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Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty six million people in the United
Speaker 2: States watch the Super Bowl. That is a new Super
Speaker 2: Bowl viewing record, And I'm wondering about this. You know,
Speaker 2: there was going to be Chiefs fatigue. No, nobody wants
Speaker 2: to have the Chiefs back in the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many people watch because they wanted to
Speaker 2: watch the Chiefs lose. But they do have star power.
Speaker 2: You do have star power with your quarterback, with your
Speaker 2: tight end. You have a great coach and Andy Reid.
Speaker 2: You have the Taylor Swift factor. Although I think they
Speaker 2: only showed her once or twice on TV. The over
Speaker 2: under was five and a half and they cut back
Speaker 2: greatly on that. But maybe you tuned in to watch
Speaker 2: them lose. Maybe people stayed tuned in because they wanted
Speaker 2: to see just how bad they would lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to believe that.
Speaker 2: People go, boy, I'm rooting for the Eagles just outside
Speaker 2: of Philadelphia. I don't see that happening, but I do
Speaker 2: see America going. Okay, let me just tune in to
Speaker 2: see it. Oh they're losing. Oh they're down seventeen this
Speaker 2: is awesome, and then all of a sudden the misery
Speaker 2: starts to set in and the Eagles, Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: that might be one of those where we remember the
Speaker 2: Chiefs losing maybe more than we do the Eagles winning,
Speaker 2: because it was about a three peat.
Speaker 3: It's about Mahomes.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the goat, Andy Reid, he's approaching
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. Does Kelsey get engaged right after the game?
Speaker 2: You know, there was so much involved in it that Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, that Eagles defense was great, and you
Speaker 2: could put them in, you know, the conversation, and it's
Speaker 2: a small group of best defensive performances in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 2: If I'm the Chiefs or I'm the Eagles, when I
Speaker 2: get my Super Bowl ring, I think I put the
Speaker 2: score forty to six. I think they got some oh
Speaker 2: by the way, touchdown that doesn't really count. We beat
Speaker 2: them forty to six. It's okay, Yeah, it's your ring.
Speaker 2: Be snarky there a little bit, as Philadelphia fans have
Speaker 2: been known to be. But instead of putting the score
Speaker 2: of forty to twenty two, which it doesn't feel that way,
Speaker 2: but you know what, speaking of the Super Bowl, let's
Speaker 2: go back and look at Super Bowl since two thousand.
Speaker 2: How many of these do we really remember? And why
Speaker 2: do we remember them? Two thousand Saint Louis the then
Speaker 2: Saint Louis Rams beat Tennessee, and we remember that because
Speaker 2: that was the Mike Jones play down at the one
Speaker 2: yard line. Ooh right, the Gravandison Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, Baltimore in one of the great
Speaker 2: defensive performances, blew out the Giants. I don't know if
Speaker 2: anybody remembers anything from that other than the Giants in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and they weren't any good certainly that
Speaker 2: day New England against Saint Louis two thousand and two.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you remember from the game other
Speaker 2: than that was Tom Brady's coming out party, and that's
Speaker 2: when John Madden famously said, hey, they should be playing
Speaker 2: for overtime. And that's when we saw Tom Brady. He
Speaker 2: was born right there in front of us. They were
Speaker 2: going for the game winning field goal, which they got.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, Tampa Bay with John Gruden beat
Speaker 2: John Gruden's Oakland Raiders forty eight to twenty one, and
Speaker 2: that's when the Raiders said, well, Gruden knew all of
Speaker 2: our plays that maybe they didn't change things up their
Speaker 2: audibles and they played like they knew what Oakland was
Speaker 2: going to do in that game.
Speaker 4: Yes, PAULI was that the Dexter Jackson game defensive back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then he signed a big contract.
Speaker 3: Yeah. A couple interceptions there.
Speaker 4: It's like you can remember one or two things from every.
Speaker 2: Game that but that had Jerry Rice in that game,
Speaker 2: rich Gannon, I think was MVP two thousand and four
Speaker 2: New England against Carolina. Do you remember that for the
Speaker 2: halftime show? Wasn't that Janet Jackson? Miss Jackson if You're nasty?
Speaker 2: So that was New England over Carolina thirty two to
Speaker 2: twenty nine. Adam Vini Terry with another game winning kick.
Speaker 2: The quarterback for Carolina was Paul Jake del Holme, Hey
Speaker 2: Dell Homie. Okay, New England over Philadelphia in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: What do you remember about that? Now? I know what
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: And I actually had to have security with me when
Speaker 2: I was doing Sports Center because I asked, who was it,
Speaker 2: fred the wide receiver, Freddie Mitchell, fred X And I
Speaker 2: said he was talking about the defensive backs for the Patriots,
Speaker 2: And I said he was talking their numbers. I said,
Speaker 2: do you know their names? And he didn't know their names?
Speaker 2: And that was a really good second dary for you know,
Speaker 2: ty law Rodney Harrison, probably Lawyer Maloy in there.
Speaker 3: And I remember that when that came out, and that.
Speaker 2: Was a big deal during Super Bowl Week, and I
Speaker 2: remember whenever Philly fans who were not pleased with me
Speaker 2: because all I did was say do you know who
Speaker 2: those players are? And Fred didn't know their names. So
Speaker 2: I remember that twenty four to twenty one. I think
Speaker 2: Rodney Harrison had an interception at the end of that game,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh against Seattle two thousand and six. What do you remember,
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger, Mike Holmgren, Willie Parker, Willie Parker. Okay, wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't remember that. Hassel Beck Matt Hasselbeck. Yes, Ton,
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 5: There was a kind of a big deal that Bettis
Speaker 5: was winning in his hometown of Detroit, not so much
Speaker 5: something in the game, but just on the outskirts of it.
Speaker 6: That was kind of a homecoming to win it.
Speaker 2: There was cool for Jodhyamp Indianapolis over Chicago twenty nine
Speaker 2: to seventeen.
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, that was a no show Super Bowl by
Speaker 4: the Bears, but Devin Hester returned the opening kickoff for
Speaker 4: some false.
Speaker 2: Hope and Tony Dungee swore that he was not going
Speaker 2: to kick to Devon Hester. At the last minute, decide
Speaker 2: to kick to Devin Hester and he ran it back.
Speaker 2: The Giants over New England two thousand and eight. That
Speaker 2: was when they were going to be undefeated, and the
Speaker 2: Giants beat them seventeen fourteen. Pittsburgh over Arizona twenty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty three. That was That's one of the great
Speaker 2: Super Bowls I've ever witnessed, whether I'm watching on TV
Speaker 2: or in person. Happened to be there. But so many
Speaker 2: big plays, so many big moments. It was just wonderful.
Speaker 2: James Harrison at the end of the first half. Ben
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, Larry Fitzgerald. We thought
Speaker 2: he was going to get the game winning touchdown. The
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals were going to win the Super Bowl. New
Speaker 2: Orleans over Indianapolis. I'm gonna say onside kick Eckenham Sean
Speaker 2: Payton probably the last on side kick in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 2: Green Bay over Pittsburgh in twenty eleven, thirty one, twenty
Speaker 2: five Desmond, Oh no, not Desmond Howard.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, I thought me personally that was gonna that
Speaker 5: was the start of the next dynasty with Green Bay
Speaker 5: Young Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers maybe twenty five at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what do you remember from that game?
Speaker 5: I'm blinking, yeah, yeah, twenty twelve Giants over New England
Speaker 5: twenty one seventeen.
Speaker 3: What do you remember from that one, Marvin?
Speaker 5: The Manningham catch, Yeah, that was the most perfectest throw ever, perfectest.
Speaker 2: I don't think Eli Gett it's enough credit for that
Speaker 2: throw because when you say, oh, Eli Manning, oh the
Speaker 2: helmet catch, well, that's about the catch. The throw was
Speaker 2: great too. That throw is one of the greatest clutch
Speaker 2: throws in NFL history, and I don't think it gets
Speaker 2: enough attention there. But Manningham down the sidelines and it
Speaker 2: was perfectly placed. Baltimore thirty four, San Francisco thirty one.
Speaker 2: That was twenty thirteen. That was when the power outage,
Speaker 2: the lights went out, and it was Harball versus Harball,
Speaker 2: Seattle over Denver forty three to eight.
Speaker 5: Hey Todd looked first player of the game of both
Speaker 5: snapped over Manning's head.
Speaker 3: It just is not a good sign Wow, that one
Speaker 3: was rough?
Speaker 5: Is that Percy Harvin returned one?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't remember that. I just know that the
Speaker 2: legion of Boone was Boom was unbelievable. Peyton didn't have
Speaker 2: a chance. Yes, is that the episode.
Speaker 6: Earliest you can get a bad feeling about him? Team
Speaker 6: super Bowl?
Speaker 5: On the very first play for the boy to get
Speaker 5: snapped over your head into the end zone.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess, except for didn't Aaron Roddy Andrews
Speaker 2: come out pre game with the flag upside down?
Speaker 3: Like they screwed up that?
Speaker 2: Like that's a bad sign when you go, h, I
Speaker 2: think they screwed up him bringing out the American flag.
Speaker 2: Let's see Denver over Carolina. That was von Miller, von
Speaker 2: Miller's strip sack New England over at Yeah at thirty
Speaker 2: four twenty eight. We know we all remember that when
Speaker 2: I don't know where that rank's most memorable. But if
Speaker 2: you say, hey, New England against Atlanta twenty eight to three,
Speaker 2: comes out of your mouth, Yeah, Paul, that.
Speaker 4: Game comes on NFL network sometimes and I'll stop what
Speaker 4: I'm doing. I hate to do this the Falcons fans,
Speaker 4: but the Falcons have the ball with five minutes to
Speaker 4: go in the third quarter, and it's bone dry, the
Speaker 4: crowds dry, the announcers are dry, and the game feels
Speaker 4: like it's being played out. And then they didn't get
Speaker 4: the first down and then it was like a warma
Speaker 4: bees attacked their team.
Speaker 2: Do you had Philadelphia in twenty eighteen? That's Nick Foles
Speaker 2: beating New England. New England didn't punt, but that was
Speaker 2: back and forth. That was a lot of fun. Brady
Speaker 2: threw for five hundred yards and lost Brandon Graham at
Speaker 2: the end of the game with the sack. But Philadelphia
Speaker 2: the Philly Special. This is one of the worst ones ever.
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, New England thirteen the Rams three.
Speaker 3: Terrible.
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything from that game. Now, Marvin, you
Speaker 2: might remind me of something there. Here's another thing out
Speaker 2: of all of these games that I'm mentioning. How many
Speaker 2: times do you remember what the quarterback did in that game?
Speaker 2: Because we're going to remember Patrick Mahomes. His quarterback rating
Speaker 2: was ten in the first half against Tampa Bay. He
Speaker 2: got roughed up too, but in fairness to him, how
Speaker 2: many I don't know what Tom Brady did in that game.
Speaker 3: To three against the Rams.
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul Brady had two sixty two no touchdowns and
Speaker 4: a pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Generic, they had to give the MVP to someone, and
Speaker 4: they gave it to Edelman for his twelve catches.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty Kansas City over San Francisco thirty one to
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty one, Tampa Bay thirty one Kansas City nine.
Speaker 2: I just remember that defense was awesome in that game.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two. It was the Rams in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: it was Aaron Donald with the sack. Odell Beckham Junior
Speaker 2: the third looked like he was on his way to
Speaker 2: being the MVP.
Speaker 3: Got hurt.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three. Kansas City over Philadelphia thirty eight thirty five.
Speaker 2: What do you remember from that? Thirty eight thirty five?
Speaker 5: Marvin one of the better performances in a losing effort,
Speaker 5: though Jalen Hurts is probably the best player in that game.
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2: If I look at his performances in the two super
Speaker 2: I mean, you're hard pressed to come up with two
Speaker 2: better performances by one quarterback. Kansas City in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four beat San Francisco twenty five, twenty two, and that
Speaker 2: was Mahomes. The last drive with the touchdown past two
Speaker 2: Marvin Hardman, Yeah, bloop bloop. And then you had Philadelphia
Speaker 2: against Kansas City forty to twenty two. What will we
Speaker 2: remember from this game? I'll let you guys think about that.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll come up with a poll
Speaker 2: question here. But a lot of times we get so
Speaker 2: caught up, we're ready for the super Bowl. We talk
Speaker 2: about the super Bowl, the Super Bowl ends, and then
Speaker 2: we forget. Sometimes I'll go who was in the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl last year? It's just like it just goes by
Speaker 2: so quickly.
Speaker 3: There.
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Speaker 2: We've enjoyed the insights of Steve Young, one of the
Speaker 2: smartest football minds that I know, Hall of Famer, three
Speaker 2: times Super Bowl champ. Wanted to tap in one more
Speaker 2: time before we said goodbye to this season. Steve kind
Speaker 2: enough to join us once again. What will you take
Speaker 2: away from this Super Bowl? If I said there's one memory,
Speaker 2: ten years from now, you're going to think about what
Speaker 2: with this Super Bowl?
Speaker 6: Well, there's the three peat the chance to be a
Speaker 6: three p which we tried in the late eighties and
Speaker 6: the early nineties failed. And to see the emotional bankruptcy
Speaker 6: that the Chiefs showed up with, especially offensively, with that
Speaker 6: on the line, with like history on the line, it
Speaker 6: kind of feels like the Patriots when they played the
Speaker 6: Giants in two thousand and eight when they had the
Speaker 6: undefeated season. You're like, you're gonna go down as the
Speaker 6: greatest team, the greatest team that ever played. Possibly you
Speaker 6: could just you can make that argument. And to come
Speaker 6: out and emotionally lay it so flat was just shocking.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand the play calling here. You of course
Speaker 2: played the position a quarterback, but it felt like they
Speaker 2: were doing this same thing and didn't make any adjustments.
Speaker 3: What adjustments should they have made?
Speaker 6: Well, I think the problem was is that I'm sure
Speaker 6: Andy was coach Reiders probably scratching his heads like wait
Speaker 6: a second, like I'm calling some plays here and like
Speaker 6: to have no options. And then Patrick, essentially you know,
Speaker 6: you go down early. The Chiefs have done that before,
Speaker 6: go down ten nothing, It's like, okay, we'll hang around,
Speaker 6: everything will be fine. Then Patrick gives up fourteen points
Speaker 6: like that and that's where it all turned. And so
Speaker 6: like those first three or four drives, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: I should play you know three and out come up
Speaker 6: with something better than that. Everyone should take, you know,
Speaker 6: Andy should take some of that blame. Everyone should take
Speaker 6: the blame. It just felt like emotionally, when you have
Speaker 6: four guys in the game today. We talked about this
Speaker 6: every time we get on about how games change. The
Speaker 6: defense is really put under the gun. They can't rule
Speaker 6: the they can't rule like they used to. And so
Speaker 6: the low four guys, not five or six, no blitz.
Speaker 6: I don't think it blitzed one time in forty two snaps.
Speaker 6: There's just and there was nothing the threat and other
Speaker 6: than four guys just pounding you in the submission, four
Speaker 6: guys in the NFL today, defensive line should not be
Speaker 6: able at any circumstance to put you in that kind
Speaker 6: of a mind. And so to me, that's just an
Speaker 6: emotional readiness to go fight, and that they didn't have
Speaker 6: obviously the offensive line and then obviously play calling everything,
Speaker 6: everything kind of just ping Haywire.
Speaker 2: I thought that they would at least try to run
Speaker 2: Philadelphia was using Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3: They weren't getting yards, but he had twenty five carries.
Speaker 6: You look back and when you want to establish something,
Speaker 6: especially when you can't block four guys. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: that's pretty obvious Dan, that they the first three series
Speaker 6: got nothing, and you know, I think they were trying
Speaker 6: to In my mind, I think that they felt like
Speaker 6: the Eagles were going to score thirty and so that
Speaker 6: you got to keep up and wanted to start that way.
Speaker 6: I can't really go against especially play call Andy Reid,
Speaker 6: like he's always got something in his pocket. He's always
Speaker 6: got some cool play when it really matters, and so
Speaker 6: so you know, to open the game and kind of
Speaker 6: fall flat on your face is super unusual.
Speaker 2: Is this just a bad night or is there something
Speaker 2: maybe more systemic to this?
Speaker 3: Moving forward?
Speaker 6: Well, that defense is ready to play. That defense is
Speaker 6: ready to you know, I think they came and there's
Speaker 6: four or five series, they're just like, look, give us
Speaker 6: some help. And I think that for whatever reason, I
Speaker 6: don't I how can it be systemic? You got one
Speaker 6: of the great innovative play callers in the history of
Speaker 6: the game, you got one of the great quarterbacks in
Speaker 6: the game. You're gonna have to read tools. People can
Speaker 6: you know, continue to age. But there's no reason to
Speaker 6: think that what we saw at Super Bowl Sunday was
Speaker 6: even close to anything they don't want to ever do again,
Speaker 6: Like please tell me you're gonna wash your hands and
Speaker 6: move on, because that was that was not that was terrible.
Speaker 2: And I guess that we can kind of tamp down
Speaker 2: the mahomes Is on Tom Brady's heels, his greatest quarterback
Speaker 2: of all time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would have been. Yeah, the talk would have
Speaker 6: been super hot, and probably for good reason because he's
Speaker 6: got four already headed for who knows how many. You
Speaker 6: still got to figure that the AFC, with with the
Speaker 6: weapons that they have at quarterback that I said a
Speaker 6: few years ago, they're gonna trade Joe Burrow, Josh Allen
Speaker 6: and he are going to trade super Bowls for the
Speaker 6: next ten years. So far it's just been Patrick, but
Speaker 6: until for the nose, you got to figure that Patrick's
Speaker 6: gonna be in the mix.
Speaker 2: Talking to Steve Young, the three times Super Bowl champ,
Speaker 2: what's it like to go to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 2: and maybe you didn't feel this, but go to line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage knowing they're coming after you and they're getting
Speaker 2: there a whole lot more often and quicker than you
Speaker 2: thought they were going to.
Speaker 6: But see the theme. Patrick has dealt with this before.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's the guy that has an answer. He's
Speaker 6: mature to a point where he doesn't have to look
Speaker 6: far downfield. It felt like he would. He just he
Speaker 6: was looking for something great or amazing or super you know,
Speaker 6: like the Superman stuff of his early days. Would really
Speaker 6: just drop it off, get it out, blitz coverage, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, drop off the outlet like it, just like
Speaker 6: it felt like. And then also they kept getting in
Speaker 6: third and long jams every time, you like it was
Speaker 6: third and eighteen third and like, you can't play ball
Speaker 6: that way.
Speaker 2: But Brady talked about his footwork. He kept talking about
Speaker 2: how Patrick was uncomfortable. He kept looking at his footwork
Speaker 2: in the pocket.
Speaker 6: I agree with it. I think that his response felt
Speaker 6: it felt like the Bucks game the super Bowl a
Speaker 6: few years ago, where just look, we understand your under siege.
Speaker 6: We get it, but like, no, it doesn't have to
Speaker 6: go down that way. You get it, you have an answer.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're Patrick Mahomes come up with an answer,
Speaker 6: and that just and then when he did, that's when
Speaker 6: he threw the pick six, then he did and he
Speaker 6: got hit and through the next pick and all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, it's twenty four to nothing, and uh, you've
Speaker 6: just you put yourself in the you know, I'll bide,
Speaker 6: you can't get out of it.
Speaker 2: And also you know this because well you're on the
Speaker 2: winning side of it. But when things happen, the mistakes
Speaker 2: metastasize because it's the Super Bowl, like there's no tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Everything is so important, and you know if you don't
Speaker 2: score here and then the next time you press a
Speaker 2: little bit more. And it felt like that that it
Speaker 2: just that's why we used to have these blowouts in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. It felt like, man, it's just on
Speaker 2: a roll and you can't stop it.
Speaker 6: Stop it. Well, Championship football, unlike baseball, basketball, seven game series.
Speaker 6: We've talked about all the time, it happens in a
Speaker 6: series and the really, really sophisticated, mature teams recognize that
Speaker 6: and don't waste a down in championship football. And the
Speaker 6: Chiefs have gotten away with wasting a lot of downs
Speaker 6: in championsip football and still figured it out. You can
Speaker 6: make a case for the Chiefs being zero to five
Speaker 6: in Super Bowls. It's like within a whisker, two of
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers, another one with the Eagles the
Speaker 6: first time. So like they ride the rail and they've
Speaker 6: come through so many times and here all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: it just got away from them. They were down ten
Speaker 6: to nothing. They probably felt like, oh, yeah, we've been
Speaker 6: here before, we get this. We're in a little bit
Speaker 6: of a season. And that that's when when when he
Speaker 6: threw the pick six, that's when things turned haywire.
Speaker 2: I there wasn't social media when you guys were going
Speaker 2: for a three peat, but was America tired of the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers?
Speaker 6: Everyone gets like the Yankees back in the day or
Speaker 6: the Patriots for those years, like they people like to
Speaker 6: see new people. And I don't know if that's actually
Speaker 6: truly it's just a theme, but we've got to I mean,
Speaker 6: we've got to recognize them. So, especially in today's commoditized NFL,
Speaker 6: you can stay on top today, that's a heck of
Speaker 6: a thing because everything about the game is pressing you
Speaker 6: back to the median and you're getting I'm gonna stay elite.
Speaker 6: So it's shocking in today's game that people can stay
Speaker 6: on top. But it's what's amazing is as much as
Speaker 6: they try to commoditize it all, there's still ten teams
Speaker 6: that you're going to see every year because they're so
Speaker 6: well run. They have the quarterbacks that matter today, the
Speaker 6: guys that can run. Even with Jalen Hurts, you know,
Speaker 6: his legs made the game. As with every championship game
Speaker 6: into the future, will matter. The quarterback's legs will decide
Speaker 6: the game. And it happened again.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a couple other topics outside
Speaker 2: of the super Bowl. Tennessee's on the clock and maybe
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, two way player with Colorado. Dion, was on
Speaker 2: the show on Friday and he says he sees him
Speaker 2: playing both offense and defense, and it feels like he
Speaker 2: can be an all pro cornerback type talent. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you he seems a little rough as far
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver. You can get away with that
Speaker 2: in college, I don't know if you can in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Could you see Tennessee, let's say they take him using
Speaker 2: him both ways.
Speaker 6: You'd have to You can't. One thing's for sure. You
Speaker 6: can't play all pro corner without locking it down, like
Speaker 6: you can't be messing around now. Dion did what I
Speaker 6: think you could think Travis could do, which is, look,
Speaker 6: I'm going to be a shutdown all pro corner and
Speaker 6: I can run some routes. I can come in and
Speaker 6: do a couple of things. I can set up in
Speaker 6: the slot and do some cool stuff. But not full time,
Speaker 6: no way. I just the game is the two demanding
Speaker 6: athletically that you know to to put and he plays
Speaker 6: on offense and he plays on defense. It's just asking
Speaker 6: too much. And I don't think you can if he's
Speaker 6: gonna be a full time receiver and then go toy
Speaker 6: at corner. That doesn't work. You know, you know that
Speaker 6: you can't just go like, oh yeah, they kept a
Speaker 6: couple of plays at corner, You're gonna get yourself roasted.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I would have him play majority of the plays at
Speaker 2: corner and then sprinkle sprinkle the.
Speaker 6: Play off break playof pro corner. And yes, I think
Speaker 6: Dean did that with us with the forty nine ers
Speaker 6: for the year, and then he did it before, like
Speaker 6: line up, have some cool routes and do it every
Speaker 6: once in a while, be fine, red zone kind of
Speaker 6: cool stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, But how often did he say I want
Speaker 2: to play offense when he was with you guys.
Speaker 6: The super Bowl, hey Man's super Bowl. Let me run
Speaker 6: he did. He ran a couple of routes in the
Speaker 6: Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: So so he does he go to you and say
Speaker 3: I want to play or does he go to coach?
Speaker 6: He lets you know one thing about Diane, he he
Speaker 6: never wondered. He never wondered how he felt, what he
Speaker 6: was thinking. Remember I told you the time Dan when
Speaker 6: he's like he pulled me aside, said Steve, look, I'm
Speaker 6: a marketing magician. There's two parade.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: There's there. I'm gonna be the greatest work ethic have
Speaker 6: you ever seen. I'm gonna be ready for every game.
Speaker 6: But then I have this other parade that you're gonna watch.
Speaker 6: Get some popcorn and enjoy it. And I really did.
Speaker 6: He was an amazing athlete, I mean an amazing teammate.
Speaker 6: He worked harder than everybody, and then he had this
Speaker 6: other parade that he did that you know, he navigated.
Speaker 6: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: What was it like to face him? Though?
Speaker 6: He was one of the rare courts. I would imagine
Speaker 6: playing Michael Jordan. There are athletes that defy your eye.
Speaker 6: You know, you got to understand. My job is to
Speaker 6: be able to sense the speed and athleticism of who
Speaker 6: I'm throwing the ball against so that I know that
Speaker 6: the ball is safe. How many times you've seen a
Speaker 6: football thrown that's just barely out of someone's reach, you know,
Speaker 6: because you judge that and that split second knowledge. He
Speaker 6: defied that to me. There are ball the footballs that
Speaker 6: I threw that. I'm like, that's fine, and then he
Speaker 6: would not make him I'm like, wait a second, my
Speaker 6: eyeball can't can't gauge him, So I didn't. I tried
Speaker 6: not to mess with him as much, just because you
Speaker 6: couldn't make the judgment. And I feel like there are
Speaker 6: athletes that you see something, see them do something, and
Speaker 6: you go, wha wait, I gotta see that again. Because
Speaker 6: that didn't make my eye didn't cover up. It didn't
Speaker 6: make sense to me, and Michael George's probably that way
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 3: If you're Aaron Rodgers, what would you do.
Speaker 6: In today's game? Tom Brady said it best. The flats
Speaker 6: are always open, the middle of the field is unpatrolled,
Speaker 6: and no one could hit me. And by the way,
Speaker 6: I make fifty million dollars, so I think that Aaron,
Speaker 6: because he's healthy a full year. Look at the mobility
Speaker 6: is down everything else. But if you can get to
Speaker 6: a place that understands the position, has innovative mindsets. There's
Speaker 6: more and more places like that that that you can
Speaker 6: get where you can take advantage of the you know,
Speaker 6: the new football that's being played. If he can get
Speaker 6: to one of those spots, I'm sure he'd still love
Speaker 6: to go play some great football, especially with one way
Speaker 6: innovative minds. So I don't think I mean if he
Speaker 6: might be forced to retire because no one will do,
Speaker 6: you know, give him the job. But I think someone
Speaker 6: I look, you can't go to a place where it's
Speaker 6: not set up for the quarterback. I mean, just flought out,
Speaker 6: not even gonna bother with it. He already he just
Speaker 6: did that with the Jets, So you're not gonna do
Speaker 6: it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I wonder who looks at their team and says,
Speaker 2: that's what we need. He'll be the difference maker. The
Speaker 2: Jets thought that they were getting that guy, I.
Speaker 6: Know, yeah, but then I look, the one thing I
Speaker 6: do know is that he was he was taught in
Speaker 6: a more sophisticated era and Tom Brady Peyton Manning. They
Speaker 6: all took advantage of it. Matthew Stafford's taken advantage of it.
Speaker 6: This is a game that's significantly easier. I look, I
Speaker 6: like some old guy yell and I'll get off my lawn.
Speaker 6: But like, the game is significantly less sophisticated in that way,
Speaker 6: and so he can take advantage of it. And he
Speaker 6: knows that. And so if you can get to a
Speaker 6: good spot, I look, I would I would go try
Speaker 6: to take advantage, but especially if you can still run
Speaker 6: around a little bit. That's that's the game today.
Speaker 2: Did you think about coming out of retirement at any
Speaker 2: point after you've retired?
Speaker 6: You always think about it, Dan, I mean, the thing
Speaker 6: that you're you know, you're one of the best in
Speaker 6: the world is something. And then you retire and you're
Speaker 6: not You're not that anymore. And then you look out
Speaker 6: in the future you're not even good at anything else.
Speaker 6: And that's what's so camming about it, right, you're at
Speaker 6: the bottom of of I always describe it as a
Speaker 6: bottom of a bottom of a cliff. You've fallen in
Speaker 6: a bag of bones and like you gotta it's a death.
Speaker 6: And so if someone said you, hey, that thing that
Speaker 6: you're great at. You're not gonna be great at things
Speaker 6: in your whole life ever again like that that thing
Speaker 6: you're great at, let's do it again. Like, yeah, let's
Speaker 6: do that again because that's what I'm best at. So
Speaker 6: it goes through your mind for years cause you think, oh,
Speaker 6: you know, that was what I'm best at, but you
Speaker 6: have to That was like Roger stab I gave me
Speaker 6: the best advice ever, Just run, Steve. The game will
Speaker 6: never leave you, but you gotta leave it. You got
Speaker 6: to run, and so emotionally more than anything. And I
Speaker 6: think that's probably why, because you know, the next day,
Speaker 6: when you find out you're not good at even I'm
Speaker 6: not great, I'm not even good at anything else, you're like, dang,
Speaker 6: or do I get started?
Speaker 3: Did you have to retire? Did you have to? Yeah?
Speaker 6: A little bit, I think that. You know, I didn't
Speaker 6: know I could have gone to Denver. Mike Shanahan and
Speaker 6: I had long conversations about it, and uh, my wife
Speaker 6: still tells me that I was an idiot not to
Speaker 6: do it.
Speaker 3: But so no, could wait? How close were you playing
Speaker 3: for the Broncos?
Speaker 6: Closer than the Dodgers?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 6: But right, but you know what I mean like it was,
Speaker 6: it was definitely something that could have happened.
Speaker 3: Dang, and your wife said that you should do it.
Speaker 2: See that's the interesting part there that you know, usually
Speaker 2: it's the other way around, I know. H So you
Speaker 2: would have taken over for Brian Greasy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike ha heard ganging up on me. So yeah,
Speaker 6: but that's but that's the hard part again, what your
Speaker 6: best at Steve, keep doing it like yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: that's what was unusual about him.
Speaker 2: Thanks again for making time for us, Dan, You're the
Speaker 2: man same travel. Thank you about it times. That's a
Speaker 2: Steve Young Hall of Famer.
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Speaker 2: Kevin Bacon won half of the Bacon Brothers ban. They
Speaker 2: have twelve albums they've released. They re released their song
Speaker 2: Philly Thing Mister Philadelphia Eagle There. Where'd you watch the
Speaker 2: game Kevin?
Speaker 9: In New York City?
Speaker 3: How were you to watch the game with?
Speaker 9: Well? Uh, first off, I was all alone in my apartment.
Speaker 10: My wife went out to uh to dinner with a friend,
Speaker 10: and you know, there was that first call the first
Speaker 10: bat I what I consider a bad call, you know,
Speaker 10: on the first offensive play.
Speaker 9: And I think some of the neighbors were thinking, all the.
Speaker 2: Cops me, do you think that your wife went out
Speaker 2: on purpose to leave you alone to watch the game?
Speaker 10: I think maybe, yeah, I think maybe she did. But
Speaker 10: you know, as you know, I moved to UH, and
Speaker 10: she she was, she was there for UH for the
Speaker 10: second half. Kind of She's kind of a jack in
Speaker 10: the box when it comes to watching anything.
Speaker 9: She's up and down, it up and down, it up
Speaker 9: and down and Uh.
Speaker 10: The one thing that she sort of relies on when
Speaker 10: I'm watching any kind of sports is that she gets
Speaker 10: a foot massage. So that's kind of like our you know,
Speaker 10: that's that's how we work it out. That's how we've
Speaker 10: stayed married for so long. I will say that, you know,
Speaker 10: being a I moved to New York when I was seventeen,
Speaker 10: so I've been a New Yorker for a long time.
Speaker 10: And you know, I think we've probably talked about this before.
Speaker 10: I have this kind of strange relationship to New York
Speaker 10: and Philadelphia sports where you're really supposed to be on
Speaker 10: one side or the other, but you know, I'm a big,
Speaker 10: big Knicks fan as well as an Eagles fan.
Speaker 2: But the U.
Speaker 10: I found that the New Yorkers that I've run into recently,
Speaker 10: and this I'm talking about, like many people have said
Speaker 10: this to me, knowing that I was a fan of
Speaker 10: the Eagles, that they feel they're very happy for Saquon,
Speaker 10: which I think is like kind of an interesting, you
Speaker 10: know thing that they feel like, well, it's great, you know,
Speaker 10: he's doing a great job done.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you would find reverse, I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: But are you the prototypical Eagles fan, Like if you
Speaker 2: weren't famous being an actor, would you be out there
Speaker 2: celebrating taking down light poles and everything.
Speaker 3: I would not.
Speaker 9: No, I would not. I'm I'm way too into self preservation.
Speaker 2: But this Friday I wouldn't go close to Philadelphia with
Speaker 2: that parade going on.
Speaker 10: I told my sisters that they needed to stay. I've
Speaker 10: got two sisters there, and I said, go inside and
Speaker 10: stay inside. It's going to be great. It's going to
Speaker 10: be great. I'm you know, I feel I'm always very
Speaker 10: happy when not just not just for the Eagles, for
Speaker 10: or for any sports teams. Is this, if anything great
Speaker 10: happens to that city that I that I care about,
Speaker 10: and you know, it's a that's a good thing for
Speaker 10: a city.
Speaker 9: So I'm really happy.
Speaker 2: For I feel like Bradley Cooper feels like he's really
Speaker 2: close to getting in uniform and playing for the Eagles.
Speaker 10: Yep, I think, Uh, you know, he is a he
Speaker 10: is he's the definition, he's the definition of a fan.
Speaker 3: Good on him.
Speaker 9: You know, I don't know that there's a you know,
Speaker 9: who else do you have? Kevin Hart?
Speaker 10: I guess And you know, I'm trying to think of
Speaker 10: well known Philly people.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can do a Buddy's like Eagle fan movie,
Speaker 2: you and Bradley and Kevin Hart?
Speaker 9: Well yeah maybe.
Speaker 10: I mean you did do silveral Lines playbook, which is
Speaker 10: was was you know very much in that in that pocket.
Speaker 10: But it was a fun it was a fun day
Speaker 10: and and uh and and I'm happy for them.
Speaker 3: Did you cry?
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't.
Speaker 10: Well, did I get I might have gotten a little misty? Yeah,
Speaker 10: I might have gotten a little misty. Listen, it's one
Speaker 10: of those games where it's you always have to remember
Speaker 10: that a friend of mine sent send me a picture
Speaker 10: of his friend and they're both like big Giants fans,
Speaker 10: and they were watching the game and his friend Mark
Speaker 10: had fallen asleep on the couch. His head was back
Speaker 10: like this and he was completely out. And you know,
Speaker 10: for people that aren't Eagles fans, you know, it was
Speaker 10: not the most exciting, you know, thing to watch or
Speaker 10: it was you know, just kind of whatever. But I
Speaker 10: for you know, it's it's all your point of view.
Speaker 10: I thought it was a blast.
Speaker 2: Okay, But if I go back to when Foles and
Speaker 2: the Eagles beat Brady, that's different.
Speaker 9: That was different.
Speaker 10: I mean that, and plus I mean what a that
Speaker 10: was such a crazy unusual situation. I mean that whole
Speaker 10: you know, that was completely just never seen that before.
Speaker 10: I thought that was incredible. And and then how you know,
Speaker 10: ironic to have Nick Foles there, you know, I.
Speaker 9: Mean, I I will say that, you know what, what's
Speaker 9: really I feel like.
Speaker 10: There's something about Hurts that people didn't quite acknowledge. You know,
Speaker 10: there's a lot of there's a lot of talk about
Speaker 10: or a lot of feeling. I think that the that
Speaker 10: the that the team was only really it was it
Speaker 10: was having the kind of year that it was having
Speaker 10: because of Barkley.
Speaker 9: And for sure, that is true, but it was really
Speaker 9: interesting to me to see you know, the.
Speaker 3: Uh, the the.
Speaker 10: Them them shut the the defense shut Barkley down to
Speaker 10: a certain extent, and then all of a sudden, you go, wait,
Speaker 10: wait a second, this is not a this is not
Speaker 10: a team that just has this great running back.
Speaker 9: You know, this guy is He's amazing. And I gotta say,
Speaker 9: I'm not a predictor.
Speaker 10: You know, people will always say that to you, But
Speaker 10: after that game against the Commanders, I I felt pretty
Speaker 10: good about it. I thought they really I thought they'd
Speaker 10: really looked good, and I thought I thought.
Speaker 9: He looked really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think with Jalen Hurts, if you go back to
Speaker 2: when he was at Alabama and then got kicked to
Speaker 2: the curb in the national title game, transfers to Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: then gets he gets drafted in the second round and
Speaker 2: he's a backup, and it feels like he's going to
Speaker 2: be a career backup. You had Carson Wentz, he was
Speaker 2: having an MVP like season, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, maybe Brock Purdy with the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers, mister irrelevant, Like, you know, he can't be
Speaker 2: that great. He was mister irrelevant. And I think that
Speaker 2: people kind of harbored this opinion with Jalen Hurts. Oh,
Speaker 2: he can't be that good. I mean he got Alabama
Speaker 2: didn't want him, and he went to Oklahoma. He's a
Speaker 2: second round pick. But he keeps he keeps proving people wrong.
Speaker 2: And if I look at his performances in these two
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, you'd be hard pressed to find a performance
Speaker 2: like that from other quarterbacks who have been in at
Speaker 2: least two Super Bowls. These are and you lost the
Speaker 2: one where he found the ball, but he outperformed Mahomes
Speaker 2: in that game too.
Speaker 9: My wife came in at one point when he was
Speaker 9: running and sliding and she said, why is he sliding?
Speaker 10: I said, because he's such a smart quarterback, because he
Speaker 10: so knows, you know, how to you know, protect his body.
Speaker 9: It's just you get sees the big picture anyway.
Speaker 2: But he's like a supporting actor who becomes the leading actor.
Speaker 2: Like begrudgingly, you're like, wow, he's a leading actor because
Speaker 2: he's been that supporting actor.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 10: And it's also interesting because when that happens in our business,
Speaker 10: you'll see that and the first thing everybody says is,
Speaker 10: you know, I always liked him, but like JK.
Speaker 2: Simmons in Whiplash, they were like, oh wow, that guy's
Speaker 2: the leading yes, and then he ends up winning the
Speaker 2: Academy Award. Let me give you the full introduction. I
Speaker 2: jumped right to it. Kevin Bacon, He's going to be
Speaker 2: in The Bondsman for Amazon Prime Video horror series, and
Speaker 2: then you're going to be in Sirens with Julianne Moore.
Speaker 2: Then you're going to be with your wife in the
Speaker 2: Best You Can You guys haven't been together in twenty
Speaker 2: years in a movie on screen.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing, yeah, we haven't, and.
Speaker 9: That's going to be at the Tribeca Film Festival. We're
Speaker 9: really we're excited.
Speaker 10: I'm excited about all of those projects, honestly, and honestly, Dan,
Speaker 10: I just I never take it for granted that anybody
Speaker 10: has still giving me gigs. I mean, I really do
Speaker 10: appreciate it, and I've had a it was I got.
Speaker 10: All of those three parts are really really different, and
Speaker 10: that's the thing that is my life's blood, you know,
Speaker 10: being able to walk in different men's shoes, and I'm
Speaker 10: just so grateful that I.
Speaker 9: Still get a chance to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you probably get these roles because you don't
Speaker 2: take it for granted, like you're it just feels like, hey,
Speaker 2: what do you.
Speaker 3: Need me to do? I can do that.
Speaker 2: That's really been my like there's an everyman feel to you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel that way, but it's like, what.
Speaker 9: Do you what do you need to do? I'll say
Speaker 9: what it is is that someone will say what do
Speaker 9: you need me to do? And I'll say I can
Speaker 9: do that, even if I know that.
Speaker 3: Probably how much fun is it to play a bad guy?
Speaker 9: Oh, it's great. I love playing bad guys.
Speaker 10: I mean I have to say though, that that a
Speaker 10: lot of there's there's sort of this idea that bad
Speaker 10: guys are are more fun. I think it's mostly that
Speaker 10: writers sometimes have more fun writing them, because if.
Speaker 6: You are the.
Speaker 10: Hero, you know, you kind of know that you're gonna
Speaker 10: save the day, and and so I think sometimes writers
Speaker 10: will even and sort of focus a little bit more
Speaker 10: on the on the antagonist and and just figure that
Speaker 10: the actor who's playing the hero is just going to
Speaker 10: deliver his heroic stuff. So when it comes to playing
Speaker 10: good guys, like the guy in the Bondsman is certainly
Speaker 10: the hero of the show.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's he's.
Speaker 10: Battling demons from hell. He's become up like a bounty
Speaker 10: hunter for the Devil. But he's a But what's fun
Speaker 10: about that part is that he's he's kind of a mess,
Speaker 10: you know, he is he's not the bad guy, but
Speaker 10: he's got a lot of bad stuff in his past
Speaker 10: and he's made a lot of mistakes and and he
Speaker 10: is a complicated character. So for me, it's less about
Speaker 10: bad and good and more about is it does the
Speaker 10: character have layers and his character complicated.
Speaker 3: City on a Hill was great, but but we're done
Speaker 3: with that, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: We did three seasons.
Speaker 10: That was three and out. I mean I was, you know,
Speaker 10: I'm happy to get the three. I would have loved
Speaker 10: to have kept doing it. I really liked playing that guy.
Speaker 10: But he was a very uh he was a very.
Speaker 9: Complicated guy to say the least.
Speaker 10: And you know, Alvis Hodge, who was you know, kind
Speaker 10: of my my, uh, you know, colleague so to speak
Speaker 10: in that in that unlikely colleague in that show was fantastic.
Speaker 10: He was, he was, Yeah, I'm sure you ever known.
Speaker 10: I mean, these things sometimes they circle back around who knows.
Speaker 2: But none of these like you're not a sequel guy.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at a lot of these movies. Is
Speaker 2: there a movie that out of the ones you've done,
Speaker 2: where you go, you know what, you could have done
Speaker 2: a sequel? Well?
Speaker 9: Uh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 10: I mean I I What I will say is that
Speaker 10: the only movie that I've really the first off, they
Speaker 10: I did this movie called Tremors, and they made about
Speaker 10: nine sequels, but I wasn't in them. And that's always
Speaker 10: been the movie that I've thought to myself, it would
Speaker 10: be fun to revisit because just because the character was
Speaker 10: you know, so I just found the character kind of
Speaker 10: funny and it was interesting. He was such an ordinary
Speaker 10: guy and had this extraordinary situation where these worms were underground,
Speaker 10: and you know, and then if you saw him many
Speaker 10: years later, and we actually developed it for a television
Speaker 10: series and shot a pilot of it, and I really
Speaker 10: thought it was great and had a good time doing it,
Speaker 10: and then it.
Speaker 9: Did get picked up.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at this list. There has to be
Speaker 2: a movie where you go, I don't know about this,
Speaker 2: where you're talking to your wife. So Apollo thirteen, foot Loose, JFK,
Speaker 2: Few Good Men, Diner, Mystic River, Animal House, wild things,
Speaker 2: like which one were you? Like?
Speaker 3: I got some trepidation about this.
Speaker 10: Definitely tremors. I had a little bit of t repredation
Speaker 10: about uh wild things. You know, sometimes you think to yourself,
Speaker 10: we're making something that's kind of tongue in cheek and
Speaker 10: and you know, sort of.
Speaker 9: Over like like like kind of big.
Speaker 10: It's like a big swing, you know in terms of
Speaker 10: like all the stuff that was going on there, and
Speaker 10: you kind of think, to yourself, are people.
Speaker 3: Going to get that?
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't know. It's it's a little over the top.
Speaker 10: But but listen, I mean I I I go into
Speaker 10: every one of them once. I once I say yes,
Speaker 10: and you know, we have a deal in place and
Speaker 10: the and we are going to start.
Speaker 9: I have to believe that they have a chance, like
Speaker 9: I don't. I don't go in saying yeah, this is
Speaker 9: probably not going to work. I just I it doesn't.
Speaker 9: It doesn't make for a good working situation for me.
Speaker 9: I want to go to work and feel like I'm,
Speaker 9: you know, doing my best.
Speaker 3: Did you keep anything from Apollo thirteenth? They let you
Speaker 3: keep your suit?
Speaker 10: I have a little piece I do in my suit now.
Speaker 10: I have a little actually in the other room. It's
Speaker 10: funny you mentioned that I have a little piece of
Speaker 10: I think I have a little piece of the shell of.
Speaker 9: The actual lunar module. Maybe it's it's some little or
Speaker 9: maybe it's a piece of a suit. I'm not sure.
Speaker 10: That was an incredible experience, listen. I mean that was amazing.
Speaker 10: We actually, you know, in those days, if you wanted to,
Speaker 10: you know, simulate zero gravity, there was really no way
Speaker 10: to do. I mean, you could do it with like
Speaker 10: harnesses and stuff that they took out, but it was
Speaker 10: very rudimentary compared to what you can do now with
Speaker 10: the computer generated images. So we actually went up in
Speaker 10: a zero G airplane and did you know loops, Yeah,
Speaker 10: did you throw up? I did not, but I had was.
Speaker 10: I felt sick for sure. I mean we did it
Speaker 10: six hundred times. And and so the NASA gave you
Speaker 10: very very strong anti nausea drugs, and I remember that
Speaker 10: Tom Hanks and Bill Paxton decided one day to kind
Speaker 10: of cowboy it out and not.
Speaker 9: Take the take it and they did not look good
Speaker 9: through the day, but they were extremely sick.
Speaker 2: Great to have you back on the show. Good luck
Speaker 2: with all of these projects, and more importantly, congratulations on
Speaker 2: your your Eagles fly.
Speaker 3: Eagles fly there, keV. Thanks a lot man, Thanks for
Speaker 3: having me, Kevin Bacon