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Speaker 1: What's the play they keep on trying? That's all Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of Hard Knocks, presented by Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Jansas, and I'm joined by the tiny box

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Speaker 1: to my tug boat wearing a robe somewhere I don't

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Speaker 1: know where, but you look smashing, Colleen Wolf. Dan, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a big day for me. I am in

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Speaker 1: little ron Burgundy. I'm really leaning in and enjoying myself.

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Speaker 1: So I put on this blue robe to do the show.

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Speaker 1: Is this gonna end with you having a brown drink

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Speaker 1: ten foot pool? I hope. So I have to locate

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Speaker 1: a couple of those items first during the show, but

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Speaker 1: maybe if everyone's lucky fingers crossed? All right? So we are, yes,

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Speaker 1: separated by hundreds of miles, but we're together to talk.

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Speaker 1: Episode two of Hard Knocks training Camp with the Detroit

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Speaker 1: song snaps you right into it. I'm focused. I do

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Speaker 1: want him to go on me like he will on

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Speaker 1: you if you're not paying attention during a preseason game, which,

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Speaker 1: football for a long time, Connie. Everybody knows that preseason is,

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Speaker 1: typically see when they flashed to the sidelines. And yet

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell was telling his gang, if you are not

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Speaker 1: And I thought, obviously coming off episode one, Episode one

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, because I think there's been so much positive

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Speaker 1: I was a high school kid when he was the

430
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Speaker 1: greatest running back on the planet, Listen. Emma Smith might

431
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: have been the most decorated or that have the most yards,

432
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: but the best running back in the nineties and maybe

433
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Speaker 1: the best running back ever in the non Jim Brown

434
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Speaker 1: category to me might be Barry Sanders. That's how amazing

435
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: he was and special. And Barry is not, to me

436
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: the most charismatic individual when I see when he's interviewed,

437
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't always jump off the page. And I you

438
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: almost could sense the hard knocks wanted to give him

439
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: a little more juice in this episode, but it just

440
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: didn't say anything that interesting on the sideline other than man,

441
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: this grass iss sure is green? I mean, listen, he

442
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: loved it, though I did enjoy the flashback to where

443
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: he had the massive shoulder pads, like with the dead

444
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: grass supporting as a quick as side. It is incredible

445
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: how far the teams and the league itself has come

446
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: in terms of field preparation and maintaining and in general

447
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: just putting in the players in the best position to

448
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: be healthy and successful. Uh. That was only and it

449
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: looked like they were playing on a sand lot in

450
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: Brooklyn in nineteen fifty. It was like, what are we

451
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Speaker 1: what are we doing here? But luckily Barry never suffered

452
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: an injury on that type of turf. Um. You know,

453
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Speaker 1: since you bring it up, two things Number one, um,

454
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Speaker 1: I once covered the first Super Bowl ever covered with

455
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty six in Indianapolis. Giants Patriots too and

456
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: me and Mark it was both our first Super Bowl

457
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: UH coverage experience together. And our boss at the time,

458
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: Justin um, put us to work and it was fine.

459
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: We were young and hungry and we wanted it. We

460
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: ended up both working like seventy five or eighty hours

461
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: that week. When we turned to the time card, it

462
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: was like a minor disaster back in the home office

463
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: when we turned in the card. But you get up

464
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Speaker 1: to that number because of things like on Saturday before

465
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I was sent to cover the celebrity

466
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: flag football game at the minor league field in Indianapolis,

467
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: which was wild. Uh Snoop was the captain of one team.

468
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: I believe Maria Minutos was the standout on the other team.

469
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: And the only thing I can tell you is that

470
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: it was a mix of UM stars, stars and and

471
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: retired athletes and Barry Sanders. I'll never forget being completely

472
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Speaker 1: kind of out of the game plan. Like Barry Sanders

473
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: was on one of the teams in this flag football

474
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: contest and they rarely used him. I'll never forget that,

475
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: just seeing Barry wandering around the field not getting the

476
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: ball and who put this together? Whose fault was that?

477
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then also on the Barry Sanders tip,

478
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Speaker 1: Yes it is time now for our Leef Schreiber quote

479
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: of the week with our Leef Schreiber stand in the

480
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Speaker 1: great Jason Zumwalt take it away, Jay Detroit Icon Barry Sanders,

481
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: is this straight up legend ironic because straight lines were

482
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: never his move? Two for two so good, He's so

483
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: good at this they could just pay some wall to

484
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, well, probably be cheaper, all right. What

485
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: other takeaways Connie as we get uh closer to the

486
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: picks for episodes, Yes, I just have like, uh two

487
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: other little things, you know how I I think the

488
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: greatest compliment that anyone can give is calling someone a bastard,

489
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: because that's what I have named our a t N

490
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: text change of bastards. Like, when someone is a bastard,

491
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: they are someone who can joke around and they can

492
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of like trash each other in a fun way.

493
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like we saw that a lot throughout

494
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: this episode with Douce Daley telling guys to study because

495
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: they're not getting dates for their looks. Dan Campbell getting

496
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: on T. J. Hockenson about his short that looked like

497
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: his wives have shorts that looked like that they were

498
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: very short. I mean that was that was one of

499
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: the highlights for me. But I think that that is

500
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: sort of a recurring theme that there are some some

501
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: pretty big bustards on this team. Yeah, that's good starts. UM.

502
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: Always good to have a few of those. Are a

503
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: bunch of those. UM. I had a question about hutch

504
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: hutch did the MJ sack celebration or a tackle? He

505
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: had a tackle for loss in the preseason game, um,

506
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: and it was Michael Jackson impersonation. I don't know, because

507
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't follow the game college game closely. Was that

508
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: directly because of the Billy Jean moment from episode one

509
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: or was that something he's done previous in his career.

510
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: I assumed that it was because of episode one, and

511
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I think at one point even his mom says that

512
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: she had texted him about it earlier in the day

513
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: like that. So I think that they're just trying to

514
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: like build the brand a little bit. It's like they

515
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: have the Hut clothing line. They're trying to build that

516
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: brand and aid Hutchinson was also rehearsing the handshake that

517
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: he was going to do. I guess it's like a

518
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: handshakes handshakes celebration, like when he was tapping someone up.

519
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: They were rehearsing it on the side earlier in the episode,

520
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: so I thought that was kind of cute. It was

521
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: it was is there anything else we want to hit

522
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: before we get to our m v P votes using

523
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: voting system. The only thing I was thinking was in

524
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: the recap, like last time on Hard Knocks, they replayed

525
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams and his speech and when he said if

526
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: you're going to piss like a puppy, stay on the

527
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: porch and let the big dogs eat. In the moment,

528
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: I really wasn't sure what the hell he was talking about,

529
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: but when they replayed it, I figured it out. I

530
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: finally realized, Oh, I guess he means the puppies are

531
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: scared and that's why they're pissing on the porch. But

532
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: it's still a little unclear. I guess that's in connect

533
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: with you. It didn't connect with me because I've never

534
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: had puppies pissing on the porch before. I've never had

535
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: a porch, So yeah, I guess the big dogs eating

536
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: and the puppies pissing, I got like a little confused

537
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: in the metaphors. Okay, well you eventually landed it, so

538
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: everything everything's fine. Plotline predictions for episode three I got, okay,

539
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: we need and you could feel it the Hard Knocks

540
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: producers like, Okay, we need to get into Jared Goff

541
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: at some point? Is it if we wait till episode four?

542
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: That feels too long? We can't push it an episode

543
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: five because that's just almost disrespect got the time before

544
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: gone right, So it's like, I feel like episode three

545
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: is going to be a neat little spot for him. Um,

546
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: we're still waiting, as I mentioned last week, for a

547
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: visit downtown that pays homage to the Detroit music scene,

548
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, soul, blues, hip hop, garage rock. You know,

549
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: we get a Jack White visit, his visits Lions Practice.

550
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: You know, these are all things that could be that.

551
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: And uh, one last prediction is you you mentioned Jamal

552
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: Williams and his dog metaphors, Um, bring him back? I

553
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: mean I was saying before the show to grave digression

554
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: and who's an example of a running back who whenever

555
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: he gets a chance, shines and then all of a

556
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: sudden he goes into hibernation. The coach puts him in

557
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Mothballs Tony Pollard. Great job by Grave Digger there with

558
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: the cowboys. That's what it felt like for episode two.

559
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: It's like Jammal Williams just blew up the world and

560
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: then all we get from him is an episode closing

561
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Uh dad joke about James Bond. I need more Jamal

562
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: Williams in episode three, bubb seven, it was so good

563
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: James Bond taking a bath Bubbalo seven. Let's listen to

564
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: the joke in case you didn't hear the joke. What

565
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: s alright, It's time for episode MVP voting again. Vector

566
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: voting scale, first, second, and third place votes all carried

567
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: different H point totals that are weighted. At the end

568
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: of the fifth episode the finale on September six, we

569
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: will reveal uh through addition just simple math, that Grave

570
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Digger will handle um who is indeed the Hard Knocks

571
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: m VP for who is your first place? Wait? Dan,

572
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: can I stop you right there? Yeah? What if we

573
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: count up from third second first? A little more drama

574
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: on the reveal? You know, what good job are you?

575
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: It was actually running through my head. Should we do

576
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: it that way? I went the other way? But now

577
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: that you're coming in. That's good producer work, and that's

578
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Justin Graver. Who is your third place vote for m

579
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: VP of episode two. I'm gonna go with Deuce Daley.

580
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: He's been a favorite of mine from the jump. Last

581
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: week he was my second place vote, so this week

582
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go second place again with Deuce,

583
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna knock him down to three. All Right,

584
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I have and that's a good vote. We're going to

585
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: hear more about Deuce in a minute. Third place, I

586
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: have Dan Campbell. Obviously this wasn't Campbell's episode one coming

587
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: out party, but he had two lines that I love. First,

588
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the a form mentioned uh chance encounter with Hockinson his

589
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: tight end that led to this commentary on his shorts

590
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: really accentuate. And then uh Devin Funches, who you may

591
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: remember once upon a time being a panther's wide receiver

592
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: of note. Now he's looking to catch on and make

593
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: a splash with the Lions. He makes a nice catch

594
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone, and I believe

595
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: it was a tim Boil throw and Campbell, I think,

596
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: kind of into his headset, but also to no one

597
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: in particular have this to say funches bunches of votes.

598
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: All right, I love that one that gets him, that

599
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: gets him on the metal stand. Who's your second place?

600
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Second place is m On raw St Brown's dad, John Brown,

601
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: John Brown, Are you serious? John Brown? Don't call him

602
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: John st Brown because he's not. Yeah, he's it's gotta be.

603
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean the old footage of him as Mr Universe

604
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and then all of the stuff with him in the

605
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: weight room with them now, I mean, it was just perfect.

606
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: I also like, um, you know, as a dad, and

607
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: I just got back from Legoland um today this morning

608
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: in fact, and I'm just like, I mean, the eight

609
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: year old, we're just starting to bump heads a little

610
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: bit because he just won't listen to me as much anymore.

611
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: So you know, we're starting to you know, do that thing,

612
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: do that dance, that part of fatherhood and you got

613
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: a freedom red meat three times a day. That's it.

614
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: I like this line. I could I could empathize with

615
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: this line from John Brown where he's like, you know,

616
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: people should listen to me. I know I'm a father

617
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: and I'm freaking Mr Universe two times. I know what

618
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm Yes, Maybe he just want at once. M hmmm.

619
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: I love how many times do you think he reminds

620
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: people about that? And that's so awesome. I love it.

621
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: I think John Brown is a reality If it was

622
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, he would have a reality a

623
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: show on TLC. Off this. I mean, maybe there's still time. Yeah,

624
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: all right, so we both have John. But I don't know.

625
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I thought about is that throwing away a vote? Because

626
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: you know John Brown? Is he gonna keep popping up?

627
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: But we don't know. Maybe you will. I hope he's

628
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: exactly that's I had no problem with that. A second place,

629
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: I bet. I know we're going to have the same

630
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: first place now. I don't think so. In fact, I

631
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: know we won't. Who's your first place? WHOA I'm going

632
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: with Rodrigo. I feel like he had such a big

633
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: part of I mean, he was just such a big

634
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: part of like that whole speech when Kelvin Sheppard was

635
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: ripping everybody apart. He was kind of a star practice. Uh,

636
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: you've got Rodrigo talking about it's a great time get

637
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: to be hit in practice and hitting people. I don't know.

638
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: That was He's my he's my underdog that I'm rooting for,

639
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: and so I had to give him my first place vote.

640
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: I totally see where you're coming from that. I you know,

641
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Speaker 1: the reason why he didn't get a vote for me

642
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: is because I thought the storyline around him is interesting,

643
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: but I didn't think he personally did enough to get

644
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: the gold or or metal for me. So I'm happy

645
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: that he's thriving, but I need to see more for

646
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: him to get on the metal stand. I gave it

647
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: to de Staley. I think that I love Dues how

648
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: he's acing what is essentially an audition for the thirty

649
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: one other teams as a head coach, and that's what

650
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: these that's what this show can be UM for an

651
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: assistant coach, And I don't think there's anything I think

652
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: he's being himself. I think he's being real. I loved

653
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: that uh that whole interlude with uh DeAndre Swift. I

654
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: just thought that was that's a good coach. That's a

655
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: guy that is using his experience UH to see the

656
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: that Swift is a special player. The way he talked

657
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: about him to the coaches, the way he spoke directly

658
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: UH too Swift in the meeting right after that, And

659
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: it did remind me of the so always stuck with

660
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: me UM on all or nothing. The all or nothing

661
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: season with the Arizona Cardinals. Uh, there's an end of

662
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: season meeting, private meeting between the running backs coach of

663
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: that team named Stump Mitchell and a young David Johnson,

664
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: and Stump Mitchell says kind of the same thing or

665
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: something similar uh to what do said to DeAndre Swift,

666
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: which is, listen, you could be really special. You could

667
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: be as good as anybody in the league right now

668
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: if you just keep up what you're doing. That was

669
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: more like you're doing everything great, just keep doing it.

670
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Does clearly thinks that Swift needs to be pushed, and

671
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: I think, um, Swift, I don't know if he does

672
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: make the leap in year three, but I think he

673
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: has the right coach to do it. So I think

674
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Deuce back to back episodes has been really uh fun

675
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: to watch and just seems like the type exact type

676
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: of guy you as a head coach you want underneath

677
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: you as an assistant coach. I've been slow playing my

678
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Doucet Dailey love a little bit because i have just

679
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: like always loved him so much, and I'm I've been

680
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: worried watching this that I'm a little biased because of

681
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: his past with the Eagles and everything else. But now

682
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: you're just confirming that everything I'm thinking is right. So yeah,

683
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: the Deuce Daley love is real. No, the Deuce Staley

684
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: train is rolling. And and a special mention to my

685
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: guy Aaron Glenn, who I do. I think he's coming

686
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: off very well in this show as well. And if

687
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: that defense gets a lot better this year, and it could, um,

688
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: I think his name is going to come up for

689
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs come January. Uh. Just the guy that

690
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: obviously commands respect and knows his ball. All right. Now,

691
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, a couple of things, Connie, we

692
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: gave Grave Digger a lot of work. I feel like

693
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: our producer in episode one, I think we had asked him,

694
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: uh swag. We asked for Detroit pizza at some point. Yeah,

695
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: there might have been a third request that I'm not

696
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: recalling out the time. Where are we with the request?

697
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: So where are we? Producer? Justin after one week we

698
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: have merch has arrived. Hey, this is great. I'm gonna

699
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: come in the studio to present it to Dan and

700
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: then we can hold up your so you can see it,

701
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: because we'll go to you when you're back in town.

702
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I'll be in studio next week. Perfect. I have a

703
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: lead on Detroit style pizza, So maybe next week in

704
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: studio we'll eat a little bit. Maybe that's a finale thing.

705
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it is. But if you got to leave, that's

706
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: great news. And then the third request I will have

707
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: to double check on because I also don't remember what

708
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: it was. Um, great, all right here it comes justin

709
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: with the shirts we got the merch Yes we got.

710
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: And that's not what's a varsity jacket looking? Oh, Connie,

711
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: it is NFL films on the front. It's clearly as

712
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: Connie's shirt. This would be it's a cruise shirt. Yeah,

713
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: T shirt, hard box. True, that's beautiful. Thank you to

714
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: Ken Rodgers and the very good. Um, we'll wear that

715
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: with pride. Listen, where does that's great? Integrity doesn't isn't

716
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: a thing on the Hard Knocks podcast. Now, we're proud

717
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: of this, this whole operation and the product, and we're

718
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: just promoting it absolutely special shout out to Chris Wong

719
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: for sending those to us. Chris, Thanks Chris, We love you.

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00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Um all right now, we'll be back next week episode three.

721
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Speaker 1: Make sure you tune it for that and especial I'm

722
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm especially excited for this one, Connie, because you're gonna

723
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: be in studio with me, and we're gonna really we're

724
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: gonna chop up episode three, you know, real quick. I

725
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: hope that there's some more cars involved. I know that

726
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: that's like another thing with Detroit, and I thought there

727
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: would be more cars, like I noticed that they incorporated

728
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: some of the guys using like big tires and then

729
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: with smash cut to like an old car type thing

730
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: to make that Detroit theme go. But I'm hoping there's

731
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: more coming up that. You also reminded me of David

732
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: blow and his uh hype speech on the last drive

733
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: when they're trying to run out the clock and I

734
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's listening to him, but he's in

735
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: the hud only is like, listen, this city. You know

736
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: they like it tough. They you know, they want us

737
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: to grind this out, and and we're gonna show the

738
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: city that we're tough like them. And then like a snap,

739
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: fires off his hands again. Bitter sweet day for the

740
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: blow hearts. But there's always next week on Hard. I

741
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: hope this time next week, Connie, we are talking positively

742
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: about David blow having a big week two preseason. But

743
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: we'll have to wait. Well, I'll bring the rope all right,

744
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening. Here he comes, David Rob.

745
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: Do you think David just walks around the house this plank?

746
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I hope he wakes up and it starts playing. Its

747
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: like he just turns it on and his wife's like,

748
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: turn it off. He's making coffee with it all. No, no, non,

749
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: turn it off? Alright until next week. See