1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Reinventing the movie night with virtual reality. What's going on? 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm rich Demiro. This is rich On Tech. A company 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: named Dreamscape wants to reinvent the movie night with the 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: magic of virtual reality. Yes, I know you've heard about 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: virtual reality before, but this is one of the better 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: applications of it, perhaps maybe the best. Dreamscape just opened 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: their first permanent location at Westfield Century City. This is 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: a beautiful outdoor mall that was just remodeled in West 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. But back to Dreamscape Immersive. This is a 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: new company backed by Hollywood studios including twenty first Century Fox, WarnerMedia, Viacom, 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and there's also legendary creators on board like Steven Spielberg 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: and Hans Zimmer. 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: Our backgrounds come from Disney imagineering and motion pictures, and 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: I think that at our heart, it's trying to blend 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: the visceral excitement of a great Disney theme park ride 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: with the emotional satisfaction of a Hollywood movie, all being 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: presented through this extraordinary new technology. 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: That's Walter Parks, one of the co founders and a 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: big time Hollywood producer himself. He's done a lot of stuff, 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: including co writing the movie war games. He also produced 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: the Men in Black series and lots of other Hollywood hits. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: It's both daunting and maybe the most exciting thing I've 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: ever been involved in, because you're right, it's a new form, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: it's a new technology, it's a new business model. It's 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: everything about this is new. Plus it's not just that 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: we're making these things. We're sort of creating the technology 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: and we're creating these these centers. So I guess at 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it all comes down to 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: that wonderful line from a Field of Dreams. If you 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: build it, they will come. I think that we believe 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: that if we create these extraordinary, you know, welcoming, very 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: non tech sorts of environments and create emotionally satisfying and 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: exciting adventures for people to do, they will come. 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: So what is dreamscape? Well, think movie, but you are 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: part of the action. The setup when you walk in 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: is reminiscent of an old timey movie theater. It invokes 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: a sense of mystery and wonder. You purchase tickets for 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: a show from an iPad, or you can do it 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: ahead of time online. Currently there are three an alien 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: themed zoo called Alien Zoo, an underwater adventure and another 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: where you step into the action of an Indiana Jones 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: style movie. So I've done the Alien Zoo and the 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Magic Projector one, which is the Indiana Jones style one, 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: and they are both seriously cool. 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: Technically, I guess you'd say that we are a new 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: VR platform that offers a really extraordinary technology that actually, 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: unlike most VR, renders you as a character inside a 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: CG universe, so you literally enter the movie. It's something 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: you do with your friends. We do it six people 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: at the time. You're in complete touch with all of 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: your senses, without any leg or latency, and it's really 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: an extent of yourself into an imagined world. 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Parks believes this is the future of entertainment, what we 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: would do on a Friday night movie style entertainment. But 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: there's really no spectators. Everyone that attends is actually part 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: of the action. And it's way better than VR in 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: your living room because they've built a special place where 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: you experience this. So the floors rumble, there's wind, they 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: have sense that they pipe into this room, all these 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: different physical effects that add to the immersion and put 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: you inside the experience. But before you do that, you 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: have to put on a bunch of VR equipment, including 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: motion trackers on your hands and feet, a VR headset, 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: plus a backpack to power at all. 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: Unlike other VR experiences where which are much more vrcade, 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: we are evoking the sense of traveling. So this almost 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: feels a bit like a train station. 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: You know. 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: We know people are in a mall, They're gonna have packages. 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: We have places to put things, you know, and feel comfortable. 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: We also went from a standing up model that we 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: used to do to sitting down. In fact that you 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: can take a seat right now if you want. This 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: allows people to be much more comfortable. It also levels 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: out where the backpack is and I think really evokes 76 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: a sense of a premium experience. And again it's sort 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: of cozy, and I think it's giving this people a 78 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: sense of reassurance and a sense of going on the journey. 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Bruce Vaughan is CEO of Dreamscape Immersive. His background is 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Disney Imagineering. See where this is all going. I'm with 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: him in the room where you suit up before your adventure. 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: This is the part where things kind of get real. 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: It's a little bit intimidating. Actually, if you've never done 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: VR before, you start to wonder, am I going to 85 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: get sick? Is this going to be fun? Is this 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: going to be scary? Think of that part of the 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: theme park ride where you wait in line, but here 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: you're getting prepped for real. 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: Putting on the equipment. You could look at it as 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: something that would be disconcerting, maybe a bit of a 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: time consumption thing. Operationally, we've actually embraced it, like going 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: on any adventure, whether it be ziplining or diving, you 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: put on scooby gear, you put on a harness, and 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: there's a bit of a sense of commitment to the 95 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: overall looks experience and a sense of adventure that gets 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 3: heightened by that. So we're not playing it right now, 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: but we have background music in here that was actually 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: created by Hans Zimmer's group, you know, all for this 99 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: kind of experience. We do lighting changes throughout the experience. 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: So we really are looking at this as the final 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: ritual in the physical world before you step into the 102 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: virtual world. 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: And of course, since I'm a germophobe, I had to 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: ask the obvious question about the ickiness factor. After all, 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: lots of random people are wearing the same VR equipment 106 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you are all day long. 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: After every show, or before every show, or however you 108 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: want to look at it, we have a one of 109 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: our cast members comes in and cleans all everything that 110 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: touches you. All of the materials have been chosen to 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: be you know, hyperilergenic, cleanable, all that kind of stuff. 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: We're very serious about that. 113 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Next to you head into that specially outfitted VR room 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: and the best part is when they sort of turn 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: on the experience, when it all starts. Suddenly you see 116 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: an avatar like virtual version of yourself and the other 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: people in your group around you. It's really tough to 118 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: explain this moment, but the first time it ever happened 119 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: to me, it was so seriously cool. Now, the experience 120 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: starts out like a typical movie, but then you're on 121 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: your way picking up tools and physically walking through the adventure. 122 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: At one point you might be touching a creature that 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: you can actually feel, and it might even have a 124 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: wet nose. You're carrying a flashlight perhaps, or walking through 125 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: a maze. Now you're not moving very much. It's all 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: around this small room, but because of VR, it feels 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: very epic. The best way I can describe it is 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: sort of a ride slash adventure taking place in a 129 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: make believe world. The experience inside the room probably lasts 130 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: less than twenty minutes, but the entire experience you could 131 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: probably spend maybe an hour there by the time you 132 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: buy your tickets, wait and get suited up, and then 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: talk about it afterwards. 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: If you have expectations about VR based on what you've done, 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: put them aside, because this is a very different experience 136 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: and come and be, as we say in one of 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: our experiences, can be the hero of your own story. 138 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: This is all about something we've learned as we're learning. 139 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: This is creating experiences in which you're not seeing other 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: characters reveal a story, but it is your own part 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: in the story which is essential, and so far people 142 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: have found it very satisfying. 143 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: The movie chain AMC is an investor in Dreamscape makes Sense. 144 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: The company is working with them to open new locations 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: at malls across America. The next locations are all in malls. 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: They're going to be in Dallas, Paramus, New Jersey, Garden State, Yes, 147 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: my home state, Long Island, and Columbus, Ohio. Tickets for 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: the experience, at least at Century City are twenty dollars 149 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: if you haven't tried VR, this is the one to 150 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: make your first, all right. If you want more information 151 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: on Dreamscape, you can go to my website, rich on 152 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: tech dot Tv. There you can watch the TV segment 153 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I did on it for KTLA, or you can check 154 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: the show notes for a link. Thanks so much for 155 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: listening to the show, and thanks to everyone who has 156 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: purchased my book one hundred and one Handy Tech Tips 157 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: for the iPhone. I would love it if you'd leave 158 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: a review on Amazon. I'm Rich Demiro. I'll talk to 159 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: you real soon.