WEBVTT - "I HATE MY NAME"

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<v Speaker 1>into the episode. Hello, how are you while? Uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was this, I ask Will Smith. It says here,

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<v Speaker 1>it says here that your name is Will Smith. It

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<v Speaker 1>says here that is your legal name, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel like you're becoming a caricature of yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I really do feel like I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so my whole life. Like I didn't start out

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<v Speaker 3>as Will Smith. Like my family kind of raised me

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<v Speaker 3>his Billity. That's what I'm still called at home. And

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<v Speaker 3>then like sometime in like first second grade, one of

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<v Speaker 3>my teachers going to call me Will Smith, and it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just stuck. My whole life. I've been Will

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<v Speaker 3>Smith just like because it's funny. You know, I have

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<v Speaker 3>the same name as the actor. And as my life

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<v Speaker 3>has progressed, people have just like come to know me

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<v Speaker 3>as Will Smith. And it's kind of been like a

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<v Speaker 3>easy slot for like getting into things or talking to

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<v Speaker 3>people and all, like it's made so very easy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>always a good ice breaker. But I'm I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a character. I just I don't know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>weird fucking guy. Curse is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I allowed to curse?

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is not my podcast. M Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're a weird guy? No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I've never had to take things too seriously or

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<v Speaker 3>I've never felt the need to anyway. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like my life in general, I just think

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<v Speaker 3>it's more important to like have fun while doing the

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<v Speaker 3>things that are important. So it kind of led to

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<v Speaker 3>me just kind of having this weird philosophy of getting

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<v Speaker 3>things done however I need to no matter how strange

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<v Speaker 3>it may seem. And you know, I like just say

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<v Speaker 3>funny things, do funny things. I'm known on my campus

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<v Speaker 3>as also the rollers guy, and it's kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>like become a second persona along with that because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always wearing them.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me more about like why why this? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why does this seem like a negative thing for you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's become like an especially negative thing in like the

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<v Speaker 3>last few years because it's just like it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds really stupid. It's really annoying when people come

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<v Speaker 3>up to you and ask about the slap eight times

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<v Speaker 3>a day that happened at the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sort of, Uh that as soon as that happened

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<v Speaker 1>and will Smith started trending, you must have been shaken

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<v Speaker 1>in your boats, Like, fuck, this is gonna be everything

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<v Speaker 1>everyone says to me for the next five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and it has continued to be. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>it was the weirdest thing because, like, you know, the day,

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<v Speaker 3>the two days following that stupid thing, like every person

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever known has like texted me about that because

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<v Speaker 3>they thought it was Hi. And as time went on,

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<v Speaker 3>random people that I haven't spoken to in years, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from high schools, like old friends, the text me like

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<v Speaker 3>three months later and say so, how about that flat

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<v Speaker 3>And it is just kind of persistent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like a strange thing that I've endured, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's uh, it's kind of weird dealing with this

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<v Speaker 3>thing that has like become part of my identity even

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<v Speaker 3>though I don't want it to be.

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<v Speaker 4>M hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you like your identity to be? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Just Will, I guess. And I've like in the last

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<v Speaker 3>few months, like coming back to school, you know, for

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<v Speaker 3>like the new school year and stuff. Not that I

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<v Speaker 3>ever like, I mean, I did introduce myself with Will

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<v Speaker 3>Smith quite a bit back in the day, but like

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm kind of just trying to be Will. But

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<v Speaker 3>the name persists because all it takes is a professor

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<v Speaker 3>reading my name on the thing on the agenda, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>to connect the dots, and that's what everyone knows me

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<v Speaker 3>as already.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mm hmm. Okay, what's your life like outside

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<v Speaker 1>of being Will Smith?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's honestly very good. I think that I live

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<v Speaker 3>a very good life, and it's just like because I've

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<v Speaker 3>tried my best to make it good. You know, lots

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<v Speaker 3>of friends and you know, good environment. Nick, who you

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<v Speaker 3>just spoke to, one of my best friends here at school. Ah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny. We're not We're like on other ends of

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<v Speaker 3>campus right now, mhm. But everywhere I go it's always

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<v Speaker 3>been Will Smith, Will Smith, Will Smith, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always like like, no, I want to let you

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<v Speaker 1>finish real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's like a lot of people seem to don't

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<v Speaker 3>actually care what I'm like. They just think it's funny

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm Will Smith, and that is really like started

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<v Speaker 3>to affect me in the last year or two.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you wish people know about you?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just think that, like, like the things I

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<v Speaker 3>do on a daily basis don't need to be sort

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<v Speaker 3>of put under this category of being a character because

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<v Speaker 3>I have a funny name, you know, if that makes

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<v Speaker 3>any sense at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're starting to feel like a one dimensional

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<v Speaker 1>being and not like an actual person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Like I guess, I guess like this is a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good instance of it. Like I'll go over to

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<v Speaker 3>my little friend's door him and then like all of

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<v Speaker 3>her roommates will start like yelling Will Smith. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they have people over, they go, oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 3>Will Smith. And they don't really care who I am.

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<v Speaker 3>They just care about the name.

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<v Speaker 1>M What do you wish people saw within you?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Just Will be the person that wants

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to everybody, have a conversation with everybody, gets

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<v Speaker 3>to know somebody. I think it's important. It's just like

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<v Speaker 3>on a daily basis, just be that person that will

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<v Speaker 3>go up to somebody and start a conversation. Just be

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<v Speaker 3>there for somebody. And I am. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>am that to a lot of people. But it has

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<v Speaker 3>gotten to a point where a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 3>don't care about my personal attributes.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, used to go by Billy, right, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't in probably fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you consider changing your name.

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<v Speaker 4>To Billy anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Or just in general?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I wouldn't start going by Billy again just

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<v Speaker 3>because my friend group back home, you know, my best friends,

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<v Speaker 3>we already have a Billy in the group. But uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually thinking about once I graduate and head

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<v Speaker 3>out on my own, to change my last name to

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<v Speaker 3>my h name on my mother's side, Romeo, in honor

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<v Speaker 3>of like my grandfather, because he was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most important people in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Romeo, what do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's fun, it's good of my string to it,

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<v Speaker 3>but like genuinely more important to me. It's just like

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<v Speaker 3>keeping that name going. I'm the only boy in my family.

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<v Speaker 3>I have three older sisters and the only other Romeos

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<v Speaker 3>that a guy are, you know, fifteen hours away down south?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you identify more with Romeo than with Smith?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I very much associate with the name Smith

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<v Speaker 3>because both sides of my family have stuck around back home.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a very large family that I love very much,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're all very supportive. So it's not like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like I'm changing my name just from the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like side with one side of the family. I

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<v Speaker 3>do love the Smith's side of my family very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you something. It says here that

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<v Speaker 1>you were in the queue the other day but you

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<v Speaker 1>had to hang up because there was an active shooter

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<v Speaker 1>in your dorm.

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<v Speaker 3>No, okay, so there was a there was a email

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<v Speaker 3>that went out our school was veried ineffective at relaying

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<v Speaker 3>information to us. So we had heard like like people

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<v Speaker 3>were just like texting rumblings about a threat in one

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<v Speaker 3>of the complexes. I was not there. I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the studio, which I am right now actually doing some

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<v Speaker 3>artwork a monitor tonight. But these schools sent out an

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<v Speaker 3>email about a potential threat. So I hung up the

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<v Speaker 3>phone so I could figure out what the heck was

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<v Speaker 3>going on and like do something about it if I

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<v Speaker 3>needed to.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a funny way. I'm glad you're all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the threat was apparently taking care of like immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>but the school had no proper life precautions in place.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, like, well, apparently we had cops on campus

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<v Speaker 3>with Bryant shields, and the only information we had was

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<v Speaker 3>a very poorly worded femail address to each student about

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<v Speaker 3>a police investigation. So it was almost appearing as if

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<v Speaker 3>we were under investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, you know, you know what would have

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<v Speaker 1>made you a legend? What is if there was an

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<v Speaker 1>active shooter and you went up to him and slapped him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Will any final thoughts, feelings, sentiments on your

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<v Speaker 1>name being Will Smith that that you that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to share with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of my life it was, it was a strange blessing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then just as I've gotten older, it's just not

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<v Speaker 3>the person I want to be anymore. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>think that like it's important as like I'm twenty, it's

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<v Speaker 3>important as I kind of it's just twenty in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>where like I'm getting ready to graduate and hopefully move

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<v Speaker 3>out on my own. But I'm the person I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be, and then I have the opportunity to start

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<v Speaker 3>fresh if I need to. I think that everybody should

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<v Speaker 3>have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Well, thank you very much for calling and sharing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you enjoy your new life, as will Romeo.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, mister Ghek.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care man, have a good night.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care. Hello. Hello, Hi, who is this?

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<v Speaker 4>This is Robert Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Robert Johnson. What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so I have a bit of a revenge story

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<v Speaker 4>to tell, and I'm not too sure if I should

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<v Speaker 4>feel guilty about what I gave it if I took

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<v Speaker 4>it too far. Not okay, it's nothing like Super Dark

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<v Speaker 4>or anything. I didn't. I didn't do anything too crazy. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess chat will decide that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, but well, you know that's up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>only God can judge. I think I don't know what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so a bit of a backstory and I'll try

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<v Speaker 4>not to make it too depressing or anything, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>During during lockdown in twenty twenty, I got myself a

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<v Speaker 4>German Shepherd puppy to help with the depression I was

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<v Speaker 4>going through and everything. Yeah, and I wasn't aware that

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<v Speaker 4>she had a tarvo. It's a it's a really aggressive,

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<v Speaker 4>deadly disease towards dogs. We only got to have her

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<v Speaker 4>for a couple of weeks before I had to unfortunately

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<v Speaker 4>put her down. But you know, that sucks, but at

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<v Speaker 4>least I gave her the best couple of weeks I

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<v Speaker 4>possibly could have given her. Sure, Sure, So after I

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<v Speaker 4>put her down, I came back home to the apartment

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<v Speaker 4>I was sharing with one of my friends. He's not

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<v Speaker 4>my friend anymore, that's for sure, but he had went

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<v Speaker 4>into my room. He took some stuff out of there,

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<v Speaker 4>and I confronted him about it. We got into a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a tussle and he decided to call the

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<v Speaker 4>cops on me, and he told the police that I

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<v Speaker 4>pointed a gun at him, that I had wed in

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<v Speaker 4>the basement. Well, I never did that. If I did,

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<v Speaker 4>i'd absolutely be locked up right now. But the apartment complex,

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<v Speaker 4>after everything got situated, they decided that they were going

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<v Speaker 4>to kick me out of the apartment, even after the

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<v Speaker 4>whole police report and everything went through. Because the other

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<v Speaker 4>guy lived there longer, they decided that I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the one that got to stay. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fair enough. He was there like a year before me,

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dog does the dog? Is that have anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with this roommate situation?

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of? Sort of? It was just he was being

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<v Speaker 4>a real dick, like he knew where I was. He

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<v Speaker 4>he knew I was on edge because I just lost

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<v Speaker 4>the I just spent a lot of money on the dog,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I had about one thousand dollars worth of

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<v Speaker 4>VET bills that I had to pay and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>dog just died, and so he knew he knew all

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<v Speaker 4>that was going on. I'm not too sure what, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So what I I guess I still don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what exactly you guys were fighting about he took

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from your room and you confronted.

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<v Speaker 4>Him about it. So he when I was gone that night,

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<v Speaker 4>he went into my room and he took he took

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<v Speaker 4>one of my Xbox controllers and one of my chairs,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just went up to and I was like, hey, man, like,

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<v Speaker 4>don't go into my room. You know, I was. I

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<v Speaker 4>was much more angry than what I'm letting on right now. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I was on I was on edge, and so confronted

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<v Speaker 4>him and I pushed him, and he was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>calling the police on you. And so that's uh, it

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<v Speaker 4>was me and him getting into a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>physical altercation after everything happened. That he was just that

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<v Speaker 4>that's just kind of how everything went down after I

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<v Speaker 4>got home. And to be fair, I wasn't in the

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<v Speaker 4>best date of mine. I absolutely could have handled it

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<v Speaker 4>better if I needed to. But uh, after they told

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<v Speaker 4>me that I was going to have to move out,

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<v Speaker 4>they were like, so, since you're the one moving out,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to give you a couple of days. They

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<v Speaker 4>asked the roommate if he could leave for a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of days, go spend h spend some time at a

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<v Speaker 4>friend's house, just so I could pack everything up, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>get out of there, like I need to. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 4>uh so I guess the real important part, the next part,

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<v Speaker 4>the reason I did what I did. Afterwards, So when

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<v Speaker 4>he called the police on me, this was probably two

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<v Speaker 4>or three days after the whole George Floyd incident. So

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<v Speaker 4>I had been seeing everything that was happening on the news.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. This was like one am at night, like

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<v Speaker 4>I had just gotten home driving back from that and

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<v Speaker 4>all that. And so when he tells him that I

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<v Speaker 4>was plenty a gun at him, I had four officers,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, coming to my apartment, you know, guns pointed

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<v Speaker 4>at me. I was like, you know, I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna die. And that was a real I thought

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I was dead, you know. I my life

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<v Speaker 4>really flashed before my eyes when all of that happened. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And so after everything got situated, you know, the police

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<v Speaker 4>were like, well, this was clearly a bullshit call. We

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<v Speaker 4>got for some for no reason. This was very much

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<v Speaker 4>a waste of time. And so I decided, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I did. I decided I was gonna I couldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>destroy his property. I wasn't gonna break any type of

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<v Speaker 4>laws or anything like that. I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 4>out slashing tires or anything like that. But what I

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<v Speaker 4>did end up doing is over the course of two days,

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<v Speaker 4>I used a Jada Stevens, anal masturbator, and I collected

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<v Speaker 4>all of the lube and come from it over the

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<v Speaker 4>course of two days. And I preceded it to smear everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I poured it into his Xbox vent. He had like

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<v Speaker 4>a four hundred dollars night set. I sneered it all

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<v Speaker 4>over there on his towels, everything that that asshole owned.

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<v Speaker 4>I made sure that it had just come in lube everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I made sure there are a couple of cubes in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I and no one else knows about this

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<v Speaker 4>except for the gap anyone that's hearing it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the first time I've ever come out to

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<v Speaker 4>say anything about it. And you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I was justified in what I did, because you don't

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<v Speaker 4>just tell the cops. This guy pointed a guy at

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<v Speaker 4>me without the intense of trying to get that person shot.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you don't just lie about something like that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I felt like he really genuinely put my

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<v Speaker 4>life at risk, and so I decided I just everything

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<v Speaker 4>he owned everything. I did it as much as over

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<v Speaker 4>the course of two days. And I guess, really what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm am I piece of shit for doing that? Or

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<v Speaker 4>was it you know, kind of deserved for doing that

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<v Speaker 4>for someone?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how did he respond? Because I he eventually how

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<v Speaker 1>does he know?

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<v Speaker 4>Ol on?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you just do this?

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<v Speaker 4>No? This was this was in two thousand and twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>this was this is quite this was like three years

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this was?

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<v Speaker 1>So how does he not know? Wouldn't he if you

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<v Speaker 1>spread come on everything he owns? How would he not

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<v Speaker 1>realize it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I presume he wouldn't just go around sniffing his

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<v Speaker 4>nice checking for a cumbsmell. I mean, I know, I

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<v Speaker 4>certainly don't go around my apartment making sure people aren't

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<v Speaker 4>coming on things. I guess I never really thought about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you came in the event of his xbox?

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<v Speaker 1>You came? Did you come on his clothes?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What all? Did you come on?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't go into his room, but we had a

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<v Speaker 4>laundry unit in the hallway, and I just got anything

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<v Speaker 4>that was in there. I just kind of drizzled it

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<v Speaker 4>over like it was chocolate syrup over ice cream. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I collected over the course of two days. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>put it into this little bowl, but I just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of let sit there. And I know that sounds that's

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely discussing. It sounds horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>How much coum did you put it? Because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to I mean, that's like a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Coun Well, so it wasn't all just come you got.

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<v Speaker 4>I I was using the lube for the masturbader, so

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<v Speaker 4>I would ring it out and collect the lube and come.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was probably I think I jerked off probably

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<v Speaker 4>three or four times over each day over the course

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<v Speaker 4>of the two days, to make sure I had enough

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<v Speaker 4>to do what I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you kind of diluted a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the come with the loop to make it like a loob.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not a horse. I'm not I'm not pumping

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<v Speaker 4>out gallons at a time. I'm I'm no Johnny Sin

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<v Speaker 4>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he really didn't notice at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so I had. As soon as I did that,

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<v Speaker 4>I moved out like the next morning, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>haven't had contacts with him. So if he maybe he

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<v Speaker 4>does know, maybe not. I haven't seen the guy for

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<v Speaker 4>almost two and a half years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so let me can I ask you this then? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because here's the thing. If your intention in smearing come

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<v Speaker 1>over everything that this guy owns is to see the

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<v Speaker 1>look on his face when he realizes it, then what

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<v Speaker 1>was the point If he never found out, And if

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<v Speaker 1>he did find out, then that's probably to further antagonize you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a guilty pleasure knowing I'm the only one

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<v Speaker 4>that knows that I did it, you know, because if

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<v Speaker 4>I were to tell him I did that, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if there's legal repercussions connected to that. There might be,

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<v Speaker 4>there might not. And I again, I was trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure that I, you know, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get you know, taken to court for you know, doing

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<v Speaker 4>anything crazy like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you don't know whether or not they're legal

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<v Speaker 1>repercussions for jizzing on somebody's stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean, if is there is there laws

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<v Speaker 4>against that? Is there any laws that prevent me from

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<v Speaker 4>doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably?

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's news to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all right, if so, listen, listen, listen back

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<v Speaker 1>to your central question. Am I am I the asshole

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<v Speaker 1>for spreading cum?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah's? Am I a piece of shit? For what? I did.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me ask you a question in your

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<v Speaker 1>heart ultimately, do you believe you're twenty two years old? Okay,

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you're somewhat of an adult. Okay, I like, Okay, you're an

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent enough guy. I can tell in your heart of hearts, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>do you really believe that's the best way to handle

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<v Speaker 1>conflict is to jiz on the other person's stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go with a negative stark man, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>say that is a probably not the way you want

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<v Speaker 4>to handle things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably not the way you want to handle things. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>is there in your mind? If you could go back

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<v Speaker 1>turn the clocks, how would you have handled that situation differently?

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<v Speaker 4>I would hm, Oh, that's uh. You know, I'm really

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 4>not too sure because a lot of a lot has

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<v Speaker 4>happened then, and I know for a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't in the state of mind. But if I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't if I was, if I had the state of

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<v Speaker 4>mind I have today, I probably feel a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>guilty about it, but I probably still do it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna lie. I feel a lot more guilt, but

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<v Speaker 4>I would probably still do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you still do it? I mean look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago, right, Like what why?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why does why does the anger continue to bubble within

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<v Speaker 1>you and you know, spurred out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of you because, oh god, you call me off guard

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<v Speaker 4>with that one. You know, it really comes down just

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<v Speaker 4>to the fact that, you know, I thought I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a you know, four police officers pointing guns

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<v Speaker 4>at you while you're crying, like the whole I was

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<v Speaker 4>on the phone with the UH with the operator. I

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 4>was calling him. I was like, hey, well, I am

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<v Speaker 4>not a crazy person. I do not have a firearm.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I take that. I don't think that's not something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anybody would take that lightly, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And sure maybe he was just trying to ensure that

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<v Speaker 4>the police would come or whatever. But just the way

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<v Speaker 4>he said he has a gun, he pointed at me,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has weed in the basement. It's it's it's malicious.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, you don't just do that for no reason.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>He can I ask you a question, absolutely, did you

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<v Speaker 1>pull out your penis and threatened to come on him

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<v Speaker 1>and he interpreted that as a gun?

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<v Speaker 4>No, my, my, my penis is far too small to

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<v Speaker 4>be interpreted as a firearm.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just wanted to make sure, so listen. My

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<v Speaker 1>my official stance on this is that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that you coming on all this man's belongings is going

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<v Speaker 1>to really do anything productive for the situation. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any conflict resolution experts or real therapists would say otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it makes you feel good, makes you feel good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean a that just sounds like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work for nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, I was, I was sor the second.

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<v Speaker 1>Day rough, So I look at the end of the day. Revenge,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a poison that attacks the person who

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<v Speaker 1>does the jizzy as well as the person who is

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<v Speaker 1>just gone. Do you agree with this?

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<v Speaker 4>I yeah, I agree everything you've said so far. The

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<v Speaker 4>more you the more you talk, the more I look

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<v Speaker 4>back and realize how bad it is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If I heard this story and I was a person

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<v Speaker 1>that you were going to room with in the future,

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I would probably change my mind about rooming with you.

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<v Speaker 4>But would you say it wasn't well? Was it not

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<v Speaker 4>justified to retaliate after something like that?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Retaliation it's an interesting thing. I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about this a lot. Actually, I really do well, that's

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>all a lot of wars start. I think it's retaliation.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Like at the end of the day, I don't know

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's This is an interesting philosophical question being posed by

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you talking about whether or not it was a good

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>decision to come on your roommate's xbox. Retaliation is interesting

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know to what degree it is helpful

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>At a certain point. It really can only heighten conflict. Further,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really solve anything. It is a gut impulse

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<v Speaker 1>that only serves the moment. It doesn't really do anything

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<v Speaker 1>productive for any party. That's how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But would you say I hurt anyone doing these actions?

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, you just told me that your penis was sore.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, besides me, I knew what I knew what the

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<v Speaker 4>cost of what I was about to do. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a small price.

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<v Speaker 1>To My official stance on this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>that I think you should find healthier coping mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, I agree. I think you're a wise man. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, tell me what you're gonna do next time something

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<v Speaker 1>like this happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, hopefully it never happens again. Fortunately I live with

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 4>some pretty cool dudes, right now. But if something were

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 4>like that's ever happened again, hopefully I'd be mature enough

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 4>to just grow up and be like, all right, whatever,

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I got the shit end of the stick. You know,

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I guess it could be worse. I guess I would

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<v Speaker 4>just try to look at it in a more positive light.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, you know, just not try to obviously. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>if something like that happens, it's gonna suck. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>bother me. But you know, I'm a grown ass man

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 4>at this point. I could probably if something like that

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<v Speaker 4>were to happen now, I would definitely handle it different.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, I was, I was twenty years old. I

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 4>was depressed. I was day drinking. You know, that was

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.239
<v Speaker 4>just what you could do during lockdown. You know, I

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 4>was definitely not in a right state of mind. But

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 4>right now I would say absolutely I would handle it

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 4>much differently.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything you want to say to the people of

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the computer before we.

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<v Speaker 4>Go, hopefully you guys don't think them too much of

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 4>a freak, you're too much of a bad person. I

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 4>hope this was interesting. I hope you guys have a

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 4>good night. I appreciate you giving me the time to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>You you too, Robert tick care.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a good one.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that was almost a twenty minute call about jizzing

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on a roommate's xbox? Was Robert justified? Like what? Here's

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing? What has justification ever really done for anyone?

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Would he be justified in a court of law? Probably not?

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>But also I don't know if there is a law

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that says that you can't jack off onto your roommate's xbox.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>But also they're almost certainly is. Let's take another phone call. Hello, Hello,

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>how are you?

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 7>I'm good?

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylee? It says your name is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I get you this evening? Kaylee?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh. Well, I just kind of wanted to

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 7>tell a story, I guess, get your thoughts on it or.

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what what what happens?

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I am.

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<v Speaker 7>A few years back I found out that I had

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<v Speaker 7>a biological sister on my mom's side, half sister, and

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<v Speaker 7>we had been kind of talking for a few years

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit, and then I finally spent a weekend

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<v Speaker 7>with her for Halloween to do something and it was

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 7>just kind of like a really weird, bad experience, And

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 7>I don't really know what kind of relationship I want

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 7>or should have with her anymore.

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what made the experience so bad, Well, she when.

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<v Speaker 7>We were talking is when she like initially hit me up,

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 7>she was very obviously like excited to meet me, calling

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 7>me on PRINSIPI and that has stayed away like trying

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 7>to get very close very quickly, which was like pretty

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 7>you know. I was like into that a little bit.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 7>But then when I went there, she just like.

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<v Speaker 6>Didn't talk to me the whole time and was like

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 6>on the phone with people, like calling people the whole

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 6>time I was there, Like there was really not a

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 6>word spoken between the two of us. And then also

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 6>like she was kind of like I felt kind of

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 6>like a show pony, like an accessory almost. She was

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 6>showing me like off to everyone, like I was on

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 6>like a tour of meeting every single person in her life.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>And she kept doing.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 7>This thing where she was introducing me as her sister

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 7>and like she's just like me, but she's a stoner,

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 7>which is like.

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Weird.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't like being called that. I don't like people

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.239
<v Speaker 7>saying that about me to other people. I don't know,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 7>she's just a I didn't like that, and thing she

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 7>just wasn't really present, so.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>She was on the phone all the time. She was

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like showing you around as like she's like me, but

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>she's a stoner, weird vibe all around, and you are

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>here debating whether or not you should have a relationship

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>with her not.

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't really necessarily want to cut her off.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 4>I just.

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 7>She's still like now that I'm not there, like she's

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 7>still doing that thing, or she's just like texting me

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 7>and being like wanting to see me and spend extended

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 7>time with me, And I just like kind of want

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 7>to let her know that I don't want to do that,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 7>but I don't really know how to say it. I

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 7>guess like I want to do some of the time,

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 7>I wanted to be like a plan. I guess I

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 7>don't want to just like stay with her or do

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 7>anything like that.

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is hard. I don't have like the greatest

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>solution of like how do you because I mean, yes,

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>this person's your half sister, But to me, the familial

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>aspect of this is is there relevant really? Because what

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>does that really even dictates? Right? Absolutely?

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 7>I didn't know twenty years.

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, by the way, even if she was

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>your blood sister, what does that really dictate what is that? Well, yeah,

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, she's your bud sister, but well, I

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>guess to say, I guess what I meant to say

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>is even if she was in your life? Blah blah,

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Like what really does dictate whether or not we should

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>have relationships with people?

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't even like that word should, like good by,

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>no please.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just weird for me because I was kind of

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 7>raised as an only child that I've never had a

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 7>sibling before, and pretty much everyone I know has like

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 7>close relationships excuse me, relationships with their siblings. So I

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 7>just feel like it's something I want, you know, but

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 7>it just doesn't feel great when I'm doing it.

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I think the idea that you're being compelled by an

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>illusion of what having a sister might be like or

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>your friends' experiences with their siblings is not compelling to me.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>And with the limited amount of time that you have

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to uh, you know, in a day, in a week,

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and a month and a year and a life, you

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>should really only be spending it with people who you

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>give you give a fuck about who you want to

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>be spending time with, you know, Yeah.

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 7>I care a lot about people, know, So it's like

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 7>even if it's not someone important to me. I just

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 7>care about their feelings a lot, And you know what.

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>That's sweet of you. And I think to a point

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a good trait to have, and it becomes a

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>bad trait to have. I think, you know, there's various

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.919
<v Speaker 1>opinions about this, but when it starts to like come

0:36:55.960 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at like a detriment to you, you know, like your

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>time is limited, your time is valuable. You don't want

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to spend it with somebody who you don't fucking like

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>being around.

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like a waste of time?

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And it's hard. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>whole weekend, and afterwards you do feel like it's I mean,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this was a waste of time, this

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>initial meeting, because you satisfied a curiosity you had, so

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't call that a waste of time. M hm,

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that's true. But yeah, this is hard. I don't know

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>how to like break how do you break up with

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a friend?

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 4>You break up with like.

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 7>It's weird because I didn't know her for twenty years,

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 7>but she knew about me the entire time, and like

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 7>would write these letters to me but not send them.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 7>But then like gave them all to me, like it

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 7>was like she put a lot on me all at once,

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 7>and then like I was there and it was like,

0:37:57.880 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 7>why did she even invite me?

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 4>It was weird.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I no tell me what you're gonna say. No

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you first, I wouldn't blame you if you chose to

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:24.720
<v Speaker 1>just be a little bit less available. You don't necessarily,

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't to what, Listen, I don't. I don't know.

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an expert on this. To what degree you

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>need to send some long paragraph of I felt like this,

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like that, and because of that, I

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to hang out with you. I don't know.

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>You know that's something you feel compelled to do it.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't blame you for doing that either. But if

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you just want to kind of not be available when

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>she asks you to hang out, she's just.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 7>Like it wasn't like fun, that it wasn't like enjoyable

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 7>at all. But I don't even know if it's supposed

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 7>to be enjoyable to have a sibling hand spend time

0:38:59.640 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 7>with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think if you're taking time to go

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>be with someone, I think it should be enjoyable.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think, yeah, But you're right.

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if it's worth like a whole paragraph

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 7>or anything. I don't I don't think.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think you have to do a whole

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>last paragraph. I think being less available and I think

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying myself. I'm trying myself lately to be more

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>intentional about who I am, like spending time with and

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>ship because you could, you could waste a lot of time,

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know, being with people you don't want to

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be around.

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 7>So true, just because I feel like I have to

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 7>be around them.

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, mm hmm. But yeah, I guess. I guess

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the the sort of solution to this is to be

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit less available and try not to beat

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>yourself up for the I know that you're a part you.

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>You are very intact with other people's feelings, and it's

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>scary the idea that you're going to hurt them. But

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point you can't try to. You can

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>try your best to cater to everyone, but you'll fall

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>short if you try.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, why I disappoint myself?

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>That's so true, Kaylee's anything else you want to say

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to the people of the computer, or to me or

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to God before we go.

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh, all those people. I want to shout

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 7>out my friend Jade, she's the coolest and the best,

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 7>and she asked me to do that and thank you

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 7>so much. I love you. I was like just getting

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<v Speaker 7>into bed and heard your voice and the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Have sweet dreams of of of being Oh that too, Yeah,

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's a tough thing. I

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do that. I don't know how

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>to break up with a friends because, like the if

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you're playing it by the fucking books and you're you're

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you're one hundred percent in life, whatever it is, maybe

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you would be sending long paragraphs. But I don't I

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's necessary in every situation. Uh maybe

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just easier to, you know, bread crumb yourself away,

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>if that's what you feel like you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Hello, Hi, Oh wow, I'm a little bit boozled

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:43.919
<v Speaker 5>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel band boozled?

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>How do you in what way? Ben boozled?

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's been about like an hour I've been waiting

0:41:55.120 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 5>and I'm actually on Wow. I was almost to lose hope, but.

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, bamboozled, bamboo, do you know what bamboozled means.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 5>See, I wasn't even sure if I used that and

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 5>the correct uh in the correct way.

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You didn't. But that's okay unless if you, I mean

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>bamboozled means tricked, do you feel tricked?

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 5>I totally didn't use that in the correct uh in

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 5>the correct way.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 1>But can I I want to say this. I want

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to say this the way that you used it few

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>like sounds more appropriate, like bamboozled used it to mean

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like surprised.

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the nature of the word bamboozle sounds a little

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>more like, uh, like a zany surprise wacky thing than like,

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like a trick or a scheme. Actually, know,

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 1>it does sound a little it does. It does sound

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a little schemy. I'll give you that. I guess. I

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I guess that's not giving you something. Are

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you fucking around now with the cups in your kitchen?

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 5>No, that was actually my my daughter. She was playing

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 5>with her toy microphone stand. And yeah, she's just chilling

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 5>right now, watching her show, watching some doc mix stuff ins.

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 5>And right now we're just kicking it, you know, we're vibing,

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 5>enjoying our Sunday night.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So middie, how can I have bamboozle used today?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So lately I've been wanting to, I guess, become

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more socially active. I'm not really gonna

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 5>say that I'm much of a homebody, but besides kind

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 5>of like just going to work and I guess like

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 5>going to the gym after after work once in a while.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 5>I really just, you know, stay home a lot.

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't really.

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 5>Hang out a lot with friends or I'm not like

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 5>seeing anybody at the moment. But I'm starting to feel like,

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe I should try to kind of get

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 5>out there a little bit more and you know, try

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 5>to do what humans do and you know, socialize. And yeah,

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 5>I was thinking maybe I could, uh, you know, perhaps

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 5>get some insight from the get.

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, a little bit of advice. Well, I mean, you've

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>got a lot going on. You have you have a daughter.

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you can ask are you is your is the

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the the mother? What's your relationship with her?

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<v Speaker 5>So we actually were engaged. We broke up about a

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 5>year and two months, year and three months ago, and

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 5>that's actually something that I'm not really one hundred percent

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 5>over yet. So after the breakup, we were we remained

0:44:55.120 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 5>really good friends for about a year and so basically

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 5>what happened is, like, you know, one day she kind

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 5>of just like stopped talking to me. She blocked me

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 5>off of all social media, and you know what ended

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 5>up happening was she she was talking to somebody else,

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 5>and you know, right now it's gotten to a point where, like,

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, they've become serious, they moved in with each other,

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 5>and it's something that like I'm not like salty about

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 5>really because I knew it was coming eventually. I knew

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 5>there was going to have to, you know, become a

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 5>day where we were gonna have to like, you know,

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 5>move on. But you know, she was just kind of

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 5>like my other half. So it's like, you know, I

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 5>guess I'm just kind of like in the process of,

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, trying to get over that whole thing. I

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 5>think for the most part though, I've kind of gotten

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.760
<v Speaker 5>over it. I guess, what.

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Is her relationship with your daughter? How do you how

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 1>do you guys manage your daughter together?

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 5>So me and her, we actually we're still on pretty

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 5>like good terms. I guess, you know, when it comes

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 5>to like communications, we we do everything like organically, we've

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 5>managed to come up with a like schedule to where

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 5>we kind of get her like fifty to fifty and

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 5>like exchange weekends.

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, she's really she's really killing it with tour

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>with that toy microphone.

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Sorry, you probably hear her in the background.

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>She sounds like, uh, she sounds like Boo from Monsters, Inc.

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 5>You know what. I feel like, she probably resembles her

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 5>quite a bit.

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Funny. I'm so okay, so this is interesting. So I mean,

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, you're divorce, so you got like half the

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>time where you got to hunk her down and be

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>a dad, but then another half the time where you're

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>just kind of on your own and living a regular life.

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>And now we're trying to figure out, okay, with that

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 1>half the time that we're now with our kid, how

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>can we make more of a life for ourselves.

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, Well, in the middle of me waiting, I

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 5>was actually on Bumble's been trying to uh, you know,

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:20.879
<v Speaker 5>kind of mess around with that. I just started using

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 5>that about a few days ago. And sorry, go.

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Ahead, no, you go ahead. I I gotta learn that people.

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I mean that's been going Uh, I'm not

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 5>gonna say it's been going good, but hasn't really been

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 5>going bad because like I feel like, you know, with

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 5>me like just starting to be coming this whole like

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 5>dating scene thing. You know, I'm not really at the

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 5>point where I can, you know, feel confident with like

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 5>trying to appeal to somebody. And yeah, I guess like

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 5>that's kind of another thing too, is like trying to

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, really increase my confidence.

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's the way I just thinking about it. Sometimes

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it is helpful to interrupt people, but so many I

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>want to know in the dating universe when you're on

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the bumbles, is it is it tough to find somebody

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>who's cool with you having a kid?

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.359
<v Speaker 5>To be honest, I haven't really found that out yet

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 5>because it's been like such a short time that have

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 5>been on here. And I mean usually, you know, most

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 5>of the girls that I've talked to like don't really

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 5>have a problem with it. I think part of it

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 5>might have to do with the fact that my daughters

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 5>like very adorable and in a way I feel like,

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, some girls might like gravitate towards that and

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 5>think like, Okay, this guy can create like, you know,

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 5>cute babies. So but me, from my experience, you know,

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 5>from my experience, I feel like, you know, obviously there's

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 5>gonna be those people that you know are not okay

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 5>with it, you know, the people that you know want

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 5>to be out live life, go go clubbing maybe. But yeah,

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:21.839
<v Speaker 5>I guess I'm you know, what I'm trying to find

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 5>right now is just someone I can kind of like

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 5>settle down with, you know, maybe want to play the

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 5>stepmother role eventually.

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 4>M hmm.

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you okay? So for for friendship, uh do you

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>do you not have a lot of like just normal

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>platonic friends.

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't say that I really have like any like

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 5>ride or die kind of friends. I mean, I have

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 5>like a lot of acquaintances. It's just that I feel

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 5>like I'm very like awkward when it comes to like

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 5>getting like close to somebody. I'm the type of person

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 5>that will like hang out with their parents a lot,

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 5>and like with my brothers and stuff, which I'm grateful

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 5>to have them in my life, you know, so I

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 5>guess the like could be worse. But yeah, outside of that,

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, I got like buddies that I'll uh talk

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 5>to once in a while. But yeah, not really a

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 5>whole lot of like you know, super great friends outside

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.919
<v Speaker 5>of family, co workers.

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>What do you do to try to make friends?

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 5>See, I'm right now, I'm at the point where I

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 5>don't really know.

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of interd like.

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't really no, I guess like I'll kind of

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 5>give you an example of like why I feel like

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 5>I have a hard time with developing relationships. Like I

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 5>feel like a lot of what like making friends of

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:10.879
<v Speaker 5>the guy is is like when you almost like try

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:14.360
<v Speaker 5>and like talk shit with somebody, and it's like I

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 5>feel like when somebody like tries to like talk shit

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 5>in like a friendly kind of manner, like I get

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 5>awkward because it's like I think, like and it's not

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 5>even like the part of like there like like conflict

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 5>being involved. It's just like I think I might have

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 5>like attachment issues, Like I feel like all this hold.

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>On, hold on, there's just there's so much stuff here.

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You feel as though you feel as though.

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:47.480
<v Speaker 5>Sorry not make sense.

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no no no, it's I'm I'm I'm

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to understand. You feel as though talking ship is

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>this like necessary part of the the male bonding experience.

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 4>A lot of.

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 5>From what I've experienced. I guess maybe it has to

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 5>do with like a certain like crowd that I've kind

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 5>of like always been around, because like, you know, a

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 5>lot of the people that I kind of like work with,

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 5>and the people that have like you know, became friends

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 5>with each other, it's like, you know, they've gotten to

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 5>a point in their friendship where like they can like

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 5>talk shit to each other like comfortably, and it's like,

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm okay with that too, but it's like

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.240
<v Speaker 5>I start to feel like, oh, this person's like talking

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 5>shit to me now, like does that mean like we're

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 5>becoming friends? Like?

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's like that can be that there can be

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a compelling thing for some people, but you don't, Okay,

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>where are you meeting these people?

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:55.240
<v Speaker 5>Uh, I guess like coworkers, And I mean that's pretty

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 5>much like the only place where I've actually like socialize

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 5>with people nowadays, I guess is like my work place.

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you have Do you have hobbies at all?

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm really big into into making music, and I

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 5>guess I'm pretty like involved in like the local music scene,

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 5>uh somewhat.

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 4>Make fans.

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I think that's another aspect too that you know,

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 5>I've been trying to kind of be a little bit

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 5>more involved in is you know, like following my passion

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more with this whole music thing and

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, meeting other people in that community.

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Mm hm.

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 5>So I'm gonna I'm gonna try and you know, focus

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 5>on that a little bit more. But like I was

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.239
<v Speaker 5>saying earlier, you know, my schedule is just so so

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 5>busy nowadays that I can kind of only do that,

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:56.840
<v Speaker 5>like I guess, once in a great while. But you

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 5>know that time will come and that if it's like

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 5>a slow process, you know, I'm always gonna keep doing

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 5>it because I love doing music.

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm. I, Like I said, I feel like that's

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>a perfect way to do it, whether it's uh, you know,

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:16.879
<v Speaker 1>putting on shows or going to shows. Uh. I mean,

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a great that's a great hobby. I know you

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>said you're calling in for for advice on this, but

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you're you're doing a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you know, anyone you ask advice from would

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<v Speaker 1>be would tell you to do. Anyway, you have this

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<v Speaker 1>great hobby that that is conducive to a social environment.

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<v Speaker 1>What I guess what I don't I don't I'll say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this is a thing I don't with this

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<v Speaker 1>whole like talking ship like nothing is I guess not nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>but talking shit is not integral to the male friendship experience. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess like bond, I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a popular way for people to bond over each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in school. One thing that people bond over all

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<v Speaker 1>the time is mutual dislike of the same person. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a strong bonding thing. It's not a lasting one,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can be a strong bond. But you're an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, you don't need to do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just bonding over shared interests. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>you you have this music thing that that is I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like going to compel you to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a lot of people. And you know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think, I think you'll be fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I don't know what what what you're you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the main issue you're having.

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<v Speaker 5>Is Yeah, I mean I think a lot of it is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, kind of going deeper into like the whole

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<v Speaker 5>me feeling like I might I may have like attachment issues,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, feeling like it's just kind of hard

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<v Speaker 5>for me to like click to somebody in general, but

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<v Speaker 5>that may be like, you know, more of something that

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of, you know, would probably want to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to a therapist about maybe one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's Do you have a therapist.

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<v Speaker 5>As of right now? No, I've been really procrastinating on

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<v Speaker 5>trying to uh talk to one. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>as of right now, I've just been like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>staying busy with you know, what I got going on,

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<v Speaker 5>and as long as I can, uh, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 5>up with this, uh with this routine that I got

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<v Speaker 5>going on with, you know, going to the gym and working.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm actually going to be taking up a second

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<v Speaker 5>job here pretty soon as well, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll keep at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Mittie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if I if, if if this call wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as h as helpful as you wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 5>But oh no, not at all, man, Like I just

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<v Speaker 5>I really appreciate you for like having me on here,

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<v Speaker 5>and I watch your stream a lot. I work as

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<v Speaker 5>delivery drivers, so I'm on the road a lot, so

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<v Speaker 5>I get to listen to a lot of stuff. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>say your podcasts and your YouTube videos and streams are

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<v Speaker 5>probably like one of the main things that I listened to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's cool to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be on here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool to have you man, and good luck man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this. You seem like a good guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>seem like you're trying to do right by your daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and by yourself and by the world. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rooting for you and all that stuff. Man. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think, I think you're going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to define whatever it is you're looking for. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, I mean, you got a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff right in front of you, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>that to lean into.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it, man, Thank you, thank you. Can I

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<v Speaker 5>say one more thing to the people listening.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>So one of the reasons why I wanted to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of make more friends and so I could bring somebody

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<v Speaker 5>with to go see Lyle uh do his thing live

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<v Speaker 5>in Chicago. If anybody wants to go with man add

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<v Speaker 5>me on Instagram. It's our d V Underscore Lobos.

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<v Speaker 4>L O b o Z.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sold out. They can't come.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>I might add a second show, but I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know yet. But what about Milwaukee again.

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<v Speaker 5>If there's gonna be a Milwaukee one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah there, Yeah, yeah, I'm doing Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, is that one sold out?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I hope not. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it is. Yeah, come come through Milwaukee. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing the Collectivo or something like that. It looks like

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a cool venue. So listen, man, I hope to

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>see you either one of those. Don't bring your daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Come when your ex hazard.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah for sure, yay, I'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks, Hello, all right?

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<v Speaker 5>How good I mess?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So sweet? Yeah. I like that guy. He was a

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>good guy. He seemed like neurotic for sure, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a natural state for a human being to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean he sounds like he's doing right

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<v Speaker 1>by his daughter, he's doing right by himself. He's trying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the show is, mat It's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people trying, myself included, just people fucking trying the best

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<v Speaker 1>they can to do whatever it is they got to do.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless them.

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<v Speaker 5>Get goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>Everythig Cat goes doing his eight. He was teaching you

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<v Speaker 1>to houses and you're like, but he's not really an expert.