degrees. Yeah, for pie weather. Yes, high a fifty
Speaker 5: one on Friday. Yes, Yes, it's going to be pie Day.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do this on pie Dick.
Speaker 3: See if I did. It's a meat a meat pie Dick.
Speaker 2: What Marvin, it's fifty degrees Yeah, I said forty nine
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 4: That's not warm enough for no podca it is no
Speaker 4: come on, Oh I'm soft.
Speaker 3: Yes you are.
Speaker 4: Yes, you don't get an argument.
Speaker 3: I'm going a polar plunge. It's a pile to the face. Yes, Dylan, what.
Speaker 7: If Marvin's allowed to sit in his car and crank.
Speaker 5: The heat and he takes the pie and there you
Speaker 5: would like you'd like to do it nice recovery down.
Speaker 3: Yes, we can do that.
Speaker 2: I'm in all right, So pie to the pie to
Speaker 2: the face on Friday, Dodd, let's do it. Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: take a break. We'll talk to Lewis Riddick the mother Ship.
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Speaker 2: I watched a little bit of Yukon women be Creton
Speaker 2: in the Big East Tournament championship game page Becker's twenty
Speaker 2: four points. I don't think Paige Becker's ever lost a
Speaker 2: conference game in her career. I believe she went sixty
Speaker 2: six and oh against competition in the Big East.
Speaker 3: Marvin, you might check that.
Speaker 2: Being a Yukon Husky fan, I'm gonna check that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think she went sixty six and oh against the
Speaker 2: Big East.
Speaker 3: All Right, more phone calls coming up.
Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick for the Mothership ESPN College Football, NFL analyst
Speaker 2: and a former front office executive with the Eagles and
Speaker 2: Washington All right, Instant replay came into our world on
Speaker 2: this day in nineteen eighty six. Has instant replay been
Speaker 2: good for sports or bad?
Speaker 8: Look?
Speaker 12: I think it's been both. And I know that sounded
Speaker 12: like a little bit of a cop out, right. I
Speaker 12: think you you want to maintain as much of the
Speaker 12: human element the game as possible. You don't want to
Speaker 12: slow it down too much. You don't want to have
Speaker 12: it be a constant barade of replays. But you know what,
Speaker 12: when there are game changing plays games, I mean, plays
Speaker 12: that can really just really substantially affect the outcome, and
Speaker 12: you know that they are blatantly missed. I think that's
Speaker 12: when replay, when it gets it right in those kinds
Speaker 12: of situations, I think that's good for the game because
Speaker 12: I think ultimately that's what we all want. We want
Speaker 12: to you know, we want the right teams to win
Speaker 12: by abiding by the rules and the teams to be
Speaker 12: punished that.
Speaker 8: Don't abide by the rules.
Speaker 12: So it's you're never Dan, I don't think you're ever
Speaker 12: going to have like one hundred percent consensus of whether
Speaker 12: or not replay is good good for the game or not,
Speaker 12: because as soon as you start there's too many replays,
Speaker 12: people start complaining about the fact that it's slowing down
Speaker 12: the game, and you know what.
Speaker 8: Just let the refs ref. And then as soon as
Speaker 8: ref's miss and as soon as the refs miss a call,
Speaker 8: it's like, which which league.
Speaker 12: Do the ref suck more? Is it an NBA or
Speaker 12: is it the NFL? Is it the script after these
Speaker 12: games rigged? Is Grogoral Goodell trying to protect Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 12: blah blah blah. No one's ever happy. That's kind of
Speaker 12: like the world we live in right now.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was always bothered it came in as instant replay.
Speaker 2: Then they changed it to replay because it was an
Speaker 2: instant So that was one of my big problems. All right,
Speaker 2: let me you. You worked in two front offices. You
Speaker 2: worked with the Eagles in Washington. I'm going to put
Speaker 2: you in the Steelers' front office. Yeah, you decide who's
Speaker 2: going to be your quarterback Between Russell Wilson Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 12: I would look, I would I would go with with
Speaker 12: Aaron because I said all along, I believe the organization
Speaker 12: needs him. He needs this kind of organization. I think
Speaker 12: at this point in his career. What's my rationale for that?
Speaker 12: Why do they need him?
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh needs to level up somehow, some way at quarterback.
Speaker 8: They just do. They have been stuck in this kind
Speaker 8: of like mid range, mid tier.
Speaker 12: Mode of operating at that position and figured as though
Speaker 12: Michael Tomlin could coach his way around and the defense
Speaker 12: could create enough turnovers to get around, that they could
Speaker 12: run the ball well enough to get around, that they
Speaker 12: could play renegade enough to where they would create some
Speaker 12: kind of magic in the stadium and that would be enough.
Speaker 8: And it's not enough.
Speaker 12: They've got to level up somehow, and that's either through veteran,
Speaker 12: the veteran market, or the draft where they're drafting right now.
Speaker 12: Is it possible for them to still get someone late
Speaker 12: in the first round that could wind up helping them
Speaker 12: at the position. Yeah, I believe that there is. But
Speaker 12: when we're just talking about free agency, Aaron levels up
Speaker 12: for them. He just does with his knowledge, which I would.
Speaker 12: I still think he has left in the gas tank
Speaker 12: as far as his ability to play the game and
Speaker 12: how he could help this offense, in particular the passing
Speaker 12: game become more dynamic. He will need to abide by
Speaker 12: a much more rigid structure in Pittsburgh and not think
Speaker 12: that he can come in there and bring in all
Speaker 12: of his buddies bringing got you there, and pick and
Speaker 12: pick his offensive coordinator and call the plays that he
Speaker 12: wants all the time and like basically run the show.
Speaker 12: He's not running the show and he doesn't really need
Speaker 12: to at this point, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't entrust
Speaker 12: him to do that anyway, And Mike's not gonna let
Speaker 12: him do that, and Arthur Smith's not gonna let him
Speaker 12: do that. So I think he needs to just focus
Speaker 12: on playing ball, coming back the second year off of
Speaker 12: this Achilles and actually going out the way he wants
Speaker 12: to go out and have people look at him the
Speaker 12: way he wants people to look at him. Pittsburgh needs
Speaker 12: the level up. So yeah, I think it's a I
Speaker 12: think it's a good combination on the surface. Now, we
Speaker 12: don't know how Mike feels about that. We don't know
Speaker 12: how Arthur Smith feels about that. We don't know how
Speaker 12: DK Metcalf and George Pickens are going to react Aaron
Speaker 12: Rodgers getting in their rear.
Speaker 8: End about not doing things the right way.
Speaker 12: There's a lot of things that still would have to
Speaker 12: be worked out, but that's that's the same thing is
Speaker 12: true with every free agent transaction.
Speaker 8: There's always going to be things to work out.
Speaker 2: But then, does Russ in the Game of Musical Chairs
Speaker 2: end up with the Giants?
Speaker 8: Probably? He probably does.
Speaker 12: And you know what I think, Look, I think both
Speaker 12: of these guys at this point in time in their
Speaker 12: career are bridge players. It's just a matter of whether
Speaker 12: or not that's a one year bridge or a multiple
Speaker 12: year bridge. In Pittsburgh, it could be a multiple year
Speaker 12: bridge for Aaron because they don't have a they're not
Speaker 12: really in position to get what we would term as
Speaker 12: a surefire long term solution given where they're drafting. So
Speaker 12: he may be going into he can be possibly going
Speaker 12: into a situation there where he could extend this thing
Speaker 12: to two, maybe.
Speaker 8: Three years, if he wanted to play that long.
Speaker 12: If you're in, if you're in New York, you know
Speaker 12: for sure, Russell Wilson, that being Russell Wilson knows for
Speaker 12: sure that as soon as he walks in there, he's
Speaker 12: already on the clock. They're already thinking about what the
Speaker 12: next option is. Then it may be this year, who knows,
Speaker 12: but they may think, Hey, you know what, we'll sit pat,
Speaker 12: We'll play with Russ for a year, We'll draft Travis Spunter.
Speaker 8: Maybe we'll move down, who knows.
Speaker 12: Maybe we'll accumulate some more picks and continue to try
Speaker 12: and build out this roster, which is you know what,
Speaker 12: I'll tell you what I know. It sounds like I'm
Speaker 12: gonna be ranting here a little bit, but that that's
Speaker 12: probably one of the most annoying things for me to
Speaker 12: hear at this time of year, all the times.
Speaker 8: Let's trade down and get more picks.
Speaker 12: And build up the roster, and then just plug in
Speaker 12: the quarterback like you need to pick one off of
Speaker 12: my grandma's cherry tree and plug him in there. But
Speaker 12: that may be what they're thinking. I don't know if
Speaker 12: I'm Joe Shane right now, though I'm Brian Daball. I'm
Speaker 12: thinking I need to win some games, man, and I
Speaker 12: need to win.
Speaker 8: Them this year.
Speaker 12: So that's what makes this time of year so fun
Speaker 12: to see how these teams ultimately wind up constructing the roster,
Speaker 12: who they getting, and how it pans out.
Speaker 8: In New York.
Speaker 12: There's gonna be no team you talk about more next
Speaker 12: year than the Giants, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And we have a bet on the show the uh
Speaker 2: will there be more running backs than quarterbacks?
Speaker 3: Taken in the first.
Speaker 8: Guys talking about that?
Speaker 3: All right, that's a good one. What do you think I.
Speaker 8: Think it will be running backs?
Speaker 12: Months ago of GM who I respect, A Ton said, look,
Speaker 12: this is the best year I've seen for running backs
Speaker 12: since I've been a general manager. He's been a general
Speaker 12: manager for a little bit now, and he's someone who
Speaker 12: really does do a good job of evalue waiting that
Speaker 12: position in particular. And I agree, I've seen a bunch
Speaker 12: of these guys in person this year, and when you
Speaker 12: start watching the tape, you have guys who are big, strong,
Speaker 12: powerful dudes, and you've got some guys who are kind
Speaker 12: of like Jamier Gives. I don't want to say scatback
Speaker 12: type dudes, but guys were real electric in terms of
Speaker 12: their ability to stop starting go seventy eighty on you.
Speaker 12: And even the big dudes can do that. I mean,
Speaker 12: you look at a Marion Hampton, you start thinking Joe Mixon.
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm sitting there watching him, and I'm going, Damn,
Speaker 12: is that Joe Mixon in a North Carolina uniform? And
Speaker 12: then you look at Ashton and I'm telling you people,
Speaker 12: you know, people think I'm crazy.
Speaker 8: I'm going, that's EMITTT. Smith with better speed. That's what
Speaker 8: it is. That's what that is.
Speaker 12: Now watch Brashard Smith from SMU. I'm sitting there going,
Speaker 12: if that ain't Engineer Gibbs, I don't know who is.
Speaker 12: There's all kinds, man, there's all kinds. And if you
Speaker 12: need if you're if you need it back this year,
Speaker 12: I mean you may not take him in the top ten,
Speaker 12: top fifteen, although I think Ashton deserves to.
Speaker 8: Go that high.
Speaker 12: I think you will see This will be a heavy
Speaker 12: year for backs going in the first round, top of
Speaker 12: a second for sure, and once that run starts, there's
Speaker 12: gonna be people just picking them off.
Speaker 8: For sure.
Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick part of ESPN's ongoing NFL free agent coverage.
Speaker 2: You can catch him with Adam Schefter and more today
Speaker 2: on ESPN from three until five. You're sold on cam
Speaker 2: Ward going as the number one, number one quarterback? Are
Speaker 2: you sold that Shador Sanders is a first round quarterback?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 12: I am top fifteen, he's a top half of the
Speaker 12: first round.
Speaker 8: Okay, he's a top half.
Speaker 2: But where where is this negativity coming from? And I
Speaker 2: like it's on the field and then a little bit
Speaker 2: off the field with how he interviewed with one coach
Speaker 2: at the combine, it feels like it was a smear
Speaker 2: campaign because once it happened that all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's boom, everybody kind of jumped on this.
Speaker 12: Why of course, Look, they've been trying to people have
Speaker 12: been at this game, so to speak, of trying to
Speaker 12: talk certain prospects down for years.
Speaker 8: Dion is a lightning rod. That's where it starts. It
Speaker 8: doesn't even start with Shador.
Speaker 12: This is about this starts with his father, and then
Speaker 12: it just trickles down to him, and it starts with
Speaker 12: his father. It's been that way since I played with
Speaker 12: Deon back in nineteen ninety two in Atlanta. People don't
Speaker 12: like flashy guys like that who can back it up.
Speaker 8: They just don't. They don't like people who are strong, confident.
Speaker 12: There you know, it's funny, like we love it, but
Speaker 12: then with some people we don't. Let With Dion, he's
Speaker 12: always been a polarizing player to the people.
Speaker 8: Who don't know him.
Speaker 12: If you know him personally, you would be like, I
Speaker 12: get it and I love it, Give me.
Speaker 8: More of it. With Shador, he has some of his
Speaker 8: father in him. There's no question. How could he not.
Speaker 8: He's the man.
Speaker 12: I mean, he's the man's son, and so a lot
Speaker 12: of it comes from who he is and what his
Speaker 12: last name is. Now, as far as him individually, why
Speaker 12: do they pick at him on the field.
Speaker 8: Does he have cam Ward's arm?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 12: Do you need cam Ward's arm? Do you need John
Speaker 12: Elway's arm? Do you need Josh Allen's arm in order
Speaker 12: to play high level winning football in the NFL. No,
Speaker 12: But at this time of year, we always fall back
Speaker 12: to those baseline, those baseline levels in terms of like
Speaker 12: evaluating quarterbacks and saying, well, if you don't have a
Speaker 12: rocket army, you can't play. If you don't run for
Speaker 12: like Lamar and can create outside of structure and throw
Speaker 12: the ball and switch it to your left hand like
Speaker 12: Patrick Mahomes, you can't play.
Speaker 8: You're either a.
Speaker 12: Hall of Famer or you suck. And that's what it
Speaker 12: always comes down to this time of your quarterbacks. There
Speaker 12: is no in between, and that quite honestly, I think
Speaker 12: that that discussion stems from the fact that I don't
Speaker 12: know if people really ever know what the hell they
Speaker 12: really think about quarterbacks because it's such a dependent position
Speaker 12: and it's so hard to get your arms around it.
Speaker 8: Shador is very smart. He can process like hell.
Speaker 12: He's a good leader, he's got good feet in the pocket,
Speaker 12: he throws a great ball, he has a lot of anticipation.
Speaker 8: And he's tough as hell. He got the crap bait
Speaker 8: at him in at Colorado.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I was at games and calling games where I'm
Speaker 12: sitting there looking at Dion, who is like pleading with
Speaker 12: this on throw the ball away, or pleading with offensive coordinator,
Speaker 12: run the ball. My son's getting murdered out here. He'll
Speaker 12: be fine.
Speaker 3: They'll be just Daniel Jones just signed with the Colts.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is he going in thinking he gets to compete for
Speaker 2: that job?
Speaker 8: There's no question.
Speaker 12: I mean, why else would you switch teams at this
Speaker 12: point considering what you have in Minnesota in terms of
Speaker 12: the weapons that they have, the coaching staff. And I'm
Speaker 12: not taking anything away from Shane Stichen because a lot
Speaker 12: of respect for shame. Daniel Jones is looking for an
Speaker 12: opportunity to really compete, to play, and you're not going
Speaker 12: to tell me otherwise that The people in Indianapolis didn't
Speaker 12: tell him that you are going to have a chance
Speaker 12: to compete. We want somebody to push Anthony and if
Speaker 12: you beat him out, you beat him out, simple as that.
Speaker 12: That isn't happening in Minnesota. They are trying to get
Speaker 12: JJ ready to play this year. They're not going to
Speaker 12: force it, but they're trying to get him ready to play.
Speaker 12: The way he looked the last offseason and the way
Speaker 12: he looked in the first preseason game against the Raiders
Speaker 12: told you this kid's developmental arc is going to go
Speaker 12: straight up. There's a reason why they drafted him tenth. Overall,
Speaker 12: it reminds me a little bit of the way Kansas
Speaker 12: City was trying to bring along Patrick when they had
Speaker 12: Alex Smith there. The only thing that derailed things is
Speaker 12: that he got hurt, is that JJ got hurt. Daniel
Speaker 12: knows that he was there every day. He knows how
Speaker 12: they feel about him. He knows he doesn't really have
Speaker 12: a chance to start there. If JJ's kne's fine, it's over.
Speaker 12: That's why he went to Indy. And if I'm Anthony
Speaker 12: Richardson right now, what I'm really interested to see is
Speaker 12: how he responds Dan to this.
Speaker 8: How does he respond? It's gonna be I hate it
Speaker 8: for the kid.
Speaker 12: It's gonna be so hard for him to ever shake
Speaker 12: the stigma that's gonna follow him, the story that's gonna
Speaker 12: follow him because of that one decision he made down
Speaker 12: there in Houston.
Speaker 3: How many years did you play defensive back?
Speaker 8: Seven? Okay? How many?
Speaker 2: Give me the number of quarterbacks that actually made you nervous.
Speaker 2: I don't want to stay scared.
Speaker 3: You can say scared. Who scared you? When you go,
Speaker 3: oh my god, we're playing him.
Speaker 8: John Elway.
Speaker 12: Because he had ted with him, had Rod Smith had
Speaker 12: shining sharp offensive line had Tom Nalan, Mark Schlair, Dan
Speaker 12: neil Tony Jones, and that that play action passing game
Speaker 12: was just so ridiculously good. That was a year the
Speaker 12: TV went for two thousand and it was just like
Speaker 12: as a safety, I was like, I know, I got
Speaker 12: to get up here and support this run because when
Speaker 12: this guy starts going downhill, it's over. And these linemen
Speaker 12: start getting up on it's over. And I did that
Speaker 12: one time early in the game in l Way pulled
Speaker 12: that thing out of there and launched it. And I'm
Speaker 12: telling you, in mid play, you can tell I can
Speaker 12: tell you. You can already guess the words that were
Speaker 12: coming out of my mouth. Oh oh yeah, all of them,
Speaker 12: f words everything.
Speaker 8: The thing.
Speaker 12: The only thing that saved me, honestly was Charles Woodson
Speaker 12: was the corner and he broke the play up and
Speaker 12: I remember jogging back to the huddle and I was like,
Speaker 12: and he was like, hey, you know, but yeah, l
Speaker 12: Way Marino, I got to play against Danny when he
Speaker 12: was uh, when he had Mark Duper and Mark Clayton
Speaker 12: and Keith Jackson and those guys down in Miami. He
Speaker 12: came out first play of the game. He comes out
Speaker 12: and you stand there at the line and he looks
Speaker 12: at me and he winked, and I went, what does
Speaker 12: that mean?
Speaker 8: Does he mean? Does that mean I found my guy?
Speaker 8: What does that mean? You know, hail the Pitt?
Speaker 11: What does that mean?
Speaker 8: Man? So yeah, those dudes were Steve.
Speaker 12: Oh you know what I would be It would be
Speaker 12: disrespectful for me to dismiss Steve Young Steve when he
Speaker 12: was when they were in San Francisco, I played against
Speaker 12: him when I was in when I was in Atlanta,
Speaker 12: and when I was in Cleveland. They had it rolling
Speaker 12: at that time, Dan, I mean, they had it rolling.
Speaker 12: Steve was so mobile and so fast, and Brent Jones
Speaker 12: was so crappy, and they had Jerry and they had
Speaker 12: John Taylor and Ricky Waters and I mean it was
Speaker 12: a come on, this isn't fair. It's not fair. So yeah,
Speaker 12: I got to play against some great ones.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 12: I mean so much respect for those guys. Were you
Speaker 12: literally were like I can't make a mistake.
Speaker 8: I can't.
Speaker 12: And even if you and even if you were perfect,
Speaker 12: sometimes it just didn't matter.
Speaker 3: Always great to spend time.
Speaker 2: I know it's a busy time for you, but thanks
Speaker 2: for carving out of course, a few minutes, Buddy always man.
Speaker 8: Thanks.
Speaker 2: That's Lewis Riddick of the Mothership NFL Free Agency coverage
Speaker 2: on ESPN. That'll be later today from three until five.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls, what
Speaker 2: we learn, what's in store for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six
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Speaker 1: Last call for phone calls, What we learned, what's in
Speaker 1: store tomorrow?
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 2: On the way, DraftKings has the updated Super Bowl odds.
Speaker 2: It is the Eagles the favorites, followed by Chiefs, Bills.
Speaker 3: And Ravens, and then the Lions.
Speaker 2: So Eagles be a slight favorite over the Chiefs, Bills,
Speaker 2: and Ravens and the Lions according to DraftKings. By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Sam Donald contract. The real value
Speaker 2: is the guaranteed money. It's fifty five million, So essentially
Speaker 2: Seattle was committed to Sam Donald for two years, an
Speaker 2: average of twenty seven and a half million per year.
Speaker 2: Very reasonable and today's you know, quarterback market, that's very reasonable.
Speaker 2: And I think Sam Donald realized if I want to
Speaker 2: continue to be a starter in the NFL. I have
Speaker 2: to temper the expectation, financial expectations.
Speaker 3: I might have.
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones signed a one year deal for fourteen million
Speaker 2: dollars with the Colts.
Speaker 3: That doesn't feel backup.
Speaker 2: If fourteen million dollars, I think he's going in there
Speaker 2: thinking I have a real chance to be the starting
Speaker 2: quarterback here.
Speaker 3: But that just happened.
Speaker 2: Also took another option off the table for Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: even though we hadn't heard much about the Colts. With
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, feels like it's Pittsburgh unless they don't want him,
Speaker 2: and then it would probably be the Giants. Let me see,
Speaker 2: how about this day in sports history? I gave you
Speaker 2: one earlier nineteen eighty six. The NFL adopts instant replay.
Speaker 2: What else do you have?
Speaker 3: PAULI?
Speaker 5: Eighteen ninety two, the first organized women's basketball game was
Speaker 5: played at Smith College between students and faculty members. I
Speaker 5: do not have the score. I've been looking for it.
Speaker 5: Nineteen seventy nine. I've never heard of this guy. Randy
Speaker 5: Holt of the La Kings was penalized nine times for
Speaker 5: sixty seven minutes in the first period of a game
Speaker 5: against the Philadelphia Flyers. That's first period. That's a record
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety. You know, looking back, this seems a little haphazard.
Speaker 5: Thirteen year old Jennifer Capriotti played her first tennis match
Speaker 5: the way that the fifteen.
Speaker 2: Thirteen seem pretty much, and she was on the cover
Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 5: And then that's it.
Speaker 3: Today?
Speaker 2: Is she the youngest athlete to ever appear on the
Speaker 2: cover Sports Illustrator at thirteen? Because I'm trying to think,
Speaker 2: and you would, boy, and if you're the magazine and
Speaker 2: you're the editor, do you want to put somebody on?
Speaker 2: Who's that young? Tracy Austin was really young? Was Freddie
Speaker 2: Adou on the cover of Sports Illustrated checking soccer player?
Speaker 2: I think he was fifteen? You got Lebron Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2: I think Jennifer Capriotti was thirteen when she was on
Speaker 2: the cover.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I've got a bunch of high school kids like Bryce
Speaker 5: Harper and different NBA players that were in high school.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find someone younger than Caprioti.
Speaker 4: Thirteen. Wow?
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, Larry and ours hi Larry?
Speaker 3: What's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: DP?
Speaker 3: How are you great?
Speaker 8: Good? Well? Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 14: My question is about Schador Sanders Lewis touched on it
Speaker 14: just a little bit. But the fact is that with
Speaker 14: Dion being the dad, how will this impact anybody looking
Speaker 14: to draft him? Would that be a plus a negative?
Speaker 14: And you know in difference, I just have a feeling
Speaker 14: that with Dion being there, there's going to be some
Speaker 14: teams that may steer away just because of his big personality.
Speaker 14: And just curious about your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I just want to know if he can play, that's it.
Speaker 2: If it's a detrimental type of personality, then okay, then
Speaker 2: we have a conversation here. If he's bold, confident, cocky,
Speaker 2: but he can play. I don't want to pass up
Speaker 2: on somebody. I just I think sometimes, you know, we
Speaker 2: get caught up in silly things. What's his hand size?
Speaker 2: You know, even forty yard day? I just want to
Speaker 2: can you play football? And you know, the pedigree is there.
Speaker 2: He's not the athlete his dad is, so there's there
Speaker 2: are negatives there. And as I pointed out, I put
Speaker 2: him third on my Heisman ballot because he's tough and
Speaker 2: he hung in there and that you know, and I
Speaker 2: watched a lot of his games, not highlights games. But
Speaker 2: you know that's different. That's college. That's what the ward
Speaker 2: is voted on. And I'm looking at the NFL. He's
Speaker 2: not you know what, six'. One he's not going to elude,
Speaker 2: you DO i think he throws a good. Ball, YEAH i,
Speaker 2: Guess BUT i you, know does he know how to
Speaker 2: check at the line of? Scrimmage does he? Process like
Speaker 2: these are things that are? Big that's WHAT i want to.
Speaker 2: Know you get the line of? Scrimmage do you know
Speaker 2: what you're?
Speaker 3: Doing that's. It the other.
Speaker 2: STUFF i don't want to pass up on a on
Speaker 2: a talent just because oh he comes off a Cocky
Speaker 2: chuck And. Dayton, Hi, chuck what's on your?
Speaker 8: Mind?
Speaker 14: Hey how are you?
Speaker 13: Today i'm glad you're taking my.
Speaker 9: Call i'll make it.
Speaker 3: Quick of your hold?
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Speaker 4: Jordan's last shot against The Utah jazz in ninety.
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Speaker 2: Lune thank, you thanks for the phone, calls, emails. Tweets
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