1 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by called lighta health 2 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. 3 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Everybody. Welcome into One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Matty Glab 4 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: with you as we wrap up another week of the 5 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: off season. Next week, Bill's Mini Camp Balloons starts on Tuesday, 6 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: runs through Thursday, although we'll see if Thursday practice happens. 7 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Coaches over the years kind of scrapped the last day. 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: We'll see if he does that again, which could be 9 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: a topic of discussion here because you know, the team 10 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: is a little younger, more changes, new coaches. Do they 11 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: go all three days? We'll have to wait and see. 12 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: I totally feeling that I think it's a possibility. Higher 13 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: odds than right exactly. 14 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: I would think I would think so. So we'll have 15 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: full coverage of that here on the show and on 16 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo bills dot Com next week when they're back for 17 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: the three days of mandatory mini camp, and we'll get 18 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: into that a lot more next week. We're wrapping up 19 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: this week with you know, there's just some odds and 20 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: ends here and there, and obviously today is Friday, and 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: on this show, that means the Fan Friday Mailbag is 22 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: open for you, So you have any questions about Buffalo's roster, 23 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: who's looking good, who you're hoping is gonna nail down 24 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: a starting role, what we think the defensive turnover means 25 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: for the team going forward. Whatever questions on your mind 26 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: doesn't even have to be bills related, could be league 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: related as well. Fire off at us either on Twitter 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: at one Bill's Loby. You can give us a call 29 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: eight O three to five fifty one eight eight eight 30 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: five fifty two five point fifty to ask us, and 31 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: we'll do our best to give you a quality answer. 32 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: CAM promise that because we don't know what questions we're getting, 33 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: could be some subject matter we've never heard of before. 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: We're not splitting atoms here or giving you the periodic 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: table of elements. But you want to know about the bills, 36 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: we can probably help you there. I would say the 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: news that made me kind of exhale with a little 38 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: bit of a sigh of relief. Chiefs Defensive ENDBJ Thompson 39 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: is awake and responsive that according to his agent. For 40 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: those that didn't see our show yesterday, he suffered a 41 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: seizure in a team meeting room and went into cardiac 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: arrest right after had to be rushed to the hospital, 43 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: but fortunately was in stable condition and looks like he's 44 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: going to be okay. Obviously, that begs the question, though, Maddie, like, 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: what is what is the next step him? Can he 46 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: is this a condition that's going to present a chronic 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: issue for him? Can he manage it? How does it 48 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: impact his playing career? I think these are all questions 49 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: that they're going to have to answer, and presumably he's 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: gonna have to go through a series of tests on that. 51 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: It's nice to hear that he is doing okay, he's 52 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: awake and responsive. Like I said yesterday, I think all 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: of us feel a different type of way when we 54 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 3: hear this type of news since we all went through 55 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: the Demorrow Hamlin situation. Hopefully similar to DeMar now BJ 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: can make steps in the right direction and find himself 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: back on the field soon enough. 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see what comes of that. Obviously, the 59 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: best news is he's good to go at least all 60 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: indications are at this point. So that was certainly good 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: news to hear that as we go around the NFL. 62 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: Here presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of 63 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and this one made me laugh. Out loud, 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Maddie Justin Tucker Raven's kicker. He knows that the new 65 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: kickoff rule is going to bring new responsibilities for him, 66 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: and because of that, he is changing his off season approach. 67 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: The Raven Star kicker explained to the media on Thursday 68 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: how he's preparing for changes to the kickoff, which are 69 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: gonna change dramatically. Obviously, he says, quote, just like a 70 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: pitcher tries to develop his stuff, I'm doing the same 71 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: thing out here, trying to figure out whichever way we can, 72 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: in our minds, gain an advantage, gain an edge, whether 73 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: that means putting the ball in different spots, making a 74 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: challenging for a returners, scoop up the ball, all those 75 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: things we're looking at right now. Granted, we are kind 76 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: of in the fledgling stages of what we're trying to 77 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: accomplish here, and we're gonna figure it out. He also said, 78 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: though Mannie he's gonna be lifting heavier weights. I saw 79 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: that because he feels like he's probably going to be 80 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: in on some more tackles. I don't know if I'm 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: gonna fully believe that yet. And the reason I say 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: that is because the kicker is going to still be 83 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: back at the thirty five yard line, and this is 84 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: largely going to look like more of a line of 85 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: scrimmage play that you see on offense or defense because 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: the two sets of teams are so close together aside 87 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: from the kicker and whoever the returner is. I mean, 88 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: unless the guy busts through and you're the last line 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: of defense, I don't know that the kicker is going 90 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: to be making I could be completely wrong, but I 91 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: don't know that the kicker is going to be making 92 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: too many more tackles. 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: I think you're right. By the time the kicker would 94 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: get to what is happening, you would think the play 95 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: would one be over or two it would be too late. 96 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I suppose if there's a special teams 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: coach in the early going this season who figures out 98 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: the secret sauce, so to speak, as to how to 99 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: devise a big play almost every time before the rest 100 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: of the league catches up, well, then maybe kicker going 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: against that team could be busy. But I'm telling you 102 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: right now, you got ten guys on your coverage unit 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: down there, and they're all beat and the return man 104 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: has the entire field to work with against a kicker 105 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: who is a great leg strength athlete, but maybe not 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: a super agile athlete, not a cutter. I mean, what 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: do we usually see when it's down to the return 108 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: man and the kicker. 109 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: It's not pretty right, jump after him, miss him. 110 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Trying, can't catch him, get out angled. It's usually not 111 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: a pretty sight anyway. So it's admirable that Justin Tucker 112 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: is trying to bulk up for the new kickoff rule. 113 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: Number one, I don't know that it's going to be necessary. 114 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: And number two, I don't know that it's going to 115 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: make a world of difference, but good. 116 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: For him, for Trump takes everybody well, we'll have to 117 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: check in with Tyler Bass and see if he's doing. 118 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: We are Justin tuckers. 119 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: For the new kickoff rule. 120 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: Added some weight to to what you're lifting, that you 121 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: doing the same thing, you doing this thing, Just do 122 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: that'll be It's going to be, I think, in the 123 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: first few weeks of the season. So interesting to see 124 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: how teams play this because people may think they have 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: the secret sauce, people may think they have it figured out, 126 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: but it's gonna be I'm excited to watch what happens 127 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: on kickoffs in the first few weeks because it could 128 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: be complete chaos. 129 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: We are quite literally going to be watching history unfold 130 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: in this league because this is a dramatic shift in 131 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: how games begin and how games are executed after scores. 132 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: So we are literally going to be watching history for 133 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: this league because it's the first season it's gonna look 134 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: like this. 135 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: Ever, we could see one season of this and then 136 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: a change. It depends on how it's gonna go. If 137 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: this is not what the owners want, not what Roger 138 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: Goodell wants, we could see a change pretty quickly here. 139 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: That is true, That isn't That is an option that 140 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: they have at their disposal. But it's clear that they 141 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: did not like what they had last year. You know, 142 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: they instituted the fair catch for a year that's gone 143 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: on kickoffs, but they want more returns. They were tired 144 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: of the touchbacks. I mean the Super Bowl there were 145 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: no returns. Thirteen kickoffs, no returns, and they don't like that. 146 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: It's it's not entertaining. So that's why we have the 147 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: changes we have now. But yeah, whoever, whoever gets ahead 148 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: of everybody else, it's it's a race right now. It's 149 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: it is littered quite literally a foot race to figure 150 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: it out first. I mean, it's it's funny like I 151 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: used to hear my dad tell me about, you know, 152 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: the space race and the race to the Moon and 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: all of that, and the Russians and the Americans and 154 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: you know who's going to get to the moon first 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: and all of that, and the researchers and the German 156 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: scientists they pulled out of Germany after World War Two. 157 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: It's like, look, I realized that's on a much different scale. 158 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: But it's kind of something of that. ILK Like you're 159 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: you're in the lab. You're literally in the lab right 160 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: now with your special teams coaches trying to find an 161 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: edge somewhere. 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: The only thing you have to look at is the XFL. 163 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: That is it. That is it. And you better believe 164 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: that all those special teams coaches have their phones have 165 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: been ringing off the hook, Hey what did you do? 166 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: What did you like? What worked? What kind of players 167 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: did you use to this? Because you're not necessarily even 168 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: going to use all the same players you have typically 169 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: seen on a kickoff play because these. 170 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: Guys bigger, stronger, they're only. 171 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: Like five yards away from the other team and they're 172 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: only covering twenty to thirty yards to get to the 173 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: ball carrier, not forty to sixty. So now you don't 174 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: necessarily need like seven or eight speed demons and three 175 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: or four bigger guys. It could be the flip of that. 176 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said yesterday, we were talking about Eddie olifacioh 177 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: and you said that, hey, he could play a big 178 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: on special teams this season. Look at his body makeup. 179 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: This kid is strong, has muscles for days, and you 180 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: could see more of that a part of the kickoff. 181 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: Because you're traveling a shorter distance and you need to 182 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: make an impact within a couple seconds, maybe you go bigger, stronger. 183 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: It's looked like in terms of if you have to 184 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: put you know, if you have to put a finger 185 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: on what type of players will be a part of 186 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: special teams on kickoff, the guys are bigger and stronger. 187 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm kind of wondering if there may actually be offensive 188 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: alignment on return teams, like not five, but maybe two 189 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: or three, just to kind of hold a line, you know, 190 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: to kind of create a gap or a crease somewhere. 191 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's because if they have three linemen 192 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: out there and I don't know, maybe there's too much 193 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: space still, and they say, no, we don't want to 194 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: put guys out there that can't move laterally, you know, 195 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: and have good lateral agility. But yes, it is gonna 196 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what the coaches come up with, 197 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a lot of teaching and reteaching. 198 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: And when we had coach McDermot and here in studio 199 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, he was talking about how they're 200 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: actually gonna have to run the drill periods for that 201 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: at full speed because no one has ever done it before. See, 202 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: there is no motor memory at game speed how that 203 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: play unfolds, and so they have to replicate it at 204 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: full speed in practice to just give guys a feel 205 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: and a sense for how that play is gonna work, 206 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: how it's gonna unfold, how the looks are gonna appear 207 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: to them in real time at real speed. So it's 208 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: really it's really gonna turn kind of the whole practice 209 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: regimen in training camp on its ear here because number one, 210 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: you have to feel like, because it is so new, 211 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to vote more of their lot to 212 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: practice time to it. And then number two, for at 213 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: least a portion of it. You will have to run 214 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: it at full speed to give guys a feel for 215 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: it. It's it's really gonna change how coaches schedule out their 216 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: practice time in training camp this summer. It's really interesational. 217 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Teams will matter this season. 218 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, big time. Miami Dolphins said 219 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: coach Mike McDaniel has decided to have daily reminders for 220 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: his players as to how long it's been since their 221 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: team won a playoff game. For those wondering, it's twenty 222 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: four years. They've made the playoffs in each of the 223 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: first two years under McDaniel, but they have not won 224 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: a playoff game. Lost here to Buffalo two years ago 225 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: and then lost to Kansas City last year. So in 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: an effort to emphasize that to his team, he's incorporated 227 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: the number into the team's meeting time. So they meet 228 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: it like seven to twenty four or nine to twenty 229 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: four or one twenty four. And I'm just thinking to myself, like, 230 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: is that really like necessary? Like to me, I understand 231 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: coaches have their quirks and they feel like inserting little 232 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: things as mental reminders are important. I don't know, this 233 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 2: seems a little over the top to me, But I'll 234 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: give you his quote first and then let me know 235 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: what you think. He says, you get what you emphasize. Well, 236 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: why not find ways to emphasize finishing and everything you 237 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: do obsessed about it? Why not have for half the 238 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: off season you're trying to have staff meetings at different 239 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: times during the day. I had every staff meeting I 240 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: put at twenty four after the hour for the number 241 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: twenty four. To you, guys, it means nothing. That's how 242 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: many years it's been since we won a playoff game. 243 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: We're going to hear about that come playoff time. So 244 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: to me, you do that to empower guys to know 245 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: what's coming, to understand it, to not run from it. 246 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: Are people really running from it? Like I don't. I mean, okay, 247 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: create an awareness. I respect that, Yeah, But is setting 248 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: the meeting time? I don't know. It seems like he's 249 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: overdoing it. 250 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: I understand like the team mantra thing, right, you have? 251 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: You may have a slogan or a few words to 252 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: define your season, what you want to follow, what your 253 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: ambitions are. We hear playoff caliber, championship caliber, find a way. 254 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: We've had several of those throughout Sean McDermott's head coaching 255 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: career in Buffalo, which I totally get. You want to 256 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: hammer the point home, you want you want to see it, 257 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: you want it to be everywhere, so it becomes a 258 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: part of you. I would almost think it would make 259 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: more sense if maybe your team slogan for the year 260 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: was just twenty four. 261 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, or just throw it up on the screen before 262 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: every meeting closed, every meeting with it. 263 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: You know. 264 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's like the trailer to your 265 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: study session, right, you know, and then okay, off we go, 266 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: and then I don't know, maybe it's on the door 267 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: out to the practice field or you know what I mean. 268 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know. It was a weird way of 269 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: doing it. 270 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: It's interesting. We'll see what happens to the Miami do. 271 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: And I guess a player would say say, why the 272 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: hell are we meeting at seven twenty four? And it's like, 273 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: oh that again, Okay, Like it's I don't know, it 274 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: just seemed it just seems so like random and remote 275 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: a thing to pick to just I don't know. It 276 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: was just he's a little he's a little out there. 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: Though I think we already knew that about him. He's hilarious. 278 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's a fantastic character for the 279 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: NFL press conferences entertaining. So I like the guy. But 280 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that one just seemed a little. 281 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: Weird to me, a different way to go about things. 282 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: We'll see if it works for them. 283 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: We know the Eagles this offseason changed both their offensive 284 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: and defensive coordinators, Vic Fangio now the DC, Kellen Moore 285 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: comes over from the Chargers as the offensive coordinator. If 286 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: you were wondering how much the Eagles offense is going 287 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: to change, wonder no more, because quarterback Jalen Hurts has 288 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: laid out how much change is involved. He used the 289 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: word overhaul yesterday and basically indicated that probably ninety five 290 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: percent of the offense is new. So I don't know 291 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: about you, Maddy, but you know the defense is changing 292 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: under Fangio. The offensive system has clearly changed under Kellen Moore. 293 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a learning curve here. I mean, yes, 294 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: the Eagles are a veteran team, They're a proven team. 295 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: They kind of fell flat at the end of the 296 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: season last year. 297 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: But I mean I'm looking up their schedule. 298 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna do that. 299 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: Week one against the Packers on tough Game Friday. 300 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: Tough game. Oh, that's the Brazil game. 301 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brazil game. Week two against the Falcons on Monday Night. 302 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: Football and improved team. 303 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: Yep. 304 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Then you go to the Saints. 305 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Okay, and an easy place to play. 306 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: You get a Week five by Okay. Oh, I would 307 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: not be a fan of that, but maybe it's good 308 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 3: for them because it's a reset. If you've got a 309 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: new system on offense and defense, maybe it'll come at 310 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: the right time for them. Then you go Brown's Giants, 311 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: Bengals and on. 312 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think history has told us that when you 313 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: enact this much change, as far as the scheme goes, 314 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: and you're doing it on both sides of the ball, 315 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: that it will take time. Back in the day when 316 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: there was no limit to offseason work, teams could install 317 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: a new offense and by like week three or four, 318 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: you could see a team kind of hitting its stride 319 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: and becoming a well oiled machine. Now with limited practice 320 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: time in the off season, which I know might sound 321 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: silly to someone, Oh, they still practice like ten eleven 322 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: times in OTAs, three more in minicamp. Used to be 323 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: a lot more than that. I think it takes a 324 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 2: little bit longer. Now takes like six to seven games sometimes. 325 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: Now there are I'm sure there are examples out there 326 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: where new offenses just hit the ground running off they went, 327 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: you know, Mike McDaniel first couple of games, you know, 328 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: as head coach in Miami, they were off and running 329 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: and looked pretty good. So it could happen. I'm not 330 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: convinced it will. I think that I think the Eagles 331 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: could be a team that maybe stubs their toe early 332 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: in the season, you know, has a game that they 333 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: dropped that they shouldn't because again, motor memory of this 334 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: offense and how it's to be executed might be a 335 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: little inconsistent at the beginning of the year. 336 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: Even the Bills last season, they didn't really figure out 337 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: who they were until after that. That Eagles game is 338 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: when they hit that win streak. I mean, they started 339 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: off the season with that loss and then won three 340 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: straight games and then it was win loss, win loss, 341 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: win loss until they hit that week thirteen by so 342 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: they didn't even have a new offensive system. They had 343 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: a new defensive coordinator and Sean McDermott, who's called the place. 344 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: But it makes sense why a team with a new 345 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: system on both sides of the ball. Why it could 346 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: take a few extra weeks for them to feel like 347 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 3: they're truly comfortable in a system. It might take even 348 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: longer than that. If what Jalen Hurts is saying is 349 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: true that it's a complete overhaul, that's when you really 350 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: have to rely on the veterans that you have on 351 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: the team who have been in different systems. If you 352 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: got a lot of younger players in there, it could 353 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: take even longer. 354 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think there will be a learning curve 355 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: here for the Eagles offense. I'm interested to see it 356 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: because let's not make any qualms about this. I mean, 357 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Dallas is a legitimate contender in that division with the Eagles, 358 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: and then you have, you know, two other teams that 359 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: are trying to keep pace in the Giants and the Commanders. 360 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: But if you're in a tight race, you know, come 361 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: down the end of it, people could be looking back 362 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: at the first month of the season saying, yeah, they 363 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: they kind of had to get adjusted to their new 364 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: schemes and you know, maybe it costs them. We'll have to. 365 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: See where would you put the Eagles on the list 366 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: of NFC teams that are at the top right now, 367 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: would they make top three for you? Top five? I 368 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: mean you've got the forty nine ers, Yeah, I think. 369 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: They're probably the top five. I would yeah, I would 370 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: say I would have the Niners ahead of the Boys. 371 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: Hmmm. 372 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: I would have the Niners ahead of them for sure. Lions, 373 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: I would say yes to the Lions. 374 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: Packers. 375 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: I would say, I actually like the Packers better than 376 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: the Lions better quarterback Cowboys. Yeah, I think Cowboys and 377 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: Eagles are kind of even. Plus they know each other 378 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: really well. I'm trying to run through the rollerdecks there 379 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: and think of another team that should. 380 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: Be Bucks considered, Rams could be better MS. 381 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rams are a possibility, but I need to see 382 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: it first. Yeah. I mean there's still a top five 383 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: NFC team. The NFC is just not as good as 384 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: the AFC. Now that's the that's the rub there. So 385 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: that is around the NFL. Presented by killauda healthy official 386 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. As we said, it 387 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: is the OBL fan Friday Mailbag. Any question you have 388 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: on the Bills, we are here to answer it. At 389 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight 390 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty. Those are the numbers 391 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: to get on board. We should mention Maddy put a 392 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: story together for Buffalo Bills dot Com on Greg Russeau 393 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: and at Oliver and their outlooking OTAs as they get 394 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: set for their fifth and sixth seasons respectively. I believe 395 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: it is or fifth and fourth, fifth and fourth seasons respectively, 396 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: And Oliver obviously is coming off a career year, and 397 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: I think Rousseau is kind of hoping to take his 398 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: performance up another notch after an eight sex season last year. 399 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I really feel like Rousseau is going to 400 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: break out. Here are the reasons why I think it's 401 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: taken until year four for him. Number one, one year 402 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: starter in college. Number two did not play his last 403 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: year in college twenty twenty COVID year, and then so 404 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: I think very green player, very green and kind of 405 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: learned on the fly and kind of felt his way, 406 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: and then some injury issues cropped up his first couple 407 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: of years, high ankle sprains, things like that. But I 408 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: think he's been an above average player for this team. 409 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: I think he wants to get to difference making level 410 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: and we've seen flashes of that. You know, people remember 411 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: the interception against the Chiefs when we picked off Mahomes, 412 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: and he's great against the run, uses his length extremely well. 413 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: I think this is a year to really keep an 414 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: eye on Rousseau as one of those breakout type players 415 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: where it may have taken him a little longer just 416 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: because his body of work and reps on the field 417 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: in college were so limited. 418 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense why that has happened. I mean last 419 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: season when I was writing this story, I was trying 420 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: to remember, Okay, at Oliver obviously had that nine and 421 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: a half sax season last year. I was like, what 422 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: did gregorw So finish with? I looked it up and 423 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: he finished with five last year. I was a little 424 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: bit surprised. I thought it was six or seven. He 425 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: had eight in twenty twenty two. But I think that's 426 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: what the expectations are for this upcoming season for greg 427 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: Russo is to finish with eight, nine or ten sacks, 428 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's an okay number to expect him 429 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: to get to because of what he's shown, because of 430 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: the people that are lined up next to him, it 431 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: makes sense why it might take four years for him 432 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: to really show the true potential. It's the consistency. He 433 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: started off the season hot last year. Looking back the 434 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: first few weeks, he had one sack against the Commanders, 435 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: two sacks against the Dolphins, and then finished out the 436 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: season with a half sack in Week fourteen Week fifteen. 437 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: There So aj Apanessa came on strong last year. Greg 438 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: rus so Hey, it's your turn this season. You also 439 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: have a contract looming. They picked up his fifth year option, 440 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: and now you're playing for that next contract. What is 441 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: that number going to be and where is it going 442 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: to be? I mean, hopefully he's still in Buffalo. I 443 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: would love to see him a part of this defensive 444 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: line for the long term, because I think he's shown 445 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: that it's there. He ja Epanessa comes back this year 446 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: after re signing with Buffalo. Because of the season that 447 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: he had last season, I didn't know if he would 448 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: be back. I'm happy he is back part of this team. 449 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: But I'm excited for Greg Grussoe this season. Hopefully the 450 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: health issues don't pop up at all this season because 451 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: that has slow him down the last couple seasons. I 452 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: think a true, fully healthy season for him would do 453 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: a lot, and he's played through injuries right He's played 454 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: through some of that ankle stuff, but then it doesn't 455 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: translate as much into getting after the quarterback and sack 456 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: numbers things like that. But we'll see what he can 457 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: do this season. It'll be interesting to see also the 458 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 3: rotation between him, a ja Apanessa, and Von Miller in 459 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: terms of what Vaughn is feeling in the first few weeks, 460 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: if he's feeling at full strength, and how they balance 461 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: those three coming in and out of the lineup, and 462 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: you know, if any of these guys are kicking and 463 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: kicking into the inside, which we've seen before as well. 464 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: Especially Rousseau because of his length. I think the most 465 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: intriguing part of this whole thing in terms of the 466 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: season out look for Rousseau is we're saying a lot 467 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: of the same things that we were previously saying about 468 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: it at Oliver, which was namely, you see flashes of 469 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: the ability. Now he needs to demonstrate the week to 470 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: week consistency through the course of a season ed Oliver 471 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: was able to do that last year even without his 472 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: chief running mate Di Kwon Jones, who missed ten games. 473 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: That was year five for him, last year's year five, 474 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: and a year before that it was two and a 475 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: half sacks, which I remember it it seemed like it 476 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: should have been way more than two and a half 477 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: sacks because he was involved in a lot more plays. 478 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: And then this year signs last year, I should say, 479 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: signs that contract extension ahead of the season, which was 480 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: highly based in incentives, and met a lot of those 481 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: incentives with the nine and a half sacks that he 482 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: put on tape, so fifty one tackles as well. 483 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully Russeau comes through this year in much the same 484 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: way that Ed did last year, and then that week 485 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: to week consistency will be realized and reflected in the numbers. 486 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: But let's go the phones at eight oh three h 487 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two 488 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board with any 489 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: question you may have. As it is as it is 490 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: the OBL Friday fan mail Bag, and we lead off 491 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: today with Rex down in Springville. What's up? 492 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 4: Rex? Uh? 493 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 5: I completely agree with your analogy. It takes you know, 494 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 5: six or seven weeks for a new offense to get 495 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: off and running in the NFL based on you know, 496 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 5: new defensive schemes and everything. But would you suggest that 497 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 5: a team with an offensive line has been shuffled, a 498 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: team that's lost his best two wide receivers, a team 499 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 5: that has self admittedly a new offensive quarter that says 500 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 5: he finally can implement the new offense that suits him. 501 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: We were suggesting the same as the Eagles, that it'll 502 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 5: take seven weeks for the Bills to get going to. 503 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, Rex, 504 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: I really don't. I mean, we were saying on the 505 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: show yesterday that you know, we were wouldn't be surprised 506 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: if at the beginning of the season there are some 507 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: inconsistencies in the first month of the year because of 508 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: all that newness and some of the changes to the scheme. 509 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say that the offensive 510 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: line has had numerous changes. We're on paper, we're looking 511 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: at potentially two guys lining up in different places, but 512 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: only one guy new to the starting five. I don't 513 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: know that I would. I don't know that I would 514 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: label that an overhaul per se. 515 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not staying overhaul, but I 516 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 5: would certainly say it's in the realm of possibility that 517 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 5: you have a guy that's never played center in one 518 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: of the most important positions on the offensive line obviously 519 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: left tackle, Yeah, center's very important, and getting familiar with 520 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: Josh Hallen too like that. That's that's that's not an overhaul, 521 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: but it certainly is an area of maybe concern. 522 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's fair. I mean, you have every 523 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: right to be concerned about that. I don't I don't 524 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: think that's outlandish to be pointing to it as something 525 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. And thanks for the call, 526 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: by the way, I mean, yeah, you can make the 527 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: same argument. I don't think Buffalo's offense will necessarily change 528 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: quite as much as we're hearing that the Eagles offense 529 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: is going to change. But yeah, there's going to be change, 530 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: and to your point, top two receivers are no longer 531 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: on this roster. Those voids have to be filled. But 532 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: I think you also have to look at what remains 533 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: a constant, and I think those things are Your backfield, 534 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: at least at the top of the depth chart, is 535 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: the same. Your offensive line, aside from one guy who, oh, 536 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: by the way, was also here last year and served 537 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: as the sixth offensive lineman. David Edwards is presumably going 538 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: to be the starting left guard, so that for all 539 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: intents and purposes is largely the same. I don't dismiss 540 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: the change in operation at center with McGovern, at least 541 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: as the penciled in guy. But I think if you 542 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: roll it all together, there's less change on offense on 543 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: the whole, yeah, than there is on defense. 544 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: I agree. And I want to say this point about 545 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: Connor mc govern too. He does have experience playing center. 546 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: Maybe not with the Bills, but he came into going 547 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: all the way back to college football at Penn State. 548 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: He came in as the number three center in the 549 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: country out of high school football. So he was an 550 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: elite center earlier on in his playing career and did 551 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: play center at Penn State. So it's not like he's 552 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: he hasn't done it before. He does have experience doing so. 553 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I looked it up in the Pros when 554 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: he was with Dallas. He has one hundred career snaps 555 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: at center in the Pros. That's not a lot. That's 556 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: probably a game and a half, maybe a little bit 557 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: more so. Yeah, and I would guarantee you those probably 558 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: weren't all together. It was probably filling in for an 559 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: injured guy here, maybe a spot start there. So it 560 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: is limited and there will be a learning curve. There 561 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: is some chemistry that he has to develop with Josh 562 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: in terms of cadence and signaling and pre snap alignments 563 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: and adjustments. So yeah, I mean, but he's he's stood 564 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: there with the ball in his hand. He's been there 565 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: in a three point stance with the ball in his 566 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: hand before, so it's not like it's completely foreign. But yeah, 567 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: there are adjustments to be made. But that's part of 568 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: the reason why they're here now to kind of get 569 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: all of that basic operational stuff buttoned up. So when 570 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: the more complex pre snap stuff comes, when that line 571 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: in front of it just starts jumping around and you've 572 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: got to make line call changes, those just come naturally 573 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: because all the other stuff is taken care of already. 574 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: But no, it's I don't think Rex is out of 575 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: line to say, hey, you know what you just said 576 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: about the Eagles could apply to the Bills very well. 577 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: Could we have to take a break here, But when 578 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: we come back, MORI your phone calls, The OBL Friday 579 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: fan mail bag is open, answering your most pressing bills 580 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: and NFL questions. That's what we do on Friday here 581 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health. 582 00:31:49,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. It is OBL Fan Friday mail Bag, 583 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: which means any question that you have on your mind 584 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: about the Bills. The NFL at large fired off at 585 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: us at eight o three to zero five point fifty 586 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: one eight eight eighty five fifty two five fifty got 587 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: some open lines for you. There any question you might 588 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: have on your mind about the team now, the roster's 589 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: shaping up, maybe the pecking order to position you ask us. 590 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: We'll do our best to let you know what is 591 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: going on. And back to the phones we go, and 592 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: Bob in Rochester is up next week. Got first, Bob. 593 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 6: Chris, thank you very much for taking my call. I 594 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 6: am a current season ticket holder in access of forty 595 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 6: years and during that duration of time, specifically, I'm trying 596 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 6: to get maybe just a view from you with regarding 597 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 6: to the new stadium selling of their personal seat licensing. 598 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 6: And the question that I really have is I know 599 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 6: what the process is. I'm trying to understand the progress. 600 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 6: And specifically, in January, I believe all season ticket holders 601 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 6: received an email saying something to this sect. Shortly someone 602 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 6: will be calling you. I have received another email six 603 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 6: months later, and again it says shortly you will be 604 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 6: receiving some information from us based on what you know 605 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 6: or what you publicly can talk about. Can you can 606 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: you give us any information with regarding the personal seat licensing, 607 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 6: how they're selling, and what may be going on. I 608 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 6: appreciate that. 609 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, Bob. I mean, look, we have limited information. 610 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: We do know that the process is underway. From what 611 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: we understand, they're starting with the premium seating for and 612 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: then they're working their way back from that. So where 613 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: you currently sit will have a bearing on when they 614 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 2: get to you. So to speak. All indications are seats 615 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: are selling very well, and it's the Legends group that 616 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: is kind of spearheading that effort. They were hired by 617 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: the Bills to kind of be the point people on this, 618 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: and that's really the nuts and bolts of what's going 619 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: on now. I realize that people might be getting anxious 620 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: if they haven't taken the next steps in terms of 621 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 2: securing their seats in the new building. But I will 622 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: say that there is a process to all of this, 623 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: and they're going to take it step by step and 624 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: not deviate from it. So if you're concerned about being 625 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: left out in the cold. I wouldn't be if you 626 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: are a season ticket holder, especially with the level of 627 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: seniority that you have of over forty years. 628 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 629 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 2: We appreciate the support. But yeah, I mean, long story short, 630 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: they will get to everybody, especially those that they've already 631 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: reached out to. So I don't know if I mean 632 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: hopefully that gives you a little peace of mind. That's 633 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: really the best we can do, right Yep. 634 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: I was going to say exactly what you said, starting 635 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: at the top, working their way down. Yeah, sit tight, 636 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: it'll come. 637 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. But they're they've had good numbers from all indications 638 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: from what we've heard in terms of the people that are, 639 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: you know, committing to the new stadium from where they 640 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: currently exist here in the existing stadium. We'll take a 641 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: couple of questions off of the mail bag on Twitter 642 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: while we wait for some other open lines to fill up. 643 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: At eight h three oh five fifty and Mason asks, 644 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: how do you see Joe Brady's effect of the offense 645 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: changing it from what we saw last year? We touched 646 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: on this a littally yesterday Mattie with Marcus Moser, our 647 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: guest on the show, yesterday from the thirty thirteen, and 648 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: we kind of all were in consensus on this. We're 649 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: kind of anticipating a little bit more run being mixed 650 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: into the offense. I don't think I would call it 651 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty split by any means. But if 652 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 2: it was previously, you know, at its zenith, sixty four 653 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: percent pass, you know, and forty six percent or thirty 654 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: six percent run maybe under day ball in the heyday, 655 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: I would expect it to be maybe more fifty five 656 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 2: forty five, like somewhere in there, based on how Brady 657 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: is going to attack this. I think they really felt 658 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: like they got some traction in the run game down 659 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 2: the stretch when they went five and one, six and one, 660 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: whatever it was, and then even ran the ball pretty 661 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: effectively in the playoffs, and I think that convinced them 662 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: going forward to keep that in there. 663 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: It worked, so why not continue with what was working 664 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: for this team last season. I believe this season for 665 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: Buffalo's offense, underneath offensive coordinator Joe Brady, it's gonna be 666 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: like you're walking into a coffee shop with a full 667 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: menu of things you can order. You've got your lattes, 668 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: you've got your mocas, You've got your your Macha Ti lat, 669 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 3: you got your London fog, instead of maybe in years 670 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: past you walk into a coffee shop and they're like, 671 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: we've got coffees and lattes. That's it. There's gonna be 672 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 3: a lot of different options that this offense can use, 673 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: take advantage of, and play with according to what they're 674 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: gonna go up against. It worked last season down the stretch. 675 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 3: I believe it's gonna work again for this team. 676 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I don't know if that completely answers your question, 677 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: but I think the effect, the ultimate effect, at least 678 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: as far as I'm seeing it, is the offense is 679 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: going to be more versatile, and by virtue of that, 680 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: it will also be more unpredictable week to week. That's 681 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: kind of the effect I see Joey having, in concert 682 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: with what the offseason roster build has been. On the 683 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, jg asks with Bernard, Cook, 684 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: Benford all coming to the close of their rookie deals 685 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: in the next two seasons, who do you think gets 686 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 2: extended first? And do they all get re signed? Good question. 687 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: None of them obviously are fifty year option eligible. Cook 688 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: is the highest in terms of draft choices as a 689 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 2: second round pick, Bernard a third rounder, Benford a sixth rounder. 690 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 2: I think they are all future core players. The running 691 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: back position is always a tricky one, but I'm trying 692 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: to remember. I think James turned twenty two is rookie season, 693 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: so that will make him a twenty four year old. Now. 694 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: He'll be twenty five at the end of his rookie deal, 695 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: so I think signing him to an extent would not 696 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: be a problem so long as it doesn't break the bank. 697 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 2: And if he continues to put up numbers like he 698 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: did last year, he might be deemed too pricey at 699 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: a position where finding replacements isn't all that difficult. And 700 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: that's hard to predict now what that's going to look 701 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: like two years from now. If he has three consecutive 702 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred yard total yards from scrimmage seasons in a row, 703 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: he's probably going to cost too much. 704 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: I haven't thought about that yet. 705 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that these guys are all 706 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 2: going to be coming up around the time you're looking 707 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: to redo. 708 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: Josh, that's very true. That's a great point. 709 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: So I think it's hard to have a crystal ball 710 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: that far into the future. I'm not trying to dodge 711 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: the question. I just think it's very hard for Maddie 712 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 2: and I to give you an accurate answer that you 713 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 2: can go to the bank on. I think Bernard, provided 714 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: he stays healthy, is pretty much a lock to get 715 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: a second contract. It's not a super expensive position, and 716 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: he's the leader of your defense. And I think he's 717 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: already proven himself more instinctive and more of a playmaker 718 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: than Tremaine Edmonds was and look Edmunds was a solid player. 719 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: He went to two Pro Bowls here in his first 720 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: five years in a Bill's uniform. I think Bernard has 721 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: the potential to be an even bigger playmaker than him, 722 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: and I think he's he's got. If you ask me 723 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: which one of these three is most likely to get 724 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: a second contract, I say it's Bernard. 725 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: Me too. When you find your middle linebacker who fits 726 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: in the defense, who is a mouthpiece for Sean McDermott, 727 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 3: I feel like those two are so similar in the 728 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 3: way they think and the way they act. We heard 729 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: from Sean McDermott this offseason explaining how him and Terrell 730 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 3: would would have meetings together, and Terrell spoke about that 731 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 3: as well. I think when you find your guy, the 732 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: leader of your defense, can't you can't let them walk. 733 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: You can't let them go to another team. 734 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: Benford will be interesting for a couple of reasons. Number one, 735 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 2: it's a high priced position corner. Number two, Kyer Elam's 736 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: contract will be up at the same time. What if 737 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 2: Kyer Elam lights the world on fire this year, earns 738 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: a starting job, has eight picks, and then does the 739 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 2: same thing the next year. If you have to choose 740 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: between the two of them, maybe it's Elam and not Benford. Yeah, 741 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of variables involved here that I 742 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: think could change how the picture looks right now. 743 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 3: You could pick up the option on Kye too, that 744 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 3: is true. 745 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: There is the fifty year option available there, and that 746 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: buys you time exactly. So maybe you signed Benford to 747 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: a reasonable extension fifty year option Elam and then worry 748 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: about him the following year, or get it done in 749 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: the interim where you have that whole summer to kind 750 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: of figure things out. We've seen Brandon Bean in the 751 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: past sign a lot of core young core players to 752 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: extensions in August right before the season starts, So we'll 753 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 2: see if that comes to pass. That was a good 754 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: question though, just hard to pin down. You know, we're 755 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: trying to look two years into the future. I mean, 756 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: my god, we can I can barely. 757 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: What's the supermarket gonna look like? 758 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 5: Then? 759 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, right, But if I had to handicap it, 760 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 2: I would say Bernard most likely to get a second contract. 761 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: I think Cook would get one. But how it's structured, 762 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: I think is going to be very important both to 763 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: the running back end, to the organization, knowing knowing the 764 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: wear and tear that running backs have, and then Benford 765 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: probably third. Gotta take a break here, still taking your 766 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 2: phone calls at eight oh three five point fifty one 767 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty obil Friday 768 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: fan mailbag is open, so you can give us a 769 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: call there where we have open lines for you, or 770 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 2: you can hit us up at One Bill's Live Back 771 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 2: with more in a second on a Friday edition to 772 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live Stay with us. 773 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 7: Your first and second year, you're gonna have guys that 774 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 7: make plays and do stuff tradition to your third year. 775 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 7: For any player, it's really that breakout yere. Yeah, I 776 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 7: told you, like last year, your eyes have been coming 777 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 7: on you a lot more. You still gotta work the same. Yeah, 778 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 7: now you've got their attention, how do you keep that attention? 779 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 8: I think I've gotten to a point where I've gotten 780 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 8: like a rhythm within the game. I'm out there making plays. 781 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 8: But to me, I'm like, there's so much more that 782 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 8: I feel like I'm leaving out on the table. 783 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 7: He wants to be the guy that everybody talks about. 784 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 7: He's not afraid of that. 785 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 8: He I want to be a thousand yard receiver. I 786 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 8: wanna be in like the talks of like top receivers 787 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 8: in the league, And I think to get there, it's 788 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 8: the work that has to be put in. It is 789 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 8: so hardcore, like taking places where you don't want to go, 790 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 8: but you know you're gonna come out a better person. 791 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 2: Yosh, shall it? Who else? Blue Hands? 792 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir City Buffalos Saws. 793 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 8: All the stories they say about billis mafia of like 794 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 8: how supportive they are, how loving they are, like they 795 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 8: show up no matter what, like mould to say, like 796 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 8: it's always been like that. 797 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 7: If you're always planning harder, you give one hundred percent 798 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 7: of you're doing what you're supposed to do. They're gonna 799 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 7: love you to the day you die. 800 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: All right. That is the latest edition of Beyond Blue 801 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 2: and Red, the Khalil Shakir Eric Molds story. For those 802 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: that don't know, Molds, the former Bill's phenomena receiver himself, 803 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 2: has been mentoring Khalil Shakir and training him each of 804 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: the last two off seasons now and you saw the 805 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 2: impact he made for Khalil in year two of his career, 806 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 2: and we've talked about it here on the show as well. 807 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, by the end of the season, he was 808 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 2: a go to guy for Josh Allen and I think 809 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 2: this sky's the limit for this kid, based on his versatility, 810 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 2: making ability and his hands he's got. I mean, he 811 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 2: had literally the most consistent hands in the league last year. 812 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 2: Eighty six and a half percent catch rate led the league. 813 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: So that continues. Look out and it is the latest 814 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: edition of our Beyond Blue and Red, which we'll be 815 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: out on Buffalo bills dot com and on the YouTube 816 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: page for the Bills channel, So be sure to check 817 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: it out if you get a chance. You get to 818 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: see behind the scenes work of Molds and Shakir on 819 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: the field in the training complex. 820 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 3: Grind it I remember some of the plays he had 821 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 3: down the stretch last season in the playoffs, where he 822 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 3: was making plays getting around defenders to find the end zone, 823 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 3: and you're thinking, you've got to keep throwing the ball 824 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 3: to him because of what he's making out of these catches, 825 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 3: because of how he's finding the end zone. You could 826 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: just tell something was different about his game when he 827 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: got that opportunity. During the season. I spoke to him 828 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 3: in an interview setting and I said, Colo, what's the difference. 829 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 3: What has it been? And he said, training with Eric 830 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 3: Molds in the offseason, and my confidence, Shaker said, my 831 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 3: confidence has gotten so much better this year. I think 832 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 3: that plays a part too in the relationship that he 833 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 3: has built with Josh Allen. Once you have the trust 834 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 3: of your quarterback, you gotta believe that confidence sky rockets. 835 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 3: And you could see that with the way that Shaker 836 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 3: played the game. I loved watching the episode. I watched 837 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 3: it while I was eating lunch today. The guy is 838 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 3: a great guy, he said. My goal in life and 839 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 3: my goal being a Buffalo building an NFL player, is 840 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 3: to be the most respectable person and player I can be. 841 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 3: If I had to describe him as something I would 842 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 3: describe him as exactly that. Khali Shakir is just someone 843 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: who does the right thing, who acts in the right way. 844 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 3: You can see why Joe Brady loves him. You can 845 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: see why Sean McDermott loves him because of the way 846 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 3: that he carries himself. He's a young player, but he's 847 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: very mature for his age. That goes back to being 848 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 3: and being a kid who had a parent that was 849 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 3: in the military. He moved around so much when he 850 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: was younger. He spent time in Hawaii, he spent time 851 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 3: in Japan, he spent time in California. Mkoli went into 852 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 3: why moving around has helped him become the person he 853 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: is today and that he's does well in scenarios that 854 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 3: he's not comfortable in. Yeah, because he's been all over 855 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 3: the place. 856 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 2: You've adapted to change your whole life as a kid. 857 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 2: And if you can do that as a kid, where 858 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: you got to make new friends and you got to 859 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: get used to a new teacher, you got to get 860 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 2: used to a new school, new route to school, and 861 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: my taking the bus, am I walking like all those things. 862 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 2: Adjusting all the way through his upbringing makes adjusting to 863 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: like changes to an offense scheme, a piece of cake 864 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 2: or adjusting to new teamings. Guy's been doing it since 865 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: he's five, so it's not a problem. But I think 866 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: very quietly, he put up a pretty impressive body of 867 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 2: work from like Week eighteen through the playoffs. I mean, 868 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 2: he was dynamic in that win over the Dolphins. It 869 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 2: was him and Digs where the catalysts of the passing 870 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: game in the Week eighteen game to win the division. 871 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 2: But I think the play we're watching right now was 872 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,479 Speaker 2: the catalyst for all of them. It was Week nine 873 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 2: or ten, Joe Brady's first game call in plays against 874 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: the Jets, they destroy them. I think it was thirty 875 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: two to six or something was the final and he 876 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: had the eighty one yard catch and run for a 877 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: touchdown and the famous Dalton Kincaid doofblock that kind of 878 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: set him off, and I think that was the catalyst 879 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 2: for his confidence. And then you saw the way Josh 880 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 2: looked for him down the stretch in the Miami game, 881 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 2: in the Pittsburgh game, and in the Kansas City playoff game, 882 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: even where he had a late go ahead touchdown. He 883 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 2: was a difference maker. And now with another offseason of 884 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 2: training with molds, he's just so shifty. My favorite touchdown 885 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 2: was the one he had against Pittsburgh. 886 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 3: It was amazing. 887 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he literally did like a break chance move 888 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 2: on the field, totally spun around and Michael Walker, who 889 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: was the linebacker there. I mean, he literally shook him 890 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 2: out of his shoes. It looked like a yard sale 891 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: the way he just shook him. And you know, Steve Tasker, 892 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 2: who obviously does this show when he's here with me, 893 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: he was shocked by what Shakir did last year because 894 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 2: he wasn't certain about Khalil, and he'll be the first 895 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 2: to admit it, but after he saw him shake Michael 896 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 2: Walker on that touchdown catch and run against the Steelers, 897 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 2: which really, for all intents and purposes, put that game 898 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 2: out of reach, he was like, that was a wow 899 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 2: moment for me on Khalil Shakir, And we said it 900 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 2: on the show yesterday. The ultimate sign of respect was 901 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs when in the second half of that game 902 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: they put Lagerius Snead on Shakir for the rest of 903 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 2: the game their best corner and he scored a touchdown 904 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 2: on him. So I think things are looking way up. 905 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 2: Needle is pointing way up on shaquir in year three. 906 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: And that was the other thing you heard Molds in 907 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: the trailer there say in year three, that's when a 908 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: lot of guys make their biggest jump. You want to 909 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: know why he said it, because that's what Eric Molds did. 910 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 2: Ninety six, he's basically returning kicks for the Bills as 911 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 2: a first round pick rookie. Ninety seven, the team goes 912 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: six and ten that year, Marve Levy's last year, and 913 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,280 Speaker 2: in ninety eight, Eric Molds arrives. And I am telling 914 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: you right now, of all the training camps I have covered, 915 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 2: and I've covered a lot of them for the Bills, 916 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 2: no single player has dominated a training camp in a 917 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 2: Bills uniform the way Eric Moles dominated the ninety eight 918 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 2: training camp. And all he did that year was go off. 919 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 2: I can't remember if his ninety eight or two thousand 920 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 2: was his one hundred catch season. 921 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 3: It was ninety eight. I'm looking at his stats right now. 922 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 3: He had under three hundred receiving yards in ninety six 923 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 3: ninety seven, only two touchdowns between those two seasons, and 924 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: then in ninety eight he had over thirteen hundred receiving 925 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 3: yards and nine touchdowns. 926 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and average twenty yards of catch. Holy moly, yeah dang, 927 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 2: twenty yards of reception. It was insane, and you could 928 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 2: tell it was coming based on how his training, because 929 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, he'd go out in training 930 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 2: camp every day and he'd score like four touchdowns and 931 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: like just blowing the doors off of people. And he 932 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 2: was a manchild. He was like two hundred and fifteen pounds. 933 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 2: He ran like a fourth ran in the high four threes. 934 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. He was It looked like a man 935 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 2: against boys. It wasn't fair. And I was just like, 936 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 2: what are we watching here? Like this guy is gonna 937 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 2: crush the league this year, and then he went out 938 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: and did it. So that guy to say that about 939 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 2: Yakir kind of made me sit up in my chair 940 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: a little bit just listening to it. We have to 941 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,479 Speaker 2: take a break, but be sure you check that out. 942 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: The Beyond the Blue and Red, a Generation Generational Buffalo 943 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: Bill's connection the Khalil Shakir Eric Mould's story. It's pretty cool. 944 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 2: Check it out on all the bills social channels. When 945 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 2: you get a chance. Break time for us here more 946 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 2: of your questions. When we come back an hour number two, 947 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 2: we're wide open for your phone calls on an OBL 948 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 2: Friday Fan mail Bag edition of One Bill's Live. We're 949 00:52:30,400 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 2: back in a minute. 950 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by calllighta Health. 951 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: All right now our number two on a Friday. Glad 952 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 2: to have you with us, Chris Brown, Matty Glab One 953 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 2: Bill's Live is your program of choice. Thanks for making 954 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 2: that choice, and it is OBL Friday Fan mail Bag. 955 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 2: Anything on your mind about the Bills to the league 956 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 2: at large, fire it off at us. Maybe you want 957 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 2: to talk about the thoughts of an eighteen game schedule. 958 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: You know what you think about the new kickoff rule 959 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: and how you think it might play out, Or you 960 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 2: have some questions about the Bills roster and it's current construction. 961 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 2: You let us know eight oh three five fifty the 962 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 2: number to get on board one eight eight eight five 963 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty the toll free number, and 964 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you. We are going 965 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: to dive back into the mail bag on Twitter though, 966 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 2: where this question comes from Greg, and he says, I 967 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: tend to think that the Bills have a pretty big 968 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: offensive line, quarterback and wide receivers. I would think that 969 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 2: with the addition of Davis at running back. He's talking 970 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: about fourth round pick Ray Davis, the rookie. They could 971 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 2: be bullies physically. How do we stack up against this 972 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 2: year's schedule? The defense seems more like a youth speed movement. Yeah. 973 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean it's as we were just talking last hour 974 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 2: because we had a question about, you know, to what 975 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: degree do we expect Joe Brady to tweak and change 976 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 2: the offense? And I think we're kind of of the 977 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 2: opinion that there's probably going to be a little more 978 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 2: run sprinkled in more regularly, not to the point where 979 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: it's a fifty to fifty balance, but maybe the percentage 980 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 2: of run plays edges up a little bit. We even 981 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 2: talked about that with Marcus Mosher yesterday, that you know, 982 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 2: the run game might be featured more prominently in the 983 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 2: red zone too, the tough yards, so to speak, and 984 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 2: it may even lighting the load on Josh Allen with 985 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: a guy like Ray Davis. I firmly believe that the 986 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 2: Ray Davis draft pick is a signal that they do 987 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 2: want to run the ball more between the tackles, and 988 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 2: I think that was the plan to some degree last year, 989 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: even when Ken Dorsey was still the OC. But then 990 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: Damien Harris gets hurt early in the season and it 991 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 2: kind of compromised things a little bit because if you remember, 992 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 2: Ty Johnson was a late signing, didn't have a full 993 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: grasp of the offense, and I think it changed some 994 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 2: of the initial plans. Then Dawson Knox gets hurt that 995 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 2: changed things again. So I think Ray Davis is essentially 996 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 2: you're Damian Harris now not coincidentally, we're in the same 997 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 2: number if I remember right. 998 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: And. 999 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 2: I think drafting him was a signal that there are 1000 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 2: going to be between the tackle plays. I'm not going 1001 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: to say they're featured more prominently because I think again 1002 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 2: it's going to be depending upon opponent as to how 1003 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 2: much that does get factored into a game plan. But 1004 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 2: the option is there to do that in a given 1005 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 2: week where they feel it might work. Allah the Dallas 1006 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys game, how much did they run the damn ball 1007 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: in that week? 1008 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 3: The entire game base they found something they didn't stop. 1009 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: It worked on their Pinn and Poll scheme where they 1010 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: pulled the tackle all the way to the other side 1011 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 2: of the formation and they did not stop until the 1012 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 2: game was over. 1013 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 3: We spent a lot of last year's off season, talking 1014 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 3: about after the Bills signed Damian Harris and Latavius Murray, 1015 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: what those two players could do in the red zone. 1016 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 3: These were running backs who once they got into the 1017 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 3: red zone, they knew how to get the tough yards 1018 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 3: and they knew how to score, and their statistics with 1019 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 3: other teams proved that. Well, then Damian Harris goes down, 1020 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 3: you're left with Latavius Murray. Speaking of red zone targets, 1021 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 3: Dawson knocks to another huge red zone target for this 1022 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 3: team who spent part of last season injured. Will Ray 1023 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 3: Davis fill in some of those holes if you turn 1024 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 3: on the tape what he does inside the numbers. This 1025 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 3: guy is a talented running back with his vision and 1026 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 3: how he can get up the middle and through defenders. 1027 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, to answer your question about how Buffalo's 1028 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: offense stacks up physically with their schedule of opponents, the 1029 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 2: Arizona defense, just looking at Week one, there's still a 1030 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 2: work in progress on the defensive side of the ball. 1031 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 2: Jonathan Yannon is a defensive mind by trade, their head coach, 1032 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 2: but there are still a lot of pieces they're still 1033 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 2: trying to fit together on the defensive side of the ball, 1034 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 2: and for that reason, I think advantage Buffalo in the 1035 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: physical area Miami week two. They're a team that has 1036 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 2: a lot of holes to plug on the defensive side 1037 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 2: of the ball. One of their inside linebackers, Jerome Baker 1038 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 2: is gone, Andrew Van Ginkel is gone. It does not 1039 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 2: look as though Bradley Chubb nor Jalen Phillips will be 1040 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 2: ready by week two. Those are important absences on the 1041 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: edges of the defensive front. Oh yeah for Miami if 1042 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,959 Speaker 2: that in fact comes to pass, So again, I would 1043 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 2: give Buffalo's offense the physical advantage. Then we get to 1044 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: week three and week four, and I think things change precipitously. Yes, 1045 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 2: the Jaguars defensive front has been a bugaboot for the 1046 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 2: Bills from a physical standpoint. Chiefly, I don't know if 1047 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 2: they have the physical advantage in Week three. That is 1048 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 2: a very good defensive front that the Jaguars have and 1049 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 2: underrated in my opinion. We all know what the Ravens 1050 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 2: bring to the table. Physical is their mo and that's 1051 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 2: a tough group. Week five, I think they are more 1052 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: physical than the Texans defensive front. It's not great. The 1053 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 2: offense is the signature part of their team, So I 1054 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 2: would say physically an edge there. Jets, I don't know 1055 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 2: if they do. Jets defense is always a big problem 1056 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: for this Bill's team. Bills always score low in terms 1057 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 2: of a point total against the Jets more often than not. 1058 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: I know they scored thirty two up here last year 1059 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: in the second meeting, but that was against a team 1060 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 2: that had zero offense, literally zero offense. I mean, they 1061 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 2: were a two faced football team, special teams in defense, 1062 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 2: they had no offense to speak of. That's different this year. 1063 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 2: Titans can be a physical team. They still have Jeffrey 1064 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 2: Simmons in the middle of that defense, and he is 1065 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 2: a pain in the arse. So collectively you would say 1066 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: that the Bills should be the more physical group there. 1067 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 2: But we'll have to wait and see. Seahawks are an 1068 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 2: interesting team, not the defense they used to be, but 1069 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 2: let's see what they look like this year. I don't know. 1070 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 2: And then you're back to the Dolphins. Colts have a 1071 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 2: good defensive front, good defensive front, quity Pay, the guys 1072 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 2: inside are good as well toforst Buckner. You know, I 1073 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: don't have to further. We know what the Chiefs defense 1074 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 2: is all about. We own what the Niners defense is 1075 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 2: all about and even the Rams defense is underrated. And 1076 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 2: they made their first two draft choices on the defensive 1077 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: side of the ball, at defensive end and at defensive tackle. 1078 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 2: And Jared Verse, who's a good player who they can 1079 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 2: pair up with. Kobe Turner, who was a revelation of 1080 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 2: a late round pick for them last year. I know 1081 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: they don't have Aaron Donald anymore, but they got some 1082 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 2: good young kids in that mix. And then the Lions 1083 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 2: play physical. That is their mantra. Campbell Patriots, I think 1084 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 2: you can get them, but their defense is better than 1085 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 2: their offense. And then it's Jets Patriots again. So there's 1086 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 2: a couple of cupcakes in there, but not many. 1087 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 3: We also heard from Sean McDermott last season when the 1088 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 3: Bills were going through the middle of the season when 1089 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 3: it was win lost, when loss, and a lot of 1090 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 3: what we heard from him was I want this team 1091 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 3: to be more physical. I want this team to be 1092 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 3: more aggressive. You see some of these moves they made 1093 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the football. Let's see if 1094 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 3: that translates to being more physical and more aggressive in games. 1095 01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I know we hear all the 1096 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 2: time time that Sean McDermott and his offense and his 1097 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 2: coaching staff. They're not big on playing rookies unless they 1098 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 2: are convincing that they are ready to do so. I 1099 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 2: think Ray Davis, as a twenty five year old rookie 1100 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 2: could be one of those guys. 1101 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 3: Let's see what you got. 1102 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 2: So be interesting to see how that unfolds through the 1103 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 2: course of training camp in the preseason. Let's get back 1104 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 2: to the phones and we go to David Rochester. 1105 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 4: What's up, Dave, Hey, thank you for taking my call. 1106 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 7: Uh. 1107 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 4: I was really enjoying what you're talking about earlier with 1108 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 4: Khalil Shakir, and that's this wide receiver and remember, general 1109 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 4: is going to be different. But I really think Khalil 1110 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 4: Shakiir is a standout star. People don't realize that he 1111 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 4: was highly productive at Boise State with quite frankly bad 1112 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 4: quarterback play and he he. I think Khalil shak Yer 1113 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 4: was going to be integral for this offense. But I 1114 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 4: think he could be a pro bowler. And I'll leave 1115 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 4: at that. 1116 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Dave. I mean, I I don't want 1117 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 2: to get too high probolic on Khalil, but it would 1118 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 2: not shock me at all provided he stays healthy, that 1119 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 2: he's number two on this team in receptions when the 1120 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 2: season is over, and the only guy I would put 1121 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 2: ahead of him might be Kincaid. I think it could 1122 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 2: be Kincaid Shakir one two in terms of receptions, not 1123 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 2: receiving yards, but receptions. I think those two guys could 1124 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 2: be one two very easily this year, just by virtue 1125 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: of the fact that they have the most time on 1126 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 2: task with Josh Allen throwing to them. 1127 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 3: Josh is comfortable with them. You're walking into a season 1128 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 3: with a lot of new faces on the offensive side 1129 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 3: of the football, a lot of new playmakers who Josh 1130 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 3: has not necessarily had game time with. 1131 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 2: The I mean, Dawson Knox is the only guy with 1132 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 2: more and those two years. 1133 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 3: They're working on the chemistry right now. But the first 1134 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 3: few weeks of the season you might see a lot 1135 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 3: of Dalton Kinka, Dawson Knox, and Khalil Shakir because the 1136 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 3: team is building on getting comfortable with some of these 1137 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 3: new guys. Khlols Shakir had twenty touchdown receptions in college 1138 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 3: for Boise State, had a one to one thousand yard 1139 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 3: season in his final year with them in twenty twenty one. 1140 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 3: So he was a productive player at the collegiate level, 1141 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 3: and he has high hopes for what he can do 1142 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 3: in the NFL. You talk to a lot of these 1143 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 3: players about their goals and expectations, and a lot of 1144 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 3: the times you hear these players say nobody's expectations are 1145 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 3: bigger than the ones that I have for myself. And 1146 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: I think you could say that about Khalo Shakir. 1147 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phone lines. We go to 1148 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 2: Mark and Jersey City next. 1149 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 9: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, guest, thanks for taking my call. 1150 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 9: I'm going to concur with you on the Ray Davis 1151 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 9: and I think it's even more than that, because he's 1152 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 9: a much better pass receiver than people realize. And he 1153 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 9: actually reminds me of This is heresy to say he's thicker. 1154 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 9: He reminds me of Thurman. The way he catches the ball. 1155 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 9: He has the exact same hand size, same hype. He 1156 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 9: reminds me a lot of him. The way he's like 1157 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 9: gets so like small. I believe they had what was 1158 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 9: his nickname, squat Squatty, somebody he had. I know Brady 1159 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 9: comes from Sean Payton, that he's he's not as long 1160 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 9: in the tooth as the prior Bills backup running backs 1161 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 9: that the Tolberts, the Gores, the Chris Ivories, that they're 1162 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 9: going to run the ball a lot more than people realize. 1163 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 9: And there and I think of those Saints games. You know, 1164 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 9: that's where Brady is and Curry against the Bills. I 1165 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 9: remember Breeze didn't have it in either game. I think 1166 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 9: it was in two thousand and nine, and then all 1167 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 9: of a sudden, in like the second half, they just 1168 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 9: started running the ball with Pierre Thomas and broke the 1169 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 9: game open. The game in twenty seventeen. 1170 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 4: Bills had a little bit of slide. 1171 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 9: They just I think they got run on for like 1172 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 9: three hundred yards. And I think you got to look 1173 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 9: at those as blueprints and they ran a lot that 1174 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 9: the Saints ran a lot of twelve personnel. That was 1175 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 9: Jimmy Graham, a guy named said Thomas was the other 1176 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 9: tight end shocky during the Super Bowl year. That those 1177 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 9: are the blueprints and that look. And I'd also like 1178 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,479 Speaker 9: to ask you, guys, what position do you think they'll add. 1179 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 9: Who's this year's Leonard Floyd or million years past. I 1180 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,919 Speaker 9: can't think of any other guy but thanks for taking 1181 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 9: my call. 1182 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, Mark, Yeah, I mean it's interesting if 1183 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 2: you want to draw on Joe Brady's coaching roots, Yes, 1184 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 2: they do stretch back to New Orleans. And let's not 1185 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 2: forget the quarterbacks coach here. Coach Curry comes from that 1186 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 2: same tree, so it's only going to get reinforced through 1187 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 2: him to some degree. Ray Davis comparing anybody to Therman 1188 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Thomas is a little nuts before, especially before a player's 1189 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 2: taken an NFL snap. I understand that our caller, Mark 1190 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 2: was not saying he's going to be Therman Thomas. He 1191 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 2: was just comparing some similar physical traits. And he does 1192 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 2: get skinned increases like Thurman used to. Like Thurman would 1193 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 2: take a play that was gonna go for minus two 1194 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 2: and turn it into a two yard game just because 1195 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 2: he could squirm and squirt and make himself narrow through 1196 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 2: creases to get positive yardage on the play. And he 1197 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 2: was one of the best ever doing that. Let's see 1198 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 2: if Ray Davis can do that. Is he underrated as 1199 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: a pass catcher. I don't know. I think because his 1200 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 2: rushing totals have been so big in college. You know, 1201 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 2: he's got over a thousand rushing yards at three different 1202 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 2: schools in his college career. I think that is the 1203 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 2: reason that people don't look at his pass catching acumen more. 1204 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see how Joe Brady utilizes the 1205 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 2: backs that he has at his disposal, because to me, 1206 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 2: James Cook is like Alvin Kamara. If you want to 1207 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 2: do Alvin Kamara things, you have James Cook to do that. 1208 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 2: If you want to do mark Ingram thing. Just if 1209 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 2: you want to use the Saints offense as an example, 1210 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 2: if you want to do mark Ingram things, Ray Davis 1211 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 2: is your guy for that. And Ty Johnson is kind 1212 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: of a hybrid cross between those teams, so he can 1213 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 2: do anything he wants with those three guys. So you 1214 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 2: hope that you go into the regular season with all 1215 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 2: three of those players healthy. And your wild card is 1216 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 2: Darrenton Evans, who came very close to earning a roster 1217 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 2: spot last year. I mean, he had a big breakout 1218 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 2: game in the Bears preseason game if you remember, and then, 1219 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 2: unfortunately for Darrenton Evans, suddenly Ty Johnson was healthy and 1220 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 2: was a guy that they were looking at all offseason. 1221 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 2: He could pass a physical and all of a sudden, 1222 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 2: he's here, and he steals a roster spot away from him. 1223 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 2: So it's an interesting mix of guys, it really is. 1224 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 3: And I think Joe Brady's going to use all three 1225 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 3: of those guys. I don't think there's gonna be sure. 1226 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 3: There might be a guy who has more carries. James Cook. 1227 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 3: We're all ready for him to have a great season, 1228 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 3: a great third season in the NFL. Second season, third, 1229 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm like, wait, how old is this guy? 1230 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 3: Third season? 1231 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 2: Right, he's still younger than Ray Davis, younger than Das. 1232 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 3: But I think we're going to see all three used 1233 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 3: in different ways. And that speaks to the versatility that 1234 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 3: is going to live within this offense and how they 1235 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 3: can play with guys, how they can tweak the roster 1236 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 3: in terms of guys who are on the field, the 1237 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 3: eleven players that are on the field come game day. 1238 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 2: And who's to say in a third down situation you 1239 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,639 Speaker 2: can't go split backs and you have cooking Davis in there, 1240 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden pre snap, Cook flexes 1241 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 2: out and goes to a receiver alignment or has late 1242 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 2: motion out of the backfield, you know, and now is 1243 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 2: eye candy for the defense and then you just put 1244 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 2: it in Ray Davis's bread basket and he gets six 1245 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 2: yards on a third and four running it, and you know, 1246 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 2: you got a fresh set of downs. Like there are 1247 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,680 Speaker 2: so many things you can do out of that. 1248 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 3: The personnel groupings could get wacky and fun. This year 1249 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,600 Speaker 3: twelve personnel, twenty two personnel, twenty one personnel. 1250 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, they went empty a lot on third down 1251 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 2: under Joe Brady last year empty A good not maybe 1252 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say a lot, but a good deal of 1253 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 2: the time they would go empty. You could start with 1254 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 2: a split backfield and end up empty by the time 1255 01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 2: it's all said, trun and not to mention that Curtis 1256 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,759 Speaker 2: Samuel is a guy that lined up in the backfield 1257 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 2: under Joe Brady in Carolina. So there's a multitude of 1258 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 2: options at his disposal, and it's really something that we're 1259 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 2: all eager to see, you know, come training camp time. 1260 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 2: Let's go to Ryan and Toronto next. 1261 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 10: What's up Ryan, Chris, Maddy love the show, Happy Friday. 1262 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 10: A couple of questions for you guys. I'm mostly above 1263 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 10: the Seattle game against the Bills. I know Lester Facers 1264 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 10: defended the coordinator for sadle. Now, do you think that 1265 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 10: he's got something some sort of chifting his shoulder that 1266 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 10: you know what he's approved game at the revenge game. Oh, 1267 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,559 Speaker 10: do you think mcderman is going to, like, you know 1268 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 10: how a lesser Fraser calls the defense and he might 1269 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 10: take advantage of it. That's what he talks on those. 1270 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're assuming. I think you're assuming that 1271 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 2: Leslie Fraser is gonna run the Bill system there. I 1272 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,640 Speaker 2: imagine there will be some principles of that system that 1273 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 2: will exist. Will it be identical? I think it depends 1274 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 2: a lot on their personnel, because I think Leslie Fraser 1275 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 2: the reason he's lasted as long as he has in 1276 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 2: this league and has had his lengthy a career and 1277 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 2: successful career as he's had, is because he shifts the 1278 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 2: scheme to the players that he has at his disposal. 1279 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 2: That's kind of been the key for him. So let's 1280 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 2: start there. Number one, Okay, number two. As of last year, 1281 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 2: the Seahawks ran a three to four front. That's a 1282 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 2: lot different than what he ran with the Bills, and 1283 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,679 Speaker 2: even what he ran with the Vikings, if memory serves, 1284 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 2: he ran a four to three up there as well. 1285 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 2: Does that change because Leslie Fraser is there. I don't 1286 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 2: get the sense that it will based on the personnel 1287 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 2: that they have. I mean, they've got Leonard Williams, Daron Reid, 1288 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 2: and Dermont Jones are the projected starters in the three 1289 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 2: to four front up front, and then you have you know, 1290 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 2: the outside long six foot four, six foot five outside 1291 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 2: linebacker guys where you know, are you playing a fifty 1292 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,680 Speaker 2: front in all likelihood? Yes, their first round pick was 1293 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 2: Byron Murphy. They're lining him up as a defensive end 1294 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: in OTA's and he was a defensive tackle in a 1295 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 2: four to three for Texas. I mean, I'm not saying 1296 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 2: he can't play that position. I think he is versatile 1297 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,560 Speaker 2: enough to play there. He's a super athlete for a 1298 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifteen pound man. But I don't think 1299 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 2: the defense in Seattle is going to resemble anything that 1300 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 2: we saw Leslie Fraser executing here in Buffalo. And I 1301 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe I missed a headline or something, but 1302 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,640 Speaker 2: as far as I know, they're going to maintain the 1303 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,839 Speaker 2: three four defense that they have because they've been drafting 1304 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 2: personnel for it the last three or four years. So 1305 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 2: to change it now just because Leslie Fraser wants to 1306 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,919 Speaker 2: play a four to three. I don't see that happening. 1307 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know that a lot of what you're 1308 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:43,759 Speaker 2: talking about Ryan necessarily applies. I'm sure he could give 1309 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 2: the Seattle offense pointers on what the Bills defense will do. 1310 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, and maybe that's what you're asking, 1311 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 2: and maybe I missed your question entirely there. Yes, he 1312 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,799 Speaker 2: could probably help in that regard. So could Tyrrel Dotson 1313 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 2: for that matter. Who's playing in Seattle now, so yes, 1314 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 2: But truthfully, I think Seattle's offensive coaching staff is going 1315 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 2: to pull what they see on tape through Buffalo's first 1316 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 2: seven games before they play the Seahawks. They're going to 1317 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 2: go off of that more than they are on what 1318 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 2: Leslie Fraser or Tyrell Dotson. 1319 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 3: Remembers, because the offense is going to look different from 1320 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 3: when Leslie Fraser was a part of his coaching staff, 1321 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 3: even Tyrell Dodson was a part of the roster. I mean, 1322 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 3: once we get to that game, it'll be intriguing to 1323 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 3: see if they're ready for what Buffalo does on offense. 1324 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 3: I mean, he spent a good amount of time in 1325 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,480 Speaker 3: Buffalo as their defensive coordinator and really instilled some amazing 1326 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 3: things within this defense, some things that this defense is 1327 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 3: known for taking them all away, not allowing a lot 1328 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 3: of passing touchdowns. That comes from a lot of that 1329 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 3: comes from Leslie Fraser. 1330 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I realized we didn't answer our previous caller, 1331 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 2: Mark's question in terms of where the Bills could add. 1332 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 2: I think corner is a position where they might still 1333 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 2: want to add some depth, especially if what they see 1334 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,599 Speaker 2: from some of the young undrafteds that are playing corner 1335 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 2: don't give them confidence that they have the right amount 1336 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 2: of depth. And there are still a lot of veteran 1337 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,719 Speaker 2: corners out there, so I could see a veteran corner 1338 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 2: getting added. And then beyond that, I don't know. I mean, 1339 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I think the roster's in pretty good shape. I think 1340 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 2: it might take an injury or two to add anywhere else. 1341 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 2: But if you want to pin me down and say 1342 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 2: where do they still need depth, I would say corner 1343 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 2: you can make an argument for, and then after that 1344 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:52,719 Speaker 2: maybe guard center, but they're pretty loaded there too, although 1345 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 2: it's there are a fair number of undrafteds, so maybe 1346 01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 2: O line and corner. I would say than that there 1347 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 2: really isn't anything terribly pressing. And the only other kind 1348 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,639 Speaker 2: of edition I could see is if some veteran player 1349 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 2: then nobody expected to be out there suddenly shakes loose 1350 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,759 Speaker 2: off a roster for whatever reason, and then it's like, oh, 1351 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 2: that guy helps us, you know, let's go get that guy. 1352 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 2: But that's not at a specific position per se. I 1353 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 2: think if they see a player shake out of the 1354 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 2: trees and they see him as an upgrade, then yeah, 1355 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 2: I could see them doing that. Break time for us 1356 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 2: here more of your questions on an OBL Friday Fan 1357 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 2: mail Bag edition of One Bill's Live. When we return, 1358 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 2: as we're presented by Kalida Health, this is Buffalo Bills Radio. 1359 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown 1360 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 2: Maddy glab with you on an OBL Fan Friday mail 1361 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 2: Bag and we dive back in to the mailbag here 1362 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 2: for probably one of the most unique questions we have 1363 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 2: ever received, This one from Eric, who asks your options 1364 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 2: are fifty hawks, ten crocodiles, three brown bears, fifteen wolves, 1365 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:20,560 Speaker 2: one hunter, seven cape buffalo, ten thousand rats, five gorillas, 1366 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 2: and four lions. You must pick two that will defend 1367 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 2: you while the rest are coming to kill you, which 1368 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 2: do you pick? And why? 1369 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 3: Wow, I gotta think about this. 1370 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 2: This might sound crazy, but. 1371 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm going ten thousand rats for sure. 1372 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,800 Speaker 2: I want to go power in numbers here. 1373 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 3: Yes, that's one because even though. 1374 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 2: You have fifty hawks who could take care of a 1375 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 2: good number of rats just flying out of the air, 1376 01:16:53,680 --> 01:17:01,440 Speaker 2: they're not getting ten thousand, like you're just not ten crocodiles. 1377 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 2: And let's remember they're coming to kill me. So all right, 1378 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 2: the hawks are going to take care of some of 1379 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 2: those rats. Maybe the ten crocodiles are the three brown bears. 1380 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,759 Speaker 2: Those are gonna be tough to stop with ten thousand rats. 1381 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:24,600 Speaker 2: That's my My issue is I can outrun a crocodile serpentine, 1382 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 2: you know, they can't go side to side. They're good 1383 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 2: in a straight line, but side to side no good. 1384 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 2: I could. I could easily outrun the crocodiles and not 1385 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 2: have to worry about them, So they're off. They're off 1386 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 2: the list for me. The three brown bears are a 1387 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 2: major problem. They're a major problem, as are the fifteen 1388 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 2: wolves because now you've got like a pack and a 1389 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 2: half of wolves coming after you. That's a problem. There 1390 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 2: was a part of me that thought long and hard 1391 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 2: about the fifteen wolves. 1392 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm going ten thousand rats and fifteen wolves. 1393 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 2: Well you can only oh you can pick two two? 1394 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 2: Oh good? Oh yeah, I'm taking in the rats and 1395 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 2: the wolves. Wo like done, same story, yeah done, deal 1396 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 2: power in numbers. I don't feel like I control could 1397 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 2: control the fifty hawks very well, you know. And all 1398 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 2: you gotta do is hit a bird in the head 1399 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 2: and they're done, like one swift hit in the head, 1400 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 2: like a brown bear can take out like three hawks 1401 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 2: at once. Those those water buffaloes that made me think too, 1402 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,439 Speaker 2: because those are those are tough. I've seen like nature 1403 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 2: shows where they got water buffaloes like kicking a lion 1404 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 2: in the head. Hippos too, Yeah, oh. 1405 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 3: Don't mess the videos on hippos on Instagram and they're. 1406 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,680 Speaker 2: Just like lions. Don't mess after people in boats. 1407 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, scary. 1408 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 2: The five gorillas would be a problem too, because they're 1409 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 2: hard to outrun as well, and it's not like you 1410 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 2: can climb a tree to get away from them. This 1411 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:55,560 Speaker 2: is a four lions. I forgot about the lions. Four lions. 1412 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 2: I want to take four lions over fifteen wolves. I 1413 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 2: might be tempted to do that. 1414 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 3: I was tempted to take the buffalo seven k buffalo. 1415 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're more of a defender for you with those 1416 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 2: big rats that they have. They're the ones with those 1417 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 2: big they're like handlebar mustache horns. Man, the four lions 1418 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 2: is tempting, though I might have to change my answer here. 1419 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Four lions ten thousand. 1420 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 2: I might go fifteen wolves in four lions. I think 1421 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm going there, King of the Jungle man, Come on, 1422 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,519 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go four lions ten thousand wolves. 1423 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 2: The rats are going to be supremely annoying. But I mean, 1424 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 2: I know I only have two feet to step on them. 1425 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 2: But you could get overwhelmed pretty easily. But if you 1426 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 2: got fifteen wolves and four lions. 1427 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 3: Helping you, just thinking about ten thousand rats is. 1428 01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 2: Just running all over your body, tackling you and pinning 1429 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 2: you down. Yeah. Not good. So let's move on to Jack, 1430 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 2: because I think we gave that enough time from Eric. 1431 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,759 Speaker 2: Although I do appreciate the uniqueness of the question, Jack 1432 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 2: says returners and specialists. Two guys in particular, I'm curious 1433 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 2: about Hardy the sixth rounder, the Penn State Kid. His 1434 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 2: tape at Penn State as a returner is nice and 1435 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 2: I think he brings more at corner than expected. Who 1436 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 2: else is in competition and who fits best? Also curious 1437 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 2: about this San Diego State punter Jack Downing. He's talking 1438 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 2: about can he unseat the vet. He's got good numbers, 1439 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 2: not quite as good as his predecessor Matt Riza, who 1440 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,799 Speaker 2: was also at San Diego State and a former Bill's 1441 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,760 Speaker 2: draft pick, but I think he'll be nice competition in 1442 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 2: the preseason for you know, Sam Martin. The operation of 1443 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 2: the kicker is going to be important too, So I think. 1444 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,240 Speaker 3: Jack they had Matt Hawkin here too earlier. 1445 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 2: Right, and then he just got released, So it's a 1446 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,919 Speaker 2: two man race there at punter. So I'll be interested 1447 01:20:54,920 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 2: to see what Browning can do in the punting competition 1448 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 2: because he's got good numbers and he did everything he plays, kicked, 1449 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 2: he punted, and he kicked off, So it'll be interesting 1450 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 2: to see if he's allowed to do some kickoffs too 1451 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,640 Speaker 2: with this new kickoff rule, Like how well does he do? 1452 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,040 Speaker 2: Is he someone to consider? Because here's the thing, Maddie 1453 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 2: Tyler bass is looking to have a bounce back year 1454 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 2: after what I think many would call a down year 1455 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 2: by his standards right, because he had a fantastic body 1456 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,559 Speaker 2: of work, you know, his first three years and then 1457 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 2: last year. I think he would agree that it wasn't 1458 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 2: up to his standard. So there's that. If you can 1459 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 2: get a kid in here like this Jack Browning and 1460 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 2: he can punt just about as good as Sam Martin, 1461 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 2: and he can also kick off for you and take 1462 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 2: that off Tyler Bass's plate, is that something to consider 1463 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 2: for your punting job. The more you can do, the 1464 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 2: better chance you have a help in yourself. So I'm 1465 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,840 Speaker 2: interested to see if he's even given an opportunity to 1466 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 2: kick off or if that's it's just gonna be Tyler 1467 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 2: Bass's bag, because hey, this is a new play, let's 1468 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 2: use our veteran in this spot. And they're like, let's 1469 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 2: nail this down sooner rather than later. We don't need 1470 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 2: to play with a competition on kickoffs. But I'm interested 1471 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 2: to see if he gets a crack at that. That's 1472 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 2: number one. As for Hardy, I think punt return he 1473 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,440 Speaker 2: is firmly in the mix and maybe the odds on favorite. 1474 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily see him as a kick return guy. 1475 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 2: And this is why he's tiny. He's not a tackle breaker. 1476 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 2: And knowing that this kick return is gonna look more 1477 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 2: like a line of scrimmage play. I don't think you 1478 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 2: want a tiny guy doing that. I think you're gonna 1479 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 2: see more bigger, elusive receivers and elusive running bats in 1480 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 2: that role than you are. A tiny returner like an 1481 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,679 Speaker 2: Isaiah Mackenzie or a day Quon Hardy or a Deontae Hardy. 1482 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be doing kick returns. I 1483 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,879 Speaker 2: think're gonna be doing punt returns, and day Kwon factoring 1484 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 2: into the corner competition, and I think he's strictly a 1485 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 2: nickel guy. I think if you're a day Kwon Hardy, 1486 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 2: your goal to make the fifty three man roster is 1487 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,559 Speaker 2: to nail down the starting punt return job and to 1488 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 2: prove you're good enough to be Taron Johnson's backup. 1489 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, that's. 1490 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,200 Speaker 2: Your ultimate ideal world for dakek Onon Hardy. 1491 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 3: Hardy was the main punt returner for Penn State last season. 1492 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 3: He averaged fourteen point six yards per return. He took 1493 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 3: a pair back for touchdowns. One was fifty six yards, 1494 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 3: one was sixty eight yards. In the same game against 1495 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 3: You Masks. 1496 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 2: They were overmatched, you mask to be honest. To be fair, 1497 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 2: they were an overmatched team against Penn State. 1498 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 3: Hey good to run two back and decent average too. 1499 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,880 Speaker 2: So you can't fault Hardy for who gets put on 1500 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 2: their schedule, right, That's not his fault. He's if he 1501 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:51,759 Speaker 2: can execute against that team. 1502 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 3: Great, But it will be We've talked about this new 1503 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 3: kickoff rule at length today and for a good reason. 1504 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see who they put back there 1505 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 3: as a kickoff returner because of what you're gonna need 1506 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 3: out of that player, because of the fact that it's 1507 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 3: gonna be, like you said, more of a line of 1508 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,600 Speaker 3: scrimmage battle. You're gonna want bigger guys back there. So 1509 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 3: once we get into training camp, we might see a 1510 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,719 Speaker 3: little bit of this next week in mandatory mini camp 1511 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 3: as well, the guys that they're putting back there. 1512 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know Jack is asking about, you know, 1513 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,559 Speaker 2: how does he factor into the corner competition. I just 1514 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,559 Speaker 2: think we know history has told us that the Bills 1515 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 2: covet length at the outside corner positions. Just look at 1516 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 2: the guys that they have. Christian Benford sixty to two 1517 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 2: long arms, Kyer Elim six 's one long arms, Russeull 1518 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,839 Speaker 2: Douglas six six foot two or three long arms, Daikwon 1519 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 2: Hardy goes like five eight and change. I just think 1520 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 2: he's better suited inside. Brandon Bean after he drafted him, 1521 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 2: says we're gonna start him as a nickel, and we 1522 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 2: kind of see him as a nickel. So I think 1523 01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 2: he is depth behind Tarn Johns at a role that 1524 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 2: cam Lewis has played at times. But I think they 1525 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 2: want cam Lewis more in the safety mix knowing all 1526 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,640 Speaker 2: the change that has happened there, and Saran Neil is 1527 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 2: no longer on this roster and he at times has 1528 01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 2: served as Taron Johnson's backup, so I think that is 1529 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,680 Speaker 2: a role that's open to day Kwon Hardy if he 1530 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 2: can prove himself worthy. Gotta take a break here when 1531 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 2: we come back. Some final thoughts from the obl Fan 1532 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 2: Friday Mailbag. Final questions there, We'll tackle those when we 1533 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 1534 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, final segment here on 1535 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,760 Speaker 2: a one Bill's Live Obel Friday Fan mail Bag edition. 1536 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 2: Chris Brown Maddi glab with you, and we've got one 1537 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 2: final question to pull out of the mail bag here. 1538 01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 2: It's a two part question from Connor, who asks, if 1539 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 2: Shakir has a breakout season this year and Bean re 1540 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 2: signs him to a long term deal, what do you 1541 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 2: think it will look like? Two? Who is your dark 1542 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 2: horse player to make the fifty three man roster. Let's 1543 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 2: take the first one. I think it can. I think 1544 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 2: we can kind of ballpark it, but I think we 1545 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,639 Speaker 2: have to know what the stats look like. I mean, 1546 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 2: you're saying breakout season, so I'm assuming we're over a 1547 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 2: thousand yards. Yeahmark, We're probably over sixty receptions, so you're 1548 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 2: probably talking like a seventy five yard reception, maybe eleven 1549 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,680 Speaker 2: hundred yard season, and probably eight or nine touchdowns. Like 1550 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,320 Speaker 2: that's a breakout season. You know that would warrant a 1551 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 2: contract extension. I would say, so where do you go? There? 1552 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 2: Are you in a Miro Saint Brown territory? I don't 1553 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 2: know if you are. Because it's one year of giant production. 1554 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:13,719 Speaker 2: I think I think they might wait. They might wait, 1555 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,840 Speaker 2: and maybe not, maybe not, because he would be entering 1556 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 2: the last year of his deal, his rookie contract. So 1557 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're probably at least in the 1558 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 2: Gabe Davis contract territory, which was what three years, thirty 1559 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 2: nine million, you're probably in that area. You're probably in 1560 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,600 Speaker 2: thirty somewhere in the thirteen to fifteen million dollar a 1561 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,840 Speaker 2: year range after one giant year of production for a 1562 01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 2: guy who's entering his prime. 1563 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,639 Speaker 3: I'm looking at other wide receivers who kind of are 1564 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 3: around there. Darnell Mooney is on a thirty nine million 1565 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 3: dollar contract right now, and the. 1566 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 2: Only reason I put it there and I don't put 1567 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 2: it higher, is because it's only one year of production. 1568 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 2: So if you want to do that, I think there'll 1569 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 2: be more cap space to certainly accommodate a contract of 1570 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:06,240 Speaker 2: that size. I don't know. If I don't know if 1571 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 2: you have to even go that high necessarily, you might 1572 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,000 Speaker 2: be able to get him for ten or eleven a year. 1573 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm crazy, but I think if those are the 1574 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 2: numbers you're dealing with, because I just don't see. I 1575 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 2: think that the democratic share of the passing targets aren't 1576 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 2: going to allow him to have like a fifteen hundred 1577 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 2: yard season, you know what I mean? 1578 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 3: I agree with what's on this roster, and also it's 1579 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 3: going to continue to be on this roster. I think 1580 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 3: about what we talked about in the last segment, him 1581 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,080 Speaker 3: and Dalton Kincaid, the role that they will play together, 1582 01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,679 Speaker 3: the targets share that you can see those two getting. 1583 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 3: It's also the Bills have kind of laid out what 1584 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 3: they want to do this season in terms of who 1585 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 3: they want to pay. Would they pivot from that at 1586 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 3: all by signing not saying that closed care is going 1587 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,160 Speaker 3: to be the biggest, going to be the highest paid 1588 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 3: wide receiver when his contract comes around, because he's not 1589 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 3: going to. But do you want to go down a 1590 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,000 Speaker 3: road like that with and not saying that he shouldn't 1591 01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 3: be on the roster. He definitely should and I would 1592 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 3: love to see him sign another contract here, sign an 1593 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 3: extension here. But it'll be interesting to see what those 1594 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,639 Speaker 3: numbers look like by the time it's time to talk 1595 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,679 Speaker 3: about an extension with him. 1596 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so dark horse to make the roster? 1597 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 3: Who you got, Oh gosh. 1598 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 2: Just throw somebody out there that you. 1599 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,400 Speaker 3: You throw somebody out there. I was thinking about Khalil 1600 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 3: and money. 1601 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I would say on the defensive 1602 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 2: side of the ball, there's a couple of jobs there. 1603 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 2: I'll just throw it out there and say Kyen Brown 1604 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 2: is a dark horse corner. Unless they add dark horse 1605 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,479 Speaker 2: like real sleeper. 1606 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 3: I'll say Justin Shorter, Okay, see what he can do. 1607 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 2: I thought about him too. We'll catch on Monday radio only. 1608 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 6: Hey,