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Speaker 1: Welcome into a very indie edition of Cowboys Break. Everyone,
Speaker 1: Letsie Draper, Dave Hellman, Kyle Yeoman's right here from Radio Row.
Speaker 1: This is so fun. It's my first combine as well
Speaker 1: as Kyle. But Dave the veteran here this is his seventh. Hello. Wow.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel really when you say gunch is
Speaker 1: a little bit yeah, you're walking around me. I will like,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to sound like old guy
Speaker 1: McGee shout out Mickey. Uh sorry, I'm sorry, Mickey. There
Speaker 1: wasn't a Radio Row the first time I came here,
Speaker 1: and like you talk to like old reporters who covered
Speaker 1: this thing in the eighties, and it was like five reporters,
Speaker 1: and then it was like a couple dozen reporters. And
Speaker 1: now like, I mean, every team, every team in the
Speaker 1: league has a radio station set up broadcasting what's going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the biggest offseason event of the
Speaker 1: year other than the draft itself. So it's it has
Speaker 1: become a monster and it's it's super fun to be here. Well,
Speaker 1: here's what we got coming up for you today in
Speaker 1: the break. I know you're one wanting to know what
Speaker 1: we've been seeing, what these guys are going to be
Speaker 1: talking about coming up this week on the Draft Show.
Speaker 1: We'll give you a little taste. Draft Show will be
Speaker 1: tomorrow at eleven am Central. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: was Stephen shared with us yesterday, as well as taking
Speaker 1: your Twitter questions that we asked for earlier. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that. So why don't we start with what you
Speaker 1: guys have been seeing. Obviously a ton of buzz around
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and for the Cowboys, not media, just just
Speaker 1: tu just he's talking about that, talking about the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is. And it's crazy that see like that narrative
Speaker 1: kind of become at the forefront. I mean it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: two was gonna go as a top five quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go here and there, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, I love the Cowboys though, and
Speaker 1: then he talked about the Cowboys again, okay, but well
Speaker 1: there's a difference there. He was asked about the cow
Speaker 1: You were the one that I was. I wasn't the
Speaker 1: only one, But I mean, okay, is it super interesting
Speaker 1: that one of the best quarterbacks in the draft is
Speaker 1: a lifelong Cowboys fan and named his dogs Dallas and Star.
Speaker 1: Of course it is. But guess what, it's the most
Speaker 1: popular football team in the world. You know how many
Speaker 1: guys in every draft class probably grew up to Cowboy
Speaker 1: fans pretty good amount, Dak Prescott being one of them.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it works out and you get drafted by your
Speaker 1: childhood favorite team. Sometimes it doesn't. So I mean it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't buy the narrative that it means Tonguavilo is
Speaker 1: going to wind up on the Cowboys, but it's fun
Speaker 1: to talk about it. And even with just a narrative
Speaker 1: overall of him liking the Cowboys and growing up as
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. Whenever you get drafted by a team,
Speaker 1: what's a former Cowboys fan going to do? Whenever he
Speaker 1: goes to the other team. He wants to put a
Speaker 1: target on the Cowboys back. Absolutely, he wants to beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because he grew up a fan of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So even with the narrative that is there
Speaker 1: with two in the entire I guess media row kind
Speaker 1: of talking about the fact that he's, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: he's a big Cowboys fan. If he gets drafted by
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and number five overall, he's gonna put
Speaker 1: on the Miami Dolphins element and he's gonna want to
Speaker 1: beat everybody else in the NFL. There are no lukewarm
Speaker 1: reactions to the Dallas Cowboys a great point. You love
Speaker 1: them or you hate them, You want to play for them,
Speaker 1: or you want to beat them desperately, and it just
Speaker 1: applies to everybody. So before we get into our conversation
Speaker 1: with Steven Jones yesterday, Dave, we're walking in this morning,
Speaker 1: we run into a new running back coach, Skip Pete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cowboys coaches are rolling in here. McCarthy is supposed to
Speaker 1: be here today. He might already be here early afternoon,
Speaker 1: but things have changed, the schedule has changed. They're all
Speaker 1: kind of feeling it out and and wanting to see
Speaker 1: their guys asap. Yeah, we actually just I mean, you
Speaker 1: talk about the changes, and that's you know, we kind
Speaker 1: of previewed it on the Draft show last year. This
Speaker 1: is this is the first time the combine been this
Speaker 1: different in a long time. The drills are going in
Speaker 1: primetime now the NFL is trying to turn this into
Speaker 1: a muscy TV event, and it's funny to see, like, obviously,
Speaker 1: like we're scrambling, we've got to be adaptable. We don't
Speaker 1: know who's talking and when, but neither do these guys.
Speaker 1: That was Skip Pete was like when can I get
Speaker 1: my hands on these running backs? Like when am I
Speaker 1: going to be part of these meetings? Like they got
Speaker 1: drills at night, they got interviews with the league in
Speaker 1: the morning, Like when or when do I find some time?
Speaker 1: And you know, talking to personnel guys around the league,
Speaker 1: you talk to the scouts. This thing is a headache
Speaker 1: for these guys because again, this used to be an
Speaker 1: information gathering session and it has turned into orma finding
Speaker 1: Well it's it's it's must muscy TV for football dorcs
Speaker 1: at least, And so that's that is the adjustment that
Speaker 1: everybody's having to make right now. It's funny to see,
Speaker 1: you know, gms and scouts and coaches are just as
Speaker 1: clueless as the rest of us about how all this
Speaker 1: is going to work because it's the first time they're
Speaker 1: doing all well, and you even talk about the changes
Speaker 1: of the combine, But what about the coaching staff. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the first offseason that this coaching staff has
Speaker 1: had meshing together kind of trying to find those roles. Now.
Speaker 1: I know they're professionals, but at the same time, you
Speaker 1: kind of got to get into a rhythm of being
Speaker 1: a staff, being a part of this franchise together and
Speaker 1: doing that while also going through changes of the combine
Speaker 1: and the scheduling and just trying to find personnel. It's
Speaker 1: like you talked about us being adaptable when we talk
Speaker 1: about the draft overall, we kind of it's still a
Speaker 1: guessing game in terms of what this coaching staff is
Speaker 1: going to see as their biggest priorities. Now. I know
Speaker 1: in the off season you're going to look at the
Speaker 1: dat contract in Amari and Byron, But in terms of
Speaker 1: the draft, are they gonna go defensive tackle? Is secondary
Speaker 1: where they want to attack it or would they rather
Speaker 1: attack that in free agency. It's trying to figure out
Speaker 1: those those the an ounce of the off season as
Speaker 1: a coaching staff, but also having to deal simultaneously with
Speaker 1: the changes that the combine has ad period. It's interesting
Speaker 1: to think, can you mentioned all these things are talking about?
Speaker 1: Steven touched on him yesterday. Yeah, so let's dive in.
Speaker 1: Let's go down the list. Stephen Jones talked to us
Speaker 1: probably twenty minutes yesterday. Where do you want to start
Speaker 1: in between CBA talk? I want you to kind of
Speaker 1: decode Dave, because I know it's confusing. We've got dates,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get contracts done before, but the CBA
Speaker 1: is kind of hanging around waiting to see what the
Speaker 1: players end up voting on. So can you decode that
Speaker 1: for us before we begin? So I'm the NFL owners
Speaker 1: enfranchises are aware of these things before they reach our ears,
Speaker 1: so I doubt that they were as caught off guard
Speaker 1: as the rest of us. But it is a hell
Speaker 1: of a wrinkle for the Dallas Cowboys that a new
Speaker 1: CBA is being considered right now because it throws everything
Speaker 1: in limbo. And that was kind of the tenor of
Speaker 1: what I took away from Steven Jones yesterday is there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways this offseason can go based
Speaker 1: on how that's gets decided. So if you need a primer,
Speaker 1: the CBA is entering the final year of its deal.
Speaker 1: If you remember ten years ago to the lockout, they
Speaker 1: signed a ten year deal. We've been going strong for
Speaker 1: ten years. It's time for a new one. They are
Speaker 1: trying to get a jump on this and put a
Speaker 1: new one in place before it expires in the spring
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. For my money, I didn't think
Speaker 1: that would get decided until next year, and it still
Speaker 1: might not. Nothing has been approved, but the NFL owners
Speaker 1: agreed on a proposed CBA. You've probably read about it.
Speaker 1: Adding an extra week to the regular season, taking away
Speaker 1: preseason game, changing drug testing rules, expanding the postseason, all
Speaker 1: of these crazy and massively different changes, and that needs
Speaker 1: to be decided the NFL, the nflpa's player reps are
Speaker 1: weighing it right now. They're considering whether they approve it.
Speaker 1: If the players approve it, then you've got an all
Speaker 1: new CBA which changes everything heading into the new league year.
Speaker 1: And all of that is within the next three weeks.
Speaker 1: And all of that is on top of the fact
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are trying to negotiate a contract extension
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, with Amari Cooper, probably not, but maybe
Speaker 1: with Byron Jones on top of all of the other
Speaker 1: business they've got to take care of. And Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: said it at the top of yesterday's interview. He was like,
Speaker 1: we need to wait and see how that pans out
Speaker 1: before we know how to go forward. And that's why,
Speaker 1: you know, sitting here second day that we've been in Indie,
Speaker 1: there's not much in the way of updates in terms
Speaker 1: of where things stands with DAK, where it stands with AMAR,
Speaker 1: because they need to see what type of league landscape
Speaker 1: they're working in before they do any of that time,
Speaker 1: he seemed very like handcuffed almost and he was willing
Speaker 1: to talk and share, but he was very limited on
Speaker 1: what he knew is going to happen in a few days.
Speaker 1: And what was it, seventy nine million dollars. You're working
Speaker 1: with the cap and we're going to be in trouble.
Speaker 1: I mean, he said that we are going to be
Speaker 1: in trouble. So, yeah, it's hard to quantify. It's hard
Speaker 1: to quantify just how much it could change, Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean one example of that being, you know, it's the
Speaker 1: rumored talk of if you're in the final year of
Speaker 1: the CBA, you can use a franchise tag and a
Speaker 1: transition tag at the same time. If a new CBA
Speaker 1: is agreed to, it's at least theoretically possible you take
Speaker 1: one of those tags away all of a sudden, that's
Speaker 1: a tag you can't use on them. On Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: or Byron Jones for that matter, you change the revenue
Speaker 1: sharing plan, you change how it affects the cap. The
Speaker 1: numbers could change based on what's agreed to. And for
Speaker 1: my like, I get stressed out just talking about it.
Speaker 1: And I actually I talked to Stephen Jones after our
Speaker 1: interview yesterday. I was like, Stephen, does this kind of
Speaker 1: freak you out at all? That? Like, you basically have
Speaker 1: to have two, three, four different plans of attack based
Speaker 1: on what's going to happen here in the next three weeks,
Speaker 1: and all you can really do is wait and see
Speaker 1: what happens. And he was like, no, this is just
Speaker 1: this is the world we live in. This business is normal. Yea.
Speaker 1: Even at the same time, whenever you guys were talking yesterday,
Speaker 1: it was he said, franchise tags. We're not going to
Speaker 1: speculate here. We're not speculating one or way or the
Speaker 1: year we got how many we got five or six.
Speaker 1: Not going to speculate a ton of that. Lots of
Speaker 1: that at the same time, even if you wanted to
Speaker 1: speculate which direction are you going to? And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean, I'm stressing out over the
Speaker 1: fact of having to deal with all of this, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even the one that has to make these decisions.
Speaker 1: None of us are. It's the select group of people
Speaker 1: that have been put into that spot and they feel
Speaker 1: like they have a good grasp on it. But from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, it looks like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a mess. It's sure is stressful to me. Man.
Speaker 1: So we're here in Indy. This kind of marks the
Speaker 1: beginning of this time of year. So Thursday, February twenty seventh,
Speaker 1: that marks the first day that you can designate a
Speaker 1: player with the franchise tag. Two days that's two days away,
Speaker 1: and then you've got two weeks until the deadline. So
Speaker 1: you hear Stephen Jones. Probably the biggest snippet that came
Speaker 1: out of that is that he reiterated our goal is
Speaker 1: to sign Dak Prescott before we have to put the
Speaker 1: tag on him. Even to heck, I thought we'd do
Speaker 1: it last year. Yeah, yeah, which, and I mean that's
Speaker 1: we can get into that if you want to. Which
Speaker 1: is that two sides haven't talked since September, have not discussed,
Speaker 1: have not made a lot of progress. But Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: is saying we want to have him signed in seventeen days.
Speaker 1: That is a lot of work to do if you're
Speaker 1: going to avoid all that you're hearing. And after seeing
Speaker 1: what happened with Ezekiel Elliott and to market, I even
Speaker 1: put it past him, stranger things have happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me, It really would. It surprised me.
Speaker 1: It almost feels like we need to gear ourselves up
Speaker 1: for it popping up in the next seventeen days. Well,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that franchise tag is used as a placeholder,
Speaker 1: and that placeholder is to get a long term deal done.
Speaker 1: The only problem with using the franchise tag as a
Speaker 1: flip placeholder is that there's four other deals that you
Speaker 1: want to try and get worked out, whether it's be
Speaker 1: with your returning players or with guys in free agency.
Speaker 1: And that's that right there is the problem. Because I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about me being an old head.
Speaker 1: I come here all the time in twenty fifteen, it
Speaker 1: was Dez Bryant and it was we want to get
Speaker 1: a deal done. If we can't, we'll tag him and
Speaker 1: that gives us until July to figure something out. Not
Speaker 1: very stressful in the grand scheme of things. But now
Speaker 1: you're talking about if we have to tag Deck, does
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper hit the open market? Do we have another
Speaker 1: tag to use depending on the CBA? What about Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: There's there's so many moving parts to this Cowboys offseason,
Speaker 1: and they're really important. By the way, a Pro Bowl quarterback,
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl receiver, and by the way, an All
Speaker 1: Pro cornerback that like nobody wants to talk about just
Speaker 1: shoving Byron Jones offer me on air that we really
Speaker 1: did get the vibe yesterday that Byron Jones might there
Speaker 1: just might not be room. The writing has been on
Speaker 1: the wall, and Stephen Jones echoed yesterday he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's like, we want to I think his quote was
Speaker 1: something along the lines if we want to visit with
Speaker 1: his people and see where they stand, and he had
Speaker 1: a great run was something he said. It's that's rough
Speaker 1: to hear. It does not seem likely that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: think that they can fit Byron Jones into their financial plans.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting to get the Cowboys fans takes on
Speaker 1: that because I hear so many just opposite perspectives, like
Speaker 1: he should be the number one priority, and then another
Speaker 1: you know, he gets intercept, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the great cover corner doesn't get picks. It's all like, literally,
Speaker 1: all three of these guys, you would say they've been
Speaker 1: drastically important to what success the Cowboys have had over
Speaker 1: the last two years. They also have enough flaws in
Speaker 1: their game that you can't find a consensus, like there
Speaker 1: are people that don't want Dak, there are people that
Speaker 1: don't want to Mary, and there are people that don't
Speaker 1: want Byron, and yet all three of them would break
Speaker 1: the absolute bank if they hit the open market. Now,
Speaker 1: it is a weird spot to be even with all
Speaker 1: of that being said, though, like the priority with keeping
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and then having a wide receiver that's
Speaker 1: a by far number one wide out in your offense,
Speaker 1: those two things are gonna still be priority number one
Speaker 1: and two over keeping a cover corner. And I think
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys Nation in the fans out there, kind
Speaker 1: of got a little thrown off guard. Whenever we heard
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan and the car watch that happened with the
Speaker 1: assistant coaches when he was saying, well, I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: of a guy that's going to the corner. I think
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman said something about it as well. He said
Speaker 1: he talked to Troy. He Mike Nolan said, you know,
Speaker 1: Troy Aigman said, I'm not afraid of the guy that
Speaker 1: bats down balls exactly, I'm afraid of the guy that
Speaker 1: takes the ball the other way and almost instantly wipe
Speaker 1: the memory of Cowboys fans. You have a lockdown corner
Speaker 1: who's been a great cover corner and all pro on
Speaker 1: your team, the kind of corner that you're going to
Speaker 1: spend the next five years trying to find, whether it
Speaker 1: be in the draft or in free agency. When you're
Speaker 1: letting him walk, they did. They Stephen right after that
Speaker 1: funneled in and said, but hey, we're focusing on defense
Speaker 1: for the draft. I'm just going to come out and
Speaker 1: say that right now, we're locked up on offense, we
Speaker 1: have good contracts that we like, We're gonna go young
Speaker 1: for me own defense. It's man, it's interesting because I
Speaker 1: hear what you just said. Yeah, it's so easy to
Speaker 1: make the case that it's easier to find a wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the draft and like replace that production rather
Speaker 1: than give him Maury Cooper eighteen twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: It's also easy to make the case that your Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl wide receiver makes a far bigger impact a week
Speaker 1: in and week out then a cornerback, especially a cornerback
Speaker 1: who doesn't take the ball away. I think, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can make a case for either one of them. I
Speaker 1: just know the odds that the Cowboys sign all three
Speaker 1: are very, very smallow, and the writing seems to be
Speaker 1: on the wall about which they think is more important. Well,
Speaker 1: and even looking at the draft and looking at defense overall,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have had zero success in finding defense in
Speaker 1: free agency, at least over the last five years. Since
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I wrote this down Quinn was a trade though,
Speaker 1: trade trade, but I mean, you look at three defensive
Speaker 1: tackles and that's a notable position of interest for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this offseason. Three defensive tackles have been signed since
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Christian Covington, Stephen Pio, and Cedric Thorton. Those
Speaker 1: are the three defensive tackles in free agency that have
Speaker 1: been signed by the Dallas Cowboys, I think I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a stretch to say, and I mean, for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, they acquired a veteran defensive end
Speaker 1: who got them eleven sacks. Yeah, during the offseason, you
Speaker 1: can't cheap. You can't discount Robert Quinn. But okay, Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn Randall Cobb last year arguably the only really quality
Speaker 1: free agent, veteran type additions that this team has made
Speaker 1: in the last five years. I think people that don't
Speaker 1: want to see Byron Jones leave. I get why that
Speaker 1: scares him, because if he's gone, Anthony Brown is also
Speaker 1: a free agent. Now you're looking and saying, well, we
Speaker 1: have Cheeto and Jordan Lewis, both of whom are entering
Speaker 1: contract years of their own, neither one of whom really
Speaker 1: inspires your confidence that, like, this is a lockdown Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl guy. You know, maybe Jay Lou could turn into
Speaker 1: that guy with some more playing time, but we haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. And you sit here and say, well, what
Speaker 1: are we gonna do about our secondary if these guys
Speaker 1: are all gone? Like, I totally get why it's terrifying
Speaker 1: for people that like the idea of keeping Byron Jones
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Speaker 1: to the Break, Welcome back to the Break here on
Speaker 1: Radio Row in Indianapolis, and I've got Dave Hellman and
Speaker 1: Kyle Yelman's with me, who are going to keep you
Speaker 1: posted on everything for the draft this upcoming week. First,
Speaker 1: before we get into the twitter questions, I love what
Speaker 1: you guys have sent in. What are you both most
Speaker 1: excited to watch quote unquote watch for the rest of
Speaker 1: the week. You'll be here till Saturday Sunday. What's the
Speaker 1: best part, Dave, No, Kyle, you need more time to
Speaker 1: think about. Man. I'm excited really to kind of get
Speaker 1: to talk to some of these guys, and we've we've
Speaker 1: already started that. Today the quarterbacks and the wide receivers
Speaker 1: and the tight ends came in and did their media
Speaker 1: session and I got to kind of at least talk
Speaker 1: with some of the guys. One of the favorite individuals
Speaker 1: that I met with was James Prochet, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: out of smu Ye Dallas guy, just a great guy overall,
Speaker 1: and it seems like there's still that that stigma of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys being a favorite of some kJ Hill wide
Speaker 1: receiver out of Ohio State from Arkansas. Apparently he's a
Speaker 1: big Cowboys fan, grew up a Cowboys fan because Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones was an Arkansas guy as well. So it's fun
Speaker 1: just getting to know the background stories and some of
Speaker 1: the different intricacies of these prospects because they're literally running
Speaker 1: around with a number in a position and that's it.
Speaker 1: I know the names are attached to it as well
Speaker 1: for the most part, but this is a process that
Speaker 1: can get really impersonable for a while. But this is
Speaker 1: a good way to get personable with some of these games.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing some profiles on some of these guys
Speaker 1: for the Blitz, our offseason show coming up, so leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, tune in for those and get
Speaker 1: to know these guys better that could possibly be Cowboys
Speaker 1: now the old head just going to lean into that
Speaker 1: head helmet. I think it's just, you know, this is
Speaker 1: a good opportunity for guys to go a little bit
Speaker 1: more mainstream. There's so many there's so many good players here.
Speaker 1: You know. On the Draft show, we do our best
Speaker 1: to spread it around, but you tend to get fixated
Speaker 1: on us on a small number of players. Cats, well
Speaker 1: not the thing. Not only do you have pet cats,
Speaker 1: but you know there's no way around it. We in
Speaker 1: the media are behind everybody else. Yeah, I mean inside
Speaker 1: the you know, we're behind the league in terms of
Speaker 1: who we need to be looking at. And so somebody
Speaker 1: this week is going to pop up on our radar.
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe. Now. Speaking of Byron Jones, people
Speaker 1: knew who Byron Jones was going into the combine, but
Speaker 1: he made point, made himself a household name boy absolutely
Speaker 1: destroying the combine and that you know, you gotta be
Speaker 1: careful obviously, because it's it's the underwear Olympics. And not
Speaker 1: every guy who can jump higher or run fast as
Speaker 1: a good football player, but some of them are. Yea
Speaker 1: Byron Jones is an all Pro. Took him a couple
Speaker 1: of years to get there, but he's a damn good player,
Speaker 1: and he jumped into the national consciousness literally by having
Speaker 1: a great combine. So somebody's going to do that this
Speaker 1: week's sweetheart. And there's a good bet it'll be a
Speaker 1: defensive player, yes, because offensive players steal ahead. Like we
Speaker 1: know who a lot of the offensive guys are, I
Speaker 1: mean quarterbacks, steal the headlines. You know, the wide receivers,
Speaker 1: you know Henry Rods, the touchdowns and and they're the
Speaker 1: ones that run the four two forties. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the rugs Is and Raigers of the world. People know
Speaker 1: those names. But there's gonna be some defenders and that.
Speaker 1: And again, Lindsay, you said it in the first part
Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, the Cowboys are going to consider
Speaker 1: everybody and do their due due diligence, but they need defenders. Yep.
Speaker 1: They need cornerback safeties and defensive tackles. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: learn a little bit more about those guys this week.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm I don't want to throw
Speaker 1: any names out there, but somebody's going to pop up
Speaker 1: that that we haven't been talking. We'll throw plenty of
Speaker 1: names out there. We will do it name dropping, left, right,
Speaker 1: and loaded. Let's get ready for the Twitter questions. We
Speaker 1: asked you guys to send them in. So Mac is
Speaker 1: first up, guys, and he wants to know we just
Speaker 1: said they're going to be drafting defenders. But I've gotten
Speaker 1: this question a lot via email as well. Is there
Speaker 1: a possibility of drafting a quarter back and letting him
Speaker 1: groom under Prescott for one year. We know the Mike
Speaker 1: White experiment failed and a lot of people are not
Speaker 1: set on Cooper Rush being the backup. Yeah. Okay, but
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and I'm stealing this line from our
Speaker 1: good friend Dane Brugler, who we worked with for so long.
Speaker 1: The Mike White experiment didn't fail. Like it didn't work out. No,
Speaker 1: it didn't. It's a Day three pick, it's like and
Speaker 1: it's I mean, okay, it did not work out. But
Speaker 1: to say it failed implies that he's like this first
Speaker 1: round pick like it's a lot in a bus. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a lottery ticket you put like it's like
Speaker 1: you spend a dollar fifty on a scratch off and
Speaker 1: win fifty. I think they should. Honestly, I think they will.
Speaker 1: I think by the time the draft is over, I
Speaker 1: think a quarterback will be taken by the cow I
Speaker 1: think that. I mean, they need to figure out their
Speaker 1: backup situation, whether it's Cooper Rush or a veteran from
Speaker 1: somewhere else. They got to figure that. I'm not drafting
Speaker 1: a quarterback to be my backup, but I'm absolutely interested
Speaker 1: in using a Day three pick to bring in a
Speaker 1: developmental guy. Yeah, Mike White was a fifth round pick, fifth, sixth,
Speaker 1: seventh round. Bring him on. There's a there's a name
Speaker 1: that's been thrown around throughout the draft show process, but
Speaker 1: I like Anthony Gordon for that role. State. Yeah, quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's kind of twitchy, He's got a little bit of
Speaker 1: footwork issue, but I think if the right coaches get
Speaker 1: a hold of him, he's got a powerful arm. He's
Speaker 1: got a cannon with a bullet of passes that you
Speaker 1: can use throughout the course. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: not the scout term all for it all bullet passes,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I really think that this is a
Speaker 1: guy with a strong arm and with the poise in
Speaker 1: the pocket. He had a nine touchdown game this year
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. Well, I mean he played for
Speaker 1: Mike Leach at Washing exact day. Those guys put up
Speaker 1: the coaching stupidest numbers in the World's great, but it's
Speaker 1: great to think about. But he's a project, that's what
Speaker 1: he is. He's not going to come in and be
Speaker 1: a starter. Even content for a starting job. Don't need him.
Speaker 1: That's where that's where I think a guy like he
Speaker 1: could thrive in a Cowboys system. We're looking. It's it's
Speaker 1: a lottery ticket and you buy low and hopefully he
Speaker 1: sell high or cash in one one or the other.
Speaker 1: It's a possibility, maybe a Day three pick. Devon wants
Speaker 1: to know, referencing Steven Jones answering questions about special teams yesterday, saying, okay,
Speaker 1: So if Chris Jones is injured, do the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: any plans to replace him this year and try and
Speaker 1: get better in that way? I haven't heard anything about
Speaker 1: that as of yet. Now, I mean it's it's still early.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, Chris Jones isn't. You know, the guys
Speaker 1: with the huge amounts of money are the ones that
Speaker 1: people always circle for restructuring or releasing that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that about Chris Jones. And you're not
Speaker 1: Let's be real, You're not going to draft a punter anyway,
Speaker 1: so you know, I Cowboys might not draft a punter.
Speaker 1: I think a punter will be taken. No, why rhetorical,
Speaker 1: you like the Cowboys are not. I would get shocked
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys draft a punter, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: M Brandon Man out of Texas A and M's pretty
Speaker 1: He's amazing. And Dixon, the Texas punter who wound up
Speaker 1: in Seattle, he's fantastic. Not to say you can't draft one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys will, which in that case,
Speaker 1: I would like to think they could bring in a
Speaker 1: punter to compete, but I don't anticipate Chris Jones going
Speaker 1: anywhere in the near future. I think there are enough
Speaker 1: veteran punters out there that you don't have to address
Speaker 1: that need when it comes to draft time. And and
Speaker 1: like you said, I agree, I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: use one of their six picks at the moment. I
Speaker 1: know they might get a comp pick for maybe a
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley in there somewhere, but I don't see one
Speaker 1: of those six or seven picks going to getting a
Speaker 1: guy like a Brandon Man or a punter later in
Speaker 1: the draft. I think they would rather address backups and
Speaker 1: build depth more so than special teams. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I do I get I get the question though, I
Speaker 1: mean we kind of gloss over the fact that punting
Speaker 1: has not been great for this team for a couple
Speaker 1: of seasons well, and special teams is going to continue
Speaker 1: being a question. I mean, a new coach with John Fossil,
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have to have a new punt returner.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Tavon Austin's going to be back
Speaker 1: in that spot again because he had multiple blunders throughout
Speaker 1: the course. Very very quietly, there is not much in
Speaker 1: the way of certainty about special teams on this team.
Speaker 1: We're bath coming back? Is it er coming back? There's
Speaker 1: so many with some of these key roles a special teams,
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways you can go. I just
Speaker 1: don't think the draft is one of those. No, agreed.
Speaker 1: This is the question I've been looking forward to from
Speaker 1: our good friend Bobby belt Nice. Now this question is
Speaker 1: directed at Dave, but Kyle, I want you to just
Speaker 1: kind of chime in if you think of something as well.
Speaker 1: And the question is if Hellman had to compare his
Speaker 1: Marty Graw experience to a prospect in this year's draft,
Speaker 1: which prospect would it be? And why I appreciate you
Speaker 1: rewarding Bobby the troll on our airspace. He deserves it.
Speaker 1: Bobby talking about my personal vacation time quick Mardy grow
Speaker 1: experience for Dave this weekend made it here on two
Speaker 1: hours sleep. My Marty gar time my Mardi Grow experience
Speaker 1: would be Henry Ruggs, the Alabama receiver. He might set
Speaker 1: the NFL record for fastest forty and he is a
Speaker 1: joy to watch play, which is to say, my Marty
Speaker 1: Grow experience was very fast and very fun. I was
Speaker 1: there for forty eight hours. My memory is fuzzy, but
Speaker 1: I got to see a lot of friends. I drank
Speaker 1: a few beverages, I watched a few parades, and then
Speaker 1: I caught a flight to Indianapolis and I'm here doing
Speaker 1: my job in ree Rugs. Okay, I've got one for you,
Speaker 1: and it's a different Alabama wide receiver. Okay, it's Jerry Judy.
Speaker 1: And you know why why. He is twenty years old
Speaker 1: at the moment. He turns twenty one on April twenty four.
Speaker 1: On April twenty fourth, that is a great nugget because
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hell of a Draft weekend is
Speaker 1: the first round of the draft, yeah, which is in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. So Jerry Judy will be in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee it because the night he gets
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, he's going to turn twenty one.
Speaker 1: That's why I would compare Marty graw to Jerry Judy, which,
Speaker 1: thank you, You're welcome. I like I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: Um man. I know the Cowboys need defense, but I
Speaker 1: would just be ecstatic to watch either of those guys
Speaker 1: play for this. It's not gonna happen. I'm oh, stop,
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that stop the first segment on Wednesday. What
Speaker 1: if it's happening? What if what if Jerry Judy falls
Speaker 1: to seventeen and you don't love any of the other options.
Speaker 1: I know he's not going to happening. That leads me
Speaker 1: to question, who do you think could potentially slide in
Speaker 1: the draft? Another question from Twitter, see any potentials surprises?
Speaker 1: What what were you guys reading on Twitter earlier that
Speaker 1: somebody said about Chase Young? Yeah, somebody on Twitter was
Speaker 1: talking about that's not just I don't I don't even
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to dignify that it wasn't
Speaker 1: right like a top five pick. I don't change. I mean, honest, like,
Speaker 1: the biggest variable, the biggest variable in this whole draft
Speaker 1: right now is I mean, it's over, it's over talked about,
Speaker 1: but it's probably too a tongue of aloo, because if
Speaker 1: he's completely healthy and you feel confident about his ability.
Speaker 1: You could argue he's worth the number one pick in
Speaker 1: the draft if you feel good about his health, which
Speaker 1: that's the big debate. And if you don't, he could
Speaker 1: you could see him slide. You could see him slide
Speaker 1: to the middle of the first You could. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen, but you could conceivably see
Speaker 1: him slide out of the first round if teams are
Speaker 1: just out. I mean, you know, we talk about this
Speaker 1: and we'll get into it on the Draft show. It's
Speaker 1: like you get your medical evaluations here in Indy. According
Speaker 1: to tah everything looks good, but they do another thing
Speaker 1: called the medical recheck, where guys with medical concerns get rechecked.
Speaker 1: See how that you know it's right. It's right there
Speaker 1: in the name name. Yeah, you get rechecked. And that's
Speaker 1: where you know red flags start to pop up, like oh,
Speaker 1: x so and so team is out on on this
Speaker 1: player because they just don't feel good about his knee.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have done it before. The one that broke
Speaker 1: my heart a few years ago was Jay Agii, the
Speaker 1: Boise State running back. The Cowboys didn't feel good about
Speaker 1: his knee. A lot of teams didn't and it dings
Speaker 1: you in your draft boards. So Toa's health is going
Speaker 1: to mean everything, because if he's healthy, he's a top
Speaker 1: five pick. If he's not, who knows where he yes.
Speaker 1: I think seeing a quarterback slide is gonna be a
Speaker 1: little bit tougher this year, especially because there are so
Speaker 1: many teams that need quarterbacks. I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: more teams even get in the mix by trading up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be teams that aren't in the
Speaker 1: top fifteen that are gonna go up and try and
Speaker 1: get a guy like two or Justin Herbert or Jordan
Speaker 1: Love that are all up in that top tier quarterback category.
Speaker 1: But I would see maybe a defensive guy like Javon Kinlaw.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we've talked about kin Law NonStop
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the Draft show, because he's a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. He's a three technique that just bullies people
Speaker 1: in the middle of an offensive line. He can have
Speaker 1: a little bit of pass rush there too. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of great things about kin Law and his knee
Speaker 1: tend Ninus kind of flares up every now and again.
Speaker 1: It did it in the middle of the season, didn't
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl week says he's good to go this week
Speaker 1: and through the medical checks this week said that, hey,
Speaker 1: everything is fine. That's good and dandy. But if the
Speaker 1: rechecks come back and there's something a little bit wrong
Speaker 1: with that, knatsin de ninus and the rehab doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: go as right as you expect, or you turn around
Speaker 1: and maybe he hurts himself at a pro day in
Speaker 1: a workout whenever he's doing his on field stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think a guy like that might slide a little
Speaker 1: bit more so than maybe a quarterback would. But even then,
Speaker 1: I think kin Law's kind of talent that could still
Speaker 1: go top fifteen even with a little bit of the
Speaker 1: injury issues. Next question from Reuben. Will McClay has always
Speaker 1: been more of a big school guy in drafting. Do
Speaker 1: you think this will change slightly with McCarthy's input or
Speaker 1: how is that whole dynamic going to work. I have
Speaker 1: to see it to believe it, And I mean, Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy and his staff are going to have their own
Speaker 1: ideas and values and opinions about the way this goes.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think and Will McClay and Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones have both kind of said this over the last
Speaker 1: month or so, is like they're not overhauling the way
Speaker 1: they do this. Yeah, they're you know, they're they're tweaking,
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, maybe it sounds like Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Mike Nolan want a bigger mold of defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: That's obviously doable. Rod Marinelli really liked smaller, faster defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to bulk up. But again, you're not
Speaker 1: overhauling this thing. And I think until I see otherwise,
Speaker 1: I think it's a foundational piece of what they want
Speaker 1: to do. That they're looking for guys that have played
Speaker 1: under the bright lights, that have done it on a
Speaker 1: big stage, that are not wowed by the idea of
Speaker 1: being a Dallas Cowboy, especially with your early picks. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, and I hate to throw his name
Speaker 1: out there. He's a great player, But Kyle Dugger, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about him a lot. Nor Rhyne, which I
Speaker 1: had never heard of until I found out about Kyle Dugger.
Speaker 1: I just would have to see it to believe it,
Speaker 1: because I you know, you look at where did the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get their players from? Notre Dame Ohio State, Boise State,
Speaker 1: which is it's a smaller program but still on the
Speaker 1: upper echelon, and it's one of the best mid major
Speaker 1: programs in college bridial top five exactly, Mississippi State, the SEC.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what they favor, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a smart strategy. Honestly, Yeah, I would just have to
Speaker 1: see him go away from it before or I believed it.
Speaker 1: Just to play a little bit of Devil's advocate here,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I disagree with you, because I
Speaker 1: agree in the fact that I think i'd have to
Speaker 1: see it to believe it. I think they'd have to
Speaker 1: take maybe one or two of those small school guys
Speaker 1: for me to maybe see a shift in the thought process.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of small school guys in this
Speaker 1: draft that are gonna make an impact. Adam Troutman out
Speaker 1: of Dayton, You've got you already mentioned, Kyle Dugger out
Speaker 1: of Lenoor Ryan, guys like Ben Bartch from Saint John's
Speaker 1: one of the top off offensive linemen that we've talked
Speaker 1: about in the draft. I know we don't talk a
Speaker 1: ton of offensive lineman, but then you got like Tyler
Speaker 1: Bass out of Georgia, Southern. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of solid players that are gonna be in Day two,
Speaker 1: maybe early day three of this draft that are in
Speaker 1: positions of need for the Cowboys, and I think that
Speaker 1: might kind of leto it. And like you said that
Speaker 1: the earlier draft picks, if you're not gonna see Georgia
Speaker 1: Southern player taking at seventeen, that's not gonna happen. You're
Speaker 1: gonna see a South Carolina or a Clemson er on
Speaker 1: Alabama something big time, with somebody that's approven against a
Speaker 1: tough schedule and has proven themselves. But in terms of
Speaker 1: the later draft picks and guys who maybe didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have that schedule and that strength of schedule. On the
Speaker 1: other side, I think you could see some guys go
Speaker 1: and you oh you will, ye oh yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You absolutely will. I just don't think it'll be by
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Well I'm saying like it could be
Speaker 1: by the Dallas cow I have to see it to
Speaker 1: believe it, and that and I'm not necessarily saying I'm
Speaker 1: right because obviously somebody from a small school is going
Speaker 1: to be great. It happened, really good happens all the time.
Speaker 1: But I will. I'm going to go back to that
Speaker 1: well of SEC Big ten ACC every time, and I'll
Speaker 1: hit way more often than I don't whereas like which
Speaker 1: and I just like it's just an easier pool. It's
Speaker 1: it's an easier pool to fish from, and I'll miss
Speaker 1: on some like some small school guys that I don't
Speaker 1: draft will be great. Yeah, but I'm still I'm not
Speaker 1: even interested in taking the risk, honestly, as you like,
Speaker 1: give me the guy that's played against the best more
Speaker 1: often than not, Jason wants to know, considering the lack
Speaker 1: of rookie production in twenty nineteen. Of course there wasn't
Speaker 1: a first trump pick and the roster turnover. Just throw
Speaker 1: that like, wait, no, but they didn't have a first
Speaker 1: round pick. But no. He references Hill, Tristan Hill, and
Speaker 1: McGovern disappointing draft, very disappointing drafts so far. So far?
Speaker 1: Will they be going all in on contribute now type
Speaker 1: of players, Jason is asking, I was just refreshing everybody
Speaker 1: that Tristan Yeah, anyways, Um, I mean I say this
Speaker 1: all the time. In your first three rounds, first, second,
Speaker 1: third round, they better be ready to contribute. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: last year I don't want to call it unlucky. I
Speaker 1: mean they made the trade for a MARII, they did
Speaker 1: that consciously, and they insisted on drafting Tristan Hill, So
Speaker 1: like I'm not calling that luck, but I think there's
Speaker 1: every reason to believe that that they can get that
Speaker 1: because more often than not they do. You know, U eighteen,
Speaker 1: you get Layton vander Ash, a starting linebacker, Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: a starting guard, Michael Gallup who looks like a really
Speaker 1: big find. Twenty seventeen, obviously Taco Charlon's a disappointment, but
Speaker 1: even in that draft you get two starting caliber players,
Speaker 1: actually three if you count Xavier Woods, he's a date three.
Speaker 1: And then you know twenty sixteen. That's a once in
Speaker 1: a generation type of draft. But more often than not,
Speaker 1: I trust them to find contributors in those early rounds
Speaker 1: because they've done it way more often than they haven't.
Speaker 1: I would agree completely. I think this has to be
Speaker 1: a draft where you have to hit on a couple
Speaker 1: of guys which you want to keep that winning window open.
Speaker 1: I don't think the pressure has ever been greater on
Speaker 1: Will McClay and his staff because again, they're they're going
Speaker 1: to give out so much money. Whether you know dak Amari,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it all plays out. But the way
Speaker 1: you afford big name contracts like that is by hitting
Speaker 1: on your draft picks. You have to have guys bawling
Speaker 1: out on cheap contracts to be successful when you're paying
Speaker 1: that kind of money. So first, second, and third round
Speaker 1: they better be contributors, he could preferably, they better be
Speaker 1: like starting caliber contract. And it's got to be in
Speaker 1: positions of need as well. I mean, unless you wanted
Speaker 1: to go the what we've coined as the forty Burger
Speaker 1: route in the Draft Show and draft a wide receiver early.
Speaker 1: Other than that, it needs to be secondary, defensive line,
Speaker 1: tight end potentially, depending on what you think of that position.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different needs here, and with the
Speaker 1: window seemingly closing on the era of the or at
Speaker 1: least the not era, but at least the modern Cowboys
Speaker 1: potentially trying to win another Super Bowl with some of
Speaker 1: these young talents on cheap contracts, with all of the
Speaker 1: money that's man shelled out. With that closing, you've got
Speaker 1: to hit on a couple of if they get the
Speaker 1: same contributions from their first three picks as they did
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, it's not gonna be good. They will
Speaker 1: be talking about how twenty twenty was a disappointing season.
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's so scary to have hope for
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill this season. Um, I have a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna go as far as to
Speaker 1: say I have hope, but I'm just not ready to
Speaker 1: close the book. That's not fair to him. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not fair to him to just again, I mean,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones was a disappointment two years into his career,
Speaker 1: actually three, He did not really hit his stride as
Speaker 1: a great player, which you need it to be faster
Speaker 1: than that. Like, they can't afford to wait two more
Speaker 1: years for Tristan Hill to be good. But it's still
Speaker 1: it's not fair to call his career a bust after
Speaker 1: one season. But a top way he was picked fifty eight.
Speaker 1: A top sixty player should play regularly and be a
Speaker 1: healthy scrap, not be a healthy scrap. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: even you know, Michael Gallup was nowhere near as good
Speaker 1: his rookie year as he was in year two. He
Speaker 1: still started and caught forty balls and was part contribute.
Speaker 1: He was part of a reason of their success. He
Speaker 1: wasn't struggling to make a ross right, which was kind
Speaker 1: of the issue, and he was taking twenty spots after
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. It's it's there's no there's no way to
Speaker 1: defend it. But it's too early to say that that's
Speaker 1: going to be his entire career. And with a different
Speaker 1: coaching staff too. It throws a new wrinkle into this
Speaker 1: to where it's either going to sink or swim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it is going to be for
Speaker 1: and maybe this year or next year. You obviously you
Speaker 1: lose a great defensive line coaching Rod Marinelli. But Jim
Speaker 1: tom Sula has been your boy boy. I want to
Speaker 1: get a beer with Jim tom Sula. I doubt. I
Speaker 1: doubt he listens to the break. But Jim, let's go,
Speaker 1: We're an indie, Come bind me find a way. I
Speaker 1: feel like if you told him to listen to it,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, sure, where do I get it? Seriously
Speaker 1: that's on Twitter and be like the what. But he
Speaker 1: has coached a lot of great defensive lineman. He has
Speaker 1: been around the NFL, so he can help Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: maximize his talent um it's too early to call his
Speaker 1: career a bust, but I mean there's no way around
Speaker 1: the disappointment of that rookie. See quickly referenced Layton vanderash
Speaker 1: a moment ago. And are you worried after hearing from
Speaker 1: Steven yesterday saying you know, things are okay, but I mean,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take it slow coming up these
Speaker 1: next few months. I'm not worried because of what Steven said.
Speaker 1: So if you didn't if you didn't listen or read it,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones say, you know, everything sounds good. We continue
Speaker 1: to get positive feedback after his surgery. That said, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a plan for him. We're not just
Speaker 1: going to throw him in there. We probably won't completely
Speaker 1: let him loose until training camp. Um. So I'm not
Speaker 1: worried by those comments. I'm just worried because netball are terrible.
Speaker 1: Thing like neck and back are the two injuries you
Speaker 1: do not want to hear about it well, and especially
Speaker 1: with a linebacker playing downhill, the physical ta position in
Speaker 1: the game exactly, you don't want to hear about neck injuries.
Speaker 1: And I think he goes all the way back. My
Speaker 1: worry for Laton Vanderich goes back to the press conference
Speaker 1: that Jason Garrett had after the injury was app we
Speaker 1: don't think it's career threatening, career threatening, and everybody was like,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, Like, now that you've brought that up,
Speaker 1: now I think it might be. So it really stems
Speaker 1: from that. I don't think it will hinder his career now.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna miss some time for it, but
Speaker 1: I would rather them take the route that Stephen talked
Speaker 1: about and take it extremely slow and not risk potentially
Speaker 1: rooting his career, ending his career prematurely. Let's take it slow,
Speaker 1: invest in what was a first round pick, and at
Speaker 1: least make sure that he's good to go from the
Speaker 1: remainder of his career, which it kind of goes. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tie this back to the top of
Speaker 1: the show. Watch me do this, do it, Dave. There's
Speaker 1: so many there's so many elements with with this CBA
Speaker 1: and with these contracts. Yeah, Jerry Jones uses this phrase
Speaker 1: all the time. You have to have a tolerance for ambiguity,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, there's there's two camps of people.
Speaker 1: There are people that are like Layton's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: He'll be a pro bowler again in twenty twenty. And
Speaker 1: there's people that are like, his next hurt, he'll never
Speaker 1: walk again. We have to draft a linebacker. And it's
Speaker 1: like you can find some common ground in there and say,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely concerned about his long term health, but we
Speaker 1: just drafted him, and I'm just gonna give their medical
Speaker 1: process the benefit of the doubt and say, these guys
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, not saying he's one hundred percent fine,
Speaker 1: but you just kind of have to wait and see
Speaker 1: and say, we'll carry this thing through. And you know,
Speaker 1: if we're still having this conversation about his health next year,
Speaker 1: it's a completely different conversation. But now I'm willing to
Speaker 1: believe that he can regain his health and his all
Speaker 1: pro form and we don't have to worry about this.
Speaker 1: And it's it seems like people are always in a
Speaker 1: rush to declare this is a five alarm fire, we
Speaker 1: have to do something, or this is nothing. Shut up,
Speaker 1: and it can be in the middle somewhere. Just don't
Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction, right, which to a guy's career. Yeah, potentially,
Speaker 1: but that goes against the nature of this very business.
Speaker 1: That's for sure. That guys, we are out of my
Speaker 1: guy already give me a couple of nuggets that we're
Speaker 1: gonna just hear from you guys all throughout the week.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna be talking about. We just gave
Speaker 1: you all our nuggets We've got. We had draft shows
Speaker 1: all the rest of the week. Shoot, Mike McCarthy hasn't
Speaker 1: even talked. He'll be doing that later this week. Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You're getting like a real spa with Mike McCarthy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The dang drills don't even start until Thursday, so like
Speaker 1: we're just ramping up so we'll have drill results. We'll
Speaker 1: have Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones is going to talk. And
Speaker 1: where does Jerry talk? That's a big TBD, my friend. Wow,
Speaker 1: you won't be here though, but usually it's at the
Speaker 1: end of the week around the bus. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go on Jerry's bus and have a chat. It's it's fine,
Speaker 1: wait for that. It's gonna be good. Which but I'm
Speaker 1: not lying. I don't know when that's It's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they don't tell us. We'll just stay ready. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're always ready. It's like you get a self destruct
Speaker 1: message in the mail that's like this is where like
Speaker 1: be here at two o'clock on Friday. You're going to
Speaker 1: be the Raiders and the Chargers and the Texans and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be sitting at your radio road table and
Speaker 1: then all of the Cowboys staff is just gonna book
Speaker 1: it out of the re Oh. Yeah, And that's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I mean, that's what it's gonna look like.
Speaker 1: It's gonna look like there was a fire drill and
Speaker 1: the only ones that knew about it were the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys media. That's what's gonna be. Can't wait, Kyle Dave Lenz,
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