1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: there's Chuck, and there's guest producer Jerry sitting in for 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Dave c. Yeah, and this is short Stuff getting up. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: No time to explain any of the Jerry Dave thing, No, 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: not at all, because we're on an airplane and there's 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: a jerk in first class yammering on his cell phone 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: because it's now okay to talk on take cell phone 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: calls on planes. Why would you do that to me? 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Why would you even create that, that little situation, that 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: sketch of a horrible day, just to drive fear into people, 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: because it's not really true. Um, it's been a while 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: since I've flown on a plane. Exactly one year actually, 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: oh yet to the day, not to the day, but 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: about then about a year in a WEEKI jerk, fifty 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: four weeks. Uh. But yes, you cannot make sell phone 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: calls because there are a couple of bodies in the 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: United States that make sure you can't. The f A 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: A and the f C c OH. I thought you 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: were going to say Rob Low and Tom Selleck, just 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: a couple of bodies. Yeah, um, so yeah, there's actually 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: two federal agencies that ban the use of cell phones 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: because everybody hates it so much that everyone wanted to 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: get a no banning it. The f a A says, well, 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: the reason we ban it is because we're pretty sure 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: that that could conceivably interfere with the planes instrumentation. Um, 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: and you don't want to do that because you could 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: make a plane drop out of the skuy probably And 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: the SEC says yeah yeah. Plus also it will totally 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: mess with calls on the ground because those ones up 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: in the air will be jumping from tower to tower 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: and it will just be a big problem. Yeah. And 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: I think pre two wasn't didn't you even have to 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: power down your cell phone? Yes, they were like, just 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: don't just take your cell phone and throw it out 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: the window, like Mitt Rodney says, roll down your your 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: airplanes window and just throw it out midflight. We don't 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: even want them onto here. They were basically like, just 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: do not do anything with your cell phone. And then 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: finally somebody told them about airplane mode, appropriately called airplane 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: mode because it cuts off the cellular service on your phone, 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: but it remains it keeps like the WiFi intact if 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: you're if you have it turned on right, and ever 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: since then you could at least go through and and 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: spend a couple of hours deleting pictures that you don't 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: need clogging up your storage space. That's right. I like 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: to just like there's one of the things that was 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: always great about a flight, as you were just disconnected 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: for an hour or five hours or something, you were 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: just just like you could bring an actual printed book 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: with you and like read it, you know. But with 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the with the advent of WiFi on planes and everything, 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: it's like, now it's connected and you can commu indicade 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: and it's just you can do other stuff that you 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: do under normal circumstances, and it's ruined everything. Yeah, I 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: will still unless I really legitimately have stuff I have 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: to get done for work, I will still not get 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: my laptop out and get online just to surf the web. 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I give myself that break. Yeah. No, it's 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: a it's good to do. It's you know, it's so 60 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: easy to be addicted to computers and the Internet and 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: everything that sometime it's hard. It is. Uh, the deal 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: with whether or not it could really interfere with communication 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: systems or the planes flight systems. Uh, that is probably 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: not the case because planes are hardened, meaning um, all 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: of those electronics that are important on a plane, like 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: the flight control system are covered or you know, boxed 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: in this electrically conductive material that prevents any kind of 68 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: electromagnetic interference. So they've kind of taking care of that 69 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: for the most part, but they still air on the 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: side of caution and they're like, but let's just not 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: do it. Still. Yeah, they do know that electro magnetic 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: interference can affect planes. Things like lightning and solar flares 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: UM have affected instrumentation on planes, and especially with GPS, 74 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: which is critical in uh, take off but especially landing. Um. 75 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: It's it's it's really sensitive to electro magnetic radiation interference. 76 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: So you don't want anything messing with that, least of 77 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: all somebody who just has to talk on the phone, 78 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: because the worst reason to allow it, right, So they 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: know that it can happen, but they couldn't find in 80 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: this one study in the two thousand odds uh, any 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: any smoking gun that said, yes, this plane fell out 82 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: of the sky because somebody was talking on a cell phone. 83 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: It was just they knew it was conceivably possible. Even 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: though they shielded or hardened the stuff, um to prevent 85 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: that that. They still said, it's just it's just not 86 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: worth it. Everybody hates people talking on cell phones anyway, 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: so why would we make an exception when it could 88 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: also conceivably mess with the planes? Instrumentation agreed. Should we 89 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: take a break? Yes, all right, we'll take a break 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: and finish up with this stuff right after this. Alright. 91 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: So here's what they don't have on planes is any 92 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of alert to a flight attendant that says, hey, 93 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: there's a jerk on row fifteen in the middle seat 94 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: that's hunched down and using their cell phone. Go back 95 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: there and stop him. They don't have prejudice. Yeah, totally. 96 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: They should bring that pot of coffee. Um, they should stop. 97 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: They should have that stuff, but they don't. But generally, 98 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: I think anybody if they saw their seat mate next 99 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: to them trying to make a phone call or calling 100 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: somebody would be smart enough to alert the flight attendant 101 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: and say, hey, you can't do this, get this jerk 102 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: off a here. My hand would shoot up. Like a 103 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: third grader with the right answer to the question the 104 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: teacher just asked, I'd be like, oh, oh, they're on 105 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: their phone. I would sell on somebody so fast, Yes, yeah, 106 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't even care if they gave me stitches 107 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: for niches. That's right. Um at thirty six thousand feet though, 108 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be connecting with the cell tower anyway. 109 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: I think we have all been in situations where we 110 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: may not have realized that our phone wasn't on airplane mode, 111 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: and you'll hear You're like, when you start to land, 112 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: you'll hear your phone ding, like a message just come through, 113 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh boy, I didn't know that that 114 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: could even happen. Uh. They must really mean it when 115 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: they say put your phone on airplane mode. Yeah, that's 116 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: what the SEC's whole position was, is that um air 117 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: traffic would mess with ground traffic, and that cell phone 118 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: towers are basically designed to hand off from one tower 119 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to the next in a cell um as you're walking by, UM, 120 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: driving by tops, not you know, flying a couple of 121 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour at ten thousand feet as you're 122 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: coming in for a landing. Yeah there, and yeah, exactly 123 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of people on a plane all doing at 124 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: the same time, because you're gonna attack the capacity of 125 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: each tower they're not designed to register in handoff calls 126 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: like that that fast. Um, and so the the SEC 127 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: is like that could really interrupt ground communications. So that's 128 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: another reason not to do it. Yeah, but generally those uh, 129 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: they're not looking up anyway, which is why you can't 130 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: get that signal at thirty six thousand feet. But like 131 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: I said, anything less than ten thousand beat and it 132 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: might be possible, So you just shouldn't try. Still. Yeah, 133 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: and Richard Branson said, what is one way that I 134 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: can fully ruin the experience of flying for people? And 135 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: uh in two thousand and ten, I believe around then 136 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: he came up with the answer, and that was to 137 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: offer cell phone service via UM little uh what are 138 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: they called pico Yeah, Pico cells. Pico cells, little tiny 139 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: cell towers that use the plane's WiFi to transmit cell 140 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: phone calls. So on Virgin UM some Virgin flights that 141 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: are not in the United States or within two fifty 142 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: poles of the United States, you can make cell phone 143 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: calls aboard the plane. Yeah, that's I think he probably 144 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: thought that would enhance the experience because he's all about 145 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we both flown rgin. It's it's the best. 146 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: It's awesome. Oh yeah, there's that pantry. You can stand 147 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: up and just go get candy from any time you 148 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: want to love it. That Australian flight was like the 149 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: one of the nicest experiences I've ever had in the air, 150 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: for sure. I I suspect he's promoting his Virgin Mobile 151 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: business though by well maybe you know, but it is 152 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: weird that someone that has taken such great care to 153 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: make the flight such a great experience then ruins it 154 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: by saying everyone can talk on their cell phones now. Maybe. Yeah, 155 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: nice chill lights, lavender aroma therapy. It is such a 156 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: nice experience, for sure. It really is country. Hey, while 157 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: we're here, I just want to say, I want to 158 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: take a second when we're talking about Virgin Uh, my 159 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: niece Mila just recently flew to New Zealand for eleven 160 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: weeks because she's co starring in a major motion picture 161 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: and that's where they're shooting. Are you serious? I am 162 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: dead serious, man. My parents are there right now for 163 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: a level week. She is and wow she is. Yeah, 164 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: like she's one of the co lete she's one of 165 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: the main characters. Like I think her hands are going 166 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: to be on the poster. That's amazing, isn't it huge? Congratulations, 167 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: it's really exciting. I'll keep you posted as I can. 168 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm not entirely certain I can include this, 169 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: so we may end up editing it out. But at 170 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: the event, at least you know now well and when 171 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: the time comes, we can promote it on movie crush. 172 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: Oh nice, thanks man, that's very of course. So uh. 173 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: The FCC basically spent many years saying, like, Okay, is 174 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: this really a problem? Should we allow like Richard Branson's 175 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: making us look like total jerks? Should we allow this? 176 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: And they, after several years of study, they concluded they said, no, nuts, 177 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: nuts to Richard Branson. They said the flight attendants. You know, 178 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: they asked a lot of people. They didn't just do 179 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: the studies about safety. They asked actual people who work 180 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: on planes, and the flight attendants were all like, no, known, 181 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, they need to be listening to us, um, 182 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Especially in the case of an emergency. The first thing 183 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: everyone would do would be to get out their phone 184 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: and try and call their loved ones. And that's when 185 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: they most need to be listening to things. Right, that's 186 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: a big one, um. But then there's also the annoyance factor. 187 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: And this to me is where it just becomes like 188 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: the most important thing. Just everything else forget it. It's 189 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: so obnoxious to even while you're on the tarmac waiting 190 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: for them to shut the door, and there's people sitting 191 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: there talking on the phone. That's obnoxious. Enough of food 192 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: from the food court even that, I'm like, Okay, at 193 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: least they're they're providing their bodies sustenance and nourishment. I 194 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: can live with it. The phone is like and you 195 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: can tell from the conversation there's just no point in 196 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: this transpiring, and yet it is, and and there's another 197 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: one in, another one, another one. Being on a plane 198 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: like that for many, many hours is awful. It's an 199 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: awful idea. Yeah, it's that situation and where John Hodgeman 200 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: always talks about being aware of the impact that you 201 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: have on others, and I've always subscribed to that. But 202 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: the person that has their shoes off and they got 203 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: their Panda Express like piping hot meal in their lap 204 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: and they're talking on their cell phone before the flight 205 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: takes off, that's the person that's like paid for the seat, 206 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: Let just do what I wanted, and I paid for 207 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: the seat. Don't be that person, I know, Yeah, because 208 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: you just don't have an effect on everybody. Be kinder, 209 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: think about other people. Yeah, but hey, enjoy your pain 210 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: expressed because you're providing. There's got to be some nourishing 211 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: nutrients somewhere. Sure. Yeah, those green peppers are okay. You 212 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: got anything else? I got nothing else? Okay, Well, then 213 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: that means short stuff says stay off your phone. Stuff 214 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: you should Know is a production of I heart Radio. 215 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: For more podcasts my heart Radio, visit the i heart 216 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 217 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: favorite shows.