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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us as we are believe it or not, eight days

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Speaker 1: until Thanksgiving. It's also been eight days since the midterm elections.

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Speaker 1: Many places have started to officially call the House for Republicans.

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Speaker 1: We feel very confident based on the numbers that that

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Speaker 1: is the case. Just depends on where you are looking

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Speaker 1: right now as to whether that is going to be

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Speaker 1: officially called. We have got a lot to discuss throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of today's program. But of course, the number

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Speaker 1: one story from last night was Donald Trump, as he

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Speaker 1: told you he would do last week on this program,

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Speaker 1: officially announcing that he's going to run for president in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And we will go ahead and play

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Speaker 1: the audio of that official announcement last night from Marlago.

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Speaker 1: Here is what it sounds. In order to make America

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Speaker 1: great and glorious again, I am tonight announcing my candidacy

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Speaker 1: for president of the United States. All right, So, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I watched the entire speech as it were, They carried

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Speaker 1: much of it live on Fox News during Sean Hannity's show,

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Speaker 1: they cut in and out a couple of times to

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Speaker 1: allow people to react. I guess what maybe stood out

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Speaker 1: the most to me about the entire address. It was

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Speaker 1: very subdued, relatively speaking for Donald Trump felt also as

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Speaker 1: a result, very presidential. And he played a lot of

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Speaker 1: the greatest hits from his twenty sixteen campaign as a

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Speaker 1: part of this announcement. And also I think one reason

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Speaker 1: why it was relatively subdued was because I guess it

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Speaker 1: even remember when Trump attacked Glenn Junkin, when he attacked

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Speaker 1: on the Sciantists, when he went after a lot of

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Speaker 1: different people with all of those statements. I think that

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Speaker 1: that was generally not received very well. And so the

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Speaker 1: argument is out there, and I think he followed basically

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Speaker 1: what we said on this program. Hey, it's got to

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Speaker 1: be a forward looking campaign. The thing that he said

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Speaker 1: and I think he got this one hundred percent correct,

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Speaker 1: and I wish more Republicans would be saying it. He

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Speaker 1: said one of the first things that he would do

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Speaker 1: when he came into office is to bring back everybody

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Speaker 1: who lost their jobs in the military over the COVID

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Speaker 1: shot requirements. He would end all Biden vaccine mandates, and

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Speaker 1: he would give back pay to all of those soldiers

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Speaker 1: who lost their jobs over the COVID shot. Thank god,

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Speaker 1: somebody is finally saying that. That's what jumped out the

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Speaker 1: most to me about the entire address. What about you, Buck,

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Speaker 1: what stood out to you? Anything surprise you? How would

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Speaker 1: you assess the overall announcement itself? So much interesting stuff

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Speaker 1: happening here when you get in this early, this far

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Speaker 1: ahead of anyone else who may run, And keep in

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Speaker 1: mind there will be people who may decide to run

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Speaker 1: who have no chance at all, but they use it

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Speaker 1: as a chance to get their name out there and

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Speaker 1: sell books. You know, somebody who's kind of more of

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Speaker 1: they'll be press associated with that. In the months ahead.

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Speaker 1: Trump is in super early, and this is going to

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Speaker 1: create I think some advantages and some challenges. One thing

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Speaker 1: that does seem that that's I think stuck out to

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Speaker 1: was that Trump was very clearly trying to take a

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Speaker 1: common presidential tone throughout. It wasn't you know, rock'em sock'em

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Speaker 1: intentionally presidential tone. I think the decision not to talk

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Speaker 1: have any confusion about that from a pure tactical perspective.

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Speaker 1: Never mind anything else that's not going to work. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have our friend a Ryan ger Dusky joining

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Speaker 1: us in the second hour today the program, who is

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Speaker 1: a political consultant. All he does is look at the polling,

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Speaker 1: the exit polling, the data, the numbers, the races, and

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Speaker 1: we'll break down some of the good, the bad, and

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Speaker 1: the and the ugly from this election. There was some

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Speaker 1: is in fact possible that today during the show, we

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Speaker 1: I mean it's basically the House is GOP now right,

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Speaker 1: I think that Trump We're two years out from the election,

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Speaker 1: The de facto leader of the Republican Party came out

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. I don't think anyone would really dispute that,

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Speaker 1: got to see, man, I mean, I want to see

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Speaker 1: how he does in these first six months. The guy

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Speaker 1: pulled off something of a political miracle, it seems in

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Speaker 1: stacks up. So I'm enthusiastic. I mean, I'm happy that

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Speaker 1: in the midterms. Nobody was more ticked off by the

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Speaker 1: way than Clay and I. I mean, we're sitting here,

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Speaker 1: we're furious for days about how this thing went. But

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Speaker 1: now we understand how it went that way, and I

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Speaker 1: understand not only what's bad about Biden, but what could

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Speaker 1: be so much better under a Republican administration. The thing

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Speaker 1: that I would say is the announcement is unprecedented to

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Speaker 1: I think they may change their calendar. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: Republicans end up doing. But for Trump to be in

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Speaker 1: if he is indicted now, it's very easy for Trump

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Speaker 1: want to run against Donald Trump. Now. They were excited

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Speaker 1: think about it a little bit counterintuitively, that Democrats are

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Speaker 1: But the indictment of Trump, which we believe would focus

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Speaker 1: And can we just we're going down the rabbit hole here,

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Speaker 1: everyone needs to understand that. Remember, the media spent three years,

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Speaker 1: people that say, well, you know, the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 1: which it's completely fair to point that out. That is true.

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Speaker 1: that's totally unreasonable. Wow exactly. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: So if they bring him in the spring of twenty three,

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Speaker 1: buck he could already be the nominee. You know, by

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Speaker 1: March of twenty four will probably know who the Republican

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Speaker 1: does it rally the Trump? First of all, are they

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Speaker 1: Trump's announcement. Unprecedented, it's fair to say, meaning that no one,

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Speaker 1: your point on twenty sixteen, do you remember who in

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Speaker 1: are you talking about? Jeb exclamation Jeb exclamation point. Jeb

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Speaker 1: And so what I would say about all this is you,

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Speaker 1: I fundamentally reject that. If everybody decides, hey, I want

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Speaker 1: to get out and Trump is the guy, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: but I think it actually makes Trump a weaker candidate.

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Speaker 1: For your point, Buck, you have to hone yourself by

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Speaker 1: getting in that ring. The fact that Trump eliminated whatever

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Speaker 1: it was, eighteen other contenders in twenty sixteen made him

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Speaker 1: an infinitely stronger candidate. And I think, Buck, if you

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Speaker 1: go watch, and I'm curious if Trump himself would even acknowledge,

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Speaker 1: you go watch that first debate that he had against

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Speaker 1: He only had two second when he cleaned his clock

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Speaker 1: Trump debate performances, I think one reason he was awful,

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Speaker 1: and you often see this from presidents is because they're

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Speaker 1: not in fighting shape because they're used to being president

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Speaker 1: and they're not on the hustings out on the trail

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Speaker 1: having to sell themselves. And so this was why Trump

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Speaker 1: was bad in the first debate. He needs the reps,

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Speaker 1: he needs the practice, whoever the nominee is, and a

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Speaker 1: good scrap within the family of the GOP is not

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Speaker 1: is not a thing that lasts forever. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: think about Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, Yes, you know

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Speaker 1: they they were They were swinging at each other like

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Speaker 1: taking each other's heads off in the primary. And then

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Speaker 1: when Trump, you know one, it was almost like at

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Speaker 1: the end of a really tough boxing match. You'll you

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Speaker 1: see this, the two boxers actually like hug it out,

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Speaker 1: you know. Yep. Ted Cruz became a huge ally of

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Speaker 1: that capacity. So, look, it's politics like things. Things might

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Speaker 1: get a little rough in the primary between some of

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Speaker 1: the some of the people that are contenders here, but

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Speaker 1: they want the most powerful job in the world, right

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Speaker 1: Like this is the other thing. You know, they're not

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Speaker 1: They're not trying to be the favorite, you know, neighborhood

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Speaker 1: third grade social studies teacher or something. Not that there's

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Speaker 1: anything wrong with that, but you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a little bit of a throwdown,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine. One thing I would like to hear

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Speaker 1: from Trump. Remember in twenty sixteen, Trump famously refused to

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Speaker 1: say that he wouldn't run if he was not a

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Speaker 1: Republican nominee. Remember that, like everybody else raise their hand

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Speaker 1: and said, I will support the nominee. I do think

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Speaker 1: my big concern about a contested primary is we need

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Speaker 1: to hear from Donald Trump and answer to that question

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Speaker 1: if you were not the nominee. Let's say that Glenn

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Speaker 1: Yunkin beats him. People decide out there in the primary

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Speaker 1: that they like Glenn Yunkan or they like Ron De

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Speaker 1: Santis or Mike Pompeo, whoever else. I want we know

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Speaker 1: that De Santis and Pompeo and Glenn Yuncin, I think

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Speaker 1: they would all do their best to elect a president

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. What I want Donald Trump to answer,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's important, is if you were not

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Speaker 1: the nominee, will you pledge to help whoever that nominee

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Speaker 1: is to get elected in twenty twenty four, Because if

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Speaker 1: Trump is gonna say hey, I'm the nominee or I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna run independent, then I think that should factor in

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Speaker 1: in how people make decisions. And also I think that

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Speaker 1: would reflect really poorly on Trump. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would do that, but I'd like for him to answer

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Speaker 1: that question when there are going to be debates going

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Speaker 1: on between all of these different contestants, wouldn't you like

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Speaker 1: to hear the answer to that. I mean, he could

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Speaker 1: lie and say yes, I'm gonna pledge, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: answer it. To his credit in twenty sixteen, he didn't say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm all in for whoever the other nominee is. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to think that in twenty four, since he's the

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Speaker 1: head of the Republican Party, that he wouldn't take his

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Speaker 1: ball and go home and run as an independent candidate

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Speaker 1: and guarantee the Democrat wins again. I think that there

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Speaker 1: may be an expectation out there that no one's going

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Speaker 1: to run against Trump. I see this. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: have people that write in listen to the show. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how many of there are. I think it

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Speaker 1: is highly unlikely that there will be no competitors to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the primary. Someone may think that Trump

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Speaker 1: will sweep them all away, and that's, of course, fine,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know. I can't see the future,

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Speaker 1: but it would be I mean, what would I would

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Speaker 1: give it ten to one odds that there will be

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Speaker 1: people that get into this primary again and Trump, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you would have to You would have to

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Speaker 1: give me a ton of money to wager against their being.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're massive favorites. You said ten to one.

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Speaker 1: I think I would give like one to you know,

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Speaker 1: dollars if somebody didn't run, right, Like, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a massive favorite, that he's going to have several different

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Speaker 1: contenders and every dusts. Remember it's also it's just too

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Speaker 1: much of a brand building exercise. I know that may

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Speaker 1: sound a bit cynical, but for a lot of people

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Speaker 1: it's they They go from being even like a congressman

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Speaker 1: or maybe even a businessman who used to be in politics,

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Speaker 1: to someone more on the national stage. You sell more books,

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Speaker 1: maybe you do another run. So there's gonna be I

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Speaker 1: think that because there are people saying, well, no one's

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Speaker 1: gonna get it against Trump, I think that's highly unlikely.

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Speaker 1: We could be wrong, but I think that's highly unlikely.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're you're going to see some form of

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Speaker 1: think everybody should recognize that a pary that makes the

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Speaker 1: candidate better is something. There's a reason we have primaries,

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Speaker 1: and we don't just try a vote, right, We don't

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Speaker 1: just say, oh well, we don't need to hear them

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Speaker 1: debate anything else. So we shall see that. All said,

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Speaker 1: it is Trump's Republican Party right now. He is the

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Speaker 1: leader of the Republican Party right now, and it's in

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Speaker 1: his hands to make the case and to move this

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Speaker 1: thing forward. Many of the same topics debate in Washington,

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Speaker 1: you across the country. You are our brothers and sisters

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Speaker 1: and freedom, our liberty brigades, our freedom folks. And I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering what you all think about the Trump announced ment.

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Speaker 1: Clay and I've been talking about this. How do you

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Speaker 1: think it went? What are your feelings about this right

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Speaker 1: now eight hundred two A two two eight eight two

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Speaker 1: on the phone lines. We want to get your voice

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Speaker 1: into this program today on that issue. And also, if

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Speaker 1: who wrote in high guys, Trump took your suggestion, he

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Speaker 1: announced and is looking forward. We will see a more

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Speaker 1: serious and determined Trump. His campaign will be run like

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Speaker 1: a fortune five hundred company. Libs and rhinos will explode.

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Speaker 1: He will have to focus on policies and platform, not

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Speaker 1: quirks and mean tweets. I don't know will Trump win,

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Speaker 1: but he will spend two years exposing the swamp and corruption.

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Speaker 1: He will have a national stage. The party needs some

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Speaker 1: hope right now, so I know this is that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting perspective email from one of our VIPs. I think

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Speaker 1: we also have some folks who are in fact calling

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Speaker 1: in right now. Clay, who is first up right now

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Speaker 1: on the lines. I'm actually pulling it up because I

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Speaker 1: was in the email bag and now I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: find the phone lines. Do we know we got somebody?

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Speaker 1: Don't we hear? My crazy matt In. Oh, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry that was from yesterday. Go ahead, No, No, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say. I think there are maybe too many

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Speaker 1: people out there who are in the pits right now

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Speaker 1: over what happened in the midterms. I understand we wanted

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Speaker 1: won the House, which is a monster deal. And maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking too much at the positive here, But

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Speaker 1: when you look at DeSantis, when you look at what

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Speaker 1: what Greg Abbott did in Texas, there were some monster

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Speaker 1: wins from big time Republican candidates out there that I

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Speaker 1: think have kind of gotten snowed under. And you said

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Speaker 1: it earlier, Buck New York. In California broke in a

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Speaker 1: big way for Republicans. If you could change two races,

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Speaker 1: credit to Long Island in New York, no doubt, because

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Speaker 1: really well. We have Matt in Denver wants to weigh

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Speaker 1: in on the Trump announcement. Matt, welcome, Hey guys for us. Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just had a couple quick observations. Yeah, about the speech.

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Speaker 1: good point. That is a good point, because that was

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Speaker 1: miss on their parp. But Matt, what else you got? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just a couple other quick ones, hopefully. UM. One thing

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Speaker 1: I don't know where he was going with that. Um.

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Speaker 1: he's going with that one? Well, I think, sorry to

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Speaker 1: cut you off, but it's the finnel right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're losing one hundred thousand people a year and so

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Speaker 1: stringent punishment. Now, Buck, you've pointed this out. It actually

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Speaker 1: flies in the face of what they did, which was

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Speaker 1: reduced many sentences for people who had one of drug offense.

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Speaker 1: The true I'm gonna say it, and anybody who wants

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Speaker 1: to disagree with it is welcome to. But we'll have

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Speaker 1: to go back and forth on it. The having Kim

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Speaker 1: Kardashi into the Oval office and to work with Jared

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Speaker 1: on the criminal justice reform. If nothing else it wasn't

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Speaker 1: smart politically, but also it didn't work the way that

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Speaker 1: we were told it would work. This First Step Act

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Speaker 1: and all the rest of it, it has not actually

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Speaker 1: brought about the results that were So look, Trump, you know,

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Speaker 1: you make moves, you adapt, you make moves, you correct,

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Speaker 1: And last night I think was Trump trying to show

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Speaker 1: focus and some degree of willingness for self correction with

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Speaker 1: By the way, a disciplined and self correctable Trump would

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Speaker 1: be unstoppable, totally unstoppable against any politician. And I will

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Speaker 1: also point out when they were trying to reduce sentences,

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Speaker 1: we hadn't had crime skyrocket in the country, right, because

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Speaker 1: crime really took off with George Floyd. But did one

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Speaker 1: follow the other? Yeah, well that's the argument that's unfortunately

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Speaker 1: Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton ones of truth