WEBVTT - Tech News: Facebook is so Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of all things tech. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the tech news for Thursday, September nine, twenty one. And

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<v Speaker 1>before I jump into the news, I want to address

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<v Speaker 1>something I said earlier this week about political groups using

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to gain data from various companies, you know, companies

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<v Speaker 1>like telecommunications companies or internet service providers or social media platforms, etcetera. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically data about and belonging to other politicians. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks reached out to me and made some really

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<v Speaker 1>good points, you know, kind of in opposition to what

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying. I spent a lot of time thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about my perspective and I tried to really critically analyze it,

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<v Speaker 1>and just as a reminder, I said that generally I

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<v Speaker 1>am against the idea of politicians doing this because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it can lead to a situation in which whatever

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<v Speaker 1>political party happens to be in power can use that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leverage to disempower the other party, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is fundamentally antithetical to the democratic process. However, I also

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<v Speaker 1>have to acknowledge that if there is a criminal investigation

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<v Speaker 1>and if there's a sufficient evidence to support a subpoena,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't just make a subpoena, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to file for one and get a court appointed subpoena.

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<v Speaker 1>If that is the case, then investigators should exercise that

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<v Speaker 1>to look at data and see what it holds with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to a crime, and that telecommunications companies and I

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<v Speaker 1>s p s and whatnot should obey subpoenas if those

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<v Speaker 1>subpoenas are legally valid. I'm still wary of this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of approach snowballing beyond situations that appear to be justified,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we were talking about the January six insurrection. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a very high stakes, specific situation. But as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>justifications can get pretty loosey goosey as time goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>So like once you start to chip away it's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be super careful or or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole damn breaks and you get flooded. But under

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<v Speaker 1>very controlled circumstances, I think seeking out that information can

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<v Speaker 1>be valid if if all those processes are followed. I

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<v Speaker 1>just worry that we'll lose a grip on those controls.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, just full disclosure. It is not easy

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<v Speaker 1>for me to amend my thoughts because, like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks, when I form an opinion, I'm loath to

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<v Speaker 1>change it. But critical thinking says I need to resist

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<v Speaker 1>that urge, and sometimes I actually managed to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not nearly as frequently as I should, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get that all the way first. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go on to the news in Israel. Hacker using the

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<v Speaker 1>handle Sung Council, and I apologize. I'm sure I've mispronounced

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<v Speaker 1>that claims to have stolen personal information from seven million Israeli's. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if like me, you wondered how many people live in Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>a quick search tells you it's a little more than

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<v Speaker 1>nine million. It's like almost nine and a half million.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this claim is true, then that means the

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<v Speaker 1>hacker got access to the personal information of nearly everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel. The hacker says that they targeted a website

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<v Speaker 1>called City for You. That's c I t Y the

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<v Speaker 1>number for and the letter you, and Israel uses that

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<v Speaker 1>as sort of a payment processing utility, so folks can

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<v Speaker 1>pay stuff like fines or bills and their taxes through

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<v Speaker 1>this site. The hacker has shared images of documents that

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<v Speaker 1>they claimed to have stolen from this website and included

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<v Speaker 1>documentation with like personal details like like I D Cards

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<v Speaker 1>and tax bill. Is that kind of thing? The hacker

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<v Speaker 1>says that they want to sell this data off to

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<v Speaker 1>interest ad buyers on the black market. Uh. The National

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<v Speaker 1>Cyber Directorate meanwhile, says that they don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a legit claim. They say that they believe these documents

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<v Speaker 1>that the hacker has released actually come from an older

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<v Speaker 1>document leak, and that it's unlikely the hacker has actually

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<v Speaker 1>stolen that much data. But that's all the information I

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<v Speaker 1>have as of right now. Several news outlets report that

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles police officers have been directed to ask people

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<v Speaker 1>to hand over social media details and have been doing

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<v Speaker 1>so for years, and that includes stuff like the handles

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<v Speaker 1>that people use online, and that was whenever the police

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<v Speaker 1>stopped anyone, even if that person wasn't a suspect of

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of crime. So a cops stops someone in

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<v Speaker 1>l A and then asks them to reveal their social

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<v Speaker 1>media handles, which seems weird right, also a little invasive,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason we even know about This officially

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<v Speaker 1>is because a nonprofit New York University agency called the

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<v Speaker 1>Brennan Center for Justice filed a request under California's Public

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<v Speaker 1>Records Act and wanted to learn how the l a

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<v Speaker 1>p D uses social media as a means to monitor

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<v Speaker 1>and conduct surveillance on people. The l a p D

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<v Speaker 1>declined to acquiesce to that request, so the agency brought

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<v Speaker 1>the matter to the California Superior Court, at which point

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<v Speaker 1>the l a p D said it's a fair cup

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<v Speaker 1>and handed over the information, which included around six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pages of documentation. And this practice appears to have been

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<v Speaker 1>in place for several years, like I mentioned, with cops

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<v Speaker 1>regularly collecting social media information presumably for the purposes of surveillance,

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<v Speaker 1>and again that was for everyone, whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>were suspected of being involved in a crime. The documentation

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<v Speaker 1>also showed that the l a p D had been

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring specific hashtags for activity on social media, such as

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<v Speaker 1>black Lives Matter. Once again we see how the combination

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<v Speaker 1>of our social interactions online and a surveillance state can

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<v Speaker 1>converge into a pretty nasty horror show of a scenario. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>fun times when it comes to talking about misinformation and

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<v Speaker 1>disinformation online. I usually end up talking about Facebook, Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and YouTube, but US Senator Elizabeth Warren has issue with

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon's role in the matter as well. Warren says that

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<v Speaker 1>her staff, while searching for materials about COVID nineteen and

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<v Speaker 1>vaccines on Amazon, received results that included books dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>spreading falsehoods about those issues, and Warren wrote, quote, as

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<v Speaker 1>cases of COVID nineteen continue to rise, Amazon is feeding

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation loops through its search and best seller algorithms, potentially

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<v Speaker 1>leading countless Americans to risk their health and the health

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<v Speaker 1>of their neighbors based on misleading and inaccurate information that

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<v Speaker 1>they discover on Amazon's website end quote. Warren's office is

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<v Speaker 1>asking Amazon to view its recommendation algorithm and to weed

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<v Speaker 1>out dangerous misinformation. The company has yet to reply as

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<v Speaker 1>of the recording of this podcast. Microsoft, in a move

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is pretty wise, has decided to postpone

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<v Speaker 1>indefinitely a return to the Microsoft headquarters in Washington State.

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<v Speaker 1>This postponement also applies to Microsoft's other offices around the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, and the reason, of course, is the ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic and the dangers of COVID nineteen Originally, the company

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<v Speaker 1>had planned for employees to come back to the office

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<v Speaker 1>by October four, but now there is no return date

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<v Speaker 1>in place, which is probably for the best because things

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<v Speaker 1>are changing so quickly, it really saves time having to

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<v Speaker 1>push those return dates around. In fact, company executives have

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<v Speaker 1>said that the uncertainty around COVID nineteen is precisely why

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<v Speaker 1>they won't set a new target return date. Further, they

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<v Speaker 1>said that when that time does come, when they do

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident that they can go back to the office,

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<v Speaker 1>employees will have a month long transition period to readjust

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<v Speaker 1>for that reality. Now we've seen several tech companies shift

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<v Speaker 1>their expected return dates. Google, Apple, Facebook, and others all

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<v Speaker 1>planned to return earlier, you know, this year and into

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<v Speaker 1>the fall, but now most of them have pushed that

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<v Speaker 1>back to twenty twenty two. One other bit of Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>related news, the company has announced that it is updating

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<v Speaker 1>it's Microsoft Teams product, which is a virtual meeting software solution,

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<v Speaker 1>and the update will incorporate Teams features into car Play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Apple standard that let's say Vehicles Entertainment System

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<v Speaker 1>act as the user interface for an iOS device, So

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<v Speaker 1>you pair your iPhone with your car's entertainment system. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you can control your iPhone through the car system. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this means that if you do have an iOS device

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<v Speaker 1>with Microsoft Teams installed on it, and if you're connected

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<v Speaker 1>via car Play to your car, you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>join in Microsoft Teams meetings from the comfort of your

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<v Speaker 1>car seat, uh in a very sameless way. You can

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<v Speaker 1>even use Siri to do it. This feature only supports

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<v Speaker 1>audio mode, so folks will not see video of you

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<v Speaker 1>as you do mad drifts around the street corners with

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<v Speaker 1>the fam. Microsoft also announced several other updates Teams that

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<v Speaker 1>do not involve vehicles, such as additional features the team's

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<v Speaker 1>mobile app to make it easier to access chat and

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<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft white Board. Today, Facebook and ray Ban introduced

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<v Speaker 1>some smart glasses called ray Ban Stories. They cost two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine dollars eight princely some so what do

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<v Speaker 1>they do? While? They've got to five megapixel cameras built

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<v Speaker 1>into the frames, one at either corner on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes. They have speakers built into the stems on

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<v Speaker 1>the frames so you can listen to audio from a

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<v Speaker 1>connected device. They've got a physical button that you can

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<v Speaker 1>use to take photos or record videos, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>use voice commands to activate the cameras. They do not

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<v Speaker 1>have any sort of in lens display, so these glasses

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<v Speaker 1>are not capable of providing any sort of augmented reality experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Nor can you see the photos that you've just taken

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<v Speaker 1>with the glasses themselves. To do that, you will need

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<v Speaker 1>to use a connected phone and open up an app

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<v Speaker 1>called Facebook View, which is kind of like a simple

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<v Speaker 1>photo camera roll app. And these don't sound that different

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<v Speaker 1>from the Snapchat glasses we saw a while back, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to admit that these glasses look like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sunglasses. They don't look clunky or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a need for glasses that will

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<v Speaker 1>let you take photos without using your hands, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>these could fit the bill for a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure there's a strong use case. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>I were wearing these and going kayaking or something, I

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<v Speaker 1>could use the glasses to take photos and I could

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<v Speaker 1>leave my phone behind so I don't have to worry about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dunking it in the water. Although the glasses

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<v Speaker 1>are also not waterproof, They're not meant to get wet,

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<v Speaker 1>but the glasses can hold up to around five those

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<v Speaker 1>or are somewhere around ten to twelve thirty second video

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<v Speaker 1>clips before you would need to offload them from the

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<v Speaker 1>glasses into some other device, and they connect via WiFi

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<v Speaker 1>to authorized devices and then they synchronize using that Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>View app I was talking about. So from the description

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<v Speaker 1>I read, it sounds like you could use them to

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<v Speaker 1>take photos without being directly connected to some other device.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes them different from some other gadgets that I've used,

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<v Speaker 1>where they were kind of conduits for your smartphone. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They sound interesting, but I don't think I'll be putting

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<v Speaker 1>them on my holiday wish list. We've got some more

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<v Speaker 1>stories to cover, but before we get to that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. We're back and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk some more about Facebook and organization in the UK

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<v Speaker 1>called Global Witnesses accusing Facebook of being negligent when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to making certain that's advertising platform is not using

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<v Speaker 1>discriminatory targeting of advertising to users. Now, that's essentially to

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<v Speaker 1>say that Facebook was not stopping companies from breaking equality

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<v Speaker 1>laws by specifically targeting some subgroups while specifically excluding others,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the job category. The group did an experiment

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<v Speaker 1>to see what kind of advertisements might be shown to

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<v Speaker 1>different types of people, and in that experiment they found

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<v Speaker 1>that for certain categories of products or services, nearly all

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<v Speaker 1>the ads would be shown to one gender or the other. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if it was an ad for a mechanic,

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost a guarantee that that ad would only

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<v Speaker 1>be displayed to a male Facebook user. If it were

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<v Speaker 1>a nursery nurse, it would almost be guaranteed it would

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<v Speaker 1>only be shown to a female Facebook user. In another experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>the group sent two job ads to Facebook, with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ads saying Facebook should not show that ad

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<v Speaker 1>to women, and the other saying that Facebook should not

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<v Speaker 1>show that add to anyone older than Facebook did approve

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<v Speaker 1>both of those ads. However, it also sent back a

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<v Speaker 1>little message to the group to Global Witness, saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to acknowledge that you promise you won't discriminate

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<v Speaker 1>against these groups by taking this little box. However, if

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook actually was only showing the ad to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that were designated by Global Witness, then it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds to me like you can't avoid discrimination. Like just

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<v Speaker 1>the very nature of the fact that you have limited

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<v Speaker 1>the ad so that you know certain groups can't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems at least that it's facilitating discrimination. Now, whether

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<v Speaker 1>this escalates to UK government action remains to be seen. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian government continues to make decisions that I think

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<v Speaker 1>are ill advised. I talked about the Surveillance Bill earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week that would allow law enforcement to potentially alter

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<v Speaker 1>a person's online posts without their consent. But now I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about something else. A decision that was

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<v Speaker 1>made by the Australian High Court that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Supreme Court. That court found that Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>users can be held liable for content posted by people

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<v Speaker 1>who are commenting on their posts. So if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to post something on Facebook, let's say it's even something

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a goofy meme, it's totally harmless, and then

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<v Speaker 1>someone else leaves a comment that includes like a threat

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<v Speaker 1>or libelous content, then you could be held responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the post of that person because, according to the court,

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<v Speaker 1>you're effectively a publisher from that moment forward. Your original

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<v Speaker 1>post is a publication platform, so someone leaving a comment

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<v Speaker 1>is being published through you, and as a publisher, you

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<v Speaker 1>can be held liable for the stuff they post without

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<v Speaker 1>your control. At least, if I'm understanding this, correctly. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes now. To be fair, this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was really more about news media outlets and their Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>pages posting content and then not modoring the moments that

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<v Speaker 1>were left under that content. But the implications extend well

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<v Speaker 1>beyond those companies, Like you could see how this could

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<v Speaker 1>quickly become a true nightmare in other news, Twitter is

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<v Speaker 1>starting a rollout of a new feature called Communities. I

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<v Speaker 1>say it's new, but it sounds like this particular feature

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<v Speaker 1>has actually languished in development at Twitter for half a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>The ideas that you can create a community of users

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<v Speaker 1>focused on a particular subject, like I don't know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel Cinematic Universe. Okay, you've got a Marvel Cinematic Universe

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter community as so you can apply to Twitter to

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<v Speaker 1>create the community. You can't just make it yourself, at

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<v Speaker 1>least not right now. And then once it's created, folks

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<v Speaker 1>can join that community, and then you can tweet to

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<v Speaker 1>that community in particular, and you spare everyone else who

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<v Speaker 1>follows you all of your endless theories about how Mephisto

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<v Speaker 1>is most definitely going to end up being the one

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<v Speaker 1>who is responsible for all the bad stuff going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the m c U these days. Now, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>applied to create a community around tech so that I

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<v Speaker 1>can send tech related takes there and anyone who follows

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<v Speaker 1>me just for my dad jokes or pictures of my dog,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiblet can be spared. All the talk about the Hoosts

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<v Speaker 1>and Watsons galore. I'm not sure if this feature is

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<v Speaker 1>actually gonna drive more engagement on Twitter. That's something that

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<v Speaker 1>the company has really been concerned with, because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter adoption has really leveled off, so in order for

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<v Speaker 1>the company to show value, it needs to drive more engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter has previously launched features that didn't catch on in

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<v Speaker 1>the platform later abandoned them. So we'll have to see

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll let you know if they approve my request

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<v Speaker 1>to create that community. And finally, some quick stories to

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<v Speaker 1>end out today's episode, The James Webb Space Telescope has

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<v Speaker 1>a new launch date. If all goes well, the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>should finally let slip the bonds of Earth on December.

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<v Speaker 1>The telescope has had a long and sometimes rough journey

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<v Speaker 1>over the years to get to this point. The launch

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<v Speaker 1>has had several delays over that time, and the James

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<v Speaker 1>Webb Space telescope is in many ways the spiritual successor

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hubble telescope and has the potential to allow

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<v Speaker 1>us to learn more about how our galaxy works. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a super interesting piece of technology. And heck, I even

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<v Speaker 1>have a tattoo because of this telescope. I even got

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<v Speaker 1>that tattoo while on camera for an episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>show Forward Thinking that I used to host. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a video of me getting tattooed with a

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo that's inspired by the James Webbs James web Space telescope. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I really hope it all works out and that we

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<v Speaker 1>see the telescope triumphantly take its place in orbit. Later

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<v Speaker 1>this year, in Iceland, an enormous facility called Orca has

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<v Speaker 1>come online. And Orca's purpose is to capture carbon dioxide

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<v Speaker 1>from the air and lock it into mineral form. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a carbon capture and sequestration facility. In other words. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before you start to think that we've got the climate

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<v Speaker 1>issue solved thanks to this technology, let's talk limitations. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest carbon capture facility in the world up

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<v Speaker 1>to this point, and according to the companies that are

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, it will be able to capture around four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand tons of carbon dioxide out of the air each year.

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<v Speaker 1>The US Environmental Protection Agency says that's approximately equal to

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of carbon emissions generated by eight seventy cars

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<v Speaker 1>running on internal combustion engines, presumably in a year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fewer than a thousand cars. There are millions of

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<v Speaker 1>cars out there, not to mention airplanes, coal plants, oil refineries,

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<v Speaker 1>and other sources of carbon dioxide emissions. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to remember that carbon capture, while it can

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<v Speaker 1>be a critical component of mitigating the problems of climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>is only part of that solution. We cannot look at

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<v Speaker 1>carbon capture as absolving us of the responsibility to cut

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<v Speaker 1>back on carbon emissions. Unfortunately, that's how the practice often

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<v Speaker 1>gets marketed. I see a lot of companies saying, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to cut back. We'll just catch the

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<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide using this facility, and we'll just keep on

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff the way we always have. Maybe we'll even

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<v Speaker 1>crank up the carbon emissions. Now, the truth of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is, we just can't do that. We cannot keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with that kind of approach. Finally, the Stanford Computational

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<v Speaker 1>imaging lab or at least a paper describing a really

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<v Speaker 1>cool technology. Cool and a little creepy. They developed a

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<v Speaker 1>new non line of sight imaging tech and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what it sounds like. It's technology that can take

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<v Speaker 1>images of stuff that isn't in the actual line of

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<v Speaker 1>sight of the imaging technology or you know, like the lens.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may have heard about cameras that can quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote see around corners. Well, that's a subset of this

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<v Speaker 1>type of technology, and the way it works is not

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<v Speaker 1>that different from echolocation. A camera will include a light

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<v Speaker 1>emitter and it shoots out light, perhaps outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>visible spectrum, that goes out ahead of the camera. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you're going down a hallway and the hallway

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<v Speaker 1>has a ninety degree corner in it, so it turns

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<v Speaker 1>off to the left and you're using this, uh this device,

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<v Speaker 1>and some light is coming out of the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the device. It hits the corner that you're facing, bounces

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<v Speaker 1>off the corner, it goes off to the left side.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that light could encounter an object, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Bobba duke, and then some of that light

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<v Speaker 1>bounces off the Bobba duke, and it goes back around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner and hits your sensor on your device, and

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<v Speaker 1>the camera picks up this returning light and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something around that corner and you should probably definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not go that way now. Again. It's it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like you know echolocation or laser range finders or speed

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<v Speaker 1>tracking devices. Well, the Stanford Group developed a tech that

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<v Speaker 1>they call keyhole imaging because you could, in theory, set

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<v Speaker 1>up a device to shine a laser beam through a

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<v Speaker 1>keyhole or a crack in a wall to hit a

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<v Speaker 1>single point on the opposite side of a closed door,

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<v Speaker 1>So like on the wall opposite of the door. So

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine you're kneeling at a door it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>keyhole in it, one of those classic ones, and you

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<v Speaker 1>stick this device and it's got its a little laser pointer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it shoots the laser across the room and it

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<v Speaker 1>hits the wall on the other side. Well, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the photons and that laser beam are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing off of all the different stuff that's in that room,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of those bouncing photons will actually make their

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<v Speaker 1>way back to a sensor paired with the laser and

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<v Speaker 1>by measuring the time of travel for those photons, software

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out if stuff is actually moving around on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of that door. Now I should add

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<v Speaker 1>that moving around part is important. The researchers have noted

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<v Speaker 1>that this method, which uses less surface area than the

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<v Speaker 1>older non light on site imaging technologies, is really limited

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<v Speaker 1>in the amount of information it can gather. If the

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<v Speaker 1>room is static, if nothing is moving there, you really

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<v Speaker 1>can't get a bead on what's inside the room. But

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<v Speaker 1>if there is stuff moving around, with enough time, you

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<v Speaker 1>can gather data to gain an idea of what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that's moving around in there, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory of its pathway. So this tech could be useful

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<v Speaker 1>in everything from military applications to integrations with car navigation

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<v Speaker 1>and driver assist systems. And it's just kind of neat

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<v Speaker 1>when you think that this tech, which sounds like it

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<v Speaker 1>belongs in a Mission Impossible movie, could get all that

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<v Speaker 1>information just by shining a laser light through a small

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<v Speaker 1>hole in an otherwise sealed off room. And that's it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode of tech Stuff. If you have any

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<v Speaker 1>stories you would want me to cover, or any technologies

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<v Speaker 1>you would like me to cover in future episodes reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to me. The best way to do that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>before I get that community going anyway, is just to

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