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Speaker 1: Ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into a very indie edition of Cowboys Break. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: Letsie Draper, Dave Hellman, Kyle Yeoman's right here from Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: This is so fun. It's my first combine as well

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Speaker 1: as Kyle. But Dave the veteran here this is his seventh. Hello. Wow.

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Speaker 1: It makes me feel really when you say gunch is

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to sound like old guy

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Speaker 1: McGee shout out Mickey. Uh sorry, I'm sorry, Mickey. There

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Speaker 1: wasn't a Radio Row the first time I came here,

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Speaker 1: here's what we got coming up for you today in

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at eleven am Central. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: was Stephen shared with us yesterday, as well as taking

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Speaker 1: your Twitter questions that we asked for earlier. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that. So why don't we start with what you

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Speaker 1: guys have been seeing. Obviously a ton of buzz around

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Speaker 1: then he talked about the Cowboys again, okay, but well

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Speaker 1: there's a difference there. He was asked about the cow

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Speaker 1: You were the one that I was. I wasn't the

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Speaker 1: Of course it is. But guess what, it's the most

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Speaker 1: I don't buy the narrative that it means Tonguavilo is

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Speaker 1: but you know there's no way around it. We in

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Speaker 1: the media are behind everybody else. Yeah, I mean inside

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Speaker 1: the you know, we're behind the league in terms of

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Speaker 1: who we need to be looking at. And so somebody

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Speaker 1: this week is going to pop up on our radar.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe. Now. Speaking of Byron Jones, people

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Speaker 1: knew who Byron Jones was going into the combine, but

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Speaker 1: he made point, made himself a household name boy absolutely

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Speaker 1: destroying the combine and that you know, you gotta be

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Speaker 1: careful obviously, because it's it's the underwear Olympics. And not

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Speaker 1: every guy who can jump higher or run fast as

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Speaker 1: a good football player, but some of them are. Yea

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones is an all Pro. Took him a couple

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Speaker 1: of years to get there, but he's a damn good player,

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Speaker 1: and he jumped into the national consciousness literally by having

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Speaker 1: a great combine. So somebody's going to do that this

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Speaker 1: week's sweetheart. And there's a good bet it'll be a

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Speaker 1: defensive player, yes, because offensive players steal ahead. Like we

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Speaker 1: know who a lot of the offensive guys are, I

447
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Speaker 1: mean quarterbacks, steal the headlines. You know, the wide receivers,

448
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Speaker 1: you know Henry Rods, the touchdowns and and they're the

449
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Speaker 1: ones that run the four two forties. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: the rugs Is and Raigers of the world. People know

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Speaker 1: those names. But there's gonna be some defenders and that.

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Speaker 1: And again, Lindsay, you said it in the first part

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Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, the Cowboys are going to consider

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Speaker 1: everybody and do their due due diligence, but they need defenders. Yep.

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Speaker 1: They need cornerback safeties and defensive tackles. And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: learn a little bit more about those guys this week.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm I don't want to throw

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Speaker 1: any names out there, but somebody's going to pop up

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Speaker 1: that that we haven't been talking. We'll throw plenty of

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Speaker 1: names out there. We will do it name dropping, left, right,

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Speaker 1: and loaded. Let's get ready for the Twitter questions. We

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Speaker 1: asked you guys to send them in. So Mac is

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Speaker 1: first up, guys, and he wants to know we just

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Speaker 1: said they're going to be drafting defenders. But I've gotten

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Speaker 1: this question a lot via email as well. Is there

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Speaker 1: a possibility of drafting a quarter back and letting him

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Speaker 1: groom under Prescott for one year. We know the Mike

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Speaker 1: White experiment failed and a lot of people are not

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Speaker 1: set on Cooper Rush being the backup. Yeah. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, and I'm stealing this line from our

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Speaker 1: good friend Dane Brugler, who we worked with for so long.

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Speaker 1: The Mike White experiment didn't fail. Like it didn't work out. No,

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Speaker 1: it didn't. It's a Day three pick, it's like and

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, okay, it did not work out. But

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Speaker 1: to say it failed implies that he's like this first

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Speaker 1: round pick like it's a lot in a bus. It's

477
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Speaker 1: a it's a lottery ticket you put like it's like

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Speaker 1: you spend a dollar fifty on a scratch off and

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Speaker 1: win fifty. I think they should. Honestly, I think they will.

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Speaker 1: I think by the time the draft is over, I

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Speaker 1: think a quarterback will be taken by the cow I

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Speaker 1: think that. I mean, they need to figure out their

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Speaker 1: backup situation, whether it's Cooper Rush or a veteran from

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. They got to figure that. I'm not drafting

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Speaker 1: a quarterback to be my backup, but I'm absolutely interested

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Speaker 1: in using a Day three pick to bring in a

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Speaker 1: developmental guy. Yeah, Mike White was a fifth round pick, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: seventh round. Bring him on. There's a there's a name

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Speaker 1: that's been thrown around throughout the draft show process, but

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Speaker 1: I like Anthony Gordon for that role. State. Yeah, quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of twitchy, He's got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: footwork issue, but I think if the right coaches get

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Speaker 1: a hold of him, he's got a powerful arm. He's

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Speaker 1: got a cannon with a bullet of passes that you

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Speaker 1: can use throughout the course. And I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: not the scout term all for it all bullet passes,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, I really think that this is a

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Speaker 1: guy with a strong arm and with the poise in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. He had a nine touchdown game this year

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Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. Well, I mean he played for

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Speaker 1: Mike Leach at Washing exact day. Those guys put up

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Speaker 1: the coaching stupidest numbers in the World's great, but it's

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Speaker 1: great to think about. But he's a project, that's what

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Speaker 1: he is. He's not going to come in and be

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Speaker 1: a starter. Even content for a starting job. Don't need him.

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Speaker 1: That's where that's where I think a guy like he

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Speaker 1: could thrive in a Cowboys system. We're looking. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a lottery ticket and you buy low and hopefully he

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Speaker 1: sell high or cash in one one or the other.

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Speaker 1: It's a possibility, maybe a Day three pick. Devon wants

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Speaker 1: to know, referencing Steven Jones answering questions about special teams yesterday, saying, okay,

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Speaker 1: So if Chris Jones is injured, do the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: any plans to replace him this year and try and

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Speaker 1: get better in that way? I haven't heard anything about

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Speaker 1: that as of yet. Now, I mean it's it's still early.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, Chris Jones isn't. You know, the guys

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Speaker 1: with the huge amounts of money are the ones that

518
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Speaker 1: people always circle for restructuring or releasing that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that about Chris Jones. And you're not

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Speaker 1: Let's be real, You're not going to draft a punter anyway,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I Cowboys might not draft a punter.

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Speaker 1: I think a punter will be taken. No, why rhetorical,

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Speaker 1: you like the Cowboys are not. I would get shocked

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Speaker 1: if the Cowboys draft a punter, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: M Brandon Man out of Texas A and M's pretty

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Speaker 1: He's amazing. And Dixon, the Texas punter who wound up

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, he's fantastic. Not to say you can't draft one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys will, which in that case,

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Speaker 1: I would like to think they could bring in a

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Speaker 1: punter to compete, but I don't anticipate Chris Jones going

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Speaker 1: anywhere in the near future. I think there are enough

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Speaker 1: veteran punters out there that you don't have to address

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Speaker 1: that need when it comes to draft time. And and

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Speaker 1: like you said, I agree, I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: use one of their six picks at the moment. I

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Speaker 1: know they might get a comp pick for maybe a

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley in there somewhere, but I don't see one

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Speaker 1: of those six or seven picks going to getting a

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Speaker 1: guy like a Brandon Man or a punter later in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I think they would rather address backups and

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Speaker 1: build depth more so than special teams. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do I get I get the question though, I

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Speaker 1: mean we kind of gloss over the fact that punting

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Speaker 1: has not been great for this team for a couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons well, and special teams is going to continue

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Speaker 1: being a question. I mean, a new coach with John Fossil,

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Speaker 1: You're probably gonna have to have a new punt returner.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Tavon Austin's going to be back

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Speaker 1: in that spot again because he had multiple blunders throughout

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Speaker 1: the course. Very very quietly, there is not much in

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Speaker 1: the way of certainty about special teams on this team.

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Speaker 1: We're bath coming back? Is it er coming back? There's

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Speaker 1: so many with some of these key roles a special teams,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways you can go. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think the draft is one of those. No, agreed.

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Speaker 1: This is the question I've been looking forward to from

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Speaker 1: our good friend Bobby belt Nice. Now this question is

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Speaker 1: directed at Dave, but Kyle, I want you to just

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Speaker 1: kind of chime in if you think of something as well.

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Speaker 1: And the question is if Hellman had to compare his

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Speaker 1: Marty Graw experience to a prospect in this year's draft,

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Speaker 1: which prospect would it be? And why I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: rewarding Bobby the troll on our airspace. He deserves it.

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Speaker 1: Bobby talking about my personal vacation time quick Mardy grow

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Speaker 1: experience for Dave this weekend made it here on two

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Speaker 1: hours sleep. My Marty gar time my Mardi Grow experience

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Speaker 1: would be Henry Ruggs, the Alabama receiver. He might set

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Speaker 1: the NFL record for fastest forty and he is a

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Speaker 1: joy to watch play, which is to say, my Marty

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Speaker 1: Grow experience was very fast and very fun. I was

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Speaker 1: there for forty eight hours. My memory is fuzzy, but

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Speaker 1: I got to see a lot of friends. I drank

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Speaker 1: a few beverages, I watched a few parades, and then

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Speaker 1: I caught a flight to Indianapolis and I'm here doing

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Speaker 1: my job in ree Rugs. Okay, I've got one for you,

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Speaker 1: and it's a different Alabama wide receiver. Okay, it's Jerry Judy.

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Speaker 1: And you know why why. He is twenty years old

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Speaker 1: at the moment. He turns twenty one on April twenty four.

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Speaker 1: On April twenty fourth, that is a great nugget because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hell of a Draft weekend is

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Speaker 1: the first round of the draft, yeah, which is in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. So Jerry Judy will be in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee it because the night he gets

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Speaker 1: drafted in the first round, he's going to turn twenty one.

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Speaker 1: That's why I would compare Marty graw to Jerry Judy, which,

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Speaker 1: thank you, You're welcome. I like I like that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Um man. I know the Cowboys need defense, but I

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Speaker 1: would just be ecstatic to watch either of those guys

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Speaker 1: play for this. It's not gonna happen. I'm oh, stop,

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced that stop the first segment on Wednesday. What

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Speaker 1: if it's happening? What if what if Jerry Judy falls

592
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Speaker 1: to seventeen and you don't love any of the other options.

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Speaker 1: I know he's not going to happening. That leads me

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Speaker 1: to question, who do you think could potentially slide in

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Speaker 1: the draft? Another question from Twitter, see any potentials surprises?

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Speaker 1: What what were you guys reading on Twitter earlier that

597
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: somebody said about Chase Young? Yeah, somebody on Twitter was

598
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Speaker 1: talking about that's not just I don't I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to dignify that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: right like a top five pick. I don't change. I mean, honest, like,

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Speaker 1: the biggest variable, the biggest variable in this whole draft

602
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Speaker 1: right now is I mean, it's over, it's over talked about,

603
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Speaker 1: but it's probably too a tongue of aloo, because if

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Speaker 1: he's completely healthy and you feel confident about his ability.

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Speaker 1: You could argue he's worth the number one pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft if you feel good about his health, which

607
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Speaker 1: that's the big debate. And if you don't, he could

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Speaker 1: you could see him slide. You could see him slide

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Speaker 1: to the middle of the first You could. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen, but you could conceivably see

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Speaker 1: him slide out of the first round if teams are

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Speaker 1: just out. I mean, you know, we talk about this

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into it on the Draft show. It's

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Speaker 1: like you get your medical evaluations here in Indy. According

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Speaker 1: to tah everything looks good, but they do another thing

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Speaker 1: called the medical recheck, where guys with medical concerns get rechecked.

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Speaker 1: See how that you know it's right. It's right there

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Speaker 1: in the name name. Yeah, you get rechecked. And that's

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Speaker 1: where you know red flags start to pop up, like oh,

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Speaker 1: x so and so team is out on on this

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Speaker 1: player because they just don't feel good about his knee.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys have done it before. The one that broke

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Speaker 1: my heart a few years ago was Jay Agii, the

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Speaker 1: Boise State running back. The Cowboys didn't feel good about

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Speaker 1: his knee. A lot of teams didn't and it dings

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Speaker 1: you in your draft boards. So Toa's health is going

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Speaker 1: to mean everything, because if he's healthy, he's a top

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Speaker 1: five pick. If he's not, who knows where he yes.

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Speaker 1: I think seeing a quarterback slide is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: little bit tougher this year, especially because there are so

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Speaker 1: many teams that need quarterbacks. I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: more teams even get in the mix by trading up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be teams that aren't in the

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Speaker 1: top fifteen that are gonna go up and try and

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Speaker 1: get a guy like two or Justin Herbert or Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love that are all up in that top tier quarterback category.

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Speaker 1: But I would see maybe a defensive guy like Javon Kinlaw.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we've talked about kin Law NonStop

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the Draft show, because he's a

640
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle. He's a three technique that just bullies people

641
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of an offensive line. He can have

642
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of pass rush there too. There's a

643
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: lot of great things about kin Law and his knee

644
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: tend Ninus kind of flares up every now and again.

645
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: It did it in the middle of the season, didn't

646
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl week says he's good to go this week

647
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: and through the medical checks this week said that, hey,

648
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: everything is fine. That's good and dandy. But if the

649
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: rechecks come back and there's something a little bit wrong

650
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: with that, knatsin de ninus and the rehab doesn't necessarily

651
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: go as right as you expect, or you turn around

652
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: and maybe he hurts himself at a pro day in

653
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: a workout whenever he's doing his on field stuff. So

654
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I think a guy like that might slide a little

655
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: bit more so than maybe a quarterback would. But even then,

656
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I think kin Law's kind of talent that could still

657
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: go top fifteen even with a little bit of the

658
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: injury issues. Next question from Reuben. Will McClay has always

659
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: been more of a big school guy in drafting. Do

660
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: you think this will change slightly with McCarthy's input or

661
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: how is that whole dynamic going to work. I have

662
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: to see it to believe it, And I mean, Mike

663
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: McCarthy and his staff are going to have their own

664
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: ideas and values and opinions about the way this goes.

665
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: But you know, I think and Will McClay and Stephen

666
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Jones have both kind of said this over the last

667
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: month or so, is like they're not overhauling the way

668
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: they do this. Yeah, they're you know, they're they're tweaking,

669
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, maybe it sounds like Mike

670
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Mike Nolan want a bigger mold of defensive lineman.

671
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: That's obviously doable. Rod Marinelli really liked smaller, faster defensive lineman.

672
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to bulk up. But again, you're not

673
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: overhauling this thing. And I think until I see otherwise,

674
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a foundational piece of what they want

675
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: to do. That they're looking for guys that have played

676
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: under the bright lights, that have done it on a

677
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: big stage, that are not wowed by the idea of

678
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: being a Dallas Cowboy, especially with your early picks. And

679
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: that's you know, and I hate to throw his name

680
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: out there. He's a great player, But Kyle Dugger, I mean,

681
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about him a lot. Nor Rhyne, which I

682
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: had never heard of until I found out about Kyle Dugger.

683
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: I just would have to see it to believe it,

684
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: because I you know, you look at where did the

685
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys get their players from? Notre Dame Ohio State, Boise State,

686
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: which is it's a smaller program but still on the

687
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: upper echelon, and it's one of the best mid major

688
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: programs in college bridial top five exactly, Mississippi State, the SEC.

689
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, that's what they favor, and I think it's

690
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: a smart strategy. Honestly, Yeah, I would just have to

691
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: see him go away from it before or I believed it.

692
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: Just to play a little bit of Devil's advocate here,

693
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I disagree with you, because I

694
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: agree in the fact that I think i'd have to

695
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: see it to believe it. I think they'd have to

696
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: take maybe one or two of those small school guys

697
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: for me to maybe see a shift in the thought process.

698
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of small school guys in this

699
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: draft that are gonna make an impact. Adam Troutman out

700
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: of Dayton, You've got you already mentioned, Kyle Dugger out

701
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: of Lenoor Ryan, guys like Ben Bartch from Saint John's

702
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: one of the top off offensive linemen that we've talked

703
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: about in the draft. I know we don't talk a

704
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: ton of offensive lineman, but then you got like Tyler

705
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Bass out of Georgia, Southern. I mean, there's a lot

706
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: of solid players that are gonna be in Day two,

707
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: maybe early day three of this draft that are in

708
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: positions of need for the Cowboys, and I think that

709
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: might kind of leto it. And like you said that

710
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: the earlier draft picks, if you're not gonna see Georgia

711
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Southern player taking at seventeen, that's not gonna happen. You're

712
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna see a South Carolina or a Clemson er on

713
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: Alabama something big time, with somebody that's approven against a

714
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: tough schedule and has proven themselves. But in terms of

715
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: the later draft picks and guys who maybe didn't necessarily

716
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: have that schedule and that strength of schedule. On the

717
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: other side, I think you could see some guys go

718
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: and you oh you will, ye oh yeah, I'm not.

719
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: You absolutely will. I just don't think it'll be by

720
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Well I'm saying like it could be

721
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: by the Dallas cow I have to see it to

722
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: believe it, and that and I'm not necessarily saying I'm

723
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: right because obviously somebody from a small school is going

724
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: to be great. It happened, really good happens all the time.

725
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: But I will. I'm going to go back to that

726
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: well of SEC Big ten ACC every time, and I'll

727
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: hit way more often than I don't whereas like which

728
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: and I just like it's just an easier pool. It's

729
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: it's an easier pool to fish from, and I'll miss

730
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: on some like some small school guys that I don't

731
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: draft will be great. Yeah, but I'm still I'm not

732
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: even interested in taking the risk, honestly, as you like,

733
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: give me the guy that's played against the best more

734
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: often than not, Jason wants to know, considering the lack

735
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: of rookie production in twenty nineteen. Of course there wasn't

736
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: a first trump pick and the roster turnover. Just throw

737
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: that like, wait, no, but they didn't have a first

738
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: round pick. But no. He references Hill, Tristan Hill, and

739
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: McGovern disappointing draft, very disappointing drafts so far. So far?

740
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: Will they be going all in on contribute now type

741
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: of players, Jason is asking, I was just refreshing everybody

742
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: that Tristan Yeah, anyways, Um, I mean I say this

743
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: all the time. In your first three rounds, first, second,

744
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: third round, they better be ready to contribute. Yeah, And

745
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: last year I don't want to call it unlucky. I

746
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: mean they made the trade for a MARII, they did

747
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: that consciously, and they insisted on drafting Tristan Hill, So

748
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: like I'm not calling that luck, but I think there's

749
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: every reason to believe that that they can get that

750
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: because more often than not they do. You know, U eighteen,

751
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: you get Layton vander Ash, a starting linebacker, Connor Williams,

752
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: a starting guard, Michael Gallup who looks like a really

753
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: big find. Twenty seventeen, obviously Taco Charlon's a disappointment, but

754
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: even in that draft you get two starting caliber players,

755
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: actually three if you count Xavier Woods, he's a date three.

756
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: And then you know twenty sixteen. That's a once in

757
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: a generation type of draft. But more often than not,

758
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: I trust them to find contributors in those early rounds

759
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: because they've done it way more often than they haven't.

760
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: I would agree completely. I think this has to be

761
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: a draft where you have to hit on a couple

762
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: of guys which you want to keep that winning window open.

763
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't think the pressure has ever been greater on

764
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: Will McClay and his staff because again, they're they're going

765
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: to give out so much money. Whether you know dak Amari,

766
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: we'll see how it all plays out. But the way

767
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: you afford big name contracts like that is by hitting

768
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: on your draft picks. You have to have guys bawling

769
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: out on cheap contracts to be successful when you're paying

770
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: that kind of money. So first, second, and third round

771
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: they better be contributors, he could preferably, they better be

772
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: like starting caliber contract. And it's got to be in

773
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: positions of need as well. I mean, unless you wanted

774
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: to go the what we've coined as the forty Burger

775
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: route in the Draft Show and draft a wide receiver early.

776
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: Other than that, it needs to be secondary, defensive line,

777
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: tight end potentially, depending on what you think of that position.

778
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different needs here, and with the

779
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: window seemingly closing on the era of the or at

780
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: least the not era, but at least the modern Cowboys

781
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: potentially trying to win another Super Bowl with some of

782
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: these young talents on cheap contracts, with all of the

783
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: money that's man shelled out. With that closing, you've got

784
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: to hit on a couple of if they get the

785
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: same contributions from their first three picks as they did

786
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, it's not gonna be good. They will

787
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: be talking about how twenty twenty was a disappointing season.

788
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's so scary to have hope for

789
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill this season. Um, I have a little bit.

790
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna go as far as to

791
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: say I have hope, but I'm just not ready to

792
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: close the book. That's not fair to him. It's not

793
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: it's not fair to him to just again, I mean,

794
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: Byron Jones was a disappointment two years into his career,

795
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: actually three, He did not really hit his stride as

796
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: a great player, which you need it to be faster

797
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: than that. Like, they can't afford to wait two more

798
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: years for Tristan Hill to be good. But it's still

799
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: it's not fair to call his career a bust after

800
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: one season. But a top way he was picked fifty eight.

801
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: A top sixty player should play regularly and be a

802
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: healthy scrap, not be a healthy scrap. I mean, yeah,

803
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: even you know, Michael Gallup was nowhere near as good

804
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: his rookie year as he was in year two. He

805
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: still started and caught forty balls and was part contribute.

806
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: He was part of a reason of their success. He

807
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: wasn't struggling to make a ross right, which was kind

808
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: of the issue, and he was taking twenty spots after

809
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. It's it's there's no there's no way to

810
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: defend it. But it's too early to say that that's

811
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: going to be his entire career. And with a different

812
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: coaching staff too. It throws a new wrinkle into this

813
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: to where it's either going to sink or swim. Yeah,

814
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it is going to be for

815
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: and maybe this year or next year. You obviously you

816
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: lose a great defensive line coaching Rod Marinelli. But Jim

817
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: tom Sula has been your boy boy. I want to

818
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: get a beer with Jim tom Sula. I doubt. I

819
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: doubt he listens to the break. But Jim, let's go,

820
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: We're an indie, Come bind me find a way. I

821
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: feel like if you told him to listen to it,

822
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: he'd be like, sure, where do I get it? Seriously

823
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: that's on Twitter and be like the what. But he

824
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: has coached a lot of great defensive lineman. He has

825
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: been around the NFL, so he can help Tristan Hill

826
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: maximize his talent um it's too early to call his

827
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: career a bust, but I mean there's no way around

828
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: the disappointment of that rookie. See quickly referenced Layton vanderash

829
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: a moment ago. And are you worried after hearing from

830
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: Steven yesterday saying you know, things are okay, but I mean,

831
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take it slow coming up these

832
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: next few months. I'm not worried because of what Steven said.

833
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: So if you didn't if you didn't listen or read it,

834
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones say, you know, everything sounds good. We continue

835
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: to get positive feedback after his surgery. That said, you know,

836
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a plan for him. We're not just

837
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: going to throw him in there. We probably won't completely

838
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: let him loose until training camp. Um. So I'm not

839
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: worried by those comments. I'm just worried because netball are terrible.

840
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Thing like neck and back are the two injuries you

841
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: do not want to hear about it well, and especially

842
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: with a linebacker playing downhill, the physical ta position in

843
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: the game exactly, you don't want to hear about neck injuries.

844
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: And I think he goes all the way back. My

845
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: worry for Laton Vanderich goes back to the press conference

846
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: that Jason Garrett had after the injury was app we

847
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's career threatening, career threatening, and everybody was like,

848
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, Like, now that you've brought that up,

849
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: now I think it might be. So it really stems

850
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: from that. I don't think it will hinder his career now.

851
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna miss some time for it, but

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Speaker 1: I would rather them take the route that Stephen talked

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Speaker 1: about and take it extremely slow and not risk potentially

854
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Speaker 1: rooting his career, ending his career prematurely. Let's take it slow,

855
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: invest in what was a first round pick, and at

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Speaker 1: least make sure that he's good to go from the

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Speaker 1: remainder of his career, which it kind of goes. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tie this back to the top of

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Speaker 1: the show. Watch me do this, do it, Dave. There's

860
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: so many there's so many elements with with this CBA

861
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Speaker 1: and with these contracts. Yeah, Jerry Jones uses this phrase

862
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: all the time. You have to have a tolerance for ambiguity,

863
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Speaker 1: and that's you know, there's there's two camps of people.

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Speaker 1: There are people that are like Layton's gonna be fine.

865
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Speaker 1: He'll be a pro bowler again in twenty twenty. And

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Speaker 1: there's people that are like, his next hurt, he'll never

867
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Speaker 1: walk again. We have to draft a linebacker. And it's

868
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: like you can find some common ground in there and say,

869
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely concerned about his long term health, but we

870
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Speaker 1: just drafted him, and I'm just gonna give their medical

871
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: process the benefit of the doubt and say, these guys

872
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Speaker 1: know what they're doing, not saying he's one hundred percent fine,

873
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Speaker 1: but you just kind of have to wait and see

874
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: and say, we'll carry this thing through. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if we're still having this conversation about his health next year,

876
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: it's a completely different conversation. But now I'm willing to

877
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Speaker 1: believe that he can regain his health and his all

878
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: pro form and we don't have to worry about this.

879
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: And it's it seems like people are always in a

880
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: rush to declare this is a five alarm fire, we

881
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: have to do something, or this is nothing. Shut up,

882
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: and it can be in the middle somewhere. Just don't

883
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction, right, which to a guy's career. Yeah, potentially,

884
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: but that goes against the nature of this very business.

885
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: That's for sure. That guys, we are out of my

886
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: guy already give me a couple of nuggets that we're

887
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: gonna just hear from you guys all throughout the week.

888
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna be talking about. We just gave

889
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: you all our nuggets We've got. We had draft shows

890
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Speaker 1: all the rest of the week. Shoot, Mike McCarthy hasn't

891
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: even talked. He'll be doing that later this week. Tomorrow.

892
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Speaker 1: You're getting like a real spa with Mike McCarthy. Yeah.

893
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: The dang drills don't even start until Thursday, so like

894
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: we're just ramping up so we'll have drill results. We'll

895
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Speaker 1: have Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones is going to talk. And

896
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Speaker 1: where does Jerry talk? That's a big TBD, my friend. Wow,

897
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: you won't be here though, but usually it's at the

898
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: end of the week around the bus. Yeah, we're gonna

899
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: go on Jerry's bus and have a chat. It's it's fine,

900
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: wait for that. It's gonna be good. Which but I'm

901
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Speaker 1: not lying. I don't know when that's It's like no, no, no,

902
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: they don't tell us. We'll just stay ready. It's like, oh,

903
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: we're always ready. It's like you get a self destruct

904
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: message in the mail that's like this is where like

905
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Speaker 1: be here at two o'clock on Friday. You're going to

906
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: be the Raiders and the Chargers and the Texans and

907
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna be sitting at your radio road table and

908
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: then all of the Cowboys staff is just gonna book

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Speaker 1: it out of the re Oh. Yeah, And that's what

910
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I mean, that's what it's gonna look like.

911
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Speaker 1: It's gonna look like there was a fire drill and

912
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Speaker 1: the only ones that knew about it were the Dallas

913
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Speaker 1: Cowboys media. That's what's gonna be. Can't wait, Kyle Dave Lenz,

914
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Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in to this little shin

915
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Speaker 1: dig of the break. Catch them the rest of the

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Speaker 1: week right here from Indie. This has been a production

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