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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Flowing to the goal line, Scot

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Speaker 1: and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's. It is a Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Tuesday here from the Star in Frisco. Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's another OP season edition. As it is May twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Ot a's are officially underway, and we

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Speaker 1: will break it down for you. We haven't gotten to

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Speaker 1: see a whole lot what we have heard some things,

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Speaker 1: and we of course have news and notes. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about some OTA stuff. We're gonna take your questions

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Speaker 1: from Twitter. By the way, you can go tweet at

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Speaker 1: me at Kyle Underscore Yeoman's. Get your questions out there.

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Speaker 1: We'll answer those coming up in the second segment. As always,

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Speaker 1: Chris being running the show in the back, heck My Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how

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Speaker 1: are we doing good goods? Swell. Feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: better now that football is kind of back in the

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Speaker 1: air here. Oh heck, yeah, a little bit. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: to hear some pads, you know here in a little while,

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Speaker 1: Pad's clicking, clicks popping. Almost there. When is Pad's get on?

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Speaker 1: When do they get on? Oh? A few days into camp,

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Speaker 1: real training camp. Yeah, so not just yet, but not

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Speaker 1: just got a little bit away, not too far away?

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Speaker 1: Under seven weeks? Is it really? Actually? I think it's

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Speaker 1: six weeks from today. Yeah, crazy's training. We're gonna blink,

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Speaker 1: man they leave. Is I think it's six weeks from today?

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Speaker 1: I may be wrong. Let me let me double chatty

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Speaker 1: in my hate it was like two and a half

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Speaker 1: I got June. You checked your inbox yet, because it's

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Speaker 1: probably got a couple of emails about training camp dates.

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Speaker 1: It has this. Yeah, I remember, I'm just a country guy.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm saying it's just as important to you.

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Speaker 1: Said they divided the room, right, you know what I'm saying? Hey, good,

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Speaker 1: we were Hey, we were all in practice. We were

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Speaker 1: all enjoyed rookie man camp. I definitely was walking back

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Speaker 1: to Robbiella. Wherever rob go, I'm going in your pocket.

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Speaker 1: Who got drafted here? Who played here? And who's just

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I don't buy. So that's my role.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. I connect myself. I carry something, microphone, cam,

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Speaker 1: y'all need me to carry. So absolutely, I'm on my

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Speaker 1: way consolutely. Can I puts? I mean, that's what you

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Speaker 1: gotta do. What you gotta do. Ye gotta do what

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Speaker 1: don't know me around here, me for condentials every corner

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Speaker 1: I go. We did the math back here, it's nine

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Speaker 1: how many weekends I have left at home? Thanks Chris,

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Speaker 1: Now I know, wow, nine weekends left. I don't know

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Speaker 1: camcoun pretty much you're taking us to Cancoon yaalk going

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Speaker 1: to rob pee Island. Let's do that. Yeah, Chris, you

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Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, Maybe both those guys split the playing time.

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Speaker 1: If Tyler Beiottish were to not be the guy at center.

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Speaker 1: all right, let's take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: in there. We're throwing stuff around, throwing stuff around, like

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Speaker 1: the microphones in the studio. Christian's gonna be really upset.

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Speaker 1: But there was a tense moment in one of our

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Speaker 1: I would love the opportunity to swing the bat. I

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Speaker 1: the reliant home run derby. Let's take some questions from Twitter.

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Speaker 1: By the way, well some good ones and I tease

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Speaker 1: this going into the break. Our friend Tie asked what

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Speaker 1: position coach? But you can't name a coordinator, so no

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. In this conversation, what position coach is the

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Speaker 1: best cook in the kitchen? Meaning which position coach will

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Speaker 1: max perform the talent that he has been added to

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Speaker 1: the team or that has been added to his team

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Speaker 1: to his position group. Out of the guys on the list, Rob,

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Speaker 1: you have one in mind? How about London Wells, Let's

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Speaker 1: steal it. Go ahead, you're a thief. No go ahead, No, no,

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Speaker 1: you go ahead, thief. Um Dalton Schultz last two years

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Speaker 1: with London here playing at a Pro Bowl level, putting

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Speaker 1: up Pro Bowl caliber production and getting a one year bag.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he gets a multi year bag. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's a credit to coaching. And now you

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Speaker 1: draft Jake Ferguson in the fourth round and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a key component to try to

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Speaker 1: add to this blocking and I think I think they've

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Speaker 1: got a guy in London Wells who can who can

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Speaker 1: bring that out of him. Okay, why do you agree?

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, from that standpoint, Dalton Schultz is not

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Speaker 1: the most physically gifted individual that we've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: this league. But yeah, he's been productive for this particular organization.

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Speaker 1: They productive enough for them to franchise him. So you

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Speaker 1: look at that development with with the skill set that

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of a lot of credit obviously to

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Speaker 1: Dalton in the work that he's put in on and

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Speaker 1: off the field, but there's a guy who coaches him

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Speaker 1: every single day, and they don't get enough recognition and

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Speaker 1: I think that London has done a heck of a job.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen him since my time with the Giants,

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Speaker 1: you know personally, I know personally, but the development that

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Speaker 1: he's put into himself, um, you know, into getting himself

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Speaker 1: in shape and mentally overhauling himself and getting himself changing

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Speaker 1: over from the offensive line side and over to the

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Speaker 1: to the tight end side. He's done the heck of

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Speaker 1: a job within himself in terms of coaching him and

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Speaker 1: now he's coming He's helping out these guys at the

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Speaker 1: end of the tight end room and then showing up

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Speaker 1: every week and everybody's like, oh, man, Dalton just came

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Speaker 1: up and had a heck of a year. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: just work like that. Players don't just show up and

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Speaker 1: just start playing well. There's a lot of work that

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Speaker 1: goes on the back end. And hats off to him.

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't pick a coordinator, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Al Harris on defense. I was gonna say too,

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Speaker 1: so we al Harris, And for me, I think Al

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Speaker 1: Harris and his influence on these defensive backs. Um, you

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Speaker 1: see the jump that Trayvon Diggs has made and his progression,

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Speaker 1: even progression even Brown UH and his second season under

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Speaker 1: UH with with Al Harris, I think it's it's really

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Speaker 1: something to see how good coaching can change players and

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Speaker 1: Lewis guys like that. Just there's there was a little

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Speaker 1: dB group, And just as the season got rolled in

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Speaker 1: the turnover started to come in, you start to see

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Speaker 1: the camaraderie amongst that group. And I think we started

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Speaker 1: to see that in OTAs like we see it on

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Speaker 1: the field, but we see the way these guys operate

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Speaker 1: out here and OTAs and Al Harris man, he has

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Speaker 1: his pants pulled all the way up, he's got tape

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Speaker 1: on me, and then he can still go, yeah, get

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Speaker 1: that man a helmet. You know, he can still get

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Speaker 1: out there and do it. But I just love the

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Speaker 1: tight knit group that we have with the DBS. But

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Speaker 1: I just Al Harris is one of those coaches that

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Speaker 1: I see him being a chef in the kitchen as

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Speaker 1: I want to say what somebody might have been Treyvon

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Speaker 1: said last year. I mean there's probably some extra weight

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Speaker 1: that's carried with his message because he's bland done it

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Speaker 1: at a high level, a high level at a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl level like that that carries weight with players for sure.

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Speaker 1: And one of the images that comes to mind with

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Speaker 1: were watching from over the top. Every three single rep,

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Speaker 1: Trayvon went straight back to Al Harris. There was that

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Speaker 1: Heckma mentioned it a moment ago that, yeah, Treyvon Digs

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Speaker 1: had a jump, but the whole cornerback room had a

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Speaker 1: a top need into this draft this year, and that

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Speaker 1: to me shows coaching is paying off. And you can't

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Speaker 1: necessarily mention Al Harris Without also mentioning Joe Ed Jr.

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Speaker 1: And the way that he's kind of played an impact

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Speaker 1: as the defensive passing game coordinator, as a secondary coach,

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Speaker 1: and somebody that handed George back and forth. You think

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Speaker 1: about that's another good Yeah. I mean I mean not

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Speaker 1: talk about a player that's just like constantly attached. I

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Speaker 1: mean Mica. They have a great relationship with George Edwards. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's a big reason why Jay Wren Curse was

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you have somebody believing in you

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Speaker 1: and put hands on somebody if he wanted to, if

637
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: he wanted to line up on CD right now, he could, right,

638
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: you know what, he could. He's that guy. He's that

639
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: listen here, he gonna he gonna get some Honda. He's

640
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna pull out some Vet moves on him. Okay, he's

641
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna get hit the chest three times that uncle strength,

642
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: right Okay, No, no, he might once they start running,

643
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: it might be a different story. But he has the

644
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: tricks and all those and all those little crafty things

645
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: that he can pass along to those guys that you

646
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: just can't no disrespect to other coaches, that you just

647
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: can't get from other coaches. Now, through experience and all

648
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: that jazz, they're gonna have that in their bag from

649
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: people that they've worked with but when you're a player

650
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: that has competed at that level and balled out and

651
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: been All Pro and Super Bowls and all that jazz,

652
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: and then you turn around and coach. To your point,

653
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: there's such a high regard for you as as as

654
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: that player and a person that they're gonna look up to. Quick.

655
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: That's what Jake kids doing for the MAVs to drop

656
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: in my MAVs reference real quick. I mean, he's done

657
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: a hell of it. And the season ain't over tonight

658
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: last that's the last day of the year. No, it's not,

659
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: it's not. No. No, I just wanted to figure back

660
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: off of that because it's so much of that that's

661
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: so true, and not only in a football sense, but

662
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: in a person of business senses, you know, not being

663
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: able to manage the talent that you have. And that's

664
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: why the great CEO's executives are who they are, because

665
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: they know how to delegate and make maximize the talent

666
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that they have. I think we came off of a

667
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: season with Coach Nolan where we saw guys running all

668
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: over the place, and you have to give coach Nolan

669
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: a lot of grace because of COVID and all of that,

670
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: but I just see players not being used the way

671
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: that they should have been. And now with dan Quinn

672
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: stepping in, you see a guy that recognizes Michael Parsons,

673
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: And I don't believe it was until he chased down

674
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert that the light came on. He was like,

675
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm not using this right. I need to,

676
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: you know. So it's not until you see that that

677
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: car get drove the way it's supposed to that you

678
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: know how to manage it. And so but I absolutely

679
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: agree with the difference that coaches make. And this provides

680
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: a great segue into Alfred's question. He wants us to

681
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: talk about the offensive line coaches because their ability to

682
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: develop young talent is going to be on display very quickly.

683
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: And we talked about the swing tackle position with Josh

684
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: Ball Matt will Let's go then in the interior of

685
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line with guys like Tyler Smith and Matt

686
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Farney Off. Guys that have been drafted or signed in

687
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: each of the last two years are going to have

688
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: to make an impact early. So how much confidence do

689
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: you have rob that Joe Philbin, even though he's been

690
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: in the league for seventeen years, he's done good things.

691
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: He's also had some lows at the same time. But

692
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: then you've also got Jeff Blasco kind of tag teaming it.

693
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: What is your confidence level like in the offensive coaching

694
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: staff offensive line coaching staff. Yeah, I think it's there.

695
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you said it. With his experience.

696
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a head coach, he's he's worked,

697
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: and I think you know, there there were some issues

698
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: last year with the offensive line, no doubt, but I

699
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: think I think you saw guys grow too over the

700
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: last two years overall, with Joe philbin here and Terrence

701
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: Steel's the best example. I mean, the guy that's undrafted

702
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: and is at a point now where they're like, we

703
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: can let Lyle Collins go and he can step in

704
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: and play that position. To your point, though, that might

705
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: be the most important coaching job on staff, like going forward,

706
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: if an offensive coordinator, Yeah, well, I guess I'm not

707
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: talking other than coordinators like and of course Mike, but

708
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: like just alone, just Tyler Smith. Can he jump in

709
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: right away as a first round pick and help you

710
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: immediately like that development because he's young too, you know,

711
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: if there's a knock on him coming out is that

712
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: he is kind of raw from a talent perspective. So

713
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: that's alone might be the biggest coaching job going forward,

714
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: just kind of like Michael was last year, developing MICA's

715
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: skills and finding a role for him. Philbin has done

716
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: an absolutely amazing job since walking into building here and

717
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: you think about the amount of players that he's utilized, Yeah,

718
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: the number of number of lineups that he's had over

719
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: the past two seasons. This dude has I mean, he's

720
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: done a miraculous job. And you're not on an island

721
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: in this There are people that think he's done a

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: great job, and I think the staff across the way

723
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: thinks he's had done a great job. But there's a

724
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: good contingency of people that don't feel that way, that

725
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: feel like down and I understand why they feel that way.

726
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: You understand there's two aspects to the office alignment. Office

727
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: alignemen have to keep your quarterback upright and give him

728
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to throw the ball. And then the office alignement

729
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: have to be dog on you know, gorillaz those and

730
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: get some guys out the dog on mud and drive

731
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: him off the ball and not be penalized and not

732
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: be penalized. But that's so much of that. There's technique

733
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: that it's involved in both. But one particularly has a

734
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: different mindset, and that's running. That's running game right. Run blocking,

735
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: it's different you that takes a different mindset to get

736
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: underneath somebody who's three hundred plus pounds called two ninety

737
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty pounds and drive them off the ball.

738
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: Technique alone is not going to get that done. You

739
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: have to have a dog out there. So I don't

740
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: know if they've had those dogs out there recently, which

741
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: is why I think they made the pick that they

742
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: made this year in the draft, even though he's raw

743
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: and he still had some things that he needs to

744
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: shure up. There's no question mark about about the dog mentality.

745
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: He's he's a drag. He's a dog in there, and

746
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: that's what they need. They needed somebody with some attitude

747
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: who's gonna be out there to be able to go

748
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: out there and deliver it. Now, take some of that coaching,

749
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: take that technique, apply it to that that that dog

750
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: on you know, tenacity that you have, and move some

751
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: of these guys up the dog on paint, because that's

752
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: what this officing life needs. Right now. They need some grit.

753
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: So Philbin, yes, I understand, you gotta get the running

754
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: game going, but that's not all on him. Passing game

755
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: is a little bit easier to coach up, a little

756
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: bit easier to coach up getting guys moving off the

757
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: ball a lot different. Now, you know, when you talk

758
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: about the island that Isaiah's own giving Philbin praise, there's

759
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: so many people that just thought he did a horrible job,

760
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: and we're calling for his job really in a lot

761
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: of ways. And but I'm I'm I'm on your side

762
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: on this because here's what I know about football. And

763
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: if you look at any program worth it salt, you

764
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: go into the offensive line room, tell me who the

765
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches, and I'll tell you the success you're

766
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: having as a program. Because if you don't have an

767
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: offensive line coach worthy're worth the salt, they don't have nothing.

768
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: And any you look at the pay rate of offensive

769
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: line coaches, they try and pay overpaid in keeping. We've

770
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: had some great offensive line coaches here that have gotten

771
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: things going and filbing it's wanting to be in that

772
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: list of it. I have to allow the grace for

773
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: a filbing as well, because of the injuries that he

774
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: had to deal with Leo Collins last season coming in

775
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: and obviously you know the labor room and just the

776
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: musical chairs of the offensive line and Tyren Smith also

777
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: going on going down. But I think developing players in

778
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: the NFL has really became a thing of the past, man,

779
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: because if a guy didn't work out, it's so easy

780
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: to call him a bus and then cut him and

781
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: get rid of him. And then, like we just were

782
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: talking about, another coach gets his hands on him and

783
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: he redevelops this guy and turns him into something, and

784
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: we're all looking like, well, damn, I thought it was

785
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: a bus though he was in the wrong system and

786
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: no one could develop him. The easiest thing and always

787
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: Nate Newton is somebody that I love having these football

788
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: come sessions with because as an offensive line he'll tell you, man,

789
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do is a run block, because

790
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: most high schools have a sled. You know, you blocking sled.

791
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: You know he's five on, put five on it, you

792
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: drive it down the field. That's the easiest thing to

793
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: get a three hundred pound man to do is go forward.

794
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: But pass blocking, that's where a lot of the troubles

795
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: come in for offensive line and technique, and we saw

796
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: those troubles with the clock and Doc and Dak's head

797
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: last season with a lot of the injuries that he

798
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: was having up front. It just changed the dynamic of

799
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: the offense. We couldn't play field position in ball control

800
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: anymore because teams like Vick Vangio who had the blueprint

801
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: and started coming after us. There's a lot of air

802
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: quotations because you know what, he's gonna live rent free

803
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: in my head because of his whole you know how

804
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: about them Broncos in the blueprint deal. It's too bad

805
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: he's not the coach for these joint practices and the

806
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: preseason game coming up, man, just say him and Mike.

807
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: That would have been fun because we will see Tyrn

808
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Smith versus Randy Gregory again though in those practice that's

809
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: gonna do. Yes, yes, we will. Yeah, Hey, we know

810
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: who dominated that those match ups. You know that's why

811
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: timers haven't Tims Smith back healthy being able to develop

812
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: the left guard and you're you're right. If he can

813
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: get this guy already with the what he has and

814
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: you know he has that dog mentality and just refine

815
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: what he has already. I expect him to be a

816
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: player for us. Just for those who may not know,

817
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do have two joint practices with the LA

818
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: Chargers August seventeenth and eighteenth before their preseason game against

819
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and then they also have a joint practice

820
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: in Denver against the Broncos on April eleventh, prior to

821
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: their first preseason game against Denver. So that came out

822
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: this last week. I don't think we've hit that as

823
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: a storyline on this show. Jake asked which young defensive

824
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: tackle do you expect more from this year? No injuries.

825
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: Let's pretend they're healthy all season long. OsO Diggi Zuoa

826
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: or Neville Gallimore? Isaiah, who you got Galimore? Why? Because

827
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: the there of clogging up the middle in this defense

828
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: last year and the necessity for that role, the reason

829
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: why they went out and drafted somebody, So they drafted

830
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: somebody to pretty much, Hey, we just talked about competition,

831
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: So you didn't get it done the way in which

832
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: you wanted to get it done. So here, here we're

833
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: gonna put another another, another guy in there to compete

834
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: with you. He was traditionally a three technique at Oklahoma.

835
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: He played a lot of three technique as a rookie.

836
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Do you expect him, because he is a little bit

837
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: bigger than some of those other guys that are in

838
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: that three technique rotation, to maybe slide over and play

839
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: the nose a little bit now that Brent Urban's not

840
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: a part of it. And you also don't you have

841
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: two young guys in Quentin Bohanna and John Ridgeway. However,

842
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: nevels by far the more veteran of those two, and

843
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: even he's still a young guy. I don't think, I

844
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: honestly don't think that this team plans on having a

845
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: true nose. I think that they stunt so much and

846
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: they move around so much on the defensive line, and

847
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: they want those linebackers to be able to flow and

848
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: get those those matchups on office liniment with half a body,

849
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Speaker 1: not having to take them on head on, but getting

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Speaker 1: them half a body. Well, in order to do that,

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Speaker 1: you need your defensive line crossing the front of these

852
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Speaker 1: office alignment and causing some confusion up there. So I

853
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: don't think that this team intends to have a true one.

854
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: So I think Gallimore should be confident in his role

855
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: in terms of transitioning from what he did in college.

856
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: But those guys have to be able to move across

857
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: the front of office, alignement, and get penetration. That's the difference.

858
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: The penetration aspect is where this team has struggled over

859
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: the past few seasons. They need to get somebody moving

860
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: up the field and messes and messing things up in

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Speaker 1: the backfield. And that's why I take also Diggi Zoo

862
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Speaker 1: because I think his quick twitch and his point of

863
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: attack explosiveness is different from Neville Gallimore. Same beast, same animal,

864
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Speaker 1: just different, you know. And I think also Diggi Zeol

865
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Speaker 1: just brings that quickness to it that you need when

866
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: you talk about penetration. But I just want to take

867
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Speaker 1: the whole world tradition as it relates to our defense

868
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Speaker 1: is just bump, just ball it up and throw it away,

869
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Speaker 1: because there's nothing traditional about what we ask these guys

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Speaker 1: to do in and out of the scheme. Because I

871
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: think of the position X that we like to enjoy

872
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: with with our players, and so also is that player

873
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Speaker 1: that I believe second year coming up for him, Man,

874
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Speaker 1: it's gonna you should be excited about what he did

875
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Speaker 1: in his first year. The coaches are very excited about LSA.

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Speaker 1: I think they feel like, you know, he's gonna be

877
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Speaker 1: like a ten year guy in this league, just just

878
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Speaker 1: super productive. They asked him to do a lot early

879
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Speaker 1: in the season, I mean for a third round pick,

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Speaker 1: and he I think he delivered there. I would go

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00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: with Neville Gallimore just though, because um full season healthy,

882
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Like into training camp it looked like he was getting

883
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Speaker 1: ready to take a jump and then he gets hurt

884
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Speaker 1: and that's a serious injury he was dealing with too,

885
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Speaker 1: So I think full offseason. I honestly, I think the

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Speaker 1: answer is both. But also, you know, Carlos Watkins is

887
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Speaker 1: a guy too that can help some of that rotation

888
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: play a little knows play inside. So yeah, So I

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00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: love Gallimore's energy, man, Yeah, I love his energy. Before guys,

890
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: I think they both had energy, but there was something

891
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Speaker 1: about for me particularly, there's something about Gallimore. He just

892
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: like he loves he loves the prime time like he

893
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Speaker 1: loves the crowd, you know what I'm saying. Like he

894
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: like there's just so many, so many, so many guys

895
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Speaker 1: that are liked that, and I think he loves that man.

896
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Speaker 1: And when I saw him go down to that, I

897
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: was like, God, he was bringing so much energy to

898
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: that group and impact he was getting up in there,

899
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Speaker 1: you know. So looking forward to seeing him back out

900
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: there healthy. What about Tristan him? Do you think Tristan

901
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Hilly makes this team? You got two young tackles that

902
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Speaker 1: you drafted. Yeah, of water, that's about it. Last year

903
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: of his deal, right, Yeah, I mean this is this

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Speaker 1: is it. There's a lot of defensive linement. Oh, it's

905
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Speaker 1: crowd They got crowded quick, Yeah I did. There was

906
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Speaker 1: a tone. It's who steps up. You talk about competition,

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Speaker 1: it's there. That's the most competitive pensive line. It's there

908
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Speaker 1: for the most competitive room, hands down, as defensive line.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, is it. Oh yeah, I might

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Speaker 1: have to be not receiver in terms of crowd lineman,

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Speaker 1: not quarterback, not running back. Yeah, it's deal, it's d line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree to. All right. Since we brought up

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Speaker 1: position flexibility, this is this is kind of fun killing Moore,

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Speaker 1: What's that cable? Not killing? Unfortunately, so outside of the

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Speaker 1: mascot position, what would Rowdy play if he was called

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Speaker 1: upon on game day kicker, why because you see those boots.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man said, a necessity would get a necessity.

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Speaker 1: Perfect way to take us to break, Kyle. I think

921
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Speaker 1: I think you could go like down lineman, a little

922
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Speaker 1: edge rusher actions Kidney. He's got those big old hands.

923
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Speaker 1: You could chop and block and go around. You want

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Speaker 1: to see him in a three point stance. Heck, yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll go with kicker straight kicker with

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Speaker 1: or punter one of the two. Okay, yeah, I don't

927
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Speaker 1: even Yeah, there's that much flexibility for punter, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can get that leg give him kicker. Uh,

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Speaker 1: somebody said field goal return man, because he's always back

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Speaker 1: there anyway, because he's sitting under the field goal post.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's add the break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: you can even think of at this point in their career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a setup, is like a gotcha question. No it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's just a fun question ahead, pe Okay, if if

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Speaker 1: you guys admit, if you would have said that nobody

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Speaker 1: would agree with you to a certain extent. I love

998
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott as much as anybody else, but he's not

999
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Speaker 1: number one on that list, right, I'll go, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: go Pat Mahomes, Pat Mahomes. And I think like there's

1001
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Speaker 1: some and that's not a knock on Dak Prescott exactly,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, guy, I think everybody knows that. Um. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think there's some recency bias sometimes in sports in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, Like, you know, he didn't make the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Now Tyreek Hill leaves and it's kind of like, is

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Speaker 1: he are people catching up to him? I still think

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Speaker 1: over the next ten years, like he's going to be

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Speaker 1: in competing to go to the Super Bowl every single year.

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Speaker 1: And part of it is because they have in an

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Speaker 1: organization that does a good and a coach does a

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00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: good job of surrounding him with talent. But like he's

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00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I think he's the best young player in the league.

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00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: Like and to me, it's it's hard to argue that

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Speaker 1: although I think that that Bill's chief game, not only

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Speaker 1: was it one of the best five games of this

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Speaker 1: century that we've watched, I think Josh Allen kind of

1017
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Speaker 1: Maybe this is recency biased, but I think he showed

1018
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: he's another guy that can can reach that level too.

1019
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think Dad can reach a

1020
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl too. Sure, but if I'm having to pick

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00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: one guy, Mahomes based on what he's done so far,

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Speaker 1: you know, those are three names that I've I've thrown

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Speaker 1: around Mahomes, Josh Allen, and then you can maybe think

1024
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football too, But the quarterback position

1025
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: is just so valuable at this point. I'm torn between

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00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: two names. Okay, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, not Pat not Pat?

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00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: Why those two? I like Justin Herbert too. By the way,

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00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: I like their dog they got they got they have

1029
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: that dog mentality. They work, they work hard. That's not

1030
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Speaker 1: to say to any of us these other premier quarterbacks don't.

1031
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Speaker 1: There's just something in those guys that I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's just like just a fighter's mentality. And I think

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Speaker 1: that they're both so early on in their careers that

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Speaker 1: they have they've been successful to this point, and I

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Speaker 1: think their organizations currently are building around them, especially Herbert Jesus,

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Speaker 1: they just helped him out defensively. Um, but I like,

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Speaker 1: I'm always so those plaza. Come on, guys, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: say this in the Star, Yeah, definitely. But this questions set,

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Speaker 1: there's the second question on the back end too, that

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Speaker 1: we will ask which cowboys should be at the top

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Speaker 1: of that list. No, I mean, come on, now, you

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I mean, come on, dog. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's had an amazing career only two years

1047
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Speaker 1: and I believe seventeen going into the seventeen seasons where

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Speaker 1: position like this man. He fits the ball into places

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Speaker 1: that I've never seen. He made a throw in a

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Speaker 1: T and T in the playoff game. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: anybody make a throw like that. Man. He does things

1053
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Speaker 1: on the field that is is like, it's I don't

1054
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Speaker 1: know if we'll ever see a guy that has that

1055
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Speaker 1: kind of placement in touch on his ball the way

1056
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Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers does. He is that dude. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: only thing knocking. I guess his stock in this conversation

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00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: would be the age, but he still hasn't necessarily shown

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00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: a slow inkling of slow. He's a back to back

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: MVP Award winner for a reason, so I definitely can

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00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: see that. I think I would choose one of the

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00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks that you guys kind of mentioned, between Mahomes, Alan,

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00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: and Herbert. I think I lean Mahomes just because of

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00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: what he can do from a standpoint of freelancing and

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00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of making plays on the run. Josh Allen can

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00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: do something very similar, but I think Mahomes has a

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00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: better arm for doing that while also moving and as

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00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: much as he's already done, he's like twenty five. Yeah,

1069
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: he's not that old, which is crazy. Experience, youth, and

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00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: talent all put together. That's hard to find, and those

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: three guys all have it. But I think Mahomes is

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: just still a half a step up on Alan, and

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00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: then I think Alan's a full step up on Herbert.

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Speaker 1: That's how I would rank it back and forth. But

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Speaker 1: as I promised, which Dallas Cowboy would be highest on

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: that list doesn't have to be the It doesn't have

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00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: to be on the offensive side of the football, if,

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00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: if anything, we could split at offense and defense. If

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Speaker 1: we want, um, which which quarter or excuse me, which

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00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: player for the Cowboys would be highest on that list altogether?

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: Mere you go, you guys would let him go first.

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00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: I know where you're going da all day or all

1083
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: day or all day. If we're gonna go on the

1084
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, is gonna be who getting

1085
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: on the bus with Michael? Michael baby, right? I mean

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00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: that's just it. But I think, look, I even thought

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00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: that last segment. I just feel I don't need a

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00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: shower right now because I didn't say Dak and I

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00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: said Aaron Rodgers because of the numbers. I mean, you

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00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: look at the other players that you're talking about. Herbert,

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00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: he's only done it for but two years in the

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00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: league and had all had all the yards in the world,

1093
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: but still bounced out of the player. Let mean, come on,

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00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the same thing that you knocked Dak for,

1095
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: you don't knock these other guys for. And I just

1096
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: feel like that's the people are contradicting themselves right there.

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00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: But I think that Daks as far as the numbers,

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00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: as far as the PF when you want to use

1099
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: it to make your point. Qbr yards, touchdowns, double digits, interceptions.

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00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: I believe three years so far in his career, this

1101
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: this guy is on a trajectory that's going this way.

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00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: And so I just feel like DA is the obvious answer.

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00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm going rain Dakota too, Okay, most important position, And

1104
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: I think, as I said earlier, like I don't think

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00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: he's far off from being where he needs to go.

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00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: I really don't. Some of a lot of it has

1107
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: to do with what's who's around him. Um, I just

1108
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean, some of it's just being around him and

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: some of it. A lot of it's what you hear

1110
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: from people about him, Like he's the type of guy,

1111
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: type of person, type of leader. You just I don't

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00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: see him not succeeding at the highest level at some

1113
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: point in his career. People people don't buy it right now.

1114
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people skeptical right now. Yeah. I

1115
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: just think he's only twenty eight. Where there's time, there's

1116
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: time for him, and I think he's gonna get to

1117
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: that level. I'm going with the Bazuka, And I know

1118
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: that's weird because he's a defensive player, but I like

1119
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: his approach. I like his mentality. I like the fact

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00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: that he doesn't rely on somebody else to go out

1121
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: there and have an impact on the game. He literally

1122
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: says it's on me. And I like that about him

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00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: as a player. I like that about any player who

1124
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: has that mindset because it's easy to surround those individuals

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00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: with people who just want to just feel that some

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: of that energy and who just want to be a

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: part of that. How many people do we see on

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00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: the defense side of the ball this past year just

1129
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: want to be a part of that. I don't want

1130
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: just Mic out there making plays by him, So shoot,

1131
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: let me get in on this right. I ain't made

1132
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: play since birth, But guess what, I'm go out there

1133
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: and do it now because he's out there doing it.

1134
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: You want that, and I think that that's somebody that

1135
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: you want, that you want to build around. And obviously

1136
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: I think that they're they're starting to do so. Yeah,

1137
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: And I mean it was a complete overhaul the defensive

1138
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: side of the football, and it started with one guy

1139
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: that was number eleven on that side. Now, if Dak

1140
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: Prescott prior to the injury, you mentioned trajectory, heck, the

1141
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: true objectory, the confidence, the leadership abilities, all those things

1142
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: were there prior to the injury. You could argue that

1143
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: trajectory has kind of been a stagnant since then. Do

1144
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: you think prior to that he would be on that

1145
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: that initial list of guys up in that conversation with

1146
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: the Allens and the Mahomes and stuff like that, I

1147
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: think everybody is putting two on the team with Josh Allen.

1148
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: I think his decision making needs to be called into

1149
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: play as well. He didn't do all the great things,

1150
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: and it's because he's way up in Buffalo that he

1151
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: didn't get the scrutiny in the market because he didn't

1152
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: do a good job with all he had thrown Dak

1153
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: on touchdowns and interceptions as well. I mean, look Dak

1154
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: right now, if you take away the New York and

1155
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: it's his foot turn first the way, okay, and he's

1156
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: sitting there trying to figure out what is his career

1157
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: going to be like? After that, he came back and

1158
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: he balled. We were looking at pictures of him walking

1159
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: into Luke Casey's and his freaking ankle was the size

1160
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,479
Speaker 1: of a great fruit. But he went out there and balled.

1161
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: And I take to one play, and that's the one

1162
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: against New England to walk off touchdown the Sea lamb.

1163
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: To me, that was the foreshadow for Dak of the

1164
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: whole twenty twenty one season because he that was his

1165
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: highest high and his lowest low because he got injured

1166
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: on the same freaking play and it took the whole

1167
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: offense with him after that, right, he was firmly in

1168
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: the MVP conversation at that moment. Think about that moment,

1169
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: Think about that one play and what that meant. Because

1170
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: if you walk off from that situation healthy and you

1171
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: go to through the bye or beat Minnesota and going

1172
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: to the bye, doc, you're cooking with house. You got

1173
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: house money right now, right, And so everybody's looking at

1174
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Dak in the way that he finished the season and

1175
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: would not give any credits to what we talked about

1176
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: with fielding, the offensive line, the penalties, the kicking game,

1177
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 1: all of that and putting it on Dak and said,

1178
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: oh man, he's not in that Josh Allen. But you

1179
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: ain't watching Josh Allen then, you know. But nobody said

1180
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, And you know, I would think as far

1181
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: as the other guys, I mean, this is the guy

1182
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: you want to want to start talking about before you

1183
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: even get to a Herbert or Josh Allen. In my opinion, Yeah, yeah,

1184
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: That's why I said recency bias with Josh Allen because

1185
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: I think the last image was like, oh man, he

1186
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: took the Chiefs to the brain, He's maybe the guy.

1187
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 1: Then Joe Burrow beat the Chiefs. I got you who's

1188
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: your pick? Who you got? Oh? I picked Mahomesh Cowboys. Yeah, Dak.

1189
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: I would still would pick Dak quarterback second on that

1190
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: list with me, Micah. So I'm right there with you

1191
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: guys in terms of the reasoning altogether. But I think

1192
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: Dak is still the guy here. If you had to

1193
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: pick one guy, one Jersey that's going to be the

1194
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: biggest impact man on how this organization will either succeed

1195
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: or how it would have fail. It is firmly on

1196
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: the shoulders of Dak Prescott, Right, That's exactly the point.

1197
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: So I think I think he's in that conversation he

1198
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: would be the guy would want to build around, because

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00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: that's exactly who you have built around. And there's that's

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00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: where you got to get to some of it too.

1201
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: For me is I got to spend like forty five

1202
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: minutes with him for something else we're doing last week

1203
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: while I wasn't on the show. Sure, and it's just

1204
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: hard to like just being around him. The type of

1205
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: guy is the type of leadery. It's just it's hard

1206
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: not to think there's something big that's he's gonna do

1207
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: at some point. I just that's just how I feel

1208
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: about it. But but it's hard enough to put Micael

1209
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: there because Mikea just had a season that really we

1210
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 1: almost haven't seen in the NFL for a rookie defensive player,

1211
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, how good can this guy be? So

1212
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, you flip a coin, I guess it's

1213
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Mica to perform at a

1214
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: higher level this year. Absolutely, I think he's got to

1215
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: take the next step that you would anticipate for a

1216
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: pressure on him. I think they aintbody on his team.

1217
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: That's a conversation we might have in a future episode

1218
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Speaker 1: because that's a pretty interesting statement. But that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us. We are out of time here on

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Speaker 1: a Talking Cowboys Tuesday. Once again, Ota is going on

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Speaker 1: all week long. We will break it down for you.

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Speaker 1: We'll get a chance to watch him practices between now

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Speaker 1: and next Tuesday for Chris Being, Ron Phillips, Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on Talking Cowboys. This has

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