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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out Podcast.

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Speaker 1: If I sound a little different, it's because I got

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Speaker 1: a head cold. The cold has come out of retirement.

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Speaker 1: It's like Eric Wettle went away from a couple of

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Speaker 1: it got me good. I actually got I went on

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Speaker 1: the Herd, I got called up to the big leagues,

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Speaker 1: went on TV today. I almost said like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: can we push it back? I I can barely talk.

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Speaker 1: But then I'm like, you know, sometimes you gotta play

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Speaker 1: injured talk for a living, and it's not always gonna

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Speaker 1: be perfect. If I can talk, and and you want

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Speaker 1: me to come on television, I'm there no matter how

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Speaker 1: I sound. And um, I also have to do a

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Speaker 1: the bills here. And so we're gonna do a podcast

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Speaker 1: today three and out. Um, you guys know the drill

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, actually, a lot a lot

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Speaker 1: going on. I think we'll push the Middlecoff mail bag,

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Speaker 1: which is at John Middlecoff side up in those d

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Speaker 1: m s to the weekend. We've been doing that the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. It's had success, and I think

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Speaker 1: we'll add it to the weekend. A lot of you guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. I feel like I have seven

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Speaker 1: I don't live under rock I've watched all those shows.

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Speaker 1: Carl Icon Crazy investor kind of Gordon Gecko of Wall Street. Uh,

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Speaker 1: gonna be very very difficult for Brian Goodkins because they

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Speaker 1: don't teach you in Scout school how to manage people

424
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: that you either have that or you don't. They don't

425
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: teach you how to deal with people that are not

426
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: like you. And listen, I like people not being like me.

427
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: I like people to be different. You know. The social

428
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: media wants everyone to be the same. It's it's it's

429
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Speaker 1: why I hate the media. They're all, especially the sports media,

430
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 1: not if I present of them, all say do and

431
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: think the same way. To me, that's fucking boring. When

432
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: you get predictable, I'm out. It's like I want predictability,

433
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: maybe with like my income streams, but like with the

434
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Speaker 1: people I associate with, Like I like some curveballs, I

435
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: like things to keep me on my toes. I don't

436
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: want to get I get bored fast, and so dealing

437
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: with unprick unpredictability can be very very difficult. And I

438
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't think just base. I don't know the guy, but

439
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be very difficult for Goodikins

440
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: to handle the situation, just like it would be for

441
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: any young GM to handle the situation. But he deserves

442
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: a standing applause if you're a Green Bay Packer fan. One.

443
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: He gets a lot of credit for hiring the coach

444
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: who Aaron Rodgers clearly loves. If Aaron Rodgers does stay

445
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: and doesn't ask for a trade, a big reason he'd

446
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: be doing that is because of Matt Lafleur and the

447
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: other thing. Roger said this on McAfee show. He said

448
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: this on his m v P speech, and Gudakins was like, yeah,

449
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: we've done a lot to quote unquote improve our relationship.

450
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: We've spent a lot of times talking because let's face it, relationships,

451
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 1: whether they're personal or their professional, they you know, if

452
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: you care about that relationship, it takes some work. And

453
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: sometimes we all can live in our own little bubble

454
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: and not realize the way other people are thinking. And

455
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: Gudakins was forced into it. But once he was forced

456
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: into it, some people might have screwed that up. And

457
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: not only did he not screw it up, he put

458
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Speaker 1: Aaron in a position, the team in a position, with

459
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Speaker 1: everything he did around him and Aaron's very happy with

460
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: him right now, so it's gonna come down to money.

461
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: Uh and maybe just the drama of Aaron likes this.

462
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Speaker 1: But I I give a lot of credit to Gudakins

463
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Speaker 1: for figuring this situation aation out and I think everyone's

464
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron is easy to make fun of when

465
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: he started talking about thirteen day cleanse and puking and

466
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, eating dinner with the Buddhists. You know why

467
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: because most people don't do that and uh, it's listen,

468
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: that's not my cup of tea. You won't find me.

469
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Speaker 1: And I would imagine many people listening to this eating

470
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Speaker 1: with Buddhists. But Aeron's into that. You know, some people

471
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: are just into different things. And honestly, that makes you know,

472
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Speaker 1: this country kind of cool. Not everyone has to think

473
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Speaker 1: the same. Another big guy that's just you know, just

474
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a drama queen. I know he

475
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Speaker 1: changed his Instagram and uh put a picture of him

476
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Speaker 1: I think when he was in high school. He's from

477
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Speaker 1: the Virginia areas Russell Wilson and unlike Aaron Rodgers, that

478
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: kind of laid it on the table, was like, we

479
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: gotta figure it out. This year or I'm gone, I'm

480
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna demand a trade. I'm gonna go, like we all

481
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: kind of know where Aaron's going. He's either gonna say

482
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Speaker 1: I'm coming back to Green Bay or you guys have

483
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: to trade me. And even when you watch gooda can

484
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: stock like, if he demands a trade, they're gonna rum.

485
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: They would be kind of screwed because Jordan's loves not

486
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: that good. They'd have to get another quarterback. But that

487
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: situation they're in, this other guy is obsessed. Like, here's

488
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: the one thing I give Aaron Rodgers at this point

489
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: in time, he's not really obsessed with his image. I mean,

490
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Speaker 1: he's talking about some pretty outrageous things. And I'm not

491
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: talking about the the COVID stuff. Honestly, it didn't bother

492
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: me at all like it did the media. They're like,

493
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, It's like yeah whatever. But I'm more

494
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: talking about the stuff that he just told McAfee. Even

495
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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee's face when he told him about eating dinner

496
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: with the Buddhists and the and the cleanse. I mean,

497
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: it was just he gave a reaction like we all

498
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: would have. It was it was hard to comprehend, but

499
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is obsessed with being liked. All he cares

500
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: about is everyone is personal image. Honestly, I think Kindo

501
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Colin loves him. Fraud's the wrong word. I just think

502
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: he's like a caricature, Like I don't even know if

503
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: he's a real human. I often think this about politicians,

504
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: like are they even real humans? When the cam goes

505
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: off and they just go home and they're sitting there

506
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: with their wife or like their brother today, Oh god,

507
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm fooling these fucking idiots. These guys don't have any

508
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: clue coming or do they stay in character? Because if

509
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: they stay in character, that's insane, Like you just are

510
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: you guys different species in us? Like does Russell talk

511
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: like that? But if Russell wants to get traded and

512
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of out there, he's gonna have to demand

513
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: a trade because under no circumstances are John Schneider and

514
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll going to just randomly trade Russell Wilson. That

515
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. John Schneider is not going to

516
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: trade the best draft pick he's ever made, the best

517
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: player in the history of the franchise, just just because

518
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: he can get some picks. Back picks don't mean anything

519
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: when you trade your starting quarterback who's a Pro Bowl

520
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: level guy. Now, if Russell has the stones, if he

521
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: has the balls to not worry about the massaging is

522
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: social media image. If he tweeted out or just you know,

523
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: put out a statement through Seattle like I want to

524
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: get traded. I went through schefter, went through rap sheet.

525
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has told the Seahawks he's demanding a trade,

526
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: then yeah, he could put their feet to the fire.

527
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: He can make things uncomfortable. But is he going to

528
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: do that because last year he wanted to do it,

529
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: but he didn't have the stones to do it. He

530
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: kind of dipped his foot into the uh, into the

531
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: shallow and he's like, well, you know, I don't really

532
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: want to go, But if they were going to get

533
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: rid of me, they could trade me to these four places.

534
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: Like who talks like that, Like just say you want

535
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: to trade or say you want to stay. And he

536
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: played this political standpoint all season long on all these topics,

537
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be the same thing. It's

538
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: just gonna be kind of cloudy. It's not gonna be

539
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: black and white. It's gonna be in this gray area.

540
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I kind of want to stay, but

541
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: I'll see what they do then maybe I'll push it

542
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: and that at least say this. For Aaron Rodgers at least,

543
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: he's been pretty direct. Last year, He's like, I want

544
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: more input. Boom got more input this year. It's like,

545
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you if I'm gonna stay or go.

546
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: Russell's you know, as we used to say in the

547
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: radio bill, just sitting on the fence, pick a side.

548
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: You're three years old. If you want to stay, they'll

549
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: goal in on you. If you want to force your

550
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: way out, go force your way out because you can

551
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: ultimately these n these NFL quarterbacks kind of like NBA players.

552
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: If Russell Wilson told John Snyder and Pete Carroll I'm

553
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: and he never would because his image, I'm never gonna

554
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: play another down for this franchise. I'm never gonna play

555
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: another down, they would trade him because think of what

556
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: they get. They get like Jalen Hurts and four ones

557
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: and just kind of reset their franchise. Now, they don't

558
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: want to do that. I don't blame them. If I

559
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: was them, I wouldn't want to do that either, but

560
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: if he ultimately wants to go, I'm just tired of

561
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: talking about Russell Wilson's trade potential. He has to ask

562
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: for a trade, and when he truly does, then we

563
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: can talk about it. But until he does, we're just

564
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna talk about I mean, he's the ultimate hypothetical. Uh

565
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: some other stories, Schefter said on the PF PFF podcast.

566
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: Did Jimmy Garoppolo, Uh could not get traded? Jimmy Garoppolos

567
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: getting traded, And if he doesn't get traded, the forty

568
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Niners deserved to get destroyed. They traded three first round

569
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: picks for Trey Lance. They gave him a red shirt

570
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: ear Now, Jimmy Garoppolos had to make twenty seven million dollars.

571
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: You need that money to use to build up your team.

572
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: And the only way for train Lands to get better

573
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: is to play football. You have entire offseason, you have

574
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: an entire training camp. Go sign a cheap veteran like

575
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: a Marcus Mariota and start the Tray Lance era. Now

576
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I understand Kyle Shanahan going, well, we can only get

577
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: a fifth for Jimmy Garoppolo, why wouldn't we just keep him?

578
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: And the reason you keep them or I mean trade

579
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: them is because you need that money. Having that money

580
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: allows your caps to be bigger and allows you to

581
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: sign more players. So I don't and not Adam Schefter

582
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: you just said he could see it. I cannot see it.

583
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo will be traded in the next ten days,

584
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: would be my guess. I'm recording this maybe a little longer,

585
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe the next fourteen days, he will be traded. It'll

586
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: be unofficial before the league ear starts. Uh. Florio Mike

587
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: Florio runs Pro football Talk. You ever heard of him.

588
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: He can be kind of annoying on social media, said

589
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: that teams are willing to trade for Deshaun Watson even

590
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: before his civil cases. And and the way that I've

591
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: heard other people talking about this is not a lawyer,

592
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: even though I watched some lawyer shows. Actually in inventing

593
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Anna's kind of a lawyer show is that I guess

594
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: he has to settle or each individual civil case it's

595
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: on its own. Merit Like he can't just make all

596
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: of them go away in one thing. Everyone is an

597
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: individual case. So it's gonna be a pain in his ass.

598
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it clearly is. And again I'm not assuming

599
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: guilt or innocence. I got no say, I have no clue.

600
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to stick up for him or not

601
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: stick up for him. I just know that he has

602
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: to figure out on a case by case basis. I

603
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: I know me personally, if I was a GM or

604
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: I was a coach, there's no way to know for

605
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: sure that not one of these cases gonna stick. I

606
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But I've said before in this podcast,

607
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm not naive enough this pro sports, We're not They're

608
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: not taking moral high horse stances. And the NFL is

609
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: not the NBA. They're not faking anything. They're trying to

610
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: win football games and print money. So someone will trade

611
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: for this guy. And I think it's fair to say that,

612
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo, this guy is going to get traded

613
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: for in before free agency. Now, you know, if you're

614
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: case Ario. The problem is, I do think he loses

615
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: a little leverage with these cases hanging over him. If

616
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: he was just a high character, never been in trouble

617
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: like Ultimately, even if he's completely innocent on it this,

618
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: I do red flag him moving forward. He made a

619
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: terrible decision, and it's one thing to like, you know

620
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: your massage therapist, you started hooking up, he started dating

621
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: him on the side. He was banging every massage therapist

622
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: and out like that's I'd like my quarterback to have

623
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: some common sense from like, you know, there's a balancing

624
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: act in everything, And to me, Deshaun Watson got a

625
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: little out of pocket on this. And that's assuming he

626
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: did nothing wrong, which I know people in the NFL

627
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: think that he didn't. I've talked to people in the

628
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: NFL who have done their due diligence that believes he

629
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: just used this basically to get laid. Now back to

630
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: what I said, how could you as a GM. They're like, hey,

631
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: three ones in a two pull the trigger? Well, what

632
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: if one of these went a little haywire and it's

633
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: not gonna go away, and that hangs over your hat,

634
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: your head, and once you get into the situation of

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, The ni EL is pretty crazy. Usc I've

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Speaker 1: come around. USC is gonna have such a huge advantage

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Speaker 1: come just moving forward with the n i L. The

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams making over five million dollars I saw on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram feed today. Did this real estate like venture

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Speaker 1: capitalist firm in southern California is one of his n

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Speaker 1: i LS. What does that even mean? They're just funneling

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Speaker 1: him cash now. Caleb Williams is unique. I don't think

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Speaker 1: a guy coming out of high school would have made

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Speaker 1: five million dollars. We saw him played Oklahoma. He's a

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Speaker 1: star quarterback. He'll be an NFL star. That would be strong.

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00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: He's got a ways to go, but he's an NFL

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Speaker 1: level prospect. Me he's a big time college player. He's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got to improve when he's young, but

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Speaker 1: part of his values he's already played. But that's pretty nuts.

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Speaker 1: And a couple of people have hit me, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about these guys at the n I l

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Speaker 1: and start getting paid and once they get to the draft.

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna go like top five and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go to a team and I've already made

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Speaker 1: five ten million dollars, do I have a little juice?

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Speaker 1: Do I say, you don't what Jacks? Don't draft me?

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Speaker 1: I ain't coming there. We're gonna see how this all

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Speaker 1: shakes out, because wants to start quarterbacks are getting five

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Speaker 1: six million dollars. You know USC, Texas, we saw Texas

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Speaker 1: A and m Ohio State, some of these programs, like

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Speaker 1: it was already always a big deal. And you heard

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Speaker 1: on the underground, you know the big programs back when

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Speaker 1: you brown bagged and you still get brown bagged, I

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Speaker 1: think you get double you get brown bagged, and you

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Speaker 1: get the stuff that's above board. You know, a top

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00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: flight guy would get four or five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: in basketball or football. I'm talking an elite guy in

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Speaker 1: football because football there's so many Like like a basketball guy,

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Speaker 1: there's a big difference between five million dollars and four

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00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: dollars in cash. You know, hell, I I'll pay taxes

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Speaker 1: on five million dollars, right, So it's there's a lot

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: of money. It's gonna be interesting if some of these

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Speaker 1: guys have the same drive and determination when they're I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine at nineteen twenty years old, still being in

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Speaker 1: college just having I mean do the math, having that

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Speaker 1: type cash come in. Are they paying your quarterly? I

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00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: mean are they Are they paying you lump sums of

689
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: a million dollars? You just get a million dollars in

690
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: your account? That would be pretty nuts. I give a

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00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: lot of these kids a lot of credit if they're

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Speaker 1: able to stay in the straight and narrow, stay focused,

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Speaker 1: stay war card, go to class, you know, lead a

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Speaker 1: somewhat normal life because I don't care who you are.

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00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: You give a nineteen year old five million dollars and

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00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: things get weird fast. At least in the pros, like

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00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: in the NBA with a nineteen year he's around other pros,

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00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: like ultimately in college Caleb Williams around a lot of

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Speaker 1: other guys. They have no money. So at least when

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Speaker 1: you're drafted the number one overall pick like Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: one and done well, Karl Anthony Town's a ton of money, d'

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00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: angelo Russell a ton of money. Like other guys on

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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: his team have more money than him. It's not in college.

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Speaker 1: Just like this guy is making five million dollars, the

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: next highest guy might be making like three grand, and

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00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys making zero. It's like, hey, Caleb,

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Speaker 1: you want to go to dinner on you, buddy, I'm there.

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Speaker 1: Jordan's Love. Gudikins talked about this. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: there's a market for Jordan's Love because if you're the Packers,

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00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: it makes no sense to give Jordan Love away. If

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Speaker 1: someone's like, hey, I'll give you a six round pick

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Speaker 1: for Jordan Love, because to me, that's kind of his value. Right.

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Speaker 1: We saw Gardner Mitschew, who's put much better tape, go

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Speaker 1: for a six round pick. Where Jordan's love. I mean,

715
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: in the couple of games that we've seen him play.

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00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: I guess last year we just saw him play the game.

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00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: I guess it was just the game. He looks like

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00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: a major. He just looks like a backup quarterback. And

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00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. Now, ideally you don't want

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Speaker 1: to draft in the first round backup quarterbacks. But if

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Speaker 1: you're the Packers and you have a backup quarterback making

722
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars, like, it's a pretty good deal.

723
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: You know him, you like him, just keeme around, Like

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00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: to me, George, there's a decent chance that Jordan Love

725
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: just stays on the team for like four or five years,

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Speaker 1: probably not the fifth year because you're not gonna pick

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Speaker 1: up a fifth year option, but just on your team

728
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Speaker 1: for four years. Now. Ultimately, it's not the greatest draft

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00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: pick up all time, actually pretty shitty. But you got

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback for four years, you just use your

731
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Speaker 1: first round pick on it. But I do not expect

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Speaker 1: Jordan's Love to get traded. I couldn't see any team

733
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Speaker 1: trading anything of value. And if you're the Packers, unless

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Speaker 1: you've got some value, like I know my backup quarterback,

735
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I like them. And ultimately, if Aaron goes down, I'm

736
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: probably screwed either way. But at least I have this

737
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: guy that we can keep hopefully building up and has

738
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: some talent. Uh So, the USFL had a draft. When

739
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: you see the first seven picks of the USFL and

740
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: they're all the quarterbacks. You realize why normal people are

741
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: never gonna watch the a F, the XFL, the USFL.

742
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: The reason we watch Alabama in Texas and USC his

743
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: star players and star coaches. The reason we watch Bill's

744
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs second round of the playoffs is Josh Allen and Mahomes.

745
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: The reason we watched Justin Herbert played Patrick Mahomes, Tom

746
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Brady play Matt Stafford. You need star power these leagues.

747
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Louletta, who was terrible in the pros, who's not

748
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: a pro quarterback, got drafted number one overall. So once

749
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: I see the list of guys like that in half

750
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: of them, I don't even know. I go this league's doomed.

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00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: It's also why the Rock. When the Rock did that,

752
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know what he did for the Super

753
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: Bowl right screaming into the microphone with his like burgundy

754
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: red and uh. It made sense when a couple of

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00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: days later he's a part owner in the XFL and

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00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: they're merging with the NFL. I bet the NFL is

757
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: gonna try to pump them some practice squad type guys

758
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: and try to help with maybe some young coaches. It's

759
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: a business partnership. That's why The Rock was on the

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00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: Super Bowl because it was like, you scratch my back,

761
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: I'll scratch your back. We're business partners. I bet the

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00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: NFL didn't even need to pay him to do that.

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Speaker 1: They paid him through partnering with the XFL, and which

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Speaker 1: he bought a couple of years ago. And I give

765
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: the Rock credit on this one. Buying the XFL doesn't

766
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: make much sense on its own merit, but it does

767
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: make it does make sense if you're gonna partner with

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And ultimately, can you start getting some of

769
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Speaker 1: their practice squad quarterbacks? Can you go, Hey, the Packers

770
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: are playing the Forts. In terms of the XFL teams,

771
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Let's watch their two quarterbacks they both draft in the

772
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: sixth round. Might get some eyeballs. Hey, the forty Niners

773
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: backup running back who's been on the practical on a

774
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: couple of years is playing the Cowboys. You know, star

775
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: middle linebacker who's been a year on the practicequad. Star

776
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: would be strong. But you know what I'm saying, all

777
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: these teams you start associate eating with it. It's like, oh,

778
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: this XFL team has a guy from Seattle as a

779
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: guy from the forty Niners as a guy from the Ramps,

780
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: get some eyeballs. That's what you have to do to

781
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: have any of these leagues have a chance. The reason

782
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: the USFL once upon a time had a glimmer of hope,

783
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: guys like Reggie White, Steve Young, and Herchel Walker. They

784
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: attempted to have the star power. With no star power,

785
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: you have nothing. With no star power, you have golf

786
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: pre Tiger Woods, you know what I mean. That's that's

787
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: what two thousand twenty two moving forward is all about,

788
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: and it's really been about in the Internet age. How

789
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: are you going to draw people's attention? Where you draw

790
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: people's attention. You're never gonna get the best players in

791
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 1: these second fiddle leagues. But if you can get people

792
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: associated with the star franchises, the Steelers guy, the Eagles guy,

793
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys guy, you got, you know, a puncher's chance.

794
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: And you had to partner with the NFL. And the

795
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Rock clearly is a good business man. He's making a

796
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: ton of money and every avenue of his life, and

797
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: UH interested to see kind of how that whole thing

798
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: shakes out. I guess, last, but not at least J C.

799
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Jackson star would be strong but really really good cornerback

800
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. Uh is acting like the

801
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Patriots aren't gonna pay him, Like, yeah, bro, you've been

802
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: watching the Patriots for the last couple of decades. They

803
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: usually don't pay a premium for non premiums. You're a

804
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: good player, But I couldn't pay j C. Jackson twenty

805
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: two million dollars a year. And the reality is is

806
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: when you hit free agency, you typically get more because

807
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: you get multiple people bidding on you and you have

808
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: a little leverage. J C. Jackson is an above average

809
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: corner it's great ball skills, But I couldn't pay him.

810
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Belichick knows this. Several years ago he paid Stepan Gilmour

811
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: peak money and it worked out why because Gilmore was

812
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: an elite talent. J C. Jackson is not. But but

813
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: j C. Jackson, you watch if Bill lets, some truly

814
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: walk is gonna get paid, and he's gonna get a

815
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: lot of money, just like you know, some random guard

816
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: who's probably a four million dollar player is gonna hit

817
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: free agency and some these teams with terrible offensive lines

818
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: are gonna give him nine million dollars. If you're a player,

819
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: you want to hit free agency if you're like a

820
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: legitimate starter. Obviously, if you're a star, you you know,

821
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Davante Adams would love to hit free agency, It's never

822
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But if you're just a hot you know,

823
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: a above average starter, and you hit free agency, you

824
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: get paid like a Pro Bowl player, especially this year,

825
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: the Caps going back up, A bunch of teams need

826
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: help and a bunch of different spots. Um, I think

827
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: a stupid amount of money is gonna give be given

828
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: out to players that aren't worth it, But that happens

829
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Speaker 1: every single year in free agency, and this year is

830
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be no different. Appreciate everyone battling through with me. Um.

831
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Speaker 1: I tried my best, gave it all, gave it all

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Speaker 1: I had. I hope you guys have a good weekend.

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00:42:45,920 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: I need to rest and recover and uh talk soon. Audios.

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Speaker 1: The volume