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Speaker 1: Fick's right throw through the end zone in the past

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Speaker 3: he can see you that when he did, he didn't

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00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,199
Speaker 3: see me, so I was a little bit easier, but

434
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: it felt great. I would just kind of always have

435
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 3: self talk with myself, and I told myself and you

436
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 3: got to get on the board. Like understand, it is

437
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 3: a long season, and I don't I'm trying not to press,

438
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 3: but I feel like this is a good opportunity and

439
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 3: good game for me to do that. I have had

440
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 3: success against them, so hope this game is a game

441
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 3: where I kind of just have that. Okay, now I'm

442
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 3: wrapping up, I'm ready to go. I'm getting to a

443
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 3: type of feel and them not seeing you. You have

444
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: this ability to strike because of your arm length. Yeah,

445
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: how much of that is a weapon for you and

446
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 3: your ability to kind of sneak up on somebody. Yeah.

447
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: I love being on the blind side, honestly because my

448
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: first thought, Puss has stripped the ball. They can't see me,

449
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: they don't know I'm coming, and once they do realize,

450
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: it's kind of like panic mode. So yeah, I mean

451
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 3: being on the blind side for me and my career

452
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: has been something I've liked and I just want to

453
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 3: try and continue again get it going.

454
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 2: I think it's funny when you're moved inside too, though,

455
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: because the guards can't handle your length. They're like freaking out.

456
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 2: I remember when we first signed you, Mitch immediately sent

457
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 2: me the clip of you sacking Pat back in like

458
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 2: twenty yeah eighteen.

459
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, changed the whole Yeah, and we're like, finally we.

460
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: Got this guy on our side now, yeah, yeah, that

461
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: was that was I remember that was the day that

462
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: JJ told me I got his respect now. Oh yeah, yeah.

463
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: That was a that was a game where where uh

464
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: JJ kind of looked at me as a guy that

465
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: can help out, you know. So I memories like that

466
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 3: always put a smile on my face. And just like

467
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 3: I said, just keeps me up be as far as

468
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 3: like soler starts will get you. You've you've done this,

469
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: you know, you've you've done this, You've you're You're all good.

470
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: Just kind of just continue, just push, push and and

471
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: and eventually a fall for you.

472
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: You have a reminded Pat of that moment, Nah, I have.

473
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: I think when I first when I first got here,

474
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 3: Pat had mentioned it, but that that's that's one of

475
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 3: my that definitely when I when I in my house,

476
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: is definitely a photo of me.

477
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, I was jumping up and down

478
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: when we got you because that was that's the play

479
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: I remembered that was burned into my head. Uh. Just

480
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: where this defense can go now from here on and

481
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just first level but all three levels.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can continue just to now getting

483
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: the point of dominating where it's not like, oh we

484
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: had a good game, like a surprising where it's like

485
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: back to how it was last year and especially in

486
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 3: twenty three, wheld just like this is what we do.

487
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 3: So I think we just continue to build the first

488
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: quarter of the season is going to end after this game,

489
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 3: So I think when you look over this first quarter,

490
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 3: of the season. This first four games, you will see

491
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: that of the defense has improven and continue to build

492
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: from that.

493
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Speaker 2: One thing we talked about a lot is actually, since

494
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: you've got here, it's twenty twenty three. Since Week one,

495
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: you guys own the number one scoring defense in the NFL.

496
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: Mad you know that. I did not know that. Yeah,

497
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: so you've a.

498
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: Lot of the fewest points per game of any team

499
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Speaker 2: in the league since then. Obviously want to keep it going.

500
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about one of your teammates though,

501
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: in Ashton Julyati. It seems like he has a lot

502
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: of juice. Got the kickblock last week, I think against

503
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Speaker 2: the Giants. What's impressed you about Ashton? He blocked the

504
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: extra point?

505
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

506
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: Oh really, I think that was them?

507
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh no.

508
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Speaker 3: I mean Ashton is a first of all, a great

509
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: rookie first and foremost. I think Ashton has a bright

510
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: future ahead of him, very promising player. I think Aston

511
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: just I mean blocking the kick as well, high ef

512
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: fort and not and not stopping going hard and that

513
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: he's a symbol of that. That's the first thing that

514
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: you can see that pops out. And I think he

515
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: has really good ability of Bendon has good hand usage,

516
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 3: and it's physical. So you have those things and you're

517
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: able to coach over coach Joe. I think it would

518
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: be a really good player for the for the future

519
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 3: and continue high school.

520
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Speaker 1: Humble. You were humble? Yeah, no your high school? High school? Yeah,

521
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: so do you hoop? No? I did not? How did

522
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: you not play? That was awesome at it?

523
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: If I'm the basketball coach, like I did track it,

524
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: I did tracking football?

525
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, hoop. Ever, ever, like eighth grade, you're

526
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: like Rogers.

527
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Speaker 3: I really just like fell in love with football and

528
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: stuck with football like all year around. That's all I

529
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Speaker 3: really did thought about.

530
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Speaker 1: Can't you remember the basketball coach like walking every class.

531
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Speaker 2: He's got Charles giving it a chance.

532
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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, because we're talking about the one two two

533
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: zone in this because two teams at one and two,

534
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: somebody's going to and two. Yeah. Right. The importance of

535
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: this game beyond what's obvious.

536
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's a very important game. Obviously,

537
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: you don't want to be winning three. Guy, that won't

538
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: be good. But you know, winning this game continues to

539
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: build momentum. You know, one team is coming off the lost,

540
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: one team is coming off a wins. So both teams

541
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: are hungry. We're hungry to get now kind of build

542
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: a little winner streak, and they're hungry to kind of

543
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: get that our taste out their mouth. So it's gonna

544
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: be a good game, always been a good game versus them.

545
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: Great organization, coach, Harball, great coach, and so they have

546
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: great player there, and so this is gonna be one

547
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: of those games. And just got buckle up and be

548
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: ready to rock.

549
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Speaker 1: To the basketball coach at Rolette, Texas, we are really

550
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: sorry that he didn't play hoop and he's going to

551
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: make a big play in this one. Number ninety Charles

552
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: A man who yes, sir, what do I feel sorry

553
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: for that? Rolett, Texas high school basketball coach?

554
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

555
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Charles in the hallway going what's he doing?

556
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: He's in track, like, oh my gosh, just standing under

557
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: the basket in block shots. He has such a wingspan. Yeah,

558
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: and we've seen it so many times. That sneaky, you know,

559
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: strip the ball. Remember the game week eighteen, the glorious

560
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: win in twenty twenty three over the Chargers when he

561
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: got easton stick and you never see him coming. That's

562
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: the cool thing. Now, Derrick Henry's fumbled in three straight games,

563
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: which is phenomenal, and that's been at the crux of

564
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: the critical point of the game and both of the

565
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: losses to the Bills and then on Monday Night Football

566
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: to the Lions. So I don't think you can bank

567
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: on Derrick Henry fumbling again. He's going to protect that

568
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: ball with his life. But still this defense to get

569
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: two takeaways for the Chiefs defense against the Giants I

570
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: thought was good because it just kind of gets them

571
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: in the flow at all three levels to not only

572
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: stop him tackling. You mentioned it before the men who

573
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: interview that the Lions were superb tacklers. You have to

574
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: be in this game and then maybe look for your

575
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: chance to take the ball.

576
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: Can I highlight how good our defense was for a second?

577
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: I feel like the goalposts for like the national media

578
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: are constantly moving when it comes to the Chiefs because

579
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: they look at this defensive performance from last week and say, ah,

580
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: well the Giants are zero and three and they just

581
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: benched Truss. Well, the Giants in week two went crazy

582
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: for four hundred and fifty passing yards over five hundred

583
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: yards of offense. Wondale Robinson and Elik Neighbors combined for

584
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: seventeen grabs, three hundred and nine yards and three touchdowns,

585
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: and coming into Sunday Night Football, they're feeling pretty good.

586
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: I mean, they showed what they could do offensively right well,

587
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: the Chiefs completely shut them down throughout that game, just

588
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: complete domination. New York goes one of ten on third

589
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: down and one of four on fourth down in that game.

590
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: They got crazy pressure on Russell Wilson throughout. I kind

591
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: of mentioned it with Charles, but Chris Jones had seven pressures,

592
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: George carloftis seven pressures, and Omar Norman Lott had five pressures.

593
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: Almost destroyed. Russ had that sack or near sack where

594
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: he went over him someone else cleaned up. But the

595
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: best part of the performance, in my opinion, was they

596
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: got pressure on fifty four percent of Wilson's dropbacks, only

597
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: blitzed six times jack gamming, so their front four was

598
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: getting wins going into that game. The Chiefs were blitzing

599
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: at like a forty five percent clip, which if it

600
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: gets home, that's great, but you want to count on

601
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: your front four to get pressure and didn't see a

602
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: ton of it through the first two weeks. We've got

603
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: a lot of it against Wilson and the Giants on

604
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: Sunday Night. Need some more of that here against the Ravens.

605
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: But I feel really good about our defense overall. We

606
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: knew they had the talent coming into this season. I

607
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: think Week one was a bit of a mystery, like

608
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: we know they're better than that. In the last two

609
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: weeks they've been better than that and got to keep

610
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: it going here against the Ravens.

611
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: I also like what I saw from the Chiefs offense

612
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: in the second half. That drive of eleven plays seventy

613
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: four yards. When you look at the balance in that

614
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: six runs before those run first down averaging six yards

615
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: a run. That set up the five passing plays because

616
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: the first run set up the very next play, which

617
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: is off a similar action that fooled the Giants defense,

618
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: which was great. Up front, we saw how good those

619
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: guys were. And then getting into the red zone, the

620
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: play to Taekwon Thornton for the five yard touchdown was

621
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: a play pass. So when you run and get that

622
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: going in that flow, that was good to see. And

623
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: then for Taekwon Thornton. But I think you and I

624
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: are an agreement here when we were texting each other

625
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: during the Monday night football game. You almost have to

626
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: zero on trying to get thirty points in this game.

627
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm not twenty four ain't going to cut it. Field

628
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: goals aren't going to cut it. You need touchdowns and

629
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: it would behoove the Chiefs to try to figure out

630
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: a way to get to thirty points.

631
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: And with that in mind, it was good to see

632
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: Taekwan really kind of step up and be like that guy.

633
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: Last week. We've talked about how this part of the

634
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: season with no Worthy and no Rashi, has been about survival.

635
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get Worthy back this week. I don't know

636
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: for sure, we'll find out as the week goes on.

637
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: That'd be great if we did. But regardless, having Taikwan

638
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: step up like you did against the Giants is a

639
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: big deal because third and three, trying to get the

640
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: ball in the end zone in the red zone, five

641
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: yard touchdown, and he wasn't Mahomes' first read on that play.

642
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: The first the play itself wasn't open, and then Taikwan

643
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: got open in the back of the end zone. Awesome

644
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: throwing catch. And then third and six later on in

645
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: the game, twenty one yard catch where he was not

646
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: the target. Pretty sure Hollywood Brown was the target. Going

647
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: back and looking back at it, Juju Smith Schuster was

648
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: there as well, but Taekwan held on, moved the chains,

649
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: and then a third and ten, after he had just

650
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: barely not caught the ball hit the ground a little

651
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Speaker 2: bit on a big play, they go right back to him.

652
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: He hauls in a thirty three yard catch, sets up

653
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: Kareem's one yard touchdown run essentially put the game away.

654
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: To develop that trust in that relationship with Mahomes, where

655
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Mahomes is like the defender barreling in on him. I'm

656
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: just going to throw it up for Taekwon and I

657
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: know he's going to come down with it. That's a

658
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: big deal. And I think once we get through this

659
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Speaker 2: part of the season where we have Xavier and Rashiback

660
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: later on having Taikwon as another option that Mahomes trusts, ironically,

661
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: we might look back at this time and be like

662
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: that was really beneficial where they had to develop a relationship.

663
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: They had no choice. It wasn't like Taikwan's going to

664
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Speaker 2: get two targets a game and we'll figure it out.

665
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: Like they had to develop it and hopefully in January,

666
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: we're talking about Taekwan making a big play and we

667
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: look back at last week and say, that's kind of

668
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Speaker 2: where that trust was formed.

669
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Speaker 1: Well in the thirty three yarder after he didn't complete

670
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: the catch on the thirty four yarder the previous It's

671
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: like running the four hundred meters in a prelim and

672
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: you've got to run the finals right after the first

673
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: four hundred meters. It was amazing in what he did there.

674
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Speaker 1: The other thing I was encouraged about was seeing the

675
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: jet sweep flip pass in a round action. Okay, because

676
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: you can run that a bunch of different ways. Romihio

677
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: gets a double digit one, but Burchard Smith showing up

678
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: just a little bit enough on the radar where you're

679
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to account for him, and then you get

680
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: hopefully Xavier Worthy this week. But that action, that side

681
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: to side action has been a staple of this offense

682
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: in winning three Super Bowls and slowing down pass rushers

683
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: and actually helping the interior run game. Now, in case

684
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed, we are in the one two two zone,

685
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: but we have company in the one two two zone

686
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: in the AFC West because there are three one in

687
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: two teams in the AFC West looking to go two

688
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: and two like the Chiefs are. But Ari Wolf is

689
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: our guy that keeps a cleedy close on the other

690
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: three division teams and everything around the National Football League.

691
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Speaker 1: Let's check in with Ari.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone to the podcast within the podcast Defending the Kingdom.

693
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: That's the big podcast, And I just come in for

694
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: a little slice. We're calling this out West with Ari Wolf.

695
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: And what an honor I get both Mitfoltis and Matt

696
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: McMullen for our second ever edition of our little segment here.

697
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: And guys, look, it's got to feel really good in

698
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: the Kingdom to get that win last week. It was

699
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: a hard fought game on SNAT we get the win.

700
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Speaker 4: I got a feeling people breathing a little easier in

701
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Speaker 4: the Kingdom.

702
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, we got back at like four o'clock in the

703
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: morning on a Monday morning. Any Yeah, landing in Kansas

704
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: City at four am is a lot better after you

705
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Speaker 2: get your first win of the year, would you agree

706
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: with that?

707
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? The air smells, you know, fresher, and yeah, it's

708
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: everything affects everything. Chlorophylls, Well, there's more chlorophyll in the world.

709
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Look, it had been a while, right,

710
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: the last win was the AFC Championship game, So you

711
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: know for Chiefs Kingdom, that's a long wait. Right, Let's

712
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: get into the AFC West because that's what this segment

713
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: is focused on. So there was a huge game last week.

714
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Speaker 4: You had the Broncos at the Chargers, and I watched

715
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Speaker 4: every single play of it. Now, last week, Matt, I

716
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: think you remember I was really bullish on the depth

717
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 4: of the division. I'm a hair less bullish after watching

718
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: that game. Well, I think the Chargers.

719
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 5: Defense is exceptional, and I.

720
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Speaker 4: Think justin Herbert, they've taken the shackles off, right, they're

721
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: letting him sling it. I mean, he's throwing the ball

722
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: so much more this year than Harball had him throw

723
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: it last year. The injuries are going to take a toll, right,

724
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: Slater done for the year, Khalil Mack. They kind of

725
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: caught a break there, guys, Right, He's only gonna be

726
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: out a few weeks, But then Naji Harris is out

727
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: for the year. So look, you could overcome an injury

728
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: or two, but sometimes those seasons kind of snowball a

729
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: little bit. I'm wondering what your guys' take was on

730
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: that game, because, well, I think the Broncos are solid.

731
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: I just don't think that bow Knicks is an elite quarterback,

732
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: so I think that holds them back a little bit.

733
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Speaker 4: But I think that the division is still there for

734
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: the take for the Chiefs. But what were your guys

735
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: takeaways from that game?

736
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Speaker 2: Well, I wish I could show you my father in law,

737
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: who is a Broncos fan, texts he was sending me

738
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: immediately after that game a little bit in SFW with

739
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: the language that was being used about some of the

740
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Broncos Darrin making I'm late in the game, particularly with

741
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: that fourth down. It's funny because we were already at

742
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: MetLife when that game was going on and I missed

743
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: most of it. But going back and looking at it,

744
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: it does seem like a game that the Chargers normally

745
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: in the past would have found a way to lose,

746
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: and they found a way to win it, which I'll

747
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: give them credit for.

748
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Speaker 1: I think ari this league that was razor thin last year,

749
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: you almost need what the jeweler wears when they're working on,

750
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: like this fine piece of jewelry that looks at things.

751
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: One sixty fourth of an inch. I look at the

752
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Broncos at one and two and think about the way

753
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: they've lost their two games. It is just it's microscopic. Now,

754
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: last year, the Chiefs won twelve straight one position games.

755
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Matt and I joke about it and it was like, well,

756
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: you can't live like that, Like, there's no way you

757
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: can continue that. Well, some teams like we're going to

758
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: get into the Eagles blocking a field goal. That's just gritty, right,

759
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, the point is, whether you think it's luck

760
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: or not, we're down to very thin margins. And I

761
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: think here's the Chargers now but at three and zero,

762
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: and their schedule gets favorable. But the point is it's

763
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: still a very thin margin in the AFC West and

764
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: really throughout the league.

765
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Speaker 5: And I want to get to the Raiders, you know.

766
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: I think Pete Carroll is a guy that you bring

767
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 4: him into any organization, you get instant energy.

768
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Speaker 1: Right.

769
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: That guy is just so fun to be around. At

770
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Speaker 5: his age. I think he's a great role model for everybody.

771
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Right.

772
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Speaker 5: I hope to be kicking butt like Pete Carroll is

773
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Speaker 5: when I'm the same age. But you know, the Geno

774
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: Smith thing. Through three games, it doesn't look good.

775
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: Now, granted it's a small sample size, but I think

776
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: I kind of got excited for Pete after they won

777
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 4: Week one at New England.

778
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, Gino Smith the last couple of

779
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 5: weeks has really struggled.

780
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Speaker 4: So I'm just going to say I'm just not as

781
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: bullish on the overall depth within the division, but you know,

782
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: I do think that, you know, look at the way

783
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: the division is. It's the Chargers right now clearly in front,

784
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: and the schedule does get easier, and I want to

785
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 4: get to the next week's game.

786
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: Let's use that as a segue.

787
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 4: You know, them going to the Giants and they're playing

788
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback in Jackson Dart. I mean, it really

789
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: seems to set up nicely for Justin Herbert and the Bolts.

790
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Speaker 2: What do you guys think, Well, you know, it's funny

791
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: you mentioned that because one thing that Mitch and I

792
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: were joking around with last week was if the Giants

793
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: hadn't exploded against the Cowboys like they did offensively, we

794
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: could have seen Jackson Dart last week and it would

795
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: have been like a very us situation to everyone thinks

796
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: we're going to win, get our first win of the

797
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: year Sunday Night Football and they start Jackson Dart and

798
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: he goes crazy because there's no film on him and

799
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: no one knows what to expect, right, I mean, yeah,

800
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: on paper, the Chargers should beat the Giants, but I

801
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: mean who knows. I mean, I'm kind of excited to

802
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: see what Jackson Dart has. And like I mentioned, there's

803
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: no film on him and no one really knows what

804
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 2: to expect with him. So maybe he'll go crazy against

805
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: the Chargers. I mean, I doubt it with their defense

806
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: being as good as it is, but you never know.

807
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think my league neighbors is going to

808
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: have two catches for thirteen yards as good as that

809
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: Charger defense. Now, and if Cam Scatibow doesn't touch the

810
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: ball twenty five to in this game, there needs to

811
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: be a congressional inquiry. Now, they had lost Tyrone Tracy

812
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: in our game to injury and like that kid. But

813
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: and they've got you know, the other running back, the

814
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: Bills guy. But it's Cam Scatabovin Singletary Singletary, sorry, Devin Singletary,

815
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: but Kam scatabo is a beast as a runner and

816
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: as a catcher. And if they use him more of

817
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: as a centerpiece, and even with Jackson Dart's running ability,

818
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now they give you a lesser

819
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: version of what we'll see this week. When you have

820
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback who can run in a dynamic runner and

821
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: that sets up RPOs and and different run opportunities and

822
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: passing off the run. But Scatabo now is I think

823
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: he's a star in the making, a.

824
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: Star in the making in that market right in New York.

825
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: I just think he's the perfect fit. I mean, given

826
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: they've had a lack of star power, and then he

827
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: get a guy like him who's sort of an extra

828
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: effort guy and overachiever kind of guy. I think, whoever

829
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 4: his agent is, he's going to be getting a lot

830
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: of off the field deals. I think Cam if you're

831
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: a bit on futures, I think he's a good one

832
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: to look at. All Right, let's look at one of

833
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: the Monday night games. You've got the Bengals, No Joe

834
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 4: Burrow are going to the Broncos. It feels a little

835
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: like there's pressure on the Broncos, right, Like, even though

836
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: it's early in the season, now this seems like a

837
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: must win game. But no Joe Burrow, what do your

838
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: guys take on the Monday night match up?

839
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: Well, they have the Eagles right after that, so I

840
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: think for Denver this is a must win. And again

841
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: based on my father in law's texts, I think people

842
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: are getting a little bit nervous in Denver. I mean,

843
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: there's so much offseason hype about the Broncos, about how

844
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: this was their opportunity to really push the Chiefs in

845
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: the division. It kind of feels like the Chargers are

846
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: the one that has kind of taken over that role

847
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: of being a team that's going to challenge us. And

848
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: Denver has all the talent in the world, I think,

849
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: but it's still a very young team. And one thing

850
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: I always think about with teams like this, it's one

851
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: thing to kind of surprise people in the win games,

852
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: it's another one you're expected to win, particularly when you're

853
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: as young as they are. So yeah, I mean it

854
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: is a big game. The Bengals did not look good

855
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: last week against Minnesota. Jake Browning's better than that.

856
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: Though.

857
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: We've seen what Jake brown can do a couple of

858
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: years ago when he almost got them in the playoffs,

859
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: So I expect Cincinnati to be better their defense. I

860
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: still struggled a lot though this year, and we'll see

861
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: what Bonex can do against him.

862
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: Hey, Mitch, I want to get your take specifically on

863
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: Sean Payton. I really questioned why he put it out

864
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: there that he thinks this team is elite and then

865
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: bow Nicks is.

866
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 5: A future superstar.

867
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: Just try to explain to me why he would put

868
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: that extra pressure on his team. I realize you maybe

869
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 4: want to build some hype, but Sean Payton's a veteran coach.

870
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: You would never hear and Andy Reid do something like that.

871
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: I was curious what your take is on Sean Payton

872
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: and how he was really trying to convince everyone before

873
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: a single down was played that the Broncos were for real.

874
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: One of the most compelling stats in NFL history is

875
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: that no coach who has won a Super Bowl with

876
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: a franchise has ever won another one with another one.

877
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: It's never happened. Never happened. So we can go down

878
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: through the line. Even our Hank Stram couldn't get it done.

879
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: But there have been so many coaches have tried and failed.

880
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: But one of the if you do a case study

881
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: on why that hasn't happened is because the coach who

882
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: goes to the next spot tries to make the next

883
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: spot their last spot. And I think that there is

884
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: a strategical error there, meaning I think maybe where coach

885
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Payton got ahead of himself and at least publicly, was

886
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: to thinking, this is Drew Brees, this is the New

887
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: York New Orleans Saints of two thousand and nine, and

888
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: this is what we are. And I think that that's

889
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: a bit premature. There's a ton of talent. That defense

890
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: is for real. They have no weakness on that defense,

891
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: and they've got some underrated dudes along with premier players.

892
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: But the point is, though the Broncos, they're not the Saints.

893
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: And I kind of noticed to hear a little bit

894
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: when we had coach for Meal, because there were two

895
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: years the first two years we're gonna be the Rams

896
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: of ninety nine, and that didn't work. In fact, it

897
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: really impeded the progress and what we needed to make

898
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: in the first two years trying to make us what

899
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: the last stop was. And so I think that's probably

900
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the adjustment that Sean Payton's gonna have to make. It's

901
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: not the Saints, it's the Broncos. And the Broncos are

902
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to win it their own way.

903
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, at least for now, Bonnicks is

904
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 5: not Drew Brees. All right.

905
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: My game of last week, it's hard to compare the

906
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 4: Giants Cowboys game from the week before because that was

907
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: just off the charts madness.

908
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: But I chose the Rams at the Eagles game.

909
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: The Rams did so many things right, I mean, but

910
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: the thing was in the first half they ended up

911
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: settling for a bunch of field goals when they had

912
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: a chance to blow the game wide open, the game

913
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: ends up coming down to the wire. Last week, we

914
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: talked about in the Cowboys game that the state of

915
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: kicking in the NFL has completely changed. Like, I don't

916
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: understand how now is sixty four yarders just no big deal? Well,

917
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: and we were talking about the evolution of mankind. Explain

918
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 4: to me how Jordan Davis at six six, three hundred

919
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 4: and thirty six pounds can run eighteen point five nine

920
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: miles per hour, block the kick and then literally just

921
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: sprint into the end zone. It was one of the

922
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: wildest finishes I've ever seen. I know you guys were

923
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: busy on sending it. What was your take on Jordan

924
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: Davis in the end.

925
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: Of that game.

926
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: This is such like trying to think of the right

927
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: word for this. Hater is a wrong word. But in

928
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: my mind it didn't The clock was at triple zero's

929
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: when he was running it back right, yes, So in

930
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: my mind, shouldn't he just have gone down? I get

931
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: it was exciting and the crowd's going nuts, and he

932
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: returns it for a touchdown and that's your instinct, but

933
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: like what if like the ball got punched out from

934
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: behind him and the Rams ran it all the way back.

935
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: And bb leon Lett back in the day. I mean,

936
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: there's some receiver, some but speedy guys out there lurking

937
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: around Gold to chase him down. But yeah, that's to

938
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: your point.

939
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was a great show of athleticism.

940
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't love the Eagles, and maybe that's why I'm

941
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: thinking this way, But in my mind it was a

942
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: coaching point where that was really cool Jordan Davis. But

943
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: maybe next time, don't return it all the way for

944
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown and allow the Rams to still have a chance.

945
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: But incredible finish And you know what's funny, maybe you

946
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: saw this. So I was at MetLife and all the

947
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: TVs were on different games right next to each other.

948
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: That kick happened at the same time as the Browns

949
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: Packers field goal where the Browns beat the Packers like

950
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: it was like simultaneous. I almost thought we'd see two

951
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: game winning field goals at once, but we got one

952
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: in the Browns, not so much with the With the Rams.

953
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: To me, I'm gonna look at it on a broader

954
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: basis because they're in a span of about feel felt

955
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: like an hour. There were like six block kicks. Now

956
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Matt knows. Now, Matt knows. Sorry, I love block kicks.

957
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: There is no better sound in football than the thud

958
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: of a block punt. It's awesome. Uh. If I came

959
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: back in another life, I would be the thud of

960
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: the kick like it's it's uh. But all of a sudden,

961
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: and there'll be maybe one a month or two a month.

962
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: I may not chart them, and all of a sudden,

963
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: there's like six in an hour, like boom, boom boom.

964
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: The Jets game right, and the Jets, the Jets do it.

965
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: They run back and I go too soon, too soon.

966
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: You guys should have put down at the one. Mayfield

967
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: is going to come back and win this game. But

968
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: the fact that there were all these block kicks that

969
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: happened in a in a quick span, it just it

970
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: tells you. You mentioned the athleticism. Some of these defensive

971
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: front guys are becoming so athletic. And in the Jets game,

972
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: like McDonald, he jumped over the blockers. He didn't. It

973
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: wasn't leverage. I didn't use Matt to jump over to

974
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: block your kick. He just like a high jump and

975
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: block the kick. These guys are getting so athletic that

976
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, you're just surprised every week. But man,

977
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: you have that many block kicks in a short amount

978
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: of time was blowing my mind.

979
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: Well, on that note, it'd be curious. I'm curious whether there's.

980
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: Talk in the facility for the Chiefs if you really

981
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 4: need a block, like I feel like Chris Jones should

982
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 4: be on the field, right, Is that something that you

983
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: think will maybe get a second look because you're seeing

984
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: the guys with his kind of physical stature in there

985
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: being able to kind of blow up and if they

986
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 4: don't get the block the guy near him and maybe

987
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: not doing it on special teams every time. But you know,

988
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: sometimes those late game situations called half your very best

989
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: players on the field. What do you think about potentially

990
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: a guy like Chris Jones starting to play and try

991
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: to get in there to block some kicks.

992
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Or Charles a Mena, who who we had on the

993
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: podcast right before you, because his wingspan is so long.

994
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs and Matt knows this. He and I

995
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time, the Chiefs talking about

996
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: one sixty fourth of an inch, We're one sixty fourth

997
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: of it. How many block kicks you miss fight the Giants? Yeah,

998
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: it's like, how did that even miss? It was Shamari Connor. Yeah,

999
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: and he's like it's like that's right there, and so, uh,

1000
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: we're getting there. We're gonna block some kicks. Maybe this week, yeah,

1001
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: maybe this week. Hopefully.

1002
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: It gets me thinking about when we used to have

1003
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Tano Passino who was like six foot ten or something

1004
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: crazy and he blocked like two extra points over the

1005
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: course of like three weeks. Uh yeah, I mean it's

1006
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: what changes games. And I think looking at the Chiefs

1007
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: Giants game last week, I think I think it was

1008
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: Ashton Gelati blocking that extra point. I get that the

1009
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Giants didn't have the normal kicker, but blocking that extra

1010
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: point was a big deal in the game because the

1011
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: game remained tied, being down seven to six, it was

1012
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: still very early, but still just like morale wise and

1013
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: for the feel of the game, I think blocking that

1014
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 2: extra point was a big deal.

1015
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: So at your point, are missed extra point? It's the

1016
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Chargers in week one. Never we were ready to shift

1017
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: the pressure to the Chargers sideline. Yeah, they exhale, going

1018
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: we're still up one. Yeah, so SAME's do.

1019
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 5: Same, all right?

1020
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: So to me, the game of this week coming up

1021
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: on the schedule, it's no secret it's the Ravens and

1022
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: the Chiefs. I don't know anybody who had them coming

1023
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 4: in at one and two, right, But you know, I

1024
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: think that we are seeing that. You know, the AFC

1025
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: is going to be really competitive. Like you said, it's

1026
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: just this little things are going to decide games. What

1027
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 4: I've seen from Baltimore though, they've got a real problem.

1028
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry now has a fumbling problem. Right, if you

1029
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 4: fumble in three straight games, you've got an issue because

1030
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: now what's in his head? And every single defender on

1031
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: that Kansas City Chiefs team is thinking, hey, we got

1032
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 4: a chance to get the ball out on Derrick Henry.

1033
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: I imagine that they're always working on trying to get

1034
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: the ball right, but it's got to be extra tantalizing

1035
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: when you're going up against the future Hall of Famer

1036
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 4: who suddenly has a fumbling problem.

1037
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: I think it's when they happen too. So the Ravens

1038
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: should have beaten the Bills. I think we all agree

1039
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: on that that they had that game in hand and

1040
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: they found a way to give it to Buffalo. And

1041
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: they were right there with Detroit in that game on

1042
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: Monday where they had an opportunity to go down there

1043
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: and take the lead, but they fumble the ball away late.

1044
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 2: Not all fumbles are created equally, and for a team

1045
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: like Baltimore that is so talented and has aspirations of

1046
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: winning the AFC, to be kind of allowing teams to

1047
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: either get back into the game or giving away an

1048
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: opportunity for you to go take the lead late in

1049
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter is not a great sign. So for them,

1050
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I expect them to come into this game

1051
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: laser focused. For the Chiefs, though late in the game,

1052
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: we've seen Kansas City over seven to eight years be

1053
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: so good in those late game situations. We've got to

1054
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: be good in those situations. Once again here in this game,

1055
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: because with Baltimore, we've seen what happens if you're not.

1056
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm mystified at Baltimore's defense, how do you give up

1057
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: to ninety eight yard drives? And then these weren't tricky runs.

1058
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean the Detroit offensive line, these were base plays.

1059
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: And Montgomery and Gibbs are good, I know, like both

1060
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: those guys, but they're Baltimore's getting blown off the ball,

1061
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: and so it was I just sat there was watching it,

1062
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: like what team am I watching it? Because usually the

1063
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Ravens are just the opposite of that, And so I

1064
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: don't think Henry's going to sow the ball to the

1065
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: ventricles of his heart.

1066
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: Like Friday night lights like that.

1067
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: It was taping, Yeah, it'll be a yeah, great tape

1068
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: around his body. But then Baltimore's defense, the Chiefs now

1069
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: one of the encouraging side. I said, there's more chlorophyll

1070
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: in the earth now because the Chiefs won the game.

1071
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: But the cool thing, the good thing was in the

1072
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: second half you started to see glimpses like the eleven

1073
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: place seventy four yard drive start the second half, six runs,

1074
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: five passes, both both both were working off each other,

1075
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to somehow get to thirty points

1076
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: in this game to be Baltimore. Right, They've got one

1077
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven points in three weeks. So, but that

1078
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and the side to side game, like Burshard Smith in

1079
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: what we have seen the Chiefs offense do with jet

1080
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: sweeps and flip passes and end to rounds. That started

1081
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: to happen in this game for the first time since

1082
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: that AFC Championship game back against the Bills way back when.

1083
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: So that to me gives me some hope that the

1084
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: offense could get into a rhythm a bit and then

1085
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: try to score on these guys and try to get

1086
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: to thirty or more.

1087
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: All right, well, mech is your first time with us

1088
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: for this, we like to you a parting thought, and

1089
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: it's really in honor of how much I've loved watching

1090
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: PTI all these years that they always have like a

1091
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: final thought.

1092
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 5: Just something to think about for me.

1093
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: The play that Patrick Mahomes made late in the second quarter,

1094
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: to me, maybe the play we look back on as

1095
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: the play that changed the season. And he said afterwards

1096
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: he didn't want a lot of credit because it was

1097
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: his mistake. But I've watched that play about a half

1098
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: a dozen times. It's one thing to recognize that you've

1099
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: thrown it backwards. I think some quarterbacks we just hope

1100
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: it was you know, people thought it was an incomplete pass.

1101
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 4: It's not just the recognition. The physicality and the athleticism

1102
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: to go strip a guy of that size at the

1103
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: five yard line was one of the most breathtaking plays

1104
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my entire life. What other quarterback

1105
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: could do that or would have had the presence of mind.

1106
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: You're in a six to six game on the road,

1107
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: you're potentially about to go down thirteen to six, and

1108
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: you're zero and too right that moment, to me, if

1109
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: they don't go on and win their fifth Lombardy and

1110
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: everything's great, we're all celebrating. You guys are getting sized

1111
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: up for rings. You're gonna look back at that play

1112
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: from Patrick Mahomes. It wasn't sexy, but man, it was

1113
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: an incredible play that to me, might have changed the

1114
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: entire complexion of the season.

1115
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 5: That is my final thought, and now let's go to

1116
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: Matt Yeah.

1117
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more with that. I didn't even realize

1118
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: in the moment that he had punched the ball out

1119
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: like he did. I just thought he fell on a

1120
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: loose ball. Then I watched the replay again and I

1121
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: don't know. I couldn't believe it the wherewithal to know

1122
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: that of everything you said that the ball was live.

1123
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: To go out there and to punch it out and

1124
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: to fall on it one of the many reasons Mahomes

1125
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: is what he is. My parting thought. Those listening to

1126
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: the rest of the podcast already know about this, But

1127
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: Mitch and I went to West Point last week before

1128
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: the game, went out there a little bit early. I

1129
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: won't get two into details because I already said all

1130
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: this earlier on the pod, but it was just so

1131
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: much fun to go out there and to share a

1132
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: really cool experience with this guy. Because you know, we

1133
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: work crazy hours and away from our families a lot,

1134
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: and it's a grind right as much as we love football.

1135
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: But to go out there and to have a really cool,

1136
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: once in the lifetime experience and share it what this

1137
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: do was a lot of fun. So that's my parting

1138
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: thought for this week.

1139
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was phenomenal. I hope. I mean, I wish

1140
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: everybody could be on post and see that going back

1141
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: to the Pat play, what's crazy is the exact scenario

1142
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: happened just minutes earlier, the exact play, and you mentioned

1143
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: I called it out on the air. I go, I

1144
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: think that's a lateral you did. You call it then

1145
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: the Giants didn't react, and they did it, but Pat reacted.

1146
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: And because Josh Simmons picks it up and then pass

1147
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: like over and grabbing the ball like he wasn't going

1148
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: to leave it to chance, And that's to your point.

1149
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: And so to have it happen just minutes later, because

1150
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: you don't see that happen like once every three months,

1151
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: and then I have to go make the play on

1152
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Bobby O Garik. It's a really good player. My parting

1153
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: thought is I think it's really cool that you've got

1154
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: a map of the world behind it to educate your

1155
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: children on where places are on the earth. I think

1156
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: that's just awesome and that fires me up. I think

1157
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: I'll go put one up in my living room.

1158
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I told you guys before we

1159
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 4: came on, I got it like literally weeks after my

1160
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: daughter was born. And you'd be amazed how often it

1161
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 4: comes up, right, Like every time there's an international NFL game.

1162
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 5: Anytime somebody I know is.

1163
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: Traveling somewhere, my kids will always be like showing me

1164
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: where on the map where is it?

1165
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 5: They know exactly where Kansas City is.

1166
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: Now, they know where a lot of the different NFL

1167
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 4: cities that we traveled to, and so the map has

1168
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 4: been a good thing.

1169
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this.

1170
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: Before I became a broadcaster, I wanted to be a

1171
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: high school history teacher and a coach. I wanted to

1172
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 4: coach at that level. So I never got to do

1173
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: those things because I aspired to broadcasting. But in this

1174
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: little way with my kids, I get to act like

1175
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 4: a little bit of a teacher.

1176
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 5: But look.

1177
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 4: To the three of us together reminds me of the

1178
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 4: live streams of training camp that I have so much

1179
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 4: fun doing.

1180
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: So I hope you guys enjoyed. This was a ton

1181
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 5: of fun.

1182
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate you. Ari brought us some good luck

1183
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: going into last week. Yeah, well, let's keep it going.

1184
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: Where'skistan? Where's Zekistan? All right? Thanks to Ari Wolf right there?

1185
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: His all so many close games and we're seeing teams.

1186
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: But you talk about the moving goalpost narrative of the Chiefs.

1187
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Remember last year, like twelve straight one possession wins. You're like, man,

1188
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: you can't live like that. But other teams are doing

1189
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: it this year. It's like, well, they're just gritty and

1190
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: gunny and they blocked a field goal. So that's what

1191
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: you do when you win games. What isn't that what

1192
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs did against the Broncos? But oh no, now

1193
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: you can't live off that.

1194
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: I guess this is the tax when you win three

1195
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowls in five years, people just want to discount

1196
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: what you do. You know, I've talked about this before,

1197
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: but hopefully we can get on a run here. I

1198
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: think this is such an awesome opportunity where we can

1199
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: get to like December and if the Chiefs can lock

1200
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 2: up the division and we can look back and be like, man,

1201
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: do you believe this team started zero to two and

1202
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 2: had to fight to get that win in New York.

1203
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: But that's the beauty of this team and the beauty

1204
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: of being.

1205
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: At the top.

1206
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: Right as you're constantly fighting to stay there. It's difficult

1207
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: to sustain success, and no team has been better at

1208
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: it than the Chiefs over the last ten years thirteen

1209
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: years since Coach Reed got here. And that's why really

1210
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 2: throughout this whole thing. Like, obviously you want to see

1211
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: the Chiefs win every single week, but our confidence has

1212
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: never wavered in this team. And I'm excited to see

1213
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 2: what we can do against Baltimore because you go out

1214
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: there against a team that you think will be there

1215
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: with you in the end and the AFC, and this

1216
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: is a chance to show that we're still right there

1217
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: with them.

1218
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, we have something in common. What's that women

1219
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: in our lives who actually probably we've survived because of them.

1220
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like Ellie's. I could hear Ellie's voice in

1221
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: my head when we were at West Point, like did

1222
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: you put sunscreen on it?

1223
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: And my brain I'm like, wait, no, I didn't. I

1224
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: better find some when we're watching you know half that

1225
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: we were watching two regiments of the Brigade on review

1226
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: was cool on Saturday morning. But your mom and my

1227
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: wife both played Division one basketball, Sure did?

1228
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I told you my mom was recruited to

1229
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: West Point and respectively said I don't think that lifestyle

1230
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: is for me.

1231
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: List So you go to Mississippi State and then Tennessee

1232
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: some big time programs. And my wife played at k

1233
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: State and was a four year starter for them, so

1234
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: don't ask us ask them about the one two two

1235
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: zone