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Speaker 1: Whatever Supert Ward Jones jam hang out with my man

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Speaker 1: Andrew Ward. We threw Hall of Famers to bring y'all

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Speaker 1: a show called a Hall of Game, a show where

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Speaker 1: we discussed boxing, sports, life and entertainment from RV.

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Speaker 2: How much better neck can you get?

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Speaker 3: Me and Roy don't always agree. The one thing you

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Speaker 3: will get is a Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: What a game?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of the Hall of Game.

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Speaker 3: I want to welcome in my co host, baddest man

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Speaker 3: on the planet for over a decade, Roy Jones Junior

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Speaker 3: from the farm at Pensacola, Florida, had brother. How you doing, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm good man. This is the Hall of Game Hotel edition.

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Speaker 3: You know me on the road. We gotta do what

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Speaker 3: we gotta do. So this got done shooting zoo for

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Speaker 3: five last night, and I mean, you gotta talk about

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Speaker 3: this ZUFA thing, man, because I didn't say some comments

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Speaker 3: where you ain't feeling it. We're gonna get into that

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Speaker 3: another day. We ain't gonna do that today, okay, but

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Speaker 3: today we got a good show and I want to

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Speaker 3: start to show off with a card that's just around

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Speaker 3: the corner. April eleventh at Toddingham Hotspurs Stadium in London, England.

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Speaker 3: Tyson Fury versus ARSLM Beck Mac Moudolf and this is

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Speaker 3: Tyson Fury's maybe fifth or sixth unretirement, So come back.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about that, but I also want

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Speaker 3: to get into the co main event, which is a

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Speaker 3: fight that I'm very excited about. Kind of being in

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Speaker 3: Regis Prograde. Kind of being is twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 3: In Regis pro Grade is thirty seven, and some would

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Speaker 3: say he's on the slide, even though he won his

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Speaker 3: last fight against Joseph Diaz.

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Speaker 2: But let me start with Tyson Fury.

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Speaker 3: He's fighting a just a big, strong Russian in Mack Moodoff,

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Speaker 3: a guy who you know, doesn't have a lot of

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Speaker 3: special effects. He's a straightforward god, but he you know,

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Speaker 3: there's videos of this guy literally wrestling and pushing against

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Speaker 2: He's just one of them type of dudes.

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Speaker 3: He's very strong, strong punch and his last fight my

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Speaker 2: Tyson Fury's last fight was a loss.

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Speaker 3: Against Alexander Usik December of twenty twenty four. Usik retired

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Speaker 3: and wanted to walk away from boxing again, and I

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Speaker 3: say again, because again this is multiple times that Tyson

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Speaker 3: Fury has done this. I understand the gright that people

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Speaker 3: have for saying, brother, you keep retiring. We know you're

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Speaker 3: not done, You're gonna come back. But I also understand

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Speaker 3: it being retired. This is not an easy sport to

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Speaker 3: A lot of identity is tied to this. Pay, skilled money, livelihood.

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Speaker 2: Is tied to this. Talk to me about this Tyson.

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Speaker 3: Fury unretirement and then delve into a little bit about

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Speaker 3: what you know about this fight.

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Speaker 1: Tysan Furia, I'm retiring is a great thing for him

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Speaker 1: because it seems to me like Tyson Fury always does

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Speaker 1: fight than he does and he's not. When he's not

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Speaker 1: the time a little bit more negative than positive. I

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Speaker 1: pretty much all the headways out there. Now Usik hadn't

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Speaker 1: But before that time, like I said, he had been

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Speaker 1: because I really know how tough life is when he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a problem with Tyson Ferry coming back.

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Speaker 3: That's that man's life, that's his career, that's his business.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I know sometimes people get it twisted

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Speaker 3: But y'all don't understand the battles.

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Speaker 2: Y'all don't know. Y'all not around for the.

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Speaker 3: Days when the retirement didn't seem like a good idea,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I respect it.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody's journey is different, everybody's road is different.

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Speaker 3: I just hope that Tyson Ferry is sticking to the

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Speaker 3: other things that he talked about, you know, staying away

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Speaker 2: You know, that have not been good for his life.

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Speaker 3: And if he still has more time in a sport, brother,

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Speaker 3: the body's gonna say I've had enough. I don't care

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Speaker 3: he looks like after the layoff, if he's kept hisself

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Speaker 2: Are created equal, they're not.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's times and I had two year layoffs

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Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see what Tyson Fury shows up,

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Speaker 2: But the kol Nate event is also an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have Connor Ben who has campaigned between

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Speaker 2: At one hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 3: What are your initial thoughts when you see a younger,

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Speaker 1: Well, Regis Program is a good friend of mine. I

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Speaker 2: Mark on his career.

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Speaker 1: Regius Prograde upset him, gonna be a super good mark

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Speaker 1: on regis our career, and it's gonna put Regis right

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a it's a road crossroads fight.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Regis can pull it off, he gets

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Speaker 3: To me, it's a crossroads fight for I think more

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Speaker 3: and I like Regis too. Man, he's one of my

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Speaker 3: O's and what I see, I appreciate the desire from

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Speaker 2: The game again, Do it as long as you can.

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Speaker 2: If that's what you want to do, that's your business.

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Speaker 3: But when I start to see the legs not be there,

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Speaker 2: That's when I have boxing is hard enough.

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Speaker 3: When everything is clicking and working, you still got to

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be very interesting to see how Regis Prograde

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Speaker 3: and that's just the way it is. So I'm looking

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Speaker 3: you know, some people say it's a cash out fight

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure there are fighters at times.

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Speaker 3: That that that map out their career and their fight

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Speaker 3: I don't have nothing left and I can't beat this guy,

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Speaker 3: and I can't turn this away.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that's what Regis did.

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Speaker 3: And what do you think about that kind of verbis

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Speaker 3: when people say things like that, oh, it's just a

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Speaker 1: It happens for some people, but it's not having it

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Speaker 1: for Regions like that. Regis is a pure, true guy

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Speaker 1: He's a real fighter. He's not after the cash out

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Speaker 1: why I said it's also a cross roads fight for

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Speaker 1: Connor two because.

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Speaker 2: Depending on how he looks, yes, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: If Connor can't dominate this fight, it's gonna say, Connor,

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Speaker 1: you ain't what we thought you were. Because, as you

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Speaker 3: The weight you had, you you are naturally bigger man.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 3: So those are the things that are gonna be weighed

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Speaker 1: And that's why I said it's a cross road fight.

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Speaker 3: And last thing on this fight kind of being he

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Speaker 3: About the disloyalty of Connor Ben and you know, how

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Speaker 3: And you know, sometimes we'll speak about the money if

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Speaker 2: I don't care how long you've.

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Speaker 3: Been with him, I don't care what your history is

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Speaker 3: very often. Oftentimes in boxing you get a stiffer test

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Speaker 3: And what promoters love to say is is when we

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Speaker 3: coming out. So did you do that because we were family?

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Speaker 3: Did you do that because I was your fighter? Did

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Speaker 3: a heartbeat. If you start to slip, if you no

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Speaker 2: And they will move on. Managers will do the same thing.

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Speaker 3: If they feel like, man, you don't have anything left

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Speaker 3: If you don't want to dig into the account and

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Speaker 1: I don't knock him for making a decision where I

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Speaker 1: do knock him for not going and having that conversation

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Speaker 2: So how do you go get the money like he did?

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Speaker 1: Go, but just go ahead a conversation with him and say, hey, look, guys,

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Speaker 1: I understand what y'all did. I really appreciate that, but

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Speaker 1: got to do that, but because of how lawyer they

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Speaker 1: they fall through a whole lot for him, they did deserve.

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Speaker 1: They did deserve a conversation before he sat in the country.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with that one hundred percent. Right, it's

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Speaker 3: how you go about it. I'm talking more. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: If you need to take it, you can take that money.

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Speaker 3: But I do agree, if you have had that kind

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Speaker 2: We can't do that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Well, listen, man, I got I gotta make a business,

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Speaker 2: You can take the money, but it's how you take

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Speaker 2: the money exactly got you.

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Speaker 1: These people have done enough for you. They fought and

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Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. I'm not here to criticize nobody.

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Speaker 1: always in perfect eyes, Mattroom, I don't always see I

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Speaker 3: I agree, but I don't agree with even though that

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Speaker 3: But like it's like one wrong, don't create a two

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Speaker 1: But he did wrong, then they did wrong, and people

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Speaker 2: What you did.

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Speaker 1: You created that, So I mean you got to get

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Speaker 2: That's all m And the wound is deeper.

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Speaker 3: You know that there's the salt poured in the womb,

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Speaker 3: Getting to right now. Because of the back and forth

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Speaker 3: is business. These things have happened, they will continue to happen,

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Speaker 2: Man? Your initial thoughts we got time to dig into.

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Speaker 2: I just want their initial thoughts.

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Speaker 1: So my initial thoughts were, I really wanted to see

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Speaker 2: He went to Zandersaias for Zenda.

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Speaker 1: Zayas is a very good fighter, a complete fighter, a

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Speaker 1: Nixt He probably the second most difficult guy to fight

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Speaker 1: And I liked it about Boots because Boots saying, I

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Speaker 1: This is what you want to see. This is a

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Speaker 3: I love the match up just you know, there's still

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Speaker 2: twenty three.

437
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 3: And when I look at this match up, initially, the

438
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 3: first thing I think about, is it too soon for Xandersias?

439
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 3: Is it is it a year too soon? Is it

440
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: a year and a half too soon? Something somemer say.

441
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 3: But he's still you know, you're two time world champion.

442
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 3: That that doesn't mean that he's ready for this. I

443
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 3: think he you know, Xander, and I like Xander a lot.

444
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,959
Speaker 3: I like him a lot personally. I like his movement.

445
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 3: I like how he's carried himself, and I like him.

446
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 3: I've seen his growth, you know, calling his fights on ESPN.

447
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 3: He's got a lot to like. He's got the range,

448
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 3: he's got the height, he's tough. You know, he got

449
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 3: a whole country behind him, and he fully embraces trying

450
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: to be the next great Puerto Rican champion. And he's

451
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 3: gonna call some problems for Boots in this throughout this fight.

452
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: But the question, my initial question is this too soon

453
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: or is it the right time?

454
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: Is it Ripe in the right time for Xanda's ires

455
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 3: and for jerm Boots in this he needed this name,

456
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 3: he needed this kind of matchup because that's been the

457
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 3: biggest knock on him. It's like, yeah, you pass the

458
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 3: eye test, we see you have skills, We respect your

459
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: movement with your father and coming from Philly and everything

460
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 3: that you guys do.

461
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: We know you know.

462
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 3: It's it's widespread rumors and not just rumors. But the

463
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: truth is Boots of the you know, he's a gym

464
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: rat and he lives boxing. He really loves the sport

465
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: and you see that when he fights. But the question

466
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: of concern that I have for Boots is is Boots

467
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,479
Speaker 3: has had his way so much that I don't always

468
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: see Boots. Even though he does have skilled defensively, he

469
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: doesn't always use it. I see Boots sometimes get hit

470
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: with clean, flush shots, and I'll see him get hit

471
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: in a fight with a repeated shot, and my boxing

472
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 3: brain says, you took that shot against this guy, What

473
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: if you get hit with that same shot against that guy.

474
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: So those are my initial concerns about the fight for

475
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 3: both guys.

476
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: But if it is the right time for Xander and

477
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: he's able to pull this off and.

478
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 3: Beat Boots on points or somehow hurt Boots and stop

479
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 3: Boots and put on a great performance, Puerto Rico has

480
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,719
Speaker 3: their next great star. And if Jerom Boots in Us

481
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: is able to deal with Xander's ayas and stop him

482
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 3: and dominate him, it's gonna prove a lot of what

483
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 3: we've already seen and know about Boots is that he

484
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: has it and.

485
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: He just needed the opportunity to prove it.

486
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: So we're gonna get into this fight a lot more

487
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 3: as it gets closer. Exciting fight for boxing is you know,

488
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: when these types of matchups get made, man, you first

489
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: hip you have and salute them because it's a lot

490
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: of cats.

491
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: Duck and smoked these days.

492
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 3: And the reason why some of these fights are being

493
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: made it because you have the influx of the Saudi

494
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: money and the number is so big it's hard to

495
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: say no. But these guys, I'm sure are getting compensated,

496
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: but they want the glory, they want the legacy, and

497
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: they want to prove something and I respect that from.

498
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: Both guys me too.

499
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: Let me say this to you real quick, Drake, see

500
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: this way, we gotta gotta learn that.

501
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: You know.

502
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: It's like we can think it's too early, but we

503
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: can't say it's too early when he's already a two

504
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: time world champion.

505
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: Is not too early. It's not too early because.

506
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: The question no, no, let me finish, let me finish,

507
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: but let me finish, let me finish, let me finish.

508
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: If you fighting for two times world champion already, if

509
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: you go for the third one and he gets beat,

510
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: then he misses a big money fight with Boots instead

511
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: of going on to taking this fight.

512
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

513
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: It's like, so with the time, we get a cheat

514
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: out of fights because guys try to wait to the

515
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: fight simmers against to where it needs to be. Then

516
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: they wait till they think one guy's read. No, if

517
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: you're a two time world champion across the board already,

518
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: you're ready. If you're not ready, you shouldn't have got

519
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: to be ready. You shouldn't have got them two tightest

520
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: if you weren't ready. So if you got two titles,

521
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: I want to hear that you're not ready. You better

522
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: be ready because you're two time world champions. You got

523
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: two of the best in the way class. Everybody in

524
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: the weight class won'te that, so you but you're behind,

525
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: better be ready your He won't come from now with

526
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: Boots in his Boots is looking for the opportunity to

527
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: the shine his light. And Xander is a guy like

528
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: you say that you can't that hits you repeatedly with

529
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: the same shot, or you won't be around on So

530
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: Boots gonna get on this game. I'm sure he gonna

531
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: tighten up and get on his A game because you

532
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: know he has an a opponent.

533
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 2: So I think the fight is perfect.

534
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: I think it's the perfect time for the fight because

535
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: the win of this fight is gonna be something special

536
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: a because if Xander wins it, we get another Puerto

537
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: Rico versus Mexico. And he don't live in Mexico, but

538
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: fun Duras Mexican, I believe. So if he wins, that's

539
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: ad Puerto Rico versus Mexico. Class again. If Boots wins,

540
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: everybody gonna one say you solve that puzzle?

541
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: Well, how you gonna solve this fun door puzzle? You understand?

542
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Who come from Sogan fin so much.

543
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: To build off of this fight about how it ends

544
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: that this is the time this fight has to happen.

545
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

546
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: See, when you start talking like that, that's when you

547
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: start getting them videos online.

548
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen that, dude, that they

549
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: imitate you on line. I seen it. I seen it.

550
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: I've seen it with flip flops. But it's only the

551
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: word rud Jones.

552
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: He can't get it. He tripping on me. He did

553
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: my little part. I'm like, brother, you ain't close to me.

554
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: You might have some of the royal mannerisms, but non

555
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: but you gotta you gotta do it.

556
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Read you on me, man, I'm excited about the fight.

557
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: We just got it.

558
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: We just gotta get it on man. That's that's what

559
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 3: time it is. I like what you said. Two time

560
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: world champion is now now never you you in, you in,

561
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: you in.

562
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: The high seat.

563
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: So whether it is or not, you hear now, Yeah,

564
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: it's it's it's he twenty eight, he got thirty something fights.

565
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: Brother, it's been time for something like that.

566
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: Remember, I want to pivot to a viral moment that

567
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: you were at the center of.

568
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: You know, your fighter Kevin Newman, Man who's a vetting

569
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: the game.

570
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: Man got some of the fastest hands in the game,

571
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: very skillful, a brother of mine in the game. He

572
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 3: fought on the undercart of Sebastian frondor Keith Thurman at

573
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: the MGM Grant Arena March twenty eighth against hot prospect

574
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: Elijah Garcia. It was a big moment for keV. You know,

575
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: it's one of them sinker swing moments. You know, we

576
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: all have them where depending on where we are in

577
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: our career. Sometimes you get offered a fight and you're

578
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: not supposed to win that fight. And I think that

579
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: was a fight for Kevin Newman. If you know keV,

580
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 3: you know he can win the fight. But for the

581
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: promoters and those that offered it, they feel like this

582
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: will be a stepping stone fight for Elijah Garcia, and

583
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: you guys had other plans. So let's just start with

584
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 3: the actual fight. And what did you think about the

585
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: fight when the fight was made? keV and Roy you

586
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: can jump into and just how preparation went going into

587
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: this fight.

588
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 4: I thought it was you know, I thought it was

589
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: a great fight, a great opportunity.

590
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: You know.

591
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: As soon as I you know, like I told you, man,

592
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: I was, I was out on a jog and my

593
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: brother just passed, and I was asking God for an opportunity.

594
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just talking to God out loud, just like,

595
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: you know, God, please give me opportunity. You know, I'm ready,

596
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: you know, you know, so just just talking to God

597
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: out loud. And then I get that call two days later,

598
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: and there was a situation where it was like, this

599
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: is what you know, this is what I literally just

600
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: asked God for. So it was really you know, I

601
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 4: discussed it with Roy and other members of my team

602
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: and obviously yourself, but it was really a no brainer, man,

603
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: because it was like when you ask God for something

604
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 4: and he delivers, that.

605
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: Means it's your time, you know.

606
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: So I felt like it was my time, and you know,

607
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 4: it was a big moment for me, especially where I'm

608
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: at in my career and in my life right now.

609
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to make sure I went out

610
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 4: there and capitalize on that.

611
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: ROK. What was your mindset?

612
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: You know, how do you prepare a fighter like Kevin

613
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: where he is in his career for a moment like

614
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: that where you know, like you got to have this, Yeah,

615
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: you gotta.

616
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: Train different for that moment, and you got to keep

617
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: putting it in your mind in his mind that your

618
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: mindset has to be different. You're fighting a young guy

619
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: who they're high on. You're not the guy that supposed

620
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: to win, so you got to go in there and

621
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: dominate this guy or you're probably not gonna win. So

622
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: that's what was on my mind. That's why I kept

623
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: trying to instill in Newman's mind.

624
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: I fell asleep right like I knew keV was gonna

625
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: be fighting at a certain time. You know, I'm getting

626
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm forty two years old, man, stuff be happening.

627
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: So I nodded off. I fell asleep.

628
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 3: I wake up, and I wake up to the moment

629
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: in the corner that went viral.

630
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: That's what I walk up to. So I get on

631
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: my phone.

632
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: I log I'm like man Care fighting, and if I'm

633
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: not mistaken, this was in between round seven and round eight.

634
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Correctly, I think around four and five, early between four

635
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: and five.

636
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: Yees that moment? Really, yes, I'm between four and five?

637
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, So before I get to the moment, Roy,

638
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: what were you seeing that you did not like from Care?

639
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: What was he not doing? What was he doing? What

640
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: was the problem?

641
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Well, we are both understood that you know, women into

642
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: quicker than men, right, right, So a twenty two year

643
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: old man does not have the same mental capacity as

644
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old woman. A twenty two year

645
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: old man is in a cross roads of being still

646
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: a boy but coming to be a man. And we

647
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: understood that. So that being said Kevin thirty four, you

648
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get me any more shots. You're finding a

649
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: twenty two year old guy that you have to put

650
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: in the mindset that he's dealing with up.

651
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: He's not.

652
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I hear deal with another kid his age. He did

653
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: it with a bully him. You understand, mean, that's what

654
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: it was. You understandn't come up, And that's what my

655
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: mindset was. So what happened was first two rounds he

656
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: did he treated him like nephew. Third round, started letting

657
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: nephew get a little bit more confidence and nephew acting

658
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: like nephew and start acting like cousin. Fourth round, cousins

659
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: start acting like maybe I'm finna be all. So I lost.

660
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I lost. That's not what we trained to do.

661
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: And my mind I just I, like you said, I

662
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: gssed out. I didn't know what happened, just that nothing

663
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: to let him come because You're not gonna.

664
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: Let this little dude come here and run your wroth.

665
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: All the stuff we done did we didn't did everything

666
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: necessarily got all these days of training. I ain't been

667
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: able to gonna hang out with my dogs, my chickens

668
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: because I'm training you trying to get rid of I

669
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: didn't get this moment that you asked for, And now

670
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna let him come ahead and treat you.

671
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Like he's up.

672
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: No, that's not gonna happen to that nore Up to

673
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: that point, did you feel like the fight.

674
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 2: Was going away? Roy?

675
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you know when I'm in the fight, obviously,

676
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: you know when you in there, you in there, you

677
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But like I knew I was

678
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: winning like the first the first three, but I felt

679
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: like he started to like he kind of he kind

680
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: of tried to come on a little stronger at the

681
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: end of round three. But I knew I had won

682
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: the first three rounds. The fourth round and that's when

683
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: he kind of started having some moments and then that's

684
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: when when Roy lost it after that, and and you

685
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I understood it was one of

686
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: them situations where you know, like sometimes fighters need to

687
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: hear certain things, and you know, like I'm pretty sure

688
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: each like that would have would have would have done

689
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of fighters some good in

690
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: their in their career because a lot of sometimes fighters

691
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: get complacent and and things like that and they don't

692
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: get the real from their coach. And you know, so

693
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: I mean obviously, you know, you know Roy went off.

694
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: You know, I really didn't. I didn't have nothing to

695
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: say back to him. I think I came to the

696
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: corner and said, I'm fighting because I was. I was fighting,

697
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: and I wasn't. I wasn't dominating like he wanted. I

698
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: was actually fighting. And he said, no, you're not. You

699
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: know you're not. You're not fighting. And fighting to Roy

700
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: means as soon as they punch you, punching off, they

701
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: punch you, wrecking them off, they punches, you know, you dominating,

702
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: that's fighting to him. So you know, I'm like, I'm fighting. No,

703
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: you're not, You're not fighting. You know you you you

704
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: you did you that. You know you're letting them, let

705
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: them go, you this and that, And I'm just like

706
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: in my mind, I'm like, you know what, I have

707
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: an immense respect for Roy.

708
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: I look at Roy like a pop. You know what

709
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

710
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know what I mean, these last

711
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: few years of my life, he's been there for me

712
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: through boxing and through real life and you know, and

713
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: and the last thing my father told me, he said,

714
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: you know, listen to Roy. That was the last text message,

715
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: and we said, listen to Roy. He said he's a legend.

716
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: And he said you could be a legend too, baby,

717
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: And you know, so with him being said, I just

718
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: I literally was just like this tunnel vision. And of

719
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: course you may not those certain words come out. You

720
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: may not want to hear them words because you're not

721
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: dealing with it from anybody else, you know what I'm saying,

722
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: Like you know, I don't.

723
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

724
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: You know, of course you don't take certain words lightly.

725
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: But I knew where it was coming from. And I

726
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: knew how bad wanted me to win that fight. And

727
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: I knew how bad I wanted to win that fight.

728
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: So it wasn't really it wasn't too much to talk about.

729
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: It was just go out there and just go get

730
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: the work.

731
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: My dad used to coach like that early on before

732
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: he passed me off to verge Right.

733
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: My dad was a great man.

734
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: But them pressure moments here when you ain't using your jab.

735
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: I told you to use your jab. And for me,

736
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: as a kid, that kind of stuff would make me angry,

737
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: and then I would shut down, right and now I

738
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: got an issue with you, and I'm trying.

739
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: To prove you wrong. But me and you ain't good

740
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: right now. That's how I did it.

741
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: So he passed me off the verge who was more

742
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: or cerebral and would be more hey, baby, you gotta

743
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: do it like this, Hey, don't let him do this.

744
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: That worked for me because I was already a competitive kid.

745
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: I'm already driven, and I already I don't need to

746
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: be turned on, right, even though sometimes you need to

747
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: be turned on, It was more me need to be

748
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: pulled back at times. So for me, I was talking

749
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: to keV about this last night. I don't know how

750
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: I would have received that information in that moment. I

751
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: think for me, I probably would have been looking at

752
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: ry like come on, bro, like come on, bro, you

753
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna do me like that right now? Even

754
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: if I needed to hear it, and I probably would

755
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: have got up and either had something to say in

756
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: that moment or maybe just tuned it out and been

757
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: like you want to knock out, I'm finish show you,

758
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: I'm finnah.

759
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Show you think this what he's doing to me. I'm

760
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: finna show you. That's how my brain is wired.

761
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: Matt, what did you take from that moment and throughout

762
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: your career? How did you need to be coached in

763
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: order to be at your best? I did get a

764
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: chance to actually see the moment. I caught up on

765
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: it this morning when BD had hit me.

766
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 5: But it's interesting because people receive information and coaching different ways.

767
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 5: And I'm a coach now and I'm forty six years old,

768
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: so I think I'm right behind Roy as far as

769
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: being the oldest in here. And we came from a

770
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: generation where we got custas screened that some people put

771
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: hands on.

772
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: Yes, it was whatever way.

773
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: The Bobby Knight method if you want to refer to

774
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: basketball coach the Bobby Knight method to how you receive

775
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: information and it's really on you. Can you take that

776
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 5: in and understand that it's coming from a place of

777
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: motivation and love, because I feel like a coach doesn't

778
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 5: get on someone in that way or those words unless

779
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 5: they see something, and obviously Roy sees something in Kevin.

780
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: That's why he's coaching himself. It's just an interesting.

781
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: Time because again I coached my seventeen year old kids,

782
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 5: and similar to what you just said, Drake, cussing at

783
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 5: them and screaming at them, I have to do it

784
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 5: every once in a while, but they don't receive it.

785
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: The team doesn't receive it, like this generation does not

786
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 5: receive that type of I don't want to call it discipline,

787
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 5: but just that style of coaching. So to me, you know,

788
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 5: my whole method that has been because I've been coaching

789
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 5: them since they were eight and they're seventeen now, is

790
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: going down to their level, getting them to believe and

791
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: trusting me, and then bringing him up to where I

792
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: want them to go. And then that way my words

793
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 5: kind of really you know that they really register if

794
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: I have to cuss at you.

795
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: But most time I'm going to explain it to you.

796
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be cerebul and put you in situations to

797
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 5: make you understand it.

798
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: So I think in the moment where Roy was.

799
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 5: That was he saw the clock ticking and like you said,

800
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 5: he felt it was leading up to a certain situation

801
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 5: and he had no other way within that sixty seconds

802
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 5: to put their.

803
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: Words on you.

804
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: And credit to you you took it the right way

805
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 5: and change the whole outcome. But to what you said, Drake,

806
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 5: some people may not be able to handle it, and

807
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 5: you got think in that moment too, like sometimes it

808
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: may take you a second process, but in boxing you're

809
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: right back out there trying to kill each other, you know, respectfully.

810
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 5: So it was very interesting to the way you were

811
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 5: able to digest what he was saying, understand what he said.

812
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 5: And I think given to your point Kevy said, would

813
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 5: only take it from Roy like no one else could

814
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: say say.

815
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: That kind of to you and get away over the show. Good.

816
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: Just understand where it's coming from, why it's coming and

817
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: can you digest and disseminate what he wants you to

818
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 5: do and go out there and apply it.

819
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: And obviously you were able to do that. So hass

820
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: off to both you guys for that. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

821
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I respect Kiv for how for how you how

822
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: you received that.

823
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: And the truth of the.

824
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: Matter is this, keV, I'm not sure if Roy don't

825
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: have that moment that you go out there and close

826
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: that fight the way that you did, because no matter

827
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: how Roy disseminates that information. And it's not a right

828
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: or wrong situation because every fighter, every athlete is different.

829
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: Like Matt just said, like some guys, you can't give

830
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: them a subtle approach, they won't catch they won't catch it.

831
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: Bro we running out of time, and Roy is aware

832
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: of how this game is run. They're not gonna give

833
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: a Kevin Newman at this stage in his career nothing.

834
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Because even going into the last round, for me, that

835
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: moment at that time wasn't even the biggest thing. The

836
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: comment that I leaned in on the most was when

837
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: Roy said, I think it's between the ninth and the

838
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: tenth rounds.

839
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: It was it was the last round.

840
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: It was he said, go out there and knock him out,

841
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: or this is our last fight together.

842
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, it.

843
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: Don't get no realer or no roar than nothing. And

844
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: you went out there and you closed the shop.

845
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: And if you don't go to.

846
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, bella thank you, but if you don't got

847
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: to show right, then we lose the fight. And I

848
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: don't want to say that I didn't do enough or

849
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I didn't give him enough to go out there and

850
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: really complete. We got the obligation that he had a hand.

851
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: So for me, it was like I had tried to

852
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: cerebral approach round one, round two, round three, understand, don't

853
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: come from it wasn't working, but I wouldn't get what

854
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: I wanted. Round four, I didn't get what I wanted.

855
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: So it's like, Kevin, this is not what we're here for. Brother,

856
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: were here either fight. Oh let's go all righty the

857
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: believe because if you're not gonna fight, they're not gonna

858
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: give you nothing. If you don't go ahead to dominate

859
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: this dude, they're not give you the fight. Having the

860
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: last time you fault. Last time before, I thought you

861
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: lost that fight, but they didn't give it to it.

862
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: They they didn't take it from him.

863
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: They gave it to him. So everything I'm looking.

864
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: At is, remember what happened the last time I saw

865
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: this kid out out there boxing. He thought the guy

866
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: that dropped him in the first round, and I thought

867
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: the guy pretty much won most of the rounds after that,

868
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: and they still gave it to him. So Keatvin, if

869
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: you go out there and do this what you're doing now,

870
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna give it to him. I'm in a position

871
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: where I'm left with nothing else to do but try

872
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: all will come. Actually, I don't think it was even me.

873
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: I think God overwhelmed me and made me say what

874
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: I had to say because my mind I didn't go

875
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: in there with none of that in my mind to say.

876
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: I just when I got in there, just hey, if

877
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do this right now, we're done, bro,

878
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: because this is your last shot. You thirty four years old.

879
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: If you don't do this right now, this a rep.

880
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: And that's how I had to look at you understand me.

881
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: And what he was doing was probably enough for most people,

882
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't for me because I know what he

883
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: can do. I know what he's capable of. I know

884
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: what I saw him training, I know what I've seen

885
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: from him since I had him. I know why he

886
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: died here with me. You understand me. So I know

887
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: what he's capable of. That what he was doing, that's

888
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: not what he's capable of. He's capable of much more

889
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: than that. So if you don't give me some of that,

890
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna keep wasting my time. I can't do

891
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: it through you. I gotta get you, gotta do it.

892
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I can give you an instruction book. I can hlp

893
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: you with the guidlas, but you got to go through it.

894
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: If you don't care, no more of that than to

895
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: do it. I got to show you how much I care.

896
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: I care about my time. So if I'm gonna show

897
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: how much I care about it, and if you don't

898
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: take those instructions and do it, well.

899
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: I can't do that for you no more. That's all

900
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: I was saying. And care if you went out there

901
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: and did it.

902
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: Man, what's going on in your mind from a fighter standpoint,

903
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: because I don't know if you've ever been in a

904
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: situation like that where you had to get it out

905
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: the mud like that, where you had a few rounds

906
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: to get it done. What's going through your mind? And

907
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 3: how did you ultimately pull it off?

908
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you know it was obviously you know, you

909
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: know Roy, you know Coach Cratley in a crunch moment.

910
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

911
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: And it wasn't necessarily about the instructions. It was like

912
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: what he said, like, hey, bro, this and that woke

913
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 4: me up. You know what I'm saying. But you know,

914
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: I take it back to the conversation that me and

915
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: you happy for the fight, you call me fight day

916
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: and you know, to make a long story short, you

917
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: just said.

918
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: You said be great, bro, you said it's your time.

919
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: Be great.

920
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: And I understand what you meant In that moment. I

921
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: thought when you said be great, I thought you meant

922
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: to go out there and and and you know, be

923
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: this this this mythical looking fighter where it's just like

924
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 4: it's just everything just you know, you look, you look

925
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: different and and and of course that's what we all

926
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: want that as fighters. You know what I'm saying. We

927
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 4: all want to look like r J and his prime.

928
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 4: We all want you, I mean, come on now, you know,

929
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: like the Ray Leonards in their prime. But when you

930
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: said that to me, it was more so like I

931
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 4: didn't understand until I had to, Like you said, you know,

932
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 4: really like bite down and go out there and fight

933
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: and start pulling myself out of a hole that I

934
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have been in in the first place, you know,

935
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: down a couple of rounds. I shouldn't have lost no

936
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: rounds to that kid. And you know so, But when

937
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: afterwards I understood what you what you meant by that,

938
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: go be great, meaning go out there and you know

939
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: and that crunch woman, go out there and close the show,

940
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: bite down and go out there and do what you

941
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: gotta do and pull yourself out of that.

942
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: And I mean, that's what I took from that, man.

943
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: But in the fight, I'm like, I here Roy, like

944
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 4: I'm listening to him, and he's you gotta knock him out.

945
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: You gotta do this, you gotta do that, and and

946
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: and he's, hey, you got what can you do? Can

947
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: you do it? With what's what's going on in my mind?

948
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know I'm winning, but I know Roy

949
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 4: is keeping me reaching And like he said, they're not

950
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: going to give me anything. Whether I feel like I'm

951
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 4: winning or not, They're not going to give me anything.

952
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: That's their fighter, you know, that's their young guy. And

953
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: and I understood that. And I mean and for me,

954
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: like I said, I have a crazy amount of respect

955
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: for Roy, And you know, he's my idol in this

956
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: in this boxing game. If you know me, you know that.

957
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: And so I just went out there and just and

958
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: just and just put it all on the line, man,

959
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: and and I got the result that that we were

960
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: looking for. So I mean, you know, now now it's

961
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: like you know, we've been there, we've done that, but

962
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: now we gotta we got to get right back in

963
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: the lab and you know, we got to get back

964
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: to to really you know, turning up, because it only

965
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: gets it only gets tougher from here. The fights only

966
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: get bigger. You know, there's no backwards. It is big,

967
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: big now, you know what I'm saying. So you know, when.

968
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: You when you when.

969
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: You want to get in there with the the Charlos

970
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: and the plants and the Resindas is obviously you know

971
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 4: he's a w B, a shuperman and WIGHT world champion.

972
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: Obviously Conelo was there, and then you got you know,

973
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: the Pacheco's and Sharazas. You got to go out there

974
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: and beat these guys, you know. So you know, and

975
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: that's and that's that's kind of where I'm at with it.

976
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: Man. So I'm ready. I'm ready for whatever I.

977
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: Told you last night. Man, I said, man, you how

978
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: are you? Thirty thirty four? You will preserved thirty four.

979
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: You know you don't smoke, you don't drink. You know,

980
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: you're a family man, and you always in the gym.

981
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: I said, bro, you can go on a cold two

982
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: to three year run, man, and change your financial situation

983
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: and start playing with the ms BRO like if you

984
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: if you really lock in, you know what I'm saying,

985
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: Like not to say you not locked in, but it's

986
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: levels to the lock in, you know what I'm saying, Like,

987
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: sometimes you get a tunnel vision with don't nothing else matter,

988
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: and this is what's about to happen and the type

989
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: of money that's gonna start throwing your way. All you

990
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: gotta do is beat another name that they don't think

991
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: you're gonna beat.

992
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: And now, hey, man, we'll give you.

993
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: You know one five will give you the numbers gonna

994
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: change drastically, and I want.

995
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: That for you. Bro. You've been in the game a

996
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: long time and you also a guy who.

997
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: Supports a lot of a lot of fighters. Man, you

998
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: you rock with a lot of fighters. You ain't got

999
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: no ego. You don't mind standing next to somebody and

1000
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: letting them have their moment while in the background you

1001
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: encouraging them and tell you, brother, you could do this.

1002
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be with you. I'm rocking with you, and

1003
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: you have a great box in mind. Bro. So so

1004
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: lock in, bro, like we.

1005
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: Talked about, because it's a lot of money on the

1006
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: table and you don't want to leave none of it.

1007
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: On the table, if you saw anything that happened that

1008
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: he was doing, especially like the first round, the first

1009
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: two rounds and that last round. Particularly you start a

1010
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: man throwing hands like, ain't nobody throwing hands in.

1011
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: The game right now, you feel me?

1012
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: And when you could do something different than people are doing,

1013
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: then people are gonna pay to see that because they

1014
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: don't get it no where els And that's all I've

1015
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: been trying to hit them. When you let your hands

1016
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: go and be you, it's something different to see if

1017
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: some people want to see.

1018
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: But you got to give it to.

1019
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: Him, Yeah, I told keV. I told keV. I said,

1020
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: he could have stopped gud like even though he stepped

1021
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: it up. You know, there was times that he was

1022
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: catching guard sea at the end of his punches, so

1023
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: he's piling up points.

1024
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: I said, if you.

1025
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: Really stepped in, like, if you really stepped in, you

1026
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: could have stopped it.

1027
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: Because it was times where he keV was hurting him

1028
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: just with what he was doing.

1029
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: Of course, of course call you and a snap on

1030
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: the shot, But if you stepped in and hit him

1031
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: mid range with that stuff, the fight was gonna be over.

1032
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: You was gonna hurt him and be able to finish

1033
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: him off. So what Roy is saying is it's like

1034
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: it's it's even another level. And I told you this

1035
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: last night here, it's even another level you can go

1036
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: to right where you not accepting certain things. I'm not

1037
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: just I'm not gonna accept a close fight with you.

1038
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: You don't need it. This this fight ain't supposed to

1039
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: be cleared.

1040
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: And when you start having that type of mindset, right

1041
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: when you start locking in like that, were like, you're

1042
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: gonna have to show me, you gonna you You're gonna

1043
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: have to knock me out because I'm finna be in

1044
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: your wheelhouse.

1045
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 2: That's a different type of mentality, Broun.

1046
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: And I think where you are in your career and

1047
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: your age, that's what time is.

1048
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: That's what time. And like he said, the.

1049
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Skill set, the hand speed, brother, it's some folks that

1050
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: paid for that.

1051
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: My boy, you're there in that and and and you

1052
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: know the like you know the touch you know obviously

1053
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: said it's it's it's a lot of money to be made.

1054
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: But you know for me, Dre, like I came in

1055
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: this game, man, you know, I want to be the

1056
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: best and I want them belts bro, Like you know

1057
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: when I look at the r js and and yourself, man,

1058
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: and seeing y'all have all them belts, bro like that,

1059
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: that to me is is what gets me, you know,

1060
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: Like I want I want some of that that action.

1061
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: I want some of that, you know. And I know

1062
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: I know God gave me enough to go get that

1063
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: and then some you know.

1064
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: So with that being said, man, it's the money.

1065
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 4: The money is great because of course I got to

1066
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: take care of these kids, my lady and and and

1067
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: my family and everything. But at the end of the day,

1068
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: but I know what I want from this game and

1069
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 4: and and you know, just to flip the script real quick, man,

1070
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: It's like Roy said something to me a long time ago.

1071
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: He said, Man, he said, I went out there and

1072
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: did it for all the people that couldn't do it,

1073
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: that were in the hospitals and.

1074
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: Sick and things like that.

1075
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 4: Like I listen to everything he says, and I hold

1076
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: on too, and I remember except for the people that

1077
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. And it's like for me, like I'm

1078
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: dedicating the rest of my career to my brother, because

1079
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: my brother's life was cut short, man, and right when

1080
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: he was about to take off, and what he was

1081
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: doing in his music and his uh you know, he

1082
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: was about to start in a movie and all kinds

1083
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 4: of things.

1084
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1085
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: So it's like certain things that make you tick and

1086
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: get you going, and it's like that's one of them things.

1087
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Man.

1088
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: It's like he was right about to do his things.

1089
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 4: So it's like for me, I'm here, I'm at the door. Now,

1090
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 4: I got to kick the door in and go really

1091
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: get to it, you know what I'm saying. So you

1092
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: know I got the man with the plan behind me.

1093
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 4: You know, I got RG I got a great team, man.

1094
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I appreciate you, you know, for being just

1095
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 4: a you know, I don't use this word a lot,

1096
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 4: but being a big brother.

1097
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: In the game of boxing to me. You know what

1098
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1099
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: And you know, of course you know Devin, you know

1100
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 4: I mean that I can't say enough about him, bro,

1101
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like like, dude's really

1102
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: really really helped me.

1103
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: Big time, you know what I'm saying.

1104
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: And you know my team, you know rj Sid my

1105
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: brother said. You know, he's came in help me a lot,

1106
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: Miss Jones, Andrew Murphy, my cousin, a whole bunch of

1107
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: people I could name a whole bunch of people that

1108
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: really helped me, you know what I'm saying. But but Roy, Man,

1109
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: I mean, this dude has has really helped me, man

1110
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: like rebuild me and and and and pulled me out

1111
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 4: of a place where my career was essentially probably over with,

1112
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so I mean, we

1113
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: were just gonna take this thing all the way to

1114
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: the top, bro. That's that's that's why I'm at with it.

1115
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: You know, whatever we got to do to get there,

1116
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: that's what we got to do. I hope it ain't

1117
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: no more hollering involved, because I don't do that. I

1118
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: don't do too good with the hollering. But you know,

1119
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, people got

1120
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: to see something, you know, see something special, man. I mean,

1121
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: whether whether you think it's funny, whether you think it

1122
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: is you got to see a fighter who respects their

1123
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: coach and you know, who's willing to go out there

1124
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: and and and and do what the coach.

1125
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: Was asking, you know what I'm saying.

1126
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: And a lot of fighters could benefit from from that,

1127
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: because I see a lot of these guys, man, they

1128
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: just give these fights away, you know. And so you know, hopefully,

1129
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: hopefully Roy might have started something. Man, you might see

1130
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: you might you might see a lot more of that.

1131
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 4: We might not be the only ones he might have started.

1132
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: So you know, this guy been trends sending forever in

1133
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: his boxing game, you know.

1134
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: So you know it's crazy, It's crazy.

1135
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: I got so many calls people, Hey, can you work

1136
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: my corner?

1137
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: No? I can't work your corner. I'm sorry, No, I cannot.

1138
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I know that exactly. I

1139
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: know that exactly, exactly. Real quick, real quick.

1140
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this though, though you did,

1141
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: you did apologize. I didn't see the apology video. Why

1142
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: did you apologize about that moment in the corner?

1143
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: Because it's like I have an alter ego called RJ,

1144
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: and RJ comes around rjie just lose it. He don't

1145
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: give a care about nothing, nobody. He just lose it,

1146
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: you understand me. And I don't like to have that

1147
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: person come around you under saying I gotta love you

1148
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: a lot, or I got to be ready into something

1149
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: for that person to show up. So I apologize because

1150
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: I can keep the breaks on him and keep his

1151
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: content down. I don't like to be explicit in public.

1152
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: You understanding, that's not what I teach, That's not what

1153
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I stand for, That's not what I I want people doing.

1154
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: You understand me. But in that moment, I love boxing

1155
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: so much. That's just And I know I know Kevin's potential.

1156
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: You understand him come from It wasn't I wasn't getting

1157
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: it out of him the way I was trying to

1158
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: get it. So it just sums overwhelmed me and say,

1159
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: this is your last try because listen, listen, Dre.

1160
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: If he lose that fight, his career is over. If

1161
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: he lose that fight, his career is over.

1162
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: And if I don't go and go out on the

1163
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: line to try to help him save itself from himself,

1164
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: then he gonna I mean I could sit back and say, well, Roy.

1165
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: You should have told him. You understand.

1166
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: You didn't tell him right, But I did tell him

1167
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: right now. I gave him opportunity to go out and

1168
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: save itself. And guess what Kevin did. He stood up,

1169
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: went out and saved itself. You understand. So with that

1170
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: being said, man over like over.

1171
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: Over, yeah, over over.

1172
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: When you when you get thirty four, you think they

1173
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna give you any more chances?

1174
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.

1175
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Boo Boo Boo Boo lost to lost to day benef

1176
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: it is, have you seen Booboo anymore? Boo Boo was

1177
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: thirty four years old? Have you seen couple? But have

1178
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: you seen Booe anymore? That's thirty four?

1179
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: You see him no more? So if a guy lose

1180
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: at thirty four to a guy that.

1181
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: Twenty two, who want to see him fight nobody else

1182
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: who believes he gonna make it no more?

1183
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: They won't. They won't believe it.

1184
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying that this fight, it's a

1185
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: cross roads fight for Newman. Nowman, you can't lose anymore

1186
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: because of your age. You gotta eat the pool. You're

1187
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna do it or are you gonna let it go?

1188
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: And that's just the facts. You understand me. So it's like,

1189
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to, I don't wanna. I wasn't doing

1190
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: none of that on purpose. I didn't mean it for

1191
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: that part of me to show up. That's why I

1192
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: apologized because that's not what I wanted to say. That's

1193
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: not how I want to have to talk to him,

1194
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: because I'm not that kind of person.

1195
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 2: I believe.

1196
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: I didn't like my dad to talk to me like that.

1197
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: That's how I understand what you say. I understand that.

1198
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I would shut down too because I ain't like it,

1199
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying me, But sometime you gotta

1200
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: at least that was the last thing I could have

1201
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: tried to get him to do it, and guess what,

1202
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: it got the job done. Not that I'm gonna go

1203
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: there all the time, and I'm mad at him for

1204
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: making me to go there, but he got the job

1205
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: and that's why I apologize. But I don't like that

1206
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: because they're like, what you make me do that you

1207
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: feel me? I don't want to do that. I don't

1208
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: want to have to do that. I want you to

1209
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: want that. I don't want it to want that like that.

1210
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: I want you to want that like that you feel me.

1211
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1212
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: So last one for me. Man. How Miss Jones feel

1213
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: about that? Man?

1214
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: She she she? She she she in the boxing game?

1215
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: You know how to sing?

1216
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: Well? How she feel about that? That? That person showing

1217
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: up like that?

1218
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: Miss Jones, Kevin's mama, and Givin's fiance all concurred and

1219
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: understood that that's what Kevin needed at the time.

1220
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Given wrong, given, am I wrong?

1221
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: Givin and and and and and and too and and

1222
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 4: and and and you know, you know, and den Man

1223
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 4: Dad was like, you know, he posted on Twitter he

1224
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: said that was a one coaching So that's exactly what

1225
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: he needed to hear. And you know, so, I mean,

1226
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 4: you got to respect the man because the outcome, you know,

1227
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: and the outcome was you've seen a fighter that truly

1228
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: respected what his coach was saying, didn't argue with him.

1229
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: You know, I'm looking at him like like, bro, you're

1230
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 4: not playing okay, like I feel you let's let's let's

1231
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: go ahead and let's go ahead and turn this thing

1232
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: back up.

1233
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: And you know, so that's what it was. What it was.

1234
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: The mass walk cours straight too. Let me just helping

1235
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: myself up better. Have you ever came to a corner

1236
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: tow a verge, I'm fighting verge? What does that sound like? Yeah,

1237
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: that's like you don't believe in yourself?

1238
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: No more? Right right.

1239
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what he meant by what it was

1240
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I said, I said, but fighting and what we came

1241
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: here to do. We came here to blow him out. Understanding,

1242
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: So when you come in, tell what we're fighting so

1243
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: you tell me you're gonna decrease the job now, so

1244
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna cut back and go half from the job now, No,

1245
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: we're not going half on the job.

1246
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: We didn't come here to fight. We came here to dominate.

1247
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: So you come tell me you can. I'm fighting that

1248
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: that that's probably what put that's what that's what you said.

1249
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: You said, you said you ain't you ain't you ain't fighting,

1250
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: and you of course use some other words, but you know,

1251
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: ye fighting, That's that's.

1252
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: Probably what puss my button because you conect tell you fighting.

1253
00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what.

1254
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, Roy came in come and then he

1255
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: said you gotta fight, man, and then you said, but

1256
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: you said I am fighting that bone when it went

1257
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 3: from there.

1258
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not That's not what I meant, because what

1259
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: you're doing you ain't fighting.

1260
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: Well, look man, it worked.

1261
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: You got it done, bro, And I told car said

1262
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: you you you're gonna be better because of that fighting,

1263
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 3: because of that moment.

1264
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: You got that under your belt. You know it just

1265
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: you know, to be able.

1266
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: To win like that, uh, in a moment like that

1267
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: and do something to you, man, it make you a

1268
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: lot better. And any questions. You had them questions was answered, Yeah, sure,

1269
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: So I appreciate you being on brother.

1270
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: Man.

1271
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: We excited to see what's next. Brother, hey man, don't

1272
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: leave nothing.

1273
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: On the table, man, go get it off, sure, because

1274
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: you got what it takes and labor not.

1275
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: At least I do want to say, ward, thank you

1276
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: for keeping it real with him, because anytime you talk

1277
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: to him, he come making tell me exactly what you

1278
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: be Donna said to him, and you always keep it

1279
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: real with him. If you don't keep it real with him,

1280
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: you're hurting him. So I appreciate you keeping it real

1281
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: with him. And I don't care you talk to him

1282
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: what you want. I'm not when those coaches who oh,

1283
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody talking about fighter. No no, no no no.

1284
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: You talk to them what you want to. If you

1285
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: want to go out there and train and work with

1286
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: you sometime, you take him because anything you teach him

1287
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be positive and only gonna add to what

1288
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get from him. So don't I ever

1289
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: feel like you can't be one hundred percent real with him,

1290
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you keeping it real.

1291
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: With him absolutely, man. That's the only way to do it. Man,

1292
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: I love for Brodi, thank you. Likewise likewise, Man.

1293
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: I appreciate both of y'all. Man, I don't know what

1294
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: happened to Matt. Matt dropped off, Man, but you know,

1295
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: great conversation about coaching.

1296
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep the conversation going. Man, that's another episode

1297
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: of the Hall of Game. It is.

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Speaker 3: You know, y'all, great coaches know what they need to

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00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 3: be in the moment. So like when keV mentioned how

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00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: I taught him to go be great, that don't mean

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00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: that it's gonna be an easy night. It just means

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00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: that you need to be whatever you need to be

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00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: in the moment to get the job done. And I

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: had a similar moment a little bit different than Roy's,

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00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: but very similar with Kovid Live, where I was performing

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00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: below the expectation.

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Speaker 2: I don't I shouldn't be on the canvas.

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Speaker 3: Even though I know that that can happen when I

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00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 3: fought Covilev the first time in twenty sixteen. I spent

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00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: my whole career staying off the canvas. I don't do

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00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: sit ups on the canvas, I don't roll on the canvas.

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: I don't play on the campus. My whole career is

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00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 3: predicated on staying off the camps. The only thing that's

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: supposed to be on the canvas is my feet. And

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00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: when my coach saw me in the biggest fight of

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: my life not performing well, he had ten rounds to

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00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: let me know what time it is, and he did

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Speaker 3: it his weight, but he looked me in my eyes said, look, man,

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00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: we need every single round. But he also had that

1320
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: inspiration in there too. Let me know that I leave

1321
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: been in this situation, sugar. Ray Leonard has been in

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00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: this situation. Many greats and all time greats have been

1323
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: in this situation and they got up. You got up

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00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: to go get it done. So I understand these moments.

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00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: And when you got the right horse, you got the

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00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: right charge, you got the right fighter. They can take

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00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: that information and they can go execute and it's just

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Speaker 3: what they need to hear when they need to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Man, So I get it and I respect it.

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Speaker 3: And to all the great coaches out there and just

1331
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Speaker 3: coaches in general, in order to be a great coach,

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Speaker 3: that's the best way to say. You got to know

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Speaker 3: when to shift and get your fighter or your athlete

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Speaker 3: what they need when they need it.

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Speaker 2: You're not trying to be that fighter's friend. You're not

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Speaker 2: trying to.

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Speaker 3: You can't be afraid to say the things you need

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00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: to say, because Verge just to always say this he said.

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Speaker 2: Look, man, I don't mind if you mad at me.

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Speaker 3: He said, I will risk you firing me in order

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Speaker 3: to tell you the truth. And sometimes you being told

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Speaker 3: the truth is the difference between a win and a

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Speaker 3: loss