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Speaker 1: it was this, I ask Will Smith. It says here,
Speaker 1: it says here that your name is Will Smith. It
Speaker 1: says here that is your legal name, and it says
Speaker 1: that you feel like you're becoming a caricature of yourself.
Speaker 3: Yes, I really do feel like I am.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about that.
Speaker 3: It's so my whole life. Like I didn't start out
Speaker 3: as Will Smith. Like my family kind of raised me
Speaker 3: his Billity. That's what I'm still called at home. And
Speaker 3: then like sometime in like first second grade, one of
Speaker 3: my teachers going to call me Will Smith, and it
Speaker 3: kind of just stuck. My whole life. I've been Will
Speaker 3: Smith just like because it's funny. You know, I have
Speaker 3: the same name as the actor. And as my life
Speaker 3: has progressed, people have just like come to know me
Speaker 3: as Will Smith. And it's kind of been like a
Speaker 3: easy slot for like getting into things or talking to
Speaker 3: people and all, like it's made so very easy. It's
Speaker 3: always a good ice breaker. But I'm I'm a bit
Speaker 3: of a character. I just I don't know, I'm a
Speaker 3: weird fucking guy. Curse is that?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: What am I allowed to curse?
Speaker 1: I know it is not my podcast. M Why do
Speaker 1: you feel like you're a weird guy? No?
Speaker 3: No, I've never had to take things too seriously or
Speaker 3: I've never felt the need to anyway. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: I'm just like my life in general, I just think
Speaker 3: it's more important to like have fun while doing the
Speaker 3: things that are important. So it kind of led to
Speaker 3: me just kind of having this weird philosophy of getting
Speaker 3: things done however I need to no matter how strange
Speaker 3: it may seem. And you know, I like just say
Speaker 3: funny things, do funny things. I'm known on my campus
Speaker 3: as also the rollers guy, and it's kind of just
Speaker 3: like become a second persona along with that because I'm
Speaker 3: always wearing them.
Speaker 1: So tell me more about like why why this? I mean,
Speaker 1: why does this seem like a negative thing for you?
Speaker 3: It's become like an especially negative thing in like the
Speaker 3: last few years because it's just like it's just like
Speaker 3: it sounds really stupid. It's really annoying when people come
Speaker 3: up to you and ask about the slap eight times
Speaker 3: a day that happened at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of, Uh that as soon as that happened
Speaker 1: and will Smith started trending, you must have been shaken
Speaker 1: in your boats, Like, fuck, this is gonna be everything
Speaker 1: everyone says to me for the next five years.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it has continued to be. It was the
Speaker 3: it was the weirdest thing because, like, you know, the day,
Speaker 3: the two days following that stupid thing, like every person
Speaker 3: I've ever known has like texted me about that because
Speaker 3: they thought it was Hi. And as time went on,
Speaker 3: random people that I haven't spoken to in years, you know,
Speaker 3: from high schools, like old friends, the text me like
Speaker 3: three months later and say so, how about that flat
Speaker 3: And it is just kind of persistent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's.
Speaker 3: Just like a strange thing that I've endured, I guess,
Speaker 3: And it's uh, it's kind of weird dealing with this
Speaker 3: thing that has like become part of my identity even
Speaker 3: though I don't want it to be.
Speaker 4: M hm hmm.
Speaker 1: What would you like your identity to be? Uh?
Speaker 3: Just Will, I guess. And I've like in the last
Speaker 3: few months, like coming back to school, you know, for
Speaker 3: like the new school year and stuff. Not that I
Speaker 3: ever like, I mean, I did introduce myself with Will
Speaker 3: Smith quite a bit back in the day, but like
Speaker 3: now I'm kind of just trying to be Will. But
Speaker 3: the name persists because all it takes is a professor
Speaker 3: reading my name on the thing on the agenda, I guess,
Speaker 3: to connect the dots, and that's what everyone knows me
Speaker 3: as already.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. Okay, what's your life like outside
Speaker 1: of being Will Smith?
Speaker 3: Uh, it's honestly very good. I think that I live
Speaker 3: a very good life, and it's just like because I've
Speaker 3: tried my best to make it good. You know, lots
Speaker 3: of friends and you know, good environment. Nick, who you
Speaker 3: just spoke to, one of my best friends here at school. Ah,
Speaker 3: it's funny. We're not We're like on other ends of
Speaker 3: campus right now, mhm. But everywhere I go it's always
Speaker 3: been Will Smith, Will Smith, Will Smith, and.
Speaker 1: It's always like like, no, I want to let you
Speaker 1: finish real quick.
Speaker 3: It's it's like a lot of people seem to don't
Speaker 3: actually care what I'm like. They just think it's funny
Speaker 3: that I'm Will Smith, and that is really like started
Speaker 3: to affect me in the last year or two.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What do you wish people know about you?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like I just think that, like, like the things I
Speaker 3: do on a daily basis don't need to be sort
Speaker 3: of put under this category of being a character because
Speaker 3: I have a funny name, you know, if that makes
Speaker 3: any sense at all.
Speaker 1: So you're you're starting to feel like a one dimensional
Speaker 1: being and not like an actual person.
Speaker 3: Yes, Like I guess, I guess like this is a
Speaker 3: pretty good instance of it. Like I'll go over to
Speaker 3: my little friend's door him and then like all of
Speaker 3: her roommates will start like yelling Will Smith. And if
Speaker 3: they have people over, they go, oh my god, that's
Speaker 3: Will Smith. And they don't really care who I am.
Speaker 3: They just care about the name.
Speaker 1: M What do you wish people saw within you?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Just Will be the person that wants
Speaker 3: to talk to everybody, have a conversation with everybody, gets
Speaker 3: to know somebody. I think it's important. It's just like
Speaker 3: on a daily basis, just be that person that will
Speaker 3: go up to somebody and start a conversation. Just be
Speaker 3: there for somebody. And I am. I feel like I
Speaker 3: am that to a lot of people. But it has
Speaker 3: gotten to a point where a lot of people just
Speaker 3: don't care about my personal attributes.
Speaker 5: I feel like.
Speaker 1: You said, used to go by Billy, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: I haven't in probably fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Would you consider changing your name.
Speaker 4: To Billy anything.
Speaker 5: Or just in general?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wouldn't start going by Billy again just
Speaker 3: because my friend group back home, you know, my best friends,
Speaker 3: we already have a Billy in the group. But uh,
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about once I graduate and head
Speaker 3: out on my own, to change my last name to
Speaker 3: my h name on my mother's side, Romeo, in honor
Speaker 3: of like my grandfather, because he was one of the
Speaker 3: most important people in my life.
Speaker 1: Will Romeo, what do you.
Speaker 3: Think of that?
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I think it's fun, it's good of my string to it,
Speaker 3: but like genuinely more important to me. It's just like
Speaker 3: keeping that name going. I'm the only boy in my family.
Speaker 3: I have three older sisters and the only other Romeos
Speaker 3: that a guy are, you know, fifteen hours away down south?
Speaker 1: Do you identify more with Romeo than with Smith?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: I am. I very much associate with the name Smith
Speaker 3: because both sides of my family have stuck around back home.
Speaker 3: I have a very large family that I love very much,
Speaker 3: and they're all very supportive. So it's not like it's
Speaker 3: not like I'm changing my name just from the kind
Speaker 3: of like side with one side of the family. I
Speaker 3: do love the Smith's side of my family very much.
Speaker 1: I have to ask you something. It says here that
Speaker 1: you were in the queue the other day but you
Speaker 1: had to hang up because there was an active shooter
Speaker 1: in your dorm.
Speaker 3: No, okay, so there was a there was a email
Speaker 3: that went out our school was veried ineffective at relaying
Speaker 3: information to us. So we had heard like like people
Speaker 3: were just like texting rumblings about a threat in one
Speaker 3: of the complexes. I was not there. I was in
Speaker 3: the studio, which I am right now actually doing some
Speaker 3: artwork a monitor tonight. But these schools sent out an
Speaker 3: email about a potential threat. So I hung up the
Speaker 3: phone so I could figure out what the heck was
Speaker 3: going on and like do something about it if I
Speaker 3: needed to.
Speaker 1: So that was a funny way. I'm glad you're all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the threat was apparently taking care of like immediately,
Speaker 3: but the school had no proper life precautions in place.
Speaker 3: I guess, like, well, apparently we had cops on campus
Speaker 3: with Bryant shields, and the only information we had was
Speaker 3: a very poorly worded femail address to each student about
Speaker 3: a police investigation. So it was almost appearing as if
Speaker 3: we were under investigation.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know, you know what would have
Speaker 1: made you a legend? What is if there was an
Speaker 1: active shooter and you went up to him and slapped him.
Speaker 3: That's actually pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Will any final thoughts, feelings, sentiments on your
Speaker 1: name being Will Smith that that you that you want
Speaker 1: to share with us.
Speaker 3: Most of my life it was, it was a strange blessing.
Speaker 3: And then just as I've gotten older, it's just not
Speaker 3: the person I want to be anymore. And I just
Speaker 3: think that like it's important as like I'm twenty, it's
Speaker 3: important as I kind of it's just twenty in my life,
Speaker 3: where like I'm getting ready to graduate and hopefully move
Speaker 3: out on my own. But I'm the person I want
Speaker 3: to be, and then I have the opportunity to start
Speaker 3: fresh if I need to. I think that everybody should
Speaker 3: have that.
Speaker 1: Well, Well, thank you very much for calling and sharing,
Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoy your new life, as will Romeo.
Speaker 3: Thank you, mister Ghek.
Speaker 4: Take care man, have a good night.
Speaker 1: Take care. Hello. Hello, Hi, who is this?
Speaker 4: This is Robert Johnson.
Speaker 1: Hi, Robert Johnson. What's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Well, so I have a bit of a revenge story
Speaker 4: to tell, and I'm not too sure if I should
Speaker 4: feel guilty about what I gave it if I took
Speaker 4: it too far. Not okay, it's nothing like Super Dark
Speaker 4: or anything. I didn't. I didn't do anything too crazy. Well,
Speaker 4: I guess chat will decide that.
Speaker 1: Well, no, but well, you know that's up. You know,
Speaker 1: only God can judge. I think I don't know what's up?
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 4: Tell us?
Speaker 1: Tell us what happens.
Speaker 4: Well, so a bit of a backstory and I'll try
Speaker 4: not to make it too depressing or anything, you know.
Speaker 4: During during lockdown in twenty twenty, I got myself a
Speaker 4: German Shepherd puppy to help with the depression I was
Speaker 4: going through and everything. Yeah, and I wasn't aware that
Speaker 4: she had a tarvo. It's a it's a really aggressive,
Speaker 4: deadly disease towards dogs. We only got to have her
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks before I had to unfortunately
Speaker 4: put her down. But you know, that sucks, but at
Speaker 4: least I gave her the best couple of weeks I
Speaker 4: possibly could have given her. Sure, Sure, So after I
Speaker 4: put her down, I came back home to the apartment
Speaker 4: I was sharing with one of my friends. He's not
Speaker 4: my friend anymore, that's for sure, but he had went
Speaker 4: into my room. He took some stuff out of there,
Speaker 4: and I confronted him about it. We got into a
Speaker 4: bit of a tussle and he decided to call the
Speaker 4: cops on me, and he told the police that I
Speaker 4: pointed a gun at him, that I had wed in
Speaker 4: the basement. Well, I never did that. If I did,
Speaker 4: i'd absolutely be locked up right now. But the apartment complex,
Speaker 4: after everything got situated, they decided that they were going
Speaker 4: to kick me out of the apartment, even after the
Speaker 4: whole police report and everything went through. Because the other
Speaker 4: guy lived there longer, they decided that I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to be the one that got to stay. And you know,
Speaker 4: that's fair enough. He was there like a year before me,
Speaker 4: So I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But the dog does the dog? Is that have anything
Speaker 1: to do with this roommate situation?
Speaker 4: Kind of? Sort of? It was just he was being
Speaker 4: a real dick, like he knew where I was. He
Speaker 4: he knew I was on edge because I just lost
Speaker 4: the I just spent a lot of money on the dog,
Speaker 4: and then I had about one thousand dollars worth of
Speaker 4: VET bills that I had to pay and I, you know,
Speaker 4: dog just died, and so he knew he knew all
Speaker 4: that was going on. I'm not too sure what, Oh,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 1: All right? So what I I guess I still don't
Speaker 1: understand what exactly you guys were fighting about he took
Speaker 1: stuff from your room and you confronted.
Speaker 4: Him about it. So he when I was gone that night,
Speaker 4: he went into my room and he took he took
Speaker 4: one of my Xbox controllers and one of my chairs,
Speaker 4: and I just went up to and I was like, hey, man, like,
Speaker 4: don't go into my room. You know, I was. I
Speaker 4: was much more angry than what I'm letting on right now. Again,
Speaker 4: I was on I was on edge, and so confronted
Speaker 4: him and I pushed him, and he was like, I'm
Speaker 4: calling the police on you. And so that's uh, it
Speaker 4: was me and him getting into a bit of a
Speaker 4: physical altercation after everything happened. That he was just that
Speaker 4: that's just kind of how everything went down after I
Speaker 4: got home. And to be fair, I wasn't in the
Speaker 4: best date of mine. I absolutely could have handled it
Speaker 4: better if I needed to. But uh, after they told
Speaker 4: me that I was going to have to move out,
Speaker 4: they were like, so, since you're the one moving out,
Speaker 4: we're going to give you a couple of days. They
Speaker 4: asked the roommate if he could leave for a couple
Speaker 4: of days, go spend h spend some time at a
Speaker 4: friend's house, just so I could pack everything up, you know,
Speaker 4: get out of there, like I need to. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: uh so I guess the real important part, the next part,
Speaker 4: the reason I did what I did. Afterwards, So when
Speaker 4: he called the police on me, this was probably two
Speaker 4: or three days after the whole George Floyd incident. So
Speaker 4: I had been seeing everything that was happening on the news.
Speaker 4: You know. This was like one am at night, like
Speaker 4: I had just gotten home driving back from that and
Speaker 4: all that. And so when he tells him that I
Speaker 4: was plenty a gun at him, I had four officers,
Speaker 4: you know, coming to my apartment, you know, guns pointed
Speaker 4: at me. I was like, you know, I thought I
Speaker 4: was gonna die. And that was a real I thought
Speaker 4: I thought I was dead, you know. I my life
Speaker 4: really flashed before my eyes when all of that happened. Okay,
Speaker 4: And so after everything got situated, you know, the police
Speaker 4: were like, well, this was clearly a bullshit call. We
Speaker 4: got for some for no reason. This was very much
Speaker 4: a waste of time. And so I decided, you know,
Speaker 4: I did. I decided I was gonna I couldn't, you know,
Speaker 4: destroy his property. I wasn't gonna break any type of
Speaker 4: laws or anything like that. I'm not going to go
Speaker 4: out slashing tires or anything like that. But what I
Speaker 4: did end up doing is over the course of two days,
Speaker 4: I used a Jada Stevens, anal masturbator, and I collected
Speaker 4: all of the lube and come from it over the
Speaker 4: course of two days. And I preceded it to smear everything.
Speaker 4: I poured it into his Xbox vent. He had like
Speaker 4: a four hundred dollars night set. I sneered it all
Speaker 4: over there on his towels, everything that that asshole owned.
Speaker 4: I made sure that it had just come in lube everywhere.
Speaker 4: I made sure there are a couple of cubes in there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I and no one else knows about this
Speaker 4: except for the gap anyone that's hearing it right now.
Speaker 4: This is the first time I've ever come out to
Speaker 4: say anything about it. And you know, I feel like
Speaker 4: I was justified in what I did, because you don't
Speaker 4: just tell the cops. This guy pointed a guy at
Speaker 4: me without the intense of trying to get that person shot.
Speaker 4: You know, you don't just lie about something like that,
Speaker 4: you know, I felt like he really genuinely put my
Speaker 4: life at risk, and so I decided I just everything
Speaker 4: he owned everything. I did it as much as over
Speaker 4: the course of two days. And I guess, really what
Speaker 4: I'm am I piece of shit for doing that? Or
Speaker 4: was it you know, kind of deserved for doing that
Speaker 4: for someone?
Speaker 1: Okay, how did he respond? Because I he eventually how
Speaker 1: does he know?
Speaker 4: Ol on?
Speaker 1: Okay, did you just do this?
Speaker 4: No? This was this was in two thousand and twenty,
Speaker 4: this was this is quite this was like three years
Speaker 4: you know, this was?
Speaker 1: So how does he not know? Wouldn't he if you
Speaker 1: spread come on everything he owns? How would he not
Speaker 1: realize it?
Speaker 4: Well, I presume he wouldn't just go around sniffing his
Speaker 4: nice checking for a cumbsmell. I mean, I know, I
Speaker 4: certainly don't go around my apartment making sure people aren't
Speaker 4: coming on things. I guess I never really thought about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you came in the event of his xbox?
Speaker 1: You came? Did you come on his clothes?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: What all? Did you come on?
Speaker 4: I didn't go into his room, but we had a
Speaker 4: laundry unit in the hallway, and I just got anything
Speaker 4: that was in there. I just kind of drizzled it
Speaker 4: over like it was chocolate syrup over ice cream. Again,
Speaker 4: I collected over the course of two days. Like I
Speaker 4: put it into this little bowl, but I just kind
Speaker 4: of let sit there. And I know that sounds that's
Speaker 4: absolutely discussing. It sounds horrible.
Speaker 1: How much coum did you put it? Because it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to I mean, that's like a lot of.
Speaker 4: Coun Well, so it wasn't all just come you got.
Speaker 4: I I was using the lube for the masturbader, so
Speaker 4: I would ring it out and collect the lube and come.
Speaker 4: So I was probably I think I jerked off probably
Speaker 4: three or four times over each day over the course
Speaker 4: of the two days, to make sure I had enough
Speaker 4: to do what I wanted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you kind of diluted a little bit of
Speaker 1: the come with the loop to make it like a loob.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a horse. I'm not I'm not pumping
Speaker 4: out gallons at a time. I'm I'm no Johnny Sin
Speaker 4: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he really didn't notice at all.
Speaker 4: Well, so I had. As soon as I did that,
Speaker 4: I moved out like the next morning, and I just
Speaker 4: haven't had contacts with him. So if he maybe he
Speaker 4: does know, maybe not. I haven't seen the guy for
Speaker 4: almost two and a half years.
Speaker 1: Well, so let me can I ask you this then? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. If your intention in smearing come
Speaker 1: over everything that this guy owns is to see the
Speaker 1: look on his face when he realizes it, then what
Speaker 1: was the point If he never found out, And if
Speaker 1: he did find out, then that's probably to further antagonize you.
Speaker 4: It's like a guilty pleasure knowing I'm the only one
Speaker 4: that knows that I did it, you know, because if
Speaker 4: I were to tell him I did that, I don't
Speaker 4: know if there's legal repercussions connected to that. There might be,
Speaker 4: there might not. And I again, I was trying to
Speaker 4: make sure that I, you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: get you know, taken to court for you know, doing
Speaker 4: anything crazy like that.
Speaker 1: And so you don't know whether or not they're legal
Speaker 1: repercussions for jizzing on somebody's stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, if is there is there laws
Speaker 4: against that? Is there any laws that prevent me from
Speaker 4: doing that?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 4: Well that's news to me.
Speaker 1: I mean all right, if so, listen, listen, listen back
Speaker 1: to your central question. Am I am I the asshole
Speaker 1: for spreading cum?
Speaker 4: Yeah's? Am I a piece of shit? For what? I did.
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you a question in your
Speaker 1: heart ultimately, do you believe you're twenty two years old? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're somewhat of an adult. Okay, I like, Okay, you're an
Speaker 1: intelligent enough guy. I can tell in your heart of hearts, Robert,
Speaker 1: do you really believe that's the best way to handle
Speaker 1: conflict is to jiz on the other person's stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with a negative stark man, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say that is a probably not the way you want
Speaker 4: to handle things.
Speaker 1: It's probably not the way you want to handle things. Now,
Speaker 1: is there in your mind? If you could go back
Speaker 1: turn the clocks, how would you have handled that situation differently?
Speaker 4: I would hm, Oh, that's uh. You know, I'm really
Speaker 4: not too sure because a lot of a lot has
Speaker 4: happened then, and I know for a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: I wasn't in the state of mind. But if I
Speaker 4: wouldn't if I was, if I had the state of
Speaker 4: mind I have today, I probably feel a lot more
Speaker 4: guilty about it, but I probably still do it. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna lie. I feel a lot more guilt, but
Speaker 4: I would probably still do it.
Speaker 1: Why would you still do it? I mean look, it's
Speaker 1: three years ago, right, Like what why?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: Why does why does the anger continue to bubble within
Speaker 1: you and you know, spurred out.
Speaker 4: Of you because, oh god, you call me off guard
Speaker 4: with that one. You know, it really comes down just
Speaker 4: to the fact that, you know, I thought I was
Speaker 4: gonna die.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: That was a you know, four police officers pointing guns
Speaker 4: at you while you're crying, like the whole I was
Speaker 4: on the phone with the UH with the operator. I
Speaker 4: was calling him. I was like, hey, well, I am
Speaker 4: not a crazy person. I do not have a firearm.
Speaker 4: You know, I take that. I don't think that's not something.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would take that lightly, you know.
Speaker 4: And sure maybe he was just trying to ensure that
Speaker 4: the police would come or whatever. But just the way
Speaker 4: he said he has a gun, he pointed at me,
Speaker 4: and he has weed in the basement. It's it's it's malicious.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you don't just do that for no reason.
Speaker 1: He can I ask you a question, absolutely, did you
Speaker 1: pull out your penis and threatened to come on him
Speaker 1: and he interpreted that as a gun?
Speaker 4: No, my, my, my penis is far too small to
Speaker 4: be interpreted as a firearm.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to make sure, so listen. My
Speaker 1: my official stance on this is that I don't think
Speaker 1: that you coming on all this man's belongings is going
Speaker 1: to really do anything productive for the situation. I don't
Speaker 1: think any conflict resolution experts or real therapists would say otherwise.
Speaker 1: Because it makes you feel good, makes you feel good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean a that just sounds like it was
Speaker 1: a lot of work for nothing.
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was sor the second.
Speaker 1: Day rough, So I look at the end of the day. Revenge,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a poison that attacks the person who
Speaker 1: does the jizzy as well as the person who is
Speaker 1: just gone. Do you agree with this?
Speaker 4: I yeah, I agree everything you've said so far. The
Speaker 4: more you the more you talk, the more I look
Speaker 4: back and realize how bad it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I heard this story and I was a person
Speaker 1: that you were going to room with in the future,
Speaker 1: I would probably change my mind about rooming with you.
Speaker 4: But would you say it wasn't well? Was it not
Speaker 4: justified to retaliate after something like that?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 1: Retaliation it's an interesting thing. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: about this a lot. Actually, I really do well, that's
Speaker 1: all a lot of wars start. I think it's retaliation.
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, I don't know
Speaker 1: it's This is an interesting philosophical question being posed by
Speaker 1: you talking about whether or not it was a good
Speaker 1: decision to come on your roommate's xbox. Retaliation is interesting
Speaker 1: because I don't know to what degree it is helpful
Speaker 1: At a certain point. It really can only heighten conflict. Further,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really solve anything. It is a gut impulse
Speaker 1: that only serves the moment. It doesn't really do anything
Speaker 1: productive for any party. That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 4: But would you say I hurt anyone doing these actions?
Speaker 1: Well, you just told me that your penis was sore.
Speaker 4: Well, besides me, I knew what I knew what the
Speaker 4: cost of what I was about to do. It was
Speaker 4: a small price.
Speaker 1: To My official stance on this is going to be
Speaker 1: that I think you should find healthier coping mechanisms.
Speaker 4: Yep, I agree. I think you're a wise man. I agree.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me what you're gonna do next time something
Speaker 1: like this happens.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully it never happens again. Fortunately I live with
Speaker 4: some pretty cool dudes, right now. But if something were
Speaker 4: like that's ever happened again, hopefully I'd be mature enough
Speaker 4: to just grow up and be like, all right, whatever,
Speaker 4: I got the shit end of the stick. You know,
Speaker 4: I guess it could be worse. I guess I would
Speaker 4: just try to look at it in a more positive light.
Speaker 4: I guess, you know, just not try to obviously. You know,
Speaker 4: if something like that happens, it's gonna suck. It's gonna
Speaker 4: bother me. But you know, I'm a grown ass man
Speaker 4: at this point. I could probably if something like that
Speaker 4: were to happen now, I would definitely handle it different.
Speaker 4: You know, I was, I was twenty years old. I
Speaker 4: was depressed. I was day drinking. You know, that was
Speaker 4: just what you could do during lockdown. You know, I
Speaker 4: was definitely not in a right state of mind. But
Speaker 4: right now I would say absolutely I would handle it
Speaker 4: much differently.
Speaker 1: So anything you want to say to the people of
Speaker 1: the computer before we.
Speaker 4: Go, hopefully you guys don't think them too much of
Speaker 4: a freak, you're too much of a bad person. I
Speaker 4: hope this was interesting. I hope you guys have a
Speaker 4: good night. I appreciate you giving me the time to
Speaker 4: talk to.
Speaker 1: You you too, Robert tick care.
Speaker 4: You have a good one.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was almost a twenty minute call about jizzing
Speaker 1: on a roommate's xbox? Was Robert justified? Like what? Here's
Speaker 1: the thing? What has justification ever really done for anyone?
Speaker 1: Would he be justified in a court of law? Probably not?
Speaker 1: But also I don't know if there is a law
Speaker 1: that says that you can't jack off onto your roommate's xbox.
Speaker 1: But also they're almost certainly is. Let's take another phone call. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 7: I'm good?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Kaylee? It says your name is.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: How can I get you this evening? Kaylee?
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. Well, I just kind of wanted to
Speaker 7: tell a story, I guess, get your thoughts on it or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what what happens?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 7: A few years back I found out that I had
Speaker 7: a biological sister on my mom's side, half sister, and
Speaker 7: we had been kind of talking for a few years
Speaker 7: a little bit, and then I finally spent a weekend
Speaker 7: with her for Halloween to do something and it was
Speaker 7: just kind of like a really weird, bad experience, And
Speaker 7: I don't really know what kind of relationship I want
Speaker 7: or should have with her anymore.
Speaker 1: Okay, what made the experience so bad, Well, she when.
Speaker 7: We were talking is when she like initially hit me up,
Speaker 7: she was very obviously like excited to meet me, calling
Speaker 7: me on PRINSIPI and that has stayed away like trying
Speaker 7: to get very close very quickly, which was like pretty
Speaker 7: you know. I was like into that a little bit.
Speaker 7: But then when I went there, she just like.
Speaker 6: Didn't talk to me the whole time and was like
Speaker 6: on the phone with people, like calling people the whole
Speaker 6: time I was there, Like there was really not a
Speaker 6: word spoken between the two of us. And then also
Speaker 6: like she was kind of like I felt kind of
Speaker 6: like a show pony, like an accessory almost. She was
Speaker 6: showing me like off to everyone, like I was on
Speaker 6: like a tour of meeting every single person in her life.
Speaker 4: And she kept doing.
Speaker 7: This thing where she was introducing me as her sister
Speaker 7: and like she's just like me, but she's a stoner,
Speaker 7: which is like.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 7: I don't like being called that. I don't like people
Speaker 7: saying that about me to other people. I don't know,
Speaker 7: she's just a I didn't like that, and thing she
Speaker 7: just wasn't really present, so.
Speaker 1: She was on the phone all the time. She was
Speaker 1: like showing you around as like she's like me, but
Speaker 1: she's a stoner, weird vibe all around, and you are
Speaker 1: here debating whether or not you should have a relationship
Speaker 1: with her not.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't really necessarily want to cut her off.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 7: She's still like now that I'm not there, like she's
Speaker 7: still doing that thing, or she's just like texting me
Speaker 7: and being like wanting to see me and spend extended
Speaker 7: time with me, And I just like kind of want
Speaker 7: to let her know that I don't want to do that,
Speaker 7: but I don't really know how to say it. I
Speaker 7: guess like I want to do some of the time,
Speaker 7: I wanted to be like a plan. I guess I
Speaker 7: don't want to just like stay with her or do
Speaker 7: anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is hard. I don't have like the greatest
Speaker 1: solution of like how do you because I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: this person's your half sister, But to me, the familial
Speaker 1: aspect of this is is there relevant really? Because what
Speaker 1: does that really even dictates? Right? Absolutely?
Speaker 7: I didn't know twenty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, by the way, even if she was
Speaker 1: your blood sister, what does that really dictate what is that? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, she's your bud sister, but well, I
Speaker 1: guess to say, I guess what I meant to say
Speaker 1: is even if she was in your life? Blah blah,
Speaker 1: Like what really does dictate whether or not we should
Speaker 1: have relationships with people?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: I don't even like that word should, like good by,
Speaker 1: no please.
Speaker 7: It's just weird for me because I was kind of
Speaker 7: raised as an only child that I've never had a
Speaker 7: sibling before, and pretty much everyone I know has like
Speaker 7: close relationships excuse me, relationships with their siblings. So I
Speaker 7: just feel like it's something I want, you know, but
Speaker 7: it just doesn't feel great when I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I think the idea that you're being compelled by an
Speaker 1: illusion of what having a sister might be like or
Speaker 1: your friends' experiences with their siblings is not compelling to me.
Speaker 1: And with the limited amount of time that you have
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, in a day, in a week,
Speaker 1: and a month and a year and a life, you
Speaker 1: should really only be spending it with people who you
Speaker 1: give you give a fuck about who you want to
Speaker 1: be spending time with, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I care a lot about people, know, So it's like
Speaker 7: even if it's not someone important to me. I just
Speaker 7: care about their feelings a lot, And you know what.
Speaker 1: That's sweet of you. And I think to a point
Speaker 1: that's a good trait to have, and it becomes a
Speaker 1: bad trait to have. I think, you know, there's various
Speaker 1: opinions about this, but when it starts to like come
Speaker 1: at like a detriment to you, you know, like your
Speaker 1: time is limited, your time is valuable. You don't want
Speaker 1: to spend it with somebody who you don't fucking like
Speaker 1: being around.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like a waste of time?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And it's hard. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: whole weekend, and afterwards you do feel like it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think this was a waste of time, this
Speaker 1: initial meeting, because you satisfied a curiosity you had, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that a waste of time. M hm,
Speaker 1: that's true. But yeah, this is hard. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to like break how do you break up with
Speaker 1: a friend?
Speaker 4: You break up with like.
Speaker 7: It's weird because I didn't know her for twenty years,
Speaker 7: but she knew about me the entire time, and like
Speaker 7: would write these letters to me but not send them.
Speaker 7: But then like gave them all to me, like it
Speaker 7: was like she put a lot on me all at once,
Speaker 7: and then like I was there and it was like,
Speaker 7: why did she even invite me?
Speaker 4: It was weird.
Speaker 1: Listen, I no tell me what you're gonna say. No
Speaker 1: you first, I wouldn't blame you if you chose to
Speaker 1: just be a little bit less available. You don't necessarily,
Speaker 1: I don't to what, Listen, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on this. To what degree you
Speaker 1: need to send some long paragraph of I felt like this,
Speaker 1: and I felt like that, and because of that, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know that's something you feel compelled to do it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you for doing that either. But if
Speaker 1: you just want to kind of not be available when
Speaker 1: she asks you to hang out, she's just.
Speaker 7: Like it wasn't like fun, that it wasn't like enjoyable
Speaker 7: at all. But I don't even know if it's supposed
Speaker 7: to be enjoyable to have a sibling hand spend time
Speaker 7: with them.
Speaker 1: I think I think if you're taking time to go
Speaker 1: be with someone, I think it should be enjoyable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, But you're right.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's worth like a whole paragraph
Speaker 7: or anything. I don't I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you have to do a whole
Speaker 1: last paragraph. I think being less available and I think
Speaker 1: I'm trying myself. I'm trying myself lately to be more
Speaker 1: intentional about who I am, like spending time with and
Speaker 1: ship because you could, you could waste a lot of time,
Speaker 1: like you know, being with people you don't want to
Speaker 1: be around.
Speaker 7: So true, just because I feel like I have to
Speaker 7: be around them.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm. But yeah, I guess. I guess
Speaker 1: the the sort of solution to this is to be
Speaker 1: a little bit less available and try not to beat
Speaker 1: yourself up for the I know that you're a part you.
Speaker 1: You are very intact with other people's feelings, and it's
Speaker 1: scary the idea that you're going to hurt them. But
Speaker 1: at a certain point you can't try to. You can
Speaker 1: try your best to cater to everyone, but you'll fall
Speaker 1: short if you try.
Speaker 7: Yeah, why I disappoint myself?
Speaker 1: That's so true, Kaylee's anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer, or to me or
Speaker 1: to God before we go.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, all those people. I want to shout
Speaker 7: out my friend Jade, she's the coolest and the best,
Speaker 7: and she asked me to do that and thank you
Speaker 7: so much. I love you. I was like just getting
Speaker 7: into bed and heard your voice and the best.
Speaker 1: Have sweet dreams of of of being Oh that too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's a tough thing. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to do that. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to break up with a friends because, like the if
Speaker 1: you're playing it by the fucking books and you're you're
Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent in life, whatever it is, maybe
Speaker 1: you would be sending long paragraphs. But I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessary in every situation. Uh maybe
Speaker 1: it's just easier to, you know, bread crumb yourself away,
Speaker 1: if that's what you feel like you gotta do.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Hi, Oh wow, I'm a little bit boozled
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 1: You feel band boozled?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: How do you in what way? Ben boozled?
Speaker 5: Well, it's been about like an hour I've been waiting
Speaker 5: and I'm actually on Wow. I was almost to lose hope, but.
Speaker 1: Well, bamboozled, bamboo, do you know what bamboozled means.
Speaker 5: See, I wasn't even sure if I used that and
Speaker 5: the correct uh in the correct way.
Speaker 1: You didn't. But that's okay unless if you, I mean
Speaker 1: bamboozled means tricked, do you feel tricked?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I totally didn't use that in the correct uh in
Speaker 5: the correct way.
Speaker 1: But can I I want to say this. I want
Speaker 1: to say this the way that you used it few
Speaker 1: like sounds more appropriate, like bamboozled used it to mean
Speaker 1: like surprised.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nature of the word bamboozle sounds a little
Speaker 1: more like, uh, like a zany surprise wacky thing than like,
Speaker 1: you know, like like a trick or a scheme. Actually, know,
Speaker 1: it does sound a little it does. It does sound
Speaker 1: a little schemy. I'll give you that. I guess. I
Speaker 1: I'm not. I guess that's not giving you something. Are
Speaker 1: you fucking around now with the cups in your kitchen?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, that was actually my my daughter. She was playing
Speaker 5: with her toy microphone stand. And yeah, she's just chilling
Speaker 5: right now, watching her show, watching some doc mix stuff ins.
Speaker 5: And right now we're just kicking it, you know, we're vibing,
Speaker 5: enjoying our Sunday night.
Speaker 1: So middie, how can I have bamboozle used today?
Speaker 5: Okay, So lately I've been wanting to, I guess, become
Speaker 5: a little bit more socially active. I'm not really gonna
Speaker 5: say that I'm much of a homebody, but besides kind
Speaker 5: of like just going to work and I guess like
Speaker 5: going to the gym after after work once in a while.
Speaker 5: I really just, you know, stay home a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't really.
Speaker 5: Hang out a lot with friends or I'm not like
Speaker 5: seeing anybody at the moment. But I'm starting to feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, maybe I should try to kind of get
Speaker 5: out there a little bit more and you know, try
Speaker 5: to do what humans do and you know, socialize. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I was thinking maybe I could, uh, you know, perhaps
Speaker 5: get some insight from the get.
Speaker 1: Okay, a little bit of advice. Well, I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. You have you have a daughter.
Speaker 1: Do you can ask are you is your is the
Speaker 1: the the mother? What's your relationship with her?
Speaker 5: So we actually were engaged. We broke up about a
Speaker 5: year and two months, year and three months ago, and
Speaker 5: that's actually something that I'm not really one hundred percent
Speaker 5: over yet. So after the breakup, we were we remained
Speaker 5: really good friends for about a year and so basically
Speaker 5: what happened is, like, you know, one day she kind
Speaker 5: of just like stopped talking to me. She blocked me
Speaker 5: off of all social media, and you know what ended
Speaker 5: up happening was she she was talking to somebody else,
Speaker 5: and you know, right now it's gotten to a point where, like,
Speaker 5: you know, they've become serious, they moved in with each other,
Speaker 5: and it's something that like I'm not like salty about
Speaker 5: really because I knew it was coming eventually. I knew
Speaker 5: there was going to have to, you know, become a
Speaker 5: day where we were gonna have to like, you know,
Speaker 5: move on. But you know, she was just kind of
Speaker 5: like my other half. So it's like, you know, I
Speaker 5: guess I'm just kind of like in the process of,
Speaker 5: you know, trying to get over that whole thing. I
Speaker 5: think for the most part though, I've kind of gotten
Speaker 5: over it. I guess, what.
Speaker 1: Is her relationship with your daughter? How do you how
Speaker 1: do you guys manage your daughter together?
Speaker 5: So me and her, we actually we're still on pretty
Speaker 5: like good terms. I guess, you know, when it comes
Speaker 5: to like communications, we we do everything like organically, we've
Speaker 5: managed to come up with a like schedule to where
Speaker 5: we kind of get her like fifty to fifty and
Speaker 5: like exchange weekends.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, she's really she's really killing it with tour
Speaker 1: with that toy microphone.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Sorry, you probably hear her in the background.
Speaker 1: She sounds like, uh, she sounds like Boo from Monsters, Inc.
Speaker 5: You know what. I feel like, she probably resembles her
Speaker 5: quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Funny. I'm so okay, so this is interesting. So I mean,
Speaker 1: all right, you're divorce, so you got like half the
Speaker 1: time where you got to hunk her down and be
Speaker 1: a dad, but then another half the time where you're
Speaker 1: just kind of on your own and living a regular life.
Speaker 1: And now we're trying to figure out, okay, with that
Speaker 1: half the time that we're now with our kid, how
Speaker 1: can we make more of a life for ourselves.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Well, in the middle of me waiting, I
Speaker 5: was actually on Bumble's been trying to uh, you know,
Speaker 5: kind of mess around with that. I just started using
Speaker 5: that about a few days ago. And sorry, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, no, you go ahead. I I gotta learn that people.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean that's been going Uh, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna say it's been going good, but hasn't really been
Speaker 5: going bad because like I feel like, you know, with
Speaker 5: me like just starting to be coming this whole like
Speaker 5: dating scene thing. You know, I'm not really at the
Speaker 5: point where I can, you know, feel confident with like
Speaker 5: trying to appeal to somebody. And yeah, I guess like
Speaker 5: that's kind of another thing too, is like trying to
Speaker 5: you know, really increase my confidence.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But that's the way I just thinking about it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it is helpful to interrupt people, but so many I
Speaker 1: want to know in the dating universe when you're on
Speaker 1: the bumbles, is it is it tough to find somebody
Speaker 1: who's cool with you having a kid?
Speaker 5: To be honest, I haven't really found that out yet
Speaker 5: because it's been like such a short time that have
Speaker 5: been on here. And I mean usually, you know, most
Speaker 5: of the girls that I've talked to like don't really
Speaker 5: have a problem with it. I think part of it
Speaker 5: might have to do with the fact that my daughters
Speaker 5: like very adorable and in a way I feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, some girls might like gravitate towards that and
Speaker 5: think like, Okay, this guy can create like, you know,
Speaker 5: cute babies. So but me, from my experience, you know,
Speaker 5: from my experience, I feel like, you know, obviously there's
Speaker 5: gonna be those people that you know are not okay
Speaker 5: with it, you know, the people that you know want
Speaker 5: to be out live life, go go clubbing maybe. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess I'm you know, what I'm trying to find
Speaker 5: right now is just someone I can kind of like
Speaker 5: settle down with, you know, maybe want to play the
Speaker 5: stepmother role eventually.
Speaker 4: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you okay? So for for friendship, uh do you
Speaker 1: do you not have a lot of like just normal
Speaker 1: platonic friends.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that I really have like any like
Speaker 5: ride or die kind of friends. I mean, I have
Speaker 5: like a lot of acquaintances. It's just that I feel
Speaker 5: like I'm very like awkward when it comes to like
Speaker 5: getting like close to somebody. I'm the type of person
Speaker 5: that will like hang out with their parents a lot,
Speaker 5: and like with my brothers and stuff, which I'm grateful
Speaker 5: to have them in my life, you know, so I
Speaker 5: guess the like could be worse. But yeah, outside of that,
Speaker 5: you know, I got like buddies that I'll uh talk
Speaker 5: to once in a while. But yeah, not really a
Speaker 5: whole lot of like you know, super great friends outside
Speaker 5: of family, co workers.
Speaker 1: What do you do to try to make friends?
Speaker 5: See, I'm right now, I'm at the point where I
Speaker 5: don't really know.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of interd like.
Speaker 5: I don't really no, I guess like I'll kind of
Speaker 5: give you an example of like why I feel like
Speaker 5: I have a hard time with developing relationships. Like I
Speaker 5: feel like a lot of what like making friends of
Speaker 5: the guy is is like when you almost like try
Speaker 5: and like talk shit with somebody, and it's like I
Speaker 5: feel like when somebody like tries to like talk shit
Speaker 5: in like a friendly kind of manner, like I get
Speaker 5: awkward because it's like I think, like and it's not
Speaker 5: even like the part of like there like like conflict
Speaker 5: being involved. It's just like I think I might have
Speaker 5: like attachment issues, Like I feel like all this hold.
Speaker 1: On, hold on, there's just there's so much stuff here.
Speaker 1: You feel as though you feel as though.
Speaker 5: Sorry not make sense.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, it's I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: trying to understand. You feel as though talking ship is
Speaker 1: this like necessary part of the the male bonding experience.
Speaker 4: A lot of.
Speaker 5: From what I've experienced. I guess maybe it has to
Speaker 5: do with like a certain like crowd that I've kind
Speaker 5: of like always been around, because like, you know, a
Speaker 5: lot of the people that I kind of like work with,
Speaker 5: and the people that have like you know, became friends
Speaker 5: with each other, it's like, you know, they've gotten to
Speaker 5: a point in their friendship where like they can like
Speaker 5: talk shit to each other like comfortably, and it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm okay with that too, but it's like
Speaker 5: I start to feel like, oh, this person's like talking
Speaker 5: shit to me now, like does that mean like we're
Speaker 5: becoming friends? Like?
Speaker 1: And it's like that can be that there can be
Speaker 1: a compelling thing for some people, but you don't, Okay,
Speaker 1: where are you meeting these people?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: Uh, I guess like coworkers, And I mean that's pretty
Speaker 5: much like the only place where I've actually like socialize
Speaker 5: with people nowadays, I guess is like my work place.
Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have hobbies at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really big into into making music, and I
Speaker 5: guess I'm pretty like involved in like the local music scene,
Speaker 5: uh somewhat.
Speaker 4: Make fans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that's another aspect too that you know,
Speaker 5: I've been trying to kind of be a little bit
Speaker 5: more involved in is you know, like following my passion
Speaker 5: a little bit more with this whole music thing and
Speaker 5: you know, meeting other people in that community.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna I'm gonna try and you know, focus
Speaker 5: on that a little bit more. But like I was
Speaker 5: saying earlier, you know, my schedule is just so so
Speaker 5: busy nowadays that I can kind of only do that,
Speaker 5: like I guess, once in a great while. But you
Speaker 5: know that time will come and that if it's like
Speaker 5: a slow process, you know, I'm always gonna keep doing
Speaker 5: it because I love doing music.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. I, Like I said, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a perfect way to do it, whether it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: putting on shows or going to shows. Uh. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great hobby. I know you
Speaker 1: said you're calling in for for advice on this, but
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're you're doing a lot of the
Speaker 1: things that you know, anyone you ask advice from would
Speaker 1: be would tell you to do. Anyway, you have this
Speaker 1: great hobby that that is conducive to a social environment.
Speaker 1: What I guess what I don't I don't I'll say this.
Speaker 1: I'll say this is a thing I don't with this
Speaker 1: whole like talking ship like nothing is I guess not nothing,
Speaker 1: but talking shit is not integral to the male friendship experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like bond, I mean it's a
Speaker 1: it's a popular way for people to bond over each other.
Speaker 1: Like in school. One thing that people bond over all
Speaker 1: the time is mutual dislike of the same person. It
Speaker 1: is a strong bonding thing. It's not a lasting one,
Speaker 1: but it can be a strong bond. But you're an adult,
Speaker 1: so I mean, you don't need to do that anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just bonding over shared interests. But again,
Speaker 1: you you have this music thing that that is I
Speaker 1: feel like going to compel you to be able to
Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people. And you know, man,
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think you'll be fine. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know what what what you're you're you know,
Speaker 1: the main issue you're having.
Speaker 5: Is Yeah, I mean I think a lot of it is,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of going deeper into like the whole
Speaker 5: me feeling like I might I may have like attachment issues,
Speaker 5: like you know, feeling like it's just kind of hard
Speaker 5: for me to like click to somebody in general, but
Speaker 5: that may be like, you know, more of something that
Speaker 5: I kind of, you know, would probably want to talk
Speaker 5: to a therapist about maybe one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Do you have a therapist.
Speaker 5: As of right now? No, I've been really procrastinating on
Speaker 5: trying to uh talk to one. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: as of right now, I've just been like, you know,
Speaker 5: staying busy with you know, what I got going on,
Speaker 5: and as long as I can, uh, you know, keep
Speaker 5: up with this, uh with this routine that I got
Speaker 5: going on with, you know, going to the gym and working.
Speaker 5: And I'm actually going to be taking up a second
Speaker 5: job here pretty soon as well, so.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll keep at it.
Speaker 4: Mittie.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I if, if if this call wasn't
Speaker 1: as h as helpful as you wanted it to be.
Speaker 5: But oh no, not at all, man, Like I just
Speaker 5: I really appreciate you for like having me on here,
Speaker 5: and I watch your stream a lot. I work as
Speaker 5: delivery drivers, so I'm on the road a lot, so
Speaker 5: I get to listen to a lot of stuff. I'd
Speaker 5: say your podcasts and your YouTube videos and streams are
Speaker 5: probably like one of the main things that I listened to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool to.
Speaker 5: Be on here.
Speaker 1: It's cool to have you man, and good luck man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say this. You seem like a good guy. You
Speaker 1: seem like you're trying to do right by your daughter
Speaker 1: and by yourself and by the world. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you and all that stuff. Man. I
Speaker 1: think I think, I think you're going to be able
Speaker 1: to define whatever it is you're looking for. And if
Speaker 1: you don't, I mean, you got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: great stuff right in front of you, so you have
Speaker 1: that to lean into.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it, man, Thank you, thank you. Can I
Speaker 5: say one more thing to the people listening.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 5: So one of the reasons why I wanted to kind
Speaker 5: of make more friends and so I could bring somebody
Speaker 5: with to go see Lyle uh do his thing live
Speaker 5: in Chicago. If anybody wants to go with man add
Speaker 5: me on Instagram. It's our d V Underscore Lobos.
Speaker 4: L O b o Z.
Speaker 1: It's sold out. They can't come.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's sold out.
Speaker 1: I might add a second show, but I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know yet. But what about Milwaukee again.
Speaker 5: If there's gonna be a Milwaukee one.
Speaker 1: Yeah there, Yeah, yeah, I'm doing Milwaukee.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, is that one sold out?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I hope not. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope it is. Yeah, come come through Milwaukee. I'm
Speaker 1: doing the Collectivo or something like that. It looks like
Speaker 1: it's a cool venue. So listen, man, I hope to
Speaker 1: see you either one of those. Don't bring your daughter.
Speaker 1: Come when your ex hazard.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah for sure, yay, I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Hello, all right?
Speaker 5: How good I mess?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So sweet? Yeah. I like that guy. He was a
Speaker 1: good guy. He seemed like neurotic for sure, which is
Speaker 1: a natural state for a human being to be in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he sounds like he's doing right
Speaker 1: by his daughter, he's doing right by himself. He's trying.
Speaker 1: That's what the show is, mat It's a bunch of
Speaker 1: people trying, myself included, just people fucking trying the best
Speaker 1: they can to do whatever it is they got to do.
Speaker 1: God bless them.
Speaker 5: Get goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 1: Everythig Cat goes doing his eight. He was teaching you
Speaker 1: to houses and you're like, but he's not really an expert.