1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Russell takes the snap, 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: steps off in the pocket, looks has time. Now he's 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna throw. Tyler Locker looks for the ball. He's got 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Strayhawks getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: The handoff inside the Carson starts up the metal now 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: bounces it the troven to Steahawks powered by Seahawks dot Com. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to a brand new edition of the podcast, Jen 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Mueller and John Boyle with Yes we get you ready 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: for a Seahawks home game against the New York Jets. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: The Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. We say that with a 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: little less excitement. I think this week, John, given what 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: we saw last week against the Giants, how are you 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: feeling after that game and about where this team is 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: during a point in the year where we would expect 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: them to be finishing straw. Yeah, I mean it's disappointing you. 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: You cost yourself a game that you could have and 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: probably should have won by making some mistakes and not 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: playing very well on offense. And look, we'll see what 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: that means at the end of the year. If the 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Sea Uts can run the table. They can still win 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: the NFC West, but you could be kicking yourself depending 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: on seeding and things like that. So you hate to 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: let one get away. But as Pete Carroll said, now 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: it's all about putting that one behind you and moving 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: on to a strong finish over this last four game stretch. 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Reaction after that game on Sunday was so strong, and 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: I do think that a lot of it was disappointment, 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: it was frustration. It was to your point, that missed opportunity. 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: But with the benefit of hindsight, what do you take 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: away from that, Whether it be how the offense functioned, 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the defense that looks like it's turned the corner, or 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe just refocusing for the last few games of the 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah, I mean, to me, the biggest takeaway 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: is just the offense needs to get going again, and 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily need to be score thirty five points 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: a game because the defense is getting better, and as 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has pointed out, defenses appear to be catching 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: up a little bit from the start of the season 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: league wide. Just we're scoring was so high and teams 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: are playing the Seahawks different and they need to adjust 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: to that and figure out ways too. Again, they don't 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: need to be necessarily winning shootouts every week, but they 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: gotta do better, and they did last week, And I 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: guess if I was going to take a kind of 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: silver lining for people out of this in a way, 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: even though that loss wasn't very good, in a way, 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: I feel better about this team is a potential deeper 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: run in the playoffs type team as it structured now 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: then early in the year, because look, I have a 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: lot of faith in Russell Wilson, this offense getting back 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: on track and being really dangerous. If you told me 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: the beginning the year the defense was going to play 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: like that all year and you had to win every 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: game thirty five to thirty, I don't think that's sustainable 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: for playoff run. If you're telling me this defense is 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: going to play like it is and all you need 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: is the offense to get going again, I like that 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: formula a lot better come playoff time. So there's two 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: things in that that you said, yes, I think the 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: defense is playing said this show. Look, I know that 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the numbers get and when you see that they point 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: on ards per rush against the Giants, it looks like 63 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: a big number and it is. But you can account 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot of those to two big plays that happened 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: back to back, So to me, I know what happened 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: on those plays, right, Like you know where the accountability 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: comes in on the team. I'm not really worried about it. 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: It's not like the Giants actually did run all over 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: the team, but like, is there enough there or are 70 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: people just gonna look at this and go, yeah, you 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: still gave up way too many yards to a team 72 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: that you should have closed out in the first half. Yeah, 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean that that was disappointing for sure, especially when 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: you I mean they couldn't throw the ball with much 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: success their backup quarterback in you knew that their best 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: chance of success was going to be that running game, 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: So to get gash like that for a couple series. 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: To your point, it was only a few plays that 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: really skewed those numbers. But in this case, that was 80 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: enough for the Giants to win the game. So it 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: was a problem. It's not one I think over the 82 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: years we've seen this team when they have bad games 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: or run defense, that's a pretty easy thing for them 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: to fix, and I think they will so. Overall, minus 85 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: those two drives, I feel really good about what we've 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: seen out the defense as it's you know, going back 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: to what the second half of that Rams game. It's 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: been a few weeks now getting better. So look that 89 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: that was a big factor in them losing. So you 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: can't just totally dismiss it, but it was a little 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: different than if they had just gotten beat up all 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: game long. Well, and if you look at the numbers 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: in the last four weeks, that defense is less than 94 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: twenty points a game. So you got to kind of 95 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: put things into perspective as to when they started to 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: turn the corner and win healthy and when they started 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: playing like a more cohesive unit. Now on the other 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: side of this, John, when you talk about meeting the 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: offense to get back on track, here's the umber that 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: stands out to me even more than the turnovers, which 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to say that it's uncharacteristic if you're just 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: looking at this season, because the Seahawks have turned the 103 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: ball over way too many times. Their turnover differential is 104 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: only plus one. They have not had a season where 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: they finished with less than plus seven in the Russell 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Wilson era, right, So they are off the mark when 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: it comes to turnovers, but they're also off the mark 108 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to explosive plays, what happened to that? 109 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I know that defenses are adjusting, but for all that 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: we saw Russell Wilson doing, for all of the options 111 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: that everybody talked about in the first few weeks of 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: the season, what has happened to those explosive plays. Yeah, 113 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I do think a big part 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: of it is what defenses are doing. And now the 115 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: counter to that's going to be how did the Seahawks adjust? 116 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: And even if you're not getting as men the huge 117 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: explosive plays, is getting some of those plays underneath that 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: you can turn into explo if guys can make guys miss, 119 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: catch and run all that stuff. And I think also, 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, Chris Carson's back, but he hasn't quite been 121 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: all the way back yet. And when you get him 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: really going and get that run game and being that 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: much more of a threat, I think that can open 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: some of that up as well too, because if you 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: are a pretty one dimensional team, no matter how good 126 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: your passing game is, teams are going to start trying 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: to take that away more. If all of a sudden, 128 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Chris Carson's back to looking like the player he was 129 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: last year year before. When he's getting a thousand yards season, 130 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: then I think you're gonna get some of those more 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: favorable matchups in the secondary. Do you like how I 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: put you on the hot seat? I like how you 133 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: essentially evaded my question. Yeah, I try, you know, tap 134 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: dancer around it. I thought, I answered it. Okay, what 135 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: do you I mean. I'm not the offensive coordinator. I'm 136 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: not in those meetings. I can't tell you everything they're seeing. 137 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: But then you can get better, You're right, I mean, 138 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: well it does. And so here's the thing. I'm looking 139 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: at the numbers right here, just to put everything into context. 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: There were twenty two passing plays of twenty five or 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: more yards in the first half of the season, just 142 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: five in the last four games. And they are coming 143 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: off of back to back games where they have had 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: season lows of four point eight and four point seven 145 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: yards per play. So I guess we talked about the 146 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: balance and needing Chris Carson in there, and suddenly I'm 147 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: hearing all the people who wanted to let Russ cook 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. They've kind of flipped 149 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: things around a little bit, and now there's a lot 150 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: of consternation, and to me, I guess I'm just looking 151 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: for somebody John to agree with me that it's frustrating 152 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: that people want to flip flop at this point in 153 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: the season. And I'm not talking about the offensive coordinator. 154 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the players. I'm talking about the 155 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: outside voices right like, Oh, now you've come around to 156 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: the fact that maybe you do need to have all 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: facets of your game working. Yeah, no, I'm with you. 158 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: And this is what Pete Carroll talks about. We've brought 159 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: this up before, but when he talks about balance, it's 160 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: really important to understand what that means. And it's not hey, 161 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: we need to run the ball twenty five thirty times 162 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and throw the ball thirty five times. There's no number 163 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: in mind going into the game of we need x 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: number of runs the next number passes. It's you want 165 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: to have both at your disposal and both be credible threats. 166 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: And defense has to deal with to make you harder 167 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: to defend and to make you able to adjust to 168 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: what a team's doing or if the conditions are bad 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: or anything else. And that's where I think if we 170 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: start to see them get back to Chris Carson, run, 171 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: and like I mean, he ran really well last week. 172 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: They just he wasn't quite ready to take on the 173 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: full load and when he is, and teams really have 174 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: to concern themselves with that. I do think there's going 175 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: to be more opportunities in the passing game. I will 176 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: say though, this team has shown in times they can 177 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: throw the ball successfully and move the ball even if 178 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: teams are taking those chunk players away. That Arizona game 179 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago they won. There weren't a lot 180 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: of explosives in that pass the game, but Russell Wis 181 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: was really efficient. They did a good job working some 182 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: of the quick underneath stuff. So maybe that's the adjustment 183 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: we'll see going forward. I don't know, but they got 184 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: to get something going because you can't keep scoring twelve 185 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: points a game. Speaking of going forward and looking ahead, 186 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: it is an opportunity to get back on track this 187 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: week against the Jets, And of course Pete Carroll wouldn't 188 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: approach it any differently than any other game during the season. 189 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: This is the next game, and all of the you know, 190 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: the storylines that you could pick out of it don't 191 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: have anything to do with how we want to prepare 192 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: and how we want to focus, and so there's a 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: real discipline that it takes week in and week out 194 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: in conference, out of conference, in division and all that 195 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: stuff that happens, records and all of that. So we're 196 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is a good illustration for us as 197 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: it is every week to come right back to focus 198 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: and do things in the routines that we need to 199 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: do to play good football well. And so when you 200 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: think about this, I do think Sunday's game is so 201 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: much more about what the Seahawks can do, should do, 202 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: will end up doing, as opposed to looking at the Jets, 203 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: who are oh and twelve they are right now. I mean, 204 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: it's not even an opportunity. They're looking at a winless 205 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: season potentially, and they would join the two thousand and 206 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: eight Lions in the two thousand and seventeen Browns as 207 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the only teams to do that. There is so much 208 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: that is not going right for the Jets right now. John, 209 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: How does that change the way we look at this 210 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: matchup and even talk about the matchups? I mean, in 211 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's ideal world, it doesn't. And that's a bit 212 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: what he talks about with you know, every week being 213 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: championship week. You don't want your team overhyped when they're 214 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: playing a game for the division championship in week seventeen. 215 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: And you don't want your team overlooking an opponent and thinking, oh, 216 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: we got a week against a pretty good Raiders team. 217 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Even you know, a winless, pretty bad team in the 218 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: NFL is good enough on any given Sunday that to 219 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: sneak one out. So you know, look, obviously the Seahawks 220 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: are the better team. They are better pretty much across 221 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: the board and should take care of business. And maybe 222 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: this is a good game for the offense to kind 223 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: of get right, so to speak. But back to Pete 224 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Carroll's win, you can't just go into this one thinking, oh, 225 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: we got this a Jets star and twelve and this 226 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: should be easy, because the second you start doing that, 227 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: it gets dicey in a hurry. Well, and they were 228 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: almost winners against the Raiders, as you pointed out, had 229 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: it not been for a very curious and really odd 230 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: blitz called by Greg Williams, they would be talking about 231 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: just a different by the New York altogether. Yeah, I mean, 232 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: who knows how they would come into this game. It 233 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: will the interesting to see how they come out on 234 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Sunday because they would have loved to get that win. 235 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't care how bad this season's going, and if 236 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: it feels like a last season, nobody wants to join 237 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: that list you read of oh and sixteen teams. So 238 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: those players are playing with still a lot of pride 239 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: and want to get that first win. And had they 240 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: pulled that out, you might have a team coming in 241 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: with more confidence. But they might also just be coming 242 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: in really angry and that might be feeling them. So again, 243 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: you can't sleep on anybody. But yeah, that was That 244 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: was a pretty brutal way. They lost well, and Greg 245 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Williams was relieved of his duties the next day. Frank 246 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: Bush takes over as the defensive coordinator. Of course, Greg 247 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: Williams made headlines earlier in the season when he talked 248 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: about Jamal Adams. Jamal of course the seahawks big offseason acquisition. 249 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: According to the headlines in New York, Jets don't miss Jamal, 250 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: which I find hard to believe, especially Carol knows what 251 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: he's brought to the Seahawks defense. We were so excited 252 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: about the chance to get a player of this magnitude 253 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: and and you know, we we had done our homework 254 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: about about Jamal, just trying to learn who he was 255 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: as best we can. As you said, you know, you 256 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: don't know him till you get the guy here. Really. 257 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: But after all of that being said that he's been 258 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: just a great team guy and he's worked so hard. 259 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: He cares so much about our team and about his 260 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: relationships in the in the players that he plays with, 261 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: that he's been he's been perfect in all ways. And 262 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: so you know, there's nothing there's nothing I don't like 263 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: about guys that have a high energy and high intensity 264 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: and in a jacked up and take great pride in 265 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: to work and you know he does all that. So 266 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: he'd been a great addition for us. Yeah, I mean 267 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: we've seen it since training camp. Look, we all knew 268 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: what Jamal Adams was in terms of you can watch 269 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: the film, you can look at the accolades and numbers. 270 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: He's a great player, but in training camp it became 271 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: evident that he brings a different energy and just something 272 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: special to the defense and the team. And that's what 273 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's talking about that they love so much. You 274 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: just never know exactly what you're getting. You can do 275 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: all your research, your scouts know the guy. You probably 276 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: looked at him in the draft, all that stuff, but 277 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: until he's around you every day, you just don't know 278 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: exactly what you're getting. And they've loved what he's brought. 279 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: And he's just such a fun, exciting player. You see. 280 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: It's contagious on the team. So yeah, I mean it's 281 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: I get. Look, the Jets are gonna say what they 282 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: need to say because you want to look like you're 283 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: you're happy with what you have and what you got 284 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: for that trade. But the Seahawks sure love what they got. Well, 285 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: I just think it's laughable that beat writers or that 286 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: folks in New York want to characterize him as having 287 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: a down year when he has seven and a half 288 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: sacks that leads the Seahawks, that also leads all dbs 289 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: right in eight games. But here's the thing they really 290 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: are picking on him for. It's the no interceptions, right, 291 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: So he's seving it down here in that regard. He 292 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: has two interceptions in his entire career, right, It's not 293 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: like he's doing something so different than what he's done before. 294 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I just think that it's laughable. I get how an 295 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: organization wants to make it look like they came out ahead. 296 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: But then when you have kind of people on the periphery, 297 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: it's like, come on, folks, really, that's just me. The 298 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: New York media is a different animal. We know that 299 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: that is true, that is very very true. Well, we 300 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: know that Jamal Adams is going to be a huge 301 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: part of that game plan. That's going to be one 302 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: of the biggest storylines. And truly, the Seahawks do need 303 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: to be better at takeaways because John It is interesting 304 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: for as much as that pass rush has come on 305 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: in the last few weeks, the thing the Seahawks have 306 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: been missing our interceptions. We've got quadri Digs who leads 307 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the team, but there is an opportunity to get better 308 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: in that category, oh for sure. And it's really weird. 309 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at early in the season, when 310 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: this team was not rushing the passer very well, was 311 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: giving up big numbers. They were actually still getting a 312 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: decent amount of turnovers. And they're turning the ball over 313 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: getting fewer turnovers with a good pass rush, which is 314 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: just strange because usually pass rush is one of the 315 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: best indicators of turnovers because you forced quarterbacks into bad decisions. Look, 316 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I think if they keep playing defense the way they are, 317 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: the terms are going to come. Well, we've seen some 318 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: some near picks. We've seen enough hits on the quarterback 319 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: the ball might start coming out. So, yeah, I'd love 320 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: to see him get the ball more often. But I 321 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: still feel a lot better about this defense, even with 322 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: a fewer turnovers and everything else they're doing of late. Yeah, 323 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: twenty four sacks in the last six games, fourteen sacks 324 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: in the last four or those are numbers that you've 325 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: got to like. Here's another storyline that probably gets overlooked 326 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: on Sunday, but is certainly significant to Pete Carroll himself 327 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: because it was the Jets years ago who gave him 328 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: his first opportunity to be an NFL head coach. I've 329 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: learned a lot and and I'm a lot different than 330 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: I was then because of what I've learned. You know. 331 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: It was a kind of a surprise experience. Got you know, 332 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: put in position to take that thing over and uh, 333 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: and then just didn't get much time to work, you know, 334 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: and to really put it into shape. But you know, 335 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I did learn a lot. You know, I learned a 336 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: lot about dealing with the people that are in ownership 337 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: and people that run the clubs and opinions and stuff 338 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: like that. You know that you got to work with 339 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: work with your people. I was kind of a little 340 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: bit of a maverick and at the time, I think 341 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: the way I went about it, you know, I really 342 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: wasn't worried about making friends and with owners and stuff like. 343 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I just was coaching, and uh I needed 344 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: to work at it more, be a little bit more 345 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: politically correct. I was kind of politically not correct at 346 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: the time. And it was fun. It was a nice try. 347 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: This ended too fast. It was a nice try. I 348 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: love that. I love him. Pete goes down in memory 349 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: lane with the I mean, that's one of the cool 350 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: things about having a coach who's been a lot of 351 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: places and has a good history is seemingly every week 352 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: there can be a fun connection. But especially with these 353 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: his former coaching gigs, it's fun to hear just how 354 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: much has changed for him. I mean, he was a 355 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: pretty young coach back then and inexperience and to his point, 356 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: he you know, he didn't necessarily know all the intricacies 357 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: of what it means to be a head coach when 358 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: it comes to deal with ownership and all that. So 359 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: obviously tim work got too well for him there, but 360 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: he's he bounced back pretty well and has had himself 361 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: a hell of a career. You know, I do remember 362 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: a story that he told last year about how he 363 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: didn't recognize who was in the room and he started 364 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: talking about how the team was going to do one thing, 365 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: but ownership and management had already said they were going 366 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: to do another thing. And Pete's kind of takeaway was, well, 367 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: you better know your audience. I needed to know my 368 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: audience better, and ain't glad. Yeah that's that's Pete. Yep. Yeah, Um, Well, 369 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: when we talk about coaching, of course, Pete Carroll has 370 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: had a huge impact on the league, on this team, 371 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: on the city. But we deserve, or we should, excuse me, 372 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: give Larry is of the shout out that he deserves 373 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: for special teams because I don't think they're flying under 374 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: the radar anymore. They are definitely among the best units 375 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, first off, Larry has done a 376 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: marvelous job. I mean just just a first class job 377 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: and jumped right out he had been a team's coach before, 378 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, in Houston and all that. It wasn't brand 379 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: new to him, but still there's a transition there. Shoot, man, 380 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: he's done a fantastic job. Brian's back with us now 381 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: and he's working with with Is and he's helping him, 382 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, along the way, which has been really beneficial 383 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: and we're glad to have him back. Um, but I 384 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: can't say enough about what what Larry has done to, 385 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, maintain level of play and then even go 386 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: beyond and give us this kind of week to week 387 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: consistency that's really separated our guys. And just a reminder 388 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: of that Cairo Radio, he was your home for the 389 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and your source for local news. Listen to 390 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: every Seahawks game live on ninety seven point three FM 391 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: and ketchup on the news every weekday on the Cairo 392 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: Radio app. You're probably not gonna hear Larry Izzo's name 393 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: or Brian Schneider's name in those broadcasts very often. But 394 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I do think it's cool that that unit is doing 395 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: so well. I think it's cool that Larry Izzo's getting 396 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: that chance or got that chance because he is a 397 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: stud among all time special teams players. Those guys look 398 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: up to him because all they have to do is 399 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: look at the tackles that he made during the course 400 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: of his career and the career that he has. He 401 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. Or listen, he asked Bill 402 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Belichick about Larry He was one of his favorite players. 403 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: And when you get you know, arguably the greatest coach 404 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: of all time Raven about you as a special teamer, 405 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: that's a lot of deserve spec he has. And yeah, 406 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: for him, I mean, he's been here obviously, and he's 407 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: been a coach, and he knows what's going on. But 408 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: to find out right before the start of the season 409 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: you're stepping into that role, is taking over the whole 410 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: job with Brian Schner having to step away for a 411 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: little bit. He's I mean, that unit has just been 412 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: awesome all year. You know, we talk about the offense 413 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: struggle a little bit now and being great early, the 414 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: defense picking them up. But the one consistently good part 415 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: of this team all year has been special teams. And 416 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: it sometimes can fly under the radar because it's not 417 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: as big a part of the game and the minds 418 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: of most fans, but it's really important and they've been 419 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: really good at it. They certainly have, and you know, 420 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: I think We've been pretty good, John at identifying what 421 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: needs to happen for Seahawks wins throughout the course of 422 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: the year. I'm not sure that it's always happened, but 423 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: I do think we correctly identify what needs to happen. 424 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put you on the hot seat one 425 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: more time. Give me the two things that need to 426 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: happen for a Seahawks win on Sunday. Well, last week 427 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I talked about Seahawks not turning the ball over and 428 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: they didn't listen. So sorry, I tried, But I'll take 429 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: the other side of that. I want to see the 430 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: as we just talked about, let's get the defense goal, 431 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: let's get two or more takeaways and really just do 432 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: what they should do and take control of the game 433 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: and not stress fans out too much. Going to the 434 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: other side of the ball, we talked about Chris Carson. 435 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: I want to see him get going and you know, 436 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: assuming his health as improving as Pete Carroll said, let's 437 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: see him get fifteen to twenty overall touches and see 438 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: what that can do for the offense. Okay, so you 439 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of took mine. I'm going to add on to that. 440 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I want to see four explosive plays 441 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: during the course of the game. I don't care if 442 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: it's a Chris Carson, you know, breaking out for a 443 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: forty or fifty yard run, or if it's a couple 444 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: of deep passes to DK or to Tyler, but I 445 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: would like to see four explosive plays during the course 446 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: of this one. I was going to hit on the takeaways, 447 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: but since you already got to that one, how about 448 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: keep Sam Darnold out of the end zone works for me. 449 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: The Jets to field goals if they need to score 450 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: any points at all, and I think that that will 451 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: lead to a Seahawks win. Sounds good to me. And 452 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: we will be back with you next week to revisit 453 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: what happened in the game, see if the Seahawks listen 454 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: to us and see where things fall following their game 455 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Jets. We'll see you next time.