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It 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: says here that is your legal name, and it says 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: that you feel like you're becoming a caricature of yourself. 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I really do feel like I am. 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about that. 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 3: It's so my whole life. Like I didn't start out 24 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: as Will Smith. Like my family kind of raised me 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: his Billity. That's what I'm still called at home. And 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: then like sometime in like first second grade, one of 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: my teachers going to call me Will Smith, and it 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: kind of just stuck. My whole life. I've been Will 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: Smith just like because it's funny. You know, I have 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: the same name as the actor. And as my life 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: has progressed, people have just like come to know me 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: as Will Smith. And it's kind of been like a 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: easy slot for like getting into things or talking to 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: people and all, like it's made so very easy. It's 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: always a good ice breaker. But I'm I'm a bit 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: of a character. I just I don't know, I'm a 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: weird fucking guy. Curse is that? 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: Okay? 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: What am I allowed to curse? 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I know it is not my podcast. M Why do 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: you feel like you're a weird guy? No? 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: No, I've never had to take things too seriously or 43 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: I've never felt the need to anyway. Yeah, I guess 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: I'm just like my life in general, I just think 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: it's more important to like have fun while doing the 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: things that are important. So it kind of led to 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: me just kind of having this weird philosophy of getting 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: things done however I need to no matter how strange 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: it may seem. And you know, I like just say 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: funny things, do funny things. I'm known on my campus 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: as also the rollers guy, and it's kind of just 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: like become a second persona along with that because I'm 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: always wearing them. 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: So tell me more about like why why this? I mean, 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: why does this seem like a negative thing for you? 56 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: It's become like an especially negative thing in like the 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: last few years because it's just like it's just like 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: it sounds really stupid. It's really annoying when people come 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: up to you and ask about the slap eight times 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: a day that happened at the Oscars. 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of, Uh that as soon as that happened 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: and will Smith started trending, you must have been shaken 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: in your boats, Like, fuck, this is gonna be everything 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: everyone says to me for the next five years. 65 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: Yes, and it has continued to be. It was the 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: it was the weirdest thing because, like, you know, the day, 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: the two days following that stupid thing, like every person 68 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: I've ever known has like texted me about that because 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: they thought it was Hi. And as time went on, 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: random people that I haven't spoken to in years, you know, 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: from high schools, like old friends, the text me like 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: three months later and say so, how about that flat 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: And it is just kind of persistent. 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 75 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's. 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: Just like a strange thing that I've endured, I guess, 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: And it's uh, it's kind of weird dealing with this 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: thing that has like become part of my identity even 79 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: though I don't want it to be. 80 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: M hm hmm. 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: What would you like your identity to be? Uh? 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: Just Will, I guess. And I've like in the last 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: few months, like coming back to school, you know, for 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: like the new school year and stuff. Not that I 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: ever like, I mean, I did introduce myself with Will 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: Smith quite a bit back in the day, but like 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: now I'm kind of just trying to be Will. But 88 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: the name persists because all it takes is a professor 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: reading my name on the thing on the agenda, I guess, 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: to connect the dots, and that's what everyone knows me 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: as already. 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. Okay, what's your life like outside 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: of being Will Smith? 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: Uh, it's honestly very good. I think that I live 95 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: a very good life, and it's just like because I've 96 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: tried my best to make it good. You know, lots 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: of friends and you know, good environment. Nick, who you 98 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: just spoke to, one of my best friends here at school. Ah, 99 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: it's funny. We're not We're like on other ends of 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: campus right now, mhm. But everywhere I go it's always 101 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: been Will Smith, Will Smith, Will Smith, and. 102 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: It's always like like, no, I want to let you 103 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: finish real quick. 104 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: It's it's like a lot of people seem to don't 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: actually care what I'm like. They just think it's funny 106 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: that I'm Will Smith, and that is really like started 107 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: to affect me in the last year or two. 108 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 109 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: What do you wish people know about you? 110 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: Like I just think that, like, like the things I 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: do on a daily basis don't need to be sort 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: of put under this category of being a character because 114 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: I have a funny name, you know, if that makes 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: any sense at all. 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: So you're you're starting to feel like a one dimensional 117 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: being and not like an actual person. 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: Yes, Like I guess, I guess like this is a 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: pretty good instance of it. Like I'll go over to 120 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: my little friend's door him and then like all of 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: her roommates will start like yelling Will Smith. And if 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: they have people over, they go, oh my god, that's 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Will Smith. And they don't really care who I am. 124 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: They just care about the name. 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: M What do you wish people saw within you? 126 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. Just Will be the person that wants 127 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: to talk to everybody, have a conversation with everybody, gets 128 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: to know somebody. I think it's important. It's just like 129 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: on a daily basis, just be that person that will 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: go up to somebody and start a conversation. Just be 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: there for somebody. And I am. I feel like I 132 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: am that to a lot of people. But it has 133 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: gotten to a point where a lot of people just 134 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: don't care about my personal attributes. 135 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: I feel like. 136 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: You said, used to go by Billy, right, Yeah, but. 137 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: I haven't in probably fifteen years. 138 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Would you consider changing your name. 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: To Billy anything. 140 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: Or just in general? 141 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wouldn't start going by Billy again just 142 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: because my friend group back home, you know, my best friends, 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: we already have a Billy in the group. But uh, 144 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about once I graduate and head 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: out on my own, to change my last name to 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: my h name on my mother's side, Romeo, in honor 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: of like my grandfather, because he was one of the 148 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: most important people in my life. 149 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: Will Romeo, what do you. 150 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: Think of that? 151 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: I like that. 152 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: I think it's fun, it's good of my string to it, 153 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: but like genuinely more important to me. It's just like 154 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 3: keeping that name going. I'm the only boy in my family. 155 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: I have three older sisters and the only other Romeos 156 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: that a guy are, you know, fifteen hours away down south? 157 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Do you identify more with Romeo than with Smith? 158 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 159 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: I am. I very much associate with the name Smith 160 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: because both sides of my family have stuck around back home. 161 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: I have a very large family that I love very much, 162 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: and they're all very supportive. So it's not like it's 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: not like I'm changing my name just from the kind 164 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: of like side with one side of the family. I 165 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: do love the Smith's side of my family very much. 166 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: I have to ask you something. It says here that 167 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: you were in the queue the other day but you 168 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: had to hang up because there was an active shooter 169 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: in your dorm. 170 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: No, okay, so there was a there was a email 171 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: that went out our school was veried ineffective at relaying 172 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: information to us. So we had heard like like people 173 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: were just like texting rumblings about a threat in one 174 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: of the complexes. I was not there. I was in 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: the studio, which I am right now actually doing some 176 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: artwork a monitor tonight. But these schools sent out an 177 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: email about a potential threat. So I hung up the 178 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: phone so I could figure out what the heck was 179 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: going on and like do something about it if I 180 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: needed to. 181 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: So that was a funny way. I'm glad you're all right. 182 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the threat was apparently taking care of like immediately, 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: but the school had no proper life precautions in place. 184 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: I guess, like, well, apparently we had cops on campus 185 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: with Bryant shields, and the only information we had was 186 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: a very poorly worded femail address to each student about 187 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: a police investigation. So it was almost appearing as if 188 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: we were under investigation. 189 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: You know what, you know, you know what would have 190 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: made you a legend? What is if there was an 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: active shooter and you went up to him and slapped him. 192 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: That's actually pretty funny. 193 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: Let's see, Will any final thoughts, feelings, sentiments on your 194 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: name being Will Smith that that you that you want 195 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: to share with us. 196 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: Most of my life it was, it was a strange blessing. 197 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: And then just as I've gotten older, it's just not 198 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: the person I want to be anymore. And I just 199 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: think that like it's important as like I'm twenty, it's 200 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: important as I kind of it's just twenty in my life, 201 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: where like I'm getting ready to graduate and hopefully move 202 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: out on my own. But I'm the person I want 203 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: to be, and then I have the opportunity to start 204 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: fresh if I need to. I think that everybody should 205 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: have that. 206 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Well, Well, thank you very much for calling and sharing, 207 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoy your new life, as will Romeo. 208 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, mister Ghek. 209 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 4: Take care man, have a good night. 210 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: Take care. Hello. Hello, Hi, who is this? 211 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: This is Robert Johnson. 212 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: Hi, Robert Johnson. What's going on with you? 213 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: Well, so I have a bit of a revenge story 214 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: to tell, and I'm not too sure if I should 215 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: feel guilty about what I gave it if I took 216 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: it too far. Not okay, it's nothing like Super Dark 217 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: or anything. I didn't. I didn't do anything too crazy. Well, 218 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: I guess chat will decide that. 219 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Well, no, but well, you know that's up. You know, 220 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: only God can judge. I think I don't know what's up? 221 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: What did you do? 222 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: Tell us? 223 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Tell us what happens. 224 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: Well, so a bit of a backstory and I'll try 225 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: not to make it too depressing or anything, you know. 226 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: During during lockdown in twenty twenty, I got myself a 227 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: German Shepherd puppy to help with the depression I was 228 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: going through and everything. Yeah, and I wasn't aware that 229 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: she had a tarvo. It's a it's a really aggressive, 230 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: deadly disease towards dogs. We only got to have her 231 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,479 Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks before I had to unfortunately 232 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: put her down. But you know, that sucks, but at 233 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: least I gave her the best couple of weeks I 234 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: possibly could have given her. Sure, Sure, So after I 235 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: put her down, I came back home to the apartment 236 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: I was sharing with one of my friends. He's not 237 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: my friend anymore, that's for sure, but he had went 238 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 4: into my room. He took some stuff out of there, 239 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: and I confronted him about it. We got into a 240 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: bit of a tussle and he decided to call the 241 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: cops on me, and he told the police that I 242 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: pointed a gun at him, that I had wed in 243 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: the basement. Well, I never did that. If I did, 244 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: i'd absolutely be locked up right now. But the apartment complex, 245 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: after everything got situated, they decided that they were going 246 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: to kick me out of the apartment, even after the 247 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 4: whole police report and everything went through. Because the other 248 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: guy lived there longer, they decided that I wasn't going 249 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: to be the one that got to stay. And you know, 250 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: that's fair enough. He was there like a year before me, 251 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: So I guess that makes sense. 252 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: But the dog does the dog? Is that have anything 253 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: to do with this roommate situation? 254 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: Kind of? Sort of? It was just he was being 255 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: a real dick, like he knew where I was. He 256 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: he knew I was on edge because I just lost 257 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: the I just spent a lot of money on the dog, 258 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: and then I had about one thousand dollars worth of 259 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: VET bills that I had to pay and I, you know, 260 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: dog just died, and so he knew he knew all 261 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: that was going on. I'm not too sure what, Oh, 262 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: go ahead. 263 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: All right? So what I I guess I still don't 264 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: understand what exactly you guys were fighting about he took 265 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: stuff from your room and you confronted. 266 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Him about it. So he when I was gone that night, 267 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: he went into my room and he took he took 268 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: one of my Xbox controllers and one of my chairs, 269 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: and I just went up to and I was like, hey, man, like, 270 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: don't go into my room. You know, I was. I 271 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: was much more angry than what I'm letting on right now. Again, 272 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: I was on I was on edge, and so confronted 273 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: him and I pushed him, and he was like, I'm 274 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: calling the police on you. And so that's uh, it 275 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: was me and him getting into a bit of a 276 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: physical altercation after everything happened. That he was just that 277 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: that's just kind of how everything went down after I 278 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: got home. And to be fair, I wasn't in the 279 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: best date of mine. I absolutely could have handled it 280 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: better if I needed to. But uh, after they told 281 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: me that I was going to have to move out, 282 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: they were like, so, since you're the one moving out, 283 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: we're going to give you a couple of days. They 284 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: asked the roommate if he could leave for a couple 285 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: of days, go spend h spend some time at a 286 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: friend's house, just so I could pack everything up, you know, 287 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: get out of there, like I need to. Yeah, And 288 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: uh so I guess the real important part, the next part, 289 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: the reason I did what I did. Afterwards, So when 290 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: he called the police on me, this was probably two 291 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: or three days after the whole George Floyd incident. So 292 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: I had been seeing everything that was happening on the news. 293 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: You know. This was like one am at night, like 294 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: I had just gotten home driving back from that and 295 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: all that. And so when he tells him that I 296 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: was plenty a gun at him, I had four officers, 297 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: you know, coming to my apartment, you know, guns pointed 298 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: at me. I was like, you know, I thought I 299 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: was gonna die. And that was a real I thought 300 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: I thought I was dead, you know. I my life 301 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: really flashed before my eyes when all of that happened. Okay, 302 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: And so after everything got situated, you know, the police 303 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: were like, well, this was clearly a bullshit call. We 304 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: got for some for no reason. This was very much 305 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: a waste of time. And so I decided, you know, 306 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: I did. I decided I was gonna I couldn't, you know, 307 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: destroy his property. I wasn't gonna break any type of 308 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: laws or anything like that. I'm not going to go 309 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 4: out slashing tires or anything like that. But what I 310 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 4: did end up doing is over the course of two days, 311 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: I used a Jada Stevens, anal masturbator, and I collected 312 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: all of the lube and come from it over the 313 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: course of two days. And I preceded it to smear everything. 314 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: I poured it into his Xbox vent. He had like 315 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 4: a four hundred dollars night set. I sneered it all 316 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: over there on his towels, everything that that asshole owned. 317 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: I made sure that it had just come in lube everywhere. 318 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: I made sure there are a couple of cubes in there. 319 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I and no one else knows about this 320 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: except for the gap anyone that's hearing it right now. 321 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: This is the first time I've ever come out to 322 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: say anything about it. And you know, I feel like 323 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: I was justified in what I did, because you don't 324 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 4: just tell the cops. This guy pointed a guy at 325 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: me without the intense of trying to get that person shot. 326 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 4: You know, you don't just lie about something like that, 327 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: you know, I felt like he really genuinely put my 328 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: life at risk, and so I decided I just everything 329 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: he owned everything. I did it as much as over 330 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: the course of two days. And I guess, really what 331 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: I'm am I piece of shit for doing that? Or 332 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 4: was it you know, kind of deserved for doing that 333 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: for someone? 334 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: Okay, how did he respond? Because I he eventually how 335 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: does he know? 336 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 4: Ol on? 337 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: Okay, did you just do this? 338 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: No? This was this was in two thousand and twenty, 339 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: this was this is quite this was like three years 340 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: you know, this was? 341 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: So how does he not know? Wouldn't he if you 342 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: spread come on everything he owns? How would he not 343 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: realize it? 344 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: Well, I presume he wouldn't just go around sniffing his 345 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 4: nice checking for a cumbsmell. I mean, I know, I 346 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: certainly don't go around my apartment making sure people aren't 347 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: coming on things. I guess I never really thought about that. 348 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so you came in the event of his xbox? 349 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: You came? Did you come on his clothes? 350 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: Like? 351 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: What all? Did you come on? 352 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: I didn't go into his room, but we had a 353 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: laundry unit in the hallway, and I just got anything 354 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 4: that was in there. I just kind of drizzled it 355 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: over like it was chocolate syrup over ice cream. Again, 356 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: I collected over the course of two days. Like I 357 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: put it into this little bowl, but I just kind 358 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: of let sit there. And I know that sounds that's 359 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: absolutely discussing. It sounds horrible. 360 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: How much coum did you put it? Because it's it's 361 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: hard to I mean, that's like a lot of. 362 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: Coun Well, so it wasn't all just come you got. 363 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: I I was using the lube for the masturbader, so 364 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: I would ring it out and collect the lube and come. 365 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: So I was probably I think I jerked off probably 366 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: three or four times over each day over the course 367 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: of the two days, to make sure I had enough 368 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: to do what I wanted. 369 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you kind of diluted a little bit of 370 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: the come with the loop to make it like a loob. 371 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a horse. I'm not I'm not pumping 372 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: out gallons at a time. I'm I'm no Johnny Sin 373 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 374 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So he really didn't notice at all. 375 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: Well, so I had. As soon as I did that, 376 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: I moved out like the next morning, and I just 377 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: haven't had contacts with him. So if he maybe he 378 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: does know, maybe not. I haven't seen the guy for 379 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 4: almost two and a half years. 380 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, so let me can I ask you this then? Yeah, 381 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: because here's the thing. If your intention in smearing come 382 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: over everything that this guy owns is to see the 383 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: look on his face when he realizes it, then what 384 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: was the point If he never found out, And if 385 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: he did find out, then that's probably to further antagonize you. 386 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: It's like a guilty pleasure knowing I'm the only one 387 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: that knows that I did it, you know, because if 388 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: I were to tell him I did that, I don't 389 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: know if there's legal repercussions connected to that. There might be, 390 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: there might not. And I again, I was trying to 391 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: make sure that I, you know, I'm not going to 392 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: get you know, taken to court for you know, doing 393 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: anything crazy like that. 394 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: And so you don't know whether or not they're legal 395 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: repercussions for jizzing on somebody's stuff. 396 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, if is there is there laws 397 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: against that? Is there any laws that prevent me from 398 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: doing that? 399 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: Probably? 400 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: Well that's news to me. 401 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: I mean all right, if so, listen, listen, listen back 402 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: to your central question. Am I am I the asshole 403 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: for spreading cum? 404 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: Yeah's? Am I a piece of shit? For what? I did. 405 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you a question in your 406 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: heart ultimately, do you believe you're twenty two years old? Okay, 407 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: you're somewhat of an adult. Okay, I like, Okay, you're an 408 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: intelligent enough guy. I can tell in your heart of hearts, Robert, 409 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: do you really believe that's the best way to handle 410 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: conflict is to jiz on the other person's stuff. 411 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with a negative stark man, I'm gonna 412 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: say that is a probably not the way you want 413 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 4: to handle things. 414 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: It's probably not the way you want to handle things. Now, 415 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: is there in your mind? If you could go back 416 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: turn the clocks, how would you have handled that situation differently? 417 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: I would hm, Oh, that's uh. You know, I'm really 418 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: not too sure because a lot of a lot has 419 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: happened then, and I know for a matter of fact, 420 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: I wasn't in the state of mind. But if I 421 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't if I was, if I had the state of 422 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 4: mind I have today, I probably feel a lot more 423 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: guilty about it, but I probably still do it. I'm 424 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: not gonna lie. I feel a lot more guilt, but 425 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: I would probably still do it. 426 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Why would you still do it? I mean look, it's 427 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: three years ago, right, Like what why? 428 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: Why? 429 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Why does why does the anger continue to bubble within 430 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: you and you know, spurred out. 431 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: Of you because, oh god, you call me off guard 432 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: with that one. You know, it really comes down just 433 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: to the fact that, you know, I thought I was 434 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: gonna die. 435 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: That's it. 436 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: That was a you know, four police officers pointing guns 437 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 4: at you while you're crying, like the whole I was 438 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 4: on the phone with the UH with the operator. I 439 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 4: was calling him. I was like, hey, well, I am 440 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: not a crazy person. I do not have a firearm. 441 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: You know, I take that. I don't think that's not something. 442 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would take that lightly, you know. 443 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 4: And sure maybe he was just trying to ensure that 444 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 4: the police would come or whatever. But just the way 445 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: he said he has a gun, he pointed at me, 446 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 4: and he has weed in the basement. It's it's it's malicious. 447 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: I feel like, you don't just do that for no reason. 448 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: He can I ask you a question, absolutely, did you 449 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: pull out your penis and threatened to come on him 450 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: and he interpreted that as a gun? 451 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: No, my, my, my penis is far too small to 452 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: be interpreted as a firearm. 453 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to make sure, so listen. My 454 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: my official stance on this is that I don't think 455 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: that you coming on all this man's belongings is going 456 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: to really do anything productive for the situation. I don't 457 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: think any conflict resolution experts or real therapists would say otherwise. 458 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: Because it makes you feel good, makes you feel good. Yeah, 459 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: but I mean a that just sounds like it was 460 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: a lot of work for nothing. 461 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was sor the second. 462 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: Day rough, So I look at the end of the day. Revenge, 463 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's a poison that attacks the person who 464 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: does the jizzy as well as the person who is 465 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: just gone. Do you agree with this? 466 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 4: I yeah, I agree everything you've said so far. The 467 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: more you the more you talk, the more I look 468 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: back and realize how bad it is. Yeah. 469 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: If I heard this story and I was a person 470 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: that you were going to room with in the future, 471 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I would probably change my mind about rooming with you. 472 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: But would you say it wasn't well? Was it not 473 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: justified to retaliate after something like that? 474 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 6: Though? 475 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Retaliation it's an interesting thing. I don't know. I think 476 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: about this a lot. Actually, I really do well, that's 477 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: all a lot of wars start. I think it's retaliation. 478 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, I don't know 479 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: it's This is an interesting philosophical question being posed by 480 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: you talking about whether or not it was a good 481 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: decision to come on your roommate's xbox. Retaliation is interesting 482 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: because I don't know to what degree it is helpful 483 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: At a certain point. It really can only heighten conflict. Further, 484 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't really solve anything. It is a gut impulse 485 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: that only serves the moment. It doesn't really do anything 486 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: productive for any party. That's how I feel about it. 487 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: But would you say I hurt anyone doing these actions? 488 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Well, you just told me that your penis was sore. 489 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: Well, besides me, I knew what I knew what the 490 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: cost of what I was about to do. It was 491 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: a small price. 492 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: To My official stance on this is going to be 493 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: that I think you should find healthier coping mechanisms. 494 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 4: Yep, I agree. I think you're a wise man. I agree. 495 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me what you're gonna do next time something 496 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: like this happens. 497 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: Well, hopefully it never happens again. Fortunately I live with 498 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: some pretty cool dudes, right now. But if something were 499 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: like that's ever happened again, hopefully I'd be mature enough 500 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: to just grow up and be like, all right, whatever, 501 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: I got the shit end of the stick. You know, 502 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: I guess it could be worse. I guess I would 503 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: just try to look at it in a more positive light. 504 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 4: I guess, you know, just not try to obviously. You know, 505 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: if something like that happens, it's gonna suck. It's gonna 506 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: bother me. But you know, I'm a grown ass man 507 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 4: at this point. I could probably if something like that 508 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: were to happen now, I would definitely handle it different. 509 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: You know, I was, I was twenty years old. I 510 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: was depressed. I was day drinking. You know, that was 511 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 4: just what you could do during lockdown. You know, I 512 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: was definitely not in a right state of mind. But 513 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: right now I would say absolutely I would handle it 514 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: much differently. 515 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: So anything you want to say to the people of 516 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: the computer before we. 517 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: Go, hopefully you guys don't think them too much of 518 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: a freak, you're too much of a bad person. I 519 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: hope this was interesting. I hope you guys have a 520 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: good night. I appreciate you giving me the time to 521 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: talk to. 522 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: You you too, Robert tick care. 523 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: You have a good one. 524 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Wow, that was almost a twenty minute call about jizzing 525 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: on a roommate's xbox? Was Robert justified? Like what? Here's 526 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: the thing? What has justification ever really done for anyone? 527 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: Would he be justified in a court of law? Probably not? 528 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: But also I don't know if there is a law 529 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: that says that you can't jack off onto your roommate's xbox. 530 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: But also they're almost certainly is. Let's take another phone call. Hello, Hello, 531 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: how are you? 532 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 7: I'm good? 533 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: You know. 534 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Kaylee? It says your name is. 535 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 4: Yes. 536 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: How can I get you this evening? Kaylee? 537 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. Well, I just kind of wanted to 538 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 7: tell a story, I guess, get your thoughts on it or. 539 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what what happens? 540 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: Well? 541 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: I am. 542 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 7: A few years back I found out that I had 543 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 7: a biological sister on my mom's side, half sister, and 544 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 7: we had been kind of talking for a few years 545 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 7: a little bit, and then I finally spent a weekend 546 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 7: with her for Halloween to do something and it was 547 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 7: just kind of like a really weird, bad experience, And 548 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 7: I don't really know what kind of relationship I want 549 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 7: or should have with her anymore. 550 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: Okay, what made the experience so bad, Well, she when. 551 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 7: We were talking is when she like initially hit me up, 552 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 7: she was very obviously like excited to meet me, calling 553 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 7: me on PRINSIPI and that has stayed away like trying 554 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 7: to get very close very quickly, which was like pretty 555 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 7: you know. I was like into that a little bit. 556 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 7: But then when I went there, she just like. 557 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 6: Didn't talk to me the whole time and was like 558 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 6: on the phone with people, like calling people the whole 559 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 6: time I was there, Like there was really not a 560 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 6: word spoken between the two of us. And then also 561 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 6: like she was kind of like I felt kind of 562 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 6: like a show pony, like an accessory almost. She was 563 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 6: showing me like off to everyone, like I was on 564 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 6: like a tour of meeting every single person in her life. 565 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: And she kept doing. 566 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 7: This thing where she was introducing me as her sister 567 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 7: and like she's just like me, but she's a stoner, 568 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 7: which is like. 569 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: Weird. 570 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 7: I don't like being called that. I don't like people 571 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 7: saying that about me to other people. I don't know, 572 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 7: she's just a I didn't like that, and thing she 573 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 7: just wasn't really present, so. 574 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: She was on the phone all the time. She was 575 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: like showing you around as like she's like me, but 576 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: she's a stoner, weird vibe all around, and you are 577 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: here debating whether or not you should have a relationship 578 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: with her not. 579 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't really necessarily want to cut her off. 580 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 4: I just. 581 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 7: She's still like now that I'm not there, like she's 582 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 7: still doing that thing, or she's just like texting me 583 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 7: and being like wanting to see me and spend extended 584 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 7: time with me, And I just like kind of want 585 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 7: to let her know that I don't want to do that, 586 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 7: but I don't really know how to say it. I 587 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 7: guess like I want to do some of the time, 588 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 7: I wanted to be like a plan. I guess I 589 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 7: don't want to just like stay with her or do 590 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 7: anything like that. 591 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is hard. I don't have like the greatest 592 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: solution of like how do you because I mean, yes, 593 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: this person's your half sister, But to me, the familial 594 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: aspect of this is is there relevant really? Because what 595 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: does that really even dictates? Right? Absolutely? 596 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 7: I didn't know twenty years. 597 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, by the way, even if she was 598 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: your blood sister, what does that really dictate what is that? Well, yeah, 599 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, she's your bud sister, but well, I 600 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: guess to say, I guess what I meant to say 601 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: is even if she was in your life? Blah blah, 602 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Like what really does dictate whether or not we should 603 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: have relationships with people? 604 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 4: Like? 605 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: I don't even like that word should, like good by, 606 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: no please. 607 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 7: It's just weird for me because I was kind of 608 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 7: raised as an only child that I've never had a 609 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 7: sibling before, and pretty much everyone I know has like 610 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 7: close relationships excuse me, relationships with their siblings. So I 611 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 7: just feel like it's something I want, you know, but 612 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 7: it just doesn't feel great when I'm doing it. 613 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: I think the idea that you're being compelled by an 614 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: illusion of what having a sister might be like or 615 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: your friends' experiences with their siblings is not compelling to me. 616 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: And with the limited amount of time that you have 617 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, in a day, in a week, 618 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: and a month and a year and a life, you 619 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: should really only be spending it with people who you 620 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: give you give a fuck about who you want to 621 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: be spending time with, you know, Yeah. 622 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 7: I care a lot about people, know, So it's like 623 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 7: even if it's not someone important to me. I just 624 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 7: care about their feelings a lot, And you know what. 625 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: That's sweet of you. And I think to a point 626 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: that's a good trait to have, and it becomes a 627 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: bad trait to have. I think, you know, there's various 628 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: opinions about this, but when it starts to like come 629 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: at like a detriment to you, you know, like your 630 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: time is limited, your time is valuable. You don't want 631 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: to spend it with somebody who you don't fucking like 632 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: being around. 633 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, like a waste of time? 634 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And it's hard. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a 635 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: whole weekend, and afterwards you do feel like it's I mean, 636 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this was a waste of time, this 637 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: initial meeting, because you satisfied a curiosity you had, so 638 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that a waste of time. M hm, 639 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: that's true. But yeah, this is hard. I don't know 640 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: how to like break how do you break up with 641 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: a friend? 642 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 4: You break up with like. 643 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 7: It's weird because I didn't know her for twenty years, 644 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 7: but she knew about me the entire time, and like 645 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 7: would write these letters to me but not send them. 646 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 7: But then like gave them all to me, like it 647 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 7: was like she put a lot on me all at once, 648 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 7: and then like I was there and it was like, 649 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 7: why did she even invite me? 650 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 4: It was weird. 651 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: Listen, I no tell me what you're gonna say. No 652 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: you first, I wouldn't blame you if you chose to 653 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: just be a little bit less available. You don't necessarily, 654 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't to what, Listen, I don't. I don't know. 655 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on this. To what degree you 656 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: need to send some long paragraph of I felt like this, 657 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: and I felt like that, and because of that, I 658 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with you. I don't know. 659 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: You know that's something you feel compelled to do it. 660 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you for doing that either. But if 661 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: you just want to kind of not be available when 662 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: she asks you to hang out, she's just. 663 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 7: Like it wasn't like fun, that it wasn't like enjoyable 664 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 7: at all. But I don't even know if it's supposed 665 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 7: to be enjoyable to have a sibling hand spend time 666 00:38:59,640 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 7: with them. 667 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: I think I think if you're taking time to go 668 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: be with someone, I think it should be enjoyable. 669 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, But you're right. 670 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's worth like a whole paragraph 671 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 7: or anything. I don't I don't think. 672 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 5: I don't. 673 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you have to do a whole 674 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: last paragraph. I think being less available and I think 675 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying myself. I'm trying myself lately to be more 676 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: intentional about who I am, like spending time with and 677 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: ship because you could, you could waste a lot of time, 678 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: like you know, being with people you don't want to 679 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: be around. 680 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 7: So true, just because I feel like I have to 681 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 7: be around them. 682 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm. But yeah, I guess. I guess 683 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: the the sort of solution to this is to be 684 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: a little bit less available and try not to beat 685 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: yourself up for the I know that you're a part you. 686 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: You are very intact with other people's feelings, and it's 687 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: scary the idea that you're going to hurt them. But 688 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: at a certain point you can't try to. You can 689 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: try your best to cater to everyone, but you'll fall 690 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: short if you try. 691 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, why I disappoint myself? 692 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: That's so true, Kaylee's anything else you want to say 693 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: to the people of the computer, or to me or 694 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: to God before we go. 695 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, all those people. I want to shout 696 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 7: out my friend Jade, she's the coolest and the best, 697 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 7: and she asked me to do that and thank you 698 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 7: so much. I love you. I was like just getting 699 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 7: into bed and heard your voice and the best. 700 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: Have sweet dreams of of of being Oh that too, Yeah, 701 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's a tough thing. I 702 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: don't know how to do that. I don't know how 703 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: to break up with a friends because, like the if 704 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: you're playing it by the fucking books and you're you're 705 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent in life, whatever it is, maybe 706 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: you would be sending long paragraphs. But I don't I 707 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessary in every situation. Uh maybe 708 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: it's just easier to, you know, bread crumb yourself away, 709 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: if that's what you feel like you gotta do. 710 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Hi, Oh wow, I'm a little bit boozled 711 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 5: right now. 712 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: You feel band boozled? 713 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 4: Man? 714 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: How do you in what way? Ben boozled? 715 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 5: Well, it's been about like an hour I've been waiting 716 00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 5: and I'm actually on Wow. I was almost to lose hope, but. 717 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: Well, bamboozled, bamboo, do you know what bamboozled means. 718 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 5: See, I wasn't even sure if I used that and 719 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 5: the correct uh in the correct way. 720 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: You didn't. But that's okay unless if you, I mean 721 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: bamboozled means tricked, do you feel tricked? 722 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 723 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 5: I totally didn't use that in the correct uh in 724 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 5: the correct way. 725 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: But can I I want to say this. I want 726 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: to say this the way that you used it few 727 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: like sounds more appropriate, like bamboozled used it to mean 728 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: like surprised. 729 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 730 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the nature of the word bamboozle sounds a little 731 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: more like, uh, like a zany surprise wacky thing than like, 732 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: you know, like like a trick or a scheme. Actually, know, 733 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: it does sound a little it does. It does sound 734 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: a little schemy. I'll give you that. I guess. I 735 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm not. I guess that's not giving you something. Are 736 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: you fucking around now with the cups in your kitchen? 737 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 4: Oh? 738 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 5: No, that was actually my my daughter. She was playing 739 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 5: with her toy microphone stand. And yeah, she's just chilling 740 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 5: right now, watching her show, watching some doc mix stuff ins. 741 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 5: And right now we're just kicking it, you know, we're vibing, 742 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 5: enjoying our Sunday night. 743 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: So middie, how can I have bamboozle used today? 744 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 5: Okay, So lately I've been wanting to, I guess, become 745 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 5: a little bit more socially active. I'm not really gonna 746 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 5: say that I'm much of a homebody, but besides kind 747 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 5: of like just going to work and I guess like 748 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 5: going to the gym after after work once in a while. 749 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 5: I really just, you know, stay home a lot. 750 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: I don't really. 751 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 5: Hang out a lot with friends or I'm not like 752 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 5: seeing anybody at the moment. But I'm starting to feel like, 753 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 5: you know, maybe I should try to kind of get 754 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 5: out there a little bit more and you know, try 755 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 5: to do what humans do and you know, socialize. And yeah, 756 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: I was thinking maybe I could, uh, you know, perhaps 757 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 5: get some insight from the get. 758 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: Okay, a little bit of advice. Well, I mean, you've 759 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: got a lot going on. You have you have a daughter. 760 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: Do you can ask are you is your is the 761 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: the the mother? What's your relationship with her? 762 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 5: So we actually were engaged. We broke up about a 763 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 5: year and two months, year and three months ago, and 764 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 5: that's actually something that I'm not really one hundred percent 765 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 5: over yet. So after the breakup, we were we remained 766 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 5: really good friends for about a year and so basically 767 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 5: what happened is, like, you know, one day she kind 768 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 5: of just like stopped talking to me. She blocked me 769 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 5: off of all social media, and you know what ended 770 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 5: up happening was she she was talking to somebody else, 771 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 5: and you know, right now it's gotten to a point where, like, 772 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 5: you know, they've become serious, they moved in with each other, 773 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 5: and it's something that like I'm not like salty about 774 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 5: really because I knew it was coming eventually. I knew 775 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 5: there was going to have to, you know, become a 776 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 5: day where we were gonna have to like, you know, 777 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 5: move on. But you know, she was just kind of 778 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 5: like my other half. So it's like, you know, I 779 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 5: guess I'm just kind of like in the process of, 780 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 5: you know, trying to get over that whole thing. I 781 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 5: think for the most part though, I've kind of gotten 782 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 5: over it. I guess, what. 783 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: Is her relationship with your daughter? How do you how 784 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 1: do you guys manage your daughter together? 785 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 5: So me and her, we actually we're still on pretty 786 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 5: like good terms. I guess, you know, when it comes 787 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 5: to like communications, we we do everything like organically, we've 788 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 5: managed to come up with a like schedule to where 789 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 5: we kind of get her like fifty to fifty and 790 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 5: like exchange weekends. 791 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, she's really she's really killing it with tour 792 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: with that toy microphone. 793 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. Sorry, you probably hear her in the background. 794 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: She sounds like, uh, she sounds like Boo from Monsters, Inc. 795 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 5: You know what. I feel like, she probably resembles her 796 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 5: quite a bit. 797 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: Funny. I'm so okay, so this is interesting. So I mean, 798 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: all right, you're divorce, so you got like half the 799 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: time where you got to hunk her down and be 800 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: a dad, but then another half the time where you're 801 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: just kind of on your own and living a regular life. 802 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: And now we're trying to figure out, okay, with that 803 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: half the time that we're now with our kid, how 804 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: can we make more of a life for ourselves. 805 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Well, in the middle of me waiting, I 806 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 5: was actually on Bumble's been trying to uh, you know, 807 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 5: kind of mess around with that. I just started using 808 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 5: that about a few days ago. And sorry, go. 809 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: Ahead, no, you go ahead. I I gotta learn that people. 810 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean that's been going Uh, I'm not 811 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 5: gonna say it's been going good, but hasn't really been 812 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 5: going bad because like I feel like, you know, with 813 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 5: me like just starting to be coming this whole like 814 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 5: dating scene thing. You know, I'm not really at the 815 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 5: point where I can, you know, feel confident with like 816 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 5: trying to appeal to somebody. And yeah, I guess like 817 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 5: that's kind of another thing too, is like trying to 818 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 5: you know, really increase my confidence. 819 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 820 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: But that's the way I just thinking about it. Sometimes 821 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: it is helpful to interrupt people, but so many I 822 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: want to know in the dating universe when you're on 823 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: the bumbles, is it is it tough to find somebody 824 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: who's cool with you having a kid? 825 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 5: To be honest, I haven't really found that out yet 826 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 5: because it's been like such a short time that have 827 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 5: been on here. And I mean usually, you know, most 828 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 5: of the girls that I've talked to like don't really 829 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 5: have a problem with it. I think part of it 830 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 5: might have to do with the fact that my daughters 831 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 5: like very adorable and in a way I feel like, 832 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 5: you know, some girls might like gravitate towards that and 833 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 5: think like, Okay, this guy can create like, you know, 834 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 5: cute babies. So but me, from my experience, you know, 835 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 5: from my experience, I feel like, you know, obviously there's 836 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 5: gonna be those people that you know are not okay 837 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 5: with it, you know, the people that you know want 838 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 5: to be out live life, go go clubbing maybe. But yeah, 839 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 5: I guess I'm you know, what I'm trying to find 840 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 5: right now is just someone I can kind of like 841 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 5: settle down with, you know, maybe want to play the 842 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 5: stepmother role eventually. 843 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 4: M hmm. 844 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: Do you okay? So for for friendship, uh do you 845 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: do you not have a lot of like just normal 846 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: platonic friends. 847 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that I really have like any like 848 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 5: ride or die kind of friends. I mean, I have 849 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 5: like a lot of acquaintances. It's just that I feel 850 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 5: like I'm very like awkward when it comes to like 851 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 5: getting like close to somebody. I'm the type of person 852 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 5: that will like hang out with their parents a lot, 853 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 5: and like with my brothers and stuff, which I'm grateful 854 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 5: to have them in my life, you know, so I 855 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 5: guess the like could be worse. But yeah, outside of that, 856 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 5: you know, I got like buddies that I'll uh talk 857 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 5: to once in a while. But yeah, not really a 858 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 5: whole lot of like you know, super great friends outside 859 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,919 Speaker 5: of family, co workers. 860 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: What do you do to try to make friends? 861 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 5: See, I'm right now, I'm at the point where I 862 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 5: don't really know. 863 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm kind of interd like. 864 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 5: I don't really no, I guess like I'll kind of 865 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 5: give you an example of like why I feel like 866 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 5: I have a hard time with developing relationships. Like I 867 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 5: feel like a lot of what like making friends of 868 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 5: the guy is is like when you almost like try 869 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 5: and like talk shit with somebody, and it's like I 870 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 5: feel like when somebody like tries to like talk shit 871 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 5: in like a friendly kind of manner, like I get 872 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 5: awkward because it's like I think, like and it's not 873 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 5: even like the part of like there like like conflict 874 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 5: being involved. It's just like I think I might have 875 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 5: like attachment issues, Like I feel like all this hold. 876 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: On, hold on, there's just there's so much stuff here. 877 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: You feel as though you feel as though. 878 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 5: Sorry not make sense. 879 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, it's I'm I'm I'm 880 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: trying to understand. You feel as though talking ship is 881 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: this like necessary part of the the male bonding experience. 882 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 4: A lot of. 883 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 5: From what I've experienced. I guess maybe it has to 884 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 5: do with like a certain like crowd that I've kind 885 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 5: of like always been around, because like, you know, a 886 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 5: lot of the people that I kind of like work with, 887 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 5: and the people that have like you know, became friends 888 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: with each other, it's like, you know, they've gotten to 889 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 5: a point in their friendship where like they can like 890 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 5: talk shit to each other like comfortably, and it's like, 891 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 5: you know, I'm okay with that too, but it's like 892 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 5: I start to feel like, oh, this person's like talking 893 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 5: shit to me now, like does that mean like we're 894 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 5: becoming friends? Like? 895 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: And it's like that can be that there can be 896 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: a compelling thing for some people, but you don't, Okay, 897 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: where are you meeting these people? 898 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 4: Well? 899 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 5: Uh, I guess like coworkers, And I mean that's pretty 900 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 5: much like the only place where I've actually like socialize 901 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 5: with people nowadays, I guess is like my work place. 902 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have hobbies at all? 903 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 904 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really big into into making music, and I 905 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 5: guess I'm pretty like involved in like the local music scene, 906 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 5: uh somewhat. 907 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 4: Make fans. 908 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that's another aspect too that you know, 909 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 5: I've been trying to kind of be a little bit 910 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 5: more involved in is you know, like following my passion 911 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 5: a little bit more with this whole music thing and 912 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 5: you know, meeting other people in that community. 913 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: Mm hm. 914 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna I'm gonna try and you know, focus 915 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 5: on that a little bit more. But like I was 916 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 5: saying earlier, you know, my schedule is just so so 917 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 5: busy nowadays that I can kind of only do that, 918 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 5: like I guess, once in a great while. But you 919 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 5: know that time will come and that if it's like 920 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 5: a slow process, you know, I'm always gonna keep doing 921 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 5: it because I love doing music. 922 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. I, Like I said, I feel like that's 923 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: a perfect way to do it, whether it's uh, you know, 924 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: putting on shows or going to shows. Uh. I mean, 925 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great hobby. I know you 926 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: said you're calling in for for advice on this, but 927 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're you're doing a lot of the 928 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,919 Speaker 1: things that you know, anyone you ask advice from would 929 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: be would tell you to do. Anyway, you have this 930 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: great hobby that that is conducive to a social environment. 931 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: What I guess what I don't I don't I'll say this. 932 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: I'll say this is a thing I don't with this 933 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: whole like talking ship like nothing is I guess not nothing, 934 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: but talking shit is not integral to the male friendship experience. Okay, 935 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like bond, I mean it's a 936 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: it's a popular way for people to bond over each other. 937 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: Like in school. One thing that people bond over all 938 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: the time is mutual dislike of the same person. It 939 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: is a strong bonding thing. It's not a lasting one, 940 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: but it can be a strong bond. But you're an adult, 941 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: so I mean, you don't need to do that anymore. 942 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just bonding over shared interests. But again, 943 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: you you have this music thing that that is I 944 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: feel like going to compel you to be able to 945 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: talk to a lot of people. And you know, man, 946 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: I think I think, I think you'll be fine. I 947 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: guess I don't know what what what you're you're you know, 948 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: the main issue you're having. 949 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 5: Is Yeah, I mean I think a lot of it is, 950 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 5: you know, kind of going deeper into like the whole 951 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 5: me feeling like I might I may have like attachment issues, 952 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 5: like you know, feeling like it's just kind of hard 953 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 5: for me to like click to somebody in general, but 954 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 5: that may be like, you know, more of something that 955 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 5: I kind of, you know, would probably want to talk 956 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 5: to a therapist about maybe one day. 957 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Do you have a therapist. 958 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 5: As of right now? No, I've been really procrastinating on 959 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 5: trying to uh talk to one. But yeah, I mean, 960 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 5: as of right now, I've just been like, you know, 961 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 5: staying busy with you know, what I got going on, 962 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 5: and as long as I can, uh, you know, keep 963 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,399 Speaker 5: up with this, uh with this routine that I got 964 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 5: going on with, you know, going to the gym and working. 965 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 5: And I'm actually going to be taking up a second 966 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 5: job here pretty soon as well, so. 967 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, we'll keep at it. 968 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 4: Mittie. 969 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I if, if if this call wasn't 970 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: as h as helpful as you wanted it to be. 971 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 5: But oh no, not at all, man, Like I just 972 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 5: I really appreciate you for like having me on here, 973 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 5: and I watch your stream a lot. I work as 974 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 5: delivery drivers, so I'm on the road a lot, so 975 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 5: I get to listen to a lot of stuff. I'd 976 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 5: say your podcasts and your YouTube videos and streams are 977 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 5: probably like one of the main things that I listened to. 978 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool to. 979 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 5: Be on here. 980 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: It's cool to have you man, and good luck man. Yeah, 981 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: I'll say this. You seem like a good guy. You 982 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: seem like you're trying to do right by your daughter 983 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: and by yourself and by the world. And you know, 984 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you and all that stuff. Man. I 985 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: think I think, I think you're going to be able 986 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: to define whatever it is you're looking for. And if 987 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: you don't, I mean, you got a whole bunch of 988 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: great stuff right in front of you, so you have 989 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: that to lean into. 990 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 5: I appreciate it, man, Thank you, thank you. Can I 991 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 5: say one more thing to the people listening. 992 00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 993 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: Sure. 994 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,919 Speaker 5: So one of the reasons why I wanted to kind 995 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 5: of make more friends and so I could bring somebody 996 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 5: with to go see Lyle uh do his thing live 997 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 5: in Chicago. If anybody wants to go with man add 998 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 5: me on Instagram. It's our d V Underscore Lobos. 999 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 4: L O b o Z. 1000 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: It's sold out. They can't come. 1001 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 5: Oh, it's sold out. 1002 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: I might add a second show, but I don't. I 1003 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: don't know yet. But what about Milwaukee again. 1004 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 5: If there's gonna be a Milwaukee one. 1005 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah there, Yeah, yeah, I'm doing Milwaukee. 1006 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 5: Oh okay, is that one sold out? 1007 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 4: No? 1008 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I hope not. I don't know why. 1009 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I don't know. 1010 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: I hope it is. Yeah, come come through Milwaukee. I'm 1011 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: doing the Collectivo or something like that. It looks like 1012 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 1: it's a cool venue. So listen, man, I hope to 1013 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: see you either one of those. Don't bring your daughter. 1014 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: Come when your ex hazard. 1015 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah for sure, yay, I'll talk to you soon. 1016 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 5: Man. 1017 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Hello, all right? 1018 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 5: How good I mess? 1019 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1020 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: So sweet? Yeah. I like that guy. He was a 1021 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: good guy. He seemed like neurotic for sure, which is 1022 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: a natural state for a human being to be in. 1023 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he sounds like he's doing right 1024 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: by his daughter, he's doing right by himself. He's trying. 1025 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: That's what the show is, mat It's a bunch of 1026 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: people trying, myself included, just people fucking trying the best 1027 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: they can to do whatever it is they got to do. 1028 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: God bless them. 1029 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 5: Get goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 1030 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Everythig Cat goes doing his eight. He was teaching you 1031 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: to houses and you're like, but he's not really an expert.